To celebrate Father’s Day, Selma Blair and her ex-partner Jason Bleick went down to Cancun, Mexico with their son Arthur Saint, who is 4 years old. Judging from the above Instagram, Selma, Arthur and Jason took a long weekend – they were in Cancun last Thursday through Monday. On Monday, Selma and Arthur boarded a plane back to LA. And that’s when everything went haywire. According to witnesses, Selma mixed some medication with wine on the flight, and she began behaving bizarrely.
Selma Blair was taken off a Delta flight Monday on a stretcher after losing control … TMZ has learned. Witnesses on a flight from Cancun, Mexico to LAX tell us, Blair was in first class and drinking wine. The witnesses say it appeared she put something in the glass and mixed it in.
We’re told she suddenly started crying, “He burns my private parts. He won’t let me eat or drink.”
The witnesses say she continued, “He beats me. He’s going to kill me.”
We’re told 2 nurses on board came over to help and checked her bags for pills. Our sources say the pilot radioed ahead and told the tower there was a passenger on board who had been mixing alcohol and meds. When the plane landed medical personal boarded the plane and took Blair off on a stretcher. She was taken to a nearby hospital.
My first instinct when reading Selma’s words was… I bet it’s nothing. Not because I want to shrug off those horrific words, it’s just that we’ve all said some crazy sh-t while drunk and/or high. She probably didn’t even know what she was saying, if the medications she mixed with wine were strong enough. People Magazine had more details about this whole incident and beyond too – their sources claim Selma was “happy and healthy” the entire time she was in Cancun, and she got spa treatments while her ex spent time with their son. An official (with the airline, perhaps) confirms that Selma had “taken a combination of prescription medication with alcohol,” but that it was unclear “what sort of prescription medications.” The worst part? Arthur Saint was traveling with his mom! Ugh. This is a bad situation.
Also: reportedly, Selma went into rehab back in 2007, although she never discussed it publicly so who knows? As for Selma being “happy and healthy” during the Cancun trip, the Daily Mail published photos of her where she looks like she’s taken #AllThePills.
Selma Blair looks exhausted as she lazes around on beach in Cancun https://t.co/IxFEJgtMIF pic.twitter.com/l0ktXoSz2Q
— Daily Mail Celebrity (@DailyMailCeleb) June 21, 2016
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Fun! Oh how I <3 crazy meltdowns
*smacks the back of your head, then gives you chocolate to hopefully sweeten you up a little*
Her poor son.
What a reckless thing to do
Does mixing wine with antibiotics cause this kind of behavior? Not depression meds or psychotropics, but antibiotics? I thought that issue had more to do with ruining your liver and blunting the effect of the antibiotics than making people act strangely.
No, liquor + antibiotics will definitely not do this to you.
Maybe you are thinking of metronidazole and alcohol? I believe those combined will have an Antabuse-like reaction, but not behavioral changes. Maybe she took a hypnotic like a benzodiazepine with alcohol.
Or hell,I don’t know, maybe she rufied herself.
I am not saying what she did was okay by any means but it appears that he was also with his father. They all three flew down together & all three flew back together (his dad put up an Instagram pic of them sitting together when the plane was about to head back). I didn’t like that the article claimed they all three flew down together & then left out the dad on the trip back. It makes her look worse (thanks TMZ) and it appears that her child was being cared for by his father.
Thanks for that clarification.
My first thoughts. Who took care of the child while mommy was carted off?
That was my first thought too. Scary situation. Hope she and her son are doing well now.
I don’t know.. I’m not that quick to discount what she is saying. I hope regardless that someone looks into what she could be talking about. It would be a shame if there were some truth to her words and people shrugged it off as just ramblings. Maybe she needs help. And so may her son
I mean she could be hallucinating completely, or talking about a past experience, or talking about a current situation with her ex or a completely different person but there’s absolutely no way of knowing. This is a sad situation I hop she gets help.
I agree… It needs looking into at the very least, and not simply dismissed out of hand.
What really struck me is the statement about not being allowed to eat or drink. She’s gone through periods where she’s almost skeletal. It’s very worrying.
Samtha, I thought the same thing. she even looks kind of frail in those bikini pics.
I agree. Those things were oddly specific for someone just ‘freaking out’. Really scary.
Maybe, but she could also be talking about something she read in a book or a line in a play and it’s coming out in drug speak. As far as not being allowed to eat, she could be talking about how she cant eat because she has to stay slim and confusing it in her mind that someone else isn’t letting her eat. Perhaps her agent doesn’t let her eat etc, etc. She looks completely wasted to me in those holiday photos, I’d be more inclined to believe she’s got a big pill problem.
I wonder if her ex was trying to encourage her not to drink alcohol while she was on meds.
I agree too. Those are some scary words. It could have gone like this: not eating much because she’s weight conscious, being afraid to fly so taking Ativan or something like it, maybe it didn’t kick in yet or her judgement was already bad from no food and Ativan, then having a glass of wine to chill out some more. Plus tense travelling with a restless 4 year old on a plane. Stress of being with your ex. The perfect recipe for a full-blown in-flight meltdown.
I’m not saying Selma didn’t mix pills and booze, but how does the airline know for sure? Did the hospital tell them that? Did they assume because the nurses found pills in her bag? Did Selma tell them that? This could be a reaction to a prescription med (or a combination of drugs), but it could also be other things.
Also…I’m not at all comfortable that her complaints of abuse are being so quickly dismissed. Sure, we’ve all probably said crazy shit while drunk, but accusing someone of physical abuse? Going into detail like she did? That seems a little more than crazy drunk talk.
I’m sure she will be thoroughly examined at the hospital (at least I certainly hope so). The real tragedy is how scary that must have been for her son. Good God.
when I read this on Dlisted last night, I think MichaelK said that there were witnesses who saw her pour something into her glass and stir it up.
and I agree completely about her words about abuse. it sounded scary and yes, could be nothing, but I hope someone looks into it.
I agree completely. I’ve definitely said some weird sh*t when I was drunk but nothing NOTHING even remotely like that.
This is worrisome.
Totally agree. Dont dismiss the rantings of an alcoholic women.people self medicate til the point of addiction when they’ve been abused or mistreated in some form. I remember watching The Sweetest Thing on commentary and how weird some comments of hers sounded.Applegate got supersuper pissed at selma and wouldnt address her after a while. Her rehab was quiet and it’s sad she is not healthy and happy right now.
Also-her skin is showing that saggy alcoholic thing faces do when a person drinks too much.[gigi will have that sag face you can already tell 🙁 ] And she looks strung out in her vaca pics.
I agree, this is concerning!
Admittedly, I have no idea what kind of pills that she took, or what the combined effect of of those pills + alcohol might be. But at my very drunkest, I’ve never, ever gone off track and just made up random accusations about someone, nor has anyone that I know. And if someone I knew talked like this while under the influence, I’d be doing some fact checking afterwards! In my experience, alcohol usually just brings out the truth in people, because they let their guard down. Sentimentalists become nostalgic, repressed anger becomes expressed, and the tight-lipped reveal their secrets.
Yeah, I’m kinda shocked how everyone is just dismissing this as a drunken ramble. Those claims are seriously concerning. That is a deeply troubled mother who’d get the f*cked up in front of her child. I have nothing but compassion for the poor thing, I hope she gets whatever help it is she needs.
I agree. Could be crazy rambling but might be true. It needs looking into.
I mean, maybe she’s taking that stuff cos she’s being abused. Hope her friends are taking care of her.
Oddly enough to me it seems like a psychotic episode where perhaps the “he” was herself? I’m not qualified, but the way it happened immediately makes me think that. It also sounds like she was taking an ambien in her drink. It dissolves VERY fast and mixed with booze it’s a fester zone for CRAZY.
@Little Darling, I was on ambien for a short period of time. Every single time I took it I had mild visual hallucinations – the curtains were moving, the mantle of the fireplace looked like it was rippling, but I was completely alert and knew it was from the ambien. But one morning after taking ambien and not sleeping, I hallucinated a bug outside on a plant, with gigantic eyes. I actually woke up my family to see it and had my camera trying to get a picture. I actually made my cousin cry before I realized what was happening. So something like that can’t be ruled out for Selma.
As to sprinkling a crushed ambien in her drink – sounds disgusting. The only purpose would be if the tablet was extended release, and she wanted the rush. Otherwise, I don’t get it. The only med I’ve ever taken (or administered) that is in powder form and added to your beverage, it a UTI med. And I doubt she was using Metamucil.
That’s what I wondered.
I’ve seen rumors swirling around for some time that she is not well. Even for drunken ramblings her words are highly disturbing. I hope she can get help, whatever kind of help she needs.
She’s been emaciated for some time now…..anorexic level. Mixing pills with booze like that was possibly to get high faster…..there are lots of tricks like that. Don’t believe the antibiotics bs. That’s almost as bad as a Charlie Sheen excuse and many celebs have used that one. I am always surprised that she has so much cash to fly first class. She works but not that much. Always thought she was gorgeous but clearly substance issues remain. I hope she gets help for herself…..how many have to pass from addiction? Too many unnecessary losses.
She worked wth Charlie Sheen. She needs all the pills she can get.
–TheRealPinky
The bikini shots look like bad hangover
Yep, that looks like a bad fight with Jose.
They’re on Mexico right? That looks exactly like a horrific tequila hangover.
Well, I look like that every morning and I’m not even a drinker. LOL!
I knew a guy – a studio exec – who dated her in the early ’00s. He said she was nice but really messed-up. I figured it would be rude to ask for more details.
Very interesting….makes you wonder now huh??
Oh girl, no!
I’m a huge wine lover. And this weekend I started nortriptyline for step one of my fibromyalgia treatment game plan. I went to the fridge and instinctively took out a bottle of wine because it was GORGEOUS out and it was a relaxing saturday at home. Took me a minute to clue in that ‘no Erinn, you can’t drink that’. So I sadly put the wine away. Which is great because I honestly have been so doped up feeling to begin with – I can’t imagine adding something other than caffeine to it.
I hope your treatment goes well, Erinn 😀
But yeah. Wise move remembering not to mix. I was on nortriptyline in my late teens for depression before I found meds that worked for me, and like a foolish teenager I forgot about the mixing meds thing.
I woke up the next morning feeling like I’d been resurrected from the dead, and that was after just the one beer!
It’s crazy how easily meds can be effected – and the weird crap they can do. I had one for depression in my teens (I think ciprolex) and I just… couldn’t stop smiling. But like… inappropriately haha. I had a teacher getting after our class and I’m just sitting there looking super cheery.
Erinn – read your previous post and glad that you’ve got a diagnosis. We don’t really know each other, but I’ve seen you here for a long time. I hope you don’t mind me commenting on your medical care, but when I just read “nortriptyline” I am compelled to write.
Everyone is different- but I took nortripytyline a few years ago for chronic migraines. I am super sensitive to meds, too (perhaps you’re not). Within 3 weeks, after feeling drugged for most of the day, I began to feel incredibly anxious and that anxiety increased by the day. I thought I was losing my mind. After telling my doctor about it for weeks, (she offered no help) I finally made the connection to the onset of the severe anxiety to when I started taking nortriptyline and went off of it. It took about a week or two, but I finally started feeling better. Just something to be aware of. There are several meds, usually, that treat the same condition, so if you run into an issue, I’m sure there is another med that can help. Best wishes.
Thanks Myrna!
I actually have chronic migraines as well and for the first 3 days of taking it I was feeling MISERABLE. I was so looped up feeling. Today I’m feeling relatively good though – I go back in a month, and my Dr said if the side effects are too much before that to call and he’ll work me in. I take them before bed luckily – so most of the issues are when I’m sleeping anyway. I’ve been writing down everything though – because I figure worst case I’ll at least have a timeline of how I feel to show the Dr.
Excellent idea to write things down! Hope the treatment works well for you.
I hope your treatment goes well, Erinn. Good for you for putting the wine away. When I first started taking Lexapro, I didn’t read the instructions because I had taken antidepressants for years. I went out and had a glass of wine and my husband had to help me walk to the car. It was very embarrassing.
Here’s hoping, GNAT. I’m so glad I finally caved and went to the dr over it. I hadn’t slept last night much and I woke up in enough pain that I was almost in tears. I guess it’d be considered a flare up. I popped an aleve and used a bit of A535 and shoved my butt out the door because I have so much work to get done today, and I didn’t want it to be shoved to anyone else. If I feel like that again tomorrow, I’m taking a day to myself – work be damned. People can wait an extra day for something as insignificant as a website.
I had an awful situation a month ago. I’m an insomniac and after some failed attempts to make me sleep, my doctor prescribed me a mix of super strong sleep and anti-anxiety pills. I took the latest dose at night and I assumed I’d be fine to drink a glass of wine the next day (to be honest – I was drinking at noon, as my friend invited me to an early meal ), but I was wrong. The world started spinning, I was hallucinating and it was the worst I ever felt in my life. Luckily, I didn’t make any public scene, just went to lie down in the car. Apparently, you can’t drink up to 2 or even 3 days after stopping with those meds.
@Norman Bates’ Mother… I had a similar experience once! I had taken an anti-anxiety pill before a job interview where I had to give a presentation in front of an audience (ugh, anxiety double whammy for me!). Later than evening, I met up with a friend for dinner — luckily for me! I was away from home so I could have just as easily gone out alone. I had two beers with my heavy dinner and got completely WASTED. I didn’t figure out what was going on until later that night after my friend got me back to my hotel. I had taken the pill so early that morning, I had forgotten about it. Oops, lesson learned.
About a decade ago, I had a very embarrassing, very public reaction to a prescribed medication mixed with a glass of champagne at a wedding. I had checked with my MD beforehand, and he said one glass wouldn’t hurt. WRONG!
Ouch – it’s even more upsetting that it was MD approved! I assume that it’s because everyone is different, but that sucks.
I am on an anti-epilepsy medication that heightens the effect of booze. No adverse effects, and I’m on the tablets for the rest of my life and have no intention of becoming teetotal though I am a very moderate drinker. It just means I have to be careful and monitor my intake, which is sensible anyhow. It also makes me a very cheap date: two gins or two glasses of wine and I’m pleasantly merry! I hope Selma sorts whatever the issue is.
Oh yeah. Years ago I was prescribed pain meds (harmless ones, really) for my back and didn’t think about it at all when I went out that Friday night because for the first time in months I was pain free. ONE drink and I was toast. I may get yelled at for saying this but … it was quite the … pleasant experience. I get why people mix. And now I sound terrible. 😉
However, these pills were really not strong at all so I shudder to think what happens with stronger meds and more booze. I hope she gets help.
You don’t sound terrible. People wouldn’t take drugs recreationally if the experience wasn’t pleasant.
Meh – I can understand haha. Between kidney stones, and migraines and fibro over the years, I can say I haven’t always been as careful as I should be with mixing. I actually had a nurse tell me to go home and have a beer because I’d spent the night in our ER with the kidney stones. She was then like “Well… it’s actually 8am… maybe wait until lunch, but you’ve earned it”.
Threw everything up shortly after haha. Felt great until the nausea kicked in because they kept me on a liquid diet for 24 hours because I was throwing up from pain when I’d been admitted. Pain killers and a beer on a mainly empty stomach (paired with a spicy chicken burger) was NOT one of my brightest moments 😉
I was taking Xanax during a flight due to severe agoraphobia. I had a glass of wine. And a very large chocolate bar (for some reason, because I was feeling so swell). Suddenly I knew I was in trouble, but there was little I could do but clutch those stupid little air sick bags which don’t hold nearly enough while my poor seat mate practically broke the call button. Ugh.
Erinn-One of my best friends has Fibro. I sure hope that you get treated better in Canada (sounds like you already are) than she is here in the US.
Also, I wanted to share this link to the company (Patients Like Me) that my brother works for. You can track symptoms and the effects of your medication with other people who are suffering from Fibro. There’s no gimmicks and it’s free, of course. It’s just a way to share what you’re going through with others who are going through the same thing. It’s a great resource for understanding what works for your condition and what doesn’t, as well as a way to learn more about your disease.
https://www.patientslikeme.com/conditions/8-fibromyalgia
That is so nice, Kitten. I will share this with my sister, who has fibro.
Oh and I’m sure they have Lyme on there too, GNAT, for your husb if he’s interested.
Kitten, you and GNAT are the best. So kind of you to share that link. A valuable resource to just about anyone. Don’t we all know someone who has to grapple with a horrible disease even if it hasn’t yet hit us? Support and education are both critical. Thank you!!
Just Don’t!
I have fybro too and I, stupidly, once, took my pills near the end of my working day since I would have been in too much pain to go to planned outing with the girls. Half an hour later I accepted a drink. It was the best time ever since the beginning of The Pain. And now I have to remind myself how dangerous and stupid it would be. How feeling so good is not worth becoming an addict. But it is harder now that I experienced it.
Wishing you well with your treatment Erinn. *hugs*
Erinn, hope you didn’t mind a little unsolicited advice. My son was on Amitryptaline (similar to nortriptyline) briefly for ‘fibromyalgia’, but he had to discontinue it because it caused him to be massively depressed. BTW, I only put fibromyalgia in quotes because so often there’s another cause for all of the body pain, etc. In his case it was all due to two related conditions (Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome). I had asked his rheum if he had EDS, and she was adamant that he did not – said it was fibromyalgia and gave him Amitryptaline. Fortunately we eventually found the right docs and they were able to give him an accurate diagnosis. Wishing you the best with whatever works for you – I wouldn’t wish that sort of pain on my worst enemy.
I hope she gets all the help she needs. I’ve always liked her. Those pictures on the beach look… not good.
Can’t help but believe that there’s some truth to her rant.
I feel for her since I’ve always liked her, too, and I’m sad for what her young son witnessed.
Hoping she gets the help she needs.
The thing is, if she really was burned where she said she was, should wouldn’t be able to sit as she was. Unless it happened later. She may have been speaking metaphorically in her drugged state. I hope she gets the help she needs and that her ex doesn’t use this as an opportunity to try and get custody of their son. Though if she truly is messed up, it could be the best thing.
I didn’t get the impression that this was something that was currently happening, though. It sounded more like she was talking about something from her past.
And, yeah, now there’s a blind on her posted and while it doesn’t seem to hint that it’s a past issue, I’m beginning to believe she was abused years ago. Or, is that public knowledge already?
My first thought was, this is someone who was abused as a child, and she’s verbalizing a flashback because the drugs and alcohol have lowered her inhibition thresholds. Also, Father’s Day can be a big-time trigger. Maybe that’s what’s going on and maybe not, but I hope she’s feeling better today regardless, and gets any and all help she needs.
that’s a deep and astute observation.
Yes this completely.
Wow. This makes a lot of sense. I forgot it was father’s day. I do think there is a kernel of truth to it because this is not something you make up in a altered state.
Very thoughtful observations, thank you.
I was thinking the same thing. The fact that she says “private parts” is pretty telling, imo. That’s something a child says. I don’t see how anyone can just disregard what she said. To me it was obvious she was probably abused, and I assumed everyone would come to the same conclusion.
This is exactly what I thought. I just read through the comments to see if I was imagining it. I love Selma. She is my favorite actress for years. I hope everything is ok. I want her to be happy.
The more I’m thinking about it, I think it was probably an Ambien she took and she wanted to just fall asleep on the plane. I read a comment @mayamae wrote about her experience on Ambien and I had a similar one, the one and only time I took it the night before an operation. I thought my folded blanket that was on a dresser was alive and it was truly hard to discern reality from fiction. If I wasn’t talking to my friend on the phone who was laughing bec. she takes it regularly, I would have been very scared.
Lol @benchwarmer it’s so funny how medications affect different people. I heard so many horror stories about people driving and doing crazy things on ambien. I literally locked my car keys up in my safe before I took it for the first time. And then I took it and an hour passed, two hours, nothing. I finally got up and started cleaning. The few times in my life that I’ve had to take Hydrocodone, I experienced the same thing. I have anxiety and now I take a low dose of lorazepam as needed as well as Effexor (saved my life!) and Wellbutrin. I’ve had alcohol while on them and the only effect was I drank two glasses of wine instead of three. Wine also makes me get up and clean and do laundry. I think it’s related to my anxiety. Alcohol and low doses of sedative type drugs probably knock me down to normal then intoxicated, as opposed to just intoxicated.
Wow. That does makes sense. I hope she’s not being abused now and can get the help she needs.
Mixing booze and pills on a plane with your little kid. Nothing about that statement is correct. All of these od’s by the jet (pun intended) set, but people always think it won’t be them until it is. She needs to check herself and adjust her life.
When your doctor gives you a prescription ask if you can continue to drink while taking that prescription. Also ask if there are other foods or drinks you should avoid (some medications cannot be taken with citrus). When you pick the prescription up from the pharmacist, ask again. And be sure to read all the labels and pamphlets they give you every time you pick up the drug because there may have been discoveries about the drug’s interactions since you started taking it.
This is great, great advice- you never know.
My dad has cancer and he can’t have anything with grapefruit/juice at all because it interacts badly with one of his medications. Such an odd thing to me.
Many medications for blood pressure or cardiac issues interact badly with grapefruit or orange juice. People who take them often have to change their breakfast routine.
IIRC,something in grapefruit inhibits the metabolism of certain medications in the liver, potentially causing higher than intended circulating levels of the drug. It’s an enzyme thing, CYP something something.
Ask your pharmacist, too, who is much more familiar with the side effects of medication.
I’ve had the impression that she’s had issues for a while, so I really hope she gets some help, for her sake and her son’s.
OMG…her son was with her?!
What she said is very specific…I really hope she is OK and seeks help.
She wasn’t hallucinating. I know from experience and I know what she’s talking about. I wish I could explain more but I can’t; she really does need help and she doesn’t need to be blamed about her son right now. She will need to and be able to deal with all that later. The real tragedy is what happened to HER. It kind of angers me to hear her son watching it is the real tragedy. No. He has a chance. She needs prayer and a lot of positive thoughts and support.
I’ll bite, Kiliki. What do you know from experience and what is she talking about?
I feel sorry for her son, but also have a lot of compassion for her. People don’t erase their past as soon as they become a parent, though of course we hope they’re able to bring the best of themselves and find healing for the rest.
She’s not one of my favorite actresses, but there’s always been something sadly gripping about her. The expression behind her eyes isn’t part of her acting, but follows her from role to role: there’s something broken and in pain. At times it gives her this edgy, I’ve-got-nothing-left-to-lose quality. At others, it makes her look haunted, or, in a desperate attempt to forget, focusing on something else aggressively.
For her peace of mind, I hope she’s able to heal that wound. I also hope the very same for you, Kiliki.
I disagree, I think both scenarios are as upsetting as the other, her potentially admitting she had been abused and her poor baby having to witness his mother in a state like that. If she has been abused (which I’m thinking is the truth here) this is just a perfect example of the trickle down affect of any kind of abuse. You can’t break a human and expect it to never come up again. I haven’t heard of this woman in years, she’s not that popular in Europe but this whole situation is so sad.
This is NUTS! like scary bad
Hollywood’s full of broken people pretending to be ok.
As is the rest of the world.
Right?? And they are looking for validation (love?) in the wrong place!
Literally just mash what Esmom and Elisa said to make the perfect comment. The world is full of broken people but in Hollywood they try to fix it through popularity.
While I don’t want to overreact, what she said is really disturbing and I’m not sure I can forget it.
I feel the same way. I kind of wish we hadn’t gotten the details on this one.
Sorry, but in those pictures on vacation, that look is not exhaustion. That is the look, posture, facial expressions of someone on downers. I’ve seen it a million times. They can say the pills are prescribed all they want, but that doesn’t mean anything. She appears over medicated and zombified….like ready to keel over and got to sleep.
Don’t know anything about her ramblings about abuse, so I’m not going to comment on it.
I feel bad for her son who witnesses her “melt-downs” and I’m sure, not just this one time simply because other people saw it. If this happens regularly or even more than once, Dad needs to step up and do what’s right for the 4 year old.
As someone who just got back from spending the night at the ER with my son who had a psychiatric emergency, a manic episode of some sort, I have an extra appreciation of how hard life can be for some people. Wishing her strength and healing and recovery.
Wishing the same to you and your son, Esmom! I hope everything is okay.
Thank you. Getting better, I think. 🙂
Oh no, Esmom. I’m so sorry. Positive vibes and internet hugs to you ♥
Sending positive, healing energy to your family
Thank you my sweet CB friends. I think it’s going to be ok. This is a kid who has had every neurological obstacle that can possibly exist thrown at him — autism spectrum disorder, anxiety, depression, etc — and he somehow manages to not just function but to be a strong and passionate and funny and kindhearted guy. I am in awe of him even as I am terrified because the brain is such a mysterious organ.
I can absolutely see why people who don’t have access to medical care — or the caring, knowledgable team I’ve been lucky enough to build for my son over the years — and who struggle with mental illness and/or trauma would self-medicate with drugs and alcohol. It’s so easy to judge…and so very difficult to know the real reasons why a person may behave the way they do.
Esmom – Hugs to you and your son.
Amen to your second paragraph, Esmom, and nothing but well wishes to you and your son! He’s extremely lucky to have such a caring, intelligent and informed mom like you. It’s such a precarious thing to deal with and you seem to handle it all with such grace.
Glad you made it through what must have been a scary experience. All the best of luck to you and your son Esmom. *hugs*
Thanks, all. It was scary, an all new type of episode that had never occurred before. But in retrospect I can now see it was slowly building and the triggers have been pretty easy to identify. So he is at a good starting point to adjust what he’s already been doing and get even healthier.
Life can be rough. Some medical conditions are harder to treat than others. It doesn’t take extraordinary strength to deal with them. But with mental illness especially it does take a willingness to face the issues head on, which can be scary, especially when there are moments when everything is fine and it becomes easier to pretend they’re going away all on their own. When you love someone you will move heaven and earth to try to ease his/her suffering.
I hope Selma has people she can lean on and help her through this extra rough patch.
All positive thoughts and energy for you, Esmom.
ESmom,
Been there. If you need just a kindred spirit or someone who doesn’t pretend to understand but rather just say, “I know”, I am there. Lonely, scary, heart hurt place.. but you are NOT alone.
Will’s mom
How do we know this is from perscribed medication? Im not sure but does synthetic heroin (perscribed narcotics) give you this reaction? The only drugs I can think of putting or mixing into you drink would be street drugs, unless someone can provide a clue of what that might be from the medical world? Anxiety? Sleeping pills? None of those you mix into your drink I don’t think.
I feel awful for her but it sounds like her comments could be flashbacks from previous abuse, like someone else pointed out. I hope she gets therapy for her sons sake. Get well Selma!!
Esmom – I hope your son is ok. Best wishes.
People crush them because they kick in faster or to negate the time release layers of certain drugs. It was such a problem some companies make so if you tamper with the pill the drug not longer works. I guess liquid is an easy way to swallow a bunch of powder but that has to be so gross.
I screwed up badly one time and drank while I was on SSRIs which is a no-no. I simply forgot about it and I ended up behaving VERY weird. I was at my husband’s union Christmas party and I became very paranoid that people were talking about me and I became convinced my husband was having an affair (he wasn’t). Totally depressed the next day which completely defeats the purpose of the SSRIs in the first place. I’ll never do that again.
I’m currently on an SSRI and have been for a few months. I drink a glass of wine or a cocktail once or twice a week. I am on a very low dose and I did ask my doctor about mixing it with alcohol and she gave the go ahead. I’ve had no bad reactions. I agree with others that Selma has always seemed “sad behind the eyes”. First thought I had was that it was a flashback to childhood abuse. So very sad.
Yup – I recognize it too. She could have been mixing methadone into her drink, and mixing those with anti-anxiety meds will produce this look. Hope that someone is looking after her son and she gets the help she needs.
I took Ativan on a trip to Cuba (afraid of flying) and didn’t realize you can’t drink alcohol with it. When you get there they give you drinks, and so… I ended up falling asleep in the tub (full of water; could have been really bad), had no idea what day it was and wandered down to dinner thinking it was breakfast and wondering why it was so dark in the morning. I’m not a drug user or an alcoholic. Weird stuff happens. I don’t want to judge in this case.
Yet. 🙂
Right, to me in sounds more like a psychiatric delirium, there are several different cases in my family (paranoid schizophrenia, schizophrenia….). It’s the kind of thing my aunt would say. She sounds schizoid.
She’s not schizoid or anywhere on that kind of spectrum. People deal with trauma in different ways. There is no free ride or magic pill, any kind of healing takes a long time and it is hard. She didn’t choose the route I chose, which is definitely difficult: telling your whole story and crying endlessly in front of professionals my gut told me to trust. My trauma therapist didn’t fail me.
What happened with her can happen to anyone who has a bad reaction to a medication- we all have such different chemistry there is no way to tell until we get there. Fortunately my one (and bad) reaction was in front of my three closest friends in college, one who is now my fiancé. He is a special one, and that is an understatement. He has a heart of gold but chose to self-medicate because he grew up with an extremely abusive alcoholic father who was powerful and terrorized their whole family. He is now a recovering alcoholic, but I can see for sure substance abuse is an extremely dangerous, slippery slope. I knew he was a wildcard back then and didn’t allow any romantic connection despite how deeply I’d already loved him for years. Addiction is a mental illness, but so is anxiety and depression. That is a spectrum I think each of us fall on somewhere, and some of us can get out of it and some of us struggle and some of us can’t make it at all. Selma has WAY too much to handle on her own. She is by no means insane. It isn’t my place to share someone else’s story or secrets, not in private much less on a public forum. (I’m sorry Pix!)
Also thank you for the kind words, Annie. I am healthy but of course go through times when I get extremely sad. I am blessed to have loved ones I trust, and a gut I trust to let the right people in and keep the wrong ones out.
In my opinion one has to be very careful. Whether the person is a public person or a very private one like me, there are endless numbers of curious minds who want to know what happened just because they’re nosey. I want to protect anyone from people like that.
Unless you are a close relative you can’t assert anything for certain, I certainly wouldn’t. I often mix meds and drinks because I can’t be one day whithout my life-saving and mood-keeping drugs, so every friday night when having drinks with my college friends, I mix. So I know how it can make you say crazy things sometimes, but not of that kind, not unless they’re is something more serious, deeper, such as trauma, or illness. Now, she could very well have been abused in the past, and drinks and drugs mixes could trigger such a reaction. Then again, her words struck me immediately as those of someone who has an “inner” tormentor. Mixing drugs and alcohol also tends to dig those ones up, too. I hope she gets better, whatever it might have been about.
I don’t think anything she said or did sounds remotely “schizoid” and I also have schizophrenia in my extended family.
I agree with the comment bellow saying she sounded like the possessed girl in Emily Rose, that’s probably what made me think of a schizoïd episode. It’s not so much what she said but rather how she said it, the present tense etc… It brought up the memory of my aunty telling me how “they” would not allow her to eat, speak up, came in her appartment at night to fumble with her towels and prevented her from getting out of bed for hours. Psychosis is multifaced
Mixing drugs is always bad OBVI. Absolutely qualified professionals should check out her statements and police should be informed.
I wouldn’t jump to conclusions though, as a informal reader. People say and do a lot of crazy things on drugs, many times there is truth in their ramblings and as often there isn’t. I know someone who ripped out a wall in rage because she was convinced her spouse that secret servers in the walls. So, you know, tread carefully.
I feel for her. This is just a sad, bummer of a story. I read an excerpt of an interview with her on the DM (don’t judge me!) and it sounds like she might be suffering from depression. In the space of two years she became a mum to a child that doesn’t sleep and is pretty high spirited, ended a relationship and felt financial stress. It sounds like everything just hit her like a ton of bricks and she’s exhausted. If she is struggling and this isn’t a freak misadventure, I wish her and her son well.
I sure hope she is ok. I met her years and years ago on a movie set and she was very sweet.
My heart goes out to her. I cannot imagine a mother wanting to have a meltdown on an airplane with her young child and her ex.
Hoping you are well, Selma.
The airline should be sued for discussing her condition. It could definitely harm her career. Where was their legal team? What were they thinking?
Spike, probably the passengers sold the story. Surprised no one has posted photos yet.
So sad for her, hope she is OK.
Unfortunately it’s not the airline at fault here, it’s the witnesses and bystanders in “first class”.🙄 People are going to talk- this was an epic meltdown. On a scale of my meltdown and this, mine was a two and hers was a twenty-three. Long-term unresolved issues. She waited and endured hell for so so long. You have to tackle it before it tackles you. Charlie Sheen in no way helped.
@kiliki
Can you please elaborate more? I think you have some insider information on her, her life and this situation.
Perhaps it speaks to the type of movies I watch, but my first thought was her words remind me of the movie The Exorcism of Emily Rose. Now I’m not suggesting she’s demonically possessed, but mental illness or drug-induced hallucinations can cause deep paranoia.
Whatever the cause, I feel for her. None of what’s speculated is good, but I sure prefer someone hallucinating over a bad drug or mental illness, over the thought of extreme sexual abuse in childhood causing a flashback. Since the event was so public, it will hopefully force her to address the issue.
Those pictures are awful. Maybe it is a tequila hangover, but wow, I wouldn’t want to be seen in public looking like that!
Oh goodness, I hope she’s okay. Well, I have a second child after assuming for years my 12-year-old at the time would be my only because nobody mentioned to me the antibiotics I was prescribed after I got my wisdom teeth taken out would counteract my birth control pills, so these things do happen. As for passengers who said they saw something, meh, I’m withholding judgment on that one. I mean, honestly, unless I saw it myself, at this point it’s just gossip. There’s really no telling but I do hope she’s okay and this is a one-off.
I am disturbed by her statement. I had a pretty wild youth and I’ve been drunk/drugged up and said/done some stupid crap, but … that stuff sounds pretty specific, I’ve never said or heard anyone say anything like that under the influence. Plus, like someone else mentioned, saying “private parts” is child’s language. Ijs. I hope that’s not discounted because of what she took/drank and she gets whatever help she may need.
There isn’t necessarily any truth to what she’s saying. Certain pills mixed with alcohol will induce incredibly overwhelming, detailed hallucinations. I once accidentally mixed my Ambien with booze (took Ambien, didn’t go to bed, entered that weird Ambien fugue state and started making margaritas for my ‘house guests’ = pillows I’d stuffed into clothing). I ended up calling my therapist and leaving a message detailing how my father used to rape me as a child. Except he didn’t, because he died before I was born, and I didn’t have a step-father til my 20’s. Not a word of it was true, but it felt true at the time.