Comments on: Miss California Pageant directors in impassioned press conference http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/ Stylish celebrity escapism Wed, 15 Feb 2012 05:26:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Vex http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-310408 Vex Thu, 14 May 2009 12:21:57 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-310408 I'm sorry but shes a pageant queen. Its almost expected of her to do something that requires no more than a tiny lump of brain. I’m sorry but shes a pageant queen. Its almost expected of her to do something that requires no more than a tiny lump of brain.

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]]> By: Damaris http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-310155 Damaris Thu, 14 May 2009 03:38:59 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-310155 Arizona shouldve taken that crown HOME!!! SCREW CALIFORNIA HIZZO Arizona shouldve taken that crown HOME!!! SCREW CALIFORNIA HIZZO

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]]> By: MmMmMm http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-309261 MmMmMm Wed, 13 May 2009 13:40:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-309261 And those marriage contracts were typically arranged through a representative within a religion: A matchmaker in the Jewish religion, between royalty within the Church of England, between heads of families or the patriarch in Muslim families. Separation of Church and State is a relatively new idea because for most of history, religious beliefs have colored for good and bad the actions of different populations. Keep everyone’s rights protected and give churches their marriages while giving same-sex couples civil unions with full legal and social rights. And those marriage contracts were typically arranged through a representative within a religion: A matchmaker in the Jewish religion, between royalty within the Church of England, between heads of families or the patriarch in Muslim families.

Separation of Church and State is a relatively new idea because for most of history, religious beliefs have colored for good and bad the actions of different populations.

Keep everyone’s rights protected and give churches their marriages while giving same-sex couples civil unions with full legal and social rights.

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]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308656 Annie Tue, 12 May 2009 19:47:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308656 Marriage has religious connotations? Only to those who aren't educated enough to remember the thousands of years where marriage was a contract that often occurred between two families and not the marrying individuals themselves. Have we so quickly forgotten the dowry stuff? What do you think that is other than payment? Marriage has religious connotations? Only to those who aren’t educated enough to remember the thousands of years where marriage was a contract that often occurred between two families and not the marrying individuals themselves.

Have we so quickly forgotten the dowry stuff? What do you think that is other than payment?

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]]> By: daisyfly http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308626 daisyfly Tue, 12 May 2009 19:27:22 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308626 "Marriage has a religious connotation." Perhaps to those who are followers of certain religions, but what about those who do not? The issue of marriage should be a legal one. Stop trying to make it one about religion “Marriage has a religious connotation.”

Perhaps to those who are followers of certain religions, but what about those who do not?

The issue of marriage should be a legal one.

Stop trying to make it one about religion

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]]> By: MmMmMm http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308613 MmMmMm Tue, 12 May 2009 19:10:22 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308613 As far as a personal comment, Duh - you are so hostile and irrationally nasty that further conversation with you is a waste of my time. As far as a personal comment, Duh – you are so hostile and irrationally nasty that further conversation with you is a waste of my time.

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]]> By: MmMmMm http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308609 MmMmMm Tue, 12 May 2009 19:04:21 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308609 None, Duh - same-sex isn't a federal issue yet. (EEO = federal agency) Do you own research – instead of trying to slam mine. You will also find that a sueing church was suggested by several gay activists as a means to get the issue in the courts. I advocate equal rights for everyone - even people who dare to be religious! None, Duh – same-sex isn’t a federal issue yet. (EEO = federal agency) Do you own research – instead of trying to slam mine. You will also find that a sueing church was suggested by several gay activists as a means to get the issue in the courts.
I advocate equal rights for everyone – even people who dare to be religious!

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]]> By: duh http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308561 duh Tue, 12 May 2009 18:22:55 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308561 funny, I only suggested to you what you suggested to me. maybe you should take your own advice. "Catholic adoption agencies are currently in court because they refused to place children in the homes of same-sex couples. That church was told to comply or lose tax exempt status - instead they closed down their adoption agencies in the state of Massachusetts." church? or adoptions agency? and which ones? can you give me a source? and did that agency accept state or federal funding? you know, funding that would force them to comply with federal or state EEO laws? give me the whole story, please. churches having tax-exempt status is different from receiving federal funding. as someone who is SO clearly knowledgeable in the law, you should know that. and you didn't answer my question. how many CHURCHES (your original argument, you're now comparing apples and oranges) have been sued for refusing to perform same-sex marriages? funny, I only suggested to you what you suggested to me. maybe you should take your own advice.

“Catholic adoption agencies are currently in court because they refused to place children in the homes of same-sex couples. That church was told to comply or lose tax exempt status – instead they closed down their adoption agencies in the state of Massachusetts.”

church? or adoptions agency? and which ones? can you give me a source? and did that agency accept state or federal funding? you know, funding that would force them to comply with federal or state EEO laws? give me the whole story, please.

churches having tax-exempt status is different from receiving federal funding. as someone who is SO clearly knowledgeable in the law, you should know that.

and you didn’t answer my question. how many CHURCHES (your original argument, you’re now comparing apples and oranges) have been sued for refusing to perform same-sex marriages?

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]]> By: MmMmMm http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308490 MmMmMm Tue, 12 May 2009 17:19:42 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308490 Duh – Do you really have to be insulting to try and make your point? Catholic adoption agencies are currently in court because they refused to place children in the homes of same-sex couples. That church was told to comply or lose tax exempt status - instead they closed down their adoption agencies in the state of Massachusetts. How many children in need of homes are now not receiving services? Churches, in effect, receive government money through their tax exception status and for their members to get tax credit for church donations. The EEO has the legal right to enforce all organizations comply with legal decisions of the courts as in it could force churches to perform gay marriages or obtain PRIVATE status - thereby losing the legal protections they currently have. I’m not anti-gay people or anti-gay rights. A legal union would offer the same protection without churches being forced to lose their rights. Marriage has a religious connotation. I agree legal unions could take place outside of churches, but I do not think any one should be legally forced to accept the values of someone else. Duh – Do you really have to be insulting to try and make your point?

Catholic adoption agencies are currently in court because they refused to place children in the homes of same-sex couples. That church was told to comply or lose tax exempt status – instead they closed down their adoption agencies in the state of Massachusetts. How many children in need of homes are now not receiving services?
Churches, in effect, receive government money through their tax exception status and for their members to get tax credit for church donations. The EEO has the legal right to enforce all organizations comply with legal decisions of the courts as in it could force churches to perform gay marriages or obtain PRIVATE status – thereby losing the legal protections they currently have.

I’m not anti-gay people or anti-gay rights. A legal union would offer the same protection without churches being forced to lose their rights. Marriage has a religious connotation. I agree legal unions could take place outside of churches, but I do not think any one should be legally forced to accept the values of someone else.

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]]> By: duh http://www.celebitchy.com/50565/miss_california_pageant_directors_in_impassioned_press_conference_nuder_photos_of_prejean_are_out/#comment-308455 duh Tue, 12 May 2009 16:47:44 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=50565#comment-308455 "If any organization refuses to enact a legal action based on nothing more then perceived prejudice, then that organization is subject to court action." only if that org must comply with the EEO law (or accepts donations, either monetary or physical, from the fed gov LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS DID). churches do not. separation of church and state ring a bell at all? gay marriage has been legal in several states for a few years now. how many churches in those states have been sued, or faced court action, for not marrying a gay couple? perhaps YOU should read up on legal issues since you don't seem to know what you're talking about. “If any organization refuses to enact a legal action based on nothing more then perceived prejudice, then that organization is subject to court action.”

only if that org must comply with the EEO law (or accepts donations, either monetary or physical, from the fed gov LIKE THE BOY SCOUTS DID). churches do not. separation of church and state ring a bell at all?

gay marriage has been legal in several states for a few years now. how many churches in those states have been sued, or faced court action, for not marrying a gay couple?

perhaps YOU should read up on legal issues since you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about.

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