Generally the only time I watch the morning talk shows is when my current celebrity crush is appearing on them so that’s my only frame of reference for what’s out there currently. I did try to watch The View back when it started because I liked the concept of five women with different backgrounds talking about contemporary issues. Since Barbara Walters brought her idea to life in 1997, 20 different women have filled the five seats at the table. Last week, the latest round of “Whose Leaving The View” went to Candace Cameron Bure after mysteriously disappearing for several weeks. Whether Candace’s departure was the catalyst or not, Page Six reported on an exclusive from Walters’ in which they said,
She feels (ABC Execs) ruined the franchise that she and Bill Geddie built. Instead of focusing on smart, educated women with strong talent, they cast uninformed child actors on the show. The legacy has been compromised because of poor casting and bad leadership under ABC News.
Apparently, ABC News responded by saying, “There’s no better producer than Barbara Walters, and we’re always grateful for her notes about the show. The ratings are up, and we’re very proud of the team.”
All of that is the backstory as to why Julie Chen, who moderates the similar show, The Talk on CBS, is talking trash about The View. While on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen, he asked her a viewer question about her thoughts on Walters’ comments. This is what she said:
Other than champing at the bit to answer, Julie began diplomatically. She said she believed the whole Page Six article, both Walters and the execs comments. But then she infers that Walters does not feel ABC is listening to her suggestions, which Walters never said. The crux of Walters’ comments is the poor host selection. And even that is a more recent development. Up until 2013, many of the hosts stayed for close to a decade, with the one notable exception of Rosie O’Donnell who barely lasted a season during both her stints. After 2013, other than Whoopie Goldberg, most of the hosts stay for a season or two. The quality of host has shifted from Meredith Vieira and Lisa Ling to Jenny McCarthy and Raven-Symoné.
Even though The Talk was modeled after the British chat show Loose Women, it is most commonly compared to The View and the rating battles usually comes down to the two. The View took the top spot during the last sweeps so anything Chen says comes off as petty, regardless of her intent. Plus, this is not the first time she criticized The View. I’m not looking to defend The View as a show because it’s barely a shadow of its former self. But I will defend it against Chen on this because even though I agree with her that I should know who the hosts of The View are and I don’t, I can say the same thing for The Talk – and that has nothing to do with revolving chairs.
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The View was a good show once upon a time but outgrew its relevancy. However, the Talk is no better, just the afternoon version of the View, with a panel of annoying women. Julie In all likelihood wouldn’t even have the voice she does if weren’t for husband Les Moonves giving her the show. Be careful who you dig holes for because you could fall in it yourself. Imagine a world without The View and The Talk. Not so bad I’m thinking.
The Talk, despite the claim of this article, is a knock off of The View to begin with, which itself has had some revolving co-hosts like Leah Remini, and the there one who left around the same time!
I like Julie and her robot bitchiness. She’s smart, and ambitious, so I don’t doubt and criticism is also a plug for her show.
I have never watched The Talk though, soooo I’m a really bad stan.
I’ve only seen The Talk when I’ve been trapped somewhere – like a waiting room. Sharon Osbourne makes you want to drink hemlock.
I’m with you. I’ve only seen it once and can’t imagine tuning in everyday.
“Sharon Osbourne makes you want to drink hemlock.” Tee hee 🙂
oof. Sharon is on there? No thanks. Good on you for surviving accidental exposure in that case haha
I like the group they have now…getting rid of Rayven and Candace was the best decision they could’ve made. Jedidiah Bila was a great addition, in particular. And of course, Joy is always saying something to keep them in the headlines. The View still feels like necessary viewing, unlike The Talk, which avoids politics.
I agree. I absolutely love Sunny Hostin and I appreciate how Jedidiah holds her own on there. She somehow manages to foster an understanding of conservative issues or perspectives without sounding like a crazy idiot the way Hasselbeck sometimes did.
Yes, I like the View also. To me The Talk is boring. I also really like Sunny Hostin and Jedidiah. Paula Faris and the blond girl are not interesting to me.
..and you only have a copycat show because you are the final wife of the big boss. Lofty place to sit and pass judgment about people you’ve knocked off.
True! Who even knows the names of her cohosts?
I’ve never seen the talk and I don’t know anyone who has. I used to watch the view when I was in high school. Granted, I’m neither show’s demographic.
I much prefer the talk to the view mainly because the five women seem to really love each other and don’t bicker…I don’t like when women are pitted against each other for ratings
I don’t mind checking out the view now and then as long as joy is still on. She’s always Been the main attraction for me
both shows are junk
i only ever see them when i have to take my mother to a doctor’s appointment and being locked in a room with them makes the whole day even worse
And this was on Blind Gossip yesterday:
This female talk show host recently slammed a rival panel talk show. One of the Slammees had a few not-so-nice words for the Slammer.
“Well, at least we got our jobs honestly. She got hers by getting massive plastic surgery, ripping off our format, and f*cking the head of the network.”
Ouch. This friendly rivalry has suddenly turned ugly!
http://blindgossip.com/?p=82515
Dang, who said that about Julie? Maybe, Joy Behar. I don’t think Whoopi would care enough to respond. I actually watch both shows (work from home), and I think “The View” is better and pulls more prestigious guests, including presidential candidates. “The Talk” can’t do that. That said, I agree with Barbara Walters that the show should have stuck to its format of having smart, well-informed women from a range of backgrounds, politically, ethnically, age-wise, etc. Raven Symone was extremely ignorant. She once called the IRS the IRA and didn’t seem to notice she made the slip. Ben Carson, a guest at the time, corrected her. Candace Cameron seemed too timid to say anything most of the time and even told Wendy Williams she had to spend most nights studying the news to be able to converse with the other hosts. I thought a few years ago the show should have been canceled.