Lamar Odom’s health has still not stabilized. He was transferred to Cedars-Sinai more than five days ago and while Lamar is doing better this week than he was last week, he still had to undergo two “emergency surgeries” yesterday. TMZ says “the procedures involved chest issues, but we do not know if it’s connected to his lungs or heart.” In addition to those emergency procedures, TMZ says Lamar is in a “fragile mental state,” and he’s very emotional and upset at all times.
As before, Khloe Kardashian has been by his side the whole time. She’s actually the only visitor being allowed in right now. As I said yesterday, I tend to believe that Khloe withdrew the divorce filing from the court mostly for these medical issues: she wanted to still be Lamar’s wife so she could make medical decisions for him and help him through this time. But TMZ also reports that Khloe withdrew the filing because Lamar promised her that he would never do drugs again:
Lamar Odom won Khloe Kardashian back by convincing her he would never do drugs again after hitting rock bottom. Our sources tell us, Lamar told Khloe over the weekend he knew he cheated death, promising, “I am done with drugs.” He also thanked her profusely for coming to Vegas and supporting him. He repeatedly told her that he loved her, and that was enough.
We’re told Khloe made the decision right then to drop the divorce and nurse Lamar back to health.
TMZ broke the story … Khloe’s lawyer, Laura Wasser, went to court Wednesday and got the judge to dismiss the divorce case. That all said, we’re told not everyone in the Kardashian family thinks Khloe’s decision is sound, because they’ve heard this from Lamar before.
Well… I don’t blame Khloe for wanting to believe Lamar. I don’t blame her for thinking the best of him and believing he could get better and get his life on track and that they could still make a go of their marriage. Optimism isn’t a curse, you know. Just because most of us are pessimists, cynics and jaded a—holes doesn’t mean everyone has to be that way. Of course the chances are pretty good that Lamar is not done with drugs and of course there’s a good chance Khloe will get her heart broken again. But… nothing ventured, nothing gained. It’s good to have hope. It’s good to have faith that people can change and get better.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I my little fairytale, Lamar walks out of Cedars Sinai clean and sober and Khloe is beside him, Pinnochio butt gone, hair back to dark, lips less plumped and extreme.
I co-sign your fairy tale
Me too! Don’t know what it is, but imho these two belong together, not that mho counts.
Me too!
khloe has naturally light hair and dyes it to fit in with her sisters.
Thank you. If we’re going to call out the K Klan for lying can we at least get our own facts straight? Khloe is a natural blonde-look up literally any one of her pictures as a kid.
She may be lighter than her sisters, but from googling childhood pics it doesn’t look like she was blonde as a child, and definitely not the blonde shade she’s been sporting lately.
More than these ppl’s different hair colors I find their everchanging faces disturbing. As in what do they feel when looking into the mirror knowing it’s all fake? I just don’t get it.
She was a light haired child, which is why she can pull off blonde. But her hair is dark now.
I was a very blonde child, and by the time I was a teen, my hair was almost black. But I can pull off blond hair and/or highlights because of my childhood natural hair color.
A triumph of hope over experience. Lamar must truly want to change his life for himself first, and others later.
Bingo.
Marriage saved by cocaine and prostitutes. Jesus Christ. Too ridiculous to be true.
Thank you! I knew I couldn’t be the only cynic here. Khloe may be loving and kind, but it gets to a point where it’s just STUPID. Scaring your wife silly by being found choking on your own vomit in a brothel isn’t ROMANTIC, guys. It’s not a sign from up above that this is true love. It’s a sign that Lamar probably won’t grow old, and that Khloe was right to leave him. Argh!
Who knows, maybe he finally got the scare of his life and it may be enough to steer him back to the straight path (crossing fingers, i would love for them to hold a genuine success story, love’s triumph over trials and a lesson well learned). Some of us need to hit our heads really hard against the wall of life before making drastic changes.
She has money so in the end, even if she wastes her youth on this guy she won’t be as regretful. If she wants babies though, she needs to get that priority straight. For us unknowns with less cash in the bank and the same amount of time to lose, hope is a really risky gamble – one that a lot of us romantics fall prey too and it’s sad.
But no, no I don’t actually think he’ll stay clean. I think he’ll chalk this up to a stupid mistake on his part and just be more discrete and think he can be more careful next time.
The other really awful possibility is that she ran back thinking he was on his death bed and might have even quietly hoped that to be the case so as to end the misery of waiting to see the news about it. And then of course, there’s widow money – she doesn’t need it but she is part of the Klan. I’m not saying she wanted him dead. But it might’ve been what she was expecting to happen.
All awful, yes. But reality is that the Klan is awful.
Another clusterf@ck waiting to happen
And babies, she always wanted babies!
Speaking of babies, why r they not allowedto vvisit?
Cosign, though I don’t care what she looks like.
And she will fire her mom and refuse to be on TV any more!
Me Too and i thing she will let go on training like crazy and come back on her chubby day !
I know everyone is going to say her mom has a hand in this, it’s all for ratings, it’s all for the show etc., but whoever actually watches KUWTK or those who have watched Khloe & Lamar, know that Khloe is head over heels for Lamar, and still loved him even when they were apart. She’s said it time and again it was only because of his addiction and so on. She canceled K&L when it was proving to be too much for him. So yes, while her family all ran to Lamar’s side (because God forbid shitty people actually end up being decent??), I think she’s truly in this for the long haul because she loves and cares for him, not for the show.
I believe that she really loved him while they were married, but she (and her family) really hung him out to dry after they broke up. They knew that he was vulnerable and yet still had no problem leaking everything to TMZ and setting him up for the KUWK cameras.
Agreed. They knew he was vulnerable and they repeatedly went after him anyways.
As for LO’s financial situation – it just shows that you can have all the money in the world and still be poor…nobody has a mean thing to say about this guy yet it still appears that he felt all alone in the world. Makes me sad.
They definitely went after him, but to be fair, if my sister had finally gotten out of a co-dependent relationship with a cheating drug addict, I’d be doing my best to keep them broken up.
But the creepy set ups for the cameras? That was definitely Khloe.
Yeah I think so too… and E! is all over the place assuring they are not filming any of this. I don’t doubt that it will be in the storyline at some point, it is, after all, a “reality” show and they talk about everything, but at least there won’t be any ridiculous footage. I’m ok with that.
I agree they genuinely love one another. The things that apparently aired on the show since they split have seemed to be unnecessary and pointedly cruel. I can also see Khloe feeling Lamar deserved the ridicule because of his drug use and infidelities because she is deeply hurt.
I think it was smart to call off the divorce for now not least because Lamar needs some stability to get through his medical issues. He may be a drugged out mess right now but he is quite wealthy and has people who handle that wealth. If the divorce went through might it place the responsibility for the decisions for his health being in some weird legal limbo? It doesn’t sound as if he has named anybody else.
As far as repairing their the marriage who knows? Once he is physically and mentally recovered from this ordeal they still must address what came between them in the first place. I am glad Lamar is doing so much better.
@Cran This is just food for thought because I’m not entirely sure what to think either. I agree with you and @Dani that I think these two truly love each other, but as far as Khloe agreeing to air out some of Lamar’s behavior and dirty laundry in dribs and drabs on the show–let’s not forget that Lamar dragged her through the mud as well. He’s the one who left her initially, and she spent quite some time chasing him around via phone calls. Khloe and Lamar’s relationship ended when he randomly fell off the wagon and literally disappeared. She couldn’t get in contact with him or find him anywhere. Sometimes the families of addicts do try to use shaming as a way to get the addict to see their behavior, acknowledge it and admit they need help. Sometimes people will film a person while they’re drunk or high on drugs. The hope is that they’ll see it and have an epiphany and want to change. Maybe that’s what Khloe was trying to do.
Does anyone remember the video of Lamar high off his ass with his now dead friend Jamie rapping about how Khloe doesn’t know what they do when she’s out of town, and basically admitting to cheating? That was ugly. Lamar forced her hand with that one and she filed for divorce not too long after.
Daria- I doubt that professional counsellors recommend shaming a drug addict in front of millions of people, on tape, forever in reruns. Or broadcasting an addict’s sober phone calls. Really, they were entirely out of line, Khloe included. Those kameras need to be shut down.
I hope Khloe comes to realize how poisonous those shows are for everyone involved, and simply walks away from them. She’s going to get a lot of pressure from Kim and Kris to keep exploiting him and his situation. I hope she’s saved her money.
Jwoolman: where did she say that’s what professional counselors recommended? She said that’s what some families do, and she’s right. I have multiple addicts in my family and that has happened more than once.
Anon33- unless your relatives shamed the addicts in front of a national TV audience, I think Khloe wins the counterproductive approach of the year contest….. 🙂
Shaming tends to backfire in many different contexts, tempting though it might be to try.
I believe she loves him. I also believe that love is not stronger than her family’s vulture culture. I’d truly believe this was all altruistic if she announced that she was going to leave the show and focus on her marriage right now. That seems incredibly unrealistic and against those people’s innate evil ways but I’d be all for it if it happened and would think much highly of her as I’m sure everyone would.
Also, if they’re the ones leaking all the stuff about his fragile condition and fragile mental state, they might want to rethink that because it doesn’t quite jive with him being able to make legal decisions….
Claire: I’d swear that I read somewhere yesterday that she already said that she is leaving the show. Apparently Kris is humouring her by allowing her to think that she can just walk away from the show, but, in reality (ha!), Khloe is under contract. Unfortunately the only real thing we know is that Lamar is in really bad shape.
@Claire I don’t believe repairing the marriage is the priority. His immediate recovery is the priority. Lamar needs the space and time to focus on his recovery from this crisis and then he will have to focus on the life long journey being a recovering addict. Once he has achieved stability in those areas he and Khloe may then be able to address their marital situation. I believe she loves him enough to put in the work. I hope he has the strength to get through all of this. I am rooting for the two of them. From what I have seen it seems as if Khloe started getting her body in mad gorgeous shape once Lamar really went out of control. That seems to be when the booty grew and the lips blew up. It all screamed look at me look at what you are missing Lamar to my eyes.
I admit I have always had a warm place in my heart for Khloe and Kourtney as well. I have never watched the show but Kourtney really comes across as a good mom. Her partner is no treasure but I have been willing to give Kourtney space because I believe she doesn’t trust men and I believe those issues are deeply seated and are derived from her witnessing how Kris handled her relationships with the men in her life. It is sad to me that since her separation from Scott Kourtney has allowed herself to be portrayed as out on the hunt and so sexy. Remember this is the same woman who has been portrayed as only being interested in sex when she wants another child.
Yeah I’m all for believing in him but I hope she gets herself into Alanon as soon as possible. I hope he gets himself into rehab once he’s physically able also.
Co-sign.
Alanon and therapy for being codependant/ no self esteem/ self worth! Nobody should be supportive of this or think its sweet! Its sick and gross to have no love for yourself to accept a cheating addict for a partner! Get psychiatric help if you get the feels for this crazy story as you obviously need it. AWW HE GAVE ME HIV/AIDS/HEPATITIS/HERPES IT MUST BE TRUE LOVE!!!
Sara, addiction is an awful thing. Some addicts come back and actually live wonderful lives after being brought so low from their addiction and some never come back. I think it’s entirely human to hope that Lamar gets well. I’ve known some people who in their sobriety have been an inspiration to so many people for decades and helped change lives so yes it is possible for Lamar to redeem himself if he wants to. All that other stuff you are mentioning is projection.
hmm
I went to Alanon when I was married to my first husband, and I thought it was horrible. I’m sure it depends on where you live, but mine was in TX, and was very religion-oriented and “it’s a sin to abandon him” was their theme song. My ex was a cheating drunk and instead of saying get out of there, they were encouraging me, no bullying me, to stay and help him, no matter what he did, even after the mental abuse became physical. Their suggestions were pray, try not to let it bother you, ignore it, don’t encourage it, don’t enable it – I was enabling it by staying in it. I am sure there are good groups out there, but I thought the one I went to was full of idiots in denial who didn’t have the guts to leave and wanted everybody else to be stuck too.
NOT PROJECTION! I hope all addicts and abusers find help and become productive members of society. I do not agree that partners or family must continue to be abused or be enablers. I believe especially women must protect themselves first! Sorry not sorry!
Gnat your life stories are always so interesting. Not sure you’ll see this post…that sounds awful
“Just because most of us are pessimists, cynics and jaded a—holes”
That’s me in a nutshell.
That’s me as well. Specifically I’m a jaded a-hole.
You might be jaded, but you’re not an a-hole!
@GNAT Thank you. That’s very kind of you. I do have a-hole moments. 😉
Everybody does. Sometimes I’m being an a-hole and I know it but I can’t stop. But generally speaking, you are awesome!
I know many support them and want them to work out, but Lamar seems to be a very abusive person, like the kind of person who threatens suicide every time things are on a down turn in the relationship, or forbids his wife to have any friends of her own. He seems like the kind of man who needs to constantly check his wife’s cell phone and one who turns into a drill sergeant if she leaves the house without telling him exactly where she was going and how long she would be. Khloe is a grown woman and can make her own decisions, and maybe he will get sober, but from the outside it seems that too much damage has been done, and he has issues that go beyond recreational drug use. Dude is crazy.
Yeah, it’s called Malignant Narcissism. Once he’s on the mend, she should get out. Someone that abusive usually can’t change. Their brains literally cannot generate empathy, which is essential for a healthy relationship. They can fake it like san Oscar winner, but repeated let-downs prove it’s FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!
Judging from stories told by friends and acquaintances, Lamar does not lack empathy. There are reasons he is well liked. He does seem to lack emotional strength to deal with bad memories and difficult situations and tends to run away rather than face conflicts on his personal life. This affected his relationships long before he met Khloe.
Oh please. Khloe is no victim. She cheated on him, and did drugs with him when they were married. When did this woman become a saint? She is a truly terrible person, just like the rest of her family.
There’s no evidence that Lamar is a control freak. Something else is driving him. Khloe does have strong control freaky tendencies, however, which can also be damaging to a relationship.
It’s not difficult to understand why she’d believe him. He could have died, it should be a wake up call..
Nevertheless, we all know getting over a drug addiction isn’t that easy. I do hope that he gets the help he needs to overcome it.
On a superficial note, people always talk about the butt and lips, but in the last couple of days seeing the old pics of Khloe and Lamar its very clear she got her chin shaved, I wanted to attribute it to her weight loss but the whole shape in different.
I would just hate to see Khloe nurse him back to health and go running back to him, just for him to go back to drugs and cheat on her again. She owes him nothing.
Alanon is a good idea, Luca.
I don’t think she’ll regret giving him another chance even if it turns out badly. On the other hand, she might very much regret it if she didn’t. It’s a risk, but she filed for divorce once and she can do it again. Her first priority right now is to help him stay alive and recover as much as is possible. They can rethink it later if that’s successful.
It’s not as though she’s giving up a vital career for him…. This is a more important job than she’s ever had before. Might help her sort out her own priorities.
I stand corrected in that she does really love him. I hope he gets into a program and gets clean and sober after he recovers.
And you’re right, hope is good.
Count me among the “pessimists, cynics and jaded a—holes”; but I sincerely wish them the best.
oh god bless saint cardashian!
http://nypost.com/2015/10/18/how-the-kardashians-destroy-peoples-lives-for-reality-ratings/
“Khloé Kardashian and her clan have done what they do best: make the story all about them.”
Ah, the NY post…pot meet kettle?
I believe that there’s a lot of manipulation going on, but the Post should not point at others.
Thanks for the link, missmerry. I found the article interesting, as I’m not as knowledgable as others on here about the nitty-gritty details of this family. As an Aussie, I’m not very familiar with the New York Post, either. So, it’s a bit of a rag, then?
No matter how many times I see them – and that’s too many times – Kim’s boobs always make me do a double-take. How does she not topple forward?
It’s a bit of a rag but it’s spot on.
Here’s another brutal one from the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lamar-odom-plaschke-20151021-column.html
That’s some Warped S***
Well, nothing like a brush with death to lead to change.
Pessimists and jaded a-holes are welcome over here with me. Something just doesn’t smell right.
totally agree! especially after the news of her memoir coming out. I wish them the best and sincerely hope Lamar recovers and is sober and healthy and can enjoy life.
Isn’t she awfully young to have a memoir? She’s not much past 30.
What can I bring? Cake? Wine? Chocolate? Vodka? Lasagne?
Wine. Always wine.
I’m with you guys. Something smells rotten here. @SydneySnider yes to all of it!
The Kardashians have been beat up a lot in these stories, and while I think some (Kris, Kim) are low enough to look at this as a publicity opportunity, the fact that Khloe hasn’t left his side and withdrew the divorce says a lot to me. One of my immediate family members is a drug addict and I feel like you just cannot understand what having a close relationship with an addict is like until you do. The ways they hurt the people around them and put everyone who cares about them through the wringer are truly unimaginable. If that family member was in the hospital, I honestly don’t know if I’d go. If Khloe is doing all of this, I really believe she does love him.
Sometimes addicts have to hit rock bottom. My cousin giving birth to her daughter that had fetal alcohol syndrome made her never touch a drink again. It was in that moment she realized her addiction was hurting other people, not just her. Perhaps Lamar reached that point; waking up to find the woman he loves standing there, worried, possibly crying, broken up about the idea he could’ve died. And perhaps then he had a moment of clarity.
However (and I may get heat for this), I don’t think that family is healthy for someone in Lamar’s state. The first parts of recovery–I’ve seen a lot of people want privacy as they sort out their own heads. The Kardashians don’t know the meaning of the word “privacy” and his rehab and recovery will be broadcast for all to see. So while he may be on the road to recovery (and a lot of addicts relapse), if I was him, I’d sign a contract with E! that my NA meetings or whatever not get put on TV. He can’t stop the magazine leaks; the mother is going to release them whether he wants to or not but at least he maybe can stop the TV show.
I don’t think the family is healthy for Lamar either. If they keep what happened to him off the show then I could believe they want to help him.
@MonicaQ, I agree with your comment. I’d even go a step further and say that I don’t think that the family is healthy for Khloe, either. These women are entirely too involved in each other’s lives. I have a sister I’m close to and the relationship between the Kardashian women really baffles me. They’re all so involved in parts of each other’s lives that normal people would consider crossing a boundary, but in areas that normal sisters are involved, that’s off limits to them. For example, I would never vocally bash my sister’s relationship unless something really really bad happened, and even then I’d be really careful with my words because that part of her life doesn’t involve me whatsoever. But if my sister was running around at 18 like Kylie Jenner, I would straight up tell her to knock it off and that she needs to cool her jets and slow down. These women openly judge and pick at each other’s long term relationships, but it’s totally taboo to them to say to their little sister “you have way too much makeup on.” I find it so bizarre.
They’re ass backwards. I notice a lot in the show that Khloe is vocal and very tough with people, but if Kim voices disapproval (and she always does because she’s a terribly judgmental person), Khloe immediately folds and does whatever Kim approves of. For example, I just saw an episode where Kim gave Khloe sh-t for speaking to Lamar. Personally, I would’ve shut that conversation down by telling my sister that it simply isn’t her business. Khloe on the other hand went above and beyond to try to justify her actions to her sister.
Does anyone remember when Khloe pulled away from her family to focus on her marriage when her and Lamar were still together? Her sisters and her mother acted like it was the end of the world and couldn’t talk enough sh-t. They’re really a coven, they feed off of each other and when someone actually makes an effort to have a healthy, happy, NORMAL relationship, Kris and Kim don’t let it happen.
There’s a weird thing that happens to rats called “rat king phenomenon.” Basically a group of rats live so closely together that their tails get knotted together and they all end up starving because they can’t break apart. I liken this to the way the Kardashians live. They’re so heavily invested and intertwined with one another that all of their outside relationships fail as a result. They drag each other down.
Off topic, but I also think Kourtney and Scott might’ve been able to have a healthier relationship if she wasn’t so far up her family’s ass and actually had them butt out once in a while. Family is super important, but we all need our own lives as well.
Wow, that is spot on!
I want to believe…I really do. If she keeps this off her show, I will. Until then, for me, the jury is still out.
And I’m sorry but every time I see her now, all I can think of is how her new nose does not go with her face.
They were ALL so pretty before the surgeries.
Khloe may love him, but she can’t change him. Only he can change himself and I get the vibe that she feels if she goes back to him he will clean up and change. I hope it’s true and he will change, but I watched my own daughter and her fiance (who was a drug addict) and while he would stay clean for a while, everytime something went wrong it was back on the drugs. It eventually took him from us.
I don’t even believe that Lamar woke up long enough to make such a promise. This is just a good way to make up a story and keep the Kartrashians relevant. I think Radar Online had a story on that yesterday, saying that Lamar does not even communicate yet and is not out of the woods.
I always take what ROL says with a grain of salt. Their stories don’t ring true.
Hope is good, but at the same time this feels like he knew he had to do something awful so she’d come running back to help. Reminds me of a ex who would call saying “I’ve just done something-help” so I’d keep running back and he knew that was a way to manipulate.
I’m hoping that this wasn’t that situation. I’m hoping that it was all just a awful accident. I’m hoping that he recovers and they have a happy life. But the cynic in me has doubts.
Has the world changed so much that people are not horrified by the very detailed, very descriptive accounts of his health and mental state? If she is the only one who can see him, where does everyone think this constant stream of information is coming from, information that just so happens to paint her and her family in a positive light? (And I call bull on the idea that his kids couldn’t see him, although I could see that family making sure that they don’t so they can be the exclusive source of info).
My God, people, no one that loves another person would spread all of this private information to make themselves look good. No one. This is a sickening, crass display of using a man’s private medical situation to benefit yourself (and they’re probably get paid for it on top of the good PR) . Is this what young people call love these days?
I wouldn’t assume she’s the one telling the tabloids. She’s probably telling her mom, sisters and friends and they are blabbing to everyone.
If she’s telling them, she knows exactly where the information is going.
Yeah, she knows that Kris and Kim will spread anything she tells them. She did the same thing when Kris got busy feeding stories to the tabloids about Lamar after his cheating became public. But in this situation, it really is a dilemma for her. She needs to talk about it with someone and her family is expecting it to be them. So even if she gets the idea that privacy is important, she will have a hard time maintaining it at the moment. I learned early not to tell my mother anything for other reasons (she was a bundle of anxieties already), but Khloe has become used to oversharing.
Is this what young people call love these days?
Well, yes Or at least the fantasy based on romance, yes. And also, not just young people. Many adults, or mainly adults, are following and commenting on this. No wonder why marriages fail so much. Wanting a fairy tale seems to still dominate over actual reality. Marriage and relationships (any kind) take more than love to maintain. I thought that was basic knowledge, but I guess not.
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If that’s all what it takes for Lamar, he wouldn’t have cheated on her during marriage. And if Khloe is that stupid to believe that’s all it will take now, then she will soon awaken from her dream. Such promises only make things worse as Lamar might not keep the promise (let’s hope he does though) and then he failed both at his rehab AND AGAIN his marriage.
Oh and I remember many RDJ threads where people rightfully comment on his dependence of Susan for his sobriety. I guess that doesn’t apply to Lamar, it will work for Lamar somehow? If only it was that easy.
That kills me. I’ve been with my husband since HS and people remark “omg it must be so easy! You guys never fight and you love each other!”. Well yeah we love each other but we a) fight in private b) don’t post about it on social media c) talk about it like adults/talk to each other when we’re calmer. It’s not some magical *poof* this-was-destined-to-be like a lot of younger people think.
I got asked if my relationship was in trouble by my brother’s g/f (19) because I didn’t post my husband as my “man crush monday” or something and hadn’t talked about him in awhile on insta. Like what? Do people NEED affirmation of their relationships now? It no longer comes from within?
What information is actually in this “constant stream?” That he’s awake and speaking and breathing? I keep reading this rap that they are revealing details, None of this is very surprising or detailed, under the circumstances.
The really ugly details about his OD come from the brothel and police, not the K’s.
Are their constant dramatic speculations dressed as reporting? Yes, but I don’t see any evidence that this is real in anyway. Focusing on his recovery and leaving other issues, like their divorce to be dealt with later seems like common sense .
The only news about Lamar Odem`s health condition should be, if any, coming from his authorized representative.
Everything else is pure speculation by the press or by leaked sources, with personal interest. It could be, maybe, the aunt or the Kardashians or whoever.
It seems to me that reality-tv-press is making reality into reality-tv-press. Unreal.
And I guess that I want to reiterate that the so called leaks about his condition are very generic but that fact doesn’t fit with the tabloid story that many are so invested in.
I think it’s highly unfortunate from a legal and personal perspective, but having spent years working in a hospital system, I can tell you it’s almost impossible to hide the details of celebrity healthcare in major crises like this. Plenty of actual “professionals” are willing to sell the details even if the family isn’t.
I’m not convinced that he will be making it yet… there’s a lot that isn’t being said.
I doubt any lengthy discussions have occurred between them as he still sounds very sick. If it has, we will never know. I would imagine she withdrew the divorce because they still love each other and he needs her more than ever now. Death looming or jail many times is an addict’s rock bottom. I have been in recovery 15 years so the program works if you work it. It takes strength, dedication and a good support system. I wish them both a long and happy life together. I know he can do this if he wants it bad enough. If not, he will die next time.
Congrats on your 15 years! Keep strong and keep going.
I’m not surprised she did this at all. She seems to genuinely care about him. It would take a pretty cold person to keep divorce proceedings going when his/her spouse is in the hospital in serious condition. It doesn’t sound like he has any other family to take care of him.
Just reinforces my belief that she’s the only Kardashian worth knowing.
This is a little off topic but Khloe could give Kim a lesson on how to pick a well fitted bra. And the NY Post article was awesome!
Did he get the same promise from her? She apparently likes to do coke according to several blinds that have been revealed. I thought the guy needed to learn to talk and walk again or was that just DM fodder?
Is he really capable mentally to be making decisions? This is really troubling. I have a feeling Kris is behind this for ratings. Smh.
When I first heard the divorce was dropped, it warmed my heart. Not sure why, but I’m oddly invested in these two. I watched their show during their marriage and I always really liked Lamar. I liked Khloe, too. I feel like Khloe changed for the better when she was with him and for the worse when they split up. I really think she loves him and if they could work their sh-t out, they could be very happy together.
I caught an episode of “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” yesterday and a huge part of the storyline was Khloe running away from Lamar after he showed up at a hotel she was making an appearance at with her friends. Granted, she said she would love to see him, just not in that atmosphere after not seeing him for years. I’m taking things with a grain of salt because we really don’t know much. During the episode, Kim was her usual overtly opinionated dumb self and kept giving Khloe and Kris Jenner sh-t for even speaking to Lamar at all and not cutting him out of their lives. It makes things feel pretty shady, but at the same time if Lamar was so gone on drugs that he was found with heroin, crack, and cocaine in his system and was dropping $75,000 in a whorehouse, clearly they had reason to want to be away from him. I’d run the other way too if anyone I knew was acting that crazy and refusing help. No matter how much you love anyone, in a situation like that you can’t put yourself in total danger just to have them around. This is also why Khloe finally filed for divorce after years of letting things linger because she was hoping he would stop being MIA, get help and work it out with her.
Also–For everyone saying Lamar has no family and that they had to drop the divorce because Khloe is the only one who can make his medical decisions, he has an aunt who raised him along with his grandmother. She has been by his side for just as much time as Khloe has since he was in the hospital. I do not think Khloe and Lamar called off their divorce so that she could remain in control of his medical issues because the man DOES have family that he loves and cares about and they love and care about him in return. Lamar’s aunt released a statement yesterday saying that he’s beginning to talk more and respond more. Her statements just don’t get attention because she isn’t a Kardashian so the media doesn’t care.
Wouldn’t further substance abuse kill him, in the condition he’s in?
I know generally addicts have a hard time staying clean etc, but it is refreshing that a celebrity isn’t willing to just bail on a relationship when times are tough. Whether it works out or not, I applaud her willingness to try unlike her selfish sister with the 90 day marriage.
I think it’s good she’s there for him and offering support, and to say all the divorce stuff is on hold and not a concern right now, but jumping right back into a relationship again after everything doesn’t seem healthy for either. He needs to get SERIOUS help and stop the drugs – not to win her back, but because he’s ready to quit drugs and be healthy. Otherwise his health becomes dependent on her, and that’s not good. And she needs to make some changes too, and decide if she wants to continue exploiting him and their relationship for TV.
I’m sure that Lamar is honest with all his heart when he says he never wants to do drugs again. Just look at what’s become of him due to drugs!
But sadly a promise is not all it takes, no matter how much you mean it, when you have profound drug abuse issues like this. I really hope that part of the plan is for Lamar to enter long term treatment for his addictions as soon as he is physically able. He has a long road ahead.
I’m thinking her divorce was about to be signed off and the thought of Lamar’s care being decided by his father wasn’t an acceptable option. I’m sure the fact she would come out looking like Florence Nightingale was an extra benefit.
Lamar can barely SPEAK!! This family keeps feeding the media crap.
I know this for a fact, and I am so tired of their lies. This man is mostly sedated with pain killers, it is touch and go. This man may not even make it god forbid.
this family is full of lies and Klohoe is determined to be the last chick standing for the rest of his fortune. its SICK!! As E prepares to film a “special” about him this weekend from his hospital room w/interviews from this circus family.
what’s next a vow renewal at his bedside???
I believe ALL of this. So sad.
I think Lamar’s progress is being greatly exaggerated. He may end up a vegetable. It is too soon to determine. Until I see a press conference with doctors from Cedars attesting to his condition and chance of regaining full functioning, I will not believe a word of the PR spin coming from the K monsters.
I am praying for Lamar’s recovery and happiness. Hope everything works out for him.
If their relationship ever has a chance she needs to get her ass to AL-ALON as much as he needs to get to AA/NA meetings (when he is well enough to get there). Knowing from my own personal experience of being married to a heroin addict, their addiction makes you sick as well. I hope Lamar does see this as a wake-up call and puts his sobriety and recovery a first priority. I can’t stand anything Kardashian, but if Khloe truly loves this man she will get help too and separate herself from that toxic family (as some others have pointed out the dysfunctional relationship she has with her sisters and mother). And more than anything, it would be nice not to get a blow-by-blow account of all that is happening with Lamar, so that I can believe the Kardashian family is NOT trying to cash in on the ratings for this tragic and sad situation.
If Khloe is the only Kardashian allowed to visit, that’s good. The circus would be too much for someone in his condition even if there weren’t a couple of snakes in the troop. She belongs there, they should send cards. But I hope it doesn’t mean his children and less disturbing blood relatives aren’t allowed in.
If he’s had two surgeries since he arrived and is in an agitated state, I can see why Khloe would make such a deal just to try to get him through this intact. So it may not be as naive as it sounds. But I hope she is getting realistic professional advice from someone not in her family about where to go from here and how. Lamar has admitted to being emotionally weak in the best of health. He has to find his own inner strength or else it will be right back to what put him in the hospital the first time he has to deal with something difficult. She has to find her own strength as well, she has many issues to work out herself.
It has occurred to me that she agreed to take the divorce off the table just to ease his emotional distress so he has a better chance at recovery. Then again, she clearly still loves the man to be at his side non-stop during all of this. That take some intestinal fortitude, because those situations are quite grim and scary. It would be MUCH easier to just run the other way and not deal. I suppose she might experience some public backlash, but from personal experience – everyone understand when you have to get a way from a relationship with a drug addict. At least all of my fans did.
If he indeed had a stroke, then it’s very possible that he’s not agitated, but rather increasingly emotional due to brain damage. My father had a hemorrhagic stroke and became very emotional. I don’t remember him crying before the stroke, but after it, he’d cry at both sad and happy moments.
His recovery should also be about restraining from alcohol and partying. Is Khloe going to be able to do that as well? Also, I thought the divorce was not just about his drug use but also about him cheating on her many times? Does she not care about that? Of course he will promise anything and at the moment he is probably wanting to never use drugs again but it is a long and hard battle and will most likely include many relapses. Is Khloe ready for that? Or is she going to file for divorce every time he relapses? Also, Khloe will need to quit her reality show or somehow never mention Lamar’s personal business in front of cameras again.
Just in time for her new book release 🙂
I really hope the withdrawal of divorce papers was for the technicality of keeping things calm regarding making medical decisions. It’s the worst possible time to “work” on a relationship that for all intents and purposes was over less than a week ago. He needs time to heal from this experience, and the added pressure of “saving” his relationship with Khloe would probably work against that. It’s like how people in AA or NA are told not to have romantic relationship (particularly in the first year after leaving rehab when they’re putting their lives back together again): sobriety should be their first and only priority.
And yeah, count me in on the jaded, pessimistic a-holes. This family didn’t give a f*ck about him until they could latch onto him to make themselves look good, while completely absolving themselves of being partially responsible for making him miserable and turning to drugs, knowing full well he has issues in that area. They’re vultures.
Kaiser, that was a very nice post. Thank you.
my ex had a solid three “scares of his life” that made him swear that he was scared straight
and then,… time had this funny way of dulling the memories,….
sorry to hear that but you are spot on in the time dulling the memories. I’m going through that with a family member. It’s so difficult bc I can’t understand how they don’t remember where they were and how much of a toll it took on them and their family. When the addiction wins, it’s hard and I give the utmost respect to any addict that has crossed over and has remained sober.
sorry right back atcha. it is so hard to watch… hang in there..
Well, he may be scared straight from his brush with death, but the cold reality is that he’s pretty much destroyed his kidneys – that’s what the dialysis means, and we don’t know the extent of the damage to other organs, apart from the fact that there was some brain damage. If he starts using again, he WILL kill himself. So his promise to Khloe is lovely and all, but it wasn’t a choice to get clean. It’s literally do or die. The only thing that remains to be seen now is whether he wants to live, or die.
My thoughts are that Khloe is someone who took her marriage very seriously, but she also is part of a massive co-dependent family and this fact is the backbone of their show. Khloe seems very affected by Lamar’s near-death experience and her actions seem to speak louder than any words. How do you walk away from someone you have loved so much when they are rock bottom? Now Hope, that eternal tease, has reared its head and has called to Khloe’s heart and she has heard Lamar’s plea for another chance. What more is there?
This story is an easy one to be “judgey” about – especially since it concerns a Kardashian and other colorful elements, like a brothel, hookers and drugs. But I’m not going to. Given the fact that it’s “Mental Health Week”, I’m going to try to find some humanity in this. I think Lamar is actually a really good guy and I think he was truly happy/in love with Chloe. I just think the pressure of being linked up in the family (with so much of his own private, dirty laundry being “used” for ratings) – I think it got to him (as it would any of us, really). Everyone has different coping mechanisms. Unfortunately, Lamar’s were destructive, but that’s not unusual either. I think what we’re seeing now – with Chloe rushing to his side, calling off the divorce, etc… is love. It might be tough love, painful love, messy love… but it’s love all the same.
I think she does love him. I also think she wants to be how wife so if/when he passes she can be his widow.
I dunno. I think Khloe would rather have Lamar alive than dead, despite the money angle. The money may not last anyway. He may not be in a condition to do much after all this, although it’s too early to tell. At the moment and for the foreseeable future, he’s not really the star to which she would hitch her wagon if money were a real motivation.
At the same time, Khloe doesn’t really have special skills, so her own shelf life is approaching. She has blown opportunities by not bothering to get the training and skills she needed to do well in jobs handed to her on a silver platter, thinking she could just walk in and be herself and that would be enough. She poses for pictures and gets interviewed about her life to go along with the pictures, but doesn’t seem to honestly do much else.
Once the shows are done and/or her mother can no longer set up deals due to lack of interest or her own need to slow down (or if Lucifer comes for that soul she sold him long ago) – I don’t know how well any of them will do on their own except for Kourtney. The rest seem so unprepared for anything but being rich. Kim might think she is set with Kanye, but if he finally goes over the cliff then her opportunities there will dry up also.
Yes, he will do drugs again but no, her heart won’t be broken again because I don’t think it’s in it this time. This is about making sure he doesn’t die right now, and about the drama for the show, and about all the money (he is worth, by some estimates, five times as much as she is). And when he does drugs again, his liver will fail and he’ll die and that will be that. And I think she knows it.
If it’s true, I wish them luck, but I admit I’m a little cynical about it. I spent too many years working in a rehab hospital to believe near death experiences are enough to scare an addict straight, so for Lamar’s sake I hope he gets the counseling and help that he needs to get his life on track both for himself and his family.
Sure…he means it now, but that’s also because he can’t get his hands on coke or alcohol at the moment. Time will tell. I think she did the right thing though. She clearly never stopped loving him and wanted him back, so I can’t fault her for giving him another chance. I just hope he gets the therapy he desperately needs. He will never be able stay sober or love someone else if he doesn’t love himself.
Now that’s a foundation to build on.