The world has flipped upside down this month with the election of Donald Trump, but in truth, the whole year has been horrible and upside-down, hasn’t it? It’s disaster after tragedy after craziness after fascism after strange bedfellows. Glenn Beck is making sense. President Obama is not making sense. And I truly and completely feel sorry for Kim Kardashian. I’ve felt sorry her for a few months now, ever since she was robbed in Paris in October. She was traumatized and in shock, and she has barely been out in public since then. Reportedly, she’s been falling apart privately too. And now Kim’s trauma is being blamed for Kanye’s mental breakdown. WTF?
The fallout of Kim Kardashian West‘s horrific robbery at gunpoint nearly two months ago in Paris has had its own impact on her relationship with husband Kanye West — and the rapper’s recent breakdown and hospitalization are creating additional strain in their marriage, a source tells PEOPLE.
“Kim has had a very rough time since the robbery,” says a source close to the reality star, 36, who has been keeping a consciously low-profile lifestyle since early October. “It hasn’t helped that Kanye has been touring. Their lives have been quite chaotic. It’s been very trying for them both and not a good recipe for a happy marriage.”
Before the robbery, the source says, “Kim [was] usually the more stable and strong person in the marriage. Kanye is used to leaning on her. Since Kim has had her own issues to deal with, the roles have been reversed. Kanye has had to stay strong to support Kim, and it’s like he can’t handle it anymore.”
The source adds that the 39-year-old Grammy winner, who stands to lose millions after he canceled 21 dates on his Saint Pablo tour, “is totally wiped out from touring and just can’t handle it emotionally.” And with his wife and support system taking a step back in order to overcome her recent trauma, the source says, “It’s like Kanye is falling apart now, because Kim hasn’t been able to give him her full attention.”
You know what sucks? When a mother of two small children has to worry about her marriage falling apart because she can’t be emotionally available to “mother” her husband 24/7. Don’t get me wrong, I believe People Mag’s sources have it dead-on. I think the fact that Kim was the victim of a horrific robbery has been really hard on her marriage. I think when Kanye had to step up as the role of caretaker and support system for his wife, he absolutely fell apart. And that sucks. It says that they are fundamentally not equal partners in their marriage. It says that their marriage only works when she’s his rock, when she’s supporting him, when he gets to be the damaged and needy one. Now, I’m not really blaming Kanye either – his nervous breakdown (or whatever we’re calling it) this week was a long time coming and it’s not a matter of “this one thing caused all of his problems.” The fact that he had to be “the strong one” just exacerbated existing problems. And yeah, I really do feel sorry for Kim. I do not envy what she’s been through and what she continues to go through.
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Did evil witch Taylor cast a spell on em??Don’t mess with a girl who loves cats. They might be her familiars!* cacklessssssss
cacklessssssss …. 🙂
Honestly he fell apart because the kardashians used him high and dry. Lets be honest here, before Kanye made a name for Kim K in the fashion world he did even bigger things for Amber Rose, which was not only a culture shock to the fashion industry but was simply refreshing to see someone so unique. Everyone from louis vuitton to Givenchy embraced Amber with open arms. Kim saw what Kanye did for Amber and went after him (after her marriage to Kris H, )she was latching on to her very last few minutes of fame. Don’t think these people don’t calculate every aspect of their life. Keep in mind kim could have had Kanye before she married Kris she just didn’t know what he was capable of providing.
These women trigger these men to hit rock bottom points in their lives. Not blaming the Katrashians just stating the links between all the men that have been cursed by them.
I don’t think they (the older Kardashian women) ‘trigger’ these men to hit rock bottom points in their lives, I think they have a type and the men they choose to be with tend to be famous men who have some underlying issues already. Part of that may be because they’re the type of people who tend to fall for people they’ve got to help/save/ be the strength of in some way or who have some type of ‘tortured past’ type of thing going on, but I also think it might be a little bit easier to keep finding people who have issues with substances and behavior if everyone you date is in Hollywood.
I think he probably felt helpless when this went down with Kim and it brought back how he felt with his mum, because didn’t he say he felt sad that he couldn’t save her and have helped her when she passed away? That with any other underlying problems he has probably caused this. Perhaps he’s bipolar and is sleep deprieved and in a psychosis period (what TMZ reported) because he’s currently “manic” and has been for a while. Anyway this is just my internet analysis and of course I could be completely wrong lol everyone is giving their diagnosis right now
It’s been great to see the support he’s had online particularly from the black community and his fellow rappers because typically mental illness is treated as a joke or something that’s not serious. Look at how Drake treated Kid Cudi seeking help.
Spot on, Anna and Kaiser. Kanye is likely suffering from BPD and umresolved grief from his mother’s death. Not having Kim available to “mother” him probably triggered this episode. Sometimes you have to bottom out to find help.
May time heal and bless them both and their family.
Spot on!
I feel deep down he does suffer from Bi Polar type 1. Like most, Bi Polar is a spectrum mood disorder.
I grew up with a Bi Polar 1, narssarsitic personality Father. He was an extremely gifted entertainer. Had many television roles. He is now in his seventies and can do little damage now.
However, I was the eldest child and remember a great deal.
He reaked havoc, in All our lives. He’s still an influence on my Sons. I try to minimize any time he has alone with them.
His world view and thought proccesses in general are NOT ones I want passed to my children’s generation.
He did a LOT of damage to my sisters and I.
I love my Dad…. But he should never have been a Father.
I think that might’ve been the final straw but he had been coming undone for months now. It was a matter of when, not if it happens. Read his interviews from the past say, 6 months, he very obviously had delusions of grandeur at the very least. He needs medication, or meditation and vacation, or something. Not working for 48 hours straight, and going on tours inbetween designing fashion lines.
Do you mean Bipolar Disorder? BPD Borderline Personality Disorder. Also fits.
I think it is sad that the moment we realized Kanye was in serious trouble was when he said he would have voted for Donald Trump.
I have defended Kanye’s behavior on this site for a long time.
I now will admit he is probably bipolar. Psychosis is rarely caused by exhaustion and dehydration alone. usually schizophrenia,bpd or alcohol/ drugs are involved.
Perhaps, his mother was the only one that knew of his diagnosis and helped regulate his schedule.
Thanks for being supportive ladies. My manic episodes are awful and I have been in the hospital twice. I always know the signs. Learning, educating loved ones, and getting help is always so important.
There’s a thing called brief reactive psychosis that can happen to anyone as a response to a traumatic event and doesn’t warrant a chronic diagnosis, just a reaction to severe stress. But I’m pretty sure his psychotic state had been unravelling for months now, judging from the things he said in interviews,
M16 and DemiseMich, I agree with both of you. November is the month when Kanye’s mother died, and I’ve heard that the anniversary of that tragedy is always a hard time for him because he relives the grief and helplessness he felt then — and this time when the anniversary came around, he was already traumatized by Kim’s brutal armed robbery and her ensuing retreat into a kind of (understandably) wounded and reclusive state completely unlike the life Kanye was accustomed to living with her. Added to that is the fact that he was suddenly cast in the role of HER rock instead of the reverse, and the rock crumbled under that weight. His mother was his rock and he lost her — then Kim was his rock, and to him it may feel as if he has now lost both of them. (In all of this I feel doubly sorry for Kim. I can’t even imagine the trauma of being rousted from your sleep and held at gunpoint in the night…and now this.)
I do agree with DeniseMich as to what it at least appears to be. I worked as a writing-therapist for patients in a lockdown psych unit for several years, and his behavior does at least have the features of bipolar mania and what sounds like an ensuing psychotic break. I saw many incidents like that when bipolar patients who had been regulated went off their meds or suffered a life-changing traumatic event. I’ve wondered for some time now if Kanye was bipolar — the grandiosity, the manic episodes and uncontrolled anger, the paranoia.
I feel very sorry for both of them.
I disagree. Psychosis can be cause by any number of things and can easily be caused by lack of sleep and overworking. It can also be caused by depression or a MDD. In addition to the stress of thinking a loved one might have been killed/kidnapped/raped I can easily postulate that he might tip into psychotic behaviour.
I think the internet diagnosing of BPD or Bi Polar I or II is horrifying to me.
Ronaldinhio, I respect your aversion to internet diagnoses and I share it. But to *diagnose* someone is to state unequivocally that he has a particular disorder. To observe that someone’s behavior or his affect shares features of bipolar disorder or any other psychiatric condition is more in the nature of trying to understand that behavior and, in this case at least, to sympathize with that person, who seems beyond overwhelmed with stress, worry, recent trauma, current overwork, and haunting grief right now.
Aside from that, it’s in the nature of a gossip site to discuss celebrities’ lives and their behavior, and I can see why it offends you because it often offends me, too (I have stayed away from the current Jolie-Pitt family tragedy for the most part for that very reason, especially since it involves their children)–and yet we’re both here, so…although I respect your opinion and share it to some degree, there really is a difference between diagnosing someone and simply observing his behavior and noting its similarities to a particular disorder. Does that serve any purpose? Maybe not, but possibly it does contribute to a kinder view of that person to consider the possibility that what he has done may well be a struggle against a mental health issue rather than simply bad behavior, which Kanye is often accused of — and maybe there is a reason for it that’s medical in nature.
I also just read Kanye filed an insurance claim for the $30M not sure if that has anything to do with his debt of $53M but something smells fishy. Kim K got away with her insurance scam and paris robbery, maybe bc of that they pulled of something even bigger. I understand mental help is not something to question but his ask for help was involuntarily. Leading me to believe that the timing of the family being away just makes me wonder why that day, why kim k stated she wasn’t attending the Angel ball but was seen multiple times at Kanye West concerts. Interesting how you can support your husband on days where he is celebrating things but can’t be there for your own father. I never saw valid pictures of her boarding a plane, those pictures look suspect. Definitely could have been anyone from their camp.
Drama is always revolving around this family I truly pray that kanye will be okay and leave this family before it gets any worse for him.
Kanye West fell apart long before Kim got robbed in Paris so they should try a different narrative. Maybe they should look into the fact that he’s an egotistical maniac who’s always had people defend his outbursts by calling him a “genius” instead of getting him help. By defending his outbursts they made his ego even bigger and then worsened his mental state because it became the norm for the “genius” Kanye to be the “truth teller” because ya know he’s a “genius.”
It’s called enabling.
Or you know, coddling, EXPLOITING….
ITA with you two, I hear the KERCHING! of cash registers behind all that enabling…
+1 finally someone says it! I’m clearly too cynical. All these narratives being handed to us unquestioned today (this, Anna Faris’ dog)- sigh.
Thing is, all the money in the world can’t fix this. It can make the environment surrounding it nicer, but that’s as far as it goes.
All of this. I dont like Kim at all but Im tired of her being blamed for her husband’s messes. Kanye is an adult man, and he should know how to take care of himself by now.
If he’s suffering from serious mental health issues he will need all the help and support he can get from those who are supposed to love him. If he’s delusional/psychotic he’s not going to be able to sort that out himself.
They are both adults and maintain responsibility for their own choices. I don’t pity Kim at all, she chose the life she currently lives. While she shouldn’t be blamed for his issues, I don’t personally she how she should be pitied, either. If Kanye is truly mentally ill, I hope he gets help and achieves mental well-being.
I’m just so exhausted with people blaming, blaming, blaming rather than recognizing personal responsibility.
Sounds as if their marriage is complementary based on a shallow foundation. I mean the qualities that hold it together will crack easily under stress. Doesn’t mean they don’t love one another but relationships require more than love. Marriage is a recipe of ingredients. A soufflé will fall to pieces if not handled carefully. A marriage is sturdy. A rye bread as opposed to a soufflé if you will.
Kim has problems that make it difficult for her to be truly supportive. Her ability to truly love someone in a selfless way seems limited. Either it’s a congenital lack or she has built such a shell around herself that not much can get in or out. Remember she was raised by Demon Mother… All of DM’s kids show signs of deep pain from their childhoods. Kim annoys me no end (really dislike liars) but I don’t think she’s been a happy person even before the robbery. And I doubt that her family is much real help in dealing with either her recent Parisian trauma or her husband’s issues. They’re all broken people despite their bank accounts.
I agree. His “rants” have been covered on here for the last couple of years, and people would just laugh and say it’s Kanye being Kanye. The few of us who did say he seemed to be mentally ill were brushed off. I truly hope he is able to get help and get better. He is a talented person.
Kanye is a genius. He must have figured out Kim’s robbery was all a set up, hence his rant on stage about the “Media Lies”. Took him two months to figure it out though! Wish him a good recovery.
Yeah, because he was a beacon of stability and mental health prior to the robbery. This has been coming for well over a decade. It’s somewhat incredible it’s taken this long.
But seriously, he’s mostly been on tour in the aftermath of the robbery. I’m sure it stirred some things up, but it’s not like he looked after her for more than a few days, and I’m pretty sure his version of looking after her is just being there and letting Kris take care of the two of them.
Exactly. It’s not like he’s been sitting around doting on her.
The man has been mentally ill for YEARS. He surrounded himself with enablers though, so everyone always defending his actions.
I believe Kim probably was taking care of him in a lot of ways to keep him at least somewhat stable, but then the robbery happened, and she couldn’t do that anymore – nor should she have to. And I fully believe that Kris has been doing most of the work recently, because honestly, who else would be?
she had a motive to keep him around, it keeps her and her family relevant in the fashion world as you know they have no talent. These people only do things that benefit them not just for the sake of humanity. These people lack a moral compass, empathy or compassion for others, and they donate money to organizations their mom owns. (look up her christian church she runs) 10% other eBay closet goes to this church. now question who you are complimenting.
Reportedly his breakdown also coincided with the anniversary of the death of his mother. I am no fan of Kanye’s, but I think his psychological issues are much deeper than anyone realizes. It is well past time that we stop pretending that money and celebrity = no problems and stop stigmatizing people who admit they need – and actually get – mental health treatment.
I don’t see anyone really stigmatizing people batteling with mental health here on this site. But the mere fact that I know now, just by reading “his breakdown also coincided with the anniversary of the death of his mother” shows me: they share everything with the world in order to make money, have a “reality” show. Well, this is Reality biting them in the (Kardishian) butt! They want us to dicuss their lifes on sites like that, because, why else would you let a camera run within your private 4 walls?
I feel sorry for the patient Mr. West K., but not with the public figure, and I am shure he can not telle those two apart anymore.
See, I just dont think he’s ill. Of course he needs profesional help, but I dont think he’s erratic like Shia LeBouf, Amanda Bynes, or ’07 Britney. Those people were self-destructive and their behavior is completely illogical.
Kanye is just… A really, really big douchebag. He has an inflated ego, he needs validation all the time, and he refuses to see the consequences of his actions. Trump fits this same description tbh. THEIR worlds revolve around them, so they think THE world revolves around them.
You make an interesting point, Josefina. The celebrities you named all came close to harming others or in Shia’s case, actually did harm others. But that shouldn’t be the threshold for mental illness. I think statistically people with BPD or schizophrenia are far more likely to hurt themselves than anyone around them.
Does Kanye have a documented history of self-destruction like all those other celebs I mentioned? I agree with you that being destructive (to yourself or others) isn’t the threshold for mental illness, but I think it can factor in separating the mentally ill from the douchebags.
I think we could argue that Kanye’s helping to destroy his own career, but I think that has more to do with his absolute inability to handle negative criticism.
What? Kanye has harmed others. He’s physically attacked several paparazzis, the kid who was said racist slurs at Kim. Before he was taken to the Even the pro Kanye publicist story in people magazine admits that there was an incident at the gym.
There’s plenty of evidence he’s hot tempered and not in control and capable of physically assaulting people. I really don’t see him as very different from Shia at his worst. Shia just isn’t associated with a reality showj family he also doesn’t have an army of fans who think he’s a genius who is constantly trolling if he does.
His music has made it clear just how unbearable his mother’s death was/is for him.
Kanye has issues that he has not been facing since his mom passed, (maybe before) , then he married into a family with issues apon issues. Get your help baby so that you can see things clearly. Your wife and kids need you! You need you!
He had issues long before his mother passed away.
The problem with Kanye is people have always thought his antics were some sort of act, but if you actually look at how he’s behaved and the kind of things he’s said, it’s always been clear he’s had severe mental health problems.
I saw him in concert about a decade ago, and he went on a long, nonsensical rant about how he was Jesus, but better than Jesus, actually God, and Jesus couldn’t rap like him but he can rap like Jesus because he is Jesus, but like Jesus x2, and that’s why the government’s out to get him…it went on and on, with lots of detours into smaller rants about things like what colour the sky really is, and he was completely incoherent for the last few minutes of it, just stringing random words together while getting more and more worked up. Everyone acted like it was some kind of performance art, but he was so clearly having a major manic episode. His career is littered with moments like that that were brushed aside as ‘Kanye being Kanye’.
Yeah-a friend saw him in concert several years ago and said the same thing. She thought he was either coked out or in a manic episode or both.
I really feel for Kim, she’s been through a hugely traumatic experience, and now this. I feel for him too, mental health is no laughing matter and I’m sad for anybody who experiences a breakdown. I think this is spin, because just admitting that he can’t cope right now isn’t enough, there has to be a sympathetic reason to explain it away. It can’t just be that he’s
And the rants and inappropriate behavior and unhealthy obsessions with Beyonce, Taylor, and Amber BEFORE the robbery?
The guy is mentally ill. Seems to have been for quite a while. And while it is difficult to deal with a mentally ill family member, encouraging and enabling that person in the unhealthy obsessions is not helping them. And Kim has, in public, been an enabler.
I hope he gets the help he needs and continues in treatment before he harms anyone, including himself. That may involve staying away from her.
@ lightpurple: spot on! Whenever/however it started, Kim and her family live from this kind of attention! Enabler, fellow-runners…
Totally!
This – there has been something going on with him long before the robbery. As far as we know, she hasn’t tried to get him treatment, and now everything has built up and exploded. Hopefully this time he actually does get help and improves.
The extra sad part is her mother will likely try to exploit all this for their stupid show.
Pretty sure she hasn’t encouraged treatment – evidence is the Taylor Swift thing. Kim didn’t try to resolve the problems between Kanye and Taylor like a caring grownup, but instead did everything possible to make it worse. A wife truly concerned about her husband’s mental health simply wouldn’t have done that. Kim did, to get ratings.
It’s all a publicity stunt. This is how they survive by concocting drama to get attention.
It’s being said elsewhere that this hospitalization/breakdown is to cover for his abruptly canceled tour. Insurance and all that. But yeah I think it’s a stunt too.
Someone just told me that and it blew my mind
But didn’t he cancel the tour because he had some sort of breakdown? The guy has not been stable for years. So even if it’s a stunt, he still needs help (although if it is a stunt, I doubt he realizes that he needs it).
I tend to agree with you Crox so i’m hoping that even if it started as stunt queening or face saving for the insurance he gets some sort of assistance cause he doesn’t sound good
I really don’t think so.
Kim gets robbed at gunpoint. Y’all: PUBLICITY STUNT
Kanye finally has the inevitable mental health breakdown he’s been threatening to have for damn near a decade. Y’all: PUBLICITY STUNT
What’s next? Someone dies. Y’all: PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBBBBBBBLLLLLLIIIIIIICCCCIIIITTTTYYYY STUNT
Maybe we should rethink who the real nasty people are here? I’d rather be around a bunch of people starved for attention than people who roll their nasty eyes at robbery and mental health issues. :/
Any OTHER family, Kasia? Yeah I’d agree with you.
Kanye and the Koven? Total publicity stunt.
The Kardashians literally live off publicity stunts. 95% of their lives are fabricated for mass consumption.
I don’t think this is that, tbh, because Kanye’s ego has been out of control for a while now (before he even married Kim) and this was just bound to happen. But will they milk it to death? Time will tell, but empirical evidence points out that, yeah, they will totally milk this to death just like they did with Lamar.
I agree Kasia. I’m not quick to call anything a publicity stunt because I can understand that under the “fame” these are real people. Kim’s really been away since the robbery. Kanye really feels a lot of emotions all the time… and sometimes you can’t “see” the problem, I have depression and anxiety but I can function in public so imagine what he’s experiencing to have it play out the way it does with him. I feel for them both and I hope they get the help they need.
@Kasia- this is the family that cries wolf.
I found it interesting that the day Kim is set to make her big appearance since the robbery, Kanye becomes the news story.
There is a parable about this. It involves a boy and a wolf and it makes it clear that it’s the boy’s fault and not the villagers who don’t believe him. The Kardashians are responsible if no one believes them now, after they’ve pulled publicity stunts time and again.
Come on, this family he married lies like a rug. This is a case of the klan who has cried “wolf” over and over and over. Of course people are going to side eye them on the interwebs, get real.
I’m usually quick to assume anything with that whole family is a publicity stunt, but I don’t think this one is for some reason. I don’t think he’d go as far as being hospitalized and losing millions just for the attention.
But he won`t lose millions if his insurance covers this.
Either way: it’s a good story line for their reality (!!!!) show!!
Their exploiting each others misery. 🙁
Lol been seeing so many conspiracy theories online, from mkultra,to illuminati,to him being taken in to be reprogrammed as he was about to reveal too many industry things ,to being compared to dave Chappelle..endless.
Heaven help anybody trying to “reprogram” Kanye….
He’s very obviously mentally ill, and there’s nothing Kim could do to stop it. This is so messed up. Get well Kanye.
Ooo… nice spin Kris. The staff writers should really be able to play up Kim’s sympathy angle with that one. Way to leverage Kanye’s long standing neglected mental health issues that genuinely need some medical attention.
This^^
Yes! Mama Kris is going to tear him apart.
THIS!!! I don’t feel sorry for Kim at all. That family has a history of picking men who are “damaged” and in need of serious help, and exploiting them for their brand. This is a repeat of Khloe and Lamar Odom. The only people that deserve sympathy are Kanye and the children
2016 has really been kinda the worst. If it weren’t for having my baby I’d say this year was the absolute worst.
I’ve been looking for something good to come out of this year! Your baby qualifies. Congratulations
I’m happy that your baby is a spark of joy in this otherwise rotten year!
It really has been a mess of a year. We had 2 good things happen within our family, but everything else has been tough, depressing, and one problem after another.
I wish them both the best because they are human beings. Clearly Kanye needs help and I hope he gets it from the people who truly care about him, and clearly Kim needs to try and turn to her family if she is now unfortunately realizing that she can’t turn to her own husband.
That being said, she knew what she was getting into. She chose to marry somebody like him, he chose to marry somebody like her.
Things happen. People change and learn things about one another and things don’t end up working out in the end. Lessons are learned. We’ll all be OK, including these two.
I think kanye has legit mental health issues that are organic, part of his creativity but also chaotic in his life. His success has meant monetizing his illness basically and he cant cope. Not anyone’s fault. I wish them both well and also their kids.
Look, it’s been very obvious for quite some time that Kanye is likely dealing with some major mental illness that isn’t being treated properly. Let’s not let the Kardashian spin machine try to spin this into sympathy for Kim and Co. I still don’t believe she was ever robbed, and have no sympathy for her. I do, however, have major sympathy for Kanye. It sounds like he’s really been suffering mentally for quite some time. Hope he gets the help he needs.
DITTO! I don’t like him but I do have compassion for him. He is in need of REAL family and real friends because he is a DEEPLY troubled man. He fell into a den of Succubus’ they will screw him over when all is said and done.
Kanye needs to understand that he is not a fashion designer nor a political activist and that his opinion counts for nothing.
I think he started to lose his marbles when critics went after his ass on his fashion line and how he behaved towards his staff.
He has delusion of grandeur and as a very spoiled baby he cannot deal with criticism and this, plus his mother’s death, might have triggered a nervous breakdown.
I still think Kris Humphries needs to thank his lucky star because he really dodged a bullet and he is in fact the only man who has not been emasculated by any of the Kardashian snakes.
And if there is anyone the Kardashians should worry about, is Kylie. She is minutes away from showing her cervix on every social platform just to have some attention.
The name ‘Keeping up with the Kardashians’ is not for us but for them. They always try to outshine one another in any possible way.
I think he lost it long before that.
That was his cracking point I think.
This all day. I’m sorry but I’m not falling for this “poor Kanye” narrative at all. He’s a douche with an inflated ego who has stayed away from criticism for far too long.
Kanye’s been having a bad time recently because people are progressively getting more and more tired of him. Jay-Z doesn’t care about him anymore, his fashion line is a disaster, Pablo was well liked but not a smashing success, and now Kim can’t kiss the ground he steps on because she’s too busy with her own issues. I think Kanye can see his empire falling in front of him, and that’s obviously too much to take for a guy who considers himself to be a God.
I’m glad he’s finally getting help, because he did need it. Everyone should seek psychological help every once in a while. But I’m not falling for this “poor Kanye” narrative AT. ALL.
Except that mental illness can cause delusions of grandeur/inflated ego.
True. But not all delusions of grandeur can be traced back to mental illness. Just like being emotional doesn’t make you bipolar, or disliking parties doesn’t make you autistic.
For the life of me, I can’t find it in myself to feel sorry for any of them.
North and Saint — that’s who I feel sorry for.
I’m not a fan of either but I heard he is a genius. Not sure why, but that’s what I’ve heard and read in numerous places. That said, there is truth behind the saying: there is a fine line between genius and madness.
Ive been through something quite traumatic and it changes your life. I didn’t think it did, but it changed how I love my daily life. I’m quite sure Kim is still coming to grips and trying to find a way to process it.
A genius what? Not fashion designer, that’s for sure.
Dont believe everything you “hear”
Proverb: Believe none of what you hear, and half of what you see.
I meant to add, the second part of that proverb puzzled me as a kid. I didn’t realize it meant reality stars and plastic surgery.
Because he will tell you and everyone that he is a genius!!!!
I guess some women tend to “mother” their partner… Well at least that’s what happened to me.. I stood by my bf through every family crisis, work crisis, the crisis he had when he injured his hamstring and couldn’t play soccer every weekend for 3 months (?) but when I fell apart for my own issues (family and work collapsed at the same time), he told me ” take your over sensitivity somewhere else” and that’s how 3 year relationship ended lol *sigh*
And yeah 2016 sucks
She wasn’t mothering anybody when she inserted herself into his obsession with Swift and released that heavily edited video to promote her TV show and get money from Snapchat. Nor when she filmed herself visiting his Famous statues and pointing at his fantasy version of Swift’s and Amber Rose’s exposed genitals and cackling. She was enabling him and exploiting him and his targets.
No matters what happens to other people, kim is always portrayed as the victim. It’s all about kim, ya’ll!
People magazine is the mouthpiece for celebrities who want to get their side told. I am just trying to figure out who is the source. At first read it sounds like someone from Kanye’s camp. But it also has just a hint of sulphur scent from Lucifer’s Homegirl. Something is brewing
D-I-V-O-R-C-E
This article is planting the seeds of why Kim will divorce him. They did the same to Kris Humphres (sp) with the whole “he wants her to uproot her entire life and move to Minnesota with him which is not what they agreed upon…” narrative. Same with the first husband – he was too controlling and Kim just had to get away.
They first plant something for us to say oh well OK Kim we see you’re the victim here so when it comes time to announce the divorce it looks like ex is the bad person not Kim.
It’s their MO for every single relationship that goes badly.
Yep!!!
I have a family member who is bi polar (which I truly think Kanye is too), and her symptoms are brought on by stress. In that way I think these sources may be correct. Not that it’s her fault, mind you. But if he is not medicated, the stress from this could have brought on a manic episode.
First – why is this, once again, being played out in the public? I don’t for one believe either of them support each other emotionally. Yes, Kanye stopped his concert and cancelled one other but he didn’t fly to Paris (which he could haved done that night). Instead he went on with his tour AND added extra dates. Kim took off for NYC in spite of Kanye walking out of a concert (the second time this happened – he did the same on Nov 4 but made it through half his show) and cancelling a show 3 hours before it happened. IMO, they put on a good show but no substance. This is about the third story of why Kanye had a mental breakdown. Do I believe he did – most likely. But as others have said, just like with the Lamar health situation, they are milking it for all that it is worth.
Ultimately Kanye has to want to try to manage his illness. He could probably just walk out of the hospital tomorrow if he wanted to. Lots of people just aren’t interested in treatment, taking their meds for whatever reason – too sick to see the benefit, unwanted side effects etc.
I’m sure there are “yes” people and exploitation around him that don’t help his case but if he doesn’t want help… he probably won’t have to get any. I don’t see him getting a Spears style conservatorship.
Crappy situation as lots of people who live with mental illness or have loved ones living with mental illness know very well.
I find it just plain dirty the machinations of the Kardashian family make this issue about ‘poor Kim’. I also agree that Kanye has gotten a pass on his outrageous, destructive behavior for so long by so many. Dr. Drew told a story on the radio yesterday about how when he went on one of his tirades at the AMAs a couple years back, he and his wife were 10 yards away from him in the audience and his wife said “OMG, he’s completely manic, something bad is gonna happen…do something”. He’s been this way for years, and rather than find him help, as usual, this family plants/promotes a narrative about their victimhood setting the stage for yet another ‘poor us’ divorce. It’s complete crap.
THANK YOU! I couldn’t agree more re: the ridiculous Kardashian spin. Methinks the Kim sympathy was exactly what the Kardashians hoped to elicit when they planted the story.
It’s also really hard to believe. How is Kanye both the controlling/dominating force in the relationship who literally dresses his wife AND perpetual infant who falls apart when he can’t suckle at Kim’s bosom? Please. They thrive off of Kanye’s celebrity b/c he’s the only legitimately famous and talented person in the family and his craziness gives them more press, which is the air to the Kardashian lungs. I don’t think this is anything more than Kris milking the situation for all it’s worth.
Bingo !
Agree w you!
I said the same above Anna before I saw your comment! This is planting the “Poor Kim” narrative as a seed for the eventual divorce.
Double post
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Kanye has needed help since his mother passed and being thrown in to the Kardashian mix has done nothing to help him at all.
BULL$HIT.
Succinct.
couldn’t agree more
You don’t get acutely mentally ill because someone’s not mothering you. He may be a prize dickwad but he is ill. Just like you don’t get cancer because Kim’s attention is elsewhere.
A little mental health awareness needed please!
I agree kaiser. Hate on Kim all you want, but getting robbed at gun point is scary. Its not something you can really relate to with people around you. It’s a traumatic experience that after the fact, you go through every day by yourself. It’s not like she can go to a support group or anything. So isolating for her. And now kanye having a breakdown. Just great. Like this helps!
Why can’t she go to a support group?
A support group for LIARS?
Celebrities have legitimate fears of people in support groups selling their private stories. The Betty Ford clinic started with this in mind, as a safe place for getting help. Betty Ford faced the same problem herself.
It was reported that she was seeing a counselor everyday after the robbery. So either that was wrong (again it was from sources) or the counselor did her no good.
I get that he likely has mental health issues, and I’m sorry for him. But he is a grown-ass man with a wife and two kids – a wife who needs him to step up and be a grown man now. He has the means to get help. It’s time he faced the reality that he is NOT well, and gets the help he needs so he can be there for his family. There comes a point where you have to make a choice to take the help that is offered. And if you do not, that is also a choice. I know, I had to make that choice once myself.
I don’t think think you get it at all. Many people suffering from severe mental illness are unaware that they are sick. Do you realize how strange it is that you are saying that a man who seems to be psychotic needs to “face reality.”
I DO get it. He is now in a place where he is getting help. He needs to take this eriously, and not just say, “well I wasn’t sleeping but I had a few naps and now I’m all better.” That seems to be the narrative du jour, and it doen’t jibe with his pattern of behavior – a pattern that has gone on for YEARS, not just since the robbery. He has a wife and kids now. For their sake AND his own, he needs to take this process seriously.
Meh, these people are rich enough to get all the help they need…counselling, nannies, chefs, you name it. I feel more sorry for those who can’t afford this kind of help after a tragedy. How often were Kim and Kanye together before she got robbed? How was she is “support system”? Please I doubt that. If Kanye is so mentally unstable, why hasn’t he ever talked bad about the Kardashian/Jenners? He sure knows how to control his mouth when it comes to them though…funny.
Being rich doesnt suddenly make your mental illness disappear. He may have far more resources than others but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t feel badly about the situation.
Of course money doesn’t make your mental illness go away (if he in fact has one) but it does help. They have ALL the resources in the world. I will save my sympathy for those who don’t.
Is there a reason we can’t just feel badly for every person suffering?
In addition, resources don’t necessarily mean that you get well. My birth mother had money but that didn’t stop her from being committed to and dying in a mental institution while in a long term catatonic Depression. She had the money to do Electroconvulsive Treatments when she couldn’t come out of her mania. Guess what? It didn’t help. Money doesn’t make medication-resistant mental illness disappear. Therapy is not helpful for all mental illness. Fact.
I am sorry about your mother. I know what it’s like to lose a parent. However, those who have the resources to seek help tend to be much better off than those who can’t afford it or don’t have access to it.
Maybe he has nothing bad to say about the the KJ’s.
I don’t believe that Kim has the intellect or emotional depth to be anyone’s rock.
I think they deserve each other. And they’ve got loads of dough to help them get any and all support they need. Not wasting any sympathy. I’m getting the popcorn ready actually!!
Money doesn’t fix everything. You’re getting your popcorn ready? Really?
I too am getting out the butter and salt, not because I am a heartless human incapable of loving and empathizing with my fellow man/woman…but because I just have a hard time believing any of this.
I am yet to be convinced that the ‘robbery’ happened based on the jumbled reports and the stunning absence of follow up after the initial report.
That may make me jaded and cynical in regards to this particular family who have built an Empire on lying and manipulation of events. Of course, I wish them the best as fellow humans, I am just not drinking the koolaid.
Oh my god i have never read an article that makes me realize my marriage is like Kim and Kanye’s before. My husband is also mentally ill and when i need support he completely falls apart. I completely understand this connection.
I hate women that think it’s okay to wear heels with their toes hanging over the edges of them. Blegh!
I see the “poor helpless Kim” stories are in full effect. Sad people are swallowing this hook line and sinker.
Kanye has needed psychiatric help for a LONG time. It’s just unfortunate that the multitudes (including commenters on this site) were too busy sycophantically praising his manic rantings as “genius”.
The K’s only do things that benefit THEM and their bottom line. I’ve heard if Kanye is declared medically incapable of continuing the tour, the insurance will have to cover most of the loss from ticket refunds.
Either way, even if what Kim went has undoubtably cause more mental stress – Kanye has needed psychiatric care for a long time. Perhaps the robbery was the “straw that broke the camels back”. And maybe he had to finally face the fact that the emperor truly is naked underneath all his pomp and circumstance.
Sounds like my sister who will use any excuse to drink, pill pop or go crazy. She cannot handle anything that life throws at her,big or small.
Nice spin on the story. I’m sure Lucifer’s homegirl thought of that one all by herself.
I just can’t find too much sympathy for these egomaniacs. I guess I’m shallow.
I don’t know if Kanye suffers from a mental illness, but I think he has been surrounded by enablers for way too long.
I also think people fail to realize that you can look like an egotistical monster, sometimes deep inside you still feel like s**t and utterly broken.
I don’t think Kim was ever brIght enough to understand the complexity of Kanye’s character.
His mom died in November 2007, this has been a long time coming.
Or going to a mental hospital is easier than getting arrested for insurance fraud.
Or paying back that $50 or $60 million he owes Jay z.
Or accepting the fact that his fashion business was a flop.
Or going to rehab for the cocaine.
Or coming out of the closet.
Maybe Kanye realized that he is alone, and doesn’t have anyone in his life that truly care and love him.
Reading these comments makes me realise that there are some really lovely caring people out there. I think this is an admirable trait. Unfortunately, I like several others are not like this! Personally, I have zero sympathy for this family, they don’t give a damn about you or I (unless we are buying the clothes or the apps or the lipsticks) and they do not deserve my sympathy. I’m with @Pandy on this. Get me the popcorn! Kanye isn’t mentally ill, he’s a selfish man child with a god complex.
Will never buy the robbery story or Kim’s supposed terror. It was a publicity stunt designed to relaunch the entire K clan to the media and merchandising forefront. The Brad and Angie split took them out of the headlines for almost two weeks, and that pack of rabid narcissists couldn’t have that. Kanye has been a breakdown waiting to happen for years. I hope he gets the help he needs. But I hope the entire miserable bunch disappear.
Way to stay strong, Kanye! Go on a rant in front of thousands of paying customers. Accuse Beyonce of having a tantrum for a win. Accuse her husband of sending goons to kill you. Cancel remaining concerts. Check/5150 into a hospital to check your mental health. Apply to cash in on an insurance claim.
So glad he’s STRONG. Can you imagine the basket case he’d be if he wasn’t?
I don’t like the implication that she’s responsible for it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s part of why he fell apart. If one member of the marriage is already struggling, a change in the stabler partner can just undermine any supportive base they have in place.
He’s always been a loose cannon. He needs constant attention and to be reassured daily that he is a brilliant, incredible artist and is just like Jesus. It spoke volumes when Jay Z even walked away from him.
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