‘Game of Thrones’ episode 6.5, ‘The Door’: hold the door, you guys

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SPOILERS for last night’s episode, “The Door.”

You know we were going to be in for some terrible stuff when the “previously on” was so Hodor-intensive. But even I wasn’t expecting that scorched-earth moment from the Bran storyline. Game of Thrones definitely upped the ante with this episode. Other stuff beside HODOR (and the death of another direwolf) happened though, so here are some highlights:

Littlefinger & Sansa. I enjoy that we’re seeing Sansa-as-strategist, involved in the military decisions of how they’re going to take Winterfell. As she’s sewing a new cloak for Jon, she gets a missive from Littlefinger, who made it to the North very quickly, right? So, she and Brienne meet Littlefinger, and it becomes clear that Sansa blames Littlefinger almost entirely for everything Ramsay did to her. My question though: did Littlefinger really know what Ramsay was? I think Littlefinger’s alliance was mostly with Roose Bolton, and Littlefinger genuinely didn’t know that Ramsay was and is such a psycho. Anyway, Sansa sent Littlefinger packing, and now I’m wondering what Littlefinger will plot next. You know he has plans.

The Other Red Woman. I guess all priestesses of the Lord of Light all wear shades of red and age-cloaking amulets. I wanted to ask her, “So how old are you, lady?” Tyrion decides that the people of Meereen need to know that Dany isn’t just the Breaker of Chains, that she’s also responsible for the people’s security and safety. So he decides to invite some high priestess of the Lord of Light to Meereen. And she’s like, “Yeah, I already believe/know that Daenerys Targaryen is the prince who was promised, so I’ll let the people know.” Then she read Varys’ mind and that was the most emotional Varys had ever been. It’s a cool character.

Euron, Yara and Theon Greyjoy.
For once, the Greyjoy storyline isn’t totally boring and terrible! The Kingsmoot finally went down, which is how those people “hold elections” and decide who will sit on the Salt Throne. Yara looked like she had it wrapped up, with Theon’s help and campaigning, and then Euron arrives and he’s like, “Yeah, I killed Balon, that’s why I should sit on the Salt Throne.” And everyone was like, “He’s right!” As Euron is taking part in his king ceremony (which involved being drowned), Yara, Theon and their loyalists escape in Euron’s boats. Which was smart, because as soon as Euron recovered, he wanted to kill Yara and Theon. A few more things: Euron’s idea is to take all of the boats across the sea to Daenerys so that she’ll have a fleet. Euron wants to marry Dany! And even though he’s crazy, he’s also hot (RIGHT?) and that marriage would be interesting.

Arya and the play. This part felt Shakespearean, right? The Man (Jaqen H’ghar) gives Arya one more shot at this whole Faceless Assassin thing, telling her that she will not get a third chance at this. Jaqen also says something interesting about the history of the Faceless Men, and how they were never the children of lords and ladies, and it feels as though… Jaqen likes Arya a lot, but he’s trying to gently tell her that she should not be a Faceless Man. Anyway, Arya’s assignment is to kill an actress playing Cersei in this little play about the assassination of Robert Baratheon. The “Ned Stark” character is played as a buffoon and for a second time, Arya witnesses her father’s execution. But Arya figures out how she’s going to kill the actress/Cersei but you can tell she doesn’t want to. Is Jaqen trying to prepare her for the real thing?

Dany & Jorah. Jorah finally tells Dany that he’s got Greyscale and he asks her to send him away and basically says that he’ll commit suicide before it gets too bad. Dany does send him away… to find a cure for Greyscale. Jorah tells Dany that he loves her, and she’s like “You need to be by my side when I conquer the world.”

Tormund is still hot for Brienne. Come on, Brienne, stop rolling your eyes at the giant ginger snap!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR.

Brienne & Sansa will be separated. Which I think is an awful idea. I was getting used to Brienne-as-bodyguard, and I wish Sansa had decided to send someone else.

Hold the door. This will make me cry. This was the first episode since Hardhome last year where I was out of my chair, standing in front of the TV, praying that everyone would make it out alive. Bran decides to do some tree-touching off-the-books and he ends up getting a glimpse at the ice zombies/White Walkers. The Night’s King touches him and so now, the Three-Eyed Raven says, the Night’s King is allowed inside the Weirwood Tree. Meera is trying to get everything packed up and ready to go when the Raven and Bran go under again, where Bran sees Hodor as a boy again. The White Walkers come while Bran is under, and Meera and the Children of the Forest are trying to fight. Meera is trying to get Bran to wake up, and while Bran is still “under.” Bran hears Meera in the vision, and is able to warg into Hodor-in-the-tree so Hodor can start to help them escape. The White Walkers kill the Raven. They kill several of the Children. They kill Bran’s direwolf, Summer. Meera, Hodor and Bran make it out of the backdoor and Meera cries out to Hodor, “HOLD THE DOOR.” Within Bran’s vision, the young Hodor sees Bran and collapses in a seizure and cries out “Hold the door, hold the door, hold the door” until the words become scrambled into “Hodor.” The Hodor at the tree gives his life saving Bran and Meera by holding the door, which was always supposed to happen.

Pour one out for Hodor, you guys. And pour one out for Summer. I can’t believe they killed off another direwolf AND Hodor in one episode. This is so g—damn brutal.

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  1. lilacflowers says:

    Summer.

    A woman needs the Man to console her over Summer and Hodor.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I couldn’t believe it, both his main protectors gone and Summers was so pointless, like just running into a swarm of Wights and dying in seconds so didn’t even slow them down much, I’d have liked to see him rip a few apart first. Do D&D not like the direwolves or something??

      At least Hodor went out like a total champ

      • Rachel says:

        That entire sequence was just devastating. I haven’t felt like this since Remus and Tonks died. And then, I was deep in mourning for two weeks.

        I was full out screaming over Summer. It’s a good thing we live in the middle of nowhere. With Hodor, all I could do was whimper. It was just too much. Too much.

        I’ve been watching every episode this season 2 or 3 times. I will not rewatch this one. Ever again.

      • Pamela says:

        Hodor died like a hero…but his death felt as pointless to me as Summer’s.

        Even if he held that door for 15 minutes (and it certainly seemed like far fewer)– how far will Meera and Bran even get? Meera is fierce, but her frame is slight and she is trying to drag Bran through harsh, snowy terrain. That army of White Walkers will be on their trail in no time.

        Obviously, having the door held gave them a chance, otherwise they would have died there at the tree. But it seemed so weak to me. I’ll be interested to seen how they manage out there in the wilderness.

        So very sad for Hodor. 🙁

        People on this very board speculated what trauma caused Wyllis to lose his ability to speak other than “Hodor”. So sad to see the truth of it.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I thought that myself, how far can they realistically get with her dragging him on her own? Especially considering how fast the Wights are

      • TG says:

        Summer’s death is symbolic; Winter has officially arrived.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Even my BF who is not prone to dramatic responses was like “this was the most f’d up episode yet”. All the implications of Hodor living his while life knowing he had one purpose, yo die holding that door, it’s heartbreaking on so many levels.

    • Jaqen says:

      A man will oblige. 😛

    • phlyfiremama says:

      I’m not so sure that was Summer~Summer isn’t white, Summer is brown. Ghost is white but he is with Jon Snow (although I haven’t seen him for a few.) Bran IS a Warg, he can warg into any creature and take control of it~so maybe it was another random wolf? (A girl is grasping at straws here~this is, after all, GOT, and not Disney.) My hand was over my mouth practically from Jorah & Khaleesi’s good bye to the last scene.
      HODOR!!!

      • TG says:

        Yeah I kept thinking that was Ghost too. But I was also practically squeezing my eye shut so I just rolled with it that it was Summer.

      • Skywayke says:

        Summer is actually light cream colored with a honey/brown color over the top of his muzzle, head and back.

    • JustCrimmles says:

      This whole season so far has had me screaming at the tv like a proper lunatic. My assumption is Bran and Meera somehow make it to castle Black ahead of the night’s army. Love the origin bit for the white walkers, but will they get in to how they turned on the children?

      • Rachel says:

        My husband said pretty much the same thing. Why turn on the children? But think about it. The children created the whitewalkers to fight the men for them. They’re slaves just like the unsullied were slaves. Eventually the enslaved will always rise up against the enslavers.

      • JustCrimmles says:

        High five your hubby, Rachel, that’s a massively valid point! 😀 Is everything in this series just foreshadowing? A girl has a lot to to about.

  2. Jenns says:

    I…don’t even know where to start. This episode was everything. One of the best, IMO.

    How sad that for 6 seasons, every time Wyllis said “Hodor”, he was talking about his death. That scene was tragic, heart pounding, heroic and the ultimate gut punch. RIP, Hodor. You were a good soul in a world full of terrible people.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      Hodor lived his life knowing how he would die and still went with Bran to carry him, this episode wrecked me emotionally.

      • lilacflowers says:

        And Summer sacrificed himself so they could get to the door.

      • Diana B says:

        So SOOOOO sad. I never cry when someone dies on this show but Hodor truly did me in. RIP Hodor, the breavest of all.

      • Pinky says:

        Like, I rewatched that one scene four times at least and cried Every. Single. Time. Do you know how long it’s been since I’ve wanted to rewatch anything?!?

        I loved that play too. I want to watch it from start to finish. Will someone create it for me, please?

        Superior episode.

        –TheRealPinky

    • JenniferJustice says:

      My fear is Hodor will now become a white walker and a bad-ass one at that b/c he’s huge and strong.

      I also worry Summer will now become a zombie wolf like the white walkers and that ain’t cool!

      Will the two red priestesses compete when they meet? I don’t see them meshing well considering they both think they are the Lord of the Light’s right hand gal. We shall see.

      Why did Sansa let Balish go? Why didn’t she have Brienne kill him? For what it’s worth, I do beleive he did not know how psycho Ramsey is. Balish really does have great fondness for Sansa and he specifically asked Ramsey’s dad to give her a good life because she’d suffered enough already. I do not think he knew who he was leaving Sansa with. Now that he does know, I think he will plot his own revenge against Ramsey. But now Ramsay has the youngest Stark boy and the wild woman who was with him. I want her to take Ramsay down!

      I’m worried Sansa is pregnant with Ramsey’s child but she/he doesn’t know it yet. You’re all going to think I’m absolutely horrible, but this is Game of Thrones – if she is pregnant, especially if it’s a boy, I hope she somehow lures Ramsey to the Kennel he so enjoys luring others to, lets him hold the baby and opens all the stall doors to let the dogs eat him and his heir. Disgusting, but awesome way to end him, his name, and the Bolton throne…in the worst most ironic way possible.

      • TG says:

        She let LF go because she’s not a fully realized ruthless leader yet.
        Wild woman was killed last ep by Ramsay. If Sansa is pregnant, she would actually have some leverage over Ramsay, but since he’s obviously not playing with a full deck, it is impossible to even surmise what he would do.

      • elns says:

        Yeah, I know everyone is keeping each other alive to use later like a tool, but he’s too slippery. She should’ve killed him.

        My thing with Sansa is that she is technically still married to Tyrion right? So doesn’t that nullify her marriage to that other Brute? But she never consummated it with Tyrion huh? crap.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        They have been saying on the show that because they did not consumate, there was no marrige to Tyrion. She is definitely still married to Ramsay. Something major is going to happen with little Stark boy. Ramsay better not torture or kill him.

      • Snappyfish says:

        I think LF did now. How could be not. Ramsey had a reputation. Plus he was marrying a
        Stark to a Bolton Bastard. I remember earlier in the series when the red-haired woman who ran his brothel told Varys of LF plan to take Sansa & that she shouldn’t go.

        The episode ended with the woman tied to the bed & Joffrey shooting arrows into her. LF is a sneaky F & he is the one who started this whole thing w/having the wife kill John Aryan & sending the measure to Caitlyn Stark in the first episode.

  3. mia girl says:

    HODOR. HODOR. HODOR 😭😭😭😭😭

  4. Abbott says:

    I have left over cyanide if anyone wants some for their coffee.

  5. Ugh. Last night got me. I’m semi glad the Hodor death reveal came from Martin or I would’ve been holding out hope for a long time. HODOR forever.

  6. Cate says:

    Good bye sweet giant

  7. Louise177 says:

    Bran and young Hodor confuses me. Time travel always does that to me.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      It doesn’t just involve time travel the way I see it – it also involves prophecy or destiny and a connection to each other (Bran and Willis) before they knew eachother, that they were unaware of.

  8. MrsJonSnow says:

    I am heartbroken :'( Hodor and Summer ! Just when I think that this show can’t make me feel gutted anymore…. then bam….. another gut wrenching episode.

    RIP Hodor ! You were a true hero.

  9. Talie says:

    Littlefinger is heartless, but he’s essentially in love with Sansa — no way he doesn’t make sure she and Jon are successful at Winterfell.

    • Abbott says:

      I kinda think LF would totally try and sabotage Jon’s army so she’s forced to ask LF for help.

      • lilacflowers says:

        Brienne would rip him to shreds and Tormund would help her.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Yes, completely. I don’t think he knew *how* bad Ramsey was but still Roose was there and killed her brother Robb so….how did he think it was going to be a win for Sansa? I dunno though, Ramsey was fairly notorious I thought?
        I think the problem with Sansa’s choice last night was that, to me, she looked like she wanted to solved the army problem herself, by coming up with the solution but was so blinded by her wanting to be the strong one who leads the army, she didn’t confide in the others, you can see how little she knows or understands when Davos tries to explain how people may not fight for the Stark name, and can’t see that even though she rejected the Vale, he was still manipulating her by giving her the Blackfish information and calling the army her “half brothers” army, he saw that she wanted to be the leader and he manipulated it. I really hope she sees this and gets Brienne to skewer him.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        I think LF lied about the Blackfish. He’s trying to sabotage Sansa’s new allies so she is forced to rely on him again.

    • mom2two says:

      I think he’s the reason why she lied to Jon…my thought is he might be trying to pit them against each other…for him to essentially be the decider in chief. I agree, no way are they successful without him in some way and no way do they succeed without the North knowing that they had his help. He might love Sansa, but he loves power most of all.

      • Rachel says:

        He’ll wait in the wings with his army and ride in to save the day at Winterfell.

        I really believe he must’ve known about Ramsey. This is Petyr we’re talking about here. He and Varys ferret out everything. There’s no way he didn’t know how twisted Ramsey is. He may have believed Ramsey to be smarter than to jeopardize his position by subjecting Sansa to his sadism, but I don’t doubt he knew.

        Here’s something that’s been bothering me. Everyone keeps talking about Sansa giving Ramsey an heir. But they must know Tyrion is still alive. Therefore, Sansa is still married to him. Ergo, she is not married to Ramsey and any children between them would be illegitimate. Am I missing something?

      • TG says:

        Nah I think their marriage was invalidated/annulled.

        Re: Ramsay. LF put Sansa back where she needed to be, Home. There’s no way he knew what a psycho Ramsay was, this has been discussed elsewhere. He was a bastard child, so basically worthless, until he proved himself a brilliant battleman and Roose had him legitimized. Why would LF have any clue he was a torturer? I’m sure he knew they were dangerous people (their sigil ffs) but I think it’s a huge stretch to think he knowingly threw Sansa to the dogs, so to speak.

    • Valois says:

      Littlefinger does not really love Sansa. He might have loved Cat, but Sansa’s mainly a player in his game whom he desires because she looks like her mother. He’d sacrifice her if he had to.

      • isabelle says:

        Yeah he loved Cat, and mainly because she knew exactly who he was and still had him in her life. Sansa is more of nostalgia of Cat in the fact she is how he may rise to power. When he said he only had ever loved one woman, think he meant it.

    • Original T.C. says:

      Littlefinger loves no one but Littlefinger. Sansa continues to make dumb decisions by giving him another chance to screw her over. He is trying to sew division between her and her “half brother”. And of course she decides to send her body guard away to River Run leaving herself vulnerable. She has learned nothing.

      • TG says:

        I didn’t see it as a division but more waking her up to the fact that her half brother’s army might not rally for her.

      • Original T.C. says:

        @WendyNerd

        I don’t know where you are getting information of Tryion molesting Sansa or Sansa hating him simply because he is a Lannister. Show Sansa just like show Cersei has been made nicer. Sansa was a spoiled little girl who cared only about fairytale a and pretty people.

        Just like her Mom, she was very mean to Jon and was the only Stark kid to refer to him as a bastard. She barely spoke to him because he was supposed to be beneath her. In an argument she chose Joffrey’s lies over her own sister’s truthful statement. She was the one that sold her Dad out by telling Cersei they were planning to leave King’s Landing to go back to the North. Ned was arrested and beheaded.

        She didn’t like Tryion because he was ugly and to Sansa ugly=bad, beautiful=good. As soon as Cercei gave her some pretty dresses she was back on #team Cersei. Prior to marriage Tryion rescued her from Joffrey’s abuse and attempt to have his King’s guard take off all her clothes in public and hit her.

        Tryion has bad traits, of course. Game of Thrones is more realistic is showing that even the “good” guys have flaws. But Tryion had gone out of his way to show Sansa he is not like his family. If he looked as good as Joffrey, she would have believed him but no, he was ugly.

      • Mrs. Odie says:

        Tyrion and Sansa were married. A political, arranged marriage. Just like Catelyn and Eddard, Robert and Cersei, Dany and Khal Drogo, etc. Sansa was past puberty. She knew her duty as a political wife. “Prisoner” or not, them’s the rules. To frame it as “molestation” and a 21st century perspective is indefensible analytically. Like most brides in arranged marriages between royal or aristocratic families, the bride is technically raped, but once she produces an heir and a spare, the husband will turn to his mistresses and whores and leave her be. This is where the old joke, “Just close your eyes, open your legs, and think of England” comes from as advice to royal brides in England on their wedding nights.

        George R. R. Martin is definitely perverted, and I was disturbed by how much rape he put into his novels. It was more with every novel. Yes, the medieval world was a terrible place to be a woman, but some novelists choose to downplay that. Martin appears to revel in it. I had a student who was openly sexist and misogynist in my 12th grade literature class once, and his free reading book was Game of Thrones. I worried that the book series would cement and develop his already misogynist leanings (he wrote an essay about how women’s oppression was their fault because the allowed their oppression and didn’t stop white men from owning slaves). I suppose I can hope that the better angels of his nature will take flight and he will develop empathy for the abused characters.

        Tyrion acted like a husband on his wedding night. When he saw Sansa was disgusted by him, he refused to rape her. He is literally the only character who would have refused. I think we get to like him a little for that.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      That’s kind of what I’m thinking, because he loved Catlyn and Sansa is Catlyn’s daughter and resembles her, and so sort of *is* Catlyn for him. Doesn’t he have to redeem himself for honor toward Catlyn?

      • Original T.C. says:

        But LittleFinger is not trying to redeem himself to Cathlyn or Sansa. Remember how he lied to Cathlyn in season 1 about the Knife leading her to arrest Tryion and set the Lannisters on Ned or when he lied to Ned setting off the war of the 5 Kings and the death of Sansa’s father?

        He then moved on to use Sansa for his own means. He set her up to marry the son of her own brother’s murderer! Now he tells her that her Tulley Uncle is back in charge at Riverrun with an army. We the audience know the Frays took over Riverrun. She deliberately lied to Jon about who told her this information because apparently she still believes LF is trying to help her.

        This is classic Sansa from the books. Time and time again she trusted the wrong people. Why lie to Jon who has never done her any ill? Same way she was hostile to Tryion who treated her well and trusted Little Finger instead. When has LF done anything to date that didn’t lead to a bad outcome for a Stark?

      • WendyNerd says:

        @OriginalTC

        REALLY?! Tyrion molested her in the books. And she never “trusts” Littlefinger. In the books, she is actively grossed out by him, but has no other choices.

        She never, ever, ever had any reason to trust Tyrion. None. In the show, Littlefinger was offering to help her ESCAPE, that’s why she trusted him at the time. And she doesn’t trust Littlefinger now. She doesn’t even trust him the first time she meets him!

      • Size Does Matter says:

        Tyrion didn’t molest Sansa in the books. He was very kind to her, same as in the show.

      • Sarah says:

        @Wendy it is a bit inflammatory to say he molested her. He tried initiating sex on their wedding night, she was uncomfortable so he stopped. End of.

      • WendyNerd says:

        Yes, he initiated sex by groping her after confirming that she was afraid of him and not letting her cover up her naked body. Molestation.

        Then he went on to resent her for “hoarding her tears to herself”.

        Btw guys, in the books he’s also a rapist who slaps sex workers and threatens to sexually assault and murder slaves.

        Why was she supposed to trust him again? Because he was so benevolent as to not rape her?

        I guess that’s all the “kindness” a twelve year old political prisoner deserves.

        Oh, btw, she did not know about the wedding until the morning of, and she was threatened and manhandled into going through with it. Tyrion agreed to the marriage and never bothered warning her in the weeks ahead of time. Because he is so kind.

        I have book quotes, my lovelies. Not afraid to use them.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Tyrion is a Lannister, his House decimated her House – and she was forced to marry him. Sansa was under no obligation to like him or trust him. She was married to him for the Lannisters to steal her claim to Winterfell. She had no reason to think that he would help her escape KL and get her family home back. He may have been nice to her from time to time but he was still supporting the family that destroyed hers – why is this so hard for people to understand! I get that he’s a fan favorite but that doesn’t mean that every single character has to like him or trust him.

      • WendyNerd says:

        @ArtHistorian

        Because he’s a fan favorite who decides he is entitled to love and decency from any woman he shows the slightest decency to (and several women whom he didn’t). Unfortunately the audience (and the so called adapters) fall for this. Hence the show character of St. Tyrone Lannister.

        But yeah, the Sansa case is particularly disturbing.

        The only reason I can think of for Sansa to lie to Jon is, if she revealed that she knew about it from Littlefinger’s, more questions would be asked, and the Vale army would come up. And she’s afraid if that happens, that she’ll be pressured into collaborating with Littlefinger further and using his army (thus possibly becoming obligated to him again and/or pressured into marrying Robin Arryn). Remember, it wasn’t just Jon in that room. David, Mel, and Tormund were as well.

        As to why she even believes LF about the Blackfish, despite not trusting LF enough to take his Vale army—- which is technically her cousins— despite having ALL THE LEVERAGE SHE NEEDS TOO KEEP HIM IN CHECK (you know, considering she knows that he arranged the Ramsay marriage (and has Brienne and Pod to back this up), knows he murdered Lysa, knows he killed Joffrey) and is no longer under his direct control thanks to Jon, Brienne, and co….

        Well, it’s because the show is horribly written, riddled with inconsistencies so large even the characters are pointing this out now (as Sansa did in this episode, pointing out only TWO of the many, many reasons her plot line last season was painfully illogical).

        Also I guess it’s so LF could pull a “Nice Guy Jorah” and be rejected by the woman he “loves” only to come in at the last minute to save the day with his forces and prove to Sansa how wrong she was to not give him another chance.

        Basically every single male character in this show is enhanced or whitewashed (even the incompetent Ramsay, who is a blunt instrument and minor character who is constantly owned by his father) is made invincible. Except Stannis, who was butchered. Yes, even Littlefinger has a ton of his evil reduced. We still haven’t seen him exploit Sansa’s pleas on Jeyne Poole’s behalf to kidnap a twelve year old prisoner, force her into sex work, then ultimately sell her to Ramsay. Nor is he trying to kill Robin. He’s a manipulating yet doting uncle!

        Even Varys doesn’t hurt children apparently.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        I don’t remember Tyrion ever laying a hand on Sansa in the books, but granted, it’s been a while since I read them. A year or two, anyway. I do remember him protecting her from others, though. Given the givens, he could have been much worse.

      • WendyNerd says:

        Here you go!

        “She could only stand there trembling.

        When he finally realized that she had no answer for him, Tyrion Lannister drained the last of his wine. “I understand,” he said bitterly. “Get in the bed, Sansa. We need to do our duty.”

        She climbed onto the featherbed, conscious of his stare. A scented beeswax candle burned on the bedside table and rose petals had been strewn between the sheets. She had started to pull up a blanket to cover herself when she heard him say, “No.”

        The cold made her shiver, but she obeyed. Her eyes closed, and she waited. After a moment she heard the sound of her husband pulling off his boots, and the rustle of clothing as he undressed himself. When he hopped up on the bed and put his hand on her breast, Sansa could not help but shudder. She lay with her eyes closed, every muscle tense, dreading what might come next. Would he touch her again? Kiss her? Should she open her legs for him now? She did not know what was expected of her.”– A Storm of Swords, Chapter 28

        Like I said, Book quotes: not afraid to use them. Also, “it could have been worse”? Yeah, he drunkenly groped the twelve year old political prisoner as she shivered and held back tears, but it “could have been worse.” He’s SUCH a nice guy!

      • Size Does Matter says:

        I stand corrected. He “put his hand on her breast.” He was expected to have sex with her. That would have been worse.

      • Wendy says:

        @sizedoesmatter yes, it could have been worse, which utterly absolves him of this and makes it not molestation for… Reasons. (Even though, as the books establish, he had a choice about not even touching her at all, and did so anyways after her discomfort and fear was clearly established.)

        “It could have been worse”, so the molestation is somehow not important and not molestation and he is absolved of it. And the fact that “he was expected to have sex with her” makes him kind for merely groping her. I mean, sure, the expectations in no way ever forced him to touch her but he did it anyway, but sure. Stopping at molestation equals kindness now, when it’s a character people really like groping the terrified twelve year old captive.

        (Anyone starting to why this line of reasoning about Tyrion and Sansa seriously disgusts me?) or is Tyrion worship really so great that it’s not considered wrong or molestation because he didn’t actually rape her?)

      • Wood Dragon says:

        The novels’ Tyrion seems to quite different than the one on the show, who has a decent streak. I’ll take the show version.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        @Wendy – the experiences of a fictional character in a made up place can’t be compared in any way to what real people suffer and have endured. I hope all the survivors, fictional and flesh, overcome.

  10. Jenns says:

    While the final scene and Hodor’s death is the top story, I have SO MANY questions about what happened last night.

    The COF being the ones who created the White Walkers isn’t a huge revelation, since that had been speculated for a while. But how did the White Walkers become so powerful. What is the deal with The Night’s King? That was him tied to the tree when Leaf shoved that dragon glass in his heart. He obviously has very strong powers, so when did all that develop? And why are the White Walkers coming now? I really hope we get a White Walker backstory, because I find them fascinating.

    There was also a big foreshadowing moment when Jon told Edd to not knock down Castle Black. Early RIP Edd, the Walkers are coming for you next.

    • mom2two says:

      I hope so too. I thought this has been the show’s strongest episode since Rains of Castamere and the most brutal episode since that one as well. I have not cried at a GoT episode since Rains. Hodor went out like a boss.
      We do need more backstory on the White Walkers.
      RIP Hodor and Summer, Three Eyed Raven, and remaining Children of the Forest (?). I am convinced the show is offing the remaining direwolves so they don’t have to spend the special effects money on them and can use it for the dragons and other effects. I am super worried about Ghost, I don’t think we see Nymeria again in the show.
      I agree, lots of foreshadowing about the folks, including Edd, at the Wall. It’s not good.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Mr Lindy will be devastated if anything happens to Edd. The whole Hardhome episode all I heard was “Edd better not die…where is Edd?

      • lilacflowers says:

        I really like Edd too but I don’t think things are going to go well at the Wall unless Drogon decides to take a tour of the North and samples some white walkers.

    • elns says:

      No! Leave Edd alone! But I agree things are going to hell at the wall. I don’t hold out much hope.

    • Becks says:

      Did Bran warging irresponsibly set off this chain of events? He should not have gotten so close to the white walkers, his curiosity lead to all this tragedy. I’m so upset with Bran, but he really is just a boy and an apprentice. I’ll never get over Hodor and Summer being killed.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      The back story is that the Nights King is a Stark Ancestor~

      • Jenns says:

        I know that has been speculated for the Night’s King in the books, but the show is doing something totally different with this character. I don’t know why D&D gave the show character that name and what it all means. I hope they explain it.

      • Spugzbunny says:

        I though Coldhands (books only) is a stark? Not the nights king. Unless there’s 2 and I’m confused.

        I think Coldhands will make an appearance next episode. It’s the only thing that would make sense in saving Bran unless Jon and Sansa cross his path somehow

  11. Diana B says:

    I can’t believe they killed Summer AND Hodor in the same chapter!!!! I hate them, I hate them all. It was so heartbreaking I can’t even focuse on anything else that happened.

    • Jen43 says:

      I know, right? I couldn’t sleep last night I was so upset.

    • Becks says:

      Last night’s episode gutted me. Poor Hodor and Summer. Those innocents should not gave died 😢😢
      This was worse than than the Red Wedding.
      I can’t with the wolf deaths anymore, I actually shed tears. Great episode, but so so sad and devastating.

  12. Jean Grey says:

    The one-two punch. Summer….. Then Hodor. My heart couldn’t take it.

    Side note, anyone think Yara and Threon may be on their way to find Daenarys first and beat Euron to the punch?

    And Brienne is being sent to the Riverlands. Wonder who she may bump into over there?

    I don’t think a girl is ready to become No One. Too much baggage there

    • lilacflowers says:

      I thought that about Yara and Theon too. They have nowhere else to go, they need a refuge, and Euron pretty much told them Danys was looking for ships. They can negotiate something with Dany in exchange for passage.

    • Jen43 says:

      Great theory about Yara and Theon. I hope you are correct.

      And did Arya poison that actress because the jealous one paid for it.? Are the Faceless Men only motivated by money? That would be disappointing. I thought they were handing out Justice.

      • lilacflowers says:

        She hasn’t poisoned her yet. She was only scoping the scene and reporting back what her options are. And she was warned not to mess up. The scene of Arya watching the play is in one of the excerpts Martin released from the next book.

      • Lucrezia says:

        The Faceless Men are paid assassins, not the Justice League. They kill people for money. Anyone at all … for a price. However, they’re not doing it *just* for the money, they’re a death cult who consider contract-killing a sacrament to their god. (Honestly, I don’t know if that makes it better or worse.) But they’re definitely not the “good guys” in the story, even though individual Faceless may be quite nice (when not assassinating people).

      • Pamela says:

        I am curious if The Man really even WANTS Arya to kill the actress.

        It is no small coincidence that the play she witnessed was all about her sad family history.

        A Girl can’t be No One if she cares for her family still…and she clearly *does*.

        So curious what her story line holds for the future.

      • Jen43 says:

        Thanks for the clarification. There was a lot to digest in this episode. I may have to rewatch it.

      • mom2two says:

        @Pamela, Arya and the play scene is getting overlooked by all the other stuff in this episode-understandably so and maybe unfortunately so…but the play was interesting. A twisted view of what really happened in KL. Arya knows that the portrayal of her father, sister, Joffrey and Cersei were false. Ned is portrayed as a power hungry dim wit, Joffrey and Cersei come across as caring and Ned’s death is an “accident”. Tyrion is portrayed as Sansa’s tormentor when we know it’s Joffrey. So who paid these people and what’s their goal? Pro-Lannister propaganda?
        Is Arya sent to kill the Cersei actress to send real life Cersei a message?
        Clearly, she has not forgotten Arya Stark and she certainly is not No One. Something that maybe Jaqen is overlooking but the Waif is seeing right through.

      • phlyfiremama says:

        What an interesting way they left it~”A girl has made her choice” “A servant doesnt ask questions”. I think Arya just quit that b!t#h, will be gathering up Needle, and making her way back to Westeros with the awesome new skills she learned, hook back up with Nymeria and come fully into her own Warg powers, and start wreaking havoc on the riverlands until the other armies catch up. Oh yeah, and hook up with that cute Baratheon smith boy along the way!! That ties the remaining Starks & Baratheon together, Sansa ties the Vale back in by marrying LF and hopefully murdering him on their wedding night (LOL), Daenarys returns to co-jointly rule Westeros with her only other living relative Jon Snow (and puts Euron in his filthy little arrogant place) with Tyrion as her hand, and her Dragons as her “enforcers”. There. 😉

    • Lilacflowers says:

      And maybe Brienne will run into the long lost Nymeria. Along with Lady Stoneheart

      • Jen43 says:

        Potential Spoiler
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        I thought it was leaked or hinted at that Lady Stoneheart does appear. Maybe just a rumor?

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Wait. Who is Lady Stoneheart?

      • Diana B says:

        JenniferJustice, Lady Stoneheart it’s Catelyn in her zombie form.

      • mayamae says:

        Please no Nymeria. She will only be re-introduced to die.

      • M.A.F. says:

        I thought that when Lena Headey put a picture of stones in a heart on to her Instagram around the end of season three and/or beginning of season four, the show runners said no, she would not be making an appearance because she only shows up the one time and it would be a waste of Michelle Fairley’s talent?

        Then again, they could just be saying that. She could be make an appearance in the last episode.

    • Mrs. Odie says:

      I subscribe to the fan theory that Dany will end up being the Big Bad and not the protagonist queen. Like her grandpa, she enjoys watching people burn a little too much. It is possible she would marry Euron to form an alliance with the Iron Islands. She needs a fleet of ships to take her Dothraki army across the narrow sea. Do we think she would be able to stop the Dothraki from raping and enslaving the women and children and murdering their men in every village they travel through? That is Dothraki culture. If she takes the Dothraki to Westeros, she will bring pain and destruction to the common people (the smallfolk). She will make nothing but enemies. The Starks and the good Lannisters are our heroes (Bran, Arya, Jon, Sansa, Tyrion, and Jamie). I’m anxious to see what role Sam, Gilly, and baby Sam will play.

      And I am on team Briene/Tormund. Best. Couple. Ever.

  13. Sandruda says:

    What a tearjerker!

    RIP Hodor!

  14. Adella says:

    I’m not ashamed to say that final scene left me in tears sobbing. Summer, Hodor and the incredible music by Ramin Djawadi just tore my heart out.

    Also, did anyone else twig to the idea that Sansa maybe pregnant? Her new comfy dress (so much easier to hide a bump) and her comment about still feeling the effects on her body (sorry I don’t remember the exact phrase) from Ramsey’s abuse. I hope I’m wrong or she gets a hold of some Moon tea real quick.

    • Jenns says:

      Ramin Diawadi has been killing it this season. The score adds so much to the scenes.

      The timeline is super wonky on the show, but I think it’s only been a short time since Sansa left Winterfell. I don’t think she would know yet if she is pregnant.

    • msd says:

      That final scene was the first time I ever cried watching GoT. I’ve come close a few times but they were things I knew were coming like Ned’s death and the Red Wedding, or things that were signposted heavily like Shireen being sacrificed … this was soooo horrible and so intense and so out of the blue.

      Props to both Kristian Nairn and the young actor who played young Hodor (he did that mall part so well) … you broke my heart.

    • HappyMom says:

      Yes-there was some weird thing with her dress where I thought the same thing. Ugh!

      • Soprana says:

        AND she had a hard time eating at the Tormund Seduction-fest.

        OMG AND EPISODE 7 IS CALLED ‘BLOOD OF MY BLOOD’
        D&D DON’T YOU DARE.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        Me, too!

      • Lindy79 says:

        Tormund Seduction-Fest, HAHAHAHAHAHA

        My only reprieve on last nights misery was his face when he smiled at Brienne and hers when she looked away. I’m not saying they need to get together but those moments provide a little laugh for me

      • Jen43 says:

        Torienne was the only light part of the whole episode. I need more!

      • Becks says:

        Tormund Seduction Fest!!! Hahaha!
        I wantTormund to look at me the way he was looking at Brienne 😉

  15. Nona says:

    That was so hard to watch. It’s clear that was Hodor’s fate all along, but it was still gut-wrenching. And Summer? That was just unnecessary. I understand that Martin and the show’s writers want to avoid a happy-ever-after storyline, but come on! Can’t we have a little balance here? Ugh. Still can’t believe they killed another dire wolf …

  16. LA says:

    I didn’t understand why the Raven took Bran under right then? He told them to leave then effectively incapacitated Bran. Did anyone understand his reasoning here?… Was it just to mess with past Hodor? I feel like they didn’t need to do that; Hodor would have died holding the door for Bran no matter what. It seemed pretty shoehorned in to me.

    I’m in agreement with Mom2Two about the wolves. They’re going down so quickly and without reason it must be to save money. Too bad really but I recently read every episode costs around $10mil so I guess they need to cut somewhere.

    • Adella says:

      I’m not sure that money is the reason the dire wolves are dying. They are symbolic and closely tied to the story, their owners, and often foreshadowing. Sorry for long post and I’m sure I missed a few points:
      The first dire wolf (sigil of house Stark) in season 1, the mother wolf is killed by a stag (sigil of house Baratheon).
      Robb Stark is called the ‘young wolf’ and Grey Wind is killed by Frey’s men (sigil a grey castle).
      Sansa’s Lady is killed by Joffrey because Nymeria bit him and then ran away. This seems to be the start of when her dreams of being a queen start to fall apart.
      When Bran wakes up from his coma, his first word is ‘Summer’ and after being touched by the Night’s King, it becomes clear that summer is done and winter has arrived. Bran, is called “a sweet summer child” by old Nan, and at one point Ned Stark, states “Summer will end soon enough, and childhood as well.”
      Rickon Stark is very young when he names Shaggy Dog. A shaggy dog story is defined as ‘an extremely long-winded anecdote characterized by extensive narration of typically irrelevant incidents and terminated by an anticlimax or a pointless punchline.’ So I guess we’ll have to see how that pans out as that story is in progress.
      As for Jon and Snow, and Arya and Nymeria, I won’t even try to guess how those stories will turn out as GRR Martin throws more curveballs than Sandy Koufax.

      • Soprana says:

        I think Ghost’s passing will coincide with Jon finding out his true parentage (ie Targaryen-ness)

        Nymeria will emerge and die only after Arya truly becomes “No One”

      • Rachel says:

        I believe that also about Ghost. He will die when Jon becomes a Targaryen. The wolf will be replaced with a dragon. And I will be done with the show at that point. I don’t even care who sits the Iron Throne if Ghost is gone.

      • Adella says:

        I agree. I’m sure that something will happen when Jon finally finds this out. There is an interesting fan theory about Arya and Nymeria, that at some point Arya worgs into Nymeria and finally becomes ‘no one’. She is also named after the warrior Queen of the Rhoynar so she may be part of the battle against the white walkers, in either human or dire wolf form.

      • PortlandJan says:

        In the books, Nymeria was seen leading a contingent of vicious wolves. I’d like to see Arya and Nymeria reunited, and then have them lead their lupine legions into battle on Jon’s side.

      • megsie says:

        Yes, the dire wolves are spirit animals for the Stark children. The pack runt, Ghost, was so apt because Jon was the quiet child in the corner, the bastard boy Cat and others would just as soon have forgotten. And now, Jon returned from the dead, really is in a sense a ghost.

      • Valois says:

        Jon won’t “become a Targaryen” though. Taking the question of bastard or not aside, he was still raised as a Stark, identifies as one and Ned was a father figure to him. That won’t change because he finds out who his biological father was. Being a Stark will remain part of his identity.

      • M.A.F. says:

        Jon’s mother is also a Stark. If anything he would have both by his side.

    • msd says:

      If he didn’t take Bran back to make Hodor then Hodor wouldn’t have been there at all to help them … it had happened so it had to happen, basically.

      God time travel makes my brain hurt…

      • ol cranky says:

        I think, in the end, everything happens because Bran always refused to listed and just did as he wished. He doesn’t learn that his going back and doing more than just observing is what is impacting history; he’s probably what made the mad king mad

    • Sisi says:

      some seem to think that Bloodraven took Bran to that moment to redeem Bran’s memory of Eddard after the TOJ flashback.

      But since Bloodraven was practically omniscient, he also probably brought Bran to that moment because he knew the Bran & Hodors timelines already.

    • Alyse says:

      In the ‘inside the episode’ D&D mentioned that Bloodraven took that opportunity to teach Bran everything he knew before he died.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Yes. He specifically said he was taking Bran to be him (three-eyed raven). Whatever else happened with seeing Willis seize and become the Hodor Bran knew, it is my understanding that all the knowledge of the three-eyed raven was given to Bran there as well. Bran is the new three-eyed raven. Bran now holds the knowledge, the magic, and the raven’s memories. He is the raven.

  17. Giddy says:

    When Summer was killed I was in tears, then the words called out changed from “hold the door” to “Hodor” and I flat out sobbed. I don’t go to sad or violent movies ever, but I subject myself to this show which often rips my heart out. Meera was so courageous and physically strong. Hauling Bran by herself was so hard. Thank heavens for fog! I’m still depressed over Summer and Hodor.😩

  18. Bey says:

    Amazing.

  19. belay says:

    Jon Snow is rocking this MANBUN and he’s completely perfect.
    His new look is giving me lots of things I didnt know I wanted.

    • Soprana says:

      RIGHT? I NEVER had the hots for him before this season.

    • isabelle says:

      Never was attracted to him before when the hair off the face, the man bun is everything. He looks so much better with the pull up and showing off his pretty face.

  20. Sarah says:

    I didn’t read the books and want no spoilers if the Hodor storyline is similar to the books..
    But what’s the theory now with fate/time travel/white walkers? They’re all connected right?
    From my understanding, Hodor was always supposed to die, hence “hold the door/hodor” but what does this mean for the rest of the characters? Pre destined fate? Young Ned could hear Bran. You can’t change the past?

    • Lucrezia says:

      Don’t worry, the show is ahead of the books on this, so there can’t be any spoilers, it’s all just theories. But my guess is: whatever happens, happened. “The past is already written. The ink is already dry.” So, though he can interact with the past and cause things to happen, whatever he does in the past is something he’s always done, so it ends up not changing anything in the present.

    • Sisi says:

      the main point of interest to me is: where do prophecies come from? Are they Bran?

    • Stephanie says:

      I just read an old theory about Bran and the Mad King. Basically Bran is guilty of everything that has happened. And maybe Bran tried to warn the mad king about the white walkers, thats why he became obssesed with burning everyone lol

      • TG says:

        Since the Knight’s King was originally a Stark (if you go by the theories) that makes it all very interesting. I think Bran is going to be little bit more complicated than we thought.

      • Sarah says:

        That is an awesome theory! Bran’s story line is giving me LOST (tv show) vibes, so I’m loving this whole arc. I do worry though, that GoT could fall victim to the “what happened to that/this story-line” conundrum that existential plots often suck out of what originally is an “emotional/human show”. Also, I know people who never liked the Bran or that white walker battle episode from last season thing because they don’t like fantasty/time travel stuff, they prefer the philosophical, religious, character relationship aspects of the show. I like both, and I hope the show doesn’t, in the end, end up sacrificing one concept over the other

      • Valois says:

        No, that is far from being an awesome theory imo.
        Books: Aerys did not go mad because he heard voices. There is not even textual evidence that he heard voices (it just seems likely to the reader). If that was Martin’s plan, don’t you think he would establish the fact that Aerys started hearing voices and his illness got worse, at least in his WOIAF book?
        There’s a specific event that triggers Aerys’ madness. He’s slightly nuts before that, but he was proper nuts after the Defiance of Duskendale. There’s no way Bran could be responsible for this event.
        Aerys’ behaved like someone with paranoid schizophrenia, you can’t cause that anyway. It’s just there and gets triggered.
        Furthermore, if Bran was the only reason why Aerys got mad, why did he behave exactly like so many other Targaryens?

        Show: The could do that, sure. Wouldn’t be the first time they come up with something like that, However, Bran’s behaviour just got his mentor, the COF, his dog and his friend killed. He now knows how dangerous his visions can be. Why would he do something reckless like that?

      • Meera says:

        @ Sarah

        Funnily enough, it is directed by Lost director Jack Bender 🙂

      • Mrs. Odie says:

        The Mad King/Bran connection has been well rebutted. The Mad King didn’t go mad all of a sudden. He was into killing people all of his life. I doubt that Bran goes back in time and sees King Aerys II Targaryan all through his life and talks to him, causing him to burn people for decades.

        But anything is possible. Too bad Bran didn’t go back in time and tell his dumb self to LISTEN TO HIS MOTHER ABOUT CLIMBING!

    • Becks says:

      So many questions about the time travel. Did the Raven know Hodors fate all along? Was Bran responsible for what happened? Will Benjen be the one who helps Meera and Bran out in the wilderness? (They flash backed to him as a boy)
      One thing I know is that Bran is extremely powerful
      , he just lacks the ability to harness all that power. He really isn’t ready, I’m very very worried.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      @Sarah, the show has gone beyond the book’s timeline for Bran, HODOR, Meera, and Summer. And pretty much for everyone else too

  21. maria says:

    STOP KILLING THE DIRE WOLFS!

    Damn! And this is a question based on earlier books so kind of SPOILER!

    Will Bran and Meera meet the dude on the elk now? They can’t survive on their own in the northern wilderness can they?

      • maria says:

        me to (too? english ain’t my first language)

        I was so miffed when they didn’t meet him before. I was really looking forward to it because I want to know who he is. If the children of the forest call him old…. who is he!?

    • Lilacflowers says:

      I was wondering that too. Or maybe long lost Uncle Benjen will finally resurface

      • mimif says:

        SPOILER
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        Benjen confirmed for Season 6. 🙊

      • maria says:

        oh yey mimif! really!? I’d prefer elk dude thou 🙂 hopefully both. But I’ve been wondering if elk dude is benjen somehow…

      • Becks says:

        Yessss to Benjen!

      • Valois says:

        Is he really confirmed though? I’m 99 % he’s gonna show up because of the spoiler I read on reddit (everything was correct so far), but the only confirmation I’ve seen is imdb and they’re super unreliable. They confirmed Benjen last season as well 😀

      • paolanqar says:

        Ah mimif how much i miss you!

      • Spugzbunny says:

        Super spoiler –

        I though Benjen was the dude on the elk (Coldhands)

  22. dAsh says:

    I was out of words after seeing the episode last night. It was just so sad.

  23. Soprana says:

    If Ghost dies this season there is no limit of tables to be flipped in all seven kingdoms…

  24. jc126 says:

    Devastating episode. I was so upset I couldn’t sleep for hours, seriously. I hate that they are killing off direwolves, probably just to save money for the dragons and other CGI. I kind of wish they had never included the wolves in the show if they were just going to murder them. I fear for Ghost. And Summer’s death was so pointless, as were the other dead wolves’ killings.
    And Hodor was so innocent and he’s had this, in retrospect, horrible life.
    Now we know why Hodor always freaked out when things were getting violent, he was probably somehow seeing his death and thinking now’s the time.

  25. Clumsyme says:

    I have watched this show from day one and I have never ever cried. Last night I was sobbing like a baby. I understand what happened but it’s so hard to come to terms with it. 😭

  26. Miss Jupitero says:

    I haven’t watched it yet, but this episode is going to make me want to hang myself with my own entrails.

    Hordor!

  27. FingerBinger says:

    I wasn’t sad about Hodor. His purpose was to protect Bran and he fulfilled his purpose.

    • TG says:

      Really? You felt nothing other than “he did his job”? That actually saddens me even more. HODOR

    • Odesa says:

      Agreed! Hodor’s destiny was fulfilled. I also didn’t cry when the cgi dire wolf died, so I guess I am heartless…

    • Carrie says:

      I found the Hodor storyline so sad and haunting because he wasn’t really given a choice to sacrifice his life. Bran made that choice for him by ‘warging” into his body. He was almost like a giant puppet for Bran to use as he wished.

  28. wood dragon says:

    I hated seeing another dire wolf die! Now there are only Arya’s and Jon’s wolves left.
    And Hodor…..devastating episode. Not even Tormund giving Brienne the glad eye helped in retrospect.

  29. Adella says:

    On a lighter note, we did get a full frontal, full on screen, warts and all. I was stunned for a sec because it happened so fast and had a ‘did I just see what I saw?” moment. Also loved seeing Richard E. Grant!

    • dj says:

      I was beyond thrilled seeing my beloved Essie Davis (Frannie from Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries)! Essie is the actress Arya is supposed to kill for playing Cersei. Does anyone else think the Lannisters are paying the Faceless assassins to kill this actress? In previous episode, Cersei said something about finding anyone and everyone slandering the Lannisters to be killed. Also, she had killed that drunken man for telling a story about him (not the truth) sleeping with Cersei. My theory is that Arya is somehow going to find out that the Lannisters want that actress (Essie Davis) dead and will not be able to do it because she hates the Lannisters so much. Thoughts?

  30. Apple Tartin says:

    First A&E kills off Norma Bates in the Bates Motel finale and now Hodor. God dams this is one shit week for me.

    • FingerBinger says:

      Why post a spoiler for Bates motel? Did you consider maybe others haven’t seen it?

      • amilu says:

        Thank you. Wish Apple Tartin had worded that a bit more vaguely for those – like me – who haven’t seen yet.

    • Lulu says:

      Are you freaking kidding? WTF is wrong with you?

    • Gretchen says:

      Dude nooooooo! I was holding off on Bates to binge watch it later!

    • isabelle says:

      …and meanwhile The Walking Dead gave us a horrible cliffhanger and a bad taste in my viewer mouth. Never getting over The Walking dead finale. Where shows dare to go, they limp into a pond of mediocrity.

  31. Maria_ says:

    🙁 im here for the spoilers (i love them, i need them ) but now im terrible sad ;:'( no more hodor?!!! how can G.R.R.M be so cruel!!!! :'(

    R.I.P Hodor

  32. Soprana says:

    so is Bran the new Ollie?

  33. elns says:

    In an episode that rocked my world: “Tormund is still hot for Brienne. Come on, Brienne, stop rolling your eyes at the giant ginger snap!!! MAKE LOVE NOT WAR.” I clutched this like a child clutches a security blanket. Great quote. Thanks for the happy.

    I’m really terrified that Sansa is carrying a Baby Flay Bolton, thanks to the comments on this post. Ew, guys, ew.

    I’m actually going to need to rewatch this crazy freaking episode because I just remember being really pissed with Bran. I felt like a lot of shit went pear shaped and a lot of being were sacrificed because of his impulsiveness. Am I wrong?

  34. emma says:

    I definitely cried for Hodor.

    I thought the Dany – Jorah scene was way cheesy.

  35. JenniferJustice says:

    This is my theory – I’ve thought all along that eventually the dragons will take on the white walkers because the dragons are the only thing(s) that can kill them – fire!

    I wonder if Bran will worg into the dragons at some point becuase the dragons although useful and protective of Danys, have proven themselves to be completely feril and out of even Danys’ control. BUT Bran could control them if given the opportunity…..hmmm……..

  36. Betti says:

    HODOR!!!! Curse you D&D! But Brienne and Tourmond – that’s some hot chemistry right there. Thou i always thought she’d end up with Jaime.

    Am beginning to wonder if the Raven isn’t Bran to begin with – particularly with all the time travel. Bran has a big part in whats happening in Westeros at the moment, while am not sure he started it all, he’s not making it any better.

  37. jlee says:

    My hope is that Uncle Benjen appears and hustles Bran the F out of dodge. My ultimate fantasy is a dragon appears for Bran to warg into unleashing fire on the undead army.

  38. cobra says:

    Meera killed a white walker. is thr any significance or just the tree trunk(?) she used. jon managed to destroy one using valayrian(sp?) steel.

    • mayamae says:

      I wondered the same and was told Meera’s stick had dragon glass on the end.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      Yeah, I noticed that and my Husband said it must have had an obsidian (dragonglass) tip as well~

  39. D says:

    Did anyone see that the white walkers just sauntered through the ring of fire? Dany’s Dragons can burn the wights, but I think the white walkers themselves may only be susceptible to dragonglass or dragonsteel (valyrian steel)

    • Candela says:

      I personally had my biggest emotional outburst when I thought I had glimpsed Kevin McKidd from Greys Anatomy being turned into the White King. But it’s an actor called Vladimir Furdik. So now I am mourning the opportunity of more Owen Hunt / White King backstory steaminess.
      But truly great episide.

    • tracking says:

      Though only the four leaders, right? The white walker “rabble” had to go around the fire.

    • Original T.C. says:

      Yes, the White Walkers are not hurt by fire, only the wights (zombies). Sam discovered that you need dragon glass to kill the real White Walkers. He went to the Citadel to find out more about their vulnerabilities.

      But since every soldier killed by the wights and White Walkers becomes a wight, Jon’s side will lose better quickly if they don’t have dragon fire to mow down the wights giving them time for dragon glass sword fights with the White Walkers.

  40. Jezza says:

    Thanks to all those posting! I enjoy reading all the plot theories and what you guys think is to come!!

    Hodor broke me into a million pieces. That one really hurt. RIP, gentle giant.