Moby has some pretty believable conspiracy theories about Donald Trump

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In the days leading up to Donald Trump’s inauguration, Moby gave an interview claiming that Trump’s people reached out to him and asked if he’d like to perform at one of the inaugural events. Moby is a big liberal/progressive, and he obviously said no and he obviously hates everything having to do with Trump and Trump’s minions. I never really thought of Moby as a big conspiracy theorist, but to be fair… I think the current state of American politics has brought out the conspiracy theorist in everyone. Especially since so many of the conspiracies seem to be real life at the end of the day. So, Moby took to Instagram yesterday and he posted a photo of Trump with Steve Bannon. This is what Moby wrote:

after spending the weekend talking to friends who work in dc i can safely (well, ‘accurately’…) post the following things:

1-the russian dossier on trump is real. 100% real. he’s being blackmailed by the russian government, not just for being peed on by russian hookers, but for much more nefarious things.

2-the trump administration is in collusion with the russian government, and has been since day one.

3-the trump administration needs a war, most likely with iran. at present they are putting u.s warships off the coast of iran in the hope that iran will attack one of the ships and give the u.s a pretense for invasion.

4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he’s a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.

5-intelligence agencies around the world, and here in the u.s, are horrified by the incompetence of the trump administration, and are working to present information that will lead to high level firings and, ultimately, impeachment.

i’m writing these things so that when/if these things happen there will be a public record beforehand. these are truly baffling and horrifying times, as we have an incompetent president who is essentially owned by a foreign power. -moby

[From Moby’s Instagram]

Here’s the thing: I read all of this and I thought “yeah, that probably checks out.” Unhinged conspiracy or just the realities of the world we live in now? But I guess Moby got some push-back on that IG, because he later posted another Instagram, this time with a drawing of a clown. He wrote:

Hey, I’m just a clown. I mean, maybe there isn’t a #trump administration plan to go to war with Iran. And maybe trump’s inner circle isn’t filled with Russian operatives. And maybe russia Doesn’t have utterly damning info on trump that’s keeping him under their thumb. And maybe the Koch bros and their pals aren’t looking at options to get trump out of the White House.

Just don’t look too closely at Flynn and manafort and the uss Cole and the Russians who’ve disappeared or died recently and what’s currently happening in the Ukraine. Again, I’m just a bald clown who probably knows nothing. I’m going to go make some balloon animals now.

[From Instagram]

Wait, the USS Cole? That was a terrorist attack (by Al-Qaeda) which happened just days before the 2000 election. Russia didn’t have anything to do with it, but maybe Moby is making a point about a terrorist attack that affects politics. But yeah, it’s true that in the past month, at least one Russian – a suspected double-agent and ex-KGB chief who leaked information about Trump’s Russian connections – has died mysteriously. I also believe that “the Koch bros” have never liked Trump and want to throw their weight around. I believe most of the Republican establishment would rather work with a President Pence rather than Baby Fists.

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  1. Indira says:

    I don’t know.. I think it’s pretty obvious that the Republican establishment doesn’t like him. They used him to win the election and yeah, it’s possible that Pence will be the new president within 1-2 years.

    • Jem says:

      Try 1-2 months… I shudder to think what this deranged bozo could do with 1-2 years…

      And nobody ‘likes’ Trump. Nobody. His own wife doesn’t want to live with him.

      • Natalia says:

        Not true that no one likes Trump. I’ve got a bunch of high-school friends on my Facebook that want a boycott of Nordstrom LOL. Still a lot of people who like him. Let’s see how that works out. If he gets impeached they’ll be forever complaining that he was wronged though.

      • astana says:

        Lots of people like Trump. The rally I attended here had about 13k people, and he came back a few months later and got the same amount. The arena was packed! This was repeated all over the country. Many people love the fact that he’s not a politician and those people have every right to their opinions and beliefs. Don’t delude yourself based on the biased screeching and hysterical hand wringing by the lugenpresse. This is what we the people want. You had your way for the past eight years, and now it’s our turn. Unfortunately I believe the behavior of your side will lead to a new civil war. When citizens loathe their fellow citizens like the left does the right, what else could happen? You don’t want the society we want and vice versa. Better we break up now.

      • HappyMom says:

        @astana: and hundreds of thousands of people came out and marched AGAINST him. Of course he has supporters-he won the election. But he is not well liked by the GOP establishment. Bannon and Miller doing all kinds of crazy things. What does Russia have on him that he’s so reluctant to speak out against Putin? There is something up. I don’t disagree with all of his policies, I like Gorsuch, I think some of his Cabinet picks are fine. But don’t be so quick to dismiss reports that the Intel community is withholding information from him because they have serious concerns. This is not as simple as right vs left: there is WAY more to it than that.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “This is what we the people want.”

        Except “we the people” voted for the OTHER candidate. You can’t pretend that Trump is the president Americans want when he lost the popular vote by 3 MILLION.

        “I believe the behavior of your side will lead to a new civil war. When citizens loathe their fellow citizens like the left does the right, what else could happen”

        Do you say that when you hear people call those on the left “snowflakes” or SJW? Did you speak out against the divisiveness of the Tea Party and their racist imagery?

      • Valois says:

        Astana, don’t use terms if you don’t know how to spell them.

      • Zip says:

        @astana: You know who uses the word “Lügenpresse”? Neo-Nazis. There is no such a thing like a “Lügenpresse”. However, there is Nazi propaganda which is consumed by the people who scream “Lügenpresse!” on every occasion. This propaganda makes things up and prints LIES that can be fact-checked and proven wrong within minutes. The same thing is going on in the USA. Just listen to Trump, Spicer and this awful blonde hag. Congrats on being so blinded by hate. Left-winders are not the problem, you are!

    • holly hobby says:

      Well at least Pence will not read confidential information in a public dining room and he would not make us go to war. Furthermore, he isn’t owned by the Russians.

      Lesser of two evils I know!

    • Elle R. says:

      The thing that worries me about Pence is that he’ll be much more subtle about his bat-shite crazy plans and so the public outrage and reporting will be much less.

      • tmot says:

        Pence will definitely be terrible. And he may be able to accomplish more because he has a better understanding of how government works.

        It’s just crazy!

    • cd says:

      I fear the future is not that long… The planet doesn’t have 1/2 years if thing keep on like this.

  2. SusanneToo says:

    He didn’t need to back down. Everything on his original post sounds accurate and I am sure will be eventually proven.

    • evie says:

      Agreed. I was telling my sister this morning that Pence is practicing his presidential signature as we speak. I would rather go through this period with Pence than Trump. At least with Pence I don’t worry about us being nuked into oblivion.

  3. Neelyo says:

    The Kochs have had a hard on for Pence for years. If that pesky religious liberty bill hadn’t derailed him, they would have surely thrown all of their campaign resources behind The Silver Turd.

    • vespernite says:

      “Silver Turd”! Love it!

      But fear him, he’s a religious fundamentalist we don’t need that in the White House either. I want the whole lot of the Trump Administration and that includes his appointees to be vacated from the country , let alone the government.

  4. MunichGirl says:

    Didn’t the Koch brothers want to get rid of Drumpf?

    • Jenns says:

      Yes. They did not support him. They funded other republicans running for the House and Senate.

    • astana says:

      What is with the use of Trump’s original ancestral name as a slur? Especially from people that despise making fun of others for any reason? Don’t tell me all those vaunted principles and moral righteousness is just a cudgel to beat other people with, and you have no real plans of practicing what you preach?

      • tw says:

        It’s irony. Apparently lost on you. Drumpf criticized Jon Stewart for not using his “ancestral name”. If you can read, you should google it.

      • cd says:

        We know this is your job and you are being paid for this, but please either step up your game or just STOP, dear troll. Best regards!

      • Izzy says:

        How much is Bannon paying you to troll this Nazi crap here? WE SEE YOU.

      • jwoolman says:

        Astana – The Trump ancestor at one point tried to pass himself off as Swedish… Not sure when exactly they converted Drumpf to Trump, but it’s not uncommon for names to evolve in such a way even just because otherwise they can be hard to pronounce when you no longer have the sound set of the original language. Nowadays Trump has clearly said that he thinks his German genes are superior, which is another issue.

        Anyway, it’s just a joke. Mockery has been an important tool in dealing with illegitimate and incompetent officials since before the Revolution here in the United States. You just don’t find it funny because you like Trump. I’m sure King George’s loyalists likewise were not pleased with similar mockery of the king’s representatives in the American colonies. But Trump himself mocks people with wild abandon, so not sure why a Trump supporter would have problems with it.

  5. LinaLamont says:

    “4-there are right wing plans to get rid of trump. he’s a drain on their fundraising and their approval ratings, and the gop and koch brothers and other u.s right wing groups are planning to get rid of trump.”
    I posted this over a month ago. It’s hardly a revelation.

    • Lacia Can says:

      Pretty sure I read in WaPo about the Koch brothers’ plot to get rid of 45. So ITA, not a big secret. The Kochs like politicians they can control, and no one can control a narcissist.

    • Kori says:

      You’re right it’s no secret. They’ve even started a pac.

  6. Christin says:

    I assume he was being insulted and trolled after his first post. My own life experience suggests that when that happens, you have usually hit a nerve (otherwise known as unvarnished truth). They doth protest too much and all that.

  7. Nina says:

    None of those theories sound especially farfetched.

  8. Dtab says:

    I genuinely believe that Trump wants a terrorist attack or war to happen so that he can get greater control. I wouldn’t put it passed Bannon etc. to construct one themselves in order to remain in power.

    • BW says:

      I think that’s what was ultimately behind the Muslim ban. He’s hoping to really piss some radicals off.

      • Jaded says:

        That’s exactly what is happening – Steve Bannon is wetting his pants waiting for
        the opportunity to use a crisis like a terror attack to seize emergency powers that would instantly subjugate the constitution to a fascist maniac. Then we can all kiss our asses goodbye.

    • ELX says:

      Their very own reichstag fire. But, the Iranians want to dominate the Persian gulf, control the Straits of Hormuz, and displace our naval presence. With or without Cheeto Easy D and his minions that powder keg will eventually explode. It’s possible that the Russians have dreams of actually conquering oil-territory and are hustling Cheeto to be belligerent as cover, but I doubt their ability to project that kind of force and consolidate such a position.

    • cd says:

      They crave for destruction.

  9. Don't kill me I'm French says:

    Even if it is untrue,all these theories are believable because of Trump.
    A paranoid Moby looks more sane or less clown than Orange Shunk President

  10. Pantalones en fuego says:

    These aren’t necessarily conspiracy theories and you don’t need friends in D.C. to realize this stuff is happening. What is a conspiracy theory is that the powers that be in D.C. Have been wanting war with Iran for a loooong time which is why Cheeto Satan was “allowed” to win.

    • lucy2 says:

      Exactly – I read every one of them nodding – I’ve heard and/or thought all of them in the past few weeks.

  11. sarri says:

    I also believe that the war with Iran will happen.

    • NotSoSocialButterfy says:

      Eh, Congress has to give the green light and I do not believe that will happen, given how the populace are daily becoming more and more disenchanted with tRump administration. GOPers really have to start thinking about covering their asses in the mid term elections.

      • Lacia Can says:

        If it’s true that the Koch brothers want 45 gone, Congress won’t cooperate wrt a war with Iran. The Kochs own plenty of members of Congress, including Lyin’ Ryan. It could be the one and only time that pos actually does some good.

      • jwoolman says:

        Congress has always been reluctant to shut down wars, ongoing or incipient, for fear they will be called wimpy. Of course true patriotism means not going along with stupid wars. But most people are afraid to not go to war, no matter how stupid it is.

    • Saras says:

      Russia has been cultivating Trump for over 5 years. Russian oil company Roseneft sold 19% to unknown buyer (likely Trump) and need sanctions and Rex Tillerson to get the drilling permitted for trillions of oil monies. The facts are out there!

      • Beentheredonethat says:

        Yea. Wasn’t it also in that dossier that Putin had offered Trump 19% in Rosenefvt before the campaign even started? That’s why the offshore sale to unknown buyer right around the inauguration is sooo suspect. Who doesn’t believe that dossier is true at this point?

  12. robyn says:

    His theories are as clownish and unbelievable as the idea that an authoritarian insulting corrupt p*ssygrabbing conman would one day be president of the US.

    • Elle R. says:

      I started reading your comment and was like “ugh” and then I finished reading them and thought “yay!”

      I keep thinking of the TV Listings guide out of Scotland that referred to the inauguration as a Twilight Zone episode.

    • Lorelai says:

      @Elle/@Robyn I had the same reaction! But I was also thinking…”if this is the Robyn that comments here frequently, she is not at all insane,” so it made sense after I read it al the way through! 😂

  13. Khaleesi says:

    I guess it’s really time to build a bunker. Even my neighbor who laughs about things like that and always says it’s nonsense (conspiracy blah blah) says it’s possible that we will be involved in another war and he really never says things like that etc.

    • astana says:

      Lots of people like Trump. The rally I attended here had about 13k people, and he came back a few months later and got the same amount. The arena was packed! This was repeated all over the country. Many people love the fact that he’s not a politician and those people have every right to their opinions and beliefs. Don’t delude yourself based on the biased screeching and hysterical hand wringing by the lugenpresse. This is what we the people want. You had your way for the past eight years, and now it’s our turn. Unfortunately I believe the behavior of your side will lead to a new civil war. When citizens loathe their fellow citizens like the left does the right, what else could happen? You don’t want the society we want and vice versa. Better we break up now.

  14. Izzy says:

    I think Moby is completely right. As of Feb. 3rd, the USS Cole is off the coast of Yemen in response to an attack on a Saudi frigate. Flynn was still working for President Agent Orange at that point, and his statement was quoted in an article on news.usni. org:

    On Wednesday, National Security Advisor Michael Flynn said as a result the attack on the frigate in the Red Sea — and the Sunday test launch of a ballistic missile outside of Tehran — was now, “on notice.”

    “These are just the latest of a series of incidents in the past six months in which Houthi forces that Iran has trained and armed have struck Emirati and Saudi vessels, and threatened U.S. and allied vessels transiting the Red Sea,” read the statement.

    “In these and other similar activities, Iran continues to threaten U.S. friends and allies in the region.”

  15. ScrewStewRat19 says:

    I am so sure we will end up at war with Iran, we’ve already put them on notice. The fact that they are threatening to drop the American dollar when their fiscal year starts has me thinking it will for sure happen. We don’t trade much with them, but their oil that is exported is priced in USD. I know they’ve threatened it before, but I’m sure they are more serious now with that orange clown being in charge and him imposing that stupid ban. Saddam also started threatening to drop the USD before we went to war with Iraq. Iraq 2.0 is in the making. The writing is on the walls.

    I’m worried that if this does happen it will be the start of WW3. Trump is trying to cozy up to Putin, but I don’t think Russia will support us if we go to war with Iran, or they will and betray us. I just don’t see any good coming from trying to befriend Russia while Putin is in charge. He hates America and wants to see the country fall. Maybe I’m just super paranoid, but Trump and his administration have me on edge. They are trying so hard to impose fear on people, republicans and democrats. Obviously it’s working and I’m wondering if their incompetence is just that, or a carefully calculated plan to push their agenda. I can’t quite put my finger on it, but I’ve never felt this uneasy about our government before. I can’t stand it.

    • astana says:

      But when Obama was cozying up to Russia, it was ok. Gotcha! Remember him caught on an open mike telling Medvedev he’d have more leeway after his second election? Even though Medvedev was Putin’s actual puppet?

      • HappyMom says:

        You can be for a stronger policy on Iran and still think Trump is a terrible president, btw.

      • astana, you’re doing nothing but deflecting. If you have nothing good to say about who you’re backing, then you have no good argument to make, period. “But Hillary!” “But Obama!” are all Trump supporters have and it gets old reading the exact same Fox news talking points from people trying to sound intelligent.

      • screwstewrat19 says:

        If you can’t comprehend the difference in the relationships between Obama and Putin compared to Trump and Putin then I don’t even know how to respond. Putin didn’t even like Obama and of course he was trying to be cordial with Putin, that’s what most world leaders do.

        But why even bring Obama up as if everyone who opposes Trump loved Obama? For the most part I didn’t even like Obama. I only liked the things he did for the environment and getting gay marriage legalized. Stop using Democrats as a deflection for Trumps behavior. I had plenty of issues with things that Obama did. Just because you’re affiliated with a party doesn’t mean you can’t disagree with or criticize a representative of that party.

      • cd says:

        So tired of these paid trolls. Just go away! Collect your payment and go away.

      • jwoolman says:

        Astana – a President always has more leeway in the second term because there won’t be a third term. Same is true for Congress people not running for re-election. Look at McCain – he is starting a six year term and probably won’t run again. That’s why he can persist in things that he might have hesitated to do while still looking ahead to the next election. There was nothing sinister about Obama’s remark.

      • nicegirl says:

        OMG Astana, troll much?

        celebitches are not stupid

  16. robyn says:

    Flynn, Bannon and Trump. I am guessing these three planned something for quite some time and Russia somehow fits into the scheme as does Iran. It IS very fishy that Flynn came out with that brief ominous “on notice” to Iran. Sometimes I think Trump is a pawn and seeing just part of the picture he is in … other times, I think he is all the way in perhaps because he can be blackmailed.

    • astana says:

      But Hillary couldn’t be blackmailed since the Clintons are so pure and principled? Is this bizarro world? Now Iran is our great ally and Russia is our enemy? What on earth are you people smoking?

      • The Rickest Rick says:

        Astana you are a very scary person – scarier still, there are so many like you.

        You were asked upthread if you have approved and agreed with all the executive decisions made by Trump and co so far – I don’t see any answer to that?

        It’s okay to realise and admit you’ve made a mistake. In fact it makes you a stronger, more thoughtful and introspective person. I wonder if there are many original Trump supporters who now are performing mental gymnastics to keep trying to tell themselves that everything is okay and that Trump is performing in his position admirably. It must be exhausting and I do feel for those who didnt realise until too late that they’ve made a huge mistake.

        But it’s okay to admit your mistake. In fact you would be respected and admired for it. All Trumpites hear this – you will be welcomed with open arms. If you are now horrified by what the US Presidency has become and its not what you expected, it’s okay. Come to us, we can all work together for a rational future!!

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Ah, Rick. You’re a good person to try. Astana’s comments suggest someone who is eagerly promoting neo-Nazi propaganda, as reflected by the use of the term lugenpresse (lying press).

        I think that Trump supporters are a subset of Trump voters, and you may be trying to reach the voters who might have had some ambivalence. They will need direct evidence that their lives are worsened by his presidency before they are willing to deal with their cognitive dissonance.

        As for the ongoing Trump supporters, America had its white supremacists before and all they are is emboldened.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Ah, Rick. You’re a good person to try. Astana’s comments suggest someone who is eagerly promoting neo-Nazi propaganda, as reflected by the use of the term lugenpresse (lying press).

        I think that Trump supporters are a subset of Trump voters, and you may be trying to reach the voters who might have had some ambivalence. They will need direct evidence that their lives are worsened by his presidency before they are willing to deal with their cognitive dissonance.

        As for the ongoing Trump supporters, America had its white supremacists before and all they are is emboldened.

        Also, and this is probably a coincidence, the name “Astana” is the capital of Kazakhstan.

      • cd says:

        GO AWAY!

        Just report these comments, people, they are propaganda.

      • susanne says:

        Rickiest of the Ricks-
        Bless you for making a reasonable attempt at a reply.
        As much as I want to engage with some folks and debate point by point, it feels like banging my head into a wall.
        It is so unfortunately rare to find someone on the ‘right’ who is openminded, intelligent, and informed. I would like to have a discussion with someone I disagree with. I can’t with the nonsensical cliched speech and talking points, though.
        Great points by so many people here. I truly appreciate it.

      • Izzy says:

        Rick and WATP – thank you for calling out the Bannon Nazi troll. Astana, you outed yourself as the racist troll you are, now get lost.

      • jwoolman says:

        The Clintons have been investigated multiple times by Republicans who hate them and always have come up clean. At some point you have to admit that there is nothing there. Hillary has been smeared for decades because she is competent and may actually get things done. If she were incompetent and dumb, nobody would bother.

        There is no reason to believe that Hillary could be blackmailed by Putin. But Putin does hate her – in pictures, her body language shows that she is the alpha and he isn’t. Hillary is tough and knowledgeable and well prepared. Trump is an ignorant marshmallow who goes along with the last person he talked to. Putin loves him because he is easily manipulated.

  17. Lucy says:

    In all seriousness, Moby’s social media (FB, IG, and I guess also Twitter) are pure beauty. He’s so delightfully bitchy and snarky (about the right things, ofc). Follow him, like, share, comment, have fun.

  18. Patty says:

    War with Iran would be the end of the US of A. Iran is not the problem, never has been. The real problem in the Middle East are the Saudi’s, who have been exporting extremists for decades in an effort to keep them out of their own house. With falling oil prices, they’ve also cut subsidies and a host of other benefits to their citizens – it’s a powder keg waiting to blow.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      Correct! This will be our kids dying for the Saudi Empire once again. We have to RESIST any and every way possible!

      • astana says:

        You do realize that Hillary took millions of dollars from the Saudis, right? But somehow she wouldn’t have been beholden to them? Maybe you should’ve resisted her instead.

      • adastraperaspera says:

        I guess you must follow my comments, because that’s the only way you know I was a Hillary voter. Hi. I have always been against U.S. support of the Saudi govt and shared my concerns with the Obama administration. I would have been advocating against working with them if this was a Clinton administration in place also. I do worry corporations and politicians are beholden to the Saudis. I am an atheist who does not believe any country should be run by religious groups, including Xtian ones.

      • jwoolman says:

        Prepare for a military draft that will take both men and women with no educational deferments. That has been in the works for years. More recently, Congress has been considering having young women register for the draft at 18 (can’t remember if it has gone through or not, but it is consistent with the fact that women are now eligible for combat assignments).

        Think now what you will do if your nearest and dearest are caught up in a draft to protect the profits of a few. At the same time, consider how to deal with young people considering enlistment as volunteers. If the economy tanks as is predicted, military enlistments will go up. Veterans’ benefits will go down, as they always do in “hot” wars.

        As long as we keep going along with war, we will never have anything but one war after another.

      • jwoolman says:

        Astana – the millions of dollars from the Saudis went to the Clinton Foundation’s projects in their region, not into the Clintons’ pockets. I know you want to believe the Clinton Foundation was as corrupt as the Trump Foundation, but it just wasn’t. They were well respected and rated highly by organizations that monitor charities. Their overhead was only about 11%, which is excellent. You can look it up since they were a public Foundation. Their projects often focused on health issues such as the huge AIDS problem on the African continent and providing relevant medication and health care. This is of direct interest to the Saudi government, hence their donations.

  19. QQ says:

    A) Following Moby Now

    B) Nothing he said sounds in any way far fetched or anything

  20. jj says:

    So scary!!!

  21. Jerkface says:

    The government is creepy as fux. Bunch of old culty white dudes doing creepy things and messing with people’s lives. I cry freedom and the wind answers back “sorry too busy being a creepy old gas bag no freedom for you today”

  22. astana says:

    So interesting that those conspiracy theories are believable when they’re about someone you dislike! Are you going to get a tin foil hat?

    • Elgin Marbles says:

      They’re hardly all theories. There’s far too much hard evidence of Vibrating Bologna Loaf’s collusion with Russia. Flynn took the hit for his administration. Someone like that doesn’t go off the ranch unless he has specific instructions from his bosses.

    • HappyMom says:

      Keep burying your head in the sand. We’ll all be here saying “I told you so” in the not so distant future.

    • Lady D says:

      Several people have asked you questions now, astana. Are you going to answer any of them? Not in the troll playbook?

      • Izzy says:

        Even worse, a Nazi troll.

      • jwoolman says:

        Yes, I would guess Astana’s sources are of the Fox News and Breitbart type, certainly including neonazi interests. I’ve never run into the term Lügenpresse before myself, so he or she must read quite a bit in neonazi sources to think that was a well-known term. Apparently it was used by some people at Trump rallies, however. And interestingly enough, although the term is denounced in modern Germany because of its anti-Semitic Nazi past, it was frequently used in East Germany against the West.

      • Izzy says:

        It’s been talked about enough recently that if someone is using a Nazi-era term, they can really only be doing it deliberately. And there’s no reason to use it the way she is unless it’s forming part of her belief system. No free pass for the uneducated for this garbage.

  23. Elle R. says:

    It’s sad that I read this and didn’t go “Oh look, another crazy musician” but instead thought “Wow, Moby is saner and more tuned in to current events than most of our elected officials … ”

    I also need to use this space to say that anyone visiting LA should visit Moby’s restaurant, Little Pine. It’s excellent and will likely change the way you view vegan cuisine – it’s good and not “good for vegan.” But try to get a reservation. It’s usually packed.

  24. Erica_V says:

    I’m so proud of everyone for not feeding the Russian troll!!

    None of these conspiracies sound far fetched at all. And seriously, has anyone doubted that dossier? The fact that multiple govt agencies knew about it and/or had copies of it but it was all kept VERY secret is telling to me.

    Why hide something if it’s all fake?

    • Elgin Marbles says:

      I fed the troll a bit of cake. It’s all good though.

      • NYGal says:

        I was about to feed the troll upthread, but erased it all. I figured most Trump supporters will find an excuse even for the most inexcusable of behaviors, or deflect to an Obama or Clinton reference.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      I answered it, but hopefully the morsel was not nourishing.

  25. JRenee says:

    Who left the troll gate ooen? Sheesh. If you are at a left leaning friendly site and don’t like it, why stay?

  26. Rori says:

    Interesting. I’m only just reading this post for the first time, and there are a lot of comments above so maybe someone has already pointed this out, but Flynn really was a top ranking official who turned out to actually have nefarious connections to Russia. So, I don’t think we can really write Moby off as “misinformed” or “crazy” now….

    • lucy2 says:

      Not to mention Yates informed Trump of all this a while back and he did nothing…except fire Yates.

      Regardless of party affiliation, politics, beliefs, etc, no one should be ok with this. People high within the executive branch are colluding with, influenced by, or being manipulated by a foreign government with ill intentions.

      • NYGal says:

        The Yates firing now looks like a bigger issue than it originally did. I still am astounded that his supporters can justify ALL his actions.

  27. fabulousfunster says:

    “heart” Mob y x

  28. Shannon says:

    Unfortunately, none of this sounds far-fetched to me at all. As someone with a 21-year-old son (aka ‘draftable’), this worries me immensely.

    • HappyMom says:

      My oldest son is 16-I worry too 🙁

    • jwoolman says:

      Start worrying about your daughters. They will also be draftable. No educational deferments this time, they will be taken straight from high school. Young women will soon be required to register for the draft at 18. This plan predates Trump, but if he wants to wage as many wars as it sounds, I don’t see how he can avoid calling up a draft. For the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Bush had to bring in the state National Guard units and their equipment (which is why so much equipment and personnel were not available for Katrina rescue work).

  29. Kaiser, you missed the point about the USS Cole. He was saying look at where it’s stationed now (in regards to his point number 3 above). It wasn’t to do with the 2000 attack.