The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s week-long Canadian vacation is over! I’ll be nice about it, because they actually did more than I was expecting. I thought there would be at least a full 24-hour period where they would be MIA, on vacation at some Canadian resort or something, but that didn’t happen. These are photos from William and Kate’s appearance in Haida Gwaii on Friday. They were touring a First Nations Heritage center on the island.
There’s a big controversy about these photos, specifically what they were wearing in these photos. No, the controversy isn’t over Kate’s jeggings, although I would love it if the Queen spearheaded a Jeggings Intervention (“We’re here because we love you and support you, but we’re asking you to go into jeggings rehab for the sake of monarchy”). The real controversy was that William and Kate wore scarves trimmed with otter fur. They’re literally wearing Benedict Cumberbatch’s relatives around their necks!
To be completely fair to Will and Kate, they didn’t choose these scarves. These scarves were given to them by the First Nations Haida community “as a sign of welcome and respect.” A lot of animal-rights activists and anti-fur people believe that Will and Kate should have taken a stand when they were offered the scarves, but then there would be a whole other controversy about how the Cambridges disrespected the First Nations community. You can read more about the otter-fur controversy here and here. The Haida representatives really did give them the scarves to wear as a sign of respect, you know? Will and Kate were between a rock and a hard place, and I’m not sure what else they should have done.
Beyond the Cumberbatch-fur scarf, Kate’s ensemble was okay. The jeggings are Zara, the blouse (which is polka-dotted, lacy AND pussybowed!) is Somerset by Alice Temperley, and the blazer is from Smythe. Kate has the same blazer in navy and she wears that one all the time. I don’t mind the olive-green vibe she’s working, and her brown cowboy boots look so much better with olive rather than black.
Last thing: the Daily Mail had a rather exhaustive story about how hard everyone on Team Cambridge worked to pull off this flawless (??) Canadian tour – you can read the piece here. For six whole days of touring, dozens of people had to put in six months of work. Allegedly. I’m sure Poor Jason did work his fingers to the nub, but it actually seemed like the bulk of these events were thrown together in the month proceeding the trip. In any case, Will and Kate did well enough. Do they want a medal for it?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
The Canadian paper globe & mail ran a headline that on their last day they “focused on mental health. ” I thought maybe they got a massage and did some journaling.
The Scarves by Lisa Hageman Yahganaas, they are a Raven’s Tail weave with Abalone BUTTONS( lol) and Sea Otter. The Significance of the scarves are : Haida are a Matriarchal society, and weaving is the domain women NOT men, the Haida women are bringing this art form back from near extinction. The Abalone buttons are traditionally used one Haida Button Blankets or Chilcat Blankets ( the Robes) . Sea otter was hunted by the Haida ( to extinction in Haida territorial waters which is why they had to trade for the fur on the scarves) as a trade good it was the basis of their historical trade with Europeans . The scarves are symbolic of a past that was nearly extinct and is being brought back to life. Traditional greeting from canoe was fine and the presentation in the Performance house was spine tingling with the children dancing. ( the event was live fed) Everyone was laughing and giggling at the story telling, william saluted the Matriarchs, and Hereditary Chiefs in Haida ( a language that was brought back from near extinction) all a nod to the devastation of the residential act. The HAIDA royalty present were well pleased.Kate and William then had private tour. The press might have been pissed off , but it was during these private times they got opportunity to talk more freely.The LNG protesters were respectful and welcoming to the couple as per the Matriarchs wishes. And from a perspective of Haida Gwaii it was extremely successful. Everyone was happy and relaxed. As for yesterday, Cridge and SALTs ARE mental health family oriented. Personally I don’t like SALTS as it has a Christian Fundementalist bent, but that’s just me. I have worked along side Cridge. The afternoon was capped off by a private reception at Gov. HOuse. I said from day one this WASNT a traditional tour, it was THROWN Together. BUT the actual people hosting tour destinations worked very hard to host royals, and most of them will see huge dividends as you all have talked about their communities and issues where before you might not have had any knowledge. Ps George is my new spirit animal. Lol
More great insider info, thanks Tia!
Thanks for the insight Tia!
Did the places they go warrant cowboy boots? I get the sense sometimes that non Pacific coasters, think it’s the Wild West everywhere west of the Rockies.
If they are a First Nation gift, it’s sad but symbolic. Aboriginals by law can hunt animals that are in sensitive habitat to endangered lists. It’s not like they shopped at forever 21 or whatever. (The jegging thing is more offensive although now that I’ve lost weight I too feel so rights in tights)
Thanks for that insider info, Tia!
I think this tour went really well, and the children are adorable!
HAHAHAHA!! Everyone needs Me Time when they’ve worked for one continuous week!
If you read Tia’s response, the focused on mental health organizations not their own.
Compared to the India/Bhutan tour this went well regardless that he didn’t read his briefing notes and she didn’t outright flash people (there were a few hints here and there). They also don’t seem to have outright pissed off the press pack, thou am sure the ‘behind the scenes’ gossip will come out soon enough. Her fashion and hair were finally on point – thou her shoe game really needs work. Someone needs to burn the Zara skinny jeans, beige heels and all the wedges. For them this was a success.
As for the fur – it would have been very disrespectful if they had refused it, considering that the purpose of this tour was for them to support the Canadian gov in their reconcillary efforts with the First Nation peoples (thou I don’t think the Buckets were the right choice for this – Chuck and Cams or Harry would have been a better fit).
These 2 and their obsession with tight clothing is really urgh – i don’t want to see your wares thank you very much.
It is almost like they think tightness is the way to signal they’re “regular people” which if true would be insulting to “regular people.”
Some dm commenters were saying they could see a 2012 Canadian quarter in her pocket.
There was some complaining by the press on Twitter about the last sailing event where they didn’t allow any press on the boat and they didn’t face the press boat for any pictures. This event wasn’t a mental health one either.
I don’t care about the scarves. It was a gift that they couldn’t refuse. I am more offended by her skin tight jeggings that she thinks is appropriate to wear for anything but clubbing. She could have worn trousers or jeans that were less skin tight. It is skanky for an event where she is supposedly representing the crown. May as well get a kardashian in there.
This is the same event where she rudely disembarked the canoe blowing off everyone and even Will had to call her back so she could thank them.
Many moments of rudeness are starting to come out. And I suspect the UK press will have a few articles criticizing them. The Canadian press won’t bother because these two will be forgotten by the end of the day.
I’m also more offended by how tight her jeans are.
Re: the canoe incident, i saw the video – it was extremely rude but she has a history of stroppy/rude behaviour that pre date the wedding. Am sure there are many more incidents that will come out of her/their rudeness. Willy make be a twit but he has more manners than she.
Agreed. To refuse a gift would cause a major diplomatic kerfuffle. But jeggings, no matter how low-key the event, are, IMO, inappropriate for any official outing. I’m surprised she’s gotten away with them for so long.
Skanky?
Skanky? Kardashians? You’re reaching…it’s skinny jeans or jeggings as some you call them. She doesn’t have her stomach and boobs out for Christ’s sake!
As someone who wears skinny jeans all year round and jeggings with my boots in fall/winter, I get the look that Kate is going for, but her mistake is (imo) to wear jeggings in a light enough shade that she might as well be naked from the waist down. Just NO, ffs. Black, navy, espresso, charcoal, dark olive–all are within the realm of modesty, but even a slightly lighter hue can become downright embarrassing, and these jeggings are that. This was her one real fashion misstep on this tour.
@Betti what did she do that was rude?
Can anyone link the story of her stomping away from the canoe? A quick google search only shows glowing reports of their amazingness on this tour.
She has a work dress code. It is different than your work or play dress code.
Her jeans and jeggins are always inappropriate for her role. Trousers would be appropriate, painted on jeggins and jeans are not. Why do so many people pretend not to understand this basic point?
Betti, you will not be hearing behind the scenes gossip from those civilians who met , interacted them at actual events about rudeness ,they were very polite and VERY diplomatic. There was NO stomping off canoe, that’s a personal bias interpretation. It was a more formal greeting from Herediatary Chiefs ( they are wearing more formal blankets)than I have seen before ,but I have never seen official Royal visit. Whatever I might personally think about William and Kate’s personal work ethic, if the Royals could get them to do lots of tours like this one…that would be interesting. This was by far the most controversial political fire storm they have faced and they didn’t fluck it up. Those that hate the crown hate the crown, those that think the royals are useless will think they are useless, but some people will now be curious what these two COULD evolve into if only they would learn to consistently show up for ” work” . Clearly their satisfaction is derived from their children, whereas Harry only has is work -But as those children get older….well who knows.
Tia, everyone gets to view the video and decide for themselves. Many see rude behavior and stomping, typical of W&K.
I noticed the same thing – that she just got out of the canoe without telling anyone a thing. Shocking really. That is Manners 101 – say goodbye; say thank you to someone assisting you.
I’ve said this before, but there’s just something about HOW tight her skinny jeans/jeggings are that makes me uncomfortable. You can wear skinny jeans or simple straight leg jeans in a professional (or more professional) manner. This pic is a good example: http://timetoshiftyourstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/1.jpg .
She dresses and behaves to titilate William; the thigh touching, the too tight jeggings, the lack of underwear under floaty hem weightless dresses etc… Its geared to keeping his wandering attention on her – the only thing Kate cares about is him and keeping him interested in her.
HH, I agree. William looks nice and professional and still modern in his jeans. Hers are the equivalent of male hipster skinny jeans and just don’t seem appropriate at all. The photo you linked is a perfect example of how she could look more dignified yet still casual.
Betti, I would think there are other, more effective ways she could titillate William, jmo.
I agree about the skinny jeans/jeggings. I’m not quite as skinny as Kate, but I’m slim and wear leggings and skinny jeans with boots all the time in the fall and winter. I think the difference is that I also always wear loose sweaters or long tops that cover my crotch and bottom with them.
I think that’s kind of the unspoken fashion rule, and that’s why Kate looks so inappropriate. The only time it’s not odd to see the whole lower body outlined like that on a 30+ woman is when they’re wearing yoga pants and a tank top to the gym or something, you know? I’d have no problem with her skinny jeans if her tops weren’t also so form-fitting and her bits weren’t outlined.
yes HerroK, leggings and skinny jeans under a longer top are fine, but this is not a good look and isn’t really appropriate either. Native people have a different relationship with fur than incomers, it wasn’t flaunting their affluence, it was the only clothes they could use that kept them alive, so I don’t have a particular problem with the scarves.
“She dresses and behaves to titilate William”
@Betti,
Ding, ding,ding. This is the same conclusion I have reached after years of her inappropriate skirt flying moments. If William had a problem with it, she would have stopped years ago. I think he likes it and she is always up for pleasing him and keeping him from looking at other women. Her Mom no doubt also encourages it for similar reasons. Remember she first got Wills to notice her while doing an almost naked public modeling thing.
The Queen and Prince Philip won’t dare say anything for fear of looking like a repeat of “bullying Princess Diana and causing eating disorders” stories. She doesn’t care about the press or plebeians. William is ALWAYS her audience.
+1
They did fine. Kate looked fine. I don’t get the controversy over the scarfs, if the Haida give you an otter scarf to wear, you wear it. You don’t disrespect the Haida. The premier of BC, Christy Photo Op disrespected first nations all week by prancing about photobombing the royals and wearing first nations designs and they are pissed over it. She even wore first nation design to a photo op about a mega LNG plant on their territory, which endangers salmon habitat. That is disrespect.
Thank you Tessy, that’s exactly what I was thinking everytime I saw Christy with her blank grin every day wearing native designs. Seriously WTF, complete delusion Christy? Or an errorgant FU to Native communities in BC, take your pick.
I was wondering who she was! That explains a lot!
Haida should have known about Williams conservation beliefs and another gift should have been offered, it was supposed to have taken 6 months planning. Saying that the 2 should have stuck up for their principals and refused to wear the dead animal skins. William has just stopped his campaign against ivory. Hypocrisy? As for the jeans grow up, what about the animals!
I respectfully disagree, the Queen and Charles have toured Haida Gwaii before. They are TO FORMAL and are from a failed era in of Indigiounous/ Crown. While they would have been greeted with honour new younger community leaders would see them as obviously out of touch.William and Kate are , rightly or wrongly,are a symbol of the future the next step to the thrown as it were. Harry , while I personally would want a visit from, is ONLY a SECOND SON of POW and to send him him to meet Indigiounous People in contested Terratory, when Kate and will are Always available would have been…um insulting. WHen you wear the big crown, you don’t send someone who will never be a Herediatary Chief, to sit with Matriarchs and Herediatry Chiefs.( that was done in the past, as natives were viewed as sub humans, those days are over) visits from Governor General or Lt. GOvernor ( very lovely people) are dismissed . And Right now Premier and Prime Minister are unwelcome in most Terratory. Which is why Trudea got his photo ops and ran for the hills, after throwing the royals under the bus. ” poor” Jason….wasn’t he having a long nap?
You can never say ‘never’ with the line of succession of the BRF. There gave been more 2nd+ born children ending up as monarch than the first born.
In recent memory, HM’s father and grandfather were 2nd sons.
Tia, you are talking about W&K who caused an international incident when they only offered 15 minutes to a Maori King in New Zealand. William who upset people and China due to his poor manners and inappropriate behavior. Neither is a diplomatic wunderkind.
Your interpretation of how HM and Charles act is merely your opinion. Other people are allowed say that W&K were far too informal, which is offensive to their hosts.
Notasugarhere, I answered LAK, agreeing with her about never say never, it’s being moderated. BUT I said Here and Now. My statement wasn’t about how ROYALS act, it’s about how native leaders feel visa vie their relationship with the symbolic crown. You just pointed out what I’ve been saying all week (to be fair,moderators know Who I am and are being very good about keeping this tour gossip friendly and respectful )this is not a usual trip, they WERE highly prepared for trip to Haida Nation. They have learned from huge mistakes, BUT more importantly I have a huge shift of understanding of how a ” Royal tour” actually is handled. Most of that action happens in the host country, by the host governments -what THEY think should be highlighted. Royals have requests that may or may not be ignored. This was successful because it was NOT a big formal tour, with a shotgun approach to coverall things at once ( highlighting how out of their depth the couple are). Forget what BS media stories are putting out about huge crowds etc. This was a very tight tour with a very political focus as dictated by Liberal Government, but they crammed in a lot in a week. And in that respect Kate and William did brilliantly, whether that’s sustainable is dependant of that JASON learned from this trip.
Again, your opinion is only that of one person. Presuming to speak for every person in Canada that this was a welcome and successful tour is inappropriate and reaching beyond extreme.
Tia, i wasn’t disagreeing with you about the status thing, just pointing out a misunderstanding in your original statement that Harry could NEVER be important based upon his birth order.
Further, as signalled by the Jubilee Balcony, Harry is being kept as close to the throne as possible even if his status is dropping. If we are to believe Charles’s intentions as signalled by the balcony appearance, Harry + his future wife will be as important as William and his family. Everyone else will be cut off.
LAK I have agreed with you twice, but it isn’t making past Mods, I might be giving away to much insider info referencing pictures and Vid Celebitchy can’t share. I adore Harry from a military perspective. I’m referring to how Indigiounos Communities view the Crown. Not how we view Harry. It’s the symbolism I keep talking about.
They are diplomats it would’ve been a sign of disrespect had they refused. It’s not endorsing fur it’s respecting another culture. Its not like they killed the animal just for the fur like they do for fashions sake. Non issue to me
I agree. I have never worn fur and otters are one of my favourite animals, but I would have accepted the gift from that particular community, thanked them and kept it as a treasured gift – even if I had to keep it in a box because looking at it would freak me out. In cases like this it is all about respect.
Agreed. I was horrified that anyone still uses real fur but it would have been a diplomatic faux pas to refuse. Sometime respect for another culture requires we set aside our own.
I’ve never really cared about her jeggings, but wowza, those are too tight to be at all professional.
Something to cover her bum would help…but defeat her apparent purpose.
Hahaha so true. Kate doesn’t want to be demure.
How does Harry wear regular clothes and manage to look so much more relaxed and fesh than his brother?
And did Will only pack one sweater?
This was a little to matchy match for me. It also reminded me of a feminine safari done in olive green.
That second picture… Stepford Duchess – malfunctioning – bzzztt
😂😂😂
Do people really not understand the difference between those who wear fur for the sake of wearing fur and those who, if and when they kill an animal, every part of it gets eaten and used, to show respect for the life that was sacrificed? This kind of idiocy gives real activists and vegetarians/vegans a bad name.
Nope, they really don’t! Critical thinking has been out of fashion for decades now.
Yes, THANK YOU! There is a difference between fur being used as part of industry and capitalism, and how First Nations individuals used fur.
HH:Um except that is a hypocritical position ” there is a difference…..”Haida hunted Sea Otter to extinction in their territorial waters to trade for other goods, the fur on those scarves was traded for, and it is added to goods that are sold. It isn’t just used for regalia . Indigiounous people Trap fur to make commerial coats for Jill and Joe citizen of the world, because THAT IS their traditional activity, trapping/ hunting for commercial trade. It’s hypocritical to differentiate natives vs non natives, either you are for something or against it. some of us hunt for food and use as much as we can of the animal because of where we live, what we readily have access to and astronomical cost of what is commercially available, that is our culture colour of our skin or DNA is irrelevant .It is what it is . BUT in Canada ,natives do club baby seals, or trap other fur bearers for ladies coats, they argue it is their Historical Indigionous right as they have ALWAYS “commercially” traded those goods for others. These otters aren’t being eaten just their fur taken. I’m Switzerland either way …it just frustrates me when people say it’s ok for one group to do something for whatever reason, but not another.
All the applause to you. I am so tired of the manufactured outrage.
It would have been more of a problem if they had refused the gift.
Mean Hannah, ITA. I hate the idea of killing otters, but my real issues are animal cruelty and pointless killing, neither of which apply here. They did the right thing accepting the gift.
No, animal rights activists don’t care about culture, history, or logic.
Merritt:
That is a terrible thing to say. Right at this moment, there are live animals being tortured in cosmetics labs so that people can buy cheap eyeliner at WalMart. There are cows being forcibly impregnated, to have their babies repeatedly stolen from them, so that our stores can be packed with cheap packaged foods containing diary.
Don’t dismiss those horrors just because a few people acted inappropriately in this isolated scenario.
That is an awful thing to say, Merritt. As bad as saying non-animal rights active don’t give a damn about torture and suffering.
Actually, we can all learn a lot more about our own culture, history and logic if we open our minds to animal rights issues. Animal rights are inextricably linked to human rights — from the psychological effects of slaughterhouse work to climate change itself — and it’s always telling when people use this particular argument to brush off animal welfare concerns. It’s convenient, I know, painting humane treatment as illogical…
THANK YOU! I also find activists criticizing the FN a little bit racist when they get spazzy about the First Nations wearing fur.
Yes! I don’t think people eating chicken from factories and typical beef should be all judgy about the First Nations use of fur….
The only memorable parts of this tour are the kids. Honestly, all the headlines I’ve read/seen were about the kids. W&K lack the charisma to create memorable moments. Finally, I feel the India/Bhutan tour received more hype and attention than this one.
Agreed! The video of the kids waving goodbye made me think they were so much more charismatic than their parents and they’re only toddlers!
I agree. The tour didn’t get a lot of coverage at all unless the kids were on show. So weird.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
As it should be. They don’t *do* enough and when they’re ‘working’, it shows that they don’t give two flips about anyone or any cause but themselves. Their work style = Just going through the motions.
My feelings exactly Cat!
I will third this.
If all of their activities were planned to the last detail months in advance, and if either had a problem with fur, they could have requested faux fur. But these two hunt so I don’t believe they care about this.
Also – Kate needs to drop the skin tight jeans and jegggings for official outings/duties. They’re not professional at all and a bit desperate to keep showing off.
A face full of heavy makeup and skin tight pants and cowboy boots just don’t work. I would have accepted the gift of fur and been gracious, but no way on Earth would I have worn it. She has the face and Pippa has the body. Not a good or bad thing, just the way it is. Must be awful to be under the microscope all the time, but it is what it is.
I’m theoretically against wearing fur, especially for wealthy, privileged people, but indigenous cultures have a much different historical relationship with fur (and hunting), and many animal rights activists probably couldn’t care less about the deep poverty indigenous people live in.
I’m also a bit fed up with the number of anti-fur people I encounter who have no issue with wearing alligator or snakeskin, because those animals aren’t cute and cuddly, I guess. They aren’t killed any less violently, and the hypocrisy just makes me angry. Don’t be self-righteous if you’re not consistent with your own practices.
This.
I have the biggest issue with anti-fur people who wear leather. Obviously they need to head down to a cattle yard and have a peek at what goes on.
I cannot imagine the outrage if they would have refused the scarves. It would have been a huge political incident, the likes of which their trip is supposed to be helping smooth over.
It’s not the same. As long as there is a meat industry, there will be leather. No need to produce fur on top of that (not talking about the indigenous culture, but about the industry).
Of course this doesn’t include alligator and snakeskin, but I have never met someone interested in animal rights who wore them.
To me, honestly, arguments like “the anti-fur people who wear leather” just mean there’s someone searching for excuses.
@Melly M
I think it might depend on context and environment. I work at a small arts college, and the cognitive dissonance bewilders me. The young women I see who will extol the virtues of being vegetarians and anti-fur to me, and the next week show off their new python handbag, just make me shake my head.
Melly M: The leather and meet industry do not use the same cows for their best products. You have to feed cows differently if you want them to produce quality milk, quality meat or quality leather. So while leather is indeed also a side product of meat industry, that only goes for the cheaper one (for the manufacturer). I eat meat and wear leather too, but I cannot fool myself that some cows are not bred and killed for the sake of my shoes, not my lunch.
Yes, but if you only wore the shoes and didn’t eat the meat you would already be 50 % better as a person.
Patricia: I personally disagree with that. You either take a stand or you don’t. I’m not. But I find people who claim they do not eat meat for ethical reasons but still wear leather clothes or shoes very hypocritical.
Ok, then we agree to disagree. I don’t see them as hypocrites, but as people who aren’t perfect. But for me, someone like that is still a much better person than someone who does nothing.
Agree to some extent. Years ago I was given a fur coat. It was a cold winter and I wore it. It did keep me warm. I got many side eye comments and jokingly said the animal died of old age. I no longer have the coat. I eat meat which comes all nice and packaged and doesn’t resemble the animal that died to feed me. When you’re an animal lover like I am, it does seem wrong to torture and kill the fox, snake, alligator, whatever to have high fashion. So unless you’re a vegan, it’s hard to survive without an animal sacrificed to feed or dress you. Very tough decisions we have to make.
You don’t necessarily have to do 100 % of everything possible or nothing. 80 % is a lot, I think.
I agree that it can be very difficult — and expensive — to make ethical decisions about how to eat and dress, and so much of this does depend on context. Used furs, for example, I don’t really have any problem with. I’ve inherited furs in the past, and I’ve chosen to donate them. And to be quite honest, I don’t feel comfortable with forcing my own beliefs on others, which is one of the reasons why I find those activists I mentioned so tiresome (especially when, as I said, they don’t even follow their own rules). Activists can do a tremendous amount of good, but a superiority complex doesn’t help their cause at all, especially when it’s directed at individuals.
May I be completely honest: I think they are superior and the people who have a problem with them secretly know that, too, and don’t like it – of course.
@ Patricia
Their beliefs are the same as mine! I just think making others feel like they’re horrible people for eating meat (which is the approach some of them take) accomplishes absolutely nothing for animal rights. Especially when these so-called superior people can’t be bothered to include animals that aren’t “cute” in their own practices, which I pointed out at the start.
I think the real story that needs to come out is about their behavior on this trip. Kate’s rudeness to people, the Cambridge’s ignoring hotel staff in Whitehorse, William’s lack of interest in the briefing papers. Kate should have read them, as well. These two are real losers. It doesn’t matter what they are wearing because they are ugly inside.
Kate’s rudeness is nothing new – there was a story a few years ago from one of their, now ex, protection officers about how rude she was to KP staff, he was subsequently sacked. The title and position as future Queen consort has gone to her empty little head. The fact that William had to call her back to properly thank the people on the canoe is very telling of her attitude to ‘work’, we know what his is – hers is just as bad, if not worse. He at least behaves with some manners.
The Middleton’s sold a dud to the BRF – Pippa would have been a better bet. She at least has the temperament for public life and does a lot for charity. Kate is just as entitled and spoilt as William is.
@Betti wow that is upsetting to here. Why don’t people know this about them? But as always the truth will always come out one way or another. Honestly for some reason if Harry marries a “Diana” in terms of work ethic and glamour William and Kate lost and people might want Harry as King.
How was Kate rude to people? Also, I am telling you I do not think these two will be King and Queen in the future.
It was when disembarking from the canoe, see clip below:
https://twitter.com/_mio/status/781936543782936576
Add to that the fact that she turned her back on the Trudeaus at the arrival, did the same thing to a kid who handed her a bouquet yesterday at the departure, and both William and Kate behaved in a shoddy manner when they stayed at the hotel in Whitehorse. Very poor behavior on all accounts – and those are the incidents we know about so far. There were probably others, too. For as petulant and obnoxious as William is, I now have the impression that Kate is even worse.
Their personal behaviour to pliebs is best explained in Downton Abby…the life I’m sure sure they aspire to lead. But using this Twitter to prove rudeness is gross. When you could show actual whole greeting which was extensively filmed.They had already met everyone when they got on the canoe at Skidegate landing, and clearly Kate waived goodbye, the Welcome on the beach and to keep the Haida ROYALY waiting there would been a breach of protocol.
Tia: it is incredibly ruďe not to thank people. Only an ill-mannered person would do that. The video shows William thanking them whilst Kate just walks off. The fact that William called her back to thank them demonstrates how rude that was.
If you look at the canoe disembarking I think she doesn’t stomp off but she does come across as quite affected with the way she walks off
It wouldn’t have taken her any more time to thank the canoeists than it did for her to adjust her wedgie from her skin tight pants. I would be surprised if the Haida Royalty would have been miffed. Kate was clearly rude.
LAK it’s a 16 Twitter second snippet . Not video ,news footage in public domain puts it into perspective of who’s waiting.I explained elsewhere why they needed to get quickly onto beach. Do not assume what you believe would or would not offend. Everyone was hyper sensative regarding LNG announcement. I’m trying to share what knowledge I have. not gossip. I have been trying to remove all reference to my personal antipathy to these two. Please don’t judge me for that. I’m just hyper sensative as a white persona adopted into a clan about protocol.
Tia, clearly you don’t understand a very specific cultural point if you think it’s impossible to say thank you in less than 16seconds and or why it’s important to use ‘thank you’ in your relations with people.
Infact, how you treat the lower orders is considered more important and a demonstration of your character than how you treat your betters.
I hope the press pack writes about these incidents, they have been quite vocal about complaints they had especially emily andrews. Cant wait to read what they all write this coming week
Of course the press is pissed, they have been shut out of events. Nothing new there Williams MO…but this tour has been a curious twist, shut out press, or only allow limited credentials, and charm the ever loving heck out of the people that have been vetted to talk to you at events.( people highly qualified in their fields ) those people tell everyone they know how engaged, polite and charming couple are. And NOBODY speaks to press
I know Vava! But sugarcoated comments are to be found in British press!
Anyway Im waiting for Invictus games and Harry in Canada …now that should be good!!
Yes bring Harry! IM thrilled Invictus 2015 is during our big birthday celebration. Next year is Canada’s 150 birthday, I was shocked that Trudeau wasn’t inviting Kate and William to that but rather, this PR glossing over of His FU to BC Indigionous community.
Does anyone have the link to the video of the canoe incident?
See Betti’s link above. How rude. She doesn’t have to do much. Ever. To have to be reminded to acknowledge the plebs, so not gracious.
When I first saw it, I assumed she was hurrying up the beach to greet the elder who was coming to greet her. At second view, I still think that, but it wouldn’t have taken much time to say goodbye, either. At third viewing, I noticed some weird Kate quirks: her jeans are so tight she does a quick adjustment with her leg to get the jeans, um, out & then after letting go of William with her left hand she pats herself on the crotch.
I’ve noticed this keep kind of thing before when she wears her skinny jeans, that pat. With her flimsy dresses, she does a quick swipe of her backside with her left hand after she gets out of a car. I can only attribute this to her lack of undies or wearing thong. Ugh. Must stop watching video of this pair. Although I think it would behoove her team to watch videos of their events & give her some honest feedback.
betti did not provide video , it is a Twitter clip…I’m getting steamed about this because we all can look at a crap load evidence off rude inappropriate behaviour of these two historically . BUT do not use THIS INSTANCE. As i have explained up thread in my comments. None of you were at this greeting , performance in Kay or small luncheon or anywhere near Haida Gwaii during this event.If you were -there other than credentialed press , hi there I who you are , you know me….Protocol required them to get their ass off that canoe and up to be met by waiting HAIDA ROYALTY. If you stop to talk to the doorman while the Queen is standing on the beach waiting YOU are rude!
Is it really necessary to write with capital letters? Why so intense!?
Nobody asked her to stop and make small talk to a door man. A simple thank you and head nod will suffice!
Tia, no need to get steamed. The video clip speaks for itself. I think stopping to thank the doorman while the Queen is waiting is very kind. It’s not rude, it’s good manners.
William managed to thank them.
And the Queen would notice if you didn’t thank someone holding the door for you. It’s a less than a second exchange, and it demonstrates good manners.
I already took a breath down thread LAK, and comment about gossip. We are all really on edge about this visit to Haida Gwaii after the LNG announcement. Whole swaths of Haida Nation on Island refused to show up for this event because they knew hyper vigilance to Haida Protocal. I mentioned gathering Wednesday night to determine how this visit would be dealt with in basis that announcement. I’m capitalizing to emphasize particular points, not to shout. You keep insisting Kate was rude ( I understand from our perspective she was, I’m not defending that) I’m defending the importance of getting up that beach watch the greeting and being received by Haida Royalty. In Haida Culure they STILL reenact killing of slaves to be placed under pole during raising ( more slaves killed higher status) they would be eagle eyed about Status and very protective of it . ( they can be extremely warm and gracious people) but they are sticklers for protocol, especially by a crown who they have a huge grievance against. our Queen wouldn’t think anything about our kindness to doorman, But this is a different culture. That’s the point of this visit Reconciliation , which means respecting the other culture. William was very well briefed about this leg of the visit. It was Trudeau jewel set piece of tour. It was really important political / internationally to us of Haida Gwaii.
Ladies I tried to add to my comment, because I’m coming off as rude to you and that isn’t my intent. I know this is a gossip site. But tommorow this tour will mean nothing to international royal watchers but I am a white woman adopted into a Haida Clan, I still have to straddle a world of working in BC Capital and going home where I have to defend us versus them. It’s not unique to just being white my blood cousins, adopted family and children are status- we all straddle this past wrongs, modern betrayals ( governments three bomb shell announcements ) and how we reconcile this. This visit is symbolically important, I wouldn’t be so testy if Trudeau hadn’t made any announcements until after visit. Haida were thrilled at Royals coming but then a wound was opened 3 days before they arrived. Again I apologize if it comes off that I am critizing you ladies.
If they had refused to wear the scarfs it would have caused an international incident. It would have livened up what has otherwise been a dull tour, but I imagine HM wouldnt have appreaciated it
Ever second of the public events on tour is planned to the minute detail. They would have been told, weeks ago, that this is what they were going to receive. If they had a problem with it, they should have done something about it then.
The only thing these two and their offspring can be praised for is the showcasing, by default, of British Columbia and Yukon, by far the real and beautiful stars of this particular show.
DM has already published a story about the $80,000+ cost of the tour wardrobe, couched as a fashion praise article.
She makes expensive clothes look not so expensive
Yes i read that – the usual Fail passive aggressive snark. Its her most expensive tour wardrobe yet! Plus i can’t believe how expensive some of that bland and invisible jewellery was. That £62k will be picked up by the Canadian and UK taxpayer.
I looked at that article. She spent quite a bit on clothes but closer to 20. They were counting things she already had.
Apart that they would have to accept them for diplomatic reasons I am of the strong opinion that native people should have extra allowances to continue their traditions even if I disapprove of it in under other circumstances like for example the inuits are alllowed to hunt whales under certain conditions. They shouldn’t be penalized for the bad behavior of white people.
As usual, internet outrage swings to one extreme. Balance and a full understanding of issues is sure lacking these days.
Wearing fur is not inherently bad. Where I am from, people hunt and eat meat and wear fur – Indigenous or not.
Plus, it was a gift. Why should they refuse it? Why should they ‘take a stand’ against wearing fur? Can you imagine if they had refused it?
[*Common sense is not-so-common.*]
I just think it’s odd that people outrage about fur but no one goes ballistic about celebs eating burgers or wearing leather shoes. If killing animals is wrong then it’s WRONG. Period. I don’t get “it’s wrong to wear their fur, but totally fine to wear their skin and eat their flesh!” Can we start having posts every time an actor wears leather shoes on the red carpet???
Why does she like these blazers with the butt cut-outs? Was there a fabric shortage? I mean, I get it, Waity, you are super-skinny and your jeggings are painted on to your a$$ but enough already. I’m more offended by once again being able to see her butt crack than I am by the otter fur.
Same. Just too tight.
I’m sure there are pants out there that won’t outline her bottom so tight so do we absolutely have to see her bottox? Does she not feel uncomfortable walking around during an official engagement with her bum on full view? I remember the French media had already given us a full preview.
Hey ho they will match the £295.00. possum gloves Kate wore on the ski slopes this year that her mother gave her for Christmas – but jokes aside it was diplomatic but I think Kate kind of likes the fur gift
Starlight, Chutney likes and prefers anything that is pricey!!!
My sympathies, for once, are with the Dolittles regarding the fur scarfs. It would have been very rude to refuse and disrespectful to their hosts’ cultural traditions.
I agree with everyone who has said the jeggings are inappropriate for official duties. There are plenty of other types of casual trousers she could wear for less formal events that would not show off her wares. However she is too much of an exhibitionist to do that.
Scarves not scarfs. Silly me.
You would have to prise those jeggings off her as it shows off her skinny legs tight bum with the cowboy boots and that comes across when she leaves the canoe
Her butt is quite flat no wonder she never wears pencil skirts.
I thought ppl were all crazy about how her butt looked
God yah….and remember camera puts on 10 pounds! And no it was her sisters pancake butt of wonder people commented on, Kate is the Legs girl. ( not to mention her biscuit and two fried eggs )
A) these were gifts from their hosts , B) Native American or First Nation peoples, particularly those in the Far North, wear fur. It’s their history & their culture, C) Kate has often worn fur & thinks nothing of it anyway.
Final snip it of gossip then I will leave, Kate and William were enpointe both in Charlotte and Skidegate ,if they were that well prepared and gracious everyday for a consistent work load ,they would be an asset to the Queen or die of exhaustion. BUT as well prepared a William was that day, Kate did it better. I’m now curious about her being held back versus lazy, something has changed there…..and I will be watching her
Don’t they know in advance what gifts they are being given? They have assistants for *everything*, I can’t imagine there isn’t a “gift coordinator” who would have had the information ahead of time, so all angles of the gift (whether it is appropriate or not) can be settled. I just can’t see them not knowing about this ahead of time, and maybe being able to say how about something else?
I truly did not comprehend how ‘work shy’ this couple was and continues to be until I read this article about the Queen’s early years. On the other hand, I believe that Kate is far more present in her children’s lives.
The article: http://www.vanityfair.com/style/society/2012/01/queen-elizabeth-201201
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Are the scarves different colours?