As much as it sucked to see the end of Brangelina in 2016, I suspect that the dissolution of Brangelina is going to suck even harder in 2017. We’ve probably got months to go in a terrible custody/divorce battle. Reportedly, Brad Pitt did get to see the kids over Christmas, in a visit that was described as “cordial.” It was also overseen by a therapist. I’ve been wondering if Angelina – who has temporary full custody of the kids – was even allowed to leave LA, with or without the kids. As it turns out, she is allowed? Maybe? According to Us Weekly, she took the kids to Colorado for New Year’s.
Bundle up! Angelina Jolie and her six kids are celebrating New Year’s Eve in Colorado, Us Weekly can exclusively reveal. The Maleficent actress, 41, and her children — Maddox, 15, Pax, 13, Zahara, 11, Shiloh, 10, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 8 — arrived after Christmas, a source tells Us. Jolie and Vivienne were recently spotted shopping at a toy store on Friday, December 30.
As Us Weekly exclusively reported, Brad Pitt was able to see his kids over Christmas amid his divorce custody battle with Jolie.
“Brad did see the kids at some point for a holiday gift exchange,” an insider told Us. “[Brad] gave them presents and it was cordial.”
A second source told Us that Jolie was the one who organized the get-together.
I guess a NYE trip to Colorado means… Aspen? Aspen is full of celebrities this time of year, and it seems out-of-character to imagine Angelina taking the kids to such a celebrity hot-spot, but maybe. Or maybe she took them to another Colorado city, who knows? Denver’s probably nice this time of year. Or Boulder. Or Vail.
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail published an incredibly sympathetic story about how Brad has been coping with the “worst holiday season” of his life. An unnamed friend told The DM:
“Brad’s anguish is palpable right now. He desperately misses having his kids with him at Christmas and New Year. These supervised visits are sheer hell on him. He’s broken down in tears so many times – he’s not ashamed to cry any more. Brad is like a broken man. He feels betrayed by a woman whom he says he still loves. He misses her despite everything that has happened between them. He was blindsided by their divorce – he still believes Angelina made an impulsive decision and can’t figure out how to reverse it and save face. He vacillates between being furious with her and longing for her. He thumbs through scrapbooks of photos of better times and wonders how it all went wrong. He calls her but she doesn’t return the calls. He sends gifts as peace offerings but she sends them back. He’s learned to stay away from the internet rather than risk reading about his situation.’
I don’t know. I don’t think Angelina acts on impulse when it’s about her kids. Sure, she used to be an impulsive person when she was a lot younger (who wasn’t impulsive in their early 20s?), but I just keep thinking that for Angelina to bolt with the kids and start this whole divorce/custody battle process, she was faced with something she truly could not abide or sweep under the rug. She couldn’t justify staying with Brad to herself or the kids. So she left. And I’m still waiting for the tabloids and papers to give her even one-tenth of the sympathetic coverage Brad gets.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I wish – but if he was so desperate to get back together with her wouldn’t he put a stop to all the Jolie bashing and publicly apologize and say he was willing to fight and make the necessary changes? I haven’t seen that ….
The dailymail has always been negative about Angie; even when they were together. And they have been writing some nasty stories about Brad too. So I don’t see him leaking nasty stories about Himself and Angie. Reality is Brad is not responsible for negative stories about Angie. Nor is she responsible for the ones about him. believe it or not tabloids write stories for their audiences. and the DM audience hates Angie more than Brad.
Links to the nasty stories they’ve written about him?
Why people assume the celebrities are responsible for tabloid stories? They are more than able to make up things on their own and don’t need sources from the celebrities themselves and can rely in third hand accounts. So they would not care what Brad says.
Thank you.
I still think that whatever went down with he and Maddox was irreversible and that she had to choose between Maddox and Brad. She chose her son.
I absolutely agree. Something happened that caused this and caused her to have to make a decision that would be in the best interest of the children. Brad is not the victim. If there are any victims it is the children and particularly Maddox who we know was the recipient of something that Brad did or said.
hogwash, he’s just a spoiled brat who plays Angelina to his advantage. if every mother left fathers because of an altercation with a kid there would be a lot a single moms out there. Instead of Brad getting therapy, the kids should be as well, especially Maddox.
CaroLyn, how do you know Maddox is a spoiled brat?
@ minx – You’re right, he isn’t. He is pining for the day he turns 18 so he can go out and work full-time in soup kitchens.
He’s too busy enjoying his status as the injured innocent victim. Great publicity for him and all that — until it backfires all over him, as it inevitably will.
When has he ever claimed to be innocent? My recollection is that what were clearly his sources admitted he was a drunk angry a$$ on the plane. He immediately agreed to drug testing/therapy. Hardly a claim of innocence.
LadyT, no he did not claim verbally to be innocent but come on, his team has softened the blows to him while making sure Angelina gets it to the gut. I like Brad but come on, his inner movie star showed it’s face and he’s been about making sure “his” image doesn’t get to damaged. She can take care of herself but damn, she’s the mother of his kids and not once has he yet try and defend that and there has been a deluge of blame coming at her from day one. Once again he gets off without so much as a bruise (JA) while she gets the brunt. It sucks.
He didn’t “immediately agree” to drug testing, he was FORCED into it by CPS. That’s their status quo. He had zero choice if he ever expects to have access to his kids again. I also think they had a big hand in how Angelina has handled things. If she didn’t file for divorce immediately, she would risk being labeled “unfit” by CPS and the court battle could go on literally for years.
Thank you so much. My opinion of Brad Pitt has been slowly but surely become more negative and I was HIS fan first! As much as I do hold out hope that this family can heal and renew together, there’s something about his never ever willing to say enough with laying everything at her feet that has turned me so off. The media has NO evidence that she’s done anything to hurt him or his relationship with the kids. She’s tried to protect them and all he seems concerned about is his rep. His wanting to shut down the files is about what they contain about him and not the kids. No, I don’t think it was career destroying but his reputation would take a hit that he might have a hard time coming back from. I think he was a bully, a jerk, verbally abusive and just mean on that plane and those kids getting over and past that have been Angelina’s top priority but the media refuses to acknowledge that because it sales more to make him the victim and her the evil doer.
I kind of feel like Brad is an image obsessed passive aggressive jerk, and would definitely protect his image over his family. But I’m a little troubled by Maddox wearing Whitechapel shirts at what 14? That is some serious death metal and very misogynistic music there.
Both of them want to seal the files and for good reason. Why make it easy for the tabloids? They just have to wait for the judge, which is hard during holidays.
jvoolman, I agree they both want that but I still contend Brad’s been more aggressive because what’s in those files reflect a persona the public hasn’t been privy to; one the best PR person in the biz would have a hard time eradicating. It’s also become clear that this (the plane) wasn’t a one-off but indeed THEE deal breaker and although there’s always two sides (or more) to a story, I strongly believe Brad Pitt has been the main reason this family isn’t together. I really DO like the guy and I obviously like the couple but, I’m with Angelina on this. I think she’s done and is doing the right thing for “all” her family.
Ok, before someone says “how do you know?!” I thought I’d better clarify:
“It’s also become clear that this (the plane) wasn’t a one-off but indeed THEE deal breaker.”
“Jolie, 39, told the magazine (Vanity Fair Dec 2014) that the vows the children wrote for her and Pitt, 50, included some important promises they made to each other. “They did not expect us never to fight, but they made us promise to always say, ‘Sorry,’ if we do,” Jolie said. “So they said, ‘Do you?,’ and we said, ‘We do!’”
“In the November 2015 issue of Vogue magazine, Jolie also opened up about her marriage and how she hoped it would never mirror the tumultuous relationship of the characters that she and Pitt portrayed in By the Sea. “Brad and I have our issues,” she confided. “But if the characters were even remotely close to our problems we couldn’t have made the film.”
“What happens after their fights: “Brad has never seen what I’m like when he’s left me after one of our fights. Sometimes I’m strong. But as soon as he leaves the room, I melt into tears. With this film, he sees it. And I see into his private moments.”
“She gets that she frustrates Brad: “I filmed it and I discovered his expressions. So I better understand his frustrations over certain aspects in me.”
“What happens when Brad sees her cry: “The most difficult scenes were the most drawn-out fights: normally if Brad sees me cry, it ends by his taking care of me. But here, in the film he had to stay angry, and I couldn’t take it personally. It was so strange and interesting.”
it’s always been Angelina whose alluded to she and Brad being a normal married couple who have their issues and so this is where I culled my knowing that the plane went past the norm for them full throttle and truly getting the feeling that Brad is STILL in denial.
We don’t know what they are really doing in private. I hope they do ultimately sort it out. They will always be connected via the kids regardless.
They went to Crested Butte. She and Brad have gone there alone and with the kids. I would imagine she and Brad had to communicate in order for her to take the kids out of the state. Hope it means things are at least getting to the point of them talking.
USmagazine knows nothing. They saw a tweet of the picture taken by someone. They then contacted the poster and asked him to give them details and such. He refused, and they kept tweeting to him until he finally deleted the picture off twitter. Which is why they didn’t post the pictures. So they wrote their story based ONLY on the limited info they had. The tweet picture. They don’t know anything and have nothing. It was funny to see them begging for information and being shut down.
I was thinking it might be Telluride, which is another celebrity enclave. Gentlemanly and not of him with the photo. He took it and posted it, then didn’t want anyone to look? If he had to have the picture for his personal files, he should have taken it but never posted.
Interesting info about Us mag, begging for info on Twitter. Reminds me of a literary chat board that I was on, where a (supposed) Hollywood exec was trolling, asking for good book suggestions to be optioned into films. Geez, do your own work, people!
Us Weekly is calling it an exclusive. This should be definitive proof that these tabloids’ “sources” aren’t legit most of the time. Obviously, they both leak info as well, but they’re probably not responsible for most of these stories.
Interesting – I feel bad for the guy, he was probably like “oh cool a celebrity” and posted it without thinking, as many of us would, and was then harassed. Good for him for shutting them down.
Yep and he didn’t even hashtag it so it would be easy to find. It seems like he saw her and wanted to share with his Twitter followers.
Its not shocking to me. It’s happened before with Brad, Angie, and their kids. Someone takes a pic and the media harass them on their Twitter page. Then media claims they got an exclusive story. Lol I’ve read about it on this site in the past.
Paps have found them now, photos of shopping and skiing.
Noticed Angie and Vivienne were accompanied by Marianne Pearl. Nice to see these two strong women have remained friends till this day.
Anyone thinks it’s hella misogynist that in the full DailyMail article it sounds like he is sort of blaming most of their problems on her menopausal state?
Sure he sugarcoats in some “oh, if only I were better partner” nonsense but he is subtly making a case for her “mood swings” being the reason for why things went bust in their relationship. With that line about how things were great for ten years but only after her surgery and their marriage did everything go South he’s blaming her. Even in the areas of the story were he tries to make it seem like he is calling out his own flaws, like when it says he would leave her to deal with the kids when they were erratic and mess with his motorcycle and such, he once again passes off the blame on his conservative childhood and domineering mother. Sure childhoods play a big part in who we end up being, but after a certain age you have to stop blaming your parents and fix what needs to be mended in yourself.
I know many are going to act like this isn’t from Pitt’s people, but I think it is and he is once again throwing everyone under the bus in order to come out smelling like roses.
Throwing the ex under the bus kind of work with Anniston so why no a second time ? If news had not broken out about the child protection services investigation, I wonder if Marion Cotillard would have been demonized the way Angelina Jolie had as THE slutty homewrecking witch.
She probably would have been demonized and Pitt would have done nothing about it just like he didn’t say anything when it was Jolie’s turn. What does it matter if another woman is scarificed to maintain Pitt’s impeccable image and good name, right?
Sorry but Jennifer did not get 1/10 of the abuse Angelina got and still gets.
@Maya: You are a Jolie fan so of course you won’t see both sides. But both were made out to be villains in the media and by each others fans. Anniston was the cold, career minded bitch that just would not give Pitt his babies. While Jolie was the tempestuous that ruined the Golden couple like a witch in a fairytale. Jolie fans called Anniston barren, vapid, untalented, etc. Anniston fans called Jolie a druggy, freak, etc. Only Pitt came out of the triangle pretty much unscathed outside of the occasional story of him running away and crying because Jolie was being a big meanie to him.
@Jinni: actually Jinni – I wasn’t into gossip back then (end teens then) and didn’t follow anything up until 2008-09.
I actually felt sympathy for Jennifer up until I released the media game she played and still plays. That’s when I stopped being sympathetic towards her and started to dislike her personality.
I didn’t say that she didn’t get attacked but she did not get the same abuse Angelina got and still gets.
Jennifer also has the most powerful or agent I Hollywood on her payroll and he is pretty good at making sure that her names is clean.
+1 jinni. That is precisely what happened. Apart from the “missing a sensitivity chip” quote, which had some traction, Brad managed to avoid blame. Depending on which team you played for (eyeroll), it was Angie or Jen at fault. But never ever Brad.
Aniston got the “sad, pathetic, woman who was unable to give Brad children” narrative.
But Jolie has been characterized as a satanic, drug-addicted, promiscuous, incest-loving, controlling evil shrew for years now. Even before she was with Brad, there was something really sinister (not to mention mysogistic) about how the media portrayed her as a “woman without morals” when she never did anything worse than wearing a vile around her neck or having sex in a limo–By Hollywood standards, pretty tame stuff.
Jinni is saying exactly what many of us have been thinking since her fans strategy became apparent. Angies staunch fans defended his behavior towards Jennifer for years. Now the tables have turned and they are outraged because his machine is coming up against Angies and his is winning. I agree its douchey to drag in Angies early menopause but her fans forget that the Brange machine dropped the little “wont give me babies” nugget and these same fans then spent years typing crap about Jens lack of kids. They should keep calm, we are at still childs play level. I mean, what are they going to do when he actually starts giving pullout quotes in interviews about how miserable he was married to Angie as he did with Jen?
Her super fans are in a living hell and it amuses me. They want to use Jens treatment as an example of Brads pattern but cant without recanting everything they typed about Jen for the last ten years.
@Maya You surely cant still be mad at Jen for figuring out how to make lemonade out of humiliation. Well, Angie now has a legendary fixer and entertainment lawyer on her payroll, better pray they can turn her PR fortunes around. Maybe she should add Huvane to the team, lol.
“While Jolie was the tempestuous that ruined the Golden couple like a witch in a fairytale. Jolie fans called Anniston barren, vapid, untalented, etc”
This is true but in the early days following the Pitt-Aniston breakup, sentiment was running in favor of Aniston and against Jolie roughly 25 to 1, and it stayed like that for a couple of years before people gradually got tired of Aniston’s failed post-Brad romances, her fake baby bumps, her constant sniping at Angie via surrogates, etc., while Angie went about her business and kept her head up and her mouth shut. There is a very thin line between pity and contempt and Aniston crossed it before she realized it.
I agree 100% with @Jinni. I am more of an AJ fan and always have been but I remember reading the fan reaction on celeb message boards when the story first broke and feeling sorry for Aniston. Both women got trashed while the man got a total free pass. In fact, at the boards I frequented at the time Aniston got attacked even more than AJ. Alot of people were really EXCITED by the new “hot couple” of Brad & Angelina (the two sexiest movie stars in the world got together! Woo hoo!). A number of people found Aniston’s Vanity Fair article annoying and self-pitying. As for Brad? I don’t think I read a single negative post or story about him ANYWHERE.
Not only did Jennifer get painted as the cold career woman who would not give Brad his babies (shocking how many women said that) but TONS of people attacked her looks. Brad was too good looking for her. Too hot for plain ol’ MAniston. He “upgraded” when he got with AJ. That’s the type of stuff I would read constantly. There were attacks against her intelligence and depth too (people saying that Brad needed to be with someone deeper and more serious like AJ). But most of the attacks were either 1) Poor Brad, Jen won’t give him his babies and 2) Brad upgraded to a hotter woman who better matches his beauty. It was very Brad centered, just like now.
As someone who always loved AJ I just hoped boring Brad wouldn’t bring her down lol. He seemed too plain & vanilla to work with someone as interesting and eccentric as AJ.
“He” is blaming her menopause? You can’t possibly believe the Daily Mail is actually publishing sourced information.
That all just sounds like some kind of bad fanfic, written by a Pitt apologist at the DM who actually knows nothing about anything.
Yes, that’s what I thought. Nothing about it rang true or genuine.
This. And they’re making Brad the sympathetic one because they know it’s what people want. They get more clicks and more comments, which means better ad revenue.
Jinni – misogyny is the Fail’s USP. I’m in the camp with those who think both parties are equally at fault in the way things have played out since Jolie and Pitt broke up – because my belief is that the well-being of the children is most important and is best served by privacy and no leaking. But I think that’s a separate issue to the Fail, which should be a pariah publication for all right-thinking people. My best recommendation to you is never give it even a single click. Don’t give it traffic because, it seems, misogyny pays. Why should we let it be the most-visited celebrity gossip site on the internet?
US weekly don’t have exclusive, one of their freelance reporter saw a twitter pic of Angie shopping with Vivi and make it they have an exclusive and the jolie Pitt family usually ski at the Colorado resort during winter break
There are a lot of pics in the Daily Mail article. Both Angie and Viví look relaxed and happy.
They are at Crested Butte , Colorado
US find this on twitter :
@TylerBarber6 So umm, just saw Angelina Jolie in Crested Butte
Tammy Nolan @lilmisztamtam
@abarber33 omg! what time was this? follow and message me, Im a reporter with Us magazine.
4:56 PM – 31 Dec 2016
LoL
I just looked at that tweet. The reporter pretty much harasses him! First she tells him to take the picture down because it is an invasion of her privacy then she tells him she is a reporter and wants to talk to him!
“And I’m still waiting for the tabloids and papers to give her even one-tenth of the sympathetic coverage Brad gets.”
Don’t expect angelina get sympathy from tabloids, she always speak for herself no one speak for her, when she ready to speak she is an open book and she never blame anyone or tabloids, she didn’t do when everyone were calling her a homewrecker, and this time when she will give interview she will not say anything about Brad or tabloids calling her evil
Tabloids are ruled by men and they hate strong, beautiful, intelligent and independent women.
The reason Hillary’s one mistake was published over and over again and Trump got away with everything.
Same was Amber was attacked regarding Depp and now Angelina attacked regarding Brad.
There are hundreds of other examples where the media chose the man and attacked the woman.
As I said few days ago – women are women’s biggest enemy and women won’t win unless those women wake up and realise they have the power to change the world.
Actually most of the major media outlets (outside of TMZ) were/ are still on Heard’s side. Majority of the commentors on those sites are on Depp’s side though, but the actual articles are mostly pro-Heard. She was hardly dealt the hand that Jolie has had to deal with were just about all sites and commentors hate on her.
Those are two conflicting thoughts. Women aren’t both the victim and the villain. Either their is institutionalized sexism and racism that has to be changed by those with the power to change it or women and minorities need to stop tearing each other down, claim their agency, and stop engaging in behaviors that create this institutionalized hatred. Hint, it’s not the latter – we aren’t the creators. Women didn’t set up systems that make beauty and feminine personality traits a resource on which to be judged. We may participate but we didn’t start it and we don’t have the power to stop it. For example rape, women might slut shame, victim blame, not believe, not want to hear about it but no amount of behavioral changes (watch your drink, dress responsibly, don’t get drunk, never be unchaperoned, wear a body cam and chastity belt, ect) will stop it, only men can but they are never asked to. The victimized should not be held accountable for the victimizers’ actions. Minorities should not be held responsible for internalized racism, just as women shouldn’t by for internalized misogyny.
Women are equally bad as men when it comes to sexism. They are pretty much in the same boat. It’s becoming more apparent to me as I get older. I see in my community. I see it online. It’s on Facebook, Twitter, IG, and gossip boards. It’s noon here and I’ve probably read at least four sexist comments made by women online already.
Minorities should not be held responsible for internalized racism, just as women shouldn’t by for internalized misogyny. It is all fruit of the poisonous tree. With all the racism and sexism that is systemic in American life it would be nearly impossible for it not to have some sort of impact on the lenses you view your life and world through. I don’t think most women realized how much of that message they have internalized or the fact that being a woman does not preclude you from having ideas, views, and feelings that stem from misogyny. Learning gender roles starts young, religion does not help, and “the system” is built to maintain the status quo. The discriminated against outnumber the people who are given unearned privilege so it has to be self-perpetuating, subtly oppressive, far reaching, and systemic to keep those in power empowered.
I think a good example of this is there was a Real Housewife that seasons ago was asked a question about a woman president (not Hillary, just a woman) she said that no she would never vote for a woman because she felt unsafe with a woman leading the country. I highly doubt she is alone in this view. It would be easy to write her off as a sexist dingbat but if you parse through her life experiences, lessons, and messages she’s heard that caused her to hold that view it is sad. She internalized women can’t be tough or strong leaders. The Bible taught her the man was the head of the family and she should be submissive to his will, so if a woman shouldn’t have the final say in a family how could one run the country? Not to mention all the subtle and not so subtle messages in movies and media where the helpless female needs to be rescued by a man. Among probably hundreds of other problematic themes, beliefs, messages, and teachings. Is it any wonder she would feel that way?
Yes, she should reexamine why she feels that way. However, challenging the beliefs you have built your life around takes a lot of courage and mental strength and fortitude. She didn’t reach these conclusions on her own though. She was spoon fed them. I guarantee you people that hold the belief that women should be submissive to men see it as misogyny, they just see it as the natural order of things. They deserve slack, patience, and teaching not victim blaming a derision. They are problematic but they aren’t the problem.
Beautifully said, Lindsey. I couldn’t agree more. Of course women aren’t their own worst enemy, it is the system we have lived in since time began.
Agree, very well said, Lindsey.
It is very sympathetic to Brad, but the sources also point out some of his failings as a husband and a father, so I am still not sure where all this is coming from. Also, I doubt Brad wants people to think that his mother is aggressive and his father is passive and that he has no idea that his ‘perfect family’ was always flawed. What is clear from 90%+ of the comments, everywhere but here, is that Angelina has a serious PR problem.
Angelina is a fighter and someone who fights back when the time is right.
I think when the complete truth comes out (it will one way or another), she will be exonerated in the Public’s eyes.
Angelina gets attacked by public & media with lies and smears and yet over time the truth comes out and she wins the battle.
Right now – Angelina seems focused on the children and their welfare and trying to help repair the family.
Brad knows her enough to know that she will fight back regarding the media attack just yet. Which is why I think he is using the media as much as he can because he also knows the truth will come out and he will lose the public sympathy.
I do think they still love each other but alcohol and weed abuse can change a good man and make them lose sight of things.
She never had an actual publicist now even though some say Angie rep but the rep don’t provide his/her name which mean they are not her actual rep she just using them now while she is dealing with the divorce, everyone knows in Hollywood she does not use PR always speak for herself,
Also the Kardashian get more hate on social media but still they’re more successful in their business than any A listers
I assume the custody hearings will be sealed and that once that happens they will both unload everything they have to the judge. If there is something that is not illegal or abusive, but still justifies Angelina having full custody, then I am sure she will get it, since there must be no shortage of officially gathered evidence to work with, and a ‘dream team’ of lawyers to argue the case. My big concern about this being presented as a temporary arrangement whilst everybody heals is that, after all this time, she will not speak to him. That might not really be the case, but if it is I think the judge would find it interesting; unless Brad did do or say something dreadful, but surely they should be talking? Weren’t they supposed to have family therapy? even if they are, shouldn’t the two of them be talking without the children present? Maybe, like the children, she just won’t speak to him without a therapist present, But they are adults for goodness sake and they should be working together in the best interests of the children, regardless of how awful his behavior was. With the findings of the FBI and child services investigations this all seems nuts to me and I think that it why people are becoming less and less sympathetic to Angelina. Arrghh!!!!! Get the files sealed and get on with it for goodness sake!
I agree they should at least start talking to each other like two mature adults. I can only see Angie refusing to talk to Brad if he did something so bad that she finds it unforgivable. She’s been through two previous divorces and neither one was nearly this bitter.
The haters are going to slam Angie no matter what she does or doesn’t do, but this latest story about poor weepy Brad is only going to solidify their opinion of her as a cold, cruel, heartless viper out to destroy an innocent man. I’m trying not to retch even typing that.
If the records get sealed and she ends up with sole custody, heads are going to explode.
no lady d, sadly…she will have seduced/bought off/spelled the judge and the court and the entire legal system.
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Do the Pitt grandparents live in Colorado? I never used to follow this couple but wasnt there a big thing about how close the kids were to the Pitt extended family. Are they getting quality time with the kids or are they also getting rationed to no contact?
No his (Brad’s family) all live in Missouri IIRC.
Tired of the Brad pity party. Why do people keep ignoring that his bad behavior is what got therapists involved in the first place. Angelina , to her credit, has never been a sympathetic figure. She is a smart, strong woman but I am sure this has hit her as h hard or even harder than Brad. Remember her saying he was her family. Something absolutely happened that changed that in her heart. The kids will be fine. I pray the s a me for Angelina.
Me too – pray that the truth comes out and Angelina stays strong.
It must be hard for Angelina to find out the man she loved, trusted and raised 6 children with turned out to care more about his own welfare and image than the children and even her.
I think Angelina is one of those people who doesn’t trust easily and once it is broken, it will be hard to regain her trust.
I don’t think it would ever be regained. If anyone did something that she felt betrayed her hard-earned trust? I don’t see her forgiving and forgetting.
She’d find a way to move forward constructively, especially for the sake of family (ie. allowing her father to see the grandkids but not really having a relationship with him herself). I don’t see her trusting him again if she feels he did something unforgivable to one of the kids.
@ Maya: You hit the nail on the head. Brad has broken Angie’s trust and he will never be able regain that. Read one post that said it’s ok cause Brad doesn’t look back and he doesn’t want Angie Back. Same goes for Angie. She doesn’t want Brad. The trust has been broken and can never be regained. I’ve said all alone. I want Angie to move on and find a man who truly, truly loves and respects her. And it’s not Brad. And I can’t want for someone to finally come forward and state what actually happened in that plane. Just because Brad was cleared does not mean he didn’t do anything to bring this about. Everyone wants to sugarcoat over this. Brad brought this on himself. He should have been man enough to say he wanted a divorce instead of having it come to this. I remember that old song. . . I am woman. I am strong. I am invincible. That’s Angie. She needs to move on and live her life. (And I would only speak to Pitt only if and when necessary having to do with the kids.) Also tired of him throwing the woman he loves (supposedly) under the bus to make him look better. What a wimp!
Sorry Brad you’ve got yourself to blame for this..I’m over the Brad Pitt(y)party as well but on a rather silly note I have to think the toys are a gift to other kids or sumthn they’re always toy shopping😅…Stay strong Angie
Not a fan of Pitt or Angelina but this is getting ridiculous. both crafted this idea of a perfect family, Angelina would always said he was a great father. Blah blah so I don’t get people getting angry at Brad. Please, both care about their image, I mean Angie hired the real Olivia….
Why are people on about them crafting a perfect family image?
They never crafted that image – there were interviews with them talking about their children but also how they fight.
Both Brad & Angelina has said numerous times that they love each other but also fought like other couples.
I am angry at Brad because he chose his image over his children and wife. I don’t think he is a bad parent but just someone who has let the substance abuse overtake him.
No one ‘lets’ substance abuse overtake them. Substance abuse can hit even the most reasonable, level-headed, strong individuals, and it is a horrific thing to fight.
@ Shijel Amen
And he hired a crisis management as well, they hired crisis management company because they don’t worry about the tabloids but they worry what the legit news TV will report about their divorce, did you see any negative headline on legit news TV? Because most people watch TV not tabloids and so far I didn’t see any legit news TV bashing them both, even a document TV about their divorce was cancelled
“Crisis management” …Oh brother…..The Kellyanne Conway style spinners need to stop already! People get divorced and they will both continue to be employed in Hollywood.
Maya you dont even know Brad Pitt. You dont know Angelina. You dont know what was going on in their relationship or what happened on that plane. You dont know if he has/had a substance abuse problem. It appears you read tabloid crap like the rest of us and choose your own version of events that may not even be reality. Neither one could be the bad guy here.
This article is insulting to everyone’s intelligence, the readers’ and the court’s.
If Angelina had left on impulse, the temporary custody would have gone in a different way.
Not to mention all the conditions placed on Brad with the drug testing snd therapist.
No matter what Angelina wanted, she would not have gotten it from the court. No matter why she left, the following legal decisions cleared up a lot of things, in spite of the fact that Brad is trying to spin them into his Hallmark story.
Surely as soon as a report was made to child services, temporary sole custody was inevitable? I know of a teacher who was suspended from work for a year and was removed from the family home based on a completely made up report to the police, When it did get to court they took less than an hour to clear him of all charges. As far as I am aware the court has done nothing at this point apart form rubber stamp the agreement they made whilst he was under investigation and set a hearing to seal the proceedings. I don’t think recommendations made before the investigation was completed or Brad agreeing to a load of conditions in order to see his children, condemn him and I am sure he will petition to change the agreement as soon as he can seal the files – the disgrace is that it takes so long to get a hearing. What doesn’t look good is that the therapist is still not allowing him unsupervised visits. Despite that, Psychotherapy is hardly an exact science and I am sure Brad will try to bring in other therapists to support him, but again it will be down to the judge to decide. What I am trying to say. in an attempt to avoid doing my accounts, is that there are reasons other than misogyny or stupidity for being skeptical about someone petitioning for sole custody. I, like the law, will always question sole over shared custody unless the there is an extremely good reason for it.
@jelly
+1000
That’s what I keep trying to say too. As a parent I find it concerning that he was cleared and still only has supervised very minimal visits. The next court date is January 17th right? Maybe we will know more then. I just don’t understand why they can’t at least agree to seal the file. All this speculation and fighting won’t go over well with studio heads.
She hasn’t gotten anything from the court. All they’ve ruled is that it wasn’t an emergency to seal the case. Everything else was voluntary.
What always interests me about this family is how do they manage to move about, holiday etc without being papped? There are so many of them, they must have to move about in huge cars. Given the interest in them, particularly at the moment, how do they even leave the house undetected?
Money can buy a lot of privacy. It’s not like they’re staying in a hotel or flying commercial. I think they just make the attempt to avoid paparazzi. I mean a freelance photographer could post up outside their neighborhood night and day hoping they might come out, probably surrounded by security escort, and hope the cars stop somewhere long enough for them to get photos, or they could go get photos of Jennifer Garner on her daily pap stroll at the farmer’s market or any other number of famewhores and make definite money. And they’re staying in Malibu, I believe, which is a long drive to make everyday if you’re an LA based paparazzo, especially if you’re not even guaranteed a shot.
I think the more legit tabloids like People and Us Weekly probably have agreements not to publish photos in exchange for sourced quotes or promises of future access.
BRAD’S ANGUISH.
The passionate man tears. The t-shirt ripping. The Backstreet Boys songs. Falling on his knees in the rain. Desperately running his fingers through his tousled golden locks.
OH, THE ANGUISH.
Sounds a like B movie on Lifetime doesn’t it?
lol. So much this^.
LOL!
He’s not afraid to cry anymore.
LMAO.
I think one important fact here is that Brad has scrapbooks he thumbs through. He must be crafty.
Such a ludicrous image. You’d think that alone would wake the people up.
What image?…is it so hard to believe that when they were happy..They were happy..& pictures prove that…& when it went bad..it was bad….i.e…The divorce!….If Angelina was soooo obsessed with “an image” as some claim she would still be with Brad!…Goodness gracious all the signs(to anyone rational)prove Brad wasn’t such an angel to his fam(wife)on that private plane,but still she’s getting the blame??…ridiculous!
Pretty sure Shura was referring to the image of Brad thumbing through a scrapbook.
Lmao these stories are so stupid, I can’t believe people get so riled up
i dont get why people keeps saying that she is being impulsive over her kids. we dont know how long this was going on. i dont think its something that happened only once. if you have an alcoholic person in your family, you know that things can escalate. it starts with one thing and with time it is a horrible situation.
i just think she got tired of it. she has the money to leave. its not like many women that cant leave because of $$.
She may have shed the man stealing temptress image (or age did that for her) but she’ll always be the unbalanced, unstable, impulsive girl with a vial of blood hanging around her neck. Unfair though it may be.
To be fair in all of that, she crafted that image herself. True or not, what she told the media was that she got married in a tshirt smeared with blood the first time, wore a vial of blood around her neck the second time. Played with knives in bed. And perhaps that was all a facade designed to make her “stand out” from the rest, but that image was of her own doing. People believed it and it got her movie roles. But most people don’t believe that leopards can change their spots that radically. You can’t really put that one on the media, all of that came from her own mouth in interviews. Maybe none or very little of that was true, but it was an image she actively cultivated and she was successful at it. Perhaps to her own detriment now.
Marky Mark Walhberg exposed himself as a vile violent racist several years later, people have no problem believing he has changed. Why not Angie (whose faults – real and invented – are way less problematic) ?
“I’m still waiting for the tabloids and papers to give her even one-tenth of the sympathetic coverage Brad gets.”
Unfortunately you’ll wait until Hell freezes over. Angie has always been the tabloids’ favorite villain. Somebody has to be the demon in this melodrama, and she’s it.
This weepy Brad scenario is getting tired and old, though. I’m still waiting for him to man up and admit he lost his family because was a jerk but I don’t think it’s ever going to happen. He’s too busy enjoying his innocent victim status.
Eh, as if anyone here would do anything but rake him even more even if he did come out and said it.
I’ve long since lost sympathy for either of the parents in this debacle, what with being a child of a divorce where kids were weaponised and adult faces were trying to be saved and all. But as if any of the people here would do anything but drag Angelina and Brad even more if we knew the details.
On that note, they don’t owe us the readers an explanation and an apology.
This crapshow should’ve never been made public.
Some really good points.
“But as if any of the people here would do anything but drag Angelina and Brad even more if we knew the details.”
Surely the details would be favorable to only one of them?
So that Marion Cotillard could be trashed back and forth as it was the case before the investigation was made public?
Kate, why would marion cotillard be brought up if Brad admitted he did wrong on that plane and apologized to his family. His own lawyer called it an “isolated incident” which proves something indeed did happen on that plane that forced Angelina to divorce his sorry ass. I bet if exactly what he did was made public he would be on an apology tour instead of a pity tour. He does have Justin Biebers crisis manager after all.
First of all, the Daily Mail is a ridiculous, terrible site and that story reads like some made up fan-fiction based on a grain of truth: Pitt probably does feel awful about the divorce, duh. It writes itself. Is he a broken man? I doubt it.
Secondly, these two are people with huge egos (yes, Jolie’s a humanitarian, but you don’t go far in Hollywood by being a shy retiring type, so: big ego), but in terms of income, Pitt has more behind him in terms of Hollywood support, friends, successful movies and opportunities. Jolie has more to lose if she loses the Hollywood connections (and potential income from films, etc.) by divorcing Pitt. The humanitarian angle is good for image, but I don’t know how much, if any, income it brings her. So for her, better to angle out ahead by getting out this story that Pitt is the bad guy; she`s not the bad guy, he is, so she`s still good for hiring (an alcoholic movie star is harder to insure, etc., whereas if she looks good, she can get support for her film projects). If she can look good, she’s still got potential connections. She could have gone silent and not released that inflammatory comment at the beginning of this, but I think that proves her strategy. Not that it was a good one if you think about her kids` best interest; but I think in her mind and with her ego, it was the best approach. I think if she DID consider the kids`best interest, they would be in school, with friends, and settled in one place, with a normal home, not these high-end homes that don`t like they`re child-friendly at all. I just don`t see the evidence that they`re getting a good, stable upbringing. And I really believe that that is what the split was based on. And if there`s anything that Pitt is struggling with, it`s realizing how massive of a fool he`s been. As for Jolie, I think in her mind, she believes she`s doing good, but also stubbornly refuses to believe she might actually be doing more harm than good. She is a classic Gemini. The facts are this: they are splitting, they are deeply upset with another (obviously, given the custody dispute), the children are caught in the middle, Pitt is following agency recommendations to be able to see his kids and now has a big question mark beside his name, and Jolie, while getting trashed on blogs, seems nevertheless to have retained her good mother-humanitarian reputation. I mean, people may be hating on her in the blogosphere, but from the plain factual news reports, they split, Pitt is in trouble for some sort of issue and has to be monitored (that`s how it comes across), and Jolie is looking after the kids and has custody. That`s all they can say. So she wins, in that respect.
I think her natal chart has a lot of Aries and Cancer, so short-tempered, emotional, and passive aggressive. If you’re going to blame astrological signs, at least include a little more than her sun sign. And gemini’s are not classically stubborn, they’re mutable, not fixed.
@D
I agree with what you are saying about the kids being in school and staying in one place to make friendships. I think it’s great that the family travels and sees different countries and different cultures. But at some point structure and routine are really beneficial to kids. Thats why I can’t imagine how shared custody will work for them. It would require schedules, structure, not to mention communicating with the ex.
As if the traveling lifestyle was only due to Angelina. When it is this type of decision, then they are called “her children”, hey, the kids do have a father who was traveling as much, if not more than her. They wanted to be together as a family, and they did. Do children benefit from routine, yes, but in his case they thought that they benefitted more by keeping the parents and children together, and they did everything to accomplish that for at least the first 10 years of their life as a family.
Right now, all the kids are school age, so it will be easier for them all to get in track, even if the mother and father will have take into account their work schedules to make the custody agreement work.
Yeah, the lifestyle was due to both of them, definitely. And staying together can benefit, but something tells me they are both typical of those Hollywood parents where neither wants to give up something career-wise for the sake of their children, i.e. to NOT travel as much, hence they kept travelling. I think they thought they could have it all and reality proved otherwise and here we are.
I do think people pick on Jolie more because she`s the one that seemed to be controlling everything while Pitt tagged along. If it appeared that Pitt was in control, I feel like the hate against Jolie would be less. Although, Pitt`s approach, that is, letting someone else control things, is a coward`s way of avoiding confrontation and his own bad behaviour (he`s more passive aggressive and self medicates), and it backfires too when the controlling person says, `you`re on your own`, which is what I think Jolie did.
You assume too much. They were a couple, and share equal responsibility. He has said that she was very organized and hands-on, if he let go of any responsibility, it is on him… but we really do to know any more that why photos and a few interviews let know about them.
On the other hand, there are crazies who can diagnose children syndromes over long distance photos, and even can tell the personality of Angelina over the way the holds her children’s hands. Crazy people fed by the tabloids. I say let them solve their issues.
They had adult issues, he apparently was having trouble controlling his use of substances. and probably different parenting approaches that became a bigger problem as the children grew up. I hope they can find common ground to be parents and all this gets locked up in court.
Aspen wouldn’t be friendly to her…Chelsea Handler and that crowd is there. Soooo not her people.
She’d get a better reception in Gstaad or Saint Moritz. But I’m guessing she can’t leave the country while this is going on.
According to court documents she can’t even take the kids out of LA county while this is going on without his permission. He obviously gave his consent which tells me they are probably at least trying to make this less hostile and finally placing kids first.
I can’t see Angie getting the cold shoulder in Aspen from vile Chelsea and her lot there. Chelsea would make a fool of herself and her little sidekicks. People are tired of her mouth and nakedness.
Saw a video of her out with Marianne Pearl. It’s nice that they stayed friends all these years and I’m pretty sure their sons are good buddies. Some fan on another site said Simon Crane (stunt coordinator for Angelina’s actions films) sons are also with them. So she is there with family and friends.
Pitt probably on his own pity party vacation getting drunk before drug tests. Lol
As for that article- Brad’s ego is too big to want people to think he’s crying. The stories coming from him are the pure ANGELINA IS EVIL stories , “she’s keeping me from the kids ” and the ones about him dating again.
That’s the image he wants. I think he really enjoyed the triangle because it made it seem like two women were fighting over him… He obviously likes that image of himself even if it was false.
I’m pretty sure he is crying over her though and is very angry with her even though he is the one in the wrong. He is used to her playing the game with him and he truly thought she would choose him over her kids to keep the Hollywood facade going?
I hollered reading that “article”.
They dragged his mom!! “Dominant force” and comparing her to Angelina…lol.
“He’s even said he could be celibate for the rest of his life. If he never has another woman in his bed, he says, he would have no complaints”
OMG, so dramatic.
Right? And it was a childhood “friend”! Did everyone go over to their friends house to observe the complexities and inner-workings of their dynamic and marriage? Takes notes about the atmosphere and shady reads of the family just in case one day the Daily Mail came a-knockin’ decades later. He shows a surprising amount psychological acumen and has quite a memory!
I also loved the “I will never love anyone ever again! I will spend the rest of my days completely alone. No one else has ever felt heartbreak like this!” He just needs some slamming doors and cryptic Facebook statuses.
I wonder who made the scrapbooks? I wonder if they are themed and decorated with special acid free stickers? Fancy photo scissors? Is it like regular people’s scrapbooks and gets less complex and creative with each kid or if they really stayed on top of it? Hopefully it isn’t one of those boring utilitarian ones with just photos. It ruins the mental image.
They left out a lot of tantalizing detail!
Something is fishy here and it doesn’t add up. Angelina has said in the past that Brad is a solid, good guy. What’s changed to the detriment of that? He’s on top as an actor and producer. So he’s professionally fulfilled. He has the family and the wife that he wants. So he’s personally fulfilled. Why would Brad start changing to something other than a solid, good guy? He has stood by this woman through all of her health scares, her mother dying, issues with her father. She even said in her last interview with Tom Brokaw how Brad loved her for her and not her physical self. That was only two year, a year ago? Something doesn’t add up for me. Angelina, who I normally am in awe of, is a Gemini. If anyone has been involved with a Gemini know that they can blow hot and cold on a dime. She’s been married three times. Who knows? Maybe she just blew cold one day. No one knows what the real deal is.
Possibly, like some people, a partner will say that of another in public as a way of support if they’re feeling dejected about something and/or as manipulation to get them to behave the way they want when behind the scenes, there are a lot of problems (I knew a couple like this; the husband was forever saying how much he loves his wife, what a wonderful wife she was, etc. on social media when in fact they were having real problems, she had an affair, he had issues, etc. etc.). So I think she said those things to perpetuate their brand or myth or narrative or whatever you want to call it, because it benefited them both, even though the reality was far different.
My feeling is Brad Pitt has wanted out for a long long time and I actually think they can’t stand each other, but he couldn’t figure out how to leave without looking like the bad guy. I go back and forth on what Jolie’s deal was/is. But I do think she’s been in control of their image and brand all along and him wanting to leave would break brand, so she’s had to figure out a way where she comes out on top. Pitt seems too dumb, I’m sorry to say, to be the architect of their brand; he’d want to benefit of course, but I can’t see him being as the person in control. The problem with one person being in control though is that it can backfire because the leaving partner can no longer be controlled.
Although, you’re right, no one really knows.
Then why on earth did they marry each other? I just find it so weird. They had many, many good years, forging deep bonds and it gets destroyed in less than two? Relationships. *sigh*
The relationship deteriorated. Both wanted out, but Brad wanted her to pull the trigger. It would not look good on him to leave the mother of six when he cried desperately about wanting kids and family. Unfortunately for him, his incident on the plane caused him unnecessary divorce drama.
Yeah, I can see that. Although, I still think she could have avoided the drama by not releasing that initial statement and instead just release a plain one, but oh well. Perhaps things got away from her.
I think they both wanted out too. They spent so little time together the past year. Maybe it was stressful filming By the Sea and then having it perform poorly that turned the tables on the relationship. Or just how much time they spent apart. I can see Brad wanting her to leave first for the exact reason you mentioned. He seems kind of passive and cowardly that way. Total speculation on my part and I’m sure I will get flamed: supposedly didn’t Brad tell Maddox to sit down on the plane, Maddox told him shut the f up? I wonder if Brad pushed his shoulder to force him back into the seat. It wasn’t hard enough to leave a mark. But I could see that infuriating Angelina because of all the kids Maddox was ‘hers’ first. Again I am guessing but I keep trying to figure out what made this reaction when he was ultimately cleared by DCFS.
The pictures from the Daily Mail show Angelina and Vivienne walking with a bodyguard and a woman with dark curly hair–is that Mariane Pearl on vacation with them?
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Has anyone considered the fact that Angelina is obviously interested in becoming even more politically involved than she already is and Brad might have objected? The only way for her to live the life she chooses to live and take her children with her is if she has sole custody.
Try again Her lawyer already said the end goal is joint custody.Also she has never said she has political aspirations.
Her answer about this has been vague. She doesn’t seem to rule out politics completely.
Vanity Fair cover interview, November 2014
“Jolie’s prolific political activities suggest to di Giovanni that she may at some point try her hand at elected or appointed office. “When you work as a humanitarian, you are conscious that politics have to be considered,” she tells di Giovanni. “Because if you really want to make an extreme change, then you have a responsibility.” Jolie then catches herself. “But I honestly don’t know in what role I would be more useful — I am conscious of what I do for a living, and that [could] make it less possible.”
In di Giovanni’s last meeting with Jolie, however, Jolie’s opinion seems to have shifted. When directly asked if she sees herself pursuing a life in politics, diplomacy, or public service, Jolie says, “I am open.””
I have no opinion on the political aspirations. I do want to point out though that her lawyer saying that the end goal is joint custody really doesn’t mean a darn thing legally. She can “say” anything. Especially if makes her client look agreeable. That is part of her job. In her divorce petition, filed in court, Jolie asked for sole physical custody. That is the only fact that matters. Actions speak louder than words.
@LadyT That is true, actions do speak louder than words. A lot of celebrities separate and do not file for divorce until everything is settled between them. Angelina filed almost immediately, knowing that would tell the world she was after full custody and giving them a reason why. With the investigation underway she would still have still been able to get her temporary custody agreement, with conditions, and they could still have worked on healing the family and moving towards shared custody. What would have been the worst thing that could happen? Brad files first? From what I understand, the only problem with that is a PR issue.
Turn to lord jesus brad…nullify the spirit if separation n divorce n u will get your marriage and family restored. .this is the wicked work if the devil…I pray you both reconcile in jesus mighty name amen
These kids must have tons of toys. Whenever they are out of the house, they are toy shopping.
Whenever people see them. I bet they are out a lot more than we get to know.