Here is the latest cover of Glamour Magazine’s special edition. The focus on “women of every size” is part of Glamour’s new partnership with Lane Bryant. If you look closely at the cover – which features the beautiful Ashley Graham – and the taglines, you might notice that the language being used is all positive. “Chic at any size” and “women who inspire us” and “Style Stars Show Us How They Rock Their Curves.” There’s no mention of “plus-sized” anything. There is one line which reads “Outfits, Ideas and Updates That Flatter Sizes 12 & Up.” All in all, I would give Glamour an “A” for making a body-positive effort.
But there’s still criticism. Not from the media though, from one of the celebrities apparently featured in this special edition. Amy Schumer was listed as one of the “Women Who Inspire Us,” along with Melissa McCarthy, Ashley Graham and Adele. And Schumer is not happy about it. She posted this Instagram yesterday:
I see her point about our skewed perspectives about body image and size. Especially since my first reaction was “Amy Schumer is a size 6?” But that just goes to show you how skewed this conversation really becomes. But… I kind of think this is an overreaction by Schumer? Glamour didn’t say “celebrate plus-sized women like Amy Schumer!” The message is more about “these are women who aren’t conforming to the size-zero-only narrative.” And if that’s the conversation, then why wouldn’t you include Schumer on that list? She’s done comedy about how she doesn’t look like other women in Hollywood. She’s done comedy about how much she eats and how she hates to diet and all of that, all in the name of being real, authentic and body-positive. After Schumer posted that, people reacted and some people agreed with her and some didn’t. She made another statement, saying:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone except the people who told me what I “should feel” or what I “should have focused on.” Bottom line seems to be we are done with these unnecessary labels which seem to be reserved for women.
Sure. I agree. This goes hand-in-hand with a larger conversation about body-policing, sizeism and the “plus-sized” label. Meanwhile, Glamour released a statement about Schumer’s concerns, saying:
“First off, we love Amy, and our readers do too–which is why we featured her on the cover of Glamour last year. The cover line on this special edition–which is aimed at women size 12 and up–simply says ‘Women Who Inspire Us,’ since we believe her passionate and vocal message of body positivity IS inspiring, as is the message of the many other women, of all sizes, featured. The edition did not describe her as plus-size. We are sorry if we offended her in any way.”
[Glamour’s statement via TooFab]
Yeah, I agree with that too. As I said, it’s not like Glamour said anything about PLUS-SIZED AMY SCHUMER or anything. It feels like Schumer was mostly irritated and offended that she was even included in an issue explicitly dedicated to female readers who might be larger than a size 10.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Glamour.
Comedians are some of the most sensitive people on earth.
If Amy’s a size 6 I’m a size 0. She’s more like a size 10.
I’m an 8-10 and I think she’s a 10-12. There is NO WAY she’s a size 6. Pretty pathetic that she’s lying about it. Next time make up a believable size, Amy.
I’m an American 4-6, however I am significantly taller than Amy. People always forget to take height into consideration. Amy is pretty short. Also, the camera always adds weight. Most actresses you see are beyond tiny in real life. So a little bit of stomach and thigh padding looks significantly larger on camera. I completely believe that she is an 8-12. Firstly she’s not that big, secondly she’s short so has a smaller frame, and thirdly she’s on camera which makes you look bigger.
@SKF Amy is 5’7. That is not short at all. I don’t want to speculate on her size, but I’m the same height, and while the camera may add pounds, I simply don’t believe she’s the size she claims. Amy, Mindy Kaling (claims to be an 8) and others all seem to have problems saying their true dress size. They shouldn’t have to tell us their size period, but if they are going to, be honest. Felicity Huffman has said that she’s about a size 6, and she looks it. Amy Schumer does not.
She’s a size 6 on the Kim Kardashian scale.
@ WTW
I’m not aware of Mindy Kaling claiming a dress size, but there is *no way* she’s an eight.
I agree. I do not have Amy’s exact body type – I’m curvy but shorter and more petite with bigger boobs – but I can definitely guess what size she wears and I know for a fact that it is not a size 6 or even a size 8. I have looked much thinner than Amy as a size 10. I’m guessing she is around a size 10 to 12 which is normal in the real world but plus sized for Hollyweird and the fashion industry. Methinks Amy is quite body conscious and was offended that Glamour included her in a list of larger sized women.
Agreed. I feel like she had a decent point–something along the lines of, in the media, anyone bigger than a model is “plus size” (re: fat) when women shoppers know that the plus category begins around size 14/16. There’s a huge spectrum of “normal” between 2 and 14, and Amy is well within that range.
But then she had to ruin it by claiming to be much smaller than she is. Now, her comments have no credibility.
As a size 12, I’m super confident saying she’s a 6 or 8 like Kirstie Alley is a 6 or 8. Sure, in a lycra dress! I’d say she’s 10 or 12 or even a 14 depending on the sizing. And she looks great! Not sure why she keeps insisting on her size being small. She isn’t.
She is a 10-12. Also, sadly, I think Plus size is size 12 onward, not 16. I wonder if they didn’t include Lena Dunham because they suspected she would throw a major twitter fit and they just didn’t have the energy to deal.
For Petes sake it’s impossible to know someone’s size by looking at her, I mean really? I am built just like Amy and guess what I’m a size 6. I am a six across the board. But I’m sure you all would think I was bigger going off some of the judgement here. I’m kind of sick of women coming at other women over size. Unless you are in her pants – no, you do not know her size. It doesn’t matter if you are bigger, smaller or what and find it appropriate to compare. **New flash** ladies all of our bodies are different. Where your weight is portioned makes a huge difference. This right here is why we are insecure with the number in our jeans- because of EACH OTHER. How many comments are here alone dragging her for what she claims is her pants size? I can also guarantee this woman is way smaller in person than she appears on camera. This whole conversation has just rubbed me all types of wrong.
I wouldn’t call a size 10 plus sized.
I agree that there’s no way she’s between 6-8. I love Amy, and think she’s great as she is. But sorry, there is just no way she wears that size. She really lost a lot of weight for Trainwreck, and it’s possible she got down to an 8 in some brands at that time. I’m 5’6″ and at my heaviest I was an 8, and even in photos I wasn’t as big as Amy is in photos. And my maximum weight was 145. Which is 20lb. less than what Amy says she is (165). I hate to point that out because it seems petty, but I don’t know why she’s lying about her size.
Yes not to body shame, but when I read she said 6 or 8? Really? If you talk about not caring about your size or being happy not being too skinny ect. don’t come out w a bold faced lie about what size you wear. She didn’t have to justify her point by saying her size anyway, just don’t give your size if you feel like you have to lie about it. I say why does anyone need to know what size another person wears big or small?! she was so offended she felt like she needed to give proof of why she shouldn’t be in that issue.
I don’t think Glamour should have tried to guess her size, and the more I see photos of her, the less likely I am to think she’s anywhere near size 14 or above, but I also think Amy Schumer could have articulated her dislike for being called plus-size a lot better. In the end, she worded her defence as if it seemed wrong to be grouped with larger women when I doubt she would have been offended to be included on a list with size 0s. I don’t know if you would call that body-shaming, but it does seem kind of disrespectful to the other women on the list.
Maybe if she had said it’s not a good idea to compare people’s bodies that would have been better….or something. Simply saying it doesn’t feel right seems rather inarticulate to me. And, of course, if you actually ask people what they think on social media, you can easily anticipate that half the responses your get you’re probably aren’t going to like. No way would I tell people my size AND then ask them what they think — I can already picture what they’d say to me, and I’m not even a celebrity!
It is so sad that we have become so accustomed to seeing most actresses being a size zero, that when we see someone size 8, they look fat to us. I am a size 8 and I look just like her.
Well written, Tifygodess24!!!!
Ladysussex,
I’m 5’7″, 165 lbs and I’m around size 8, for pants have to go down to size 6 sometimes. Size 10 is just way too big. I do work out though, so I have a fair amount of muscle.
Body weight and height do not tell you that much about what size one would wear. For one, muscle and fat differ in their volume/mass significantly. Very general example: http://www.body-buildin.com/2013/04/do-you-need-muscle-to-burn-fat-truth.html
So, just because you were a size x while weighing y amount of lbs/kg, that doesn’t mean that another person with the same height and weight would look anywhere near the same.
Mindy was probably a 6 on the office.
@Ana Good point! Muscle does weigh more than fat, and when I was an 8 I was mostly fat, not muscle. I stand corrected.
Sorry I don’t now how to reply to the correct person on here but @GWEN I can agree she could be an American 8 as that equals a NZ/Aus 14. I would consider a 14 to be a not slim but not fat either size here in NZ.
She looks about normal to me, if I were to crudely average out women in there 20s-30s.
I would guess NZ/Aus 12.
Oh and hi everyone. I have been coming here for 2 years now but never comment. Usually out of laziness
You guys are hilarious
Truer words were never spoken.
Came here to say the same thing (sorry Amy!!) I am a size 6/8 on the bottom and I am way smaller than Amy. I HATE picking on things like this but I also think it sends the wrong message (her platform) to lie about your size. I do think though that high end designers have major vanity sizing so whenever any famous person says they are size “x” they really have no idea what size they are in clothing from an average retailer that the rest of us wear.
Yeah, she’s probably a 6 in high end fashion, but she’s not a Target 6.
@NAMELESS…………Just what I was thinking. My kid even wears larger sizes at Target than she does in more expensive clothes.
Has anyone ever noticed she is the one who brings up her weight all the time? IF she would have not said anything about this and it would have faded away. She had to play the victim.
High end fashion actually tends to run smaller. So I too am side-eyeing Amy’s claims.
wait…so you’re saying that if I buy expensive clothes and stop shopping at Target, I’ll “drop” a size? That’s worth the extra $$! 😉
Certain high end designers cater to different body types, Donna Karan did that. It depends on the designers.
She’s a size 6 like Kim K is a size 2.
I feel like Amy is just trolling fur things to be angry about. She’s turning into another Lena Dunham for me. Obviously this is just my opinion
I feel like there is room to move within the sizes depending on what brand. I have pants from different brands that all fit me exactly the same, but the labels say three different sizes.
^THIS!!!!! I was just about to compare her to Kim and her skewed idea of her own size. It also reminded me of when Anna Nicole Smith claimed she had a flat stomach (when she was at one of her heaviest points). Maybe when Amy piled on the spanx, she can squeeze into a 10, but look at her arms!! Those are not size 6 arms. She got butthurt because she hangs around super skinny people.
Ok, so she’s the same height as me, she’s bigger than me at my biggest, which was a size 10, so she’s got to be a 12 at least. I find it hilarious that someone who claims to be all about body acceptance felt it necessary to be all “OMG I’m not plus-size! I’m only a size 6-8!!!” when she could have been thankful she was included in a list of “women who inspire us”.
Agree with TWISTBARBIE
Amy is trying to make this a big social argument (what about the children? Double standards for women? Unnecessary labels?) but it feels like mostly her vanity was offended.
I just watched that Betsy Ross piece (which I hated) and Amy begins by chanting to herself “I am not overweight, I am not overweight…” But now she’s claiming she truly isn’t overweight. Which is it, Amy?
Totally agree twistbarbie and Bella epoch
She’s rather fleshy, as expected for 165 lbs on a 5’7″ frame, so i don’t believe her “‘size 6-8″ claim unless she’s shopping exclusively in vanity brands which deliberately understate sizes to flatter their customers. I’m 165 lbs now @ 5’10” and can’t wear size 6 – 8 unless I’m under 145 lbs. At 115 lbs, I’m a 2-4.
I’ve said this here before and I’ll say it again: I adore Amy and her comedy and what seems to be her body-positive stance (?) BUT I maintain that she is still lying and that it comes from a place of insecurity so deeply ingrained even she can’t get around it… Amy has said before she is 5’7″ and 165 lbs. I am 5’7″ and 165 lbs and I fluctuate between size 8 and 10 and I look a lot like Amy. Which I thought for a while was pretty cool because I’m cool with myself and I workout a lot and have a lot of muscle (more than her) but then she says crap like this. If you look at old pictures of her, she was much thinner when she was younger. As opposed to someone like me who has been “chubby” her entire life. So maybe she’s trying to hold on to that? Also, I think the size 6 thing MAY have been referencing either to when she was younger or from the movie Trainwreck…. she looked A LOT thinner in that movie than she normally does these days so perhaps she worked hard to lose weight for the role and managed to be a size 6 then. Anyway, it just seems like she’s completely contradicting herself in all her “body-positive” messages but then slamming a magazine for lumping her with plus-size like how dare you!! I’m a 6! LOL yeah whatever, Amy – at least I can own my size and be cool with it.
I’m the same height and was around the same weight (before I had a baby… still shedding that weight) and I felt like I looked a lot like Amy but with bigger boobs. I’m not sure why she had to drop her size in that comment, it makes her sound insecure like you said. I would have been fine with her saying she didn’t appreciate being in that issue, but I feel like she opened up a whole can of worms with the rest of her comment.
Amy could be a size 8. The camera seriously adds major pounds on a person. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen celebrities, who normally come off as a little chubby in magazines and on film, but in person look kind of thin. The camera really does add weight. I saw Brooke Shields once and she always seemed very healthy and average weight on TV but in person she is a twig. She was one step away from having a thigh gap. I’m a size 12 and if I was ever on camera, I would probably look more like Melissa McCarthy than I do in real life.
Yeah, like Jessica Simpson. People who have seen her in real life say she’s tiny. But people used to slam her for her body, before she lost all that weight. And she was tiny in real life!
I do background work for TV shows and I have been on most of the popular shows filmed in NYC.Most of these actresses look like 10 year old girls in person. However on TV they look like they wear larger sizes. I agree with Amy, in what world is size 8 plus size? I was in Nostrom’s and looking for a size 8 and was told by the saleswoman that they don’t carry plus sizes. lol. I have size 6, 8 and 10 in my closet. I have size 10’s that are too tight and size 6 that are too big. The cheaper the clothing the smaller they run. If I shopped at Neiman Marcus I would probably wear a size 2.
Carol- I completely agree with you & crtb.
I also have many sizes in my closet depending on the maker. The camera adds a lot and we are so used to seeing 105lb women. I was shocked at how tiny Tom Cruise & others actually are too!
I believe Amy but I also think they never said anything about HER size. They just said that they admired her talking about positive body issues. What’s wrong with that?
Crying foul because someone lumps you in with “real” plus-sized women?! Ugh- Amy really missed the point here for sure. And I am sad at all the posts nitpicking sizes apart too.
@Rhiley. Actually, there is an older interview with Lena Dunham in this issue.
It’s rather strange that these celebs talk about being comfortable in your own skin but have a fit when they end up in a magazine marketed for women 12+.
Oh FFS. Perhaps Ashley, Melissa and Adele should object to being placed in a category that includes a woman who is not nearly as pretty as any of them.
True comedians are sensitive but there’s really no need for labels. Well not ones for size, when regarding a ones weight of course. Will need it for clothing and stuff, but still it feels like people bring up weight for no reason, why would a magazine need to point out her weight we have eyes it’s obvious, this seems so stupid, what’s the point of bringing it up? What does it accomplish? It’s not like being plus size limits you. Why do we have to bring up the stupidest stuff, her weight doesn’t mean anything, nor does color, religion, age, sexuality, or gender. Can we just leave stuff like this alone. It’s only an issue when you make it one.
I’d be mad too if they brought up my weight because if you don’t weigh what society wants then your essentially not good enough. Fat is seen as an insult. And skinny but not too skinny is seen as perfection, but that’s just their weight, you know there’s other things like race and etc that can take away “perfection”.
Eta: “chic at any size” why can’t they just feature different women without having to bring it up, why do they need to make a big deal. I think we’re all smart enough to tell, my point is there’s no need to put any empahsis on it. Just do it. Nike slogan ha
I think her calling out brings attention to the point that bigger ladies don’t get the roles that underweight ones do. I’m sure she’d like to be considered for roles other than the “funny, chubby” sidekick or friend.
I think they should have asked her, that’s all. IF she’s Kardashian-esque about her (cough) “real size” then that’s her personal prerogative, no one else’s.
If Amy is a size 6, then so am I, and I’m a 14. And you know, you would think she would own it, and not get all pissy about it if she really was about body-positivity. She is really full of baloney.
Schumer is all “I’m chubby and I lurve myself ****you society.”
Now she’s pissed they added her in a plus list in a fashion mag making sure she adds that she’s a Size 6.
Oh Schumer is always going on about how she’s a 6. Always.
It’s a staple for her in her stand up, and reminder for everyone else.
So nope, I don’t buy the social component of her argument for second.
I believe its more
“I’m a a size 6. Yes I am! Yes I am! Don’t lump me in with ‘fatties'”
And since when did mags need a celeb’s permission to write about or reference them?
Agree, I commented below that she seems really insecure.
But I was surprised they didn’t get her permission to be mentioned on the cover. I assumed it was standard journalistic procedure for legit publications.
If they’re not interviewing her or providing new quotes, there’s no reason to contact her. They have photos she’s already released from previous appearances in the magazine, they don’t need anything else. They can even use old quotes from previous interviews they didn’t use the first time around. No publication is calling for permission every time they use a celebrity likeness.
That makes sense. I always thought it was the more tabloid-y publications that recycled quotes and photos. Glamor, from what I remember of it, seemed to be more of a provider of original content. I know everything’s changed in publishing, though, now it’s all about getting clicks at any cost (or whatever the hard copy equivalent is).
All magazines recycle photos. People will even do “blank” photoshoots and the license goes to a clearinghouse that can lend photos to multiple publications over a set period of time (like, say, 2-3 years). That’s just more convenient for the talent than doing a dozen different photoshoots a year. You tend to see it more with the international versions of magazines (like Glamour Australia using photos from a previous Glamour photoshoot), but based on the cover copy, what Glamour in has in this issue appears to be nothing more than a list, with perhaps 100 words of generic copy like, “We love Amy because she’s funny and body positive! Yay!” and they’ll include a unused photo from her previous Glamour photoshoot. You see that kind of copy in even the best magazines these days.
Did you see that crazy take down of Elle last week? The writer called out pretty much every magazine for lowering their standards, which they all have, because they’re competing with the internet and trashier rags now. Most people just want to read the quick, generic stuff you see in People and Life & Style, so that’s what they’re all doing now.
I got that sentiment too. I can’t stand that half of Amy’s jokes are stolen from less powerful stand up comics, and the other half are written by men. When you have no talent, I guess all you have left is to make a fuss about petty things on IG.
This. Done with her. Couldn’t get through twenty minutes of her Trainwreck movie, even though the role reversal thing was set up well. Who jumps around going ‘I’m actually a 6!’ when, no, you’re not. Sizes are defined by clothing companies, which is pretty well established. She could have said ‘thanks for calling me inspirational, Glamour!’ and left it to the public to instinctively ask themselves if she’s ‘plus size’. All that being said, however, the whole completely separate issue for ‘plus sized’ women is something to side eye. You can look good even if you’re fat! Whatever. Should’ve just done a regular issue using models of all shapes and sizes and not labeled it anything.
i think shes too defensive about blowing up. she has gained a lot of weight since she was on the roasts…. i know the camera adds 10lbs. but still, her bud lite ads have her looking pudgy. i can relate to weight fluctuations, but she is basically dissing fat chicks. not feminist. shes heavy, own it and if u dont like it quit drinking and eating like a pig…
Please don’t generalise in a perjorative way as to why people are overweight. I agree with the rest of your post.
Thank you. Yes.
Also, she’s totally lying when she says she’s a six (unless she shops exclusively and NY&Co–love me some vanity sizes!). It’s very obvious that she is like a 10/12. I wish women would stop lying about such things
NY&Co., Loft, and Express are the WORST offenders when it comes to vanity sizing! I usually wear a 6/8, and I know that, and I’m OK with that, so don’t try to make me feel “better” by making a normal size M/L be XS/S. It’s ridiculous.
Old Navy, too. Stop making it confusing with the vanity sizing, just let me buy my size! And then Target seems to run super small for some reason.
Exactly! From the beginning she’s always come across to me as hypersensitive and really insecure about her weight talking about how f-ckable she is and so on. This is just more of the same.
Well if she’s a UK size 8, then I fit into Victoria Beckham’s clothes!
Talk about insecure.
I thought we left her in 2015?
Lmao
I wish. I have never been able to stand this woman. Whenever her segment came on during Hoppus on Music I’d have to fast forward or leave the room. I find her painful to watch.
If only…
She’s going on a college tour now and my friend, a grad student at Towson University (which is our alma mater and Schumer’s as well), asked me if I wanted her to grab me a ticket at the student rate. I was like, eh no, I don’t think I’m going to waste a baby sitter to see her in person.
No one would have noticed until Amy made an ‘issue’ of this. Whether she likes it or not, Amy Schumer doesn’t have the cookie-cutter size-0 body-type of so many Hollywood a-listers. And until yesterday, when she threw a fit over NOTHING, she seemed really comfortable in her own skin. I have a feeling Amy was most offended by being grouped with other women who ARE plus-sized. She missed the fact that the magazine was listing them together because they were confident in their individual body type – NOT because they were big ladies. The only one labelling here was Amy. The only one unhappy to be grouped with the fat girls was Amy. Which isn’t very evolved.
yes exactly!! It looks here like she’s just upset about being grouped with the others, which is so ridiculous
I know. How do you think it makes THEM feel that she’s offended to be grouped with them?
+1
Exactly GNAT! She could have said “I’m proud to be included with these great women – we’re all different sizes but have the same message” or something like that if it bothered her so much, but basically she’s just saying “don’t lump me in with them”. Which has to sting a bit.
+2
~ used to be Crumpet~
Exactly what I was thinking. She reacted way too quickly without thinking it through
Absolutely. It wasn’t smart of Glamour to not contact her before they put her name on their cover. But it was done. She should’ve just kept quiet because a) it’s not an insult, quite the opposite and b) nothing she could’ve said would have made her look good. They don’t call her plus size. They say she inspires them/us. And it seems like they put a lot of effort into making this a positive issue, avoiding buzzwords etc. And the only thing she can focus on is “I’m a size 6, I’m NOT fat!” I don’t know if she’s a size 6 and until she mentioned it, I never wasted one second on thinking about her clothing size. All I know is I’m not a size 6 or 8 and apparently that puts me in a group of women Amy Schumer doesn’t want to be compared to. Nice.
So well said Littlemissnaughy. Snap.
“It wasn’t smart of Glamour to not contact her before they put her name on their cover.”
They have no obligation to contact her. They made a list. The end.
Yeah, so? It still wasn’t smart. “No obligation” should really not be the only reason to do or not do something.
it’s literally not the industry practice. It would not occur to anyone to call her or her people. It’s not a thing that is done. It’s not a matter of smart or not smart. It’s not how this business is conducted.
Again, not really the best reason. It’s also not common to do these “plus sized” issues, that’s a new thing. So in an industry where looks and weight and body image are a huge deal and being called anything other than skinny, thin, slender or whatever else you can come up with to describe a size 2 is basically an insult, you really should re-think including any female celebrity in a group of not-thin women on a magazine cover (!) without at least giving her a heads-up. It wouldn’t occur to anyone? Maybe it will now. Because “That’s not how it’s done.” is really just not a good enough reason. She thought they called her fat.
Nailed it! Lady Jane.
+1 MILLION, BILLION, GAZILLION
Yep, exactly what I thought — I haven no idea why people here are debating her size, as Kaiser pointed out, the text on the cover is primarily about multiple body types. And Amy does make her body and the fact that she doesn’t fit the standard beauty norm a large part of her comedy. I was pretty disappointed in this response and thought Glamour handled it well.
I think Glamour took the high road, which is great. I really like the cover and the message.
Meanwhile, I was right there with you on the “there’s no way Amy is a size 6” train. I weigh 159 pounds and can just barely squeeze into a 10. Holy Vanity Sizing for Amy Schumer, Batman!
Honestly, it all depends on where someone carries their weight at. Just saying someone’s weight and then guessing their size is not accurate.
True, but she carries a decent amount of weight in her arms, and she doesn’t have a super defined waist line – which I guess could be making her look bigger. But I really think that there’s some vanity sizing going on here. A size 6 is pretty tiny.
There are numerous bikini pictures of Amy online. No matter how she carries her weight, she’s very clearly bigger than size 6.
A size 6 is not tiny.. a size 0 is. I know this because I fluctuate between a size 6 and size 8… sometimes a 10. When I am size 6 my waist is under 30 inches and when I am a 8 it is over 30 inches… so it is possible Amy Schumer does fluctuate between size 6 and size 8.
Just so you all know in 1958 a size 8 had measurements of this: 31 inch bust, a 23.5 inch waist, and a weight of 98 pounds. Today that is equivalent to a size 16… so this sizing bullshit is just something someone came up with….
By the way I was closer to a size 12 when I was in my teens with the same waist and weight………….so is that vanity sizing?
She’s not a 6. More like 10-12. For reference, Lena Dunham is a 12 and up, and there’s plenty of pictures of her and Amy together. They’re basically the same size. Amy is bigger up top and a bit taller, Lena’s bigger on the bottom, but there sure as hell aren’t 3 dress sizes between them.
She would have been a 6-8 a few years ago. I think she still sees herself like that. Remember a while back she kept posting that picture of herself in her underwear onstage to rebuke people calling her fat? That photo was taken ages ago when she was 30-40lbs lighter, not to mention it was crazy photoshopped. But that seems to be how she thinks she looks.
Excluding vanity sizing, she looks like she could be a 10. She typically wears tiny dresses that are way too small on her, so I can see how she may squeeze into an 8 from time to time. 6? Nope, sorry. Not a chance. Not in real sizing.
That’s exactly what I thought. I could squeeze my size 12 body into a teeny dress, but not into teeny pants!
I usually don’t like the focus on size numbers because really who cares. Just wear what fits you and don’t stuff yourself into something unflattering just to hang on to a size, but Amy is not a 6. No one cared until she pointed it out.
I’m with Glamour on this one. Amy misread the situation and overreacted.
I don’t buy she’s a six, though.
There is no way that she’s a six. That is pure BS. I’m much smaller than she is, and I’m a size eight. Liar, liar, pants on fire.
I like Amy alot. BUT I can’t side with her on this. She looks like a tool. And a tool who, unless she’s under 5 foot, is not a size 8.
She probably has all the labels in her clothes ‘edited’ to reflect a smaller size. She probably THINKS she really is size 6. It’s Hollywood; they are all vain as Hell.
She’s delusional. Depending on how her weight is fluctuating, which it seems to do, she is between 10-14.
What I’d like to know, is how come every time a celebrate women of bigger sizes article comes out, Kim K isn’t included? One of the world’s most famous women is plus-sized and everyone pretends otherwise. It’s the, ahem, elephant in the room.
A 14 is strong but a 10 is reasonable to me.
Julia Roberts was a 6 in Pretty Woman… There is no way Amy is a 6.
Well she pretty much negated any of the body positive things she did.
Exactly – there’s nothing wrong with being more than a size two! It’s all good! Body positivity 4-ever! Wait…did you just call me FAT? I am not FAT! I wear a size 6! Don’t put me in the same category as those fat people!
What a hypocrite.
That is what it sounds like.
Exactly, GNAT!
Exactly
That is exactly how I interpreted it too.
Yes it does. She’s basically making an excuse to cover the real reason she was offended.
I think Amy went off the rails for no reason. The only person throwing the word “plus-size” around is her.
Seriously. Glamour gave her free publicity next to some of the most beautiful, talented women out there right now and she’s… complaining about it? Give me a break.
Reading that, I have to say I would just assume she was included in the issue because she was plus sized. I can see where she’s coming from. The problem is we are still placing women in categories!! Can we just have a magazine about WOMEN?? Why do we have to seperate everything.? Women of all shapes and sizes should have been included if they really wanted to be body positive. Once you quit putting women into categories it will help a lot.
I completely agree with you.
I think Glamour is definitely alluding to it without saying it outright, but I think she could have handled her response in a much, much better way. Rushing to claim she’s a size 6 helps no one.
A solid 80% of the jokes on her show revolve around her body, and how not-Hollywood she is. She separates herself. She makes her body the most important thing about her – then whines when people talk about it.
I wanted to like Amy but Im tired of her schtick.
Has anyone seen the full issue? Is the entire issue about people above a certain size? Or is there discussion allowed for other things in this issue like there might be in the thin people issues? — because all I see next to her name (and the others) is “Women Who Inspire Us.” I don’t see anything about size when it comes down to specifically talking about her, Adele, etc. And Adele is great!
I have a copy of it. I bought some tops at Lane Bryant, and they gave me one free. It’s mostly fashion focused. It actually introduced me to some plus fashion brands I’d never heard of. There was an article on tailoring that included tips from Zac Posen.
I totally agree. Why have a separate issue to promote body positivity? Why don’t they just have women of all shapes and sizes in their magazine every month? Making a big deal about celebrating woman who aren’t size 2 seems incredibly condescending. I don’t really have much to say about Amy. She was offended, so be it. For what it’s worth, I totally believe that she’s a size 6/8. She looks super fit in the dance sequence in Trainwreck and whenever she’s pictured in a bathing suit.
I think her concern about young girls being “told” she is plus size is on point. I remember the days of “Ally McBeal” when Calista Flockhart was considered to be under-weight. Now her body-type is considered the norm for young girls. What with the thigh-gap for women and the six-pack for men, we are just encouraging young people to develop eating disorders.
In the end, everyone else in Hollywood is a lot thinner-looking than Schumer, so I don’t know if it makes a difference to young girls how she’s actually classified — you can visually see a strong difference between her and the other many women she stands with on the red carpet. I can see that visual difference alone affecting how young people think about body image, not necessarily how Glamour magazine chose to classify her in one forgotten article, which we now won’t forget because Schumer brought it all to our attention.
Because they are jumping on the bandwagon. They see a new audience and they are probably, as we speak, thinking us a new magazine called Big Glamour or some such. You don’t think they actually care about body positivity, do you?
That’s the problem. How about not making it a campaign and just include different sizes and body types all the time. Have articles about body positive attitudes but use different models.
I agree. And so many comments focusing on what they think her “real” size is makes me uncomfortable. The scrutiny of women’s bodies never stops.
“Why don’t they just have women of all shapes and sizes in their magazine every month?”
YES!!! This! ^^^
For someone who claims to be authentic and body positive, she seems really insecure. I think she overreacted, and I liked Glamour’s response. Although I was surprised they didn’t clear the cover mention of her with her in advance, though. That seems a little tabloid-esque.
They don’t have to clear anything with her! The only time you need permission from a person in a magazine is to print their image, but when she did her cover photoshoot with them last year I guarantee she signed release forms that gives Glamour, or more likely their parent company, so the images can be used across a family of publications, full licensing of those images in perpetuity, so if they want to reprint a photo of her for whatever reason, they don’t have to ask again. If print publications had to call publicists/managers every time they used a celebrity likeness or name, they would never get anything done.
Ok, got it. Again, I’ve been under the impression that most legit publications don’t rely on recycled content and images but I realize things have changed.
Huge miss for Amy — isn’t this her point? Isn’t Amy shaming the women who are plus by saying hey, no I’m an 8? And it seems to come around to women shaming other women on body size. Depressing.
Exactly.
I read this earlier without context and thought “Yep, ridiculous, Amy Schumer is not plus sized”. Now, with the information that the magazine does not refer to her as plus sized means that’s she’s come off looking whiny and that she’s insulting (a) the other women featured and (b) the readers. Regardless of whether Amy is a size 6 or 8 or whatever, I do completely agree with the fact that she should not be considered “large” by any normal standards. The problem is that if you are consistently standing beside Hollywood size zeros then you will look huge at a size 6. If Amy phrased her message in a less spoilt fashion she may have been able to get that out there more positively.
The magazine may not have explicitly referred to her as plus size, but they did say the magazine issue was geared to women size 12 and up, so they were heading toward that territory by Hollywood standards for sure. She may be a hypocrite for flipping out over her size 6 self being put in the issue, but the magazine is also blowing smoke by saying they didn’t intend to say that. They certainly intended to imply it, IMO.
Having said that, Schumer should be grateful to be included in ANY category with the magnificent Adele, who IMO is one of the most beautiful women on the planet.
“Having said that, Schumer should be grateful to be included in ANY category with the magnificent Adele, who IMO is one of the most beautiful women on the planet.”
Adele IS really beautiful. I’m so confused when beauty is classified nowadays — are people now only using the word to refer to bodies? Because even if Schumer might be slimmer, I would classify Adele as the one I’d prefer to look like. Does the face not count anymore when it comes to being considered good-looking? Both Adele and the other lady Ashley Graham have superior faces to Schumer so in that kind of conversation conversation I would feel a bit weird trying to point out that I shouldn’t be included with them, at least if I were Schumer who might happen to be slimmer than them but doesn’t have Theron’s body either.
In my opinion, it’s time for her to STFU, and go away!!! She is so friggen annoying. She needs to get over herself!
Size 6-8. Lol, okay.
Just like Kim Kardashian is a 4.
Just for comparison, I wear a size 38/40 in Europe, which transfers into a European size L or XL. In the US, I can wear a size L shirt as a dress and usually wear a size S. At Banana republic I wear a size 6 or 8, at Ralph Lauren I wear a size 12 (these are the only two US sizes I have for comparison right now, since I buy mostly European clothing, and since US designers will change their sizes for the European market.
Which just shows that talking about sizes makes absolutely no sense at all ever, anywhere.
That said, I highly doubt that she is a size 6 or 8 anywhere in the world.
Eh? A European 38 is a size 6 (if French sizing) or a 4 (if Italian).
EUR38/UK10/US6
No, a european size 38 is actually a french 40, not a 6. A 4, 6, 8 or 10 or whatever do not exist officially in contintenal Europe, only in the UK. And there, as I understand it, they don’t equal the US sizes.
Anyway, if anyone is confused by this, that’s the point – sizing does not make sense at all.
Where in Europe are you? Because here a size 38 would be an S, or an M if you really really push it. L and XL would be 44 and up.
I’m really confused now.
Omg, when I see European sizes, I want to cry. Not because ours are any better here, but all European countries seem to have their own and say it equals American size whatever, which is also meaningless. So I spend a lot of time trying to shove my arm into a sleeve the width of a thimble and feeling bad about myself.
Uhm, no. A US L or XL would probably equal 44 and up. A European L equals a German 40 and a French 42 and so on. But that’s beside the point – even within one country, the same size can be completely different.
I’ve also gotten the impression that the more money you spend, the bigger the small sizes are. Like, I can easily fit into a Boss or Escada 36 pants, but at H&M even a size 40 pant os often too small for me. It’s as if the fashion designers count on people being more willing to spend a lot of money on clothes if that allows tham to say – oh, but I’m a 30 (when really they are more a 42) – see Amy Schumer for proof…..
Yup, I don’t compare numbers and letters because it all depends on the store, but in my part of Europe I buy 38-42 or M-L (S extremely rarely). I never imagined 38-40 to be L-XL.
36 is S – that’s about US size 4
38 would be M in Europe (Germany) and ca. 6-8 in US
40 is L in Europe and about 8-10 in US
42 is XL in Europe and 12 in US
anything 44 and above in Europe (14 in US) is PLUS size, XXL
but the sizes in Europe are not as generous as American sizes
IN the States I can wear clothes anywhere from S to L (designer clothes), but most often 10-12 (M)
and in Europe it’s generally L and XL – average size in Europe (not in Britain) is 38. Women who are 40-42 see themselves as overweight.
French and Italian sizes are much smaller.
Totally, sizing is all over the place and it is so annoying. I have to bring at least three different sizes of everything into the dressing room because sometimes an eight fits and sometimes it is a 12. Sometimes I’m swimming in the eights. It makes no sense! I completely agree with whoever it was upthread who said just stop messing with the sizes so I know which pants to grab. I truly don’t care about the number as long as they fit well and are flattering!
I dunno. Madonna was once on Oprah, and O asked her what size she was and Madonna answered, “I don’t know, like a 6?” This was during Ray of Light so things were a bit different then societally, but Madonna has always looked the same. I’m never fully convinced by Schumer’s size declaration. She can say whatever she wants, but I’m not entirely sure she’s being truthful.
That said, enough with this “plus size” and “love yourself at any size” garbage. She’s right, it’s just women too, and now they’re starting to push it on men because there’s big money to be made there too. Isn’t there so much more that we should be focusing on?
Madonna looks more like a 0-2 (she’s tiny). No way is Schumer smaller than a 10.
Back in 1986, Madonna was probably a size 6. That size 6 is probably considered a 0 today.
I know this conversation shouldn’t be about numbers, or what size she is or isn’t…but she took it there. That woman is not a 6. Sorry, but lying about your size or bringing up numbers isn’t helping the conversation. We’re so attached to tags. I know I sometimes look at mine and feel crappy….unfortunately that’s what it’s become for some women. So she shouldn’t put so much emphasis on it, it contradicts what some of her schtick is about as commenters above eluded to…and as they said, it also makes it seem like she’s really uncomfortable with her size. Especially if she’s lying about it. She should be proud that she’s standing shoulder to shoulder with those beautiful women featured in this mag, regardless of what it says or doesn’t say on her tags. I didn’t think about her size until she brought it up.
Sizing and the number on a scale..that stuff is so arbitrary in the end.
Agreed. And especially in today’s era of vanity and inconsistent sizes.
Totally, we are acting like there’s a real size 6 when each brand has a completely arbitrary version (not to mention all the slim cut, curvy cut, etc etc out there). Argh, why does buying pants have to be so difficult!
Despite my dislike for Amy, I’ll say that It is actually possible that she’s a size six or eight depending on her height etc., We come in all shapes and sizes and not everyone carries weight the same.
Agree with Kitten. So arbitrary. IDGAF about anyone’s weight but my own.
I also agree with those who say Glamour should include women of all sizes and body types on a regular basis, instead of these special editions which smack of pandering and adhering to trends more than anything else.
Can we please stop labeling women’s sizes, Glamour decides to put out one issue with models that aren’t size zero and they get applauded, I would be more impressed if they would just put models of all sizes in every issue and not bring attention to it.
That’s exactly what I said. Can we just have a magazine about WOMEN?! No categories involved? It will actually start solving issues.
My only take away was that Amy is a size 6?! Aka UK size 10?! In what world? UK size 10 is lean, even with height considerations.
And for someone allegedly size positive, she was incredibly insulting to those other ladies. Her hissyfit highlighted her true thoughts on the matter which is that she thinks big is bad, and lied about her true size to add insult to injury.
I’ll never understand why Hollywood decides certain people are “it” & not others. And I especially lose all respect for those that do make it, letting it go to their heads.
I could care less whatever size Amy is or wants to be, it’s her crappy unfunny attitude I have a problem with. Thanks for giving Glamour free publicity idiot.
I hate all of this. Because once again, this is how women are labeled. Men do not have to deal with this BS. Find me a magazine celebrating “plus size” men.
She sounds petulant and shallow. Her ‘I love eating and I’m not slinny’ shtick got off really fast.
And as much as think Glamour did a good job with the magazine, I look forward to when magazines can include all sizes without any special edition fuss.
I’m kind of blah by the comments making fun of her for saying she’s a size 6 or 8. She isn’t big at all. She looks just like my beautiful sister who is a size 6! She has a naturally round face that makes her look bigger than she might be. We also don’t see these Hollywood people in real life. You can’t go off a picture or film. Especially in pictures where size double-zero is standing next to an 6-8. The size 6-8 will seem huge! Like an adult standing next to a child. You also can’t just say “I weigh 145 pounds so I’m a size blank” Pounds and weight don’t work like that and we all know it. Lots of people carry their weigh in different places. If you carry weight in your chest, arms, it’s not going to factor into your pants size.
Personally i’m going by her own bikini pics, posted to IG and other such places. She’s not a size 6.
Most of Hollywood, men and women, starve themselves or are spanxed to the max in order to look good on the red carpet. Therefore unless they look obviously emaciated, i don’t believe their Red Carpet image.
I wish I could post photos. Amy has bigger breasts than me, but otherwise I look at pictures of myself from NYE and we look about the same. I’m an 8. And she said she fluctuates, meaning sometimes a six, sometimes not depending on brand a weight gain/loss.
I have no problem believing her about her size and it’s really alarming to me that the majority of the posts are focused on how she’s “lying” and not that Glamour is clearly implying that she’s plus sized. I also feel like I’m in bizzaro world because I don’t even like Amy Schumer. LOL.
Bendywindy:we are focused on her size because *she* went there! She’s apparently insulted to be thought of as bigger than she really is, insults the bigger ladies ( the horror of their size! How dare glamour include her in that category!) And then posts a size that she clearly is not.
Posting her size, and lying about it in the process, whilst yelling at Glamour, is exactly why we are talking about her size.
We’re making fun of her because, like Olivia Munn and her magical potatoes, she is clearly lying. I AM a size 6 and Im smaller than Amy in all possible dimensions.
My point is that she’s not “clearly lying.” She and I are close in height and weight and I’m a size 8, which she claims. But whatever, im not going to argue with people on the Internet about my body. Thank God I’m not famous.
lmfao, really? because all women who are size 6s apparently have the exact same body type as you Josephina?
and nice subtle humble brag there. Please tell us more about how you are smaller than amy in “all possible dimensions”.
“Bottom line seems to be we are done with these unnecessary labels which seem to be reserved for women.”
‘Plus-sized’ for women, ‘Big & Tall’ for men – what’s the difference?
I kind of initially thought that myself Riley, but it’s not really true. Think of your last trip inside a Macy’s or Bloomies (or whatever). If you’re size 16 or over, you need to go to the “hidden away department”, like in the store basement, or up on the floor with the towels and sheets. The DREADED Womens Size area. Men don’t have that. They just shove their XXL, XXXL and what have you among their “regular” sized men’s clothing. So as much as I hate to agree with her on this one point, she IS right. And aren’t there women’s designers who have, in the past, said they would not make over a US size 12 since, ugh!, clearly not their market. No such comments made about what type of body a man should have.
I agree with the rest of you that she is no size 6 – but in that one comment, she does have a point. We ARE judged more harshly.
I definitely think the photos we see skew our perception. When I found out Mindy Kaling is a size 8 I couldn’t believe it, because I’m that size and she’s way bigger than I am. Except she’s not, she’s just bigger than most of the other actresses we see. And the camera really does add ten pounds, which actually makes me cringe at how slender a lot of these actresses must really be.
Anyway, no Glamour never explicitly said it’s a plus sized issue, but it clearly is. Just because they didn’t use the phrase doesn’t mean their intent isn’t clear, and I can understand why it would sting. It feels like you’re being told that being a perfectly healthy, normal weight makes you Hollywood obese.
In photos, do real life 6s or 8s look like Mindy Kaling when photographed? That’s the part I get confused about. The people on Facebook who I assume might wear 6s or 8s look slimmer than her. Although maybe they wear baggier clothes. Everything worn in Hollywood is so tight.
I don’t look like Mindy because I’m small busted with larger (but not large) hips. I’m a slight pear shape. But I certainly look bigger in photos than I do in person. And no one ever believes I’m a size 8. I really think our perception of sizes is skewed. Or everyone I know is blowing smoke up my ***.
Your point about being a normal weight being treated as obese is exactly the point she’s making. Think of what message it sends to the kids!
Then we have vanity sizing, which is spreading like a plague. I am actually a size zero at the Limited (5’6″ 125 lbs) which is completely ridiculous. I don’t know where truly small women even find their clothing.
Agreed, I’m US 0-2 and still have some hips/meat on me. I often see much smaller adult women around and wonder where the hell they shop.
Here I often don’t even bother to shop in many chain stores/cheaper stores as they don’t do a nz 6 (us 0 I think?)
Sizing is effed up, in a perfect world we could have everything altered or made for us…
That would be nice
Some actresses are really incredibly tiny but you do not notice it if you do not see it in real life.
On Kelly Ripa, Schumer joked about being confused with Adele by the paparazzi because of their sizes, which confused me, since Adele is so much prettier. I’m like, you could only hope to look like Adele!
I don’t think she’s a size 6…..
I mean whatever…but I see her being a 10 maybe. I say this because I’ve been a 6 8 9 and now I’m a 10…
I’m inspired by women with problems who deal with them. Going to work when you’d rather be hone. Feeling lousy and not complaining. Taking care of your health, your family. Living in a clean home. Curing an effen disease. Whether a woman is small or large means nada to me. I embrace not the body but the soul that inhabits it.
I’d press a like button for this post if one existed.
YES!!!!!!!
She’s a SIX? That may be the funniest thing she’s ever said.
Shoe size, perhaps?
I think that women who are not Hollywood sized supermodels but are in the industry get criticized all the time for not being super thin, both publicly and privately. They are justifiably upset at the bodies being the topic of conversation all the time. I remember reading an interview with a super thin actress saying that the pressure to win an oscar is immense. Imagine if you have that plus not being the right socially acceptable size.
I’m 5’10 and 122 pounds, recovering in last year from health issue which made me thinner than my usual 128 pounds.
Yes I am a thin women, when I weighed more even up to 135, I have been more of a true size 6.
Amy’s argument is annoying bc she falls into arguing with in the slippery slope of VANITY SIZING. She claimed to be a 6 or 8 when most designers claim clothes are really 2 sizes down to make us feel thinner. She is most likely a 10-12. What is her need to verbally attach her self to lower false vanity sizing?
I would have felt she was more confident if she didnt make anything out of this and was like I’m an average size American girl, with out shouting her vanity size. It shows she is insecure. McCarthy is on the other hand confident, accepting.
While I get vanity sizing, there is no such thing as a true size 6, 8, 10 or 12. The designers make them whatever they want to be. Lots of designers are larger & smaller for different measurements so trying to nail down a number as a standard is futile. I’m old enough to have clothes that span many sizes and if there was a true sizing system that all designers/clothing manufacturers adhered to that wouldn’t happen but it does. You have a general size-it can go up or down.
I’m 5’6″ and 156 pounds and I wear a size 8 in dresses of major brands (GAP, Banana Republic, the Limited). I wear a 29 in jeans.
I’m 5’1 111lbs- I’m normally about 108, but I’m keeping my holiday weight 😀. I can squeeze into a 4, but it’s tight. My clothes range from tag sizes of 0-8. But I would say I’m usually a 4. I’m pretty teeny and still wear a 4. But sizes are so weird and random between brands. I believe that maybe she has an article of clothing that is a size 6. Also, dress sizes tend to be smaller. In most dresses I would probably wear a 0 or 2.
I think she could be a 10 but I’m not sure if that’s considered plus-sized.
I thought plus-sized went from 14 to up, not 16.
Is she tall? Maybe that affects how she photographs? I’ve been a size 6 and I looked smaller than her, but I’m also short (although I was under the impression that a 6 on a short person could be considered sort of big, whereas 6 on someone like Charlize Theron would look very slim).
I feel sort of strange talking about her size, but at the same time she brought up her actual size, and when that starts happening, you can’t help but wonder what your own actual size is.
20 years ago plus sized was 16-18+. It’s a recent development that plus sized is 14+ and it’s a marketing ploy to get more woman to pay more $$ for clothes. (I worked retail for a long long time) If you go to any plus sized store all the size 14s are left over since the vast majority of size 14 women aren’t overweight and don’t shop in plus sized stores.
No way she is a size 6 or even an 8, with or without the Spanx. She looks foolish saying it and even more foolish for throwing a hissy fit at Glamour magazine.
I get her point, why are women who aren’t models, categorized by size? Male actors aren’t.
Of course she is insecure! She’s a woman living in Hollywood and everyone is making fun of her for saying she’s a size 6-8. She’s not the problem.
I don’t know if it was a good idea for her to mention her actual size. That’s when people start going “Well, you don’t look it.” I guess I wouldn’t mention it if I were a public figure.
I have noticed a lot of actresses feel the need to mention their size (Jennifer Love Hewitt did a couple of years ago when she gained some weight), but sizing can be arbitrary depending on what store you go to.
I actually agree with both of you. The comments about her size are irritating but I also think that Perplexed is right in that she should have never mentioned it in the first place, you know? She opened the door for people to speculate.
Still, it’s annoying that this thread has mostly comments about how Amy isn’t a size 6 when there’s a bigger, more important discussion here…oh well. It’s clear that Amy isn’t the best messenger.
Agree, she set herself up.
Insecure and deluded, you got that right.
She’s not a 6-8 (what is that, UK 8-10? hahahahahaha, NO) and by deliberately trying to present herself as “positive body image but still thinner than you” she annoyed the hell out of everyone.
I’m officially depressed… According to my measurements I am a size 12 but like Amy Schumer I fit into size 6 and size 8 clothing (see what I did there?!? ). I just asked everyone in my office if my suit looked like it was too tight.
And at roughly 135 lbs and 5’4″ how the duck would I be plus sized???? This brings me back to when I was 14 and starving myself.. so thanks everyone who commented on Amy Schumer’s size and arguing that there’s no way she’s a size 6 or 8. I will go starve myself so I actually fit into what society deems to be a size 6.
Sizes for clothes are arbitrary though. In 1950-whatever, Schumer probably would have worn a much larger size and in the UK she definitely wouldn’t be a 6, so I don’t see why someone would feel the need to feel bad about themselves just because some people are saying Schumer doesn’t look like a size 6. What actually IS a size 6? Are we even sure? Because I think my size would suddenly switch up if I moved to Europe.
Vanity sizing is crazy. Now you have to try so many sizes on to get a good fit. I was a size 8 in 1987. 5’3 at 122 lbs. now I’m over 50 years old at 145lbs and I’m still size 8. Wow that’s magic!
I wear the same size as I was in my early 20s, though I also weigh 20 pounds more now.
In the 80s, I don’t ever recall the size zero, at least on mall store racks. I think some of the downward shift was to incorporate it into sizing.
Size zero didn’t exist in the 80’s! I was teeny tiny when I was in my teens and 20’s: 5’4″ and 100 lbs. I wore a junior size 3, and that was the very smallest size that could be found in those days. In the 70’s, most stores started with a size 5. I could never wear the misses size 4 equivalent because my hips were too narrow, so I constantly wore clothes that were too big. I learned to sew when I was 15 just so that I could have some clothes that actually fit!
Now I weigh around 112 lbs, and guess what? I’m a size 2, lol!
In the early 90’s as a teen I was 5’1 and 98 lbs. the only stores I could find pants that fit were in 5-7-9 and Bongo? They did have size 0.
This definitely makes me feel less of Amy. Why is it an issue? Who cares what size you are? How “body positive” is it for someone to freak out because, god forbid, someone thinks they are a bigger size then they are. Sigh.
ZOMG, nooooooos, not the FATZ!
Whatever, girl. I don’t care what size you are. Personally, the only 8 I’ve ever fit in was a shoe, and that was in elementary school. If they included her to show a diversity of women who love themselves no matter what and project a positive self image, then way to prove them wrong!
I did not read any reference to Amy being plus-sized however, my first reaction was to her statement of going between a size 6 and a size 8 — scratches head.
If Amy is confused about her size she needs to rewatch her BudLight March Madness commercial with Seth Rogen.
I cringe every time I see her face screaming on my TV screen.
And no it is not the face of a woman who wears a size six or eight.
Its plus sized. People who are plus sized know it and so does everyone else. It’s not about health. There’s nothing offensive about the label plus sized. It’s about finding clothes that fit. No Matter your size,clothes should fit right and look good, not squish and stretch. I think it makes easier for people to find what they’re looking for without wasting anybody’s time. Glamour was making a great endeavour and honestly most people want to look good. Stop demonizing plus sized.
I don’t think she should be included in this article either. Not because of size but because 70%of the time she makes horrible style choices. Don’t dress like Amy Schumer if you want to look good. Ask Adele instead. She maybe predictable but she’s never wrong.
Maybe a size 6/8 from Chicos.
It’s all just way, way too subjective. You can lie about size or be telling the truth. Two size 6s might look incredibly different- if you’re super tall and extremely thin, you may be a 6. A very short and heavy woman may also be a 6. So what do you go by? BMI? My sister is underweight with a BMI of 16 (always been that way), but she wears a larger size than me (BMI 19.5) because she’s taller with wider hips- I weigh more and look much rounder than her. Ok so both size and BMI are out. So now what- just what people think you look like? Well that’s all based on perspective and opinion which will vary greatly as you can see here (some think she’s chunky and some think thin). It’s pointless!
Yeah, two sizes 6 can look quite different. Apparently Carolyn Bessette Kennedy was a size 6 and she was quite willowy. And she wasn’t a short woman like me either. If we were to use Bessette-Kennedy as a baseline, I can see why so many people would think Schumer isn’t a 6. In the end, I don’t think it’s truly possible to know what size 6 might actually be.
I’ve noticed sizing comes down to my tummy. If the tummy area gains weight, I have to get a bigger size. If the tummy goes down, yay for me, I get to get a smaller size. The rest of the body seems irrelevant in sizing, so even if my arms or backside stay smaller, I get no “credit” for that.
Schumer talks a lot about being bigger than the rest of Hollywood, like when she touched Kelly Ripa’s waist. Maybe we just assumed she was bigger than she actually is because she talks about it so much. I probably would have thought she was a smaller sized person otherwise.
That Kelly Ripa situation was when she completely lost me. That was completely unnecessary, rude, and just flat out wrong. If a man came up with that idea he’d be crucified.
I notice it with my hips, too. Tummy and hips.
For my teenaged daughter, sizing comes down to her thighs. She’s 5’4 1/2 and 126 lbs. She’s an athlete and very muscular. Right now she has a range of sizes (0-6) in her closet and it’s all because of her thighs. She looks very slender and people are surprised she weighs what she does but she’s very lean. So every body type is different and sizes can range…that being said, I would guess Amy ranges from an 8 (Trainwreck movie) to a 10 (recent commercials.) but who cares??! Obviously Amy. No, she’s isn’t plus-sized but no one called her that. She “inspires” people because she doesn’t have the typical Hollywood body and seemed to celebrate that. But she just came off as an insecure brat with her comments.
Say what you will, but “chic at any size” in giant letters followed by an exclamation point is not body-positive.
Totally agree. “You TOO can be chic… even if you’re not a normal size” is the message I read from that. It’s condescending.
I took that headline to mean that the magazine was going to find stylish clothes for people above a certain size to wear. A lot of fashion designers tend to assume larger women should wear baggy clothes from K-Mart and not dare to consider trying to wear their brand.
Yeah. Many fashion houses only make clothing in small sizes. A friend of mine is a HUGE woman, she’s got DD knockers, a more-than-generous booty, ample waist and stands at 6 feet. In winter she wears amazing coats, but she struggles to find anything fashionable and cute for summer, let alone swimwear.
Dressing chic IS harder for bigger women. Thats just a fact.
Seems like women’s magazines can’t win? Either they’re accused of speaking only to a limited demographic (young, model-sized women) or of being insensitive because they specify advice based on things like body size, age, whatever.
I read InStyle magazine, and they regularly have features such as “beauty at any age” where they break out beauty products by age based on what the biggest challenges for each group (e.g. a woman in her 40’s has diff needs than a 20 year old). The also have features that make suggestions for selecting, say, jeans, swimsuits, bras, etc. based on body shape. To me, this makes sense, since one size does not fit all and they are providing advice that is specific to different reader demographics. I’m not too offended by Glamour’s issue, I just think they would do better if this was part of their monthly magazine instead of making is a “special issue.” (Or maybe they do – I don’t read Glamour).
I used to subscribe (haven’t for about 5 years, so this may be old inf) and I felt like they were quite good in their fashion articles about offering different advice for different body types (apple, pear, square, etc). They also do mix it up with their featured people so there are lots of body types. The ads, well, you can imagine.
I WANT that dress Ashley Graham is wearing on the cover but can’t seem to track it down. Anyone know where its from? I checked Lane Bryant, its not thereeee
I agree, that dress is so beautiful!!!!
Shame on Glamour. “Chic at Any Size” is ridiculous. What’s next month’s cover? – “Chic no matter your skin color”??? Glamour’s editorial staff – what a bunch of effin idiots.
While Glamour’s response sounds entirely correct and high-road, Amy’s name is in the middle of a list of women who are commonly considered plus sized. At a glance, I assumed that was the point of the list: inspiring plus-sized women. So I think Glamour is being disingenuous after the fact.
Yes, completely agree.
She’s not a size six. No shot. When she stands next to JLaw is obvious. Jennifer is probably a 4 and she’s much smaller than Amy, but they’re relatively the same height. I’m 5’7, 155 lbs and a six is tight on me. I have B cup boobs and wear a 27 in pants.
THAT SAID – everything she ever stood for is all moot because she’s flipping out over being miscatagorized over her size. She could have used this to her advantage and made it an ah-ha moment, but instead she decided to act like a petulant child BECAUSE I’M A 6-8.
She’s being oversensitive. I could buy her protests if she didn’t make such a big stink about making sure EVERYONE knows that she is a 6 or an 8.
She does not make herself look good here.
exactly, I agree.
Meh! i think she is ridiculous and i’m not gonna say lying but i’m also not gonna say Glamour is wrong to assume, she just has that round face a features that I’d see how she reads bigger?
Also, her shoulders and arms are big in proportion to her body, which is actually not big at all. But having that upper body broadness makes you look heavier, I think.
Umm hmm and also that in order to highlight her legs she lives in those tinsy dresses/skirt/babydolls that nearly give me a heart conniption every time cause i think it’ll show something any minute, so like the whole thing DOES throw her proportions visually
Lol, you’re right. You have to look at her through your slightly open fingers covering your eyes.
OH GOD I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME!!! The whole time like “omg omg now I’m going to see her Chamber of secrets Nowwww… not now.. Inner sanctum definitely happenn Oh No No her arms are Down Ok NO WAIT NOW!!! why is it so blousy dear god!… Oh Now! Yikes!”
QQ your comments always make my day!
I watched her movie not long ago and, although it was a bit crass, I was really happy to watch a movie with a normal sized actress. I watched the entire thing for that reason alone. Although, I do remember thinking to myself, “Why doesn’t she wear clothing that fits her?” In every shot she was squashed into a tiny, little dress that made me wonder if it was an intentional move on her part to kind of “sluttify” the character, or if she really doesn’t see herself for the size she obviously is. I guess she has answered my question.
she annoys me and she has some serious issues with self esteem.
she is not a size 6 and I bet if the tag line was something like:
“our 2016 most beautiful people” she’d bask in that lie though.
still waiting on her to be “funny”
Whatever size she is or thinks she is, it’s ridiculous to be offended about being on a list that also includes Adele.
She should have been grateful they put her next to Adele and Melissa when she is no where near their talent. What would they think/feel about her reaction ?
Also, I think that “chic at any size” is not that condescending. The majority of girls/women over size 6/8 restrict themselves when it comes to fashion thinking that trends are only made for thin women. They don’t know how to style their curves or are afraid to.
I don’t think women restrict themselves. I think they are restricted by an industry that limits fashionable options in larger sizes. You can find some great clothes in larger sizes, but not on a budget…. Having been everywhere between a 6 and a 16 in my adult life, I’ve experienced it firsthand.
I agree with both points.
“My stand up is all about how big I am and how unhollywood I look! I love eating and having sex! I am SO REAL and CURVY and I can catch a dick even though I’m 160 lbs! The paparazzi confuse me with Adele! Nom nom nom!” GLAMOUR MAGAZINE – THICK WOMEN WHO INSPIRE US. “How dare you call me fat! I am a size 6! Not that there is anything wrong with it but don’t compare me with Adele! I’m not a club comedian anymore. I was nominated for a Golden Globe, don’t you remember?? I’m an A-list now. So I’m a size 6!!!”
She’s an idiot. Size 6 MAYBE when she was getting started. There are videos of her being significantly thinner. Today? She’s at least a 10 and that’s being generous. I don’t understand people who don’t accept themselves. She’s being insanely hypocritical. This would not be a problem if she wasn’t trying so hard to go all Hollywood.
I don’t think Schumer is plus-sized, but Adele is someone I wouldn’t mind being featured with because that would most likely imply that I have talent! I don’t know if I’d want to be featured with Paris Hilton, who is thin…
Don’t care if Amy isn’t a six. The cover lists her next to plus size celebs. The mag calls the issue a special edition. It indicates it’s a special issue for ladies that shop for Lane Bryant sizes 14+ tyoe stores by having LB sponsorship. Insinuating is the thing that it did, and Amy isn’t a person who would fit into a 14+ dress. There is nothing wrong with her getting upset about the addition of her name, so the magazine could use her name to sell more copies
Do you really believe having Amy’s name on the cover is why copies sold? I do not know anything about her except the beer commercials but I know Melissa and Adele. IMO this person thinks more of herself by her comments than the rest of the planet. The woman on the cover is just beautiful! She is why I would by this mag not because of Amy I am a xx size comedian
Yes I do. Just like an Adele fan or Melissa fan will pick up this same mag for the same reason an Amy fan will. They are curious and want to know what a celebrity they admire is saying. Just because you may not personally like a celebrity does not at all indicate what others like IMO.
“Do you really believe having Amy’s name on the cover is why copies sold?”
They wouldn’t put it on the front of a magazine if they didn’t intend to use it to sell copies. The cover is an advertisement for what’s inside.
Depending on the cut and the manufacturer, I can see Amy fitting into anything ranging from 10 to 14, so I think she could easily find something to wear at Lane Bryant.
It’s obvious from her comments that Amy is in denial about her size, as well as deeply insecure. Nor does she seem to realize how her comments might offend everyone else listed on the cover, as well any woman who’s not thin.
When Amy and Lena Dunham freak out over the way they are covered in women’s magazines they only make themselves look insecure about their non-Hollywood size and shape. This completely contradicts their message of being comfortable about it.
This also backfires because it likely makes these magazines, which usually feature only model-sized women, reconsider attempting to be more inclusive of the non-model shaped entertainers. Really, why would you consider putting Amy and Lena in your magazine in the future knowing there’s a good chance they’ll use it as a platform to denounce you?
She does not appear to be a size 6 or 8, in my opinion. I am 5’3 and I used to be a size 10 or maybe a 12 at my largest, and I looked about her size, maybe a little smaller. I
I’ll be the outlier that understands why she’s pissed. They put her name with 3 other famously plus sized women on the cover of their plus sized special edition, but no, technically Glamour didn’t call her plus sized. Now she’s getting jumped on for not being as comfortable with her body size as she claimed to be. Jesus, this is how women can’t win. Like if someone is unhappy with their ample size they’re freaking traitors to the “positive body-image at any size” that we’re all supposed to be part of now.
How about Glamour do everyone a favor and don’t put out a special edition and just incorporate every size into every edition and then we’ll all be good. If 2/3 of American women are “plus sized” and Glamour caters only to the size 10 and below crowd, they’re just another niche minority magazine and their previously and hopeful future worthy articles will be lost…. or am I thinking of Marie Claire? Way to separate yourselves from the pack I suppose Glamour mag.
You are not alone. I stand with ya!
So let’s condemn the mag for daring to step outside the box instead of supporting it and asking for this to go mainstream. If we support this with our dollars and word of mouth don’t you think mags will change how they present women all the time because their mags will only sell if they change their ways? Hope this makes sense. We, as women can use our collective buying power to make change happen
Uh huh. When I think body positivity I also associate it with a tantrum about being associated with plus size women while declaring you’re actually a size 6/8 (vanity size). Her need to tell everyone she’s actually small is getting old.
Do you agree if Amy told us her real Jean size you would have a better idea of her real size ?? I am heavy now and I have dresses size 8 – 12 in my closet and depending on the dress cut can wear 8 but no way I can Squeeze into my 29 jeans , really then do you get a better idea of my true size? I bet Amy wears 29 really comfortably and is a 6 – 8 in train wreck she appears as a normal sized women as in average. Problem is everyone in fashion world Hollywood is starving, I saw on Daily Mail VS article they told fashion models they needed to lose weight. I bet those girls who do they VS shows don’t eat for a week and have anxiety if they are gonna be thin enough all week. I don’t care for how Amy is coming over and the fact Glamour didn’t even give her a heads up is crazy, but her main message is that it’s misleading to use a really average sized women as anything else is misdirection. Last comment is Mindy falls into this same bucket I love her style on her show she looks beautiful, it’s only relative to the skeletons in Hollywood that makes me perceive her as large. Crazy world we live in.
On social media one of her responses now is a video of her running on the beach in a bikini. Girl, you’re not a 6. I know that’s not the point of this whole issue, but honestly…
I like amy, I think she’s hilarious, but I think hollywood and the jlaw friendship have completely gone to her head. She wants it both ways – she wants to be able to joke about her weight and eating but she doesn’t want people to actually think she’s fat. I don’t think she necessarily IS a great role model for body confidence just because it’s her punchline.
Oh please! Amy’s entire career is built on making fun of her being a “bigger girl”. That’s what she calls herself. That’s what her stand up routines bank on. And she pretends she’s proud of it on stage. The fact is she is not proud of it and has a problem with anybody else stating the obvious. She is no size 6 or 8. She’s at least a 10 or 12 or larger. Who cares? What I’m getting from her statements here and what I’ll bet younger girls would take away from it too, is that Amy is actually ashamed of her size. I dont’ care to hear any big girl pride from her again because she’s full of crap! I’m willing to bet if the mag had catagorized her as a having a small or model-like figure, she would have blushed and played coy and humble bragged. She sure wouldn’t come out fists flying. i dont’ beelive she cares about catagorizing people so much as she simply doesn’t like the catagory she got dropped in. And lastly, just because the average size for women in the U.S. is about a 10-12, the fact needs to be taken into consideration that Americans, on average, are over-weight. Amy is overweight. Not much but some. I don’t beleive she is as healthy as she could be or would be if she lost a few pounds. I’m not into shaming anybody’s size. It’s their business, but I’m not accepting that over weight is healthy.
Your comments regarding her health are total bullshit. Are you her doctor? Do you know her diet or fitness regime?
“I’m not into shaming anybody’s size. It’s their business, but I’m not accepting that over weight is healthy.”
Lmao, except you just shamed amy’s size and called her unhealthy… Get the f-k out of here with that concern trolling excuse.
I don’t have an opinion about her health, but I probably assumed she was larger because of comments she’s made about her own weight. I probably took on the perception she put out. Maybe that’s what Glamour did too. It’s only now if I properly look at her photos that I can see she appears smaller in some photos than I would have assumed.
Amy Schumer is a size six in her imagination, unless she is discussing a lycra/spandex dress she can force herself into just like Kim Kardashian was able to squeeze into a pair of size 4 jeans.
It also drives me nuts when actresses look at pictures in magazines and say the camera adds ten pounds. No it doesn’t. VIDEO CAMERAS do. If anything, film or digital still images can make you look thinner depending on your angle towards the camara. Plus….photoshop.
So she’s basically insulted that they indirectly called her a plus size?
LOLOLOLOL
What happened to your sense of humor Amy?
By Hollywood standards she IS a plus size, the names on that cover are basically the names of the only plus-sized celebrities you can find.
I’m sure she’s aware she’s a lot bigger than the other 99% of famous people that surround her, so what’s the big deal?
Or is she denying the fact that she’s famous and runs in completely different circles than the rest of us. She’s not “normal” as in a non-famous nobody, and her life is far from normal and average, so why not accept the environment that you really are in (and that you’re making money from) for what it is, instead of deluding everyone that you’re “just like them”.
I mean I’d gladly swap her bank account with mine and let people call me plus size, no problem!
Sizes on labels are for some women like a prison or an obsession. There are women I know who panic when their size changes to the next number up. I even know women who have made themselves look ridiculous as they cling to their size. No one knows but you so why care so much? I understand checking yourself to make sure you aren’t getting out of hand but people take numbers far too seriously.
Self worth should not be tied to a size. Just wear figure flattering clothes no matter what size and forget the rest.
Amy should know better. But it shows just how hard it is to keep to her message and not show her insecurity. So many fuller figured actresses eventually succumb to pressure and try to lose weight. If she hadn’t made it her schtick, then her comments wouldn’t seem so desperate and absurd.
As a size 6, she is not a size 6… Granted, I once ordered a pencil skirt in XS (which is smaller than I ever normally wear) from NY&Company and, when it arrived, I couldn’t identify what I had ordered. Is… Is it a dress..? When I tried it on, I realized it was the pencil skirt I had ordered and it was so large that it’d fall to the floor if I didn’t hold it up. That’s vanity sizing for you. I obviously had to return it since they don’t sell an XXXXS.
The magazine never called her “plus size” so why is she so up in arms? The mag never used that term to describe any of the women they listed. I think Amy could have handled this so much better. She seems a bit hypocritical.
OMG, the Daily Mail reacted, ahahahahahaa, brilliant! Now that’ll get her mad 😀
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3526570/KATIE-HOPKINS-Amy-Schumer-says-s-wrong-plus-size-don-t-call-s-chubster-knows-cake-eat-it.html
I hope she doesn’t react to Katie Hopkins since that is exactly what Katie wants and that woman deserves zero attention.
I just want to know what the broken ears of a Bassett Hound look like.
I’m a little smaller than Amy and think of myself as a 6-8, but recently ended up with a couple 2-4 dresses that worked better on my frame. Whatever. Sizing is all over the place!
Amy’s point was that a magazine presenting her body type as “plus size” has got to be weird for women and girls with similar body sizes (I’ll include myself). Being told your body is “plus size” could reflect yet another unrealistic standard of what’s “normal sized” in America.
OF COURSE, she totally missed the mark – that’s not what the magazine was actually selling (“Chic at any size” is implying inclusivity, not restrictive labels). So she was wrong, but I see that as misreading and oversensitivity rather than malicious hypocrisy, and I am giving her the benefit of the doubt on these “size lies” accusations popping up. Sizing nowadays is so random that I think many women just pick a number that’s often about right and go from there. I don’t think I’m lying if I call myself a 4, 6, or 8 at this point – I own them all, and just guess when I’m shopping for new clothes.
Way to punch body positivity in the nose, Schumer.
Well she’s not plus size and Ashley Graham is photoshopped to look thinner in every picture I see of her. This inspiring at every size campaign is bs. Bottom line is Amy doesn’t like being considered as fat.
I was a Size 6 at 5-5-1/2″ and 117 pounds (that was quite awhile back). Amy is no Size 6–or 8.
However, I do think labels need to be done away with. Whatever size you are that is what you are…no labels needed. How boring this world would be if we were all the same size, all the same color, and had all the same beliefs and opinions.
She is definitely not a six. Lol. What a bunch of fuss over nothing.
I’m with Glamour on this too. She is so ful of herself. She is constantly talking about her self as an outsider because she is steretyped as fat by the hollywood standards and about how she is gere to inspire women of all sizes. And once she is cited as an inspiration for a real women’s body type she gets offended !?? The only explanation is that she considers an insult beeing labeled as a fatty. So much for self irony and self criticism
Wow. Just wow. I’m a size 08/10. 5 feet 10 inches tall and I get told I’m too skinny.
I’m upset at people saying “No WAY is she a 6 or an 8!”
You don’t know. You just don’t. You would never believe I wear the size that I do going off y’alls comments.. Comparing myself to Hollywood sizes I guess people would look at me and think I’d wear a 4/6, because I *am* thin. Guess I’m a big liar too. Smh at these comments.
Some people here seem to not take body shape into consideration. I couldn’t fit a size 6 when I was her weight because I have wide hips, but her shape is less curvy than mine, so I’m not thrown by the idea that she can fit some size 6s. It just goes to show how much models skew our idea of size.
She introduced her size and invited the conversation. All she had to say was that she was an average sized woman but she just couldn’t resist stating a number.
Um, I’m the same height as Amy and used to weigh the same, and I used to be an 8. I did look thinner – because I have a longer torso than she does and my shape is more hourglassy, so my weight distributes differently. I guess I could see the argument that she’s a 10, but that’s still not plus sized. I just don’t get some of the comments about her being deceitful about her size – what I think is that Photoshop has seriously skewed our idea of what those sizes actually look like. Your build dramatically effects how weight sits on your body, same as your height.
I’m 135 lbs and a size 0/2. No, I don’t have any hips or ass to speak of.
I actually believe she could be a size 6. at least from what I remember her looking like in TW.
I think for all her talk of embracing her curves, not being a Hollywood stick figure and how her sex life is great, there’s still a part of Amy that doesn’t want to actually be thought of in anyway as the dreaded ‘plus size’. No matter how strong your self-esteem it has to be rough on a person to be in the Hollywood milieu–and as her profile has risen, so has her appearance at red carpet events and the subsequent criticisms of appearance. When you’re more under-the-radar, it may be easier to maintain that sense of body confidence but it has to be hard to have it regularly scrutinized.
I’m not as large as Melissa McCarthy but I know I’m not as small as Natalie Portman either, and I’m pretty sure other people can tell I’m not as small as Natalie too, so I wouldn’t try to argue what other people might perceive about my appearance. I can see how people thinking I’m a size 14 if I’m really a smaller size would be upsetting, but at the same time this seems like one of those battles that’s kind of useless to fight since people will have their own perceptions of how I look to them on any given day whether I like it or not.
If Schumer is much slimmer than what Glamour might be claiming (and I’m not even sure what they’re claiming at this point) , I’m sure people will figure that out on their own when they see her time and time again in magazines or on tv. I certainly noticed when Adele started getting slimmer on her sugar-free diet and I vaguely remember going “Wait a sec…she’s not nearly as large as the media made her out be.” And when everyone claimed Kate Winslet was too large for that piece of board that came off the Titanic that she couldn’t share with Jack, I went “Wait a sec! She doesn’t look fat! What is Spice Girl Emma talking about???…”
I guess I disagree. Amy isn’t thin and has some extra pounds on her, but she is hardly plus-sized. And what kind of stigma is that label giving a teenager or young woman who is a size eight or ten, say, that she must be “plus sized,” then, since Amy is plus sized. Plus sized was always designated for a much larger woman. It is perpetuating the idea that you have to be very small sizes or you are thrown in the plus-size category. I think that is very unhealthy for young women and their body image who are already self-conscious about themselves and just plain false. Amy is not plus-sized.
I think absolutely Amy did the right thing addressing this.
But the thing is I don’t see the label plus-sized anywhere on the issue. Granted, it’s a special edition, and I suppose there’s an implication there of some kind, but in the end they refrained from some using the label and Schumer is the one who wound up using it. Plus, the blog article says that the magazine addresses size 12 and above, and I don’t think size 12 is considered plus-size. At worst, I guess I might have assumed Schumer is size 12 if that’s what the magazine is using as a starting point, but not plus-size or extremely large. However, Schumer seems to think size 12 is plus-size and has erred in categorizing some women as being included in a category that they aren’t. She’s angry at the magazine for putting her in a category she doesn’t belong, but it seems she may have done the same thing with people who are size 12.
If the magazine had claimed this is an issue for size 16 and above, I can see her point, but they didn’t. And they seem to have resisted any reference to plus-anything. The only words I can see are “Special Edition,” and I assume they’re addressing anybody who is normal sized to plus-sized (normal-sized is an anomaly in Hollywood anyway, and thus, also “special”), not plus-size to even more plus-sized. Maybe she erroneously interpreted this edition as exclusively the fat edition.
I can see where Amy is coming from, but, aside from that, I don’t believe she’s as small as she claims.
My daughter is Amy’s height and she’s a size 4-6 (I buy her clothes sometimes) American, 36 European, 8 UK. She’s about half Amy’s size. I estimate Amy to be about 10 (US size), maybe she goes down to 8 sometimes, but she goes up to 12 too, her weight fluctuates a lot. She was probably 6-8 in Trainwreck. I’m sure she’s sensitive about her size and she was offended to be included in the “BIG” issue, next to Melissa McCarthy and Adele, who’re obviously much larger than her. But there is no way she’s a 6 now. She’s fine the way she is, btw.
I am one inch shorter than Amy, built similarly, maybe slightly more athletic/t-shaped, but never skinny looking even when unhealthily (for me) thin, and the only time I was ever a 6 was when I weighed 120 lbs or less. Before people hop up on me about how everyone is built differently, I fully get that, but Amy is not small boned or deceptively shaped, she carries her weight pretty evenly, like me. I’ll say she could maybe go to 130 and be a 6, being generous, but she herself stood on a stage and declared herself to weigh over 160. Which is size 10/12 at least for her height.
She may have dropped a few pounds since then, but she’s just lying or deluded by designer labels here. I hate when actresses get defensive about size when they put themselves forth as “normal sized /so down with the people” all the time. Who cares if her name is next to actresses who are different sizes? Why does it matter to her so much what is plus size? I think because like most women who lbh Amy (and I’m one of them) tread the fine line between “normal” and plus” sized, it is an issue for her to stay on the “right” side of that line here. I’m sure she will come out with another statement over explaining why none of it matters blah blah, but she has shown that it does matter.
Which is fine, it matters to a lot of women. But she needs to step down from her “I’m just like you” pedestal for a minute if she’s going to start pulling stupid faux feminist “but really I’m not THAT fat” moves like this.
Maybe she takes the size 6 and size 8 that she says she is, and sews the clothes together into a size 14, which is closer to what she would actually wear.
BINGO!
Height has nothing to do with your cloths size. Just the proportion. 3 women of different heights can all wear the same size clothing.
To me she just showed the truth that you see with many of the women in Hollywood; especially the ones that are forever talking about their bodies, weight, beauty routines and such. They all have insecurities. How many times have we heard these women go on and on about how much they “LOVE THEIR CURVES”.. then proceed to lose weight. How they love their age; then get offended if someone says “they look good for their age”. How many claim to be “Natural” then go out and get injected with crap and botox. How many of them claim to only use certain products then in reality they don’t use them at all.
Amy is not a size 6-8. and the fact that she had to make such a fuss about it shows how she sees herself in such a false light. Glamour didn’t put her on the cover claiming she was “plus sized”. And since when do magazine call you up to ask you if they can mention you. I don’t know why someone that claims to be so secure in her body made a none story such a big story.
It seems that April is becoming the month that these actresses are putting their foot in their mouths. Wonder who will be next.
Yeah well 3 women can have the same weight and be of different heights and I still wouldn’t call it the same, what are you talking about!?
Being 5’10” and weighing 120 pounds and being 5 feet and 120 pounds are two completely different things!!!
Also sorry, but height very much matters when you’re buying pants.
I do think she’s overreacting. They didn’t say she was plus-sized. She has a point about how categorizing any celeb who isn’t a size 0, 2, or maybe 4 as plus-sized or fat is a problem, but I think she also got a little sensitive about being grouped with plus-sized women.
Can’t stand her. Don’t know what her appeal is. For comedy give me Rebel Wilson. Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig any day
Agreed. I don’t like her at all either.
Just reiterating what a lot of people have commented up top – knowing someone’s height and weight don’t automatically = knowing their size. I’m 5’8″, and at my skinniest, which was 145, I was never any smaller than an 8. Weirdly enough, 30 lbs later, at 165-170, I’m only up one size to a 10. But my skinniest was a decade ago, and my mom was buying my clothes back then, so may there was vanity-Marshalls-off-brand sizing issues.
Anyway, the fact that we’re all talking about size at all is the issue, so, uh . . . damnit.
I think she overreacted but I do agree with – if you add someones name to the topic of your full issue, heads up to PR is usually customary. Also, the cover does read “this issue is dedicated to women size 12 and up” theres a label there that you could at least confirm is accurate before adding names. Now I do feel her response feels super sensitive and I’d prefer she did it directly to Glamour. I can’t stand responding thru social as your PR sounding board.
PS-I’ve seen Amy live stand up before she made it big, last Feb… she actually was great. Flawless even, funny. I’d say max she’s a 8-10… She’s got a round face and shoulders but not big on her middle and bottom at all. Avg size – but the weight its negl here… I think this is a protocol issue. Amy took the wind out of Glamours sail.
Pics can be deceiving. I’m between a 0-3 and sometimes I look super thick in pics, sometimes not. I think Amy is like an 8-10. I have to wear gear for work by a company called Land’s End. Their xsmall shirts hang on me like a curtain and I have some muscular arms for a petite woman. I believe a size 6-8 could fit into my ‘extra small’ sized Land’s End shirt (or pull-over or vest or polo shirt..et.)
Maybe the designers she chooses fit her into their version of a 6-8.
AMY’S got some thunder thighs on her.
Someone must have told her in the past she looked good in a mini. She does not.
Please stop.
I am a size 12, the same height as Amy, and I look thinner than she does. Yes, we all carry our body weight differently but there’s no way she’s that size. For someone who’s built a career attacking others and calling it comedy, sometimes, she needs thicker skin. It’s not like she’s morbidly obese and in danger of death, but she’s not a size 6. Lying about her size really does hurt women more than owning it and celebrating the fact some woman somewhere really loves her work and isn’t focused on whether or not she’s a size 8, 18, or 800.