Miley Cyrus covers the new issue of Variety and much like her recent Elle interview, you can really feel the fact that Miley loves to get really high before she talks to journalists. And at this point, that’s like the least controversial part about her. Maybe that’s the future of celebrity journalism – more celebrities should get baked before interviews. It would make my job easier! Anyway, you can read Miley’s Variety interview here. She’s mostly talking about The Voice (she’s a judge/mentor this season) and her Woody Allen miniseries, but the most interesting part is where she talks about sexuality and gender. Some highlights:
Her wild-child persona: “People saw me as being wild, and literally all I do is I’m obsessed with yoga, I love hiking, and I’m reading constantly. My life is so positive. From the outside, people think I’m partying with rappers. That was back in my prime.”
Choosing weed: “I had a clothing line at Walmart and got kicked out, because they said you had to choose weed or Walmart. And you see what I did — I chose weed.”
Her return to acting: “I know that acting is boring. People get paid way too much for what they are doing.”
The polarized country: “This is not a dig. But I do think there’s something that goes with the Kardashians and Trump. The Kardashians are better than Trump, because they are not trying to run the country. They are just trying to be famous, and that’s fine. We are obsessed with celebrity. When Trump started this, I was laughing. I thought it’s not going to go anywhere; there’s no way he’ll be the candidate.
What she thinks of “Bernie or Bust” people: “I was a really big Bernie supporter….[but] that’s f–king crazy and you’re out of your mind. It’s literally pissing me off more than anything. If you could ever consider Donald Trump, you never understood Bernie in the first place.
Coming out as pansexual: “My whole life, I didn’t understand my own gender and my own sexuality. I always hated the word “bisexual,” because that’s even putting me in a box. I don’t ever think about someone being a boy or someone being a girl. Also, my nipple pasties and sh-t never felt sexualized to me. My eyes started opening in the fifth or sixth grade. My first relationship in my life was with a chick. I grew up in a very religious Southern family. The universe has always given me the power to know I’ll be OK. Even at that time, when my parents didn’t understand, I just felt that one day they are going to understand.
Never feeling like a girl? “My mom is like an ’80s rock chick — big blonde hair, big boobs. She loves being a girl. I never felt that way. I know some girls that love getting their nails done. I fucking hated it. My nails look like shit. I don’t wax my eyebrows. I never related to loving being a girl. And then, being a boy didn’t sound fun to me. I think the LGBTQ alphabet could continue forever. But there’s a “P” that should happen, for “pansexual.”
First identifying as pansexual: “I think when I figured out what it was. I went to the LGBTQ center here in L.A., and I started hearing these stories. I saw one human in particular who didn’t identify as male or female. Looking at them, they were both: beautiful and sexy and tough but vulnerable and feminine but masculine. And I related to that person more than I related to anyone in my life. Even though I may seem very different, people may not see me as neutral as I feel. But I feel very neutral. I think that was the first gender-neutral person I’d ever met. Once I understood my gender more, which was unassigned, then I understood my sexuality more. I was like, “Oh — that’s why I don’t feel straight and I don’t feel gay. It’s because I’m not.”
Does inequality still exist in Hollywood? “A lot of it could be changed if we had a female president. That would give us a subconscious boost. I think people will have to realize they’re looking really dated. For example, there’s a show called “Supergirl.” I think having a show with a gender attached to it is weird. One, it’s a woman on that f–king billboard — it’s not a little girl. Two, what if you’re a little boy who wants to be a girl so bad that this makes you feel bad? I think having a title like “Supergirl” doesn’t give the power that people think it does.
Her thoughts on Dylan Farrow’s accusations against Woody Allen: “I live a similar life to Woody — I live a public life. Until I know someone and I know their story, I never really judge anyone. That’s kind of how I went into it. From the way I saw him with his family, I never saw him be anything but an incredible person and a really great dad. People might slam me for saying that. I’m sure it was a hard time for that family. My family has been through hard things, and I think everyone’s suffering is different.
At some points, I do genuinely like what she says and even though I don’t believe she’s framing her pansexuality in the most understandable or accessible way, she’s trying and I do think that helps younger kids understand that it’s okay to be different. You know what I’m saying? Miley is an imperfect messenger delivering a sometimes confusing message, but that’s okay. She wants to be a spokesperson for gender fluidity, pansexuality and more, but the message becomes convoluted because Miley is also a sh-t talker and likely permanently stoned. But it’s fine. I do want to point out one thing: it’s also fine to be a cisgendered heterosexual woman who is not interested in “girly” things. Miley seems to confuse that, like she believes if you’re a woman who doesn’t get her nails done, it says something about your sexuality or gender.
As for what she says about Dylan Farrow and Woody Allen… yes, it’s problematic, and yet what else is she going to say if she’s made the choice to work with Woody?
Photos courtesy of Variety.
how is bi-sexual a box but pansexual is not a box?
(not trying to be rude to anyone, just really curious about it).
Bi is dual, pan is multi
Still a box!
This poor girl loves to hear herself talk. *yawnnn*
I try really hard to, but I don’t understand the gender neutral thing. I am a female, but I have masculine and feminine traits. I don’t get why I can’t have both and consider myself still female? My mind can’t wrap around this concept 😭
She is speaking about not being limited by labels, so your experience of your masculine and feminine qualities means you feel comfortable and represented by the title female…hers does not.
Except sex is not really what one is “comfortable with,” but, you know, scientific biological fact. Humans are a sexually dimorphic species; male and female are not terms for “feels” to decide – they are scientifically defined terms. Part of the problem is that we’re now in the “feels before reals” age that permit this kind of mess.
Except sex and gender are not the same thing.
I’m the same way…creating all these additional labels seems illogical.
That would be because you’re not high as a kite reading this self absorbed ramble.
Lmao!!!! Love it
Because you’re right. I am a woman who, all my whole life, identified far more with “male” things. To this day, a large number of people I meet agree that you could call me “butch” and not be wrong. But I have never, for one second, thought “hmm, maybe I’m (insert flavor of the week) gender.” I’m a woman. But what I do get is that society has created deep categories of “male” and “female” things are, and most of these are totally arbitrary. And I get that I am not a woman who fits neatly into the female category – but truthfully, we all deviate to some degree! I get that it’s society’s problem to solve by becoming less rigid in what it classifies into “male” and “female” as opposed to me coming up with some newfangled “gender” for myself.
Obviously, I am not talking about genuine trans people who suffer from dysphoria, which is a recognized medical condition and who must physically alter their bodies to get relief. That is a different topic that I was not including above.
It’s not about what turns her on. It’s what does not that better explains it. She doesn’t get aroused specifically by the shell no matter what shape it is. She doesnt necessarily get aroused by the persons preferred embellishments or how a person stands, sits, speaks. These things are secondary to her. A persons everything else combines to make them sexy to her. So they can be any variety of feminine male and masculine female or appear totally gender neutral but that will be irrelevent to her.
She should really give up acting at this point. She was horrible in that Amazon Woody show. She was flat and totally unbelievable. It almost seemed as if she was reading her part. But then, the whole show was awful. Plus, I cannot ever imagine a day where I would need political advice from Miley!
These Hollywood kids are so spoiled and out of touch with the world and giving them a platform is not helping our youth. She’s riding on her high horse thinking she’s different, guess what,were all different. No respect for people who work with Woody, a known peadophile, she picks labels not to label?
I honestly love her.
And she is just so stunning , one of the most beautiful people I have ever seen.
really?
“If you could ever consider Donald Trump, you never understood Bernie in the first place.” – this is a really really good point. Bernie was probably the best potential candidate in the last 20 years at least, and it is a huge shame he wasn’t elected, but with all her faults, Hillary is still miles and miles above Trump.
I like Miley. As I said before, with all her faults and famewhoring, I really think she’s a good person deep down. If only she didn’t work with Woody. I can’t turn a blind eye to that. However, out of the people who did work with Woody, this is one of the better explanations.
You have to hand it to her, every once in awhile she makes a point that is so relevant, so accurate and spot on it makes me have whiplash as I take a second look.
That statement embodies so much truth, and shows me she would probably get much more credit if the other side of her coin wasn’t such a caricature.
Dammit Miley! You are making me like you.
I loved this: “If you could ever consider Donald Trump, you never understood Bernie in the first place.”
Because Trump is–quite literally–the ANTI-Bernie Sanders.
I think that was a really great quote because it is so true. The same is true for Gary Johnson. If you agree with Bernie, then nothing that Trump or Johnson offers should be acceptable to you because policy wise, they share nothing in common.
I don’t know. Bernie paralleled Trump in a lot of ways for me. The near ignoring of down ballot candidates, the apparent egotism, the “revolutionary” fervor, the failure to play nice with the national committee…
I came away with the distinct impression that Bernie was basically the Trump of the Left. Not quite as potent, but similar personality. That’s why I think there is a concern about Bernie people going for Trump – because they can smell the similarities.
I still can’t get behind her choice to work with creepy pedo woody. Just. No.
and Terry Richardson.
I think all these terms (homosexual, pan sexual, bisexual, etc) are putting people in “boxes”. Genetically we are all male or female, but why do people have to have sexual labels?
Love/do who you want to love/do, you don’t need a label to have permission or approval. 😊 If you want to be treated equal label yourself “human”!
YES + 1000
I know I’ll get attacked for saying this but before I say what I say just know that I’m not a Woody Allen supporter and I refuse to watch his movies or anything that involves him but I get the impression that those actresses that work with him, get asked about his accusations and go about it like it’s gossip instead of something more serious. Like take someone like Miley Cyrus and when asked they respond with “I don’t know much about the situation but blah blah blah.” I feel like they say that not just to make themselves feel better about the situation but because they themselves have been in situations in which people speculated things about them that may or may not have been true. Of course Miley hasn’t been accused of what Allen has, but I don’t know I just get the impression that with these actresses especially so much crap gets written about them and all the gossip gets thrown at them (more so than actors) that they feel they want to withhold judgement when talking about someone else. I don’t know if that makes any sense. I’m not condoning it either but the way Miley worded her response got me thinking about it all.
I get what you’re saying.
I remember Kristen, when promoting Cafe Society, gave a similar answer like “I talked to Jesse [Eisenberg] about it and I didn’t want to judge him on something we weren’t sure of”. It stuck out to me that she was treating it as old Hollywood gossip than a alleged serious crime.
Not excusing their ignorance but I sort of get how if you’re use to people fabricating stories about you then you’re going to be more reluctant when you hear one about someone else.
I’m not attacking but that would somewhat be similar to an actress deciding to work on Nate Parker’s next movie after all the recent info has been released about him and saying “well I don’t know the truth, I wasn’t there but he is nice to me, the crew and his daughters”.
The molestation accusations on Woody has been presented by legitimate news like The New York Times and Washington Post, there are court documents. It’s not some silly tabloid story about cheating. Additionally Woody married a girl whom he groomed while being in a parental role. That alone will be hard to stomach.
The truth is they do not care as long as being connected to Woody advances their career and gets them marked as a “serious actress”. Polanski also has legitimate court hearings and published report on his rape plus sodomy of a 13 year old but both his actors and his hardcore fans find reasons to excuse his actions. They should just be honest.
Now that you put it that way, I can kind of see how a public figure might be more likely to take a ‘How do I know this even happened?” approach to what they hear about another public figure they’re dealing with (combined with the fact that people in general have a hard time believing it when someone they’ve been exposed to and ‘doesn’t seem that way’ gets accused of abuse) but at the same time, the Woody Allen situation is different. It’s true that with public figures and the rumors, there’s no low that the blind gossip/tabloid world and some of the people who swear by it won’t stoop to, like spreading nasty stories about sexually abusive/exploitative situations involving public figures as ‘fun scandalous gossip’ to use as attacks against celebrities (usually ones who aren’t straight males) they disagree with. But with Woody Allen, it wasn’t some misogynistic trash on a blog somewhere- his own son and daughter very publicly came out talking about how Woody abused Dylan. I think that should count for something and make people like Miley, Kristen, etc. think “Hmm, maybe this isn’t dirty tabloid slander, and maybe I should be careful not to be dismissive of someone saying this person abused them just because it’s more comfortable for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.” Their defenses of him are still problematic, and Miley’s defense seems hypocritical because she didn’t give that benefit of the doubt when it wasn’t someone who wasn’t helping her career along (Dr. Luke- not saying she should have defended him.)
Because if someone is nice to you they can’t be a bad person, right?
That’s like saying if someone doesn’t rape you they can’t be a rapist. That is some f***ed up logic to justify working with a sexual predator.
I don’t know…Miley always seems to try way to hard to be cool, and different…
As I previously said: Decent person, draining/exhausting personality.
I said a much more long winded response above, but you nailed it on the head!! Exhausting personality, decent person.
Like I’m going to take political advice from someone who has likely never voted.
“I know that acting is boring. People get paid way too much for what they are doing.”
This just goes to show how small her bubble is. Acting is a terribly paid profession outside of those very, very exceptional Hollywood cases.
Isn’t it a bit ironic that she’s headlining a feature on the power of women, if she doesn’t identify as female?
….lol…I look forward to Hollywood having less inequality when HRC gets to be POTUS which is most likely now a given…lol o lol o lol…
her dylan farrow stuff is so disturbing. Its sick and sad and dismissive.