With 94 days until the election, it’s difficult to know where to even begin with ongoing chaos in the GOP. As a Democrat, I would have preferred this complete and utter Trump meltdown to happen in October, you know? This could have been the perfect October Surprise: surprise, Donald Trump is a lunatic who has no business near the presidency! Surprise, every swing state in America is going to vote for Hillary Clinton! Surprise, Donald Trump ran a terrible general-election campaign. As we are three months away from Election Day, the only positive I can take from this week is that this is when most voters, particularly swing voters, are really starting to pay attention to the election, so Trump’s downward spiral will begin to solidify in the minds of voters. Here are some of the stories going around now:
The first round of post-convention polls. We’re a week past the end of the DNC and two weeks past the end of the RNC. Most of the polls were conducted in the middle of the worst week in Trump’s campaign, and the polls reflect that. And it is glorious. If the polls stay anywhere close to where they are now (they won’t), Trump is set to lose the election by historically awful numbers. White women and college-educated suburbanites are fleeing the GOP in historic numbers, and Clinton is poised to pick up every forcasted swing state.
Trump is unfit to be our commander-in-chief. Not shocking, of course, but those words are now coming from the former CIA deputy director/acting DCI Michael Morell. Morell wrote a New York Times op-ed endorsing Hillary Clinton and saying outright that “Donald J. Trump is not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security.” This is the same op-ed that’s getting attention for a funny story about Hillary, where she said “Screw the White House Correspondents Dinner” when some on the National Security Council wanted to delay the Bin Laden raid a day because of the WHCD scheduling conflict. Morell even went so far as to say that Vladimir Putin “had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.” YAS.
Donald Trump keeps lying. The latest lie is that he saw a video of money being dropped off in Iran. He only admitted that he was wrong about it a day later.
Trump campaign’s New York chair says words. Words about how everyone knows Obama really is a Muslim, you guys.
Ivanka Trump will be in Trump’s cabinet. Donald Trump says everyone wants Ivanka in his cabinet when he gets into office. He doesn’t say what role she would take, nor can he name any other woman he would appoint to any position.
Trump didn’t pay singing children. Watch this video (below). And just know, Trump has a long history of not paying contractors and employees.
Now the thing I’m worried about? That someone will sit on Donald Trump throughout the Olympics and he won’t make any gaffes and people will forget all about this by September. Hopefully that won’t happen, right?
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
He’d better.
Let’s not jinx it please. November is a long time away and so much can happen. Even though I loathe Hilary and can’t believe the fing Democrats scammed her into being their nominee, I still would choose her over him.
“Even though I loathe Hilary and can’t believe the fing Democrats scammed her into being their nominee,”
Your hate for Hillary does not make your false statement about Democrats rigging the primaries true. Millions of people like myself proudly voted for Mrs. Clinton. She won fair and square. She was the most qualified and experienced candidate running with explicitly detailed policy statements and released tax forms.
I was unable to find any level of transparency from Mr. Sanders. No detailed policy papers, was not a genuine Democrat only joining the party to use it for elections and no history of compromising with other parties to get work done. To me he was selling a fantasy with no teeth. Almost con-man style. That is why the most socio-economically poor voters such as Blacks and Hispanic disproportionately voted for Hillary Clinton. Their lives are too real to vote for a fantasy.
I don’t loathe Hiilary Sammy B and I live in the UK so no vote. But I agree with your don’t count your chickens view. There is no room for complacency, and it is impossible to predict what’s going to happen next week, never mind in the months until November. But I really really hope the headline’s right.
They didn’t scam her in. She won more votes in the primaries. In the popular vote. In the pledged delegate count. There’s no evidence for scamming. (yet. If there is any, I’m sure the Russians will leak it a month before the election. And I will accept all of the I told you so’s then) The emails that allegedly ‘prove’ this rigging, don’t prove anything. 6 emails out of 20,000 where the DNC mentions Bernie. Less than .5% All of which were written in late may/early June when the race was clearly already over (Bernie needed to win the remaining states by 70% margins by that point), and if you read the entire email chains of those 6 emails-all of them are snarky responses to Bernie/Bernie campaign staff members slagging the DNC off publicly.
I’m not saying that the DNC didn’t prefer Hilary over Bernie, but there’s no vast overarching conspiracy in those leaked emails. Even Bernie, Bernie campaign staff, and big name Bernie supporters have said that. Because they actually read the emails and not just the media reports.
@Original T.C.
Thank you, the excuses get so old, let’s not resort to delusion like Trump’s party has.
I’m not a Bernie truther. What I mean by scammed is for years before this election we were told Hillary was the next Democratic nominee of the party. It’s obvious they made zero effort to find other potential nominees. I don’t think this was a democratic process at all. Why is it that we’re just hearing about Tim Kaine, he seems like such a great guy. The Dems are as terrible as the Reps in finding potential leadership candidates. I do not for a sec believe Hillary is the best they have to offer.
That’s not true. Joe Biden gave it serious consideration before his son died, and he would have been an excellent nominee if he was just a few years younger. People choose when to throw their hats in the ring, and Tim Kaine very sensibly decided that running as an unknown was not going to get him anywhere in 2016. You have to choose your time to run, you don’t get multiple kicks at the can any more.
Hillary had a leg up in the nomination process because a lot of voters already supported her! She has 100% name recognition. She had 13 million votes just 8 years ago. To act like there was laziness or conspiracy that led to her getting the nomination is not accurate. There is no other democrat who has her experience at the state and federal level. Having a democrat who has been both a senator and a Secretary of State automatically puts them on the short list of nominees for voters.
Sammy: When one considers that Bernie Sanders wasn’t even a registered Democrat when he sought the Democratic nomination, the “scam” argument rings awfully hollow. Of course the DNC was going to favor Hillary, but that doesn’t mean Sanders was cheated.
Yes, don’t become too comfortable. Please make sure you’re registered. Deaadline in NY is Oct 14. Don’t wait. Please register. You can also go online to check your registration status. At least in NY you can.
@Original T.C.
+1 …..on your entire post
Thank you Original TC for putting into words so succinctly what I exactly felt too about Bernie. I’ve always said that there was “no there, there” but your description is perfect. It also really bothered me that he openly used and abused the resources of the DNC for his own personal benefit having never contributed anything to its success in the past not intending to help it in the present or future (he’s already said he is returning to independent status). Honestly, I don’t understand how people like Bernie and Trump are allowed to use the two party system like that when they’ve never been a part of the respective parties.
The other thing that turned me off is his temperament..I really didn’t like his angry old man spouting platitudes schtick.
Ps, in response to someone else’s helpful info on NY, since it’s a swing state and more important from an electoral college standpoint, note that the deadline for voter registration in Florida is October 11, a few days earlier.
Hillary won because more people voted for her. It is that kind of talk that others grab on to like Trump. He says the system is rigged and people believe it.
8 years ago a man named Obama won. Even thought the establishment preferred other candidates. He won because people voted for him. The system is not rigged. While the Democratic Party prefers Clinton they have no control over the votes. I supported Obama and now I support Clinton. If Sanders had managed to get more votes I would be supporting him.
Mostly when I hear that both candidates are equally bad, I am disturbed:
One is a a disturbed rude individual and the other is not disturbed and is respectful of others. No one is perfect but one is clearly not behaving like what we expect of a human being. And much more is expected of our leaders.
President Obama has had so many vile things said about him and his wife. I bet so much more than other presidents. And he has dealt with the criticism in a way that is dignified. It just amazes me. His character is truly presidential.
Karma Wish: Release of Mr. Trump’s tax returns for an early October surprise.
No no no no no. That’s a wrong strategy becuase people are forced to believe that the result is inevitable. That discourages people from going to the pools. The best media approach is to keep repeating that every vote matters. That’s the only way to avoid this tragedy from happening because all the trump crazies will vote.
On completely another note – I used to read gossip at lunch so I could avoid politics and now I open anything on the internet or social media and there is this scrambled eggs pizza looking back at me and i loose my appetite even before I read any of the news.
The best approach is to let Trump be Trump. Honestly, he’s a narcissist and cannot help himself. He has a mental disorder.
Take from this what you will, but as an Independent married to a far-right conservative political blogger/columnist – many of my husband’s Republican friends are looking at the “It’s one or the other, Hillary or Trump, you MUST vote for the lesser of two evils!” and saying to themselves, “Well, if that’s the case, then Hillary is the lesser of two evils.”
They are either not voting for President, voting for Gary Johnson or voting for Hillary.
The only people I see advocating for Trump are his lunatic followers.
@SM, me too. Fb is a war zone of political messages, since I have friends on both extremes, and it seems like no place is safe from his ugly mush. But since he’s a celebrity as well as a candidate it seems there’s no respite.
I’m tired of this breathless coverage of every horrible thing he says like it’s some sort of shock. He says horrible things on purpose to get this exact reaction. By all means keep covering it, but please let’s stop pretending that he’s a) unaware of the effect he’s causing and b) ever going to change.
Trump reminds me of the little poem the dutchess in Alice in Wonderland recites. “Speak roughly to your little boy, and beat him when he sneezes. He only does it to annoy, and because he knows it teases.”
I agree! I worry when people make it sound like its a given.
Interesting – apparently Trump is making a big economic speech on Monday and rolling out his plan. One of the CNBC senior contributors helped draft it and said it will turn things around – disturbing thought. He also pointed out that both Reagan and Bush were polling really badly in August of their relevant years.
Trump can only hold it together for days at most. I don’t see that changing. So even if his economic plan is somehow brilliant (unlikely since he has already said he wants to reduce taxes on millionaires), any bump he gets from it could easily evaporate it the next week.
Plus, it will be awesome for Hillary to actually have something concrete to rip to shreds in the debates. And Trump will have to defend it and stay on message. I don’t see that happening.
I read an article about his team of economic advisor, all rich white men who have made their money from the pain and suffering of others.
Yeah, Persephone, I saw that too.
And some comment like “Trump had room for 6 rich guys named Steve, but not a single woman”
Hopefully Clinton gets so far in front in the polls that a lot of progressives will feel safe enough to vote for Jill Stein and get the Green vote up to 15%. That way the Greens will get to participate in the presidential debates at the next election and promote their progressive platform to a wider audience.
Until it actually happens, I’ll continue to live in fear that he may actually pull it off somehow.
Exactly how I am feeling.
+1 – avidly from the other side of The Atlantic.
Me, too.
Same. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst. No jinxing!
I’m worried about wikileaks.
He can still pull this off especially in the shadow of Brexit. Any terror/crime incident may help him just as additional leaks may really hurt Hillary. Heard Johnson and Stein are pulling pretty strongly so those 2 can also hurt the outcome. 94 days is just too long!
BTW – although naming Ivanka is not a surprise, I’m really sick of his nepotism.
Actually Johnson and Stein aren’t having much of an effect on her lead when they are added in to these latest polls. Nor are either Johnson or Stein doing that amazing historically speaking . In comparison, Ross Perot got about 20% of the popular vote in the 1992 election. Although to be fair, they could make a significant difference if the election is close – see Ralph Nader’s 2.5% in 2000.
I suspect what is happening is that the anti-Trump rhetoric has lived up to it’s hype and people are seeing that first hand while the anti-Clinton rhetoric from the other side really hasn’t.
That is, yes Hillary is flawed but her flaws have been wildly over-sold. No she isn’t “the most corrupt politician of all time” (there is literally zero proof of her selling favors but the wingnuts spout that like it’s gospel ), no she is not incompetent (tons of national security experts like Brent Scowcroft have crossed party lines to endorse her), yes she has taken money from Goldman Sachs but so did President Obama and many other Democrats that people highly respect (Bernie’s purity in this area is an exception not the rule), no wingnuts she’s not a socialist, no folks on the left she hasn’t been a Goldwater girl for almost 50 years – get over it, etc She’s a pragmatic person with strong progressive values and a long consistent history of working for children (likely influenced by her mom’s tragic childhood). She is more of a centrist when it comes to economic policy but she sees the value in Bernie’s ideas and as a pragmatist she knows they aren’t going to CRASH THE ECONOMY like the wingnuts claim. At the same time she cares about small business which is the life’s blood of the American economy. Liberal pragmatist is how I’d describe her. My biggest issue with her is in the area of foreign policy – she’s a little hawkish for my taste. She’s a Samantha Powers “use military invention for humanitarian purposes” type but still it makes me a bit nervous. But not as nervous as Trump.
Trump on the other hand has lived down to the negative rhetoric against him: Thin-skinned, arrogantly ignorant, a blustering B.S. artist that uses racism and xenophobia and the promise of bringing back jobs that are lost for good to con people into voting for him. He’s the worst and sane people are seeing it first hand every single day.
Mata: I’m with you. I don’t trust that he cannot pull it off. That he’s made it this far doesn’t bode well with me.
Agreed. My kids and I were nervous this weekend when FiveThirtyEight had the election chances at around 51%-49%. Now they’re at 82%-18%! That’s crazy, but even those odds won’t shake that fear. As much as Trump is effing up, this is no time for complacency.
Yes, polls can change in an instant. Many people don’t make their final decision until they’re in the voting booth. And how any terrorist attacks or other events will affect votes is unpredictable. But at least Hillary has a long history of being well prepared, so I hope she’s working on her responses to anything that could happen.
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Even if he loses, he’s already setting the stage for saying the election is rigged, the debates are rigged and he’s not going to do them (if there’s more than 1 debate I’ll eat my hat), and he’s going to throw a hissy fit. The man is not going away for the next 4 years-he’s Sarah Palin 2.0
Yes, I agree. I worry about the large numbers of never-voted-before people that might turn out this year for Trump. Bigots now have a candidate they can vote for, and it might change things quite a bit (sadly). Polls usually give more weight to voters who have voted before, as they are typically more likely to vote.
Those people always vote..they are very vocal in their bigotry and use the elections to get what they want. Happy, complacent, successful people are the ones who sit by the sidelines sadly. Those and poor people who can’t make it to the polls.
This. I’m voting and want others to vote with the thought in their head he is actually ahead and will beat Hillary. Nate Silver is predicating she will win as of now with Obama 2012 numbers, about 4% ahead but when you factor in the third party effect, its becomes lower. Trump still has a good chance of winning.
It is so bizarre that this thing is ever even a close vote. That’s really scary. We have to live with people who actually think Trump is ok when he’s so obviously not. Even with the propaganda campaign against Hillary all these years (and it is baseless propaganda, just listen to all the people of all different politics who have worked with her), I can’t understand how he’s managing to fool so many people. I have never seen such a candidate from either Party and I’m getting old as dirt. Even Reagan (a chronic liar and ignorant like Trump, just more cheerful) wasn’t this bad.
Trump can’t pull this off, not *honestly anyway. MOST people’s minds are already made up & NO ONE IS GOING TO FORGET HOW MENTALLY UNSTABLE HE IS. We can’t ‘unsee’ the 100’s of disgusting & frightening statements that came out of his ignorant mouth. And the Clinton ads will be plentiful, just in case we need constant reminders. 🙂
My one concern, He’s asked Russia/Putin to Hack into the election / polls, assuring a win for him. I can so see him cutting a dirty deal like this. Orangina hates to lose & Putin wants him as his puppet in chief.
Trump is the darkest, deadliest Con Man of the 21st Century…. I put nothing past him.
I’m concerned he’ll continue to lie, cheat and insult his way into the white house. I’m especially concerned that’ll he’ll wear an earbud during the debates with someone feeding him answers. Yeah, I’m feeling a bit paranoid right now.
Me too. Here in Canada we had someone very similar though not as obviously bad – Stephen Harper. He was in for nearly 10 years with only 1/5 of the vote nationwide. Scary and horrible years.
For the sake of the entire world, Hillary has to win this and i sincerely hope she does. She has earned it, whether Trump was running or not, Hillary (in my opinion only I mean) is the best – overqualified even.
Too much time til Election Day. It is not over til it’s over. Get out there and vote in November, folks. This man is way too dangerous to stay home and chance it.
The fact that he made MILLIONS from individual donations is really scary and nauseating. I’m not sure if this means he has grown his base and those #s aren’t accounted for in polls.
That scared me too. I am taking nothing for granted and will ignore the polls. We have to get out the vote in November or this mad man could find his way into the White House.
His email fundraising over the past two weeks has been extremely aggressive. I’m on his email list (one of my former Senators used his constituents services email database for fundraising, which is illegal and unethical, and he shared it with Trump) so I’ve been bombarded with multiple emails each day, sometimes 6 a day, begging for money. He also says he’ll match donations so half of his pile is his own money, which actually may only be pledged at this point.
Since this is really his first big push for fundraising to the little people, I would hope these are one time donations. He is being very aggressive, we got a phone call and for a 1000.00 donation we could get an autographed 8×10 of him. Um thanks I think I am good there. I will say if this give you hope, 3 months ago I said I could never vote for Hillary, 2 months ago I was only going to vote state and local and now I am I have to vote for Hillary to keep this country from having a nuke dropped on it. And I am not alone, I have die hard republican friends who have relatives spinning in the graves because they will be voting democrat for the first time ever. Friends who work for republicans who just can’t vote for him.
If The Donald is matching funds for the small donors – they aren’t donating to his campaign, they are donating to The Donald’s personal bank account. I’m sure he is only loaning the money (charging interest) to the campaign, as he did in the primaries. Pretty clever, he gets back all the funds matched to the small donor money plus a chunk of interest from the larger donors. Plus great PR because he can do as Bernie did, figure the average donation and use that as proof of his hardcore support. Matched funds are usually easier to get because people assume their small donation will go further – but in this case, no further than The Donald’s pocket. And yet those donors actually believe Trump is financing the campaign with his own money.
It’s not over until the last vote is cast. I worry about the early predictions and exit polls, which could lead those in later time zones to stay home. Don’t assume anything, just VOTE!
The media needs to completely shut up about the election starting the time the first polls open and ending the time the last polls close on Election Day at the very least. Would be great to have a break during the whole voting period since some states now have early voting.
I wonder is he’ll even make it to Nov. 8th. I know Republicans are planning on what to do it he decides to quit.
He’s not quitting. He’s closer to the presidency then he’s ever been before. He’s a narcissist that doesn’t see beyond glorifying his own image.
He is very unpredictable, so who knows what will happen between now and Nov 8, for know he is staying on script as they say, he has endorsed Paul Ryan etc and every thing is all rosy on the Trump train, for now, because I bet he will say something outrageous again come Monday, he cant help himself, he is a loose canon, so lets hope he goes off script again soon, and continues to show what a nutjob he is till Nov.
What could they do? This has already gone too far. The GOP has disappointed a lot of people.
America no longer has a 2 party system, more like one party and an orange system.
If Trump is considered a national security threat by all these experts, maybe someone should do something before election day. WTF? Trump has exposed all the flaws in the system, why isn’t the system showing its strenghts?
They won’t let it happen. I do believe that he or his campaign will implode before they need to take action. I also think it’s best to let him prove himself to be a failure rather than Martyr him.
I think the GOP is depressed about what is happening to their party tbh. BUT they can’t do anything about it really. The people voted for Trump and our country is about letting the people vote for whom they want. So yes, I think many republicans are upset that Trump got the nomination, though sadly, there’s really nothing they can do.
My father is a hardcore republican and while he would shoot himself before voting for Hillary he is losing his mind over this election. He thinks Trump is a dangerous lunatic. I think he’s going to pack up our family and move us in November to avoid voting. I’m a moderate republican -you know, pro choice, pro gay marriage, legalization of drugs etc. because I think the govt should just stay out of people’s lives – and I’m beside myself that my first election is between these two crappy people.
Llamas- just remind your dad that he can split his ballot. He doesn’t have to vote for anybody for President if he feels wrong about voting for Hillary. Just leave that spot blank. Then he just has to go down the list and vote for the individual candidates. I’ve done this many times myself, including leaving certain races blank. Really, he will have complete control over his vote. Relax!
I hope you get to feeling Hillary isn’t such a crappy choice. I have never been fully represented by any President ever. Hillary will be a competent President, is unlikely to start WWIII, works well with others, and probably doesn’t run with scissors. Just choose the most important issues for you and keep making the Prez and Congress very aware of how you feel about them. The rational ones do pay attention to the pro and con piles. Even a postcard or a phone call will be enough. That’s what I’ve had to do all my life.
Truthfully, I’m more afraid of Pence than Trump. I fear for every woman if Trump is elected and Pence as VP! My daughter is 21 and I fear for their right to choose if needed, their right to be able to buy birth control without having to pay out the ass every month because their insurance doesn’t cover it! Their right to choose what is the right choice for them should never be taken away again, we just can’t allow it!!
If he were to be replaced, it needs to happen before the end of August because of ballot deadlines in the various states. He won’t be replaced. The guy doesn’t want to lose but he also doesn’t want to win.
I think the Olympics/Trump dynamic will be interesting. The world tunes everything out for two weeks while the Olympics are on, which would be a perfect time for Trump to go away and reset, but his ego won’t be able to stand the fact that he isn’t the lead story on every media outlet. It should be very interesting.
The polls will tighten and then as we move into October and November, slowly, Hillary will pull away again. The suspect the only thing that will make this close is a terrorist event or two on US soil. For every reason, I pray that doesn’t happen.
True but in fitting with the 2016 trend, this Olympics is not your standard Olympics and just about anything can go wrong which may give him more attention.
It doesn’t seem that there is anyone that can “contain” Trump. For that reason I think he will ramp up the crazy over the next two weeks to get attention back on himself.
I don’t think he can quit or be replaced – this is the person that has been chosen by the people. It would be a disaster. Not to mention, who would it then go to? There’s no system in place for this, and the government is far too bloated and slow (looking at you, House!) to come up with a policy in just a few short weeks.
The RNC would decide who to replace him with if he dropped out, but again, it would have to be done before August is finished because ballot deadlines in various states are ticking.
I’ve thought for the last six month the Republicans needed to overthrow his nomination (at the convention, despite the votes — they could’ve changed the rules to do and should’ve pushed harder). Sure, it cinches a loss this cycle, but you send the message to the general electorate that Trump and his inbred racists supporters will not be tolerated. As it stands, they lose anyway and Republicans probably will lose a generation of voters because of the bile being spewed by this guy and his supporters.
My point is that people would lose their minds at the RNC choosing someone that they didn’t vote for.
He buckled up this week and even backtracked today. He is beginning to listen to his handlers. That isn’t a sign of a man that is quitting.
I have a feeling Trump is going to make sure he loses. And probably before the debates. Could you imagine he and HRC in a debate? As the audience, it’s hilarious. If I had the CV of Clinton, I’d be infuriated.
That ‘s only if his audience gives a sh*t about logic or facts. None of that matters to them. He can spend the entire speech saying crooked Hillary over and over again and they’ll consider it a win
Trump will not debate Hillary. He has never done a one-on-one debate and he’s already started laying the groundwork to claim it’s “unfair” and “rigged” against him. He’ll pick a fight with one of the moderators and claim he won’t do it unless they throw that moderator out.
His followers will say, “He’s an Alpha! He’s just showing he doesn’t take crap from anyone!”
The rest of us will see a narcissistic coward who knows he will lose any one-on-one debate against Hillary.
He can’t debate her. He’s too immature. He’d get flustered. My husband is certain that if he really actually does need to debate Hillary, he’ll get so worked up that he’d probably drop some offensive bombs, like the b- or c-words. And then, it’s all over for a lot of people.
I’m partially convinced that he never really planned to get this far. He ran thinking it would be great for his public persona and whatnot, and then it actually took off and now he here is, trying to figure out a way out. If you believe John Kasich, Trump has no intention of actually governing at all, and basically would let the VP do everything. I genuinely think he didn’t plan this far ahead.
Sam I agree, he doesnt want to be President he just likes the sound of it to go with his over inflated ego, he is got himself into something that he really doesnt know how to get out off, I think he is going to loose his head completly before Novemeber.
He is already complaining about the debate schedule. He probably won’t show up for them. They’re rigged, don’t you know?
Then they need to proceed with the debates – Hillary and a life size cardboard cutout of Trump.
Yup. With a microphone in front of the Trump cutout, repeating some of his choicest clips. The moderator can secretly choose the clips to make it spontaneous for Hillary.
It depends on if the moderator is going to let him try to steamroller her, or if it’ll be a real debate.
He’ll never agree to a real moderator that would challenge him and even if he did, the moderators never have any real power. I would be into it if the moderator announced at the beginning of the debate that each candidate will have x amount of time for whatever type of question and if they go y seconds beyond that, their mics will be cut. I do think, though, Trump will try to find some sham moderator because he knows the debates would be highly rated.
If he doesn’t show up they should just let her lay out her plans, or have someone pretend to be DT.
Just let his VP choice be his stand-in, because apparently he’ll be running things anyway.
People can’t be complacent; we must vote in November to send this bigot down in flames and people like Kelly Ayotte with him.
Yes, lets show the world that hate will never win!
I don’t think the Democrats will let anyone forget about this. Just wait until the Hillary endorsement commercials start. Hahahaha. Cannot wait.
HRC should save her money because Trump’s the human equivalent of a negative ad campaign–he’s doing all the work for her every time he opens his orange hole.
I watched an ad the other day with his ugliest sound bites plus his generous f-bombs and had little children watching it on a television. With a title card asking something like “Is this who you want your children to look up to?”
I hope it works on the people who are on the fence about him. (Which is an insane concept for me, but stupid runs deep and strong.)
That’s a great campaign ad. I saw it in Canada.
A political tweet came through yesterday reporting that Hillary was pulling ads from VA and CO to put them in other states.
This means her internals are showing she’s got those states sewn up. A new poll this morning has her 4 points ahead in GEORGIA!
That is a powerful ad. As a mom and a teacher, I got choked up the first time I saw it. Our children are watching, I hope we send them the right message in November.
A lot can happen between now and November. Plus remember, the folks who actually go out and vote every single time are the core Republicans. So I hope now a lot of folks are getting registered to vote and encouraged to do so, otherwise I am afraid we will be screwed.
In news cycles and politics, it is several lifetimes until the election. And republicans are so desperate, who knows what they can do to lock him up and keep him shut up. I have a theory that trump will continue to implode just because he doesn’t want to win yet his ego cannot let him quit.
Dont mention it and jinx it Americans. My heart goes out to you all that you are ven having to consider a Trump presidency.
This may be just me whistling through the graveyard, but I don’t think Trump can RESIST saying crazy sh*t, and I think the Olympics will drive him to it because he can’t stand for people’s attention to be on anything but him. I’m both encouraged when I read that the RNC may be plotting how to remove him and put forward another candidate, and fearful that they may run someone like Paul Ryan. Sigh. I hate what our politics have become.
They cannot remove him. They’re trying to talk him into withdrawing
If he withdrawls, he’s done for. That base that’s donated money? They will feel utterly betrayed. The only thing worse than losing is if he quits.
This is my nightmare scenario – Trump withdraws with enough time for the republicans to regroup under a John Kasich or a Mitt Romney (and Romney would absolutely jump at that chance).
@Punkymomma – I doubt Trump would endorse his replacement if he withdrew and his base would rather light themselves on fire than vote for a real politician.
@PunkyMomma – that is EXACTLY what I’m fearing.
Bridget the only thing worse then losing (for Trump) is winning. This man does not actually want to be president. It actually hard work, enormous pressure, it takes disciple and sacrifice. It’s Trumps worst nightmare! I think he will find away to withdraw that preserves his ego. I think he’s laying the groundwork with this “the election is rigged” nonsense.
I think he’s going to end up trying to go to the big ‘it’ event at the Olympics, get annoyed when he can’t get in, and then make it all about him. OR if the US loses some big event he’ll talk about how it means the US is failing our athletes on the world stage and make it all about him. OR a athlete will make a anti-Trump remark and he’ll get upset and make it all about HIM.
He’ll always find a way to make every event about him. His ego doesn’t work any other way.
Question for my political followers?? I watched a video of Hilary Clinton saying: trump wants to raise taxes on the super wealthy, I want to raise taxes on the middle class!!!
Please tell me she doesn’t want to do that?! That’s me, the low end of middle class, and we are already paying out the butt for healthy care ever since Obama passed Obamacare. Perscriptions have doubled and tripled, and our prices on everything else health care jumped an insane amount also. The super wealthy can afford tax increases, certain areas of middle class(me) cannot afford it!!!!
That seems unlikely as Trump has already shot down several tax cut plans for the super-wealthy. Link please.
I’ve seen a reference to this appear on a few sites and people keep saying that it was dubbed at about the 2 or 3 minute mark. Of coarse Trump supporters argue that it is 100% real. That’s never been her platform so I think it’s another planted false story.
If she said it, it was one of those slips. She probably meant to say Trump is for giving tax breaks for the wealthy and she’s for giving tax breaks for the middle class.
Yeah that makes more sense to me @sherry.
She did NOT say they were going to raise taxes on the middle class. The Trump people fixed a video to make it appears she says that. I saw the videos on msnbc. They showed the trump people are using dirty tricks against Hillary.
Oh ,hell, no. She’s has always said she’s going to raise taxes on the wealthy consistently and talks about how that money will be used. I think what they are saying was she was saying we “aren’t” going to raise taxes on the middle.class in that one video but it sounds like she said we are.. The context of the speech would bear that out. The crowd was cheering. They wouldn’t be cheering if she said she was raising taxes on the middle class, which she has never ever said before and wouldn’t be changing course now.
My link (dailywire.com) was edited out, but yes, she said this.
Have you checked out the Exchange properly for subsidized health insurance? You might need to consult with someone involved in the Exchange by phone or chat, you should be doing better not worse ( I had to call to sort somethings out and they were very helpful). Unless the sleazy insurance companies have done something like narrow the network on you (they did it to me), in which case you should be screaming to Congress and the White House and your governor. My governor was Mike Pence, though, and unlike other governors in states with the same problem, he couldn’t care less about Indiana citizens getting shafted by the insurance companies. I ended up with a wonderful policy but the narrowed network meant coverage was certain only for emergency care, which was certainly not the intent of the Affordable Care Act. The insurance company did this only to people on the exchange because they knew we didn’t have other options. So they were picking up $740 per month from the Feds as a subsidy without much risk of a claim. They really are racketeers. I had had to drop medical insurance years before – they wanted more than half my income and doubled the already high deductible. So I suppose having emergency insurance was better than nothing.
Also make sure you have checked for your eligibility for any state-run insurance programs.
It’s backward, or a slip-up. Hilary wants to CUT taxes for the middle class whereas Trump wants to cut taxes for the wealthy.
I don’t think he can exercise enough restraint to keep his cool for next three months. And Ivankas role is going to be FLOTUS. Wasn’t it always?
lol. Melania has gone back to her castle. She is never on the campaign trail with him. Trump has his real first lady coming out at times, Ivanka.
I was positive my dad (a staunch Republican) was going to vote for Gary Johnson. Sadly, he’s voting for Trump because “we need a businessman in charge”. My dad is an intelligent, educated man, and it just floored me when he said that. He glossed right over The Donald’s lack of qualifications saying President Obama had no experience either when he was elected (the same man he’s complained about because of that!). I reminded dear old dad of Trumps multiple bankruptcies and failure to pay his vendors and contractors. He said every business goes through bankruptcy, that’s no big deal (?!); and he was right not to pay people if they do poor work. I said that just speaks of his poor judgement and not learning from his mistakes, if he keeps hiring incompetent people who do shoddy jobs EVERY time. Which of course I don’t believe. He flat out just didn’t *want* to pay. Thanksgiving this year should be interesting, haha!
Look on the bright side, at least by Thanksgiving the election will be over.
Has your dad read the recent Newsweek article about Trump’s business history? Maybe that would help him see that Trump’s business success is all a mirage, a complicated shell game where everyone else loses their shirts and he somehow comes out ok? It sounds like your dad might be a lost cause, but I’m a hopeless optimist who stubbornly clings to the belief that reason and truth will always eventually get through to people. (I know, I know.)
Also, I’m pretty convinced that the real reason Trump doesn’t want to release his tax returns is it would show he has far less wealth than he claims. I suspect his claims to wealth are all a pretense, smoke and mirrors covering up mountains of debt.
The argument that we need a good businessman/woman in the White House is so absurd to me. Government is NOT a business! You’re not looking to make profit; you have to wisely invest in its PEOPLE and policies. If anything, government is more like running a non-profit.
On top of that, Drumpf isn’t even a good businessman! He finances his next pet project through bankruptcy protection of the first, stiffing workers in the process. Why are his supporters, mostly middle to lower class people themselves, so willing to overlook that?? He is a shifty, racist, misogynist, narcissistic liar with a big mouth and a thin skin – how on earth can anyone think he would make that a good President??
Trumps Daddy gave him over a million dollars (which was a lot more at that time)when he was young to begin those bossiness. He isn’t a real businessman man, he was a super wealthy kid that got handed success to carry on what he Dad built up. Remind your Dad he was inherited into his success and didn’t build it from the ground up. We aren’t talking about a poor kid that become rich. He was a rich trust fund kid that became richer.
Right now, the only group that consistently supports Trump is white men. That’s it. He’s losing every racial minority group, as well as women overall and even white women. Which makes me ask – what the heck is wrong with white men?
I do think he is going to lose, barring some major event. And by major event, I mean like a terror attack or something like that, that will so frighten people that they’ll move to the right. God willing, that will not happen. But that’s basically the only thing I could see moving the needle that far over.
He has strong numbers with married white women as well. Guess they have to do what the hubbies wants them to do.
Isabelle- women have been quietly cancelling out their husband’s vote for generations…. So what they tell the pollsters won’t necessarily match what they do in the privacy of the voting booth.
@jwoolman
that comment about women cancelling their husband’s vote is so true. I had a great friend and her husband was a Republican. She would vote the opposite of everything he voted for. I always laughed at that one.
Trump would lose by historic numbers if the election was today. We shouldn’t be too confident. Literally anything can happen in 94 days to change the election.
I know. I’m almost worried by how he is imploding in such spectacular fashion and Hillary’s numbers way up this far out. So much can happen.
It is not that numbers are finally starting to show the reality of Trump’s demographic that surprises me. It’s that it took SO freaking long.
For those who were holding on to the Trump train for dear life until recently, what was it that finally tipped the scales?
Going after the military family? Bizarrely mocking the mother of the screaming baby? The fact that his wife was an illegal alien, that he breathes hypocrisy or that whenever he’s trying to appeal to a new racial demographic he will literally posts pictures of himself eating ‘Mexican’ bowls or Fried Chicken?
It was going after the Khan’s. Sarah Palin’s son in law even thinks he needs to apologize. http://www.people.com/article/dakota-meyer-donald-trump-apologize-khan-family
That’s what confuses me about my dad! He was in the military, as was my grandpa, all of my uncles, and a couple of cousins and oldest son serving currently, not to mention my dad’s own extended family of his own uncles and cousins. From the time my great great grandpa fought in the Civil War, most of the men, and a few of the women, in his family have served in the military. Being the oldest son, he even has my late grandpa’s purple heart medal! So for him to even consider Trump to be the best candidate just surprises me. But my dad is an old white man, so I guess I shouldn’t really be surprised…
I can’t wait for November and Hillary’s victory. This is beyond election fever, partisanship and so on. I feel like my country has been taken hostage by an ugly sociopath and I want it to end. It’s important that Trump looses, and drastically, because future generations must know that in 2016 Americans rejected fascism and embraced a competent woman.
I was wondering who Trump reminded me of in that last photo. So I typed in”annoying orange” on Google and I can now see the resemblance
NewWester- yes! Annoying Orange it is! He was so annoying. Almost put me off citrus fruit.
You should compare Chucky doll’s picture with Trump….
Yes, he looks like an old version of Chucky, ha ha!
It’s going just like Trump/Hilary planned. I still say that Trump is a plant from Hilary’s team to get her elected. They’re working together!
Actually, this thought has been discussed on many European news forums. The number of people doubting that Trump ever really wanted to become President is growing. But why wouldn’t the Republican Party make sure there’s at least a serious candidate going into the race? Wouldn’t they become aware of this?
Oh, Donald just figured out a new way to make money. I doubt Hillary would go along with such a ridiculous scheme.
Serious question: Do you know how disastrously things are going to be for Trump if he loses this nomination?
He made a LOT of enemies in running for President. His businesses are bleeding money because of awful things he’s said on the campaign trail. Associations with Macy’s and Miss America were terminated because of his behavior. In the political realm alone he has genuine enemies who want nothing more than to make him miserable as soon as they no longer need him.
What in the world could Hilary Clinton ever offer a man to persuade him to essentially destroy his life and reputation just to end up with less money and more enemies? I really wish people who believed in these bizarre theories would justify and explain them logically rather than just say them. Might as well claim its all the Illuminati’s doing.
I really don’t think the time is right for complacency:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/03/trump-clinton-unpopularity-2016-election-prediction-winner
What scares me is that he gets to be briefed on security matters as the nominee. who knows what stupidity he will unleash. I’m skerred.)-:
I hope the craziness continued thru the Campaign, that every one votes & votes WISELY, and Trump does not win.. From my lips to God’s ear. For our country’s sake.. Frankly for the world’s sake.
We’ve gotten to that point where no one is listening to anyone anymore. The response I get to this is usually something like “Why should I listen to someone who is racist / has no grasp of logic / wants to take all my rights away?”
The funny thing is I get this exact same response from both sides of the aisle. It boggles the mind that both sides see the other like this. No one is willing to concede one inch. Maybe we’re at the point where we really can’t compromise anymore. (“Why should I compromise on [insert issue that has great meaning for me]?” Lol.) So what happens then?
I wonder if his kids, two who were unable to vote in the primaries due to a “delayed” change of party, are sitting back & letting their father drive himself crazy with all of this so that they can have him removed from power in the family business. I wonder how close he is to matching the definition of “incompetent”.
The other thing I wondered watching Eric try to parry a few of the stories coming after his father, was “Is Eric setting himself up to go into politics?”
Ivanka could not be a cabinet member. After JFK made his brother the Attorney General, a law against nepotism was passed.
The interesting thing about that statute is it is still a debated question whether that actual can apply to the President, or is it an unconstitutional infringement on the separation of powers? It has never been an issue because Presidents since JFK have recognized the awkwardness of that AG pick and have honored the statute rather than contest it.
Donald Trump, though, is not one to honor such a “gentleman’s agreement” and would be the one to say it doesn’t apply to him, he can do what he wants. (Though at this point, I would put money on him having no idea this statute exists.) The easy answer for the Senate is to simply vote against confirming Ivanka to whatever cabinet position The Donald chooses for her. But what sort of tantrum would The Donald throw then?
It could all be quite a mess, so let’s just avoid it all by not letting him become President.
a mega-maniac should not be running any country… see North Korea if you disagree – in recent news… Jul 28, 2016 – North Korea’s top diplomat for U.S. affairs said Washington “crossed the red line” and effectively declared war.
So Donald Trump is up to his dirty tricks. He tampered to a video on you tube to make it sound as if Hillary was saying she was going to raise taxes on the middle class. Watching Chuck Todd and he played both video. Then Pence was on the campaign trail saying that Hillary says she is going to raise taxes on the middle class which is a lie.
Hubris will get everyone in the end. He pushed it, peaked, then thought he’d sink to the lowest depth and have his cronies accuse the family of a dead soldier of some Islamist plot. You couldn’t make it up.
Then there is his daughter, Ivanka. As a Jewish woman, even through conversion, surely she would know how wrong it is to single out people on the basis of religion. Then there is Eric Trump, who when commenting about the sexual harassment case doing the rounds in the media, said his sister Ivanka is smart, ad nauseum, and she would never let that happen to her, like women who are harassed at work simply permit harassment. Then there is Melania and the lies about her education, the plagiarised speech.
This family is a running joke. One could consider them as candidates for a thesis on affluent families and internal dysfunction, because there is no way this family is functional behind closed doors.
If he gets too far behind in the polls he will probably just drop out. The GOP is already making contingency plans for that scenario.
The Donald won’t drop out until he’s made as much money as possible from his campaign. He’s making interest on funds loaned to the campaign and having events at venues that are profitable for him personally, plus he is building name recognition for his brand. It sounds as though his businesses aren’t doing so well, and I don’t think it’s because he’s busy on the campaign trail. He’s been cheating people and driving businesses into bankruptcy for years after sucking them dry for his personal profit, and he may just be running out of people willing to invest and work for him. He seems to have already run out of US banks willing to loan him money. But the core group of Trump voters is a new group of pigeons to pluck. They may not have loads of money in most cases, but as a group they might be quite exploitable.
If he is really in hock to Russian creditors as much as is speculated, he may really need to win in order to implement pro-Putin policies as much as he can with just Presidential powers – he may desperately need debt forgiven or better terms. He might be very worried about what might happen if he can’t come through on that, even if his creditors don’t act like mobsters in his case.
I also posted this in the Eastwood thread.
I’m sorry if someone already posted this. I don’t have time to read this entire thread.
Google:
Cameron Kerr Purple Heart GoFundMe
I have been voting for a long time now. And even though I am a registered Democrat there have been a few times over the years that I have voted for a candidate who is a Republican. Not real often, but I’ve done it a few times. And it was always for a specific reason such as to support a specific issue that was important to me.
So, its okay to “split your ticket” once you are inside the voting booth.
As for Mr. Trump, I believe he has some form of mental illness or deep-seated personality disorder. And, he is just plain mean. And he is petty. And he refuses to release his income tax returns. Why? I do NOT want to see a man with Trump’s character flaws representing the United States.
I also do not care to have Melania Trump as First Lady. It is quite clear that she plagiarized Michelle Obama’s speech. And she lied and said she wrote the speech herself. Then she had to backtrack on that statement. She also lied about have a university degree and now the story making the rounds is that her immigration may not have been on the up and up.
As for the issues, I uphold the traditional Democratic values. Thus, I would never vote for Trump.
No, I do not think he will drop out of the race. Yes, I think he will lose.
My best advice to all of you here is to actively use your “sphere of influence” to intelligently talk to others about the importance of voting Democratic in this election – just this once if they are a registered Republican.
I feel bad for those of you for whom this is your first chance to vote in a Presidential election. My own first Presidential election was in 1968 (you had to be 21 to vote Nixthen) and it was Richard Nixon – R vs. Hubert Humphrey – D (Lyndon Johnson had famously declined to run for a second term, having already served the remainder of Kennedy’s term and 4 years to which he was elected). Oh and Governor George Wallace of Alabama ran as an Independent. Nixon won with 43.4% 0f the popular vote. Humphrey got 42.7% and Wallace got 13.5%.
One of the funniest things I saw was Trump reading his endorsements of other established Republican. When I heard how he read the obvious statements that had to be written for him it was clear that he was forced to do so. He is a nutcase and the Republican have themselves to blame for not shutting this mess down at the beginning. They gave him MONTHS of freedom. No one took him to task. The other potential candidates let him say whatever he wanted because they were so scared. They together could have called him out on his lies.
And yes he needs to release his taxes.. Because this “every man has not paid taxes in years” and he is a cheater and a con man.. the Tax Papers will show this.
forcasted is actually forecasted. spellcheck?