Here are some photos of Khloe Kardashian out with her mom and her mom’s boyfriend on Wednesday. Controversial opinion: I cannot stand white jeans. I get that white jeans with a white t-shirt is a clean, beachy look and I can appreciate that. But to me, buying a pair of white jeans would be like literally tossing money out the window. Of course you’re going to spill tomato sauce or chocolate on your white jeans the first day you wear them. Or maybe your dog will choose that day to barf on you, or maybe your period will surprise you a few days early. I’m just saying… white jeans are an invitation for bad-stain mojo. Plus, these particular jeans (that Khloe is wearing) look uncomfortable.
Meanwhile, I just read this recent interview Khloe did with The Cut, and I found it interesting for some reason. Khloe sat down with The Cut to discuss her latest contract, in which she’s promoting the injectable Kybella, “which reduces under-chin fat.” The sh-t? Some highlights:
How does she function with crazy-long nails? “Oh, my God, you sound like Kim! She’s always like, “I feel so unclean.” How do you function with shorter nails? They give me life, they give me everything…Kourtney always says, “That’s how hoes type.” I’m always like [taps her phone], “Yep, that’s how hoes type, okay?”
Whether she’ll be endorsing a presidential candidate: “I don’t like saying that stuff because you get criticism no matter what. Kim is very open, but that’s just Kim. It’s probably the one thing I have opened my mouth about before and I’m just like, Why the f–k do I care to be in a fight with these other people, yelling at me about Republicans or Democrats? With politics I’ve learned to keep my opinions to myself, for once in my life. It’s not that I would never talk about it, but it’s that nobody cares about what I have to say about that. It’s not going to sway anybody in any direction, and if so, they’re probably young kids that should do their own research about who they want to vote for. I think voting is a very personal choice, just like religion. I get so annoyed when people say, “I want to vote for Hillary because she’s a woman.” Well, that’s sad. So you’re voting for Hillary just because she’s a woman. There are a million other reasons why, but I want someone to give me something with more substance, rather than just a gender or race. That’s what really infuriates me. Know what they stand behind.
Spray tan advice for Donald Trump: “I love a good spray tan. I believe in doing a scrub before to get everything off first. But also spray tanning, as great as it is, I kind of kick and scream doing it because I’m like, “God, now I smell for the whole night.” It’s a process. After your spray tan, a trick someone taught me is to put baby powder wherever you crease. Like I have a crease on my neck. I’ll put baby powder under my arms and it makes you not get those weird lines. When you sleep sometimes you sweat, but baby powder … this is a silly little tip, but there you go.
Shock of all shocks, I actually think what she has to say about the presidential race is right on, and it’s good advice for most celebrities, especially if those celebrities are active on social media. No one needs to see a celebrity getting into stupid political beefs on a daily basis. I also agree with the idea that it’s “sad” that some women will just vote for Hillary Clinton because she’s a woman, although… I have been thinking about it a lot, and just flat, base-line representation is important too. Like, even though I can’t stand Sarah Palin, I liked the simple fact that I got to see the Republican party nominate a woman for VP. And I’m proud that I get to see a woman candidate get the Democratic presidential nomination too. Also, this happened in Khloe’s interview:
The Cut: To change gears a little bit, we just had Super Tuesday …
Khloe: What’s that?The primary elections …
Okay, got it. [Khloe’s publicist: I thought that was a sale!] Right that’s what I thought! I was like, where are you going with this?
She literally didn’t know what Super Tuesday was! Just check in on CNN every now and then, Khloe.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
I don’t think it’s smart to vote for anyone based on gender alone.
But seriously. Super Tuesday a sale?? 😂😂😂😂
Oh khlo.
People are doing it though, those so called “feminists”. Finally she said something smart, we just need a good president it doesn’t matter who they are, it matters what they do.
Yup, and I support Hillary because I think she’s the best PERSON for the job.
The irony of a feminist voting on gender alone is just too much.
Gloria Steinem and Madeline Albright! Those two did it! I am still seriously *#$&@& off that that happened. And now a Kardashian has more sense than that??? WHAT.
If people aren’t particularly fond of any of the candidates but decide to vote for Hillary because she’s a woman, I’m completely fine with that reasoning TBH. It’s not any better/worse reasoning than voting for the president whom you’d “most like to have a beer with” (Bush) or the presidential candidate who “tells it like it is” (Trump). Come to think of it, voting for a candidate based on gender is actually a more thoughtful approach compared to the other examples I listed.
@ Kitten: You’re always the voice of reason on these threads.
@diana that’s not the voice of reason both actions are wrong and two wrongs won’t make anything right, and that’s why are country is the way it is, because we try to justify ones mistake with another.
@Kitten
Yep, there will always be low information voters. It’s not a smart tactic but I get it, I also think it’s not just ‘a’ woman but a woman we’ve seen hold her own pretty formidably in an aggressive male dominated arena. Half the things she’s still attacked with shock me.
@oli- Out of all the stupid reasons people vote for a candidate, you think voting based on gender is on par with voting for a guy because he “tells it like it is”? How does “telling like it is” demonstrate any level of political capability? How does that exemplify political policy or qualify someone to be a president at all, really?
I guess you’re saying those people shouldn’t vote at all.
But the thing is they have every right to exercise their right to vote and to me, if they’re voting for the first time because they want to see a woman in office, I’m ok with that. It’s not the way I approach voting but I’m ok with it.
@kitten I’m saying none of the reasons stated above are a good reason to vote. Both are wrong and will further the madness that is happening now.
Both are stupid and idiotic choices it doesnt matter which one seems “more right” because it isn’t.
@Kitten. Liking someone for being able to “have a beer” with that person or “talking straight” are judgments based on character. Being a woman is not a reflection of character but of anatomy. I think someone “telling it like it is” suggests a personality of strength, which is appealing to voters when looking for a leader. Unfortunately, Trump is not a strong person who does not “tell it like it is,” but that’s another rant for another thread.
@ vilebody- ok but why are we making a character judgment about a potential presidential candidate at all? Besides the obvious reality that these politicians aren’t exactly known to keep their promises and that they have a literal team of people advising them on their public image, how does a “good guy to have a beer with” fit into a presidential candidate’s resume? I mean, we’re essentially hiring this person to do a job, is it more important that they’re a friendly guy or that they’ll actually be effective as president?
My point was that it’s not any more/less superficial than voting based on gender.
@Oli- yes of course it would be amazing if people did their homework and based their vote on policy, but let’s be realistic and acknowledge that’s not how most Americans vote. I still say that out of all the dumb reasons to vote for a candidate, voting based on gender is the least offensive. At least people are using their vote to push for equality.
I don’t think ‘just gender’ will be the only reason why people will vote for Hillary though. What will happen is people will be like “She’s a woman PLUS she’s on this side politically, so I’ll vote for her. ” To me it’s not a bad thing that there will be people who vote like that or that people want to have a woman president. People just shouldn’t play the “Vote for Hillary or you’re a sexist/not a real feminist!” card. I’ll just be grateful if we don’t end up with some disaster in office this time around.
@otaku fairy she is a disaster they all are. I don’t no why people keep trying to justify her when Hillary’s equally as bad as the rest of them, not in the same way of course but they are all equally terrible. And picking her because she is a woman is wrong just like it was when people picked Obama because he’s African American.
@kitten it doesn’t matter if it makes history. F-ck that sh-t, we don’t need a historical moment we need a good president. So what, yes women are not represented fairly, but honestly do any of you think anything is really going to change? People protested racism and look where we are now, we have a black/all lives matter, cops (not all) shooting minority’s, minority’s getting beat up at political rallies. You know why because NOTHINGS CHANGED!!!!!!!
This discussion over equal opportunity is great, but need I say the least a waste of time. The only way things are going to change is if we wipe out almost half if not all of the population.
I agree with Kitten, but the fact is that liberals/progressives are pretty much held captive by the Democratic party in national elections because look at the alternative. I feel pressured to vote for Hillary because she’s the establishment candidate and we can’t risk losing. I wish I could vote for her because she’s a woman rather than because she’s the least progressive (read: more mainstream). I feel like the gender issue is irrelevant at this point since Bernie is the fringe candidate.
Oli
You keep saying how people are wrong for choosing Hilary because she is a woman and how all the candidates are terrible, so I suppose the questions becomes: Who according to you should people vote for or should they simply not choose anyone? Because simply saying ‘they’re all terrible and nothing will change’ seems to be a very poor way of approaching voting.
Also this:
“People protested racism and look where we are now, we have a black/all lives matter, cops (not all) shooting minority’s, minority’s getting beat up at political rallies. You know why because NOTHINGS CHANGED!!!!!!!”
Displays a stunning lack of awareness. Can you actually say you’re incapable of being aware of how much has changed and how oblivious it makes you seem to state otherwise? A little more than 50 years ago it was completely possible to see a man lynched for nothing more than the color of his skin and not be shocked when he wasn’t brought to justice at all? Come on.
@the eternal side eye no sh- t Sherlock, but that’s not the point I’m making. I have trouble with articulating my factual opinions, and I don’t mean to come off rude (this stuff really gets to me, because I know what i am talking about and really care about this stuff but have a hard to explaining it correctly) but I think it’s ridiculous that we expect less from a president even with the way the system is step up, and that people are being stupid about this whole situation in fact about everything.
Even with the changes of not having slavery anymore, it’s not like we have made an improvement if people still want to hurt minority’s. Yeah we don’t have slavery anymore and people aren’t being lynched for no reason, but if you turn on the f-ing news you’d see people are getting shot for no reason, which isn’t any better, so African Americans get to go to school with everyone, great, but what’s the point if it’s not a safe learning environment and all you hear is n-gger and f-ggot.
We might have “changed” as you say, but I don’t think we should be patting ourselves on the back until discrimination is over. It’s not really a change or progress for that matter if it’s still a major issue.
@the eternal side eye I also don’t know who should be president but it definitely shouldn’t be the people running right now.
My point I was trying to make earlier is that even with all the “changes” we are still in a bad place and I think it’s worse because now we are fully aware of what we are doing and how it hurts people maybe 50 years ago we didn’t know (lame excuse, this crap should have never happened in the first place) but now we do. We are in a new time and to me it stills feels like we are repeating history.
There is still issues with innocent people being hurt today like there was 50 years ago (not in the same way of course but that doesn’t make it any better) which is why I mentioned black lives matter, because clearly to have that organization now, after 50 years of this craziness “ending” African Americans and many other minority groups do not feel safe. Time might have changed but you can’t really say we have.
@Oli
“Even with the changes of not having slavery anymore, it’s not like we have made an improvement if people still want to hurt minority’s.”
That is an improvement. What you’re looking for is instant perfection which isn’t realistic. Go back 20 years and many people would publicly hold racist views towards blacks, 50 and many would support segregation, 100 and many would support lynching, 100 more and slavery. To go from a society that supports slavery to one that has a black president is a HUGE improvement.
“Yeah we don’t have slavery anymore and people aren’t being lynched for no reason, but if you turn on the f-ing news you’d see people are getting shot for no reason, which isn’t any better, so African Americans get to go to school with everyone, great, but what’s the point if it’s not a safe learning environment and all you hear is n-gger and f-ggot.”
All black people are not poor nor do they all go to a poor schools. People don’t understand the unique qualities that come up when race and economy intersect. The fact that these social issues are coming to such a fervent head is a good thing, even MLK had to organize a formal group and contact Presidents to get his voice heard and message delivered. These days people can organize on their own and children as young as high school are capable of forcing school administrations to see to their concerns with protests. Bureaucracy is having a cold light shined on it and those in govt. are forced to explain themselves.
“My point I was trying to make earlier is that even with all the “changes” we are still in a bad place and I think it’s worse because now we are fully aware of what we are doing and how it hurts people maybe 50 years ago we didn’t know (lame excuse, this crap should have never happened in the first place) but now we do. We are in a new time and to me it stills feels like we are repeating history.”
It’s a good sentiment but it lacks addressing the complexities of why things are the way they are. In a perfect world things would be better but that doesn’t exist anywhere on the planet. The US has unique issues because of its forming as a new nation, the divisions between the North and South, the Dixiecrats and the switching of the two parties, the Republican parties embracing of ‘family values’ while also courting big business and etc. All of that has had an effect on people and effected generations. The information is out there but I think many don’t choose to inform themselves and many don’t realize what cycles theyre stuck in. I also think you constantly see people slowly breaking through those cycles and choosing to be informed and helpful.
“There is still issues with innocent people being hurt today like there was 50 years ago (not in the same way of course but that doesn’t make it any better) which is why I mentioned black lives matter, because clearly to have that organization now, after 50 years of this craziness “ending” African Americans and many other minority groups do not feel safe.”
The problem isn’t with the craziness ‘ending’ it’s in addressing all the issues we could not address at the time, which again is another huge sign of improvement. Take this out of theory and think of it realistically. You had a society that had just started to stop viewing blacks as animals and didn’t mind them being around but wanted them segregated. Through sheer convincing and passionate determination we slowly changed that, but that claimed lives, it made scars, it was a devastating amazing change. We could not also bring up those problems that were less obvious and more subtle and insidious. The idea of ’40 acres and a mule’ has been an idea brought up in various ways throughout history. Reparations and addressing not simply the physical issues effecting us but also the mental and spiritual struggles was not a huge priority in the past. Now is sort of the first time we are having a voice and being able to speak on these issues. Of course that’s going to come with stumbling blocks but it’s also a huge improvement. You can’t change what you don’t see.
“Time might have changed but you can’t really say we have.”
Talk to an elderly black person, say 65 or older and you’d have quite the disagreement from them, lol. A LOT has changed and little by little, as frustrating as that is, we are getting better.
@the eternal side eye I guess we’re going to have to agree to disagree. I don’t know how to explain myself so you can understand.
Also I was never talking about economy and school I was just talking about school referring to the one I went to and it was a top school but yet you’d still hear such things. It didn’t have to do with money that wasn’t what I was talking about. I don’t think “statistics” support racial economic issues, or not in the way they sometimes claim.
I know there isn’t slavery and stuff like that any more and that is a change, plus having an African American president, but I think that was pointless to bring up because he was only voted for because he was African American, and also because he’s African American many racist have come out to show their hatred for the person who is trying to help them, which means we still have a major issue. They say horrible stuff about him/family and most of it if not all is related to his race.
I just trying to say that I know we are not in a perfect world and that just like every other country we have issues to. But we should be acknowledging them. Even with all of this, racism (and many other issues) is very prominent right now, and I think it’s worse then before because we stopped slavery and all of that, but still hear we are with racist, homophobic, sexist, ageist people. I know an immediate change isn’t going to happen, yes it takes time, but I’m tired of that being an excuse, I don’t know why we let people suffer over things they can not control or shouldn’t have to control for that matter. Im being hard with everyone because this is unnecessary and it continues for no reason even with “changes”.
I don’t believe we should be proud of where we are even though the “horrible” stuff (slavery etc.) is over. We are still dealing with serious issues and many innocent lives are being lost just like 50-100 years ago. I’m annoyed honestly, because we absolutely know what’s going on and that infuriates me because we got rid of the “horrible” stuff already, but we still have people being hurt, I expect more because all of the “horrible” stuff essentially ended.
I apologize I don’t know how to explain myself I really want you to understand, I understand what your saying but I feel limited in my words and maybe even knowledge. I don’t how to stress to you how wrong it looks to me that after abolishing this 50 years ago it’s still prominent in our country. It not only is wrong but looks wrong. I think 50 years is enough time for us to get are sh-t together, even though time is not an acceptable excuse to me.
@ eternal side eye also I think even though it isn’t realistic to expect an immediate change, we shouldn’t be having one this slow either, it looks as if we are going back in time in the wrong direction, I feel like with the way things are going right now even though slavery is abolished we might end up seeing it in our future (this is the point I’m making that it looks like we are going back to our old ways).
This was an essay topic once, asking if you think history repeats it’s self and the lack of improvement with all the time we have had to make a real change makes me think it does.
“because he was only voted for because he was African American”
I know you don’t mean it that way but you do know by saying that you’re removing all the agency of both Obama and those who voted for him? You’re saying that he as an individual doesn’t matter and that he could be replaced by any fool with the same skin tone. Furthermore that those who voted for him did so without any intelligence. It’s rather insulting, not to mention untrue. Countless AA’s and women have run before and after Hilary and Obama and not garnered any of the same support. Individuals and ideas do matter.
“But we should be acknowledging them.”
But we do acknowledge them and have since time began. The struggle over becoming equal has simply changed from the different targets being hit but the issue was never quiet. Id be curious to hear what you think should happen or if it should all simply immediately change?
“I expect more because all of the “horrible” stuff essentially ended”
Don’t apologize, I appreciate the discussion and appreciate what you’re trying to express to me. I’m mostly trying to sort of make you understand why change can’t be immediate but also why we’ve made huge strides that say we have a lot to be proud of. We’re not done and we can’t ignore the bad, but it’s also worth acknowledging the good. Purely from a black perspective pride and confidence is what even gave the slaves the strength to fight, comparing those circumstances to what we have today is like comparing a fight to a bloody war. I can’t help but feel confident and happy because of how far we’ve come.
“we shouldn’t be having one this slow either, it looks as if we are going back in time in the wrong direction”
Nah. It’s easy to get bogged down with the negative but we are absolutely not going backwards. There’s not really enough space to properly write about how hard life was back then just as a normal daily struggle. We’re talking about women casually being raped with people walking last unbothered (as opposed to convicting a white officer for doing that now and calling him heinous), a glance at a white woman could result in a beating (whereas now interracial relationships are steadily growing), and an unattended slave could be killed on the spot and the difference was merely paying off the equivalent of the cost of that slave. History doesn’t repeat itself so much as it goes in cycles with massive changes.
@the eternal side eye I’m interracial my mom is European-ish and my dad is African American.
I get what you’re saying but it’s just weird that this is taking sooooo long. And I didn’t mean Obama was only picked because he’s African American but I do think his skin tone did play a major role in him being elected just like how some women will be voting for Hillary because she’s of the same gender as them.
I made that comment because I know a lot of people did vote for him for his race (and politics) but his race seemed to be the main thing that I think got him the election. I don’t really know how to feel about Obama because I don’t think he’s a great president however it’s a tough job and it’s not for everybody and neither have the people before him have done a good job, but I do think he is charming and I also don’t think all of the stuff that happened while he was in office was his fault. I also think that out of everybody his heart was in the right place even for the people who don’t like him which is more than you can say about the everybody else in the government. I do still think though even with his good intentions that he mostly won because of his race, just like people see it as a “historical moment” for Hillary to be the first female president, people wanted to see him as the first African American president.
Also I do recognize change can’t be immediate but as you’ve said we’ve made huge strides, which is why I wish it was immediate because its taken so long and I just don’t get how if we make huge strides why we can’t just go and not have this as a problem anymore. I don’t get how we can come so far but still have so far to go.
I wish that we knew more about the mind and it’s complexities to figure out why we focus on such ridiculous things. I mean I bet if we did live in a perfect world no discrimination no nothing, we might have perfected space travel or have explored more of the ocean. I feel like racism, sexism, homophobia, and all inequality is holding us back from accomplishing the most amazing things, I also hate when we call this country the best and say it’s the greatest yet we still have such insane issues like caring about a color or a number or body parts. I think it makes us look stupid and hypocritical. And this is another part of the point I was trying to make we say we are the greatest and we’ve come so far but it doesn’t feel like it, it’s like to me that we keep dealing with these issues that it is never ending and then on top of that you’ve have all this nationalism, for a country that is just alright simply not the greatest. However i dont think any country can claim greatness because most if not all have blood on their hands.
I get what you’re saying good things have come out of the injustice that has been had and we are in a “much better” place but it still does not feel like enough.
Oh yeah and about what she be done if something should happen immediately, honestly I don’t know what I would do, but I know this shouldn’t happen. I said in this thread earlier, if we want a real change we would have to get rid of most of the population, I know this isn’t in option but I think about it from time to time. I don’t know what to do I’m not MLK or Einstein, I wouldn’t be able to solve this problem, but it’s like you know when you see an issue you’re not directly involved in, so it makes it easier to see what’s wrong. That’s me, I think I know, what should happen I think everyone on the planets does even the people who discriminate, but I don’t really have an answer for you I just want peace. And I do think it should happen immediately but if it did I don’t know what consequences would come from it, so…… Yeah. Sorry about my rudeness earlier I know you know what your talking about it’s a shame how even when some people agree they are still divided or how no one can agree on anything.
@Oli
I think time will reveal how much Obama had to work with and what kind President he was.
I 100% agree if we wasted less time on all of this we would be way more advanced as a society…but there’s money to be made from people’s ignorance. There are a lot of millionaires in this world who are rich because they’ve convinced people they’re on their side.
I think the issue of the complexity of humans is how much of racism is instinctive and an evolutionary response. Remove skin color and humans judge others by class, remove class and they divide each other by region. I think racism is found on every single part of this planet save for entirely monolithic cultures, but that isn’t to say we shouldn’t try to fight against and rise above it.
Also, it’s cool your hearts in the right place.
And I have to say, I’m a long nail woman myself and I think the trick to “functioning” is that when they grow to that length, you get used to it gradually. I think those that have short and go in for fake nails walk out and the stark contrast is obviously hard to deal with. And they have to suddenly adjust how to do buttons, open stuff, etc.
@the eternal side-eye. I enjoy reading your comments to @oli. You have the patience of Jobe. I don’t believe you will get through to her because she has no idea of how bad things used to be and the gains we have achieved. I don’t believe she know what it was like for a kid who had to pick cotton before going to school to help the father with making his quota for the day, just one example. We have come a long was and have a long way to go but there have been progress. I never believed in my lifetime I would see a black president. We the older folks fough hard and long to see such a great day when BO became president, oh what a beautiful day that was and the pride we felt. Again, I enjoyed your comments, keep it up.
@bna fn I get what the eternal side eye is saying I’ve already acknowledge that, and no I don’t know what it’s like to pick cotton but I imagine it was awful, excuse me for expecting more because America has had several opportunities to make the right decision and they haven’t for the most part. I expect an immediate change because I’m tired of seeing people suffer and because everybody has said all throughout this thread that it takes time, but that’s not a reasonable excuse to me time didn’t do anything we did or excuse me we didn’t because this is still an issue.
I want everybody to have the opportunity they deserve, I know that will take forever, but what I don’t think people realize is it doesn’t need to. I know it won’t happen over night of course, but I feel like it could (even though I’m probably wrong).
I feel like it’s taking so long because a lot of people don’t want to make that change happen, like they’re waiting it out till the very end just so they can see what comes out of it. It feels like this is being extended I don’t know how to really say it, but I do know that abolishing slavery didn’t have to take that long, in the end a paper needed to be freakin signed and an announcement needed to be made by the president (I know it doesn’t just happen like that, but that’s what needed to be done which could have happened immediately or sooner than it did for that matter).
I apologize, I’m seriously trying to articulate myself and it ms hard for me especially on an iPod where it’s hard to type and I have to keep pressing backspace, it isn’t easy. I even have trouble with speaking on such matters like this because I get riled up and start to stutter my brain will go zero to sixty and I’ll leave out things or it’ll come out wrong. I’m sorry I cannot speak on what you went through because I was not there but I know it wasn’t easy for anybody during that time and I feel bad for them, which is why I want and think things can happen faster than they are now.
You have to understand there’s two point of views here, yours and mine. I haven’t seen what you’ve seen and from what I understand it seems like you’ve seen horrific stuff or at least now a lot about the horrific stuff. So what is going on seems mild to you. But from my point of view being born when I was and seeing what I see now this is scary what seems tame to you seems horrific to me, and that’s why I care so much. Because this, what is happening now, is still scary.
@BNA FN, agreed. Oli, there is no justification for your claim that “Hillary’s equally as bad as the rest of them, not in the same way of course but they are all equally terrible.”
No, they are not. Trump, Cruz and Kasich are much more dangerous than Hillary and Bernie. The Republicans want to force women to bear unwanted children. They lack all understanding of other countries. They will ruin the USA’s economy. They are much, much worse than Hillary.
@BNAfan
Thank you so much, just trying to make him or her better see the degrees. All I can do is try.
@Oli
Your hearts in the right place but the reason it’s not as a simple as, “Change.” is because in the real world cause and effect is produced. People and mentalities don’t change over night, nor do societal structures. Information and experience is passed down from one generation to the next and there is no undo button. Ignore the black experience for a moment and think of Native Americans. As a result of actions taken hundreds of years ago alcoholism and mental illness plague this current generation in huge numbers. Cause and effect. If we flipped a switch today and poured millions into helping different tribes and truly focusing on all their needs we still would not see change for a generation of more. You can’t unring a bell. Furthermore when we talk about societal structures it’s not as basic as, “Everyone stop being racist today.” economies are built on things being a certain way, rules and laws can favor one group without the specific individual being racist. If you don’t get to the root of the issue, which requires a lot of digging and effort, then you can’t possibly hope to correct the problems we have.
“I feel like it’s taking so long because a lot of people don’t want to make that change happen.”
Because they don’t. If you’re viewed as an upper class member of society and everhthing favors you, how many people do you think would willingly give that up? 7 out of 10. 40 out of 100? There’s so many levels of racism and some have nothing to do with hatred towards other races but more so selfishness and fear. If the world changes then you become less safe, less certain of your place in the world. Your own comforts can be eliminated and frankly many don’t want to give those up.
“but I do know that abolishing slavery didn’t have to take that long, in the end a paper needed to be freakin signed and an announcement needed to be made by the president (I know it doesn’t just happen like that, but that’s what needed to be done which could have happened immediately or sooner than it did for that matter).”
But it couldn’t have. Because in the end simply abolishing slavery wasn’t enough and frightened selfish people, some hatefully racist and some not, chose to go to war rather than learn to view another as equal. You can look up how many people died during the Civil War but suffice it to say it was bloody and it nearly tore the country apart. A President’s job is to try and find a way to balance a very divided country, a south still smarting from having the federal govt. force it to make change and a north that was also racist but considerably less violent for blacks. He knew that forcing the issue would result in death and chaos and in the end it caused a war because all other options were exhausted. Saying, “It could have been so simple.” ignores what happened before and after the war. You can’t legislate or force a human heart, sometimes you have to make a stand, sometimes ideology is strong enough to cause brother to go to war with brother and whole families are split down the middle.
You don’t have to keep apologizing. I see where you’re coming from and how you feel, I also want to say the fact you’re thinking of matters like this and trying to find some resolution is what always makes me happy. A mind that chooses to struggle to understand rather than closes up accepting ignorance is always better. You can learn how to express and get your points across better because your passion for things to improve is there.
I think history is the ultimate balm to feeling frightened sometimes. If you’re ever so scared you can pick up a book and see different cultures and know how much the world has changed. It isn’t about what I’ve experienced but that at one point in history millions of Jews were being gassed because a charismatic man played on people’s ignorance and fear. Anything after that can’t scare me. Even Trump with all his connections to Hitler doesn’t scare me. He’s an ugly orange man who is frightened that a criticism sent his way can send him on a tirade for weeks/months/years. I’m probably not much older than you actually, so my suggestion is to try doing what I’ve done my whole life – read. You’ll slowly get to understand the world better and with all your passion be able to turn your concerns to changes in the world.
I am a Sanders fan, and even I don’t think anyone is voting for Hillary just because she’s a woman. She’s also in many ways the most qualified person for the job. The fact that she’s a woman is a plus for some feminists. If it were just because she’s a woman, then feminists would have flocked to support McCain/Palin. They didn’t because they disagreed with Palin’s politics and thought she was unsuitable for the job. To say this about Hillary is an insult and ignores that she’s pro-choice and was a women’s/children’s advocate, etc. No one is saying that it’s sad people are voting for Donald Trump because he’s a reality star, even though his fame is one of the top reasons he has doing as well as he is, given that he’s no experience in government.
She’s only on “your side” because it benefits her, same with all the other people running they only “care” because they know that will get them in office.
What happened when Hilary didn’t want to support gays way back when, now she’s supporting, because SURPRISE she needs their vote.
None of the people running actually care about us, only themselves. Don’t sell yourself a lie, because it looks good. Most of the time it’s to good to be true.
I think in this election people who aren’t informed will be voting for Hilary not because she is a woman but because she isn’t Trump. I think his politics are so offensive to so many people that she has literally become the lesser of two evils.
She is the most qualified to do the job but I’ll be honest she isn’t my first pick but I don’t like any of the canidates really. I mean I love Bernie but I feel like he is looking a bit backwards and not forwards, Hillary is very smart and qualified and but not super honest. And the republicans well there are no words for the fear and horror they bring to me. So I will vote for the democrat that is nominated and cry and mourn the loss of President Obama.
With all that said people should vote on issues and Klhoe is right about not commenting and people forming their own opinions.
Yep. Exit polls showed that she actually lost young female voters to Sanders in most states–in NH Sanders got 82% of the young female vote! I think it’s more that a very brief Hillary tactic (not saying she authorized it or if it was just the work of her supporters) was to shame women into voting for her–see Gloria Steinem and Madeline Albright. Of course, that backfired big time.
Not surprised she is as dopey as the rest. They usually vote conservative because of the money factor. How wonderful voting for a crazy conservative that would stone your entire family in the streets for being heathens if they could. Maybe thats the way to get rid of them for good!
Spot on Oli.
Well, in Khloe’s defense- she could have been joking or just had a temporary disconnect because she wasn’t thinking politics but rather makeup and such. Context is everything in recognizing words and phrases. Happens to me. So she may know the phrase but it just didn’t instantly float up to the conscious layer.
It really does sound like a sale, actually. Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Super Tuesday…
Please..I know it’s hard as they come out with such rubbish but it would be lovely to have a Kardashian free day..week..month..where my blood pressure isn’t raised by these over paid morons …
…year, decade, century.
She is absolutely correct that it is lame to vote for someone simply because of their gender, but it is happening. I can’t even count the amount of people I’ve spoken to who’ve said they’re voting for her because they “want to see what a woman can do” or simply because they think it’s time for a woman to be president. It’s ridiculous.
Reading that Khloe Kardashian does not know what Super Tuesday is is the least shocking thing that I’ve experienced in a long time.
I know right and the people who are trying to act like Hillary is a saint. No, none of the people running this year are.
I am also sick and tired of the election having to be picking the best out of the worst. Last time there was a post on politics, people were telling me “why does Hillary need to be perfect or any of the other presidents for that matter”. Have we really let our country get that bad that we don’t even have high expectations anymore. They don’t have to be perfect, but ffs no skeletons in their closet. There are decent people in the world, so why is it wrong to expect someone good to be my president.
I don’t think its wrong, I just think people are more pragmatic than in days past. The idea of ‘goodness’ doesn’t really jive with my idea of politics. Politics as it is is too complicated and interwoven for true goodness to exist. You have to find a balance of doing the best you can with the crummy resources you’re given for the most good but simply being simple black and white good seems unrealistic.
@THE ETERNAL SIDE-EYE I don’t mean good as in “they adopt their children, eat veggies and are always polite”. I just mean that they need to be good for us, their interest in being president shouldn’t be to benefit themselves but our country for the people, and everybody running is staring in the mirror instead of focusing on what really matters.
I want someone who cares about every human rather than the “human” that is them.
@OLI we have that goodness with our current president and almost no appreciates it.
President Obama accomplished so much and was an incredible president, with nothing but nonstop opposition. In 7 years he found and killed the terrorist who attacked on 9/11, reduced health care costs and got 20 million uninsured insured. Not to mention the unemployment rate is at 5% and we have the strongest economy in the world right now.
Was he perfect no, but imagine what he could have done if the congress and senate had done their jobs.
@K – 92 mil people are not participating in the workforce. That number hasn’t been that low since 1978. Those people are not factored into the unemployment rate. Figure that info into the ACA, with that many people not working how long is the ACA sustainable? Even HRC is starting to point out the high costs and how it is a disaster. We are ranked 3rd behind, China (1) and the EU(2) economy wise. I don’t blame the POTUS for the unemployment or the economy, things were falling apart when he was voted in. He was successful in regards to the raid on Bin Laden’s compound.
@Oli I get what you’re saying, but like Eternal Side Eye, I don’t think our political system is set up so that honest, decent people can make a difference. There is so much corruption, and the people with money (lobbyists and special interests groups) determine what gets done much more than voters. It may be cynical, but my feeling is that if an honest person were to try to make a career in politics, he or she would either get frustrated with the corruption and leave, or try to play ball (i.e., give into the corruption) and become like the status quo of representatives.
@Dom Europe’s Economy is crumbling- as is China. My heaven’s China is in the same state we were in 2008. The US dollar is the strongest currency currently which has hurt US retail and yes there are people that have chosen to not look for work but sorry that is on them, unemployment is at 5% which when you consider where it was in 2008 is incredible.
Again it isn’t perfect but how many times did he send a jobs bill to the floor to get it not voted on? The ACA needs work it isn’t perfect but again it was a start and no one would work with him to make it better.
So to say he failed is bull 20 million people are insured who weren’t. There is still a lot of work to do, but I think to say he wasn’t incredibly successful is a fallacy! He was he got the economy back on track, he got health care reformed, we are safer and he did it with unheard of oppression.
Imagine if the Senate and Congress put America first worked with him these last 7 years what he could have done.
@ K – We are ranked third and 92 MIL people are not participating in the workforce. Those are just facts that. (World Economic Forum & Bureau of Labor Statistics) As for the 20 million insured, I think that number is skewed but not sure. I think I remember reading that number included Medicaid/Chip enrollment and those who signed up for coverage via marketplace but may not have paid. Either way I’m sure millions do have insurance bc of the ACA but millions also lost coverage or are opting to just pay the penalty.
I didn’t say he failed. Yes, he has met with opposition. He is not the first president this has happened too. It’s called politics not “oppression”.
Hillary deserves to be indicted (whether she will be or not remains to be seen) so I really can’t believe she is running. I doubt she will be the Democratic pick because of the problematic investigation that is still being carried out, on her criminal e-mail shenanigans. It surprises me that that and her Benghazi mishandling are being largely ignored.
Crumpet, what is criminal about her email situation? Being indicted is not the same as being convicted, and she hasn’t been either. And what, precisely, did she do wrong with regard to Benghazi? Millions of dollars were spent on having ridiculous hearings that have not turned up any evidence that she did anything wrong.
Tina-
Many say “NO” because it was not marked, etc. The facts are:
1) she would have known what was or should have been classified. By her NDEA and other security practices, she would have been required to identify this information to a security manager to have it appropriately classified and removed from non-secure means. The fact that she did not take these steps is a violation of policy which could be further reviewed for criminal charges
2) The fact that she conducted Official State Department business on a private server is just neglegent at best and likely criminal as well. For the Secretary of State to think that she would not be dealing with sensitive or classified information is just rediculous. This is just simply an unacceptable method to work with any official government business. She would have been trained and signed many forms, including an NDEA, been read-in on secure information access, etc. She would have had no doubt that she would be dealing with classified information. The fact that she thought that it would be acceptable to utilize a personal server instead of the secured servers and systems is a blatant violation. To put this in context: in the military, if you were to plug a thumb drive into a system rated at Secret, you could lose your security clearance and job. Just for plugging in a thumb drive. I watched someone lose their clearance and position for trying to charge their phone on a SIPR computer. You could get in the same trouble if you were to use an approved media (CD-R for example) in a non-classified system after it has been in a classified system. This is just for secret. No transmission of information would be neccesary, nor access to classified information would have needed to have been conducted. If another member of the government were to route their information through a personal account or server that MIGHT contain classified information, they would investigated, and likely prosecuted. Their career would definitely be over. There are many laws regarding the handling and storage of classified material. One of the key aspects of this is that it does not have to be marked if it could reasonably be assumed to be classified. Trust me when I say, we have briefings about this and about how to process something that might need to be classified. As we are hearing from the State Department, they can’t even release this information to the investigators because of how sensitive it is. You cannot tell me that she could not tell that operational data (which was actually marked) was not classified.
3) According to many reports, there were a LOT of e-mails which were marked classified. Once again, she should have reported. Many of which, she continued communications in-line, which means she worked on marked classified material in a non-secure medium. That is also a violation of law.
4) They have also found potential inpropriety in her e-mail, which may suggest that she has violated other laws in regards to her position as Secretary of State and her organization. This may lead to corruption or other charges being filed if they are found to hold merit. It is currently being investigated.
5) She purgered herself when being asked about the e-mails, server, etc. At one point, she claimed that absolutely minimal State business was conducted on the server, which is a blatant lie.
6) She could also be charged for passing off the contents of the server to her private attorney who did not have clearance or need to know in this case. Even the items which were classified “after the fact (which is questionable at best)” would have been classified at this time. By providing this information to someone without clearance, need to know, or appropriate procedures would be several violations.
While some of what is in the media is a bit of hearsay, what is obvious is that she was absolutely negligent. When the FBI finally releases their report, or charges her, we will see (hopefully) a lot more of the facts. Right now, the FBI has confirmed (as has the IG and State Deparment) that many items were classified and marked as such. Further, she could not have expected that she would not be dealing with this level of information, and that she would have take action about it.
To clarify: This is a repost from someone who claims to have worked with classified material.
https://www.quora.com/Hillary-Clinton-E-Mail-Controversy-2015/Did-Hillary-Clinton-break-the-law-by-using-private-e-mail-for-official-business-Was-she-doing-anything-illegal
Crumpet, I note that you do not mention anything about Benghazi in your answer, and that is because, despite all of the money and time wasted on this, no one has ever found that she did anything wrong.
On the emails, please see the very first reply to your link, which I will copy below. “Failing to use government servers for official emails wasn’t made a criminal offense until after Hillary left the State Department. So using her personal email wasn’t a crime in and of itself. It was a violation of State Department policy, and a violation of Obama administration policy, but not a crime. Sending classified information over personal email was a crime.”
Whether she violated the statute or not is a matter of fact. If the FBI thinks they have enough evidence to charge her, they will. If they don’t, they won’t. Either way, it won’t be “criminal” unless and until she is convicted of an offense.
We have a female president in Brazil and many voted for her just cause she is a woman and she did absolutely nothing for women and is the biggest dumb asshole ever. After this, will people ever vote for a woman again?
Exactly if we choose people based on appearances and stupid stuff like that, without any real knowledge we are putting ourselves at a disavantage for someone who is a minority and can do a really good job. Look at how many racists came out and exposed themselves after Obama was in office, he didn’t do a great job but he’s not blamed for his lack of knowledge, he’s blamed for his race.
Choose a president who will do a good job not someone who likes your favorite nail color. Imbecile!!!!
Strange, I have not talked to one person who said they are going to vote for Hillary because she is a woman. I have heard from my friends that they will be voting for her because she is the most qualified of all those running and it’s time to give a woman a chance to see what she will do for the country. All you friends have been shaking their head that DT is leading the republican in delegates. Now DT is saying he is not ruling out using a nuclear bomb on Isis. His followers believe this is a good idea. I’m guessing they believe Isis is a country they can just drop a bomb, smh in disbelief.
” and it’s time to give a woman a chance to see what she will do for the country.” but that right there is picking Hillary because she is a woman, so you have in fact met people who want her as president because of her gender.
@oli-so people are just supposed to pretend that Hilary Clinton isn’t a woman? She’s been slammed a million times because of her gender but she’s not supposed to benefit from it because that’s “not fair”?
This reminds me of all the people who complained that Obama made racism more of an issue because he talked about his experiences as a black man.
Like it or not, having the first woman president WOULD be a historical moment, and an achievement for gender equality, whether or not you agree with her politics, that doesn’t negate this very simple truth.
@Oli: But Hillary’s being a woman isn’t the only reason why BNA’s friends are voting for her. They’re also motivated by politics and thinking she’s most qualified to do the job. To me that’s different (and smarter) than the person who’s just like “Well, I’m going to vote for whoever happens to be a woman and not consider anything else.” I don’t think there’s anything wrong with voters wanting to see representation of other groups of people in office as long as they’re not stupidly voting for someone without even looking at politics.
@BNA FN – is it really strange though? Sorry, but I don’t find it odd when people have differing opinions. Also I’m not sure why you said something about my friends wondering about “DT.” I never mentioned him, and I don’t know anyone who is supporting his candidacy.
@Kitten, I guess everyone is entitled to their own reasons for voting for someone, but remember the part of MLK’s speech where he says he longs for the day people will be “judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”? This applies to gender as well. I agree that it’s ridiculous that people tried to call Obama a race baiter simply because he spoke of his experience. But the fact remains that we should be working toward a society that is EQUAL, not one that is so heavily unbalanced because of someone’s race or gender. I also have to respectfully disagree that her winning a presidency is at all a win for gender equality *IF* a majority of people were to vote for her specifically because she’s a woman. Equality is when people go out and vote for her because she’s the most qualified for the task at hand. I didn’t vote for Barack Obama because he’s a black man, I voted for him because I thought he was the best person for the job. I’d like to believe that this was the case for the majority of people. THIS is when gender and race become an even bigger issue, when people take it upon themselves to ignore the character of a person and simply focus on their race or gender. It’s ironic how often those who make note of these issues are the ones perpetuating them.
Whether one hates or loves her, HRC has made one hell of a living and attained so much success without anyone stopping to give her special privileges because of her gender, so she doesn’t need that now either.
@Daria Morgendorffer: I see your point, but until we reach that level of equality in society, representation of other groups besides white men in office will probably always matter a little bit to some people. People shouldn’t randomly vote for whoever is not white and/or not a man and just assume that their presidency will be a win for equality without even considering their politics, because not every person who doesn’t fall under those categories automatically promotes equality either. There are women and POC who would just as eagerly want to enable/ignore racism and xenophobia, make things harder for the poor and disabled, and fight against things like reproductive freedom, separation of church and state, and marriage equality just like the stereotype rich, bible-thumping, straight conservative white man or MRA. But, if someone decides to vote for a candidate because they see that the person’s politics aren’t like that, they’re desperate to vote in a way that keeps someone like that from being our next president, they think that person is more likely to win than the other person with similar politics, they think the person is qualified for the job, AND they like the fact that the person running is a woman, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. Especially since throughout history not being a man and not being white have disqualified people automatically from having political power. I’m not saying that’s an excuse to throw caution to the wind and vote just for gender or race by default and not consider anything else, but people wanting a woman who comes close to supporting their political beliefs as a president doesn’t really seem like a terrible sign. The problem comes in when it’s “Vote for Hillary or you’re sexist/ a Cool Girl”, and people are automatically attacked for not voting for a certain candidate because of that person’s gender or race.
Not surprisingly, not a lot going on upstairs with this one.
@oil, go back and read my comment. I said my friends believe Hillary “is the most qualified of all those running…”.
It’s Oli but okay autocorrect does that, you said that your friends picked her because she’s the most qualified, then you said because it’s also time to give women a turn in office. I’m summarizing of course but that’s what you said. I did read what you said correctly, you can go back and read it, not trying to be rude by the way, but you did say that at the end. And I’m pointing that out to you so even though your friends think she’s the most qualified (barf) they also said because she’s a woman
Oli, how is she not the most qualified of the contenders? How are any of Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, John Kasich or Bernie Sanders more qualified than Hillary?
So are we now taking tips from a Kardashian about politics?
no. Sorry.
HELL NO.
Stick to make up and plastic surgery and try to improve those first.
To be fair, she actually said she WON’T talk politics. Her tips were on spray tans and nails.
Your wish is her command.
ahaha! yes I realised it after i posted!
😀
Exactly. Paolanqar is proving Khloe’s point.
I would really love to get rid of the fat under my chin. No matter what weight I am, no matter how thin, it’s always there. Ugh it’s the thing I am so self conscious about! I wonder if what she’s shilling actually works?
Johnjay from the Johnjay and rich radio show did kybella ages ago before it was a thing and had results. Guess it really works? He looked like a bullfrog for several days though as a side effect.
Those sunglasses are ridiculously unflattering
“nobody cares about what I have to say about that” Or anything, Khloe. Or anything.
…it’s also just good not to talk about politics when you don’t have a clue about them.
I wonder if you’re just genuinely happier when you’re that obvious. Like if I walked around the world thinking Super Tuesday was a sale would by side-eye soften? Questions.
The most profound words ever to come out of her mouth… Voting for someone because of gender or race, which is where we are now, is just asinine.
As opposed to voting for a president because you want to have a beer with them? (Bush)
Or because you like their sassy attitude? (Trump)
Or because they look so attractive on the TV? (Kennedy)
Or because they’re such a smooth talker and ooze charisma? (Bill Clinton)
Most voters have always voted for officials based on the most ridiculous things. It’s not “where we are now,” it’s where we’ve been for a really long time.
@Diana, +1 sadly, that is very true. You said it very well.
It’s not ridiculous to think that having a President who has a whole different set of experiences and perspectives because of something like race, ethnicity, religion, where they’ve lived, economic class while growing up, or gender could be beneficial. Of course you have to start with a competent person for the job. But the other aspects of the person can certainly be taken into consideration because they make the person who they are and may affect how they deal with new situations beyond their political platform. Diversity is a good thing for this reason, and striving for diversity is sensible.
I’m way more worried about the people who are going to vote for the candidate who best supports their 1950’s bigotry this year to be honest….
Yup.
By the way I find it interesting how she was actually talking about Hillary not to long ago but now says she doesn’t want to be involved.
Also I agree that it’s not in one’s best interest to vote for someone simply based on gender but come on…
Our presidency has been nothing but all white men save for one. Most people are apathetic towards voting and elections because they ultimately feel like nothing ever changes, or that the changes really don’t produce measurable effects.
It’s not surprising to me that people see a long list of white man and go, “Hey there’s a woman in this list of options. Sure, I want to experience that change.” blame the fact we’re one of the few developed countries dragging decades behind others who have already had female leaders in major capacities.
I’m voting for Hillary Clinton because I don’t want Donald Trump or Ted Cruz to be president.
Seriously?
Makes sense to me what FingerBinger is saying. Sad to say but that’s what I will be doing…what are the other legitimate options? 🙁
Very seriously. I don’t want either of those two psychos near the presidency. Although I’m down with Sanders, I just worry when the time comes he’ll find himself controlled by a Republican Congress bent on obstructing simply for being able to proudly claim they refused to work with him.
Eternal Side-Eye, with regard to an obstructing congress, why wouldn’t the same happen with Clinton? The Republicans have far more history and hatred toward her.
Many polls show Sanders leading against Trump. I’m not convinced Clinton is the best shot at beating Trump but the party establishment is behind her.
@sanders
Because in my opinion Hilary knows how to present issues in such a way to lead to things working out more in her favor. Simply looking at the Benghazi hearings she took what was meant to be an arrow to destroy her candidacy (whatever your feelings on the attacks a few members of that committee have essentially admitted it was a purely partisan attack aimed at making her an unviable candidate) and turned it into the most embarassing spectacle for Republicans. Sitting through an 8+ hour questioning being asked the same mind numbing questions repeatedly and holding your ground takes strength. She maintained a fairly cool head and showed that ultimately they don’t have the smoking gun they claimed to (much like Trump pretending he had Obama’s ‘real’ birth certificate). In the end many of those same Republicans admitted it was a mistake that ended up hurting them more.
Conversely Sanders plans for this country would require a complete overhaul of many systems. Perhaps this is odd but I often think Sanders is the right man for the job at perhaps the wrong time (I wish he was younger). Unless we can overhaul the Senate and Congress then I don’t see Sanders attempts to raise taxes on the wealthy or tax the inheritance that people receive from their parents to have any realistic chance. In a more Democratic based government I believe he’d be able to pass a lot of the laws AND have the support of the other two brances of govt. to actually support him needed to make the change to see real effect. But with him targeting Republican soft targets and them being in Attack mode (refusing to even see a Supreme Court nominee on principle) I fear he’d suffer even more obstruction than Obama.
Personally I don’t mind Clinton or Sanders, both are more reasonable than anyone across the aisle. But I do think Sanders struggles with minority voters in a way that shows establishment or no, Clinton will end up the nominee. He’s suffered several gaffes in regards to people running his campaign respectfully approaching the individuals and groups he needs to show his message and the phrase ‘Berniebro’ came into EXISTANCE for a reason. Minority voters really don’t like to be scolded by white college students for not doing the ‘right’ thing so I think polls only show half of what Bernie has been struggling to achieve.
@sanders honest answer of why she won’t get the obstruction sanders will or Obama got? Hillary knows where the bodies are burried, hell she probably helped bury some and she’ll destroy who she has to to get what she wants done.
For as long as Bernies been there I don’t think he got in the fray. Hilary is a politician first! And let’s also remember the republicans are going into this weak they could lose everything because of trump- they are terrified. She’ll be ruthless.
@ goo Yes seriously sometimes you vote for someone because the alternative is a facist dictator an anti woman anti minority ultra conservative who will destroy our standing in the world, put us in more danger, take away civil liberties and destroy the economy.
Sometimes you look at your options and go well she’s not great but my god she isn’t that!
“destroy our standing in the world, put us in more danger,”…… K, that took place over the last 7 years. It will take a long time to pull out of this one!
YES! I don’t care if people are supporting Hillary or Bernie, as long as it’s not somebody like Ted Cruz or Donald Trump who ends up our next president, And while we’re talking about “But Hillary will win just because she’s a woman” if Trump wins, it’ll be because he’s a celebrity bigot with other racists and misogynists supporting him- (By the way, there are literally white supremacists and MRAs making support for Donald Trump a “men’s rights issue” and an “America” issue) and if Ted Cruz wins, it will be because he’s the slightly more palatable choice for people who would otherwise vote for Trump.
I think a lot of people will do what you are doing FingerBinger. Donald Trump scares me and I don’t scare easily. Hillary has been there. She knows what she’s doing. Trumps hatred of people in general and women in particular and lack of history of politics is mind boggling. I don’t know of another human being on this planet that would make a worse president. I worry about the country now like everyone else, but with him at the helm, it would be off the charts. We need our first woman president whether it makes Khlozilla sad or not.
Yep, that’s why I’ll be backing Clinton, too. I am a Sanders fan but realize he won’t be the nominee, so I’m supporting Clinton all the way because there’s no way in hell I want a Trump or Cruz presidency.
I like Sanders as well WTW, but believe his time has come and gone. IMO he should bow out as Hillary will be the candidate sadly against that oranged haired person. I think Bill Clinton will be helpful in the campaign. He made poor moral choices, but in all, was a good President and knows what’s down the road. Neither seem intimated by Trumpet, they’re on to his bs no matter what piece of dirt he throws at them. I loathe this person, did I mention that!!! Happy Good Friday to all of the Christians out there. God Bless America and Brussels and…….
She is an interventionist war monger! Enough American imperialism already.
BabyJane: If you call her a war monger, I can’t even imagine what you’d call Donald Trump. He’s at war with his own country and any individual who disagrees with him. This television host who got fired from his own show. Good luck y’all.
Aren’t they all?
Americans will stop being imperialist warmongers once the rest of the world stops going along with every damn fool thing the U.S. government decides to do. Stop letting US military bases be established on their soil, stop cooperating with idiot wars and invasions and occupations and mass murder of civilians, start treating the USA like the dangerous rogue state and large-scale terrorist that it is whenever it acts like one. Don’t reward the toddler for bad behavior. Honestly, none of what the U.S. military is doing is good for the rest of the world and it’s destroying us economically, too. It’s all about profits for a few, not promoting “democracy and freedom” or defending anybody but the profiteers.
I’m sorry- didn’t mean to give you the idea I am a Trump supporter. I’m not yet forced to choice between only these two evils!
@BabyJane, if you are lucky enough to be a US voter, you will be. It will be Trump or Cruz for the Republicans and Hillary for the Democrats. Those are your choices.
Ha ha, she’s preaching that people should get educated about the candidates before they vote, yet she has no clue what Super Tuesday is? Fakety fake fake fake.
Exactly. She is NOT qualified to comment on politics AT ALL.
This is good advice. I don’t trust Hillary, I’m still hoping to vote for Bernie. I live in Canada now but I’ll vote from abroad
Hillary would be better than trump or Cruz though.
Wow. I can’t believe it but she and I agree on something. Cool.
“There are a million other reasons why, but I want someone to give me something with more substance….”
Thanks Khloe for encapsulating my summary thoughts on the Kardashian klan.
What is the difference between voting for a candidate because a candidate is a woman or a democrat or a republican? Part of the problem today is people don’t vote intelligently – find out what the issues are and decide if your candidate supports your ideas on the issues. You’re not always going to agree with a candidates idea on an issue, but you have to vote for the one that mostly follows your ideals.
Does anyone believe that Khloe is actually registered to vote?
Voting for a competent candidate because she’s a woman isn’t actually so bad. She can do the job as well as any others, so why not break the barrier and join the rest of the world that has been electing women to the highest office for decades? Sometimes diversity is good just because it brings more options to the table. I’m a Bernie fan myself, but won’t feel the world will collapse if Hillary gets the nomination and wins the election. She can definitely do the job.
The Republicans, on the other hand, have absolutely nobody this year that would make me feel at all safe if they win. We’ve had bad Presidents before and survived, but the Republican choices so far are downright scary. I’m so ticked with the Republicans for nominating really bad candidates in recent years that I wouldn’t even vote for a Republican for dog catcher, and I was always a ticket splitter in the past. We are stuck in a very limited winner-takes-all two-party system, so both parties are morally obligated to provide competent candidates. We don’t have other choices, and we can’t effectively boycott elections (no quorum required here) or mark our ballots “no”, both things the Soviets and others in Eastern Europe could do in their one-party system (which is why they were able to have peaceful change so fast). They owe us a competent candidate, not these neonazis they keep promoting. Must be really difficult for lifelong Republicans to deal with this awful situation, their party has been hijacked.
I’m voting for Bernie, I don’t agree with those saying he should bow out because he is still winning states and he has more of a chance to gain delegates with the states still to come. Our choices aren’t only trump and Hillary and people thinking that are what keeps this country from voting in a candidate of the people. Hillary has a long history of flip flopping and I won’t sit back and let her win without a fight.
One thing that even an ultimately unsuccessful candidate does is change the way the politicians think they have to act in order to win. So if Bernie gets enough votes, even if he doesn’t get the nomination he will still have seriously affected thinking about what the voters really want. It can be a warning shot to the politicians, because if they continue to ignore what people want then they will start losing elections.
More people will probably NOT vote for her because she is a woman then will vote for her because she is………
It sounds to me like she’s voting Republican for Trump and she doesn’t want to hear it. Smart move to keep it to herself. Maybe I’m projecting, though, because Kris and Kaitlyn are Republican. I would hope Khloe isn’t in their fold. I thought I remembered one of the kids saying they were all Democrat, now that I think about it, and Kris and Bruce (at the time) were Republican.
Ugh. I could totally see the Kardashian-Jenners voting for republican celebrity Donald Trump, especially since Caitlyn Jenner seems to support him.
My political beliefs always get attacked on here, so I’ll just say that while I don’t think white jeans are a bad look per se – they looked quite nice on Goldie Hawn in “The First Wives Club” – they are, however, a look associated with super rich bitch types. Which Khloe is, thereby confirming the stereotype, lol.
Will the carefully ripped clothing fad ever go away? It’s so weird. I’ve worn ripped clothing and been held together with safety pins, since I get attached easily to comfy clothing and hate to toss anything. But that’s because I’m not skilled with a needle and keep misplacing my needle, thread, and scissors. I never did it deliberately, and not in public… Except for the safety pins instead of buttons, which I also keep losing. People would come to me if they had a clothing accident to get a safety pin, I was that well known for it.
Her statement was shockingly coherent. Lol @ the super Tuesday comment tho
Let’s talk about something important, those jeans! Ugh. Too tight thin cheap looking. Ish. White jeans can be really chic but not those on Khloe.
I am so sick of this argument. There is so much more criticism for privileging women than there is for discriminating against women. But Hillary is not the only woman capable of being president. She’s just the only one running. For twenty years, Hillary has been the only woman running, and she’s actively set up a roadblock to other women. She is synonymous with first woman president. Only after her presidency will other women have a chance.
But when I vote for her it will not be because she’s a woman. It will be because I have voted for whatever democrat gets the nomination since 1992. I have never met a democrat I felt was progressive enough or really spoke for me, but I vote for them because the republicans want to padlock my uterus and dictate to me what womanhood means. I also care about education, debt, job opportunities, racism,and foreign policy. I am not voting just as a feminist but as a humanitarian and globalist.
But f**king spare me the the constant scrutiny of how feminists vote. I vastly prefer Sanders, but I didn’t create the two party system. Hillary is the most centrist, the most populist, and the most republican of the democrats. She will win, and her victory is entirely gender neutral. At least I can revel somewhat in the gender neutral future of populist, mainstream politics.
If she doesn’t even know what Super Tuesday is, she’s so damned uninformed and ignorant she does not have the right to comment. And there’s that non-high school graduation again…and just forget the fake high school graduation party Kris gave for the non-high school graduates…the “bought” graduations.
I’m not even Republican, but I’ve watched every single one of the Republican debates, so I feel qualified to comment. Oh, and, yeah, I finished both high school and college legitimately.
I’m sorry but anyone who is not excited at the prospect of a competent (AND I STRESS COMPETENT because Hillary Clinton is no Sarah Palin) female President should hand over their vagina like right now. Men do things because of gender… believe it. That’s why women have no friggin’ power in this world. How about we even the playing field a little, eh?
Agreed!! And there are people who wont vote for her strictly because she IS a woman.
There was a large sentiment that said they voted for Obama because he was black. So what. And you know he was limited in his power and given a hard time with Senate and Congress
because he was just that-black.