Tom Hiddleston wants a career like Matt Damon or Joaquin Phoenix

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After a few months of speculation, I’m totally over Tom Hiddleston-being-asked-about-James-Bond. At this point, he’s not going to say anything new. And I think the speculation was always rooted in something stupidly obvious: he’s playing a modern spy/asset in The Night Manager, and people don’t want to think much further than that. Nevermind that his portrayal of Jonathan Pine really isn’t Bond-like at all. Nevermind that quite honestly, Hiddles would make a terrible Bond. Anyway, Hiddles sat down for an interview with Entertainment Tonight and they asked him again about Bond. He’s over it. But he did say some interesting stuff about which actors’ careers he covets, and what it will be like for him to return to Marvel (he also sounds over that).

The James Bond rumors: “I understand that people have made the link. Beyond that, I have nothing to add . The comparison between Pine and Bond is flattering…[the conversation is] hypothetical. I think any British actor that gets a phone call that says, ‘Would you like to play James Bond?’ There’s no more enticing question than that. I haven’t been approached, I haven’t asked, I haven’t been invited.”

Whether there should be a black Bond or gay Bond: “They will make a decision that is best for them.”

All of his projects: “I’m so proud of them all. They’re very different — each of them — and all of them are very different from everything I’ve done before. The best thing about it is that I feel like I’m not one type of actor. I suppose I’m able to show people that I can do different things, that I’m interested in different things, and I hope people recognize that.”

Nude scenes: “It’s always odd when you take your clothes off in front of a crew, but I never had a problem with it.”

On returning to the Loki role: “I constructed him so carefully… The character’s like a costume, in a way. I pick the fabric, I pick the colors and I cut it, and I tailored it to myself. I put it on, and wore it, and expressed something different about me, I suppose. I haven’t played in the sandbox with Marvel for four years now and I’m about to do it again. I’m interested to see what the experience will be like because four years is a long time. I’ve lived a lot of life in those four years. Inevitably, what I bring to the table will be different.”

He wants to have a career like Matt Damon: It’s Damon whom Hiddleston points to as example of the kind of career he hopes to obtain for himself. Though, he’s careful to even say the Oscar winner’s name for fear that people think he’s trying to emulate any one person. “The actors I’ve enjoyed watching are the ones who keep going into new territory, and investigating, and surprising everybody, including me,” Hiddleston says, also mentioning Ralph Fiennes, Daniel Day-Lewis and Joaquin Phoenix as other examples “that everyone thinks are great.”

[From ET]

One, I like that he’s comfortable doing nude scenes. He dropped trou for High Rise, The Night Manager and Crimson Peak and he managed to do those nude scenes without ever whining about sexism or being objectified. It’s almost as if he recognizes that women in his industry have it a lot harder and why not even the nudity playing field a bit? As Ewan McGregor always says, he drops trou for the sisters. As for Tom’s return to Loki… maybe it’s because he hasn’t played Loki in four years, or maybe it’s because he had to shoulder the bulk of the promotional work the last time around, but he really does not sound excited at all about Thor: Ragnarok.

As for Tom Hiddleston wanting the kind of career longevity of Matt Damon… I could see that, sort of. Matty D’s appeal is that he’s an Everyman archetype, much like Tom Hanks. Would Hiddles be able to pull that off? The thing is, I think he could be the sort of British version of the Posh Everyman. And considering that British films & TV projects have skewed more towards telling posh stories, then yes, Hiddles is an Everyman… if you’re only telling stories about white guys who went to Eton and Cambridge.

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  1. Emilee says:

    I like Matt Damon, that said, he isn’t one of the actors who “keeps going into new territory, and investigating, and surprising everybody,” at least not in my opinion. Half the time it doesn’t even seem like Damon is ~acting, just basically being himself. He is at the opposite end of the spectrum from DDL and Phoenix. As for Hiddles’ star potential — I think he’s too odd-looking. He’s not handsome to me at all, sorry. His eyes are so close together and his nose is a mess.

  2. BeachBelle says:

    Yeah I could see him as a Ralph Feinnes type more than a Matt Damon. Perhaps also a Liam Neeson or Alan Rickman. I like that he would like to be more diverse in his film choices.

  3. Eve says:

    An Eve’s bait post?

    I won’t bite. I’m out of shape, can’t run fast enough from his most ardent fans.

    Reeeeeereally have to keep my mouth shut now.

    P.S.: To those who don’t know, any headine with the words “Joaquin Phoenix” attract my attention.

  4. T.Fanty says:

    I adore Matt Damon, and even though he’s a little more movie-star these days, I do have a lot of respect for the choices he has made throughout his career. He can run a spectrum from Jason Bourne to Tom Ripley, and back again. In Ripley, and the Departed, he made my skin crawl (and I loves me some Matty D), and never let us forget how fabulous he was in Dogma.

    Matty D forever! Go for it, Tom!

  5. Phoebe says:

    I think he’s just tired of interviews, full stop. He’s been on this poledance for over a month now, getting asked the same questions, and he just can’t fake the enthusiasm anymore. I have a feeling he’s just looking forward to some downtime before he turns his attention to Loki.

    It was cute that backstage at James Corden he took a pic in their photobooth and then put it on the “wall of celebrities” right next to Chris Hemsworth. I think he’s excited to play with his “brother from another mother” again.

  6. Cary says:

    Am I the only person on this site who doesn’t find him remotely compelling? I don’t get it.

    • InvaderTak says:

      You kind of have to see him act in something (other than Thor movies). Did you see him as Prince Hal in the Hallow Crown series or as Adam in Only Lovers Left Alive? He’s much better in action. I haven’t started night manager yet so I can’t say.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      We all have different taste. We all don’t have to like the same actors

    • Miss Melissa says:

      I have to say, my favorite Hiddles is Henry V Hiddles. In looks, in charisma, in character.

      I think he is a character actor attempting to be a leading man. That is the disconnect. I like him in a suit, but on screen I like him with sincerity, not posh and arrogant.

      I’d like to see him in a supporting role in a Christopher Nolan film, and on a show like Game of Thrones. It’s clear he wants to be the big movie star, but I think some recurring work with an interesting character would suit him better.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        I agree with that assessment. I think he is better suited for the more distinctive, quirkier roles.

        After seeing TNM, I’m not expecting to be particularly wowed by his James Conrad in the same way I was with Hal or Adam. As much as I enjoy his work, I don’t think he’s big-budget, leading man material.

        I think the comparison to Fiennes is more accurate than Damon.

      • Guest says:

        Miss Melissa, where have you been all my life? 😂 I am such a sucker for his Henry V…. I totally agree with you. I do think that Hiddleston wants to be the leading man but who the eff is a leading man nowadays? Actors who are over 40 and older… I am really curious about Pratt’s career. How will he do in a non franchise movie….

      • SloaneY says:

        I agree with this assessment. I wish he would embrace the quirky, character side and stop trying to be the leading man.

      • Dara says:

        Maybe he’s taking on some of the leading man roles now in order to increase his profile with the studios. The higher up his name is on the industry lists, the fewer actors there are between him and a shot at any particular role.

        I think the leading man concept is fading away, but the studios are a little slow to catch on and their first instinct is probably to cast an actor that they think has enough name recognition to open a film.

      • Cranberry says:

        Although I agree with some of these assessments, I’m glad he’s attempting the mainstream leading roles. It’s a gamble because if he can’t quite pull it off (or sell enough at BO) then he gets tarred as “only a character actor” as if that means he’s less talented.

        Problem is mainstream leading roles are the territory of American actors. I’d say Aussy’s come in second because of their tough ruggedness and then tough and rugged Brits with just a few exceptions. But when it comes to the “every man/boy” type that’s generally likable and relatable without a lot of macho, American’s have that cornered, and Matt Damon is the poster boy for that type.

      • jammypants says:

        “It’s a gamble because if he can’t quite pull it off (or sell enough at BO) then he gets tarred as “only a character actor” as if that means he’s less talented.”

        I never took “character actor” to mean less talented. I took it to mean “less commercial appeal”.

      • Cranberry says:

        @Dara
        +1
        I absolutely agree with you. And he’s very smart to do this cause this is the way the game is played. The film industry is going through so many changes because the markets are expanding and there’s more competition. So I don’t see the studios taking risks on no-namers or off-type actors much except maybe POL and women because of being shamed.

      • NUTBALLS says:

        I think of character actors as the ones who for me are the scene-stealing supporting characters that are often more memorable than the main character — the ones that play off of the more straightforward, conventional lead actor, but the characters they play may be more eccentric and are the ones that stand out.

      • Cranberry says:

        @jammy
        Your right it doesn’t mean less talented, but I think it still carries that suggestion that an actor couldn’t make the grade into the top strata of actors. It’s a US culture dominated industry and you know how we sum everything up. If you’re not at the top, your a loser.

        Yes “less commercial appeal” is implied with the “character actor” label. Which to us may be favorable as viewers, but to many working actors has a negative implication of taking them out of rotation of many potentially suitable roles. They’ll never even get the change to be considered for many roles cause those roles will always be offered first to A-listers and commercial-type up-n-comers that investors feel are safer risks.

        True a lot of “character” actors are still making their way and finding really good work, but I think the label still makes it a harder for them than otherwise. Ideally it’d be good to be known as both character actor (actor w real chops) and as having mass or commercial appeal. IDK if their is a label for that or if character actors just grow into having ‘com. appeal’ cause they’ve built a great CV.

      • Cranberry says:

        @jammy (sorry also meant to say)

        Your right it doesn’t mean less talented, but I think it still carries that suggestion that an actor couldn’t make the grade into the top strata of big $. It’s a US dominated industry, and you know how we tend to simplify things: “If you’re not at the top, your a loser.”
        Slight exaggeration, still if you’re not an A-list actor, there tends to be a blanket misconception that you must not be “the best” (or as good as A-listers aka “the top”).

      • icerose says:

        Fiennes is a far better actor in terms of appeal as opposed to Damon and Phoenix they do appeals to me.If Tom’s career goes in any direction I would much rather it was in films like the Constant Gardner or more stage work.Films and plays with a focus on high quality innovative drama .Hopefully his interest in adventure block busters will wane in time.

    • Magnoliarose says:

      I’m in the middle but find something earnest, shy and kind of cute about his persona. Like he’d be that boyfriend you never realized was right for you until you broke his heart. Then you regret it very deeply.

  7. Karen says:

    Maybe a career like Colin Firth? The current Posh Everyman.

    Period pieces, drama, rom-com, animations and action. Career spanning many decades, private life is respected, and fans love him.

  8. spidey says:

    “Hiddles is an Everyman… if you’re only telling stories about white guys who went to Eton and Cambridge.”

    What, like Loki, or Adam in OLLA, Magnus, Hank or Coriolanus. Yeah all Eton Cambridge white men.

  9. Lilacflowers says:

    No, he doesn’t have to limit himself to posh Everyman from Eton & Cambridge. He can do a convincing American accent and was very good as dirt poor southern musician Hank Williams, even though the film let him down.

  10. Guest says:

    Why are Eton and Cambridge mentioned AGAIN? Honestly Kaiser, come on, you are doing this on purpose, right? I am saying this with a smile on my face…

    As for Loki: I don’t see or read “he is over it”… But he is right when he mentions a gap of 4 years. Very long time. And so much happened during this time at Marvel. He was very popular as Loki. I wonder if he still is tbh. Deadpool, another Cap, Ant Man, Guardians etc. The list is long. So the question remains: is Loki still as popular as he was years ago? People are frickle. Oh and I stick to the Bond material. If he wanted it, he could pull it off. Bond was never someone like Craig. More someone like Moore. And if not Hiddleston who else could charm his way into the hearts of every woman?

    As for Damon: I remember Hiddleston mentioning Damon during his interview at Nerd HQ. I think he compared his situation to Damon’s one because back then every script Damon got had Pitt’s fingerprints on every script. So Hiddleston said that the scripts he got had Fassbender’s prints all over them. As much as I love Hiddleston I do think that Cumberbatch, Redmayne, Hardy and Fassbender are playing in another league which is a shame because he is a better actor from my point of view. He lacks the right director. Someone like McQueen.

    • spidey says:

      TBH Guest, Redmayne hasn’t done/got a lot of roles since his amazing performance as Wtephen Hawking.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      @Guest, with the exception of Redmayne, all the others are a few years older than Tom and he is pretty much about where they were at the same age. The Night Manager and Kong might push him to the next level as far as name-recognition/stardom go but his career does seem to be perculating along on a nice, varied path.

      • twilly says:

        Kong is facing a lawsuit. Could that keep the movie from being released?

      • NUTBALLS says:

        I doubt the lawsuit will cause any delays. They’ll just fork over a few mill to the writer.

      • Dara says:

        @Nutty, that was my thought too when I saw that news. I haven’t read the details, but my instinct says that will be a hard case to make – Kong, and the island he’s from, have been in the public domain for decades – it’s not exactly virgin territory. Unless the studio blatantly stole the plaintiff’s plot and character ideas in every detail, I don’t think much will come of it. It sounds like the guy is looking for a check or a “story by” credit on the film, rather than trying to stop the release. That’s just armchair lawyer-ing on my part though, I’ll defer to the real attorneys that hang around these parts.

        Oh, and the guy suing the studio has a series of Skull Island comic books that are being released this summer.

      • Cranberry says:

        I agree. I do like the way his path is percolating regardless of the non stellar reviews and BO results. He at least has shown how well he is at his craft in these high profile roles/films, and that’s paramount for him. It’s easy enough to take a mediocre actor and turn him into a block buster leading man if he’s got the right looks, traits, is relatable, etc. But Tom doesn’t automatically fit into that stereotype so he has to work harder to show that he has mass appeal. The jury is still out on that at least with big budget films. But he’s not just banking on that. His rising popularity has helped him get the roles that are really showcasing his talent in ISTL and HR. Pretty smart.

    • jammypants says:

      I think Fassy is a great actor, but I’ve seen almost everything he’s done…I hate to admit this, but his range is a bit limited. How many times can he play intense/serious/cold about to burst in fit of emotion? Cumberbatch to me is the actual Posh Everyman. I get that vibe from him in everything I’ve seen him in. I think Eddie has range, but he’s a hit or miss for me. Great in Theory, awful in Jupiter Ascending and Danish Girl. I don’t think Tom or any of these actors are begging for work though and they will all keep working til old age.

    • icerose says:

      I will give you Fassbinder and Hardy who are both excellent actors in the same league as Tom. Cumberbatch is ok but over hyped whilst the better actor Freeman is often ignored and Mark Rylance can act them all off the screen and stage.

  11. mark says:

    ‘One, I like that he’s comfortable doing nude scenes. He dropped trou for High Rise, The Night Manager and Crimson Peak and he managed to do those nude scenes without ever whining about sexism or being objectified. It’s almost as if he recognizes that women in his industry have it a lot harder and why not even the nudity playing field a bit?’

    I swear the people who write this site didn’t finish school? Michael Fassbender complaining people talking about his penis wasn’t him dismissing sexism. You people just hear what you want to hear.

  12. mark says:

    ‘The thing is, I think he could be the sort of British version of the Posh Everyman’

    No such thing if you thing tom represents the normal british person you know nothing about england.

  13. InvaderTak says:

    I think character acting would suit him best. He can be anything really and his accent work is really pretty good. A Ralph Fiennes type sounds good.

  14. Eve says:

    Oh, dear god…a certain “he” is back.

  15. Grump says:

    It’s a tough question for an actor, isn’t it, about what sort of career to follow when they don’t seem to swing leading man status? Not to say he can’t or won’t in the future, but at the moment, it seems that he does best in ensemble pieces, which would suggest his success would be as a character actor. However, as Kaiser points out, he doesn’t seem to branch out of a specific set of characters. Many he can and will in the future, but at the moment, he definitely seems to have the ‘leading man’ appeal, without the box office draw.

    Although, who’s to say? I remember when Leo Decaprio was the hottest leading man around, and then he switched things up and did more character pieces, letting go of the ‘babe’ status, and that’s served him very well (although, he has always had a huge box office draw).

    It seems kind of ironic in a way. To be a big box office draw, you need a universal appeal, so you have to be vanilla enough to appeal to as many people as possible. But, if you are that vanilla, but don’t somehow swing that appeal, then you’re in a bit of an odd spot- not unusual enough to play memorable roles, but, for whatever reason, not a big enough draw for all the attention to be on you. Chris Hemsworth seems to have a similar problem. I mean, 10-20 years ago, he would have made it as a big, white action star, but I guess things have changed and he just can’t swing a big film by himself.

    • Grump says:

      Although, as an add on, I think Matt Damon has all the charisma and magnetism of a potato, but he seems to be doing well and getting good reviews, so what do I know?

    • NUTBALLS says:

      I said this on the last CHemboy post… after seeing his comedic turn in the Ghostbusters reboot clip, I think that screwball type of role suits him well.

    • TotallyBiased says:

      I don’t get the “specific set of characters” comment.
      Yes, they are all white, male, and interesting.
      Otherwise, I don’t see the little box that supposedly contains them all.

    • Cranberry says:

      See I don’t think CHems’ problem is that he doesn’t have charisma or can’t act. I don’t think he has a lot of range, but for the straight-up, action hero his acting abilities are quite admirable. Straight playing, non smartass, hero roles are hard cause as you say there vanilla, the “good guy”. I think CHems is cast appropriately for the roles he’s played. The BO failure of the films have more to do with a lot of competition and fickle movie goers. Plus the director going over budget to begin with doesn’t help the negative perception of CHems either.

      I also think the massive fallout of films competing with each other for BO ranking and fickle movie goers that will choose to wait 4-6 months to watch the majority of films had a lot to do with CP not doing as well as it could have. It had problems with confusing marketing and being rated R too. But really, most movies that came out during those months were slaughtered for one reason or another not necessarily because they were bad.

    • icerose says:

      Sorry LEO is just uninspiring -every one I know who saw his oscar film could not understand why he was nominated.

  16. Dana says:

    I can’t think of two actors with careers that are far different than Matt Damon and Joaquin Phoenix. I’m not a big Hiddy fan, but he’s fine. He’s like a 3 in the looks and a 7 in the acting. I think he can the level of work he’s doing now and have a nice career. dassit.

  17. Magnoliarose says:

    I think he would make a very good character actor but not a leading man. Like Fiennes can be. I see his point. It’s a good model and it lends itself to a very long career despite aging.
    I love James Cordon and I have to admit an animal loving man gets me every time. He was adorable when he waxed over long about the couch question.
    My sister loves him and says you know he’s the guy who’d hold your purse while you hit the dance floor and rub your feet because they hurt from your ridiculous heels. She has loads of examples about what he’s capable of doing. Lol

  18. Ninette says:

    I think TH is just tired. He needs to go away for a bit and relax. and not be focused on selling movies.

  19. jammypants says:

    “Would Hiddles be able to pull that off? The thing is, I think he could be the sort of British version of the Posh Everyman. And considering that British films & TV projects have skewed more towards telling posh stories, then yes, Hiddles is an Everyman… if you’re only telling stories about white guys who went to Eton and Cambridge.”

    Yes, he did already with Hank Williams.

  20. Mewsie says:

    If this man were to also go vegan he would instantly become my #HusbandGoals. He does want to be like Joaquin, doesn’t he?

    Also there’s not enough hot vegans!

  21. Cranberry says:

    I don’t think Tom is liked because he is “Everyman” of anything. I think people like him because he’s not Everyman really. He’s not typical. You can call it posh, but I think Tom ultimately transcends that stereotype. Sure he can do posh, but that’s not his schtick, and he’s doing more than just that with his career choices.

    If Tom has a type of “Everyman” effect, it is because he is likeable. Just watch him as Hank Williams who was seriously f*cked up. Mark Abraham cast Tom to tell Hank’s story from a more sympathetic and personal perspective, and it worked. Say what you will about the movie, but Tom makes you feel and empathize with Hank despite his unsavory behavior.

  22. NUTBALLS says:

    There, there, dear. Have a Fizzy Hiddles and watch Hollow Crown, The Night Manager or High Rise and perhaps you’ll see why the rest of us enjoy gathering and discussing LEGS and other things.

  23. Nicole says:

    Tom is gorgeous. He is definitely a Ralph Fiennes’ type. But as good an actor, I don’t think so. Ralph is first rate. Better than Pacino and Damon. Ralph can do any role. He is probably one of the most talented actors of our time and the most underappreciated. Its hard to believe he has never won an Oscar. The man’s a stellar star, the epitome of talent and classically handsome. Ralph Fiennes is “it”. HOT!

  24. anon says:

    Tom will be at #nerdprom (WHCA Dinner) tonight, which makes me think he’ll definitely be at the Met Gala Monday. I’m very curious to see who he’s a guest of at the Met…

    • ennuiarethechampions says:

      Ahhhh, he posed with Carrie Fisher and Gary!!!! Dying from cute!

    • TotallyBiased says:

      He and Carrie Fisher are both the official guests of the Guardian (last year their guests were David Tennant and Alan Rickman :( )
      I guess every press organization hosts a couple of stars?
      @Lilacflowers may be interested to know that the Boston Globe is hosting the cast of that movie about them–can’t remember the name.
      Brilliant pairing on the red carpet, though. And the video with them and Gary the Dog is SO adorable!

    • Guest says:

      Spidey, thanks. I kind of thought that he is been back in London. So why is he still in the USA, just a question? Any reason? Would have never thought to see TH at a gala like this one. Btw, why are his pants so short? Never seen that one before. :O oh and the thing what I find amusing: so so many British actors and actresses there. Love it. Helen Mirren looked awesome. Wow.

      • spidey says:

        Yes, everyone is commenting about the length of the trousers. Do you think they weren’t from his own wardrobe and they couldn’t find any to fit his long legs? :)

      • Guest says:

        Spidey, could be. Usually his pants are spot on. May be he didn’t plan to attend at first but then he did. I am not suprised about the Guardian’s choice. They are clearly Hiddleston Fans. I like reading the Guardian and love the comments people are writing below the articles.

      • anon says:

        Most of his pants have been like this since the new stylist came on board. The blue suit he wore to the Vogue event was particularly bad.

      • Dara says:

        I’m with @anon, I think that shorter trouser length is a deliberate choice on the part of the stylist – and I hate it with a passion. There have been too many instances on the latest press tour where the trousers have been hideously short. It’s never been an issue before, and only became one once the stylist stepped in, so I’m placing the blame squarely in her court. I did love the blue color of the tux though, I’ll give her that.

  25. Dara says:

    Well, that was a surprise. Someone on Twitter last night said she saw him in a DC airport, but I assumed she meant when he was in town for ISTL.

  26. Beach girl says:

    Met Ball- Vogue sent out an “informative email,” says a source, “for gentlemen to be dressed in white tie. That means black tails and top hats — you might as well ask them to wear monocles and canes!” Ticket prices were raised from 15k to 25k. I think a lot of designers pay the ticket price to have celebrities showcase their outfits. An invitation is considered a command performance. AW is going more upscale and exclusive this year. I would be surprised if he wasn’t there.

  27. TotallyBiased says:

    Also, someone alert Sixer. Tom expressed a political opinion!

  28. Ninette says:

    Wow… and here was I thinking that Tom was done with pr this time, and on his way back to London for a scone and a cup of tea.

    • waitwhat says:

      He’ll have to head back soon (maybe post Met Gala?), since he has Graham Norton, who tapes on Thursday.

      Should be fun since he’s on with Samuel L. Jackson & John Malkovich. Maybe there will be some Skull Island stories. Praying Graham asks him about the Hollander/jellyfish story too.

      Is SLJ doing his fashion show for One4TheBoys again this June? Maybe this year Tom will show up.