Duchess Camilla is dealing with chronic pain issues & it’s affecting her schedule

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Here are some photos of the Duchess of Cornwall (Camilla Parker-Bowles) making a trip to Emmaus Village in Bedford, England on Thursday. We often talk about how few engagements the Cambridges actually do, but it’s worth noting that Camilla has been pulling out of a lot of scheduled engagements this year. Camilla has health problems and she’s been dealing with them for years. I believe she’s had a few back surgeries, and at one point she was MIA for a few months completely. While Camilla stepped out for this engagement on Thursday, she pulled out of the reception/party at Buckingham Palace earlier in the week because of back and shoulder pain.

THE Duchess of Cornwall missed a glittering Buckingham Palace reception for diplomats after suffering muscular pain in her neck and shoulder, Clarence House said. Camilla, 68, had been due to join the Queen, Prince Philip, Prince Charles and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge at the white tie reception for 1,500 guests on Tuesday, one of the highlights of the royal calendar, but pulled out on the advice of her doctors.

A Clarence House spokeswoman said: “The Duchess of Cornwall did not attend the reception on medical advice, due to neck and shoulder pain.”

Camilla, who last missed engagements in September due to a stomach bug, has had the problem for a while but is not expected to miss any further engagements.

She has supported campaigns to combat osteoporosis, which killed her mother, but sources close to her have insisted she does not suffer from the brittle bone disease.

[From Express]

In her youth, Camilla was always quite active and quite an outdoorswoman. She loved horseback riding, hunting and all kinds of activities we associate with the royal family. But… she’s 68 years old. And she doesn’t have Queen Elizabeth’s hearty genes. Camilla seems like she’s probably dealing with some significant chronic pain issues. I believe she’ll probably start editing down her schedule in the months and years to come, which… is probably bad news for the Cambridges. It means that there will be even more expectations that they step up and start taking over some of Charles and Camilla’s work/appearances. And that will be the beginning of the end.

Incidentally, if you follow the Daily Express’s Richard Palmer on Twitter (@RoyalReporter), he’s been tweeting some interesting stuff today about how British royal reporters and editors are tired of the Cambridges and their only-cover-us-while-at-events attitude. Some of the tweets are really interesting.

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  1. Wentworth Miller says:

    There’s something about her that disturbs me.

  2. Lilacflowers says:

    I live with chronic neck pain. It can severely limit range of motion, which can make conversation with someone to the side of you difficult because you can’t turn your head to look at them.

    I wish her well.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Oh, I’m sorry. I said below, that would be so difficult to deal with. It would be impossible to go to these events where you stand around for long periods of time chatting.

    • LadyMTL says:

      My dad has fibromyalgia and he sometimes has trouble just walking up a flight of stairs; chronic pain really is horrible.

      I have injured my back a few times and – though I won’t go as far as to say I have chronic issues – I am very careful now about what I do. In fact, my office Christmas party is tonight and I’m deliberately showing up on the late side so I don’t have to stand around too long in my heels. I can only imagine if Camilla had to do that on a regular basis, how painful it must get.

      • wolfie says:

        Wearing heels is like the ancient foot binding practices in China – meant to control women – meant for the male gaze. The old geezers loved their women with “lotus” feet.

        Most women care very much abut being “lusted” after. Perhaps I am tired of it, because all I care about is running free as the wind.

    • PunkyMomma says:

      I wish her well, too.

    • Birdix says:

      oh that’s rough. I have a similar experience when a migraine is coming on (turning my head hurts so much). Not to make light of it, but the silliest was the one time I went to a fashion show in nyc with a friend–I was the only person just looking straight ahead as the models sashayed by. But to be serious, it’s surprising how limiting it feels when it hurts to turn your head.

      • FLORC says:

        Birdix
        We may have discussed this before, but I have suffered from migraines for years, but got relief in botox injections. It’s around the forehead and scalp surrounding the head and close enough to relieve neck pains too. Not enough for cosmetics on the scale most celelbs have.
        Before that treatment it was a med that was a pill I took when I felt it coming on. Now I just never have to worry. It really is crippling pain. And depression is all too common when your body is suffering from that so greatly it makes complete sense to not go on because the pain is all consuming. Again. My heart goes out to all who suffer with Chronic pain.

  3. COSquared says:

    Not everyone has those tough-as-nails Windsor genes. Too bad she missed out on a tiara outing.

    • Nikki says:

      My in-laws are incredibly hearty and strong well into their 80’s and 90’s, for generations. They exhaust me; I’ve long called family vacations “fat girl camp” because they are all ceaselessly active. My sympathies to anyone in chronic pain.

  4. vava says:

    Not sure exactly what “that will be the beginning of the end” means????

    • Tiffany says:

      That once the Queen, Prince Philip, POW and DOC cannot keep up their current pace and it falls on the shoulders of Willnot and Doolittle, it will fall.

      • FLORC says:

        It won’t. The Queen started transitioning more of her duties to Charles. And in turn Charles needed to delegate his duties to make room. His duties being the POW role was passed on by William. Because ofcourse. And Harry and the other cousins stepped up to help Charles.

        The Cambridges can refuse or pass on all the work that doesn’t involve games or brief times and nothing will be done. Meanwhile the BRF junior and senior will do what the heir to the heir refuses.

        For what it’s worth this reminds me of something. If my mother asked me to study, or get ready for an event (dance/travel packing/school testing subjects/etc..) and I passed on her suggestion she would tell me to do it right then. If I was so confident I didn’t need to prepare myself I must be prepared in full. I sort of wonder that if Charles was to not be able to fulfill his POW duties suddenly would William be even close to knowing what to do? Or would he need several years and a slow start to acclimate himself?

        Fail to Prepare/Prepare to Fail.

      • wolfie says:

        William seems to be telling the world that his future is settled, as Diana’s son, and he will do as he pleases. His only mission is to look like a “good guy”, flying copters. I can understand his anger in that the Queen remarked that someone must have greased the brakes on the car that killed Diana. Diana ultimately is bringing down the house of Windsor, because William won’t get on with it – her hurts are his lunch.

      • wolfie says:

        When one is working at a task that affect the general welfare, it will require rising above the party interests of Charles and Diana, in order for William to achieve something decisive. Only in dispersing his mother’s hate and anger will he find his divisive egotism, misanthropy and alienation disappearing, so that he might gain an unobstructed view on humanity. He has so many barriers against others, and he needs to find ways to renounce them. I find it pitiful if he does not find the brains or heart for this achievement. The Middleton’s encourage thumb-sucking – and sadly, the Windsor’s do not seem to be able to influence him to the degree required. He seems to require the attentiveness of Kate (and Carole) that he lost with his mother’s death – and they will fight to keep this power over him. “Have some cheese toast, Willy”.

  5. LAK says:

    I wish her better health and a long life simply because I don’t want to see Charles’s forlorn ‘woe is me’ face/demeanour if she passes.

    • COSquared says:

      They seem settled, don’t they? Charles and Camz are balls of fun when together. The man also can be commended(or rather, Camz can be envied) for the good jewelry collection she has. They simply seem happy.

      • Naya says:

        Its easy to appear happy when you have a wife who slinks away to a different house at your signal. I’m far more interested in how many days they have spent in the same house together this year than which ribbon cutting they attended for “work” today.

      • MyHiddles says:

        Speaking of faces, why is Camilla throwing a Blue Steel in that pic?

      • FLORC says:

        Complete Blue Steel!

      • Citresse says:

        Naya
        Exactly. I think Charles has Aspergers. So in addition to all the blatant shagging with Camilla, Diana just couldn’t take it (living with Charles).

    • wolfie says:

      Charles has worked tirelessly for the good of the Commonwealth. I wish him only happiness in his future – and Camilla at his side. We all make butt-ugly mistakes – but redemption is taught by every religion under the sun. In my mind, he’s earned it.

      • Citresse says:

        Redemption is earned by honesty. The truth shall set you free.
        Organized religion is not a part of my life. However I do have personal beliefs especially with regard to our place in the Universe.
        Charles and Camilla are not honest. They’re not real. You can appear to work tirelessly for others (and I do believe Charles cares about certain issues such as climate change) but honesty is a separate matter. Charles has lied about Camilla since day one and it appears he’ll take those lies to his grave.

      • wolfie says:

        Sometimes I see Diana going bat-shit cray over Camilla’s pomposity. Other times I see her being gracious. However, I am certain that the feelings that William perceives would be hers, are his own.

    • Citresse says:

      Again, Aspergers. Think of the entire history. It’s well documented. Aspies hate having their schedules disrupted for any reason. Start when Charles began playing polo at what age? 14?

      • Citresse says:

        And I don’t mean Aspergers starts at age 14. Start studying Charles’ entire life. His (inappropriate comments) way back, beginning as a child. You’ll see it. Then think of what he said during the engagement interview with Diana.
        He’ll be King Charles the third, the Autistic King. Only a very few know, and Camilla is one of them.

  6. aims says:

    My mother in law is at least ten years younger and her knees are a problem and she just had hip replacement surgery. MIL was an avid hiker and was always pushing the limits with her body. Things that you do when you’re young can bite you in the butt.

    • Birdix says:

      Interesting. My mom is 10 years older, was moderately active but never a serious athlete and she’s still happily working a full-time desk job, walking her dog, active social engagements, etc. She’s the busiest person I know.

      • aims says:

        It was so weird. As soon as she hit 50, all these health problems happen. Her knees started to ache, she had hip replacement, arthritis ect. She had always been very active. Another thing that was strange was she had always been long and lean (she was a model) but when menopause hit. She shrunk and gained a lot of weight.

    • Ange says:

      I feel her. I’m only 35 but have been dealing with terrible injuries and pain since my late 20s. It started with a horrible back injury with prolapsed discs and continued into a knee reconstruction, now chronic tendinitis throughout my body. I’ve always been active and played sport and love it, now my body is betraying me. I can hardly walk when I get up in the mornings, it’s quite depressing.

      • wolfie says:

        “Mercy has a human heart, and pity a human face”. I hope that you find yourself surrounded by love during your times of despair. No one escapes suffering in our world – but tenderness and kindness rule.

  7. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Can’t stand her, but I do sympathize with anyone suffering from chronic pain. I have been lucky with that, but it must be awful to have constant pain in your back and neck.

    I didn’t know osteoporosis could actually kill you.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      It can if you have a bad fracture — complications. For example, a bad hip fracture that leaves you disabled/in a wheelchair, you can develop blood clots, breathing problems etc. Or during the fracture-surgery period, infection and clots. Or spinal issues. Compression fractures that collapse your upper torso can affect breathing and other vital organs. So I don’t know – I’d have to ask around – if it’s a direct cause of death, but it can result in earlier mortality, and definitely morbidity – a lot of pain and disability. OMG, GNAT this is not a cheerful discussion! Everybody go lift weights and eat some cheese!

      As for chronic pain, there are all kinds of existing and emerging psychosocial treatments as well. It’s a big public health issue, very disabling, and the drugs aren’t a good long-term solution.

      Must hurt her a lot, she seems outgoing and hasn’t shirked her duties otherwise.

    • suziekew says:

      I am a few years younger than Camilla and I certainly empathize with her and chronic pain. I was always very active in my life but about 3 years ago, it all came tumbling down when the pain in my neck, shoulders became very severe. I still work and do my housework, gardening but it’s a struggle every day to get up and get moving. Talking to people standing up is def a problem – the neck just doesn’t cooperate any longer. As far as death, no I don’t think the pain will kill you but the depression you may develop because you’re not able to keep up with what you once could do before the pain, can definitely give you pause to think it’s not the life you want to keep living. I sincerely hope she can find a solution to give her some ease and continue living a somewhat active life.

    • FLORC says:

      GNAT
      I can stand her fine! 😛
      And yes, it can be a very serious condition. Absolutely crippling and sometimes fatal from complications. Making your bones brittle opens the door to extremely serious risks. Factor in the Chronic pain and restrictive movement and Depression is also a serious condition to be dealt with.

      For those who have chronic pain my heart goes out to them. It’s a living hell emotionally, psychologically and physically.

  8. lizzieb says:

    It sucks to get old. You realize the only thing that matters is good health. All the money in the world can’t buy good health. However, if you’re healthy, all the money in the world would be fun.

  9. Bridget says:

    Seriously ladies, lift weights. Weight bearing exercise improves bone density, which is especially important for women as we get older.

  10. Eleonor says:

    I ask myself if the suddenly full schedule of Kate and William is due to Camilla’s health…

    • Sarah says:

      Who knows? But I think it’s kinda sad when some grannies (Camilla and Princess Anne) are outperforming their 30-something counterparts (Will and Kate). Talk about lazy!

  11. Cee says:

    As someone with chronic pain, I feel for her. I’m 28 and cannot imagine the pain I will be in when I reach her age.

    • wolfie says:

      This might sound silly – but in my times of despair, I lay and imagine that I am suffering and enduring with the rest of all the people in the world who are suffering too. It brings up such feelings of compassion for myself and others. It’s a club of pity and strength and compassionate love. It helps a lot.

  12. Betti says:

    I have grown to like Cams and she has worked consistently over the years and if she’s in chronic pain then she should rest up. Thou I wonder how that will fair when Chuck takes the throne – his plans to streamline the Monarchy will have to go out the window particularly as we all know the Buckets won’t step up and support Charles/Cams. If Waity was any sort of royal DIL she would be supporting Cams but those designer clothes won’t shop for themselves.

    Re: the Palmers tweets, very interesting. Editors are as fed up with the Normal Bill and Katie Buckets image controlling ways as everyone else. I’ll bring the wine.

    • FLORC says:

      They can only parade their children for their personal gains so many times before the journalist and news gets tired of that.

      I think it’s only a matter of time and money. The news will go with what gets clicks. If the fluffy articles are tough to swallow they won’t keep pushing them unless there are other motives. As it stands the articles are passive aggressive when trying to be flattering. They’re fun reads.

      • Betti says:

        ITA – plus combined with the apathy that news about these 2 are generating. People have lost interest in them, their focus is now on Harry – he’s fun, accessible and the younger generation seem to relate to him better. I think the ‘hiding away and then showing up for max press attention’ is back firing on the Buckets – people see shots of Kate promoting bullying and what do they talk about, what she wore and how she looked. With William there is even less interest – if there is an article about him ‘saving the elephants’ people are like ‘but he hunts game in Africa’ so why would they take him seriously. With Harry people pay attention to his causes (OK we might join Michael K on the ‘Hot Prince Ginge’ wagon) because you can see the passion there, you can see that he really really wants to make a different. With the Buckets is obvs that its just for PR.

        Re: Palmer. He can be a bit whiney but he’s playing the same game all the other Royal Correspondents are playing with the Cambridges. At some point the tide will turn against them and it will be epic – we can only imagine the stuff that they have covered up for over the years. Not just for William but for her and her family as well. Uncle G is as dodgy as hell and he has more to give.

        Also, apols for some of the typos in my posts – i sometimes post from my mini tablet and damn autocorrect takes over 🙁 Must remember to switch it off. 😉

      • FLORC says:

        Betti
        When the press cracks it will be a sight! Passive aggressive if not outright snark at it’s finest imo.
        And had anything constructive come from any charity visit i’d cut slack. If they showed up for a fundraiser or became involved in promoting any that would be a complete WIN. That these events are added last minute. Are noted to have some rescheduled dozens of times. Attended late and leaving early while said to be only educating the Cambridges on the needs instead of discussing what can be done is shady.
        Display you read scientific reports. Show us you are energized! Go to a charity “private/secret” meeting and ask them what you can do or give them ideas of what you think you can do. This photo op/games filler business shows nothing of substance and it’s wearing thin.

      • wendi says:

        Display you read scientific reports. Show us you are energized! Go to a charity “private/secret” meeting and ask them what you can do or give them ideas of what you think you can do. This photo op/games filler business shows nothing of substance and it’s wearing thin.
        ————————————————————————————————————————————
        Exactly!!! The way Kate went on about her “work” in the mental health field in one of her recent speeches made me cringe. Seriously, her “work”?? That demeans and denegrates those who have spent years researching or working hands on in the field. Showing up and acting interested for a few minutes wearing fancy clothes is not work in my book, but it seems to earn brownie points for Kate.

      • FLORC says:

        Wolfie
        It’s so irritating this is what gets passed for work. Especially when it only takes WK to give their sign off for a press release to do more. They need only be figureheads, but still this is not done. That there’s been no progress outside of photos and PR statements says so much. Although much news of lack of action as the charities attempt or achieve fund raising on their own.

      • wolfie says:

        Florc, your comment is why I see Sixer’s predictions for the Cambridge’s coming true.

    • COSquared says:

      Personally, I can’t take Palmer seriously as a correspondent with good sources. He’s definately not in the league of old school Whittaker and Morton or even the new school of Sykes or Cambridge propagandist Nicholl. Unless he comes out with something…that sheds light, I can’t take him seriously.

      • FLORC says:

        COSquared
        I can’t take Nichollls seriously. There’s so much double talk and contradicting information. She’s hit and miss, but toe to toe Palmer is far more credible as a journalist IMO. Morton and Whittaker were top tier and trusted resources for a reason. Even if they did do as requested to put forth a false image for the sake of the Monarchy. I thought Whittaker’s coverage of William growing up, Kate, and their relatioship was well covered. Not really a bias and always polite in the phrasing. He was an insider and respected for very good reasons.

      • COSquared says:

        The only good thing that makes Nicholl near credible is her (direct) source of information:Kate. Her tales may vary, but at least she has contact with a royal.

      • FLORC says:

        COSquared
        My post didn’t stick so i’ll sum it.
        I think toe to toe Palmer is a more credible journalist than Nicholls. She has a direct line, but that hasn’t kept her from directly contradicting herself and loads of double talk. Palmer sways, but not like KN.

        And Whittaker was honorable! His coverage on William growing up, Kate, and their full relationship together has been honest and well phrased. Although he had before admitted to falsely supporting an image of C and D’s happy marriage because it was requested. He was respectful and kept that line to the royals open.
        What I sort of can’t stand is with how accurate and respected he was many of his stories about William regarding Kate or Kate’s normal young 20’s (although embarrassing) moments got whitewashed post marriage. He was careful in his words and polite, but still it had to be scrubbed. Hmm…

        And Morton. Respectful, polite, and had a direct line, but he did as he was asked also.

      • antipodean says:

        FLORC, I would agree mostly with what you say, but I have to beg to differ about Morton. I think he was latterly revealed to be a bumptious toady, and was pretty much in Diana’s pocket with regard to what he revealed about her and Chuck’s marriage. After that I felt he really wasn’t to be totally trusted Maybe it was the price he paid for getting the inside scoop Those old days of tapped cell phones, and hang up calls seem quite quaint now in the light of how social media has opened up all aspects of what used to be a private life. I don’t know if that is a good thing or not.

      • FLORC says:

        antipodean
        I thought I covered that, but it didn’t make it into my 2nd draft! We do agree.
        Morton was sketchy in his practice and Diana was a master manipulator of the story (It’s true don’t yell at me people).
        Still, he was polite and had a direct royal line. If he was 2 faced it was 1 of his faces.

        Social media is something I keep away from. I do find it nice for checks and balances purposes of those on tax funds (Royals and politicians). If they are as they should be or claim to there’s no “gotcha” story and no one cares. If they aren’t it’s a wonderful tool for exposing abuses of the systems. And the press and outlets like FB are quite willing to remove sensetive information if it truly was a private moment.

        The line is privacy vs secrecy.

    • Mel M says:

      @betti Yeah, I follow Clarence House on IG and they are working all of the time.

    • Jib says:

      I read the Palmer tweets and he seemed to be complaining that no one takes Kate seriously, like the intelligent and articulate woman she is, instead focusing on her clothes and hair. I was like, WTF????

      • notasugarhere says:

        Post the secret meeting where the press saw the children, many of them have turned into sycophants again.

  13. coconut says:

    sorry to hear about her pain. looks like she’s lost weight (in her face)…still needs a bra fitting.

  14. Lady D says:

    I’m 55. The neuropathic disease in my feet is literally killing them, and the pain can keep my off my feet for 3 days (of hell) at a time. The atrophy is getting worse, my toes are already curled under, and my arches have risen 1/2″ in the last 5 years. You should see how high my arches are now. They are displacing the tongue of my shoes and shoving them over to the side. The last specialist I spoke to told me that in less than 10 years, they would be amputating because of the pain and the atrophy. Not sure I can handle another decade of this pain. My morphine has been upped 3 times in the past decade and I don’t want it upped again. I love my brain and the thought of turning it to mush with painkillers really scares me, but the pain… I just want to be healthy.

    • maggie says:

      That sounds awful! You are still a relatively young woman. I’m sorry you are going through this. I had over correction on bunion surgery several years ago. Now I’m unable to ski or run without doing more damage. We don’t realize how important our feet are.

      • Lady D says:

        Thank you maggie. It really sucks when you lose the ability to do something you took for granted your whole life. I’ve heard all kinds of horror stories from people that have had bunion surgery. It’s supposed to be straight pain both from the bunion, the surgery, and afterwards. Good luck.

    • FLORC says:

      Lady D
      *HUGS*
      Painkillers can easily become more than a way to prevent suffering. I don’t blame you for that hesitation.
      Where Nerve Blockers aren’t possible it becomes tough to regulate pain outside of addictive meds like Morphine. I hope you’re able to be healthy. Find that balance. And not suffer like that. All teary thinking about it. I wish the very best for you!

      My father had chronic neck pain from nerve damage, but could get a direct shot through the neck to the spine for a nerve blocker. Chronic pain and the meds to manage it changes a person so greatly. I hope you have good and responsible doctors with a support system and few truly bad days. It can make it impossible to remember the good days during those flair ups, but they did happen and can happen again!

      • Lady D says:

        FLORC you are so kind to so many, your soul must glow golden.
        I made it into a pain management clinic (long waiting list) and the first treatment was 20 needles in each foot with a sugar solution designed to irritate, inflame and tighten the tendons in my feet, giving me more control over them. They did this once a month for three months. On the 3rd visit, I refused to let him put the needle into the balls of my feet. I couldn’t handle the pain and the treatment started flashbacks. I was switched to a clinic closer to home in the 4th month and that dr. said the needles were ‘the wrong treatment for me.’ 60 needles in my feet. I wanted to hurt someone. I also had a nerve blocker in my spine, but it did nothing. On the plus side, the epidural didn’t hurt at all, I felt nothing.

  15. FuefinaWG says:

    Kind of OT:
    I was listening to Coast to Coast a few nights ago, and there was a woman on the show giving predictions for 2016. She said there would be a death in the RF and it wouldn’t be QEII or Philip … it would be Charles …

    • FLORC says:

      Every year they predict that. It’s not psychic ability to speculate late 80 and 90 year old who have both recently had hospital stays could pass soon.
      On that same topic have I told you I have a bridge for sale with your name on it?

      • CG says:

        FLORC: FuefinaWG said that the psychics predicted *Charles* would die, not the Queen or Philip.

      • FLORC says:

        CG
        Had they said Harry or William I’d raise of of an eyebrow. They’ve still picked someone older. And It’s just entertainment. Year after year claims are made by self proclaimed psychics making high profile predictions. Or rather prediction concerning higher profiles to make the news. And they by majority live and avoid the scandals predicted.

        So all the same it’s a lower chance of failure than someone younger and healthier.

        And I recall some claiming Harry would die in service while in afghanistan and William would be a young king in his 20’s. So, about that bridge.

      • CG says:

        FLORC: Oh, I’m not saying I believe psychics at all! In fact I vividly remember my grandma buying a copy of Star or the Enquirer waaaaaaay back before Charles and Diana got divorced — those psychics predicted C&D would have a daughter named Kimberly (!), Di would eventually let her hair go gray but keep the same short style, and obvs they did not foresee the messy divorce because she was Queen Di according to them. So yeah, tabloid psychics are clearly on target.

  16. Murphy says:

    She has osteoporosis

  17. Citresse says:

    I was the one who wrote on CB something was up with Camilla (her health, how she was missing key dates etc….) No one supported me on that statement. That’s OK- don’t worry about it. But allow me to state the following: KARMA is a b**** (well, actually I’m not really convinced on the subject of KARMA) but genetics; yeah. Look how her mom went out.

    • FLORC says:

      Gives you a cookie. *pours water on your torch*
      It’s genetics. And no matter how much you dislike people it’s distastful to take joy in their Chronic Pain. That is a truly evil living hell I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
      Hae that pain for just 1 continuous day and you couldn’t want that for anyone unless there was something really wrong.

      • Citresse says:

        First of all I didn’t take joy in Camilla’s chronic pain.
        But remember, there’s such a thing called chronic emotional pain.
        I knew someone who used to say “pain is pain.” I thought he was wrong. I used to say; “no, that person’s pain is worse than this person’s pain.” (comparing various degrees of adversity) The response from him (again) was “pain is pain.” And he’s correct.

      • wolfie says:

        Ultimately, empathy may be even more powerful than anger, and engaging it allows us to nurture and encourage one of the greatest and often untapped resource of our planet; our unlimited human potential.

      • Citresse says:

        In closing (on this particular thread), chronic emotional pain can (as most people are aware) cause various relentless physical ailments. Also, I would like to add: certain sources are not confirming Osteoporosis. Insiders without total access aren’t exactly sure what’s going on with Camilla’s health.

      • Citresse says:

        And no one especially FLORC will pour water on my torch or on any other of my possessions. This is an open forum for anyone willing to follow the rules and don’t forget it.

  18. Fluff says:

    It’s pretty awful to be out-worked by someone nearly in their 70s with chronic health issues.

  19. Fluff says:

    I’m curious that CB links to that twitter account, and the tweeter is going on about how Kate is “an intelligent and articulate woman struggling to break out of the confines of the media-Palace relationship.”

    • anne_000 says:

      @ Fluff

      Yeah, I found that odd too, especially with that particular tweet. Richard must not be much of a judge of character.

      • FLORC says:

        He’s plenty fine. As a side story I’ve discovered my local University (an Ivy League) has taken campus rape claims more seriously and has stocked their med building with those luxurious post kit baskets to help the students in truly terrible situations. They directly credit Cam and her heavy involvement in this worthy cause. That’s how they heard of it.

        On top this woman stayed during very real death threats and direct physical harm when people saw her. She stayed and carried on her duties of the role. That both women did the same thing in marriages and tht both women buried the hatchet post WoWales dust settling says MUCH!
        If she swaned about in jewels and didn’t work I’d be there with you, but she works hard and put up with more than many. On top of her family also getting death threats. Whole family. All ages. Because keeping this hatred alive is not a reflection of her, but those who still do.

    • Jib says:

      Yeah, I saw that too!! I laughed and asked him, “How would you know after that terrible speech where she kept throwing her head like a horse with blinders on. She did everything but whinny.”

      Intelligent and articulate. Yeah, right.

  20. Laura says:

    I like Camilla. Yes, she has made an awful mistake when she carried on the affair with Charles when he was married to Diana, but she has since proven herself to be hard working and truly empathetic to those assisted by the charities she supports.

    Catherine, on the other hand, has proven herself to be nothing more than a pretty face with nice clothes.

    • Olenna says:

      I agree with you about both women. With Camilla, I’m happily surprised with her public service record in recent years. With Katie, I’m not at all impressed and, like others here, am really tired of apologists saying she has years ahead to prepare for her role as POW and Queen Consort. None of us know how long we have here on earth, so to say she has plenty of time to prove herself worthy of those titles is like fortune telling. BTW, I’m feeling the press is getting tired of her (and PW’s) excuses, too. Unless KP demands a retraction, DM is running an article today on her favorite pastime, shopping, but she’s looking a little worse for wear.

      • Citresse says:

        OK. Kate “likely” has time to grow, mature or “get her butt in gear.”
        Diana was and is a hard act to follow.

  21. spidey says:

    Growing old isn’t fun but it is better than the alternative!