Hillary Clinton, #TheRealOne, is officially the first female presidential nominee

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I wasn’t expecting to feel this emotional, especially while just watching the DNC delegate roll call. But seeing all of the state delegates announce their delegate counts and watching Hillary Clinton become the official presidential candidate for the Democratic Party made tears come to my eyes. The first woman… the first woman to ever win a major party’s presidential nomination. The roll call was also emotional because Sen. Bernie Sanders was quietly sitting with the Vermont delegation, and Sen. Sanders was the one to ask that the roll call be suspended and Hillary Clinton be declared the Democratic nominee.

History made. I’m still getting choked up. I can’t believe I’ve lived to see the first two-term black president, and now I get to vote for the first female president.

Continuing the theme of “the DNC’s scheduling is slightly off,” all of the drama happened early in the evening, before prime time even started. The highlight of Day 2 was totally the roll call and John Lewis’s speech, all of which happened before 7 pm.

But the biggest-name speaker on Day 2 was Bill Clinton, former two-term president, Hillary’s husband and the Big Dog. The Big Dog is known as one of the best public speakers in the country (if not the world) and some were disappointed by the (dare I say) low-energy vibe of Bill’s speech. Like, when Bill spoke at the DNC in 2012, his speech was easily the best of the entire convention. For this year’s convention, Bill’s duty was to humanize his wife, tell personal stories about Hillary and their family and more. I think it worked? I mean, people love to listen to Bubba. And apparently his speech was partly ad-libbed. It was folksy and funny and touching.

One of the big takeaways from his speech was Bill telling the convention that they needed to make a choice between the cartoon-version of Hillary that Republicans have been selling or the “real one,” the real Hillary. Bubba told the Dems: “Good for you, because earlier today, you nominated the real one.” #TheRealOne is already a thing!

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  1. Carol says:

    Yay!

    • Megan says:

      Such an incredible and emotional moment. I started crying the minute Bill stepped up to the podium. About 20 minutes in, my husband was tearing up.

      • yellowrose says:

        Holy Crimenas! Are you joking? She is a lying, cheating criminal who has done far worse than several who now inhabit prisons. And her scandalous, affair ridden husband screwing everything that has boobs. You dems need to all move to California and live with Nancy Pelosi on a do-wah farm so the rest of us can get something accomplished to keep the poor from getting poorer. Ya’ll just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and smoking the smoke.

      • Nikayna says:

        @yellowrose I’m stealing this from a friend:

        The GOP currently holds …
        248 out of 440 seats in the House
        54 out of 100 seats in the Senate
        31 out of 50 Governors
        70 out of 99 state legislative chambers
        4 out of 8 Justices appointed to the Supreme Court

        I just thought it is worth noting that the party complaining the most about where the country is heading seems to have its hands all over the steering wheel.

      • SusanneToo says:

        Thanks, Nikayna, but the Foxettes don’t care about facts or statistics.

      • yellowrose says:

        @Nikayna, with a democrat for President that vetoes absolutely everything put forth and then unconstitutionally passes with a signature anything he wants into law. I resent Hillary Clinton being the first nominee because her representing the best in women is absolutely asinine. She is the worst of all of us with her constant and consistent lying, cheating and stealing. I pray she doesn’t represent us as a nation and @ SusanneToo is gulping the koolaid.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        @Yellowrose, in order for Obama to veto legislation that would stop the poor from getting poorer, Congress would actually have to pass legislation that would stop the poor from getting poorer. A review of the congressional record shows they have not. Instead, they have wasted my tax dollars repeatedly voting to deprive me of health care just because I have cancer (no, your taxes don’t pay my insurance, my employer and I do), and refusing to vote on a Supreme Court justice while collecting salaries they haven’t earned.

        By the way, if adultery was a disqualified, well, only about three of our past presidents would pass the test – none of them named Reagan, Bush or Trump

      • EM says:

        @Yellowrose – instead of repeating the Fox/RNC/Trump lines like a puppet try including a fact or two – oh wait there are no facts to base your statement on. “…President…. then unconstitutionally passes with a signature anything he wants into law”. That’s actually funny – had the President done anything that was considered unconstitutional the Fox/Republican zealots would have tried impeaching him years ago. Calling Clinton a liar is hysterical considering how frequently you are repeating lies yourself.

      • Amy says:

        @Nikayna, Facts are pretty awesome, aren’t they?! Thanks for posting that!! So true.

      • i love celebitchy says:

        you and your husband need help

      • yellow rose says:

        @Charles onderdonk ROFL so true! Sadly, there aren’t many members of the Clinton family that are not criminals.

      • Snappyfish says:

        Ok! 1. If she was a man nothing would have been said about Benghazi. Why do I say this? Because there was never any outrage over the 60 American deaths in embassy attacks under Bush. 2. The emails? The ones Trump implored the Russians to “find”. The FBI did retrieve them & read them & Comey based his decision on them. No outrage over the fact Colin Powell deleted EVERY email when he left the office of SOS. 3. She had a private server.. So did Albright, Powell & Rice who ALL came to her defense. 4. She lies. Says who? Fox News & her adversaries over the years? Give me a break this is misogyny at its best. BUT no matter how often she is attacked she just keeps on working

        For children, for working families, veterans & the disabled. She has 30 years of resume to look at. Trump has spent a life working for him.

        Open a book…they hide facts in them. Here’s another fact. I was not a HRC supporter, Bernie made me one

    • sherry says:

      What a contrast – The first woman nominated for President versus one of the most misogynistic candidates I can ever recall.

      The debates should be epic!

      • Little Darling says:

        Trump could not be more misogynist if he tried. His loser speech (I say that because it will definitely not be a “concession”) will be epic. Hillary is BRILLIANT at debates.

      • Pandy says:

        I’ waiting for the cricket chirps when The Donald has to, you know, present a platform. I can hear Hillary outlining her plans and accomplishments and The Donald trying to insist a “hot daughter and (third) wife” is an accomplishment. Hillary will stay classy and eat him ALIVE.

    • Little Darling says:

      I’m excited, I don’t care what the opposition says. I never thought in my life time I’d 1) see a black president 2) hopefully see a woman president. I’m stoked because that woman had to be made of steel to deal with all the BS she’s had to deal with. Whether you call her Shillary, Emaillery or Hillary she’s done it without flinching and she didn’t give up, not in 8 years. And that’s what I want in a President. Unflinching and unwavering. I’M WITH HER!!

  2. Jane says:

    Whether you are for or against Hillary, there is no denying that she made history. As a teacher, I’m looking forward to discussing that with my student come August; especially the girls. 🙂

    • David says:

      Well said!

      • Jane says:

        Thank you @David. It’s going to be such a blessing to explain to the girls how far we have come.

        However, I DO have a quandary; how to explain “He Who Shall Not Be Named” to them. I have the gifted class in the building and they will be pretty savvy to begin with. It’ll be difficult to discuss him making attacks against so many people. This is the time when I have to be even- tempered and neutral in explaining why he acts the way he does. I’m sure other teachers will need to be mindful of what to say to children as well. We have a tough job on our hands with this one.

      • Melody says:

        Jane – I think you’ve inadvertently hit on how to do it exactly. Hermione and Draco run for class president. Hillary has the hard-working, but not always connecting with people qualities of Hermione and Draco resorts to inciting fear and ridiculing.

      • Melody says:

        Draco got as far as he did with inherited wealth that he takes for granted. Hermione works on things like elf rights that no one cares much about. It goes on and on!

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I have been thinking a lot about how Hillary is like Hermione. Sometimes the girls with the their hands in the air in class get a lot of hate thrown at them.

      • Melody says:

        Tiffany: don’t I know it. Hermione is such a great heroine for that reason.

      • Jane says:

        @Melody— You are totally right. I’ll just have to brace myself for that one student who asks, “But is Mrs. Clinton going to punch him out like Hermione did in one episode”? (I teach in a school district with 13 gangs–so there it is).

        I am not a supporter of violence, so I’ll have to say that she will knock him out with good solid facts about her career and what she wants to do to support this nation. She’s a good role-model for being bullied and handling it with dignity.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        I see nothing inappropriate in explaining that Trump panders to the uneducated insecure populations. He used fear tactics with people who already have bigoted ideology – “they” are going to take your jobs, we need to build walls to keep immigrants out, All lives matter, etc. – all used to instill fear and the idea that white people will be oppressed by the minorities if we don’t continue to oppress minorities. As if we’d somehow be squeezed out. People who are already pre-disposed to feeling inferior are very susceptible to fear tactics. It’s the chicken little method – oh no, the sky is falling, the sky is falling (when it’s not) but a lot of people still go overboard without rationalizing the situation first.

        I’d also add that another target audience for Trump is the population of people with low IQ’s. There is a difference between not being educated and not being smart. Pandering to the lower IQ population is easy. You make them feel smart and strong – like they’re the only ones who understand so it’s everybody else who’s dumb. That’s pretty powerful stuff for people who’ve always felt like they’re the dumb ones.

        Trump is a great motivational speaker as was Hitler.

      • Melody says:

        Jenniferjustice: “I love the poorly educated!”

      • MsGoblin says:

        Jane, you sound like a great teacher! Good luck ‘splainin’ the Cheeto raccoon.

      • Ms. Lib says:

        Do a Fact vs Feelings lesson. Have the students research the actual facts of some of the claims being made. Push them to go beyond the Fox news story and do a compare and contrast between CNN and Fox or CNBC and Fox. Have them read portions of The Benghazi Hoax by David Brock (Author), Ari Rabin-Havt (Author), Media Matters for America (Author) and then find out about David Brock. Give a lesson on the multiple meanings of Agenda. Read experts from The Nine: Inside the Secret World of the Supreme Court Paperback by Jeffrey Toobin (Author) who outlines the Conservative Agenda. Have students predict a world where… using the platforms for the Democrat and Republican parties. There are a ton of activities that will get your students motivated and talking. Take advantage of the times.

  3. lkaye says:

    I am thrilled a woman has been nominated for the presidency, just not this one. She should not even be allowed to be in this race.

    • Tanguerita says:

      Oh, puh-leeease.

    • Maya says:

      Yeah right – please do give a concrete with evidence explanation as to why she shouldn’t be a nominee?

      • EM says:

        At this point the anti-Clinton sentiment is Pavlovian based on the last 20+ years of RNC strategy. While terribly unfair, my concern at this point is whether the Democrats have enough time to turn this around in order to prevent a Trump win. I’m just not sure there is enough time because (a) people don’t want to be objective, (b) Hillary is stoic rather than warm (IMO) and (c) Trump is full of one-liners that stick (to those predisposed to BS).

    • cindyp says:

      I get that some people don’t like Hilary but the hate & vitriol is just over the top. So Hilary shouldn’t be allowed in the race but ok for grifter, con man Trump? Ridiculous

      • Pegacorn says:

        Actually both of them shouldn’t be running at all.

      • megs283 says:

        I can’t believe that these two people are the “best” options.

      • Fire Rabbit says:

        And child rapist. Don’t forget the active lawsuit against Trump for raping a 14 year old girl & beating her afterward. There are witnesses too. I’m outraged the media doesn’t cover this.

    • als says:

      But this is the one that got here. She is the one that waited enough, fought enough, that infiltrated the system and got to the top.

      These nominations don’t just happen, they are not given away, people make them happen. No one can deny that Hilary made this happen. And let’s not forget. she wanted this. It is very, very important for a person to actually want the job they apply for, to show they care and are willing to fight for it. And she fought a lot.

      Not all leaders that we like can make things happen, not all political figures want it bad enough. Some, even if they have the charisma and the plans, they can’t make it happen, they lack the political knowledge, the resilience, the drive and yes, the shrewdness.

      Not a big fan of Hillary but I think everything that happened in this convention, her nomination, she made it happen and when you make things happen yourself, not everything will be clean. That’s just life. When you are handed favors by the universe or the people around you, you have more chances to have a sterilized image. If she had been an innocent princess that descended upon us from the sky, she would be a lot less controversial. And certainly dumber.

      But somehow she pulled through and I hope she wins. It would be a big hit to lose in front of Trump and after 8 years of Barack Obama.

      • Kitten says:

        Well said, als.

        The time to whine and moan about Hillary has passed.
        She’s here.
        She made it.
        Moving forward, she’ll be getting my vote.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Wow that was brilliantly said. You are absolutely right Hilary put in the work to make this happen.

      • Bettyrose says:

        ALS, thank you for this post. You’ve articulated it so beautifully. CB is becoming my only safe haven online at this point. The cable/internet vitriol is out of hand. I just want to live in a cave until November.

      • Little Darling says:

        ALS slow clap here. That was FANTASTICLY put. xoxo

      • Tanguerita says:

        BRAVO! perfectly put.

    • Sadezilla says:

      Why’s that? However you feel about her, Hillary Clinton is impeccably qualified for the job. Nor has she been found to have committed illegal acts, if that’s where you’re going.

      • TheOtherMaria says:

        Pretty much this.

        Yesterday morning at work, my colleague asked who I was voting for, when I told her Clinton, she said “that bitch is crooked.”

        Mind you, she has never voted and when I asked her to list one specific example of her shady ways, she couldn’t — I then told her that regardless of my personal feelings about Hillary, Trump was not an option, and that Clinton was guilty of doing the same thing every other politician has done since the beginning of our republic.

        She’s quite possibly the most qualified candidate we’ve had in ages AND the most important thing for me—as a WoC–is who has the power to appoint supreme court nominees, Trump cannot be elected for this very reason.

        Idealistically, we would be voting for a candidate who inspires us but the world is not idealistic, I’m opting for realism.

        We have two choices here, I sincerely hope folks vote based on merit, not party affiliations. Furthermore, ANYONE with the tenacity to say Hillary is a con artist while casting their ballot Trump’s way needs to reevaluate their life choices.

    • Ginger Gal says:

      Donald is that you?

      • cindyp says:

        The Hilary hate is so irrational, I think you may be on to something. Or maybe it’s the Russians…

    • Original T.C. says:

      Hillary:
      -Attorney of note who has worked for decades on children and women’s issues.
      -Former First Lady for 8 years
      -Former Senator of New York
      -Former Secretary of State

      Sanders:
      -Senator from Vermont

      Trump:
      -Megalomaniac claiming to be a successful business man who has yet to release his taxes

      Yeap, I can see how you think it’s HILLARY who doesn’t deserve to be there. LOL. She’s only 3X more qualified than the men. LMAO. #Clinton derangement syndrome

      • Little Darling says:

        This. <3

      • Jess says:

        This – exactly! The Clintons have been investigated more than any other politician in the modern era (probably ever) and nothing has ever been found besides Bill not wanting to fess up about his affair. There is nothing there. But that doesn’t stop people from ignoring all facts and evidence and insisting she’s some sort of crook. She is a politician, yes, but an extremely qualified and capable politician. And far better than a lying, race-baiting, misogynistic demagogue. The fact that there’s even a debate between the two shows how willing a large percentage of the population is willing to go with their feelings over facts. That explains a lot about the current Republican party, of course.

      • Alex says:

        Exactly!

        Additionally, there is only one candidate in the race who is currently a defendant in a federal fraud lawsuit and there is only one candidate in the race who is currently being sued for rape (even though the media won’t talk about it). That candidate is not Hillary Clinton.

      • Cheryl says:

        But isn’t this just it?? Women have to work twice as hard for half the credit. I’m not a member of the Hilary fan club, and I think she’s done some shady stuff in her career, but she is held to a different standard and in a different light because she is a woman.
        She’s tough as nails, tougher than any of those men up there- and I’m with her.

      • Aussie girl says:

        Orginal TC, America is not my country but I really fear what will happen to you guys and the repercussions globally if trump gets in. I don’t have an opinion on HC but I do think trump is egotistical nightmare. The man has NEVER read a book from start to finish and has the shortest attention span. This article is really worth a read:
        http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        @Cheryl

        Exactly. We have to work harder, we get judged more, we have to look pretty and smile and keep a cool head and never cry and –

        I really tried to ignore the sexist aspect to this but I just can’t anymore. I don’t believe Hilary’s political career would have had THIS much judgement and investigations if she were a man. I just don’t anymore.

      • Goldie says:

        @originalTC Bernie Sanders served as the mayor of Burlington VT and was in the congress for years before he became a senator. He was also a social rights activist for many years before serving in public office.
        Hillary may very well be the most qualified, but I’m just pointing out that he has a lot more experience than your post indicated.
        Trump, otoh has got to be the least qualified candidate to be nominated by a major party in years, maybe ever.

    • hmmm says:

      Troll.

    • Ana says:

      @ikaye

      Hilary worked hard for the position to get there. How about you? What have you done? Do you do a lot of public service like Hilary or you are just Trump collecting money by employing small people?

    • isabelle says:

      As Bill said last night she has been create into a cartoon character
      because the other has the most unqualified nominee to ever run for President. She is qualified. Like her or not, she is one of the most qualified candidates, if not the most qualified to have ever run for the office.

    • Capt. Mo says:

      @IKAYE

      I totally agree! I’m very upset that Hilary Clinton is possibly going to be the first woman President.

      Its a huge step backwards, especially for woman of color and feminism. Why is the first female President have to be your run of the mill WASP (white anglo-saxo protestant) from a well-off family who’s husband was President before her. Not saying that her race/religion/family should prevent her from being elected, but as the FIRST female President that’s really the only unique quality that separates her from any other old white former President and its disappointing to say the least.

      That plus the fact she was so careless and incompetent with highly classified government information and colluded with the DNC to suppress the voter’s mandate kills it for me. I was buying into the whole “Vote for Hillary or Else Trump Will Win” schtick but at this point I feel like I’m being bullied into voting for her. When does it stop? What about next election, who are they going to force me into voting then? Let’s skip the charade and go full dictatorship!

  4. Onerous says:

    I, too, have been caught off guard by how emotional I am about all of this. I’ve basically spent the last two days crying tears of joy. It’s a hard thing to explain, but when talking to my husband I said, “You know, as a woman, all I’ve ever wanted was to be treated like a person.” Meaning, I don’t want to be seen as a woman first… I just want to be seen as an equal. I work in an almost all male field, so maybe my sense of that is heightened, but this just feels like an enormous victory.

    And I’m so bored of hearing about how everyone hates Hillary Clinton. We need to stop saying that, if we expect her to win.

    • Grace says:

      “You know, as a woman, all I’ve ever wanted was to be treated like a person.”

      I know exactly what you mean.

    • Tate says:

      The media is also helping to drive the narrative of “unlikeable Hillary”. FFS she is running against a mad man and she is unlikeable???

      It finally hit me yesterday that we have our first female nominee. It was a great feeling.

      • Onerous says:

        You’re exactly right. I read over at 538 a lot and they have several articles about how unlikeable she is. Um… Donald Trump is literally a racist, narcissist asshole who’s made his living by not paying for contracted work. They are worlds apart.

      • Jayna says:

        I have felt the same way about this unlikable narrative being driven to such extremes. There are many people passionate about Hillary, or at the least, don’t consider her unlikable.

      • B n A fn says:

        Thank you for saying the media is driving her unlivable rating up. Everyday about 10 times a day I hear how unfavorable she is. I almost never hear how Donald Trump lie and his unfavorable is higher than Hillary. Right now on MSNBC They are saying she MAY flip flop on TPP, NEVER mind Donald flip flop on every thing EVERY DAY.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        But why on Earth should she be likable? She’s not running for Miss Universe. All this Hilary is a crook got boring really soon. Expecting a politician to have integrity, morals or what not is very naive, if not stupid. Maybe Bernie was the exception, but most politicians are not. But she is qualified for the job, and she’s running against Trump, for God’s sake. How someone can even consider the Oompa Loompa Mussolini as a better choice is beyond me.

      • Alex says:

        A couple of days ago, I watched a journalist panel on MSNBC sit there and yammer on about her being unlikable and untrustworthy, and Andrea Mitchell “trying” to do the “both sides do it” BS said something like “Of course Donald Trump has to deal with, just the uh, amazing things that he says…” They will condemn her for imaginary things, but refuse to do with him with actual things that come out of his mouth.

      • AngelaH says:

        My sister and I have discussed this because I don’t “like” her. As the primaries were winding down, I had to give it some serious thought because I was a Sanders supporter but despite all the crackpot theories going around, he was not getting the nomination. I realized that I feel like I don’t “get” Hillary. After some reflection on it, I realized that I could finally pinpoint it. She comes across as very cold and calculating to me. I am an emotional thinker and she is not. Once I could pinpoint it, I felt much better about it. I have a hard time relating to her because we do not operate the same way. Our brains don’t work the same way. We don’t communicate the same way.

        It seems simple enough, but it was hard for me to sort through all the horrible things that have been said about her and figure out why I was having a hard time accepting her. Since then, I’ve started seeing her in a different light. I don’t want an emotional thinker as president. I want someone that is able to make the hard decisions knowing that people are going to get hurt. That’s the reality of being president. You have to make decisions that are the best for your country and someone is not going to be happy with it. Obviously, I would never be fit to run the country and I have no drive to do so anyway.

        My sister is not an emotionally driven thinker so I started to view Hillary like I view my sister and I was able to see her in a different light. Then my sister sent me a couple articles that were written by people that spent some time on the campaign trail with Hillary. One of them was not a Clinton supporter and he was shocked by the compassion he saw in her in person. It made me feel better. She wants to help people and she wants to be on top. I will take it!

        Yes, the media is not helping, but I think that there are probably people out there like me who don’t know why they don’t like her but just don’t and constantly hearing that she is unlikeable just justifies that in their minds and then the constant attacks she faces somehow become fact. I really hope people can sit down and think rationally about their reactions to her.

        I also know that some of this is because she’s a woman. There are stereotypes of how a woman should act, feel, communicate, express emotion etc. that are ingrained in us and since I actually follow a lot of those stereotypes, maybe I’m expecting her to as well?

        And like so many people, I want to vote for a candidate that I believe in. I want a candidate that inspires me. I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, but you know what? I’m not a child and the world isn’t black and white so some people need to stop pretending that it is. Bernie isn’t some perfect example of integrity and awesomeness! But he’s allowed to have flaws and Clinton is not? Nope. Life doesn’t work that way. She isn’t perfect but she is smart as heck, strong, willing to work with others and more than qualified to lead this country! So I’m focusing on her good qualities and firmly backing her as my choice because she is the best candidate for the job and will nominate Supreme Court Justices that will be better for all of us as a nation.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        @Angela

        Thank you for your comment, I think you also touched on many reasons people struggle with Hilary. She likely has had to shut a lot of herself away from the world after so many years of criticism and judgement and that can come off as cold, but you’re right. We want a calm cool head at the helm and as your friend said I’ve heard in person her warmth does shine.

      • isabelle says:

        “Cold” unemotional people get sh*t done and Hillary like her or not will get sh&t done. She is somewhat boring, safe and very purposeful. She reminds some of LBJ, who is rarely mentioned in the halls of great Presidents but during his administrating he passed a lot of laws we Americans now enjoy, such as Civil Rights, the anti poverty laws and furthered integration. As a southerner he is held the south accountable for their actions. Can see Hillary being along those lines. She is a task person and not an emotional one and that can be very beneficial to this country. Unlike the thin skinned man baby on the other side that gets upset if anyone says even the smallest thing about him ands good ole Vlad because he says nice things about him.

    • Youhatekids says:

      I completely agree! I am always in tears. It’s such a significant event and means so much.

  5. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    As a woman, I’m proud and satisfied to see that a woman can be nominated. I’ll just leave it at that.

  6. paolanqar says:

    I am so happy about this. This has already changed history as we know it.
    Now, can Bill please stop with the bs? We all know what happened in that office and how he has cheated numerous times on who he now calls ‘ best friend and wife’.
    He needs to shut up and let Hilary shine.

    • Sayrah says:

      Yes we know. It’s not our marriage and infidelity happens in many marriages no matter how they began. They decided to make it work and are still together. I believe they are best friends.

      • Mgsota says:

        Yes Sayrah! I don’t get how this is even a topic in conversation.

      • B n A fn says:

        Thank you Sayrah, we hear about Bill’s infidelity every day but never hear about Donald’s infidelities and three marriages. he’ll, one of his wives even accused him of raping her. It’s as if Bill and Hillary are the only people not in a great marriage, smh.

      • NGBoston says:

        Bill Clinton was not the first POTUS to have an affair on his Wife, he just got caught lying about it. He most likely would have been impeached if Congress had ratified the impeachment.

        JFK had his lovers in the White House, the press just didn’t report on it. Also, I could give a Rat’s Ass about any POTUS’s sexual preference or who they sleep with- it is their ability to run our Nation that is the most important qualification.

        So, on that front alone- HRC gets my vote. To this day, Bill remains one of her closest advisors and it’s nobody’s business or place to judge why HRC stuck it out with him. My personal belief is to stay united for her eventual run for office, and because she truly loves him.

      • Lilacflowers says:

        I think the only presidents who did not commit adultery were John Adams, Jimmy Carter, and Barack Obama

      • SusanneToo says:

        @lilac. I’d add Harry Truman unless you know something I don’t.

    • tracking says:

      Marriages are complicated. Bill is a narcissist but, despite his many shortcomings, I too believe they are best friends. And if Donald Trump is not called upon to address his infidelities and multiple marriages, why the hell should a candidate who was not unfaithful and remains married?

    • Tiffany says:

      But that does not negate Hillary’s resume and political career. POTUS married up and he knows it.

    • boredblond says:

      Is that all you think of when you hear him? I thought his telling the story was so genuine and human..thus he was doing exactly what he needed to do..everyone on the planet knows his past..the speech was not going to be his confessional. Why is it no one ever mentions Trump’s famous escapade of bringing his mistress on vacation with his wife and kids..there’s no ‘how did that affect his kids’ just look how well his employee/kids turned out. Bill Clinton’s ‘rating’ is higher than either candidate..I hope he keeps talking..just as I hope FLOTUS keeps talking. For the record, I’m not a registered Dem, and when I saw the montage of presidents crack, I cried..perhaps younger women don’t get it, but to paraphrase VP Biden, ‘it’s a big f’ing deal’

    • hmmm says:

      People won’t give it a rest about Diana, and won’t give it a rest about Bill. How many years ago was that???? He’s pushing 70. His stories were heartfelt. And that’s all you’ve got, some self-righteous palaver?

      And yet Putin’s Poodle gets no scrutiny whatsoever, even for what he is doing *now*.

    • TheOtherMaria says:

      Isn’t that exactly what he did in his speech though?

      Regardless of what happened 16yrs ago, THEY MADE IT WORK, it doesn’t matter what we think nor should it be an issue when deciding who’s fit for office (NOTE: I realize you’re not making this claim, just throwing it out there for those who are 😉).

      He praised his wife for her dedication to public service and to get family, he highlighted her achievements while crediting her for the encouragement and advice she gave him when he lost his governor election–that speech was about her accomplishments, her achievements, and her strengths.

      I believe they are best friends, or at the very least, have a deep respect for one another–relationships are complicated (understatement of the year), but when you truly value someone, when you’ve spent decades growing with someone, forgiveness is possible—love is just funny that way, romantic or platonic relationship be damned, you make it work.

      They did.

    • kimbers says:

      They strike me as “just friends” and not husband and wife in love. Some people are ok with those relationships, while others want to be married with a person who truly is in love with them. Life choices.

      • Bridget says:

        I would never call Bill and Hillary Clinton “just friends”. Those two are clearly partners – in their lives, their careers, and their families. They have been together through thick and thin and have been able to count on each other. It may not be your idea of marriage, but there’s no “just” there.

    • LinaLamont says:

      Yeah. It was cringe-worthy, but, what was he supposed to say? He had to humanize her for those who aren’t convinced.

      Also, FWIW, Chelsea looked radiant.

    • isabelle says:

      Who the f really cares about the bedroom lives of others? I sure don’t! A cheater or not he admires his wife and they have been married for a very long time. They made it work and its very obvious he deeply admires his wife. Don’t care if they are just friend, an actual married couples, a business relationship, its a relationship they have chosen and its their choice. Its so smug to judge other relationship and their choice. This is not what we should be concerned about when electing the President of the United States.

  7. Maya says:

    Ceiling has been partly broken and now it is up the American population to break it completely by electing Hillary in a landslide win.

    Sri Lanka, India, United Kingdom, Philippines and even Pakistan has had female leaders and these countries are not exactly known to be women friendly.

    It is about time that one of the biggest countries is the world shows that a woman is equally if not better at leading a nation than a man.

    I am not American but British Indian and yet I actually felt proud and a bit emotional watching the convention and when Hillary was official declared the nominee of a major political party.

    Yesterday’s and Monday’s speeches from people who actually knows her proved that she is not and will never be the lesser of two evil.

    This woman has spent 40 years (2/3 of her life) dedicated to help others from children to women, all races and creed and all incomes. She has never discriminated anyone because of their gender, race, disability etc and has always seen them as humans who needs/needed her help.

    May she continue to rise and become the president of USA and show future generations that it is normal and acceptable for women to dream to become a president because it can happen.

    • cindyp says:

      Amen!

    • Jayna says:

      Hear, Hear!

    • Lucrezia says:

      I know what you mean about the second-hand pride Maya. I’m Australian, and my response to our having a female PM was basically: “Hey, that’s cool. Now, what’s for lunch?” Having a female US presidential nominee though, that seems ground-breaking. And I’m full of feminist pride because of it.

      I’m not sure why I’m having a stronger emotional reaction to a female US leader than a local one. I think it’s partly because America is so big and powerful, and partly because the Americans are so darn emotional about their politicians – it’s apparently contagious! (That’s not an insult in any way, btw. Voting is compulsory here, so there is none of the upsurge of civic pride that I see in other countries elections. We’re more like: “Oh, it’s election day. I was going to go to the beach, but now I have to go vote. Urgh.”)

      • Maya says:

        Same with me – I wasn’t born when Thatcher became the Prime Minister and now with Theresa May I am just happy.

        But I think the reason women around the world admire Hillary and why they feel proud and emotional is because America is the country of dreams. This country was labelled the land of dreams centuries ago and people around the world moved to this country to fulfil whatever dreams they had.

        For a country like that who has fulfilled the millions of people’s dream of seeing a person of colour to become President, it has yet to fulfil the dream of millions of women have had through generations to see a woman hold the most powerful position in the country.

        Now after 250 years we finally have a nominee and hopefully the nomination will turn into a coronation.

        If and when Hillary pledges to serve the country in her inauguration – women will feel that we have finally made process.

      • Aussie girl says:

        LUCREZIA I was pretty damn proud and elated when we got our first female PM, as was my sisters, girlfriends, father and mother. While I wasn’t to happy on how it was done, never the less I was moved and felt it proud moment for women in Australia. I’m sad and little disappointed that you didn’t feel the same and are more moved by a women being nominated to run another country. I myself didn’t follow politics until it was required learning at uni, it’s disappointing that we don’t learn more about our own government at a primary school level. You may find Voting just something to get it over and done with but My friends and family have lively discussions and debates on our government and are quite passionate about it. Also the displenary I’ve chosen to pursue works with government polices and sometimes challenging them for change. But I do understand that different things stir people’s emotions and you may have family, friends or visit there regally.

      • Bells says:

        Also Australian.

        I think I was lukewarm about Julia Gillard (and am lukewarm about Theresa May now) because neither of these women initially entered their Prime Minister roles after a gruelling campaign convincing citizens to vote for them. They were both foisted onto the people by their parties. It makes me quite sad that Australia’s first female PM didn’t have the legitimacy of winning an election outright to first attain her office.

        Feeling ecstatic about seeing Hillary claim the nomination, though. She’s paid her dues and won it, fair and square.

      • Lucrezia says:

        No particular family or friendship ties to the US, Aussie Girl. But I think Bells might’ve nailed what was missing for me – the campaign. I think it’s the visible fight that tugs at my heart-strings. Gillard and May probably did have to fight for their positions, but it was all behind party-room doors. We didn’t get to see the sexist idiots argue against them and get shut-down/ignored by the large majority.

        Now, I’m not saying that’s a bad thing. It shouldn’t HAVE be a big sexist drama when a woman becomes head of state. But when you don’t have the drama, you don’t have the same emotional reaction.

      • Aussie girl says:

        Understandable, I completely agree regarding how Julia came to be and completely see where you are both coming from.

    • Betsy says:

      Whoo hoo!

    • Umm says:

      Umm pretty sure the UK is not up there with Pakistan when it comes to the awful treatment of women. Thanks for lumping everything outside of the US altogether though, classic move.

      • Bridget says:

        So you missed it when Maya mentioned that she’s a British Indian?

      • mary s says:

        @Umm I’m not sure any country treats its women well enough to get a pass. Some are better, some are worse, but none of them see women as equal.

      • Tina says:

        I gave that a little side-eye too, as we in the UK have paid parental leave, national health care, some (not enough) subsidised day care, child tax credits, and many other programmes that help women a lot, as well as a past and current woman PM. We’ve got a long way to go, as do most countries, but I wouldn’t characterise the UK’s treatment of women as “awful.” Not compared to any other country outside Scandinavia, anyway.

    • nicole says:

      Maya, well said.

  8. Bex says:

    The thing I liked most about Bill’s speech was that, in a way, it was very much the traditional spouse-of-candidate speech rather than the rallying calls he’s famous for. Given his stature, I don’t think he could’ve been more high energy lest he made it more about himself than Hillary.

    I got really emotional last night. God, I pray she wins.

    • Snazzy says:

      Yes exactly! I like that he was jumping into his First man (?) husband (?) role , as would have been accepted if Hillary was a man. So good on him 🙂

    • Kitten says:

      Yes! That’s exactly what I was thinking. I think he was deliberately trying to strike a balance between being personable and engaging but not TOO engaging. To me it seemed like he was hanging back a bit and trying to be supportive while letting HRC have her moment.

      • hmmm says:

        He shone the spotlight on Hillary. No ego there, just tons of support, admiration, respect and love. He’s going to make a great First Dude.

    • lilacflowers says:

      Bill’s job last night was to be the equivalent of Melania Trump, not the equivalent of Paul Ryan. He did a better job than Melania. He also did a better job than Paul Ryan.

  9. Pegacorn says:

    I’m a woman myself and it’s cool that a woman can be nominated. But being a woman shouldn’t be important in deciding. People are so obsessed with the “first female president” that they seem to overlook the important fact of “does she have the right qualifications for the job”?

    But it’s her or Trump. So there really isn’t much of a choice

    • lisa2 says:

      When they showed all the faces of the past Presidents. It was so evident that our Country has a long way to go. No her being a woman should not be the reason she is voted for. But when you realize that every President in this Country prior to Obama has been a white male. When they showed Obama and then shattered the glass and her face appeared. I really teared up. Because in my lifetime there maybe 2 elections that change the cycle that has happened over the years.

      that matters. And I’m beyond proud and excited for the possibility of what this could mean.

      • Pegacorn says:

        A good dramatic music coupled with the best of Hollywood’s cinematography can really go a looong way.

        There really isn’t much of a choice. It’s her or an overgrown ompalumpa.

        Facts are, she hasn’t shown the best decision making skills. She’ll be the first female president, but I’m scared for the country.

      • mary s says:

        @Pegacorn, I am very happy and honored to disagree with you. She’s going to be awesome, and that’s a fact.

    • Chicken says:

      Pretty sure she has the qualified thing locked down.

      • Onerous says:

        Right!? Thank you!

      • Bex says:

        I am agog at the amount of times I’ve heard somebody say ‘I don’t know if she’s qualified’ during this cycle. You may not like her policies, but if you look at her education and her record of public service, I’m not sure there’s anybody more qualified. Obama himself was not a political veteran. And then people are saying this in comparison to Donald Trump! It baffles me.

      • Palar says:

        Ive never heard the “I’m not sure he’s/she’s qualified” line being said about any of the former male presidents or candidates. Smacks of sexism to me.

      • tracking says:

        Yes, such BS to imply she isn’t qualified, as a former senator and secretary of state. The bar is so much higher for women.

      • Ms. Turtle says:

        Right? How much more qualified would you like, Pegacorn? Leave out the 8 years she firsthand witnessed a presidential team at work. Senator, Secretary of State? These aren’t good enough qualifications?

        I saw a tweet a couple of weeks ago in he aftermath of the two black men killed by police, “I never knew how racist my country was until we elected a black president.” I fear the same will happen with sexism if she’s elected.

        No one is voting for her simply because she’s a woman. I wouldn’t have ever voted for Sarah Palin because we share the same anatomy. But this breaking of a glass ceiling cannot be denied. It’s historic.

      • Insomniac says:

        I did hear people ask if Obama was qualified enough in 2008, but I thought that was a fair question as he was a fairly young first term Senator. (I voted for him, BTW.)

        You can say a lot about Hillary, but unqualified? What else can she have possibly done at this point?

      • Tiffany :) says:

        The thing that gets me is that back in the 90s, people said she was TOO involved in her husband’s governorship and his Presidency. Now, they act like she did nothing during this time. It is such insane logic.

    • Sayrah says:

      This is a joke right? She’s more qualified than any other candidate has ever been.,

    • Natalie says:

      A few days ago, I was listening to the audio version of The Audacity of Hope, and Barack Obama touched on the difficulties in his marriage when it came to him following his career ambitions while trying to raise two children. He admitted that as much as he believed in equality, it still fell to Michelle to sacrifice more than he did when it came to planning out the girls’ schedules, making sure they had what they needed, staying home on sick days etc. They were two upper-middle class, well-educated professionals but the gender expectations and roles were still there.

      I believe that even the most pro-woman, pro-feminist man, doesn’t get it in the way a woman who has actually had to navigate society and her own family’s expectations of her even if they support gender equality in theory, gets it and understands what women face when making decisions about their path in life. I think it’s incredibly important that the next president of the United States is very likely to be a woman. Hillary through her own experiences and Chelsea’s experiences, privileged as they are, will help create a more complete picture of some of the struggles of modern day America. I’d pick Hillary over an equally qualified male candidate.

      • Jayna says:

        Beautiful post.

      • Snazzy says:

        This. Thank you

      • Kitten says:

        Nailed it.

      • hmmm says:

        The absolute truth of your post moved me to tears. And yet we delude ourselves that we can have it all, a perfect division of labour, when often we do it all or most of it, still. And are expected to with no accommodation for that very real fact.

      • Iknowwhatboyslike says:

        I want to marry and make sweet angelic babies with this post. So well said. No matter how powerful or successful a woman is, if she chooses to have children, she almost always have to make a choice between her desires and being a mother. Privilege doesn’t negate the everyday choices women have to make and they are judged no matter the choices. Hillary was vilified to when she said that she chose not to stay home and bake cookies and now, stay-at-home moms are told that they do not contribute anything because they do not work. I do believe there are just something that mothers bring to a child that a father cannot – our brains just works differently. With Hillary, I believe more working mothers and society wil be less judgmental towards women who choose their career.

        also, I though the middle of Bill’s speech was long, I actually enjoyed the story of how they met. I can honestly picture them as young law students discussing the problems of the day and forming a plan on how to solve them. Of course, life comes in and horrible things happen that hardens us. But despite what went on throughout their marriage, I honestly believe that they inspired each other and when they married, two people found someone who understood them on a visceral level. Hillary seems to know Bill cold and vice versa…. Not many people can say that and I can’t judge that.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        …tears.

      • susiecue says:

        I’m all choked up! So eloquent and absolutely true!

      • Truthie says:

        +1000. My company’s IT director was recently calling himself a 21st century dad because he was mowing the lawn while wearing a baby carrier. I tried really hard not to spit my coffee over myself.

    • Pegacorn says:

      On paper, her qualifications are indeed impressive. But if you really look at that things that she has done and the things that she caused and the decisions that she made in her political career, it isn’t all that pretty.

      • Betsy says:

        Sweet God. I have no reply.

      • Maya says:

        As I asked further up – please provide concrete evidence.

        What has she done and caused?

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        You just keep moving those goalposts Pegacorn, never give up.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        If you look at her career, it has been very well focused on SERIOUS issues of equality, education, and helping children. How in the world is that not impressive? (I refuse to use the word “pretty” in describing her accomplishments)

        She was working to improve the world from such a young age, and has been so consistent in her goals.

      • mary s says:

        Sofa king…

      • Jess says:

        @Tiffany 🙂

        Like waiting until 2013 to publicly declare her support for marriage equality only because it was politically beneficial to her. So impressive. So brave.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        While some will frame it as “politically beneficial”, I see it as keeping in step with the people she represents. I came around to gay marriage before she did, but is it really a competition? I don’t hold her up to be a saint, but overall, her work and focus has a clear trajectory.

    • Neelyo says:

      Qualified yes, but she’s run a horribly inept campaign which gives me pause. I think on social issues for women and children she’ll be great, but I don’t believe for a second that she’ll change the rigged economy. We’ll be able to pee where we want, marry who we choose, get abortions, etc. but we’ll also all be broke.

      No I’m not for Trump, but I’m voting for her knowing that things won’t change for most of the US citizens.

      • Senaber says:

        You’re right. It takes more than just voting for Hillary to make change. Let’s oust that GOP led congress who won’t debate or vote on any substantive measures the American people want as their outdated and divisive ideals slowly crumble to ashes on the face of a modern America.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        A campaign is not much more than a slow political Miss America campaign. Hilary doesn’t do well with the warm and fuzzies but she does great with the intellectual and serious aspects of a political job.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        She is always extremely popular when she is in a position and getting things done. When she runs for office (when she dares to seek advancement), her approval goes down.

      • Neelyo says:

        @The Eternal Side- Eye: I don’t care if she isn’t warm and fuzzy. What I care about are the missteps and baffling decisions. With her refusal to show the Wall St. speeches, the idiotic statements at Nancy Reagan’s funeral, etc. her campaign has been like watching a slow train wreck. Or Romney’s in 2012.

        With all of the wind at her sails by the time she announced her campaign, this thing should have been a cake walk and it’s been a debacle. You can blame her staff but that’s like Christie blaming his staff for Bridgegate. If there are this many gaffes during the campaign, I am leery of her presidency (but i’ll still vote for her).

      • Betsy says:

        Neelyo, it’s likely she signed non-disclosure agreements for the speeches and as for the dumb slip at Nancy’s funeral, I’m sure she was exhausted from campaigning and wanted to say something nice about her dead friend. The First Ladies (soon to be First Spouses!) is an itty-bitty sorority and they don’t bad mouth other FL.

        Bernie never showed his taxes, either, hacked into Hillary’s server for info, and didn’t live up to his end of the campaigning downticket bargain.

        To say nothing of Trump’s dumpster fire. Recall when he was all but advocating violence at his rallies? And we’re never going to see his taxes, ever.

    • lilacflowers says:

      “does she have the right qualifications for the job”?

      She is the most qualified candidate seeking the office of president, who is not up for re-election, in history. And she is actually more qualified than some who held the job and sought re-election.

      The question is not whether she is qualified; she is. The question is whether you prefer her policies over those of the opponents.

      • Pegacorn says:

        I dont like either of their policies. It’s her or Trump. There really isn’t much of an option.

        Her qualifications only look good on paper. But if you look at her career she’s very inept. She’s not as good as a politician as you think. Are we purposely forgetting that there is a valid reason why she should be in jail?

      • FingerBinger says:

        @Pegacorn What’s the valid reason Clinton should be in jail? I’ve never heard a logical reason why should be in jail. Explain it to me.

      • doofus says:

        “But if you look at her career she’s very inept.”

        you keep saying this, with no specifics. can you elaborate?

      • LinaLamont says:

        Yes.

      • lilacflowers says:

        @pegacorn, I don’t care how good a politician she is, I want a competent executive administrator in the office because THAT is what the job actually requires.

        As to forgetting that there is a valid reason why she should be in jail, you seem to have forgotten to explain what that might be. She broke no laws. If you are going to start in about emails, that is an employment policy situation, not a law breaking jail time situation. The punishment for not complying with employment policies is usually progressive, beginning with a verbal warning. But past practices must be considered prior to assessing discipline and, oh dear, her two immediate predecessors as Secretary of State had the same email practices. And those two started wars.

    • Tate says:

      Ummm….. Hillary is highly qualified.

      • Erin says:

        No, there isn’t. That’s a GOP led narrative I soon hope will die. The Republican appointed director of the FBI stated she broke no laws. Careless? Yes. But in no way does she “belong in jail” and it’s absurd to think repeating it will change anything.

    • hmmm says:

      This is such a ridiculous and dumbed down Trumpistic meme. I would vote for Hillary, but not Margaret Thatcher. There are other women I would or would not vote for depending on their stance. That she is a woman is a big deal as the first female nominee in American history. But yeah, we are all simpleton sheeple

      Why is it that trolls inevitably have no brains, just running on hate?

    • Jaded says:

      @Pegacorn: Ironically I watched the movie “Suffragette” the night before the RNC and it was driven home to me how the Hillarys of the world, going back to the turn of the last century, had to fight such systematized misogyny and violence to get some simple rights – to an education, to vote, to not be considered the “property” of a man, to have decision-making rights over reproductive freedom. In one stroke you’ve disregarded all the long-fought battles these brave women, including Hillary, have had to go through to make your life easier.

  10. lilacflowers says:

    I watched the roll call with my 87 year old great aunt who was sobbing and I teared up right along with her. Her older sisters were born into a world where they did not have the right to vote; their mother did not have the right to vote. She turned to me and said that this November will be the first time in her 87 years that she will have the opportunity to vote for someone who looks like her. It took too damned long.

    Smash that ceiling, Hillary! Smash it to smithereens.

    Also of note: the DNC is currently lead by women of color. Keep smashing until there are no ceilings left.

    • Kitten says:

      Oh man…I’m tearing up just reading this.

      I wish my grandma was alive to witness this historic event. She was the first female crossing guard in Massachusetts and was so proud of that, bragged about it constantly…haha…she would have gotten such a kick out of seeing HRC get the nom. 😉

    • H says:

      Thank you, @lilaclowers for reminding me just how important this moment is. My grandmother was born in 1904 and if she still was living would be giving my father a raft of crap because he’s voting for Trump. Grandma was a true blue Democrat who voted for FDR three times and remembered a time when women couldn’t vote. I’m happy to be here in her stead and vote for Hillary. Not because she’s a woman, but because she the most qualified person for the job.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      My boyfriend and I were watching last night. I was silently tearing up, holding my breath. My boyfriend said, “Why are people treating this like it isn’t a big deal. It is a HUGE deal. I feel like women are afraid to celebrate this because they have been told to be stoic. They shouldn’t feel like they have to hold back. This is really important.”

      At which point I burst into tears and hugged him and thanked him for getting it. I didn’t realize until that point how much I had been holding back, both at home and in public. I guess I have so many friends who were, um, intensely pro-Bernie, that I tamped down on my enthusiasm so as not to ruffle some very sensitive feathers. Additionally, as women we get pegged as overly emotional, so you don’t want to be a stereotype as you are celebrating the breaking of a gender barrier.

      It IS a big deal!
      It IS important!

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        Oh my gosh your boyfriend sounds amazing!

      • Tiffany :) says:

        He’s pretty awesome. I’m kind of unconventional, and he loves me just as I am (and me him). He’s been my “boyfriend” for 15 years now!

      • lindy says:

        I’ve been surprised how emotional I am over this. I also feel like it’s hard because there are so many Bernie supporters (I’m more aligned with him in terms of ideas and policies but also am a supporter of Hillary and love the current DNC platform which seems like a blend of their commitments in a good way).

        It’s almost like I’m afraid to just be openly, completely joyful about this. But holy smokes I really am! I think this has opened my eyes to just how bone-deep the internalized misogyny and sexism is in our culture. And seeing a woman get the nomination feels almost like something I never imagined I would see. I’m amazed.

    • lilacflowers says:

      I’m really sad my father is no longer alive to see this. He was a huge supporter of Hillary Clinton. In 2007-8, he repeatedly made my sister take him to NH primary events so he could be in the same room as her. He did get to meet her. He had to vote absentee in the MA primary in 2008 because he had lost his vision and I had to help him fill out the ballot. He made my nephew verify that I had checked the box next to Hillary before he would sign it. He was thrilled to vote for her then. (He had no problem voting for Obama that November, he just preferred Hillary.)

      • lenje says:

        Oh dear, this reminds me of my own father. He, too, was a big fan of Hillary’s (he passed away 20 months ago). We’re not Americans. so of course he couldn’t vote her (I bet he would’ve had we been), but that didn’t stop him from following Hillary’s steps when she was campaigning back in 2007-2008.

  11. Fat Monica says:

    Hashtag the real one, huh? *eyeroll*

  12. Grace says:

    Is this the year for women in politics? Angela Merkel, Theresa May and now hopefully, Hillary Clinton would form an interesting triangle if she won, kicking bigotry and crazy to the side curb.

    American CB commenters, I wish you the best of luck in the upcoming election.

    • Locke Lamora says:

      Theresa May, kicking bigorty and crazy? This was sarcasm, right?

      • Grace says:

        Ooops. Should’ve checked before I posted. I meant Hillary defeating the orange burn!cake – didn’t want to refer to him by his name on this thread so I put bigotry and crazy instead. Sorry, English is not my first language.

        Theresa May’s problematic standpoint aside, her adversities were equally, if not more, undesirable. This is what the world politics has come to, picking between the undesirables. But, fingers crossed, hope for the best.

    • Greenleaf says:

      I wouldn’t really call it Angela Merkel’s year. She’s getting rocked and her approval rates are plummeting.

      • MP says:

        That’s the price to pay for being a politician instead of a populist. Politicians have to sometimes make hard decisions instead of just kissing the a** of the loud and ignorant.

      • greenleaf says:

        @MP- 67% of the German population is a lot of loud and ignorant people.

      • MP says:

        They are currently listening to the populists voices. They blame Merkel for the problems caused by the immigrants/refugees but honestly what else was there to do? Not let them in? Where would they have gone? They would still keep coming so do you think we should sink their boats or destroy the trucks they are in? Maybe leave all those hundreds of thousands of people in the EU countries they first got into? That sounds fair.

        Merkel did the right thing in the face of a huge humanitarian crisis even though she must have known it would probably blow up in her face. I respect her for that.

      • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

        @greenleaf

        Sounds like about the same amount of people that voted for Brexit, can’t always count on the majority to make good decisions for themselves.

  13. Locke Lamora says:

    Still, too bad it wasn’t Bernie. He showed a lot of grace after the leaked emails. Bernie’s the man. It would have been amazing to see an actual leftist as POTUS.
    I do feel glad it’s a woman. We had a female prime minister before I was born (first one in Europe, if I’m correct), and one recently, so I never got to experience the thrill. And I do like Hilary, the cartoon villain version of her the Republicans try to paint is hopefully not going to work.
    Anyway, she will win right? Is there actually a posibility of Trump winning? I’m looking forward to the debates, she will destroy him.

    • Cdoggy says:

      When Bernie’s brother cast his delegate vote last night, I was tearing up. It was a really sweet moment.

      That said, I’m with her! #therealone

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “Is there actually a posibility of Trump winning?”

      Anything is possible. Facts haven’t matter much recently, so we will see if fact or fiction wins in the end.

  14. Louise says:

    I dont know why I can’t get excited – maybe because the UK is on its second female Prime Minister.

    Hmm, she is elitist and its not like she is a woman out of nowhere. Former First Lady etc and its because of Bill, she is in this position. I will assume crash position, but it would have been nice for a woman to make it not as wife as. I think Hilary is in a unique position.

    • Chicken says:

      She was a senator and the Secretary of State. She went to Yale law just like Bill did. That’s like saying Michelle Obama is just the wife of someone important. Come on.

      • Sally says:

        After having been First Lady… it’s not like that position didn’t give her notoriety with voters in NY. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging her talents but downplaying the in-built credit of the Clinton years is disingenuous.
        Same with Michele.They both had eight years in the White House to craft a public image. Doesn’t take anything away from them. It’s a fact and a perk of being the First Lady.

      • Pegacorn says:

        And what did she do when she was the Secretary? Hello, she made Isis happen

      • FingerBinger says:

        Pegacorn George W Bush made Isis happen. Thanks for playing.

      • Merritt says:

        @Sally

        And both Hillary and Michelle are probably far more qualified than their husbands.

        @Pegacorn

        All you seem t o do is list off right wing lies that have been debunked.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        LOL, “she made isis happen”.

        Yeah, no. The power vacuum that opened up when Saddam Hussein was removed, which ignited sectarian anger between Sunni, Shiite and Kurds, is what started Isis. The Sunnis and Saddam’s Baathist Party joined the formation of ISIS.

      • Bridget says:

        @pegacorn: lots of claims, yet not a single supporting fact. If you think Hillary Clinton is responsible for ISIS I’d suggest reading something other than Fox News.

      • Jess says:

        @Fingerbinger @Tiffany

        Uh she VOTED for the Iraq war and supported George Bush so yes, she is partly responsible for turmoil in the middle east. Her enthusiastic support of the expansion of drone warfare, which kills 10 civilians for every 1 militant, might be viewed as interventionist, and in fact, might be cited as one of the main factors in the formation of ISIS, and whatever other terror cells are in the works right now. She also personally championed military intervention in Libya, which turned into an unmitigated nightmare that benefited ISIS more than anyone else.

        What is especially infuriating is that she never learned a lesson from that Iraq vote and still, to this day, takes the advice of those who routinely advocate for wars. She even bragged about the support of Kissinger during one of the debates.

        I know the truth is hard to hear for Hillary supporters but no matter how hard you try to whitewash her past, her record shows that she is war-hawk. Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.

        And before you smear me with “hurr durr you’re a right wing trump supporter” let me just state that I’m actually going to vote her her (since the alternative is that POS Trump).

      • Bridget says:

        @Jess: as much as I wished that more of our elected officials had the backbone to vote against the Iraq War, I remember the political climate at the time. There was SUCH a groundswell of support for that action, it was ‘Un-American’ to question it. It was truly one of the worst decisions at the time, but it was also one that was very strongly backed by the American people (not this one, but I was very much in the minority at the time). I don’t disagree with the statement that Hillary is a hawk, merely remember that Hillary was representing the wishes of her constituency when it came to the Iraq War.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Jess, “hurr durr” is SO helpful in a productive conversation. Thank you for your contribution.

        Yes, she voted for the Iraq war. Do you remember how loudly the Bush Administration was proclaiming that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction? Me and my fully liberal self was terrified that we were going to be attacked and I reluctantly supported the war too. Legislative decisions are also impacted by what goes on behind the scenes at the White House and Congress, and the picture being painted by the Bush Administration was horrific. Even the wise Colin Powell was roped into it. “Weapons of Mass Destruction” was used so frequently, it became the abbreviation WMDs. That is how frequently they used massive casualties as a consequence of not going to war. This misinformation also fooled other leaders around the globe.

        I am glad you brought up Libya. Because we have two sides of similar situations that played out, with two different outcomes that were both completely unsatisfying. In Libya, you had a ruler who was killing his citizens. In Syria, you have a ruler who was killing his citizens. In Libya, we took the ruler out…which lead to problems. In Syria, we didn’t take the leader out…which has lead to problems. Massive civilian casualties in both situations. These are unwinnable scenarios. There is no “good” answer.

    • Maya says:

      You should read up of both Hillary life story – SHE was the one who made him become a president.

      SHE is the one who knew that she couldn’t become a president herself at that time but her husband could.

      SHE was the one who knew that she had to bite her time and work hard until America was ready for the first female President.

      • Sadezilla says:

        @Maya, I just read her Wikipedia page, and it was pretty darn impressive. She has accomplished a lot in her lifetime.

        ETA: and I sincerely hope she’s not done yet!

      • Erin says:

        GBH made Isis happen, it had nothing to do with Hillary. She, along with President Obama was left to clean up the mess he made of our country and others.

      • Jess says:

        @Erin

        It has nothing to do with Hillary? Why did she vote for the Iraq war then?

      • Bells says:

        @Jess: wasn’t New York the most affected state in the 9/11 bombings? As a senator of New York at time, how do you think it would’ve gone over if she hadn’t? And as others have said, the political climate during that era seemed extremely suffocating if you resisted Bush’s warmongering.

    • MP says:

      Maybe that is what it took to be the first woman to even be seriously considered? To be in a special position as a previous first lady.
      We live in a very chauvinistic world and women are obviously not given chances as easily as men.
      Maybe after Hillary is elected the next woman doesn’t have to be in a “special position” anymore since people might actually start considering women as candidates.

    • Jessa Blessa says:

      Are you saying she’s just a “wife” ? Her policy is reflected in policies made by her husband when he was in power. She married her equal. She fought hard for this nomination. She endured ridicule and gross invasion of her private and business affairs for the better part of 30 years. She is stronger than I am as I would have said “no thank you” a long time ago. I may not agree with her policies but she is one seriously tenacious woman. She is the Democratic nominee for President of the United States on her own merit.

    • lilacflowers says:

      “She is an elitist.”

      You do not find many elitists working in Legal Aid/Legal Services offices.

      • Pegacorn says:

        Lol that’s not accurate at all. You can find elitist doing that actually. It’s good PR

      • lilacflowers says:

        Really? I worked at a Legal Services office, not an elitist in sight and we did no PR. But hey, you would know better I’m sure.

    • SusanneToo says:

      I think it can also be said that Bill got as far as he did because of Hillary. She has always been his equal.

    • hmmm says:

      Way to relegate the woman back to invisibility and negate her accomplishments. It’s time to get that magical thinking out of the 1950’s and join the real world. Only the followers of Putin’s Poodle and his party are that delusional.

  15. Jayna says:

    I was so emotional. Bill’s speech was amazing in that it showed the human Hillary, not the caricature of Hillary that the Republicans love to over and over put out there until people believe it. Why? They hated a strong, independent wife of a President back then tackling non-traditional roles, like leading health care reform that at that time was frightening to many. And they knew she was a formidable opponent for POTUS and wanted her out.

    He told the world all that Hillary had accomplished while weaving it in with their lives together as a couple. This was huge. I see so many people online saying they never knew all that Hillary had accomplished from a young law student on, Their admiration for her grew exponentially,

    #RockOnHillary #TheRealOne

  16. A. Key says:

    I was hoping for Sanders early on, but now there’s really not much of a choice left. Love her or hate her, no one can deny she’s a way better choice than Trump so here’s hoping Muerica doesn’t dig itself an even bigger hole come winter.

    • hmmm says:

      The little orange man and his party would welcome you. He thrives on false equivalencies. The media have done a great job of brainwashing people into thinking this way. Choosing between a fascist and an accomplished progressive politician endorsed by Sanders, so hard.

  17. Senaber says:

    I teared up when I heard the delegate say she was born in 1929 and never thought she would live to see a woman president. Im so glad my daughter will never have to feel like that. Anything, baby, you can be anything.

    And if you are so uninformed to think Hillary is unqualified or a crook, go ahead and vote for Drumpf. Lord knows he’s got a solid diplomatic background and no whiff of scandal like not releasing his tax returns, getting sued hundreds of times, and receiving political help from vladamir Putin. Oh wait.

  18. Luca76 says:

    I’m really proud of Hillary is she perfect? Nope but neither is Obama, Bernie Sanders or any politician or person on this earth. What she is-A good leader who did a lot of fundamental and good work in so many different roles in service to the country. I especially appreciate her work as the Senator from NY. She isn’t Lucifer as the other side would have you believe and if you go ahead and parrot the bizarre rhetoric they’ve spread about her without doing research I really pity your ignorance. She’s withstood character assassination for decades and they can’t take her down for a reason You don’t have to vote for her or even like her but she deserves so much more respect.

    • hmmm says:

      Like Bill said, she’s been made a cartoon character because they fear her, she is a huge threat. And I might add, it’s because she’s a woman and they don’t want any little woman ruling over them, because, humiliating. They’re still raging about the black guy who doesn’t know his place. I want to see heads exploding when she’s sworn in as President.

  19. dodgy says:

    Congratulations to Hillary Clinton.

  20. Sahra says:

    If this election doesn’t prove the need for an end to the 2 party system, I don’t know what does. Other countries wouldn’t let a Hillary get this far in the election cycle with so much serious baggage and I am disgusted by the rigged DNC that put her in this position when other candidates would garner more support all around without the drama. My conscience and integrity won’t allow me to vote for her.

    • silverunicorn says:

      It depends what you mean by other countries. I hope you don’t mean UK where the whole government resigned after a referendum… or Italy, with a PM (Berlusconi) who was indicted so many times that the Italians lost count of them… or Sarkozy… I can continue, if you like…

      • Cdoggy says:

        Preach!

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Our former Prime Minister just got out of jail for corruption last year. This happens in every country.

        Wanna hear a shit show of a general election? We had an election a year ago and no one got majority. So there were negotiations for a month. The 3rd party agreed to form a coalition with the biggest centre left party. Then after a day they changed their mind and formed a coalition with the biggest centre right party. They decided to have a non-partisan expert Prime Minister. So the first time we saw or heard about our Prime Minister was on the day he bacame prime minister. The guy moved to Canada when he was 2 years old and his grasp over our language is shaky. In his first speech he mistook the words for citizen ( građanin) and building ( građevina). So he kept saying how our buildings will prosper. Things are going so well, in fact, we’re having a new general election in September. A satire TV show couldn’t come up with this plot.
        I do have to say, after the shit show in the UK, at least I don’t feel as alone.

      • Saks says:

        Hey LOCKE, I think my country would win in the dumbest elections ever. Just read:

        So, after a 72 years government of a dictatorial, super corrupt, murderer centre-right party, we got to have democratic elections, people chose the dumber of the lot, Vicente Fox, because he had a catchy phrase and because he said stupid things (Trump actually reminds me of him). After him, the left candidate was victim of a fraud and the right candidate who “won”, was the one who unleashed all that Narco violence.
        And here comes the real mess: So what did people do in the next election? They voted for the dictatorial, super corrupt, murderer centre-right party AGAIN! Now we are stuck with a useless president and Narco violence.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Yeah, Saks, you win. Narco violence sounds much worse than a prime m inister who isn’t fluent in his native language. If there’s one thing I am grateful for, is the fact that my country is super safe.

    • Lynnie says:

      You should read the DNC threads from yesterday, actually READ the DNC emails that were TALKING about what to do if Bernie got the nom (which he was so far away from getting it’s not even funny), and READ accounts from people who will be affected by people throwing away their votes because of “conscience and integrity.” If Trump wins, what will your conscience feel for your fellow minorities, women, and the middle to working class?

    • Betsy says:

      If it had been rigged, you may have a point. As it was not, you have talking points.

    • Bess says:

      And Trump and every single GOP candidate running for the nomination doesn’t have baggage?

    • Mia4s says:

      “Other countries wouldn’t let a Hillary get this far in the election cycle with so much serious baggage”

      You don’t get out much do you? This statement is so wrong it’s hilarious.

      The minority and vulnerable groups who will suffer under that Fascist twit the RNC has put forward (and the likely right wing conservative stacking of your Supreme Court), think your “conscience and integrity” are full of crap. You don’t like her? Great, fine. Hold your nose, save your country and then spend 4 years setting up a viable alternative. Survive first, then act.

      • hmmm says:

        @Mia4s

        Can you tell that every single person trotting out the vile memes about Hillary is lazy and prejudiced and didn’t bother to listen to Bill’s telling of her life? I didn’t know that much about her, she is guarded with good reason, but just WOW. I am *so* impressed with her and her life’s work. Before she even met Bill she was a force of nature (for good). No wonder he adores her. I am so impressed!

      • mary s says:

        I teach in a district that is mainly Latino, recent immigrants, I’m not sure how many are illegal, but enough that I’d probably lose my job if Trump were elected. My sister works directly with Mexican immigrants, so she’d be out on the street, too. Thank God for Hillary. #therealone

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      Your statement is so wrong it’s hilarious.

      Please do tell us which nation would not allow Hilary to pass the purity test.

      China? Brazil? Italy? The UK?

      Dear Lord if you’re going to complain this much about the woman at least do it in a way that makes sense.

  21. Cerys says:

    Hillary is by no means perfect but she is 100% better than Trump. Good luck to her

  22. TeamAwesome says:

    To me those DNC emails sound like baristas talking about decafing an obnoxious customer but then not actually doing it.

    I’ve wanted to vote for Hillary since the first time Bill ran. A conservative couple that overcame infidelity and remained in a close partnership would be held up as a beacon. Did Bill do stupid stuff, yes. Why does it reflect badly on her that she powered through and came out the other end marriage intact? Isn’t it just another example of tenacity, commitment, and faith that things can get better? Would we prefer she was on her third spouse like Trump?

    • Ms. Turtle says:

      The Republican Party is calling Trump’s third marriage, kids with 3 women, a “modern, blended family.” Can you EVEN IMAGINE what they would say if the candidate were a black man or a woman running as the democratic nominee!!??

    • lisa2 says:

      I don’t get why what Bill Clinton did has anything to do with Hillary. He made mistakes. She decided to stay in her marriage. That is their personal business. Why are they not yammering on about Donald Trump cheating. He is running for President.

      • Cdoggy says:

        This! Donald’s cheating and first divorce were THE news story in the day. Additionally, I have voted republican in the last two elections, but this year I am with her. the Republican party has, for many years, sprouted its focus on traditional family values. Trump is anything but traditional family values.

        Not to mention, when he made fun of that reporter with disabilities, I was just thoroughly disgusted. I’ve never seen or heard anything like that in all y years. I teach kindergarteners and they know not to make fun of another student with disabilities. It’s so disgusting. It showed me his true heart (well, that and a million other things he has said and done).

      • annaloo. says:

        Cdoggy– You are not a lone. A lot of Republican women are voting for Clinton.

      • Jayna says:

        annaloo, I am so glad to hear that.

    • B n A fn says:

      Can we imagine how it would be if someone break into our email? I et there are things most of us have that we would feel embarrass about. I bet if we get into the RNC OR Burney’ email there are things they would not like being leaked.

      I hope people are following the dots .. and see who the FBI is saying is leaking these emails. They are saying the Russians are involved and we Know Donald Trump campaign manager worked for the Russians. Donald is trying to poo poo this email thing but the FBI is checking it out, they are not laughing. Word on the street is, Donald has borrowed money from Russia because the banks in America is not willing to lend to him because he has stiffed them out of billions. Strange the news are not talking about this.

      • Jayna says:

        It is scary stuff.

      • Luca76 says:

        Yes it’s scary Putin is trying to mess with our election the same way he has manipulated elections in Easter Europe and smaller weaker governments. Trump absolutely needs to release his taxes. Of course it’s going to show that he’s not anywhere as wealthy as he claims , and possibly that he owes a lot to Russian oligarchs. I’ve heard this on NPR they interviewed a reporter from the Washington Post. So the story is out there but the major networks have abdicated their role in reputable journalism.

      • hmmm says:

        Yep, follow the money like they did for Watergate. He won’t release his taxes for a reason. He’s Putin’s Poodle.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      She could have thrown him out at any time. She doesn’t need him politically because people would understand the split. But she made her choice to honor her vows. When they speak about one another, when they look at one another, it is obvious that, despite the problems, there is a deep love between them.

    • the other guy says:

      no, it shows weakness. if someone cheats on you, you should leave them. if you stay, that means you’re okay with being a doormat.

    • Keaton says:

      “A conservative couple that overcame infidelity and remained in a close partnership would be held up as a beacon… Why does it reflect badly on her that she powered through and came out the other end marriage intact? Isn’t it just another example of tenacity, commitment, and faith that things can get better?”

      Thank you! I’m really disgusted when people judge Hillary for staying married to Bill. None of us really know what goes on in their marriage. We don’t know ANYONE’S marriage. My impression is that they are true partners who share the same political values and goals regarding public service. It’s also clear they both deeply love their daughter.

      Man people are so hard on her. I swear if she left Bill they’d judge her for that too. Honestly the woman cannot win. I think this is a huge reason she seems so cool and defensive: She really cannot win no matter what she does. (I also read she had a very critical, uncompromising hard-ass of a father. I believe that is another reason Hillary plays her cards close to her chest and is not as emotionally accessible and open as people would like.)

  23. Lindy says:

    Watching that 102 year old woman from Arizona, born before women had the right to vote…. That made me cry. I’m 39 and I don’t think I realized how bone-deep the feeling goes that seeinga woman as president really wouldn’t happen in my lifetime. Looking at that wonderful old woman, so proud to be doing roll call for Hillary, makes it hit home. There’s been so much at the Dnc that’s inspired me and helped me to have hope for what kind of country we are capable of being. That’s the vision of America I want my son to live in.

  24. adastraperaspera says:

    I watched every minute of the roll call vote. It was thrilling!

    “Oh, if I could but live another century and see the fruition of all the work for women! There is so much yet to be done.”
    ~Susan B. Anthony

  25. LinaLamont says:

    So sick of the people who parrot the anti-Hillary talking points. Never doing their own research; never finding proof. Yeah, she’s flawed. Yeah, she’s so formidable, that the Reps and her opponents have been trying to tear her down for years.

    Donald Trump tweet:
    “I hate to say it, but the Republican Convention was far more interesting (with a much more beautiful set) than the Democratic Convention!”

    He doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air Hillary.

    • nicole says:

      The Democratic convention is way better than the Republican one, they have actually relevent stars ect. Alicia Keyes, Mereyl Streep and all the big Democrats are coming out to show full support for Hillary. Trump is so jealous cause he knows his was a complete disaster, no one wanted to come to his.

      • hmmm says:

        Trump is absolutely jealous!

        1. The convention isn’t about him, no one’s celebrating him.

        2. The spotlight isn’t on him. He is barely mentioned and when he is it’s not by name and he is mocked. The convention is ignoring him for the most part. His weak side is showing. Ha! Even his tweets are lame, showing up what a weakling he is. No attention is draining him of life. The convention’s strategy is brilliant.

      • Keaton says:

        Oh yeah and I bet he’s jealous that the Dem Convention is getting better ratings than the GOP one too. You know how Trump obsesses over “winning” and things like ratings and polls. He’s such a child. I swear he’s the personification of vulgar, mediocre, disgustingly rich white male privilege.

    • nicole says:

      Congratulations Hillary, hope you win in November and really make history!

    • TheOtherMaria says:

      I watched the RNC (headache that it was) because I refuse to surround myself with a narrative that only matches my beliefs, now, I’m watching the DNC with the same attentiveness.

      What most resonates with me: 1.the audience actually reflects an American city’s racial demographics 2. equality is viewed as progress not societal denigration 3. America isn’t deemed lost 4. the acknowledgement how our country was built (and by whom) without rewriting history to fit a false narrative 5. listing of key points to viable policies rather than sound bites….

      Do I think every promise made will be fulfilled? Of course not! However, having a platform that (at the very least) reflects the needs and demand of the people without belittling them is refreshing.

      If only thing this twat waffle can comment on is the aesthetics of the stage..

      Wtf???

      • Betsy says:

        Good for you being able to stomach the RNC. I can’t do that anymore lest I rupture a vein.

  26. hmmm says:

    *Finally*! I cried.

  27. Cee says:

    This is big – whether you like her or not, support her or not, this is a milestone. Hopefully she is the first of many.

  28. Faithmobile says:

    As a former BurnieorBust, and Registered third party voter, I will be voting for Hillary. The main reason being that I don’t want to live in a country with hewhoshallnotbenamed for president. For me, the main function of POTUS is as an ambassador and diplomat and we simply can not have a racist and biggoted overinflated windbag represent us. And though I would never vote for a candidate based upon their gender, the gender specific attacks have most definitely strengthened my resolve to use my vote as a counter to the sexist rhetoric so casually bandied about in this election.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      Thank you.

    • Ana says:

      Thank you Fatihmobile. I voted for Sanders too in the primary and his vision for this country is what I admired the most. I cried yesterday when they were doing the roll call and I could sense his deep sadness. I didn’t walk out because if I did it would show that the orange guy has won! I am voting for Hilary because at least she is qualified and I would want someone like her to lead this country for 4 years than the no name guy. I am a female, a minority and an immigrant from Asia. I came to the US because I believe this country would accept me for who I am and would offer me great opportunities and she didn’t fail. #iamwithher

    • Bee says:

      Thank you.

  29. Ana says:

    Can someone tell me who owns Daily Mail? The people who comment there love the orange guy.

    • nicole says:

      Ana, I know I said the same thing, I stopped reading because they all love him on that site, wonder are they paid commenters.

    • Tina says:

      Daily Mail and General Trust is controlled by Viscount Rothermere, but its editorial decisions are made by Paul Dacre. Its supporters would call it conservative (the most rabid Brexiteers can be found in the comments there) but it has supported many a fascist cause. The love for Trump is unsurprising.

  30. shura says:

    The feel good Hollywood moment has passed and we’d do her a disservice if we didn’t ask the tough questions. Her resume is chock full, no doubt. In that regard she trumps Obama, Clinton, and Bush 2. But she’s surprisingly right of center on all things save civil rights. She’s big money and she’s a hawk. She’s as corrupt as 99% of the politicians in office today. But she’s a woman so no matter? My first vote was for her husband. Ah, the 90s. Change was in the air. Or so we thought. So back to Bush. Then Obama. First black president, Audacity of Hope, more change, blah blah. Nope. Same ole same ole. And here we go again. Whatever looks good, whatever makes you feel good, whatever slogan catches your ear. Yes, she’s a woman. Yes, this is an important historical first. No, she’s no different than her predecessors. Problem is, Trump is worse.

    • hmmm says:

      Let’s always be clear about one thing- there is no comparison between her (or most politicians) and the orange one. He is a flaming fascist, in bed with Putin, and would burn the world to the ground and chuckle over it while stepping over the bodies.

      • dahlia1947 says:

        She’s in bed with the banks. And her and her husband collect money wherever they go.

      • shura says:

        Trump’s a buffoon. Is anyone here unaware? Otherwise reasonable people support him because he’s not a career politician. What he actually is doesn’t matter much, just so long as voting for him “sends a message” to the establishment. Now let’s be clear about one other thing: good luck to you in finding a successful politician, Clinton included, who won’t blithely step over the collateral damage.

      • Jayna says:

        I’m going to call him The Orange One now, also. Thanks. I love it.

  31. Hot pockets says:

    Nope! Gary Johnson has my vote. I hate that people think we can only have a two party system

  32. OTHER RENEE says:

    I think that Hillary lost 8 years ago the minute she cried after winning a state primary. She was seen as weak and emotional. She learned from that experience and hasn’t made the same mistake again.

  33. ellie says:

    If Hillary wins, 3 out of 7 G8 countries (Russia is currently suspended)-USA, UK and Germany will have women as heads of state. They aren’t perfect but still…think about it. It’s about time.

  34. nicegirl says:

    I am so happy, it is hard to find the words.

    I am thrilled to live in a country with a female presidential nominee. I raise 2 sons, and we are all celebrating here, big time.

    GO HILLARY!!

  35. B n A fn says:

    @Ana, Pierce Morgan is running Daily Mail, Rupert Murdoch is the owner. They are both friends of Donald Trump. Rupert M also owns Fox News and the Enquirer rag. The enquirer came out with the false story that Ted Cruze, sp. father was involved in killing JFK.

    • Annetommy says:

      Sorry but that’s not accurate, the Mail has never been part of the Murdoch Empire, it’s still owned by the family that founded it, the Harmsworths / Rothermeres. The editor is Paul Dacre. Piers Morgan was editor of the more left wing Daily Mirror at one stage I believe.

  36. LinaLamont says:

    From NYT:

    “Donald Trump Challenges Russia to Find Hillary Clinton’s Missing Emails”

    Donald Trump, true patriot, is calling for Russia to hack the U.S..

    • B n A fn says:

      I hope as American we are listening carefully to Donald Trump, we should all should be very afraid. He is inviting Putin to find the missing e mail from the State Department. He is still not realizing his tax returns. They are saying it’s because of the money he borrowed from Russia.

      • Luca76 says:

        I hope the FBI is investigating this. I hope that the Republicans can actually be sober minded enough to call for action on this. Putin is one of the most scary m-fers on the planet, scary because he is brilliant, he is corrupt and he has total power in Russia.

    • LinaLamont says:

      This is the man who will be getting classified intelligence briefings in a few days!!!

      • lilacflowers says:

        Well, if he asks for them. Romney didn’t bother to ask for them until Obama brought up that the clearly wasn’t reading them in the second debate. They have to ask for them.

      • LinaLamont says:

        @lilacflowers

        I have no doubt his comrade, Putin, will advise him on what to do.

        I do have to laugh, though, at the words “intelligence” and “Trump” in the same sentence.

    • Jayna says:

      Unbelievable. Pence in a tweet tried to distance himself from The Orange One’s latest tirade.

      If Pence had any sense, he would withdraw right now as the VP nominee and state that with ongoing recent remarks by The Orange One, he realized he made a mistake and cannot in good conscience stand by and support his candidacy.

      • LinaLamont says:

        I’m waiting for Trump to tweet himself into treason.

        Dangerous moron.

      • mary s says:

        @Jayna I’m also wondering what is up with that. He may not be able to withdraw, though, if the Republican Party wants him to stay. At this level of politics the decision is not his to make.

    • Betsy says:

      Literal treason from the man who would like to head the Republican Party.

  37. kimbers says:

    Between Hills and Donnie?

    Donnie needs to get more education and job experience in the field he’s applying for. Maybe an internship/apprenticeship would help him gain more experience in governmental politics? His interview skills also could use work, as he often offends his future employers. He doesn’t show tangible proof of financial independence, nor does he bring to light financial strength. He does show great strength in utilizing his name to gain popularity by hate speech, fear and infamously unethical business deals. Those do not correlate to what our brand, as The United States of America, desires for a more secure, peaceful, and united future.

    Apologies that these are the findings to why Donnie did not obtain his desired position in our beloved country.

    Sincerely,

    The People

  38. jferber says:

    Luca76, But Trump thinks he’s the equal of Putin because Trump is a megalomaniac. Remember, Putin ran the KGB. He could eat Donald alive, but Donald is too stupid to know it…yet. Of course Putin wants Trump to win! Trump is like Little Red Riding Hood skipping into the wolf’s house. Bravado and ignorance will get us defeated in this highly complicated and dangerous world. Trump is NOT the leader the U.S. needs.

    • Luca76 says:

      Yes exactly. Did you hear what Trumps ghost writer had to say about him? This man is just so unfit to lead

  39. honeybee blues says:

    I shared a meme onFB that said, “I just saved a ton of money on Christmas presents by discussing politics on Facebook!” The sexism is getting pretty thick…

  40. Jayna says:

    The Orange One is such a mess. He can’t even be bothered to research the right VP pick by Hillary. I’m on the floor laughing.

    “In a press conference Wednesday morning, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump criticized Hillary Clinton’s vice presidential candidate, Tim Kaine, for how he governed New Jersey.

    “Her running mate, Tim Kaine, who by the way did a terrible job in New Jersey ― first act he did in New Jersey was ask for a $4 billion tax increase and he was not very popular in New Jersey and he still isn’t,” Trump said.

    Except Tim Kaine was the governor of Virginia. Tom Kean, a Republican, was the governor of New Jersey from 1982 to 1990. They are different people.”

    • LinaLamont says:

      I just laughed out loud. Obama said that people outside of our country do not understand what’s going on in this election.

      • mee says:

        And apparently people running in the election (Trump) don’t really know what’s going on in this election either. How can he confuse Kaine and Kean? Is it his own stupidity or carelessness or that of his staff? At some point, the media have to call a spade a spade and just explain — No, Trump is not fit for the presidency. He can’t even tell a horse’s ass from his own (nor can anyone else).

  41. Saks says:

    As a deeply concerned neighbour from south the border, I’m wishing Hillary wins.
    I was rooting for Bernie (as I’m a far leftist myself), but I have to say Hillary knows way better the situation and complex relationship between Mexico and the US.
    I don’t always agree with her (she sadly voted in favour of building a wall in 2006 during Bush and also supported the Patriot Act, for example), but she is more than qualified to run the US.
    I like that since 2008 her tone about immigration has been more open and progressive (I hope is not just for the votes), and that she was one of the VERY FEW high profile international politicians which sort of condemn the disappearance of more than 40 teachers by government forces in Ayotzinapa.
    Also I have family living in the US and I fear for their security if Trump wins, because even they are legal the hate speech is really strong against Mexicans right now.
    So here is hoping for the best for all of us.

  42. Marna says:

    Look into Clinton Foundation fraud. These are not good people. A real tragedy what they did to the Haitian people.

  43. isabelle says:

    Bills speech was low key because he was stepping in the role of spouse in chief. Obama will be the one that comes on stage tonight and advocates for the policies of Dem platform. Bill energetically did it in 2012 and what a great speech it was, polls bounced after Bills speech. Obama will return that favor tonight. Think Obama’s speech tonight will end up being one of his best.

  44. Erica_V says:

    I watched Mary Poppins the otherday and had forgotten this song but this morning I sang every word at the top of my lungs as I was getting ready for work. I am proud to support Hillary, just as I supported her 8 years ago and just like I will support her 4 years from now when she goes for re-election. You can agree with her politics or not but you can not disagree on the fact that this is a historic event we are all witnessing. #IAmWithHer

    “Our daughter’s daughters will adore us. And they’ll sing in grateful chorus! WELL DONE sister suffragettes!!”

  45. BritAfrica says:

    Well Done Hillary. History made!

    Now go on and become the 1st female President of the US!

  46. The Original Mia says:

    Very proud to be a Hillary supporter. Who would have thought she would get this far. I’m so happy my 95 yo grandmother will not only have seen a black man ascend to the presidency, but also see a woman poised to become the first female president of the US. History has been made.

    The Orange One is a dangerous threat to the US and the world. People sitting out or voting Green Party should really take the time to think about this idiot with the nuclear codes.

  47. jferber says:

    Trump seems to have more affection and respect for Putin, a dangerous dictator, than he does for most Americans. Isn’t the friend of our enemy our enemy, too? This is unparalleled.

    • Jayna says:

      And yet I went on a Republican site for the news of his latest press conference and outrageous remarks, and the comments on the article were calling Donald brilliant, a master chess player, playing the Dems, on and on. I felt like I was in an alternate universe and didn’t know how to get out. I needed brain bleach after reading a lot of the comments, and it made me fear once again, “What if he wins?”

      Donald can say anything, and it doesn’t matter. As someone once said on another site, “Trump could strangle a kitten, and the Republican supporters would just go, ‘See, he does have big hands.'”

      Ugh.

      • LinaLamont says:

        @Jayna
        “And yet I went on a Republican site for the news of his latest press conference and outrageous remarks, and the comments on the article were calling Donald brilliant, a master chess player, playing the Dems, on and on.”

        It’s way too early in the morning for me. I read it as “Russian site”, and, I didn’t blink an eye. It made perfect sense.

    • Pegacorn says:

      Yes . It’s better to start a war with Russia and go WWWIII with the world? But is he even friends with Putin? Or is this a way to deflect those DNC emails?

      I’m for having a good international relationship with Russia that wouldn’t end in blood shed. With Hillary, I think she wants a war. Those banks would certainly be happy

      • lilacflowers says:

        “Or is this a way to deflect those DNC emails?”

        You do realize hacking is a crime, right?

  48. familard says:

    Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama & Clinton or unsuccessful-Billionaire. This is the new America.

  49. Lili says:

    As a woman, a political enthusiast and evidence-based person, I am Not proud to have Hillary Clinton as a presidential nominee. I am not going to vote for her just because she’s a woman, instead, I did something shocking, I looked at her policies past and present instead of looking if she has a bag to be qualify to make ‘history’. Her history of bad decisions, ignorance in Benghazi matter and all the lies she had fed the American along with Obama and Bill Clinton sicken me to core that all I feel is disgust toward her.

    Yes I would love to have a female nominee in the future, but not this one. The one who at least have a little bit of moral left inside them instead of a 2 faced corporate puppy. I voted for Bernie and now I am going to vote for Jill Stein.

  50. Nik says:

    Hilary will be president not because she is a woman But because she has worked really hard. 30+ years. Has she made mistakes yes. I’ve heard her apologize for a few she made and own up to them. She’s not in it to be the first woman president. She wants to do her job and that is being a public servant for us the American people. We don’t need finger pointing and name calling come on we are adults hopefully we are educated let’s make the right choice. No negativity let’s build each other up

  51. Sunnyjyl says:

    I am 54 years old. My mother is 72. My mother taught me social justice, how to fight for women’s rights, to stand up for the poor and sick and to work hard for everyone’s benefit, while raising me as she finished high school and college. I am overwhelmed with emotion that she will realize a life long dream. She will live to see a woman president. Emotion? I am proud to feel emotional, at this historic time. Hillary? She has worked her ass off for others her entire adult life. Her record it strong. If you can’t see that, then you haven’t looked very hard.

  52. i love celebitchy says:

    hell no

    thanks

  53. Bee says:

    I am 100% ecstatic. I love Hillary.

  54. caitlinK says:

    I’m glad a woman is making history this way, it’s very moving, and I will certainly vote for Hilary, since there is no other choice. However, I am definitely not going to rhapsodize about her, either. I’m assuming that she’ll win (can’t even stomach thinking about the alternative!) but truly wish we had much, much better candidates. Hilary is not, as a persona or a politician, someone I can feel euphoric about. I’m extremely pessimistic about the next 4 years under her reign.