Jessica Chastain: Women have been ‘programmed to be grateful’ to get work

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Jessica Chastain has a new profile in the current issue of Haute Living. It’s one of those weird interviews that actors do on behalf of their advertising contracts. Chastain was recently named the international spokesperson for Piaget, so some of this piece is about jewelry and watches and her style and most of that stuff is boring. But the piece gets more interesting when Chastain starts talking about feminism, women supporting women, and whether she’s ever beefed with Jennifer Lawrence. You can read the full piece here.

Working on The Zookeeper’s Wife: “It was the first time I had been on set with so many women… If you’re one of the only women on a set—if it’s you and a bunch of men—you feel like your value doesn’t come from your thoughts and your talent and what you say: your value comes from how you look and how you’re perceived by the men around you….I’m not saying that you should have a film set where it’s predominantly women, I’m just saying when you have more women and you have more balance in a situation, it’s going to be a healthier experience.”

Representation in film & the changes to come: “The more that people communicate about the problems that we have, the better it’s going to be. That’s how change happens; you can feel it percolating. You look at the Best Picture nominees from last year, and there was not one that had a female protagonist. That is so upsetting to me, because that means that every picture that they deemed worthy of a nomination was from a male point of view. This year, there are four of the seven that have female protagonists. I do think that the industry itself wants to change— we want diversity—and I think it had just gotten stagnant. I think the more that we shake it up, it will make a difference. I’m starting to see it.”

On Jennifer Lawrence’s op-ed: “It was incredible. I loved her op-ed…and I was really disappointed after she wrote it that she got criticism. Sometimes people have that attitude where, ‘You’re an actress making a lot of money, how dare you complain?’ We’ve kind of been programmed to be grateful that we’ve gotten this job, so don’t rock the boat. I don’t think that’s fair. Jennifer Lawrence coming out and saying that was really important.”

She never beefed with J-Law: “There has been a stigma out there that women don’t work well together. I’ve never seen women like this. I remember growing up hearing this myth, that women fight when they’re together and it’s completely inaccurate. I’ve never seen it. I know also during Oscar season [2012-2013] media, because they were trying to get headlines and get clicks, were trying to fabricate a fake rivalry between Jennifer Lawrence and myself and I immediately came out and said this is a media myth that has to stop. The women I know are not like this and I cheer for women to succeed because I know when an actress succeeds that means there’s going to be that many more roles for women because an audience is going to demand it.”

[From Haute Living]

Just FYI: since it’s my job, I actually pay attention to Oscar beefs and rumors about beefing actors, and I never heard anything about Jessica Chastain having a beef with Jennifer Lawrence. Like, Chastain went to the Oscars that year knowing that she wasn’t going to win. Now, I do remember that there some rumors of some tears and maybe some beef the year before, when Chastain was nominated for The Help and she lost to costar Octavia Spencer. Do I think Chastain had a genuine beef with Octavia? No. But I do think Chastain was disappointed that she didn’t win that year, and that’s fine. She can be disappointed and still be a feminist and want other women to succeed.

Also, I really do think J-Law’s essay was a major touchstone for women in the industry. I’ve been enjoying the fact that the essay has given other actresses an opening to talk about all of this stuff, and I think the fact that J-Law got pushback means that it really was a big deal to a lot of people, and a lot of the men in the studios.

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  1. Alex says:

    I actually remember Jessica coming out and saying there was zero feud. Same as Brie saying that she got along well with Jen this year. Same thing with Jen having to say she voted for Lupita in 2014. But again that’s partly about JLaw and partly about her being a woman. No two women can succeed at the same time. And the IT girl can only last so long. It’s terrible.

    Jessica comes across great and I’m really excited about her new company. Should do a lot for female filmmakers (I hope)

  2. Jayna says:

    delete. Duplicate.

  3. Jayna says:

    That’s why a really loved Reese Whitherspoon’s Wild. She was the lead and carried most of the movie. She played a tough, complicated woman. It was refreshing to see a lead role like that for a woman.

  4. Carol says:

    That interview was great. And by the way, I think what she says about women not feuding can be applied in other fields too. I always feel more comfortable working with women because most of them really understand the meaning of teamwork and helping each other succeed. At least most of the women I’ve worked with are like that.

    • Lisa says:

      You know, I’ve worked with women who fought all the time and backstabbed each other. I worked with women who haven’t done that. I worked with men who fought all the time and backstabbed each other and I’ve worked with men who haven’t. People are people. She was in a professional rivalry with J-Law though and I don’t see the harm in them being a little competitive with each other. You don’t think Leo and Matt were taking digs at each other during awards season this year? Especially when Matt said you know there’s another way to do it, Leo. We seem to accept that men can be rivals but with women, it’s always a catfight.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I agree and disagree with what you said. Like Lisa, I’ve worked with some women who were backstabbing and competitive and some who were wonderful, so I can’t put it down to just women or men. But I do think that when a group of people is divided unevenly and contains mostly men, there’s a different dynamic. Maybe it’s just me and how I relate to men, but I feel like I have to fight harder to be heard.

      • Dee Kay says:

        It’s not about whether women are or aren’t a certain way. It’s that there are all kinds of women workers in every field, but many people’s perception of women — the stereotypes they hold, and that the press propagates — is that women are definitively either one thing or another thing (either “popular” or “jealous,” basically — either the IT girl or the bitter, angry loser). Like posters above wrote, you’ll find great men to work with and horrible men to work with, and men are just men, and none of them has to always stand for all the others. But with women in the public eye, they’re mostly reduced to some extreme stereotype, and made to fit some kind of script (“feuding,” “rivals,” whatever) by the press. Women aren’t just allowed to be women, to be different, to have their own perspectives and voices and opinions and working styles.

  5. Div says:

    Jessica always comes off on point and is a great actress. Kind of interesting that she mentioned that JenLaw received criticism because she was an actress and making a lot of money, because I just read an Amy Adams profile where she was asked about equal pay and she said something along the lines of how she loves Emma Watson because she’s talking about all women and not just actors making money. JLaw even acknowledges her privilege but it seems like a lot of people ignore that….although maybe Amy just forgot about her essay or has some sort of weird thing about JLaw since she’s bffs with David O. Russell who was verbally abusive to her.

    • Grace says:

      Amy Adams lauded JLaw and her essay on ET and on GQ. She also said that she will read the essay to her daughter

      • Div says:

        Good to hear..it kind of bugs me when people write off JLaw’s speech just because she’s an actress. Pay inequality is an issue for everyone, even highly paid individuals.

  6. Lorelei says:

    I really really like this woman and I think she is on point on the issues she addresses in her interviews, but my shallow inner teen came out kicking and screaming when I looked at the first photo. She is a gorgeous, fit woman, WHYYYY???? is she wearing a dress that fits so poor and makes her looks as if she has 3 bellies?????? WHY?!?!?!?

    • Snazzy says:

      ha ha yes me too! The top of that dress is horrid!
      A beautiful colour and a beautiful and talented woman … bad bad choice
      Ok shallow inner teen done now 🙂

    • Lirko says:

      It is some rather unfortunate tailoring…cause I know that woman does not have 3 belly rolls,and the top of the dress isn’t giving her girls much support. However, she is a truly stunning woman.

  7. missmerry says:

    I can’t believe the top of this dress…it’s so sloppy for such a high-profile person.
    I know you’re supposed to trust your stylists, but come on…

  8. Maya says:

    I think there are a few women out there who are doing female centred and strong lead movies – Angelina Jolie, Reese Witherspoon, Sandra Bullock, Helen Mirren, Mila Jovovich, , Scarlet Jo, Hilary Swank are just the few who play badass strong women.

    I am glad Jessica talks about and the fact that no movies with female lead was nominated for Best Picture.

  9. lila fowler says:

    Her style is awful. Needs a new stylist. That blue dress with that necklace, lol.

  10. INeedANap says:

    HONK for Jessica Chastain!

    She is super talented and intelligent. I love watching her on film and she is one of the few celebrities whose interviews I read. She’s right, change only happens when we keep talking and pushing.

    Separately, and I realize this is a bit ironic considering the subject matter, but Chastain does not get enough credit for being hot as heck. Seriously, that is an amazing rack. I’m a straight leady but she’s a total fence jumper for me.

    • Riley J. says:

      Wait, amazing rack? There’s almost nothing there.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Great breasts do not automatically translate to big breasts in some people’s eyes.

      • Morgan says:

        Thank you for this – perfect response.

      • INeedANap says:

        This is a really bad picture. Check out some of her other fashions. No they’re not huge, but they’re so well shaped. Mine are sort of conical so I notice when other breasts are well shaped.

  11. Tiffany says:

    Jessica and Octavia became close after filming. There were rumors of a beef?

    • ichsi says:

      That’s what I thought. She seems to get along great with her, and with Viola Davis too. Anyway, I love Jessica. She’s an amazing actress and a smart and very likable person too. Go her!

  12. Allie May says:

    I think Jessica has a good point. I do believe women are trained to be thankful to work.

    It would definitely be nice to see more female oriented movies like Wild with Reese Witherspoon. And quite honestly, I wish Hollywood would make diverse casting more of a priority. This is one of the reasons I enjoyed the Twilight series, we were able to see native Americans in an American made film.

    Other than that, workplace bullying is alive and well, and it occurs between women all the time and should not be glossed over. The dental field is the worst for women not getting along and is ripe for actual harassment between women. I have worked in the dental field for 20 years, and it is not getting any better. Women claiming they have never seen other women not getting along will not help in acknowledging abuse on the job and stopping it. Or perhaps the dental field is different than other types of work.

  13. Christina says:

    Yet again, celebitchy gets something wrong. Yes there were rumors that Jlaw and Jessica were feuding. She even addressed on the Oscar red carpet. It started after the snl skit Jlaw starred in where she sorta mocked the other nominees.
    Plus Jlaw and Jessica had been splitting the votes so there was a good possibility that Jessica could pull an upset

  14. CornyBlue says:

    Ok. So. It makes me so mad that we build up Oscars as the pinnacle of achievement in the entertainment industry and then get mad when a nominee who loses out is jealous or sad that she or he did not win. Even if Jessica was sad that Jlaw won or jealous of her.. so ?

  15. I Choose Me says:

    I like her and I like what she has to say here. I haven’t seen many of her movies other than Zero Dark Thirty, The Help and Mama but she seems to have range and I love that she’s been consistently championing this issue since her come up.

  16. Susan says:

    She, to me, exemplifies what I would want to be if I were a famous actor….
    Sincere, intelligent, thoughtful and yet at the same time a little unknown. No farmers market pap strolls, low key relationship status, no Twitter beefs or selfies. Class!

  17. Oodles says:

    Total gratuitous comment coming up: Jessica, you’re a stunning, smart woman and so, so gorgeous. And you’re right about this settling thing.