Taylor Swift’s new single ‘Gorgeous’ is about Joe Alwyn’s impossible beauty

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Even though I’m a Dedicated Snake Hater™, I can at times appreciate Taylor Swift’s music for what it is: frothy, superficial pop music. I’ll admit to singing along with more than a few Swift songs, and I will even admit to relating to one or two of her songs. Granted, I’m older than Swift and I’m not an innocent blonde child, so I can’t relate that much. But I’ll say it: her new song “Gorgeous” took me back to my high school-college era. That moment when you want to talk to the really good-looking guy but you just can’t because you’re scared and nervous and OMG what if he, like, doesn’t even care? Behold, Tay-Tay’s “Gorgeous.”

“I got a boyfriend, he’s older than us, he’s in the club doing I don’t know what…” So, this is another song about Joe Alwyn?? She also made a reference to Joe’s youth in “Ready For It,” with the lyrics: “He don’t try at all, though/Younger than my exes but he act like such a man, so/I see nothing better, I keep him forever.” Everyone believe this is about Joe and his beauty. Hm. So, yeah… I actually think Tom Hiddleston is more attractive than Joe…?

While some have theorized that Taylor’s Reputation is going to be another lyrical burn book slamming all of her enemies (Calvin Harris, Tom Hiddleston, Kimye, Katy Perry), I’m starting to wonder if many of the songs are just about Joe, with a few jabs and digs in there about Tom Hiddleston? I mean, Joe Jonas got a whole song devoted to him. Jake Gyllenhaal got several songs devoted to him. Harry Styles practically got half an album devoted to him. Wouldn’t it be a bigger diss to Tom Hiddleston if she only mentions him as a lyrical aside?

Also: while I still don’t “get” why “Look What You Made Me Do” was some kind of audaciously self-aware moment from Swift, I will give her this: I appreciate the fact that she’s truly letting her stalker-flag fly. “Gorgeous” is flat-out about a girl who is obsessing over a guy and objectifying him and imagining all of the things she wants to tell him.

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  1. Zeddy says:

    Cripes that was awful.

    • Razswirl83 says:

      This is a comedy Pop album right? I mean she can’t seriously think this is good music.

    • Christo says:

      It copies the very beginning of “I Can’t Stand the Rain” made famous by Tina Turner. Other than that, this is garbage. Yet another idiosyncratic track that is all about Taylor and HER experiences, completely unrelatable to the masses. Reputation will be Taylor’s ArtPop. She has devolved into even more inane lyrics, whose soaring chorus always attempts to be the lifejacket to rescue an otherwise plodding, mechanical song. That formula no longer works. Her lyrics feel as if someone superglued a random mix of twitter ramblings, instagram posts, and text messages with the hope that the “sweet intent” would shine through to save the song upon intentions alone. She should have called this album 1990: The Year I Left Music. For a truly good album in the pop vein, Lorde’s Melodrama is the standout for 2017 thus far.

      • Tanya says:

        Ann Peebles sang “I Can’t Stand the Rain”. Carry on.

      • zuzusgirl says:

        Tanya- It also became a hit with Tina Turner.

      • Christo says:

        @Tanya If you can read and I assume you can….read closely, I said “made famous” by Tina Turner; not originated. Carry on with your over-sights.

      • bluhare says:

        Sorry, but I remember Ann Peebles singing that song. So did Tina. Who made it famous depends on your generation. Carry on.

      • Shannon says:

        I honestly find some of her songs quite relateable. But anyway, who else’s experiences would she write about? Mine? Yours? I mean, as the saying goes, “Write what you know.” It’s just lighthearted pop and I don’t really think it’s meant to be taken so seriously.

      • JRenee says:

        Gawd, Ann Pebbles sang the hell out of that song. I was just a kid but hers is the one I associate with the title. And I say that as a fan of Tina!

      • Zeddy says:

        She ripped off miss Tina?!? It got worse.

    • jammypants says:

      Musically, it’s your standard issue pop. Lyrically, it’s juvenile.

    • Miss S says:

      Even if not paying attention to the lyrics this isn’t a song I feel like listening to again. I wonder how people who like it would feel if they didn’t know this was from Taylor. I needed some great pop but this isn’t it:/

    • Originaltessa says:

      This song would have been cut from 1989. She’s really in a slump. And of course the most gorgeous guy she’s ever seen looks like he could be her brother. She’s in love with herself.

    • holly says:

      How old is she, 12?

  2. Lucy says:

    I sort of love it , it cute and fun and the line about her cats made me smile .

  3. Jaii says:

    Nah I love it , it’s frothy pop when u need frothy pop and it does remind u of that moment u get a crush… apparently this is a hint she met joe before Tom when she was still with Calvin, that’s the basis of this song, and how cute is James Reynolds at the start, god I’m broody lately…

  4. third ginger says:

    Should we thank this ridiculous girl for a break in the daily awful news? I thought there was a lyric about a boyfriend being “up in the club.” Who was this? Harris, we would think. However, if it is Thomas William Hiddleston, late of Eaton, Cambridge, and RADA, we need the pictures. Right, dear SIXER? And, of course, Hiddleston is more attractive than this kid.

    • Handwoven says:

      Lollll at the thought of Mr Hiddleston out “in the club”, with the implication he’s partying it up in some naughty way. Like he’d be on a tonne of gak and grinding up on people, instead of like, sipping tea in a corner before breaking out the dad dancing.

      And yes, this song is awful and YES, it was at least something that could be read without wanting to cry or vomit like every other story.

      • third ginger says:

        Glad you laughed. I meant it to brighten the day.

      • Handwoven says:

        It did indeed but then, who else could she mean?
        She’s so in wuv right now this can’t be about someone other than… old Whatshisname.
        For it to be Calvin up in da club wouldn’t think have to be about Hiddles? And she wouldn’t write this about him.

      • Br1500 says:

        Too funny. I love this

      • Cranberry says:

        “sipping tea in a corner before breaking out the dad dancing.”

        Um. Tom used to go dancing in London clubs a lot during his younger days. He loves to dance, and is actually a pretty good. Man’s got some mad rhythm!

        Don’t judge his skills by the Met Gala with TayTay in a tuxedo. Everyone’s got their off days. But don’t think he was ever part of the ‘club-scene’, that would sound more like Calvin.

        Didn’t listen to the song btw. I’m sure I’ll eventually be subjected to it.

  5. Toot says:

    He’s not gorgeous (to me) and that song sucks.

    • HadToChangeMyName says:

      To me, either, and that sort of syrupy, over-the-top gushing is just embarrassing for a woman her age. Especially since she’s done the. exact. same. thing. soooo many times before about so many other guys (Styles, anyone?).

    • ell says:

      he’s very generic. she’s had much prettier boyfriends.

      @HadToChangeMyName: ‘To me, either, and that sort of syrupy, over-the-top gushing is just embarrassing for a woman her age.’

      meh, it’s a song, she’s not gushing about him on an interview.

    • Blueee says:

      Agreed. I watched the Zac Efron and Taylor Swift duet and Valentine’s interview a week ago, and Zac Efron is someone who is drop-dead gorgeous, it was obvious Taylor had chemistry with him. I think Jake was one of Taylor’s best, while Zac was her was suppose to happen, best. Harry was pretty hot during 2013 but after that he became nothing special, regardless, he is no where near one of her most attractive boyfriends, probably the bottom!

      • Backstage Bitchy says:

        @blueeee I’m a grown-ass woman who can’t stand taylor’s whole schtick, and I’m embarrassed to say this but… harry styles is nowhere near the bottom of the Taylor heap. I and many of my adult friends are embarrassed to find Harry quite hot. Like, way more “gorgeous” than Generic Joe and much sexier than Hiddles.
        It’s subjective, obviously. But I just had to retort to your comment, which seemed to assume that on an attractiveness scale, everyone agrees with your take.
        I’m planting a flag for Adults For Harry: Harry is hot!

    • Cranberry says:

      Guess she’s going to continue to appeal to her fan base of 10 to 15 yr old girls. Gotta cash in before it all dries up or til they grow out of her.

    • Fran says:

      I think this song is about Hiddleston…he’s not a club-goer, so it wouldn’t be a dig towards him…

  6. Jessi says:

    It’s cute? It brought a smile to my face.

    Also the fans that heard the album at her houses said that she confirmed the love songs are all about Joe Alwyn, and she told them they’ve been dating for over a year?

    • third ginger says:

      Yes. she brought the gang to the lunch room and spilled the secrets. But only for the cool kids who can sit at her table. Dear God. this woman is 27. No disrespect to you if you like the song. I am 65 and find her beyond ridiculous.

      • H says:

        @third ginger, I’m 50 but have a 12 y.o. so we do listen to Katie Perry, Pink and the like. But I find Taylor’s music lame. My favorite bands are the greats like Springsteen, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and The Doors. All were incredible songwriters who talked about important issues and even when they didn’t the music rocked.

        Taylor? She’s not talented and so shows no growth as an artist. It’s like she’s perpetually Tiffany from the 80s singing about boys and her trips to the mall! Or maybe I’m just old.

      • ell says:

        maybe the problem isn’t your age, but the fact you’re still salty about your love tommy.

        she’s doing that for her fans, they love it, it encourages sales. it’s not about cool kids or age fgs. not everything taylor does needs to be dissected and hated to this extent.

      • H says:

        @ell, are you referring to me or third ginger? Because I’m a lesbian and as I’ve said many times before here, Tommy, Benny and Fassbender are not my type, so accusing me of hating on their gf/wives is barking up the wrong tree. 😆 OTOH, I’m not sure how liking Hiddleston translates into hating Taylor?

      • ell says:

        @H not you, third ginger.

        ‘I’m not sure how liking Hiddleston translates into hating Taylor?’

        good question, you should probably ask his stans 😛 they seem convinced taylor manipulated and used him, they’ve been bitter since ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      • third ginger says:

        H, it was for me. I find it inexplicable. The bad manners. ell is known to hate posh actors. That’s fine, but I never thought she would be ageist. Taylor’s flaws were explained to me by my 25 year old daughter, who is no Hiddleston fan. I discovered how Swift uses white privilege and victimhood. Many of us like Hiddleston’s acting here on CB. ell always challenges it, but never so rudely.

        For ell, remember that our last exchange here was me recommending a Margaret Atwood book to you.. Sorry you could not keep things in that spirit.

      • Whatever says:

        I’m 35 and I think she’s fun. She’s entertaining, which is the point. I get sick of hearing about the daily cock ups of Trump and co. Plus all the environmental disasters.

      • SerenaBlackChic says:

        To be honest White Privilege isn’t exclusive to Taylor when we are speaking about her and Tom, Tom is white therefore he has it and uses it rather he’s aware or not.

      • ell says:

        @third ginger i certainly didn’t mean to be ageist, what i was trying to say is that your age has nothing to do with the way you look at taylor, it’s mostly being a TH fan. but point taken. i’m sorry, i’ll admit i was being snappy.

        i just find much of the criticism towards taylor to be frustratingly misogynist. those things your daughter mentioned are certainly valid; the white feminism, the victimhood, the not speaking out when it’s needed. i get it, and will never argue over that. trouble is that most of the criticism towards taylor isn’t about those things, but how she acts younger than her age (and? men do it all the time, they don’t act like grown ups until they’re well in their 30s and no one bats an eyelid), or she should be in a serious relationship (does she want to?). i really didn’t see the need to criticise inviting her fans to her house for listening to songs, if it were hozier or adele doing that instead of taylor, would you criticise it?

        @SerenaBlackChic TH uses his white privilege plenty, as a white posh brits. the class problem in britain is a bfd, it’s not just about me being petty and hating posh actors i have a reason for it.

      • jammypants says:

        @ell, TH used his white posh privilege and did a lot. He’s continuing to mentor RADA students, and ensuring students of all backgrounds have a chance, he’s very involved with the BFI too to do the same thing. He’s over the years been passionate about gay rights, women’s rights, and human rights. Before he went dark on Twitter, all you could see for most of his tweets were about the marginalized. He’s written long form and short form journals on female genital mutilation crisis, education, and hunger. I think your knives out for posh actors might be a bit unfair. I read how Eddie Redmayne pays for some students’ rent. Kenneth Branagh, another poshie, is president of RADA and is known for blind casting roles regardless of gender or race or class. I’m fine for criticism, but it helps to back up arguments, not just leave it with “I have my reasons”.

      • Nanny to the Rescue says:

        Hey, can I join in the party? I’m Tommy’s Nanny and I am quite a Swift defender too, ever since Kim didn’t prove what everyone says she proved. Right now, I’ll defend Swift by pointing out that it’s also entirely possible she won’t throw Tom under the bus – the person who described her songs being about Calvin, Joe, Kimye etc. never mentioned Hiddleston. That was added on this site. Dreams are allowed, no? 😀

      • Cranberry says:

        @ell

        I’ve thought Swift overrated, insecure, immature and a complete commercial fabrication long before I became a fan of Tommy.

        I don’t hate all her music, but even the stuff I like I can’t say is even worth half of what the TS machine makes off it.

    • Nicole says:

      That’s what she told them because she knows her stans will spread the message far and wide. Lest anyone think this is about anyone else

      It’s embarrassing that we are the same age

      • jammypants says:

        I don’t get her PR strategy. She made it clear there are no interviews. But she uses her own fans as her mouthpieces. Methinks she needs to pay her fans for doing the grunt work.

    • QueenB says:

      How damn awkward and pathetic is that? You invite strangers to your house and then tell them about your boyfriend and say “Tell everyone”. WTF???

      • Handwoven says:

        Nope, it’s Taylor being Taylor so you say “But like this has to be a secret? Just between me and my friends?” knowing they’ll talk.

    • third ginger says:

      Serena black chic. I never said he didn’t. I was speaking about my daughter’s opinion Swift.

    • third ginger says:

      ell, sorry to be overly sensitive. However, in none of my comments have I ever called Tom a “victim” or even implied it. Also, you are right. The class issue is crucially important. If you look back at older posts of mine, you will see me asking UK posters to explain how this affects the acting profession. Most Americans have little idea of how this works. We can certainly learn from UK friends, which I hope you can be among. I wish you well but don’t know how to do any emojis.

      • SerenaBlackChic says:

        Oh no, I wasn’t trying to be rude. Sorry if it came out that way.
        And I think I’ll leave now. Some of the comments picking at this dudes looks for no reason other than to spiteful to someone else is really gross. (i get ppl think he’s unattractive but as someone who’s been bullied..it’s bringing back bad memories)
        This dude hasn’t done anything to anyone. It’s kind of like people who pick at Vilkander’s (probably spelled wrong) tan or face because they hate she dates MF. Doesn’t make sense.
        But Third Ginger I wasn’t trying to be a meanie. I have a feeling I sound a bit like a swiftie, lol.

      • third ginger says:

        You were in no way rude. White people, like me, always need to be reminded of privilege. I wish more people in my age group understood the concept. And it is certainly true that joking can turn into something hurtful. My best to you.

  7. Abby says:

    Sigh. I’ve enjoyed Taylor’s music all these years but I just can’t with this new album. She has great catchy songs, but maybe it’s because she’s releasing these lyric videos first… both songs just really rub me the wrong way.

    This one… so unnecessarily dramatic. Like omg I’m furious that you’re so gorgeous. I’m so happy I turned mad. Just…. so immature. And not ponies and glitter romance like her past albums. Dramatic psycho stalker immature. The guy is an object here. And she’s projecting consequences for him being good looking.

    Do women talk and act this way? I’m a few years older than her. I feel like this is how the 20 year olds on the bachelor talk… maybe. This is not any kind of healthy. If you want to talk to the guy (even though you have a boyfriend?) just talk to the guy. No need for these histrionics.

    Maybe the music video will be better.

    • Abby says:

      That being said, I like the SOUND of it. It’s not that different from some 1989 songs. I just wish the lyrics weren’t so immature and problematic.

      • Annabelle Bronstein says:

        Agreed Abby, the lyrics just kill it for me. Plus it doesn’t really fit with the vibe set by “LWYMMD” and “Ready for it.”

      • Marin says:

        The lyrics are just so…simple. Like rhyming face with face and mad with sad. I feel like she could do better.

    • ell says:

      i don’t really listen to lyrics much (in general) i’m all about the melody, but i’m just not very into her new stuff. i loved 1989, i wanted to sing along and dance everytime her songs came up at a party, but the new music does mostly nothing for me.

    • kibbles says:

      I admit to loving her old songs. I thought 1989 was a decent album and I really liked her Red album. I have not liked any of the songs from her upcoming album though. She’ll still make millions out of it, but I get the feeling the reviews won’t be as good as her previous albums. Her videos will get hundreds of millions of views, but I don’t see any of her newly released singles having staying power on the charts in the same way as Shake It Off or You Belong With Me.

  8. Tiffany27 says:

    He looks like a young Joker.

  9. Adrien says:

    Gorgeous is about Karlie Kloss. And Joe Alwyn looks like Zach from Saved by the Bell.

  10. SerenaBlackChic says:

    Let’s see how many people who hate her and the “there’s so much going on in the world” people decide to spend their time complaining about her terrible music.
    Or asking her to “go away” whilst clicking on every article and listening to the song.

    Lol, I know I will. (I don’t hate her though..I just strongly dislike her. Hate I feel is a word for people who’ve done horrific things in my opinion ( for me to hate someone I don’t know). Not..some petty woman who makes semi-decent music sometimes. I can be petty and stupid as well lol)

    • Jaii says:

      Lol u may be petty like u say (I personally live for petty) , but ur bloody honest too with it, and that is never a fault!

    • Alleycat says:

      I don’t think that’s necessarily fair. I don’t like Taylor, and obviously I clicked on this link. It’s just celebrity gossip, and sometimes it’s fun to vent about celebrities you don’t like. For example, click on an article about Kate Middleton and you will only see negative comments.

      That said, I usually like her songs because they are catchy but this song is probably one of her worst.

      • SerenaBlackChic says:

        Well I’ll put it this way, I’m a black 27-year old woman, I’m not in Taylor’s demographic and I’m not a fan, but I feel like a lot of people take EVERYTHING this girl does way too serious.
        Dissecting lyrics and listening to everything she puts out.
        Then the loose comparisons to Harvey or constantly bringing up her case? yeah, that more than gossip, that’s hate that I’m not cool with.
        To not be fans of her and to be people who casually vent about someone they don’t like, they give her a lot of life and more importance then need be.

        I’m apart of this mess too, but I’ll admit that while Tay is..full of BS at times, I have a strong dislike for her but a bit of like for her as well.
        (Kate M. as well, I feel like the hate she gets is irrational and…gross at times)

        I also really feel bad for this dude who has done nothing for people to hate him, getting all this hate, but..I’m a big softie..so..idk, lol.

    • Kitten says:

      Hahaha…yeah..
      I’m generally ambivalent about her–I’ve both criticized her and defended her in the past–but I do find it amusing that the people who hate her most seem to comment the most on these threads.

      • Nancy says:

        True dat Kitten, but don’t we do the same with 45?! I think when you dislike someone in the biz, you tend to vent more. She has a way of bringing out the worst in people! I don’t recall the snark as much when she was just a country singer, tweeting about her cats.

      • Betsy says:

        I think it’s sad-funny the amount of venom that Taylor generates. She gets even more heat than Woody Allen.

        Not as much as Weinstein and 45*, but they’ve actually done A LOT of stuff to have earned the enmity.

  11. Char says:

    I don’t think Joe or Tom are “gorgeous” now if she was singing about Chris Hemsworth..but I honestly thought this song was about Tom, & that she was making a jab at Calvin Harris with the “my boyfriend’s in the club doing I don’t know what” line. She even talks about being drunk & dancing, which is what happened with her & Tom at the Met Gala, right? The only thing that messes my theory up is the age comment, because Tom is older than Calvin, so I don’t know. I guess it has to be about Joe.

    • third ginger says:

      No. this sounds right.[ I am so ashamed for parsing this nonsense] Also, though handsome is in the eye of the beholder, many people who have met Hiddleston in person say he is very attractive. Agree on Hemsworth, truly gorgeous man.

      • Char says:

        I should have explained better- I don’t think Tom is unattractive, just not gorgeous, to me. He’s got a great smile, & I think his personality adds to his looks, if that makes sense! I didn’t understand why so many people were all about him, then I saw him in an interview and it made more sense. And I love him as Loki! But beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder because I think Ian Somerhaulder is gorgeous & most commenters here think he looks creepy. 😂

      • third ginger says:

        Oh, think nothing of it. Debating about the cute boys keeps me young. My daughter does not think Hiddleston is attractive at all.

      • Stumpcorgi says:

        @Char Fist bump for thinking Ian Somerhalder is hot! We’re a tiny club here on CB so we’d better stick together! 😂 Plus all the work he does for animals and the environment makes me swoon. I don’t understand why people think he’s sanctimonious about it. If he is, he has every right to be! Climate changers deniers are idiots, that’s all there is to it!

      • third ginger says:

        Stumpcorgi, I love your name and symbol! Always wanted a Corgi.

      • StumpyCorgi says:

        @ third ginger Thank you so much! I was fortunate to grow up with corgis and I still miss my little buddies. I’m not superstitious but whenever I see someone walking a corgi, I feel like it’ll be a good day 😊
        Ps— I just realized I misspelled my own username 🤦🏻‍♀️ It’s supposed to be “StumpyCorgi” not “StumpCorgi” 😂

    • A Croatian says:

      YEEEEES! I agree 100 %, I am convinced it’s about Tom! Even though the age thing is messing it up. Sort of like #fakemelania, I totally thought it wasn’t her until I saw there are photos of her at the same event. oh well 🙂

    • jammypants says:

      She’s known for revising her songs she wrote before events transpired so it may very well be about Tom, but now he’s out and Joe is in, she revised it.

      • jetlagged says:

        Isn’t that what she did with Better Man? It was strongly implied it’s about the Calvin break-up, but since it was copyrighted in 2011 at best it was a slight re-work to make it fit her narrative (ugh) for 2016.

      • Cranberry says:

        Agree.

    • Millenial says:

      I think it’s about Tom, but she had to change a couple lyrics to make it about Joe. I just can’t imagine Taylor (or anyone) being overwhelmed by Joe Alwyns looks (he’s not unattractive, he’s just not like, so cute you can’t look at him). Tom — I could see it.

      • Annetommy says:

        Joe – dunno who he is, not fussed – looks about 12 in the picture above.

      • Whatever says:

        This I think Tom H. is gorgeous and charismatic. He seems like such a genuinely nice guy. It still kills me that she dumped him. They were so cute together!

      • KBB says:

        Harry Styles is the only truly attractive guy she’s ever dated, IMO. Tom Hiddleston is charming. The rest are all so generic and bland.

      • Cranberry says:

        Yup. Me thinks this song was first written about Tom. She’s so strategic about her songs to get the most traction by referring to her famous boyfriends, ex’s or celebrity feuds.
        Then here’s Tommy with a sizable and consistently active fan base that think he’s gorgeous or thereabouts. Whereas whatshisname-Joe is not known very well at all, much less having a significant sized fan base that would instantly assume or hope it’s about Tom.
        I say she revised.

    • Whatever says:

      Tom and Calvin are the same age though. Could she be referring to Tom H. being out at the club doing who knows what?

  12. H says:

    I have no idea why anyone finds this girl talented. Her lyrics are pointless and boring and show no insight into anything but herself. Now everyone can’t be songwriters like Bob Dylan or Bruce Springsteen, but damn, this chick has won Grammy’s? I’ll take Pink over her any day.

  13. Alissa says:

    I think Hiddleston looks like a cartoon vampire – not hot at all. Honestly, the only boyfriends she’s had that I thought were attractive were Calvin Harris and Jake Gyllenhaal.

    I honestly would rather this album be a whole bunch of petty, fun, dramatic songs, than a whole album about some rando boring dude who she will break up with within a year. Snore. At least the first option would be fun for gossip.

    • Ira says:

      I like her most when she was with Harris. They looked really gorgeous together. It’s superficial, I know. For some time, after they broke up, I kinda wished they would be back together. Well, I’m just a fan (of Harris, most of the time).

    • Stumpcorgi says:

      @Alissa It’s funny that you mention Tom Looking like a cartoon vampire. I didn’t think he was hot until I saw him playing a vampire in Only Lovers Left Alive. Different strokes for different folks 😂

    • Blueee says:

      I think one of her best was Jake too, Harry she looked weird with, like it didn’t fit, but during 2013.. Harry was looking pretty attractive, so, I can’t deny that. But, I think her “would be” relationship with Zac Efron was one of the best, he looked so good with Taylor, and their chemistry was so undeniable.

  14. Severin88 says:

    He is super cute. Im happy that she is so in amor! But this song is no bueno.

  15. QueenB says:

    Eyes so blue and teeth so grey.

    Holy hell Taylor. If you are mesmerized by a guys looks than make it someone half way decent.

    Also funny how he could be the male twin of Karlie Kloss who also looks similiar to Taylor. But no surprise Taylor would be attracted to someone who looks like her. The moment cloning is a possiblity she will literally f*ck herself.

    • Honeybee Blues says:

      ” The moment cloning is a possiblity she will literally f*ck herself.” Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I spit my chai all over the place, and well worth the clean-up.

  16. Bishg says:

    Eeeeek.
    I am a teacher, and this is the kind of stuff that my 11-year old pupils write on their diaries.
    Seriously, a girl showed me the sweet messages she had written to her secret love and I thought it was cute.
    Then again, a 28-year old woman writes these lyrics, I think it’s pretty pathetic and I feel second-hand embarrassment for her. Wait, no I don’t, cause if she doesn’t, why should I?

    • hilariouso says:

      I wonder though if she plans on directly appealing to tweens for the rest of her career. that will get awkward. at a certain point, kids associate acts w/their younger selves. we’ll see.

  17. Madly says:

    And released the same day as Thor stuff with Sade at Tom in the song. Still a snake, petty and immature. Especially since it is widely known that she has her people watch her boyfriends to keep them in line during the contract period. So the club thing is hilariously BS.

  18. ell says:

    i’m a fan of taylor’s music, unironically because i don’t believe in attaching guilt to my pleasure, but this song is horrendous and i sort of liked the other 2 singles.

    also i don’t think it’s about her newest bf, first of all he’s younger than taylor and secondly it’s a recent relationship. songs are written and composed waaaay before being recorded.

  19. Jayna says:

    I heard one of her songs yesterday playing when I went in to pick up some takeout . It was one of her older country lite songs, and I have to admit it was pretty and melodic and catchy.

    This is a bore. I couldn’t make it to the end and clicked off. I don’t dislike Taylor, and I actually liked her first single and music video to her new album. This, nah.

    • hilariouso says:

      yes! is it just me or did her songs used to sound a lot better pre-reputation? i thought a lot of them were quite catchy

  20. Connie says:

    I agree he’s an impossible beauty in that it’s impossible for him to be beautiful. I know beauty is subjective and if she thinks he’s good looking that’s fine but to me he looks like a ventriloquist dummy come to life.

  21. Miss V says:

    I openly admit that I had high expectations for this album. And so far, I have not liked one song. This one is by far the worst yet. Yikes.

    • ell says:

      it’s uninspired, imo. it’s like she made a new album because it was time to, not because she had good ideas.

  22. Madly says:

    She certainly learned from the last time she released her singles and had a few reviews in her pocket before she released it. Still does not make the song good. Three singles before an album is released feels excessive and this one is noticeably different than the other songs. Feels like damage control from her people. The pard push on the super fans to sell her work so she can on the surface appear like Beyoncé and not do a lot of interviews is funny. Girl is no Beyoncé.

  23. MellyMel says:

    Yeah I don’t like this one. I (eventually) liked the first two singles from this album and bop to them when they come on, but this sounds so juvenile. I’m curious of the direction she’s going with this album cause this one doesn’t vibe with the other songs at all, hmmm.

  24. MI6 says:

    This song is definitely about Tom Hiddleston. The bf in the club is Calvin Harris. I don’t give a sh*t what the stans say, the 🐍 doth protest too much.

    • jammypants says:

      I think it was originally about Tom, then she revised it to be about
      Joe, hence the age reference.

      • MI6 says:

        Agreed, Jammy. But it’s a sharp left. It was written well before poor little Joe. And it explains a LOT.
        PS- I refuse to listen to it. I read the lyrics
        Kanye has a song called “Gorgeous,” btw….

      • jammypants says:

        Haha but she wants everyone to think it’s about Joe 😉

      • MI6 says:

        Yeah she does 😉 she can’t give poor Tommy too much credit
        But it’s him. No question. No wonder he got blindsided so hard.
        She’s just recycling her bullsh*t. Perpetual teenager.

      • jammypants says:

        The song is basically her stalking her guy. Last I recall she stalked Tom on Tumblr before they dated. She even followed a Tom fan blog back in like 2015. I follow this blog, hence why I know haha. Her own stans had screenshots of her liking Tom posts. She also followed him on twitter in 2014. And the same sleuthy stans noted she unliked all Tom related Tumblr posts once they started dating. One particular post I saw on a Taylor blog showed she liked a post suggesting they date (well before they were a thing). I guess she wanted people to think their meeting was organic. But she also hosted the Met Gala and sat him at her table. She also brought up the dancing point, something, if you’re a Tom fan, you’d know he loves. He didn’t follow her until close to Met Gala. Tumblr usually has receipts and it’s fun to read 😉 but since things didn’t work out, she had to revise a song written well before Joe and make it about him. Her PR planted many stories when HS was happening, saying she’s writing songs about Tom, when they were peak Summer of Lurving.

      • ell says:

        this is exactly what i mean about TH stans being bitter. now following someone on twitter is ‘stalking’. i’m scared now, i follow around 300 people on twitter… am i stalking them? i’m so confused.

    • DiligentDiva says:

      She admitted that it was about Joe though, her fans who went to her party were told by Taylor that the song was about Joe.
      Remember guys Joe was also at the Met Gala 2016 and was involved in the planning of it, so she probably met him while still with Calvin. Hiddleston was clearly just her cover cause she didn’t want Joe to be tainted with cheating.

      • MI6 says:

        Sure, Jan. 👌
        She’s been revealed as a chronic liar. Idk why anyone besides her brainwashed fan base would believe her now.

      • jetlagged says:

        How (and why) would an almost-unknown British actor who had at the time exactly one film to his name, which hadn’t even been released yet, be involved in the planning of the biggest fashion/social event in NY?

        If you meant Taylor was involved in the planning, yeah she was a celebrity co-chair (as was Idris Elba), but I’d wager Anna Wintour wants nothing more from her celeb co-chairs than to show up, attend the pre-event party at her house, pose for photos with her the night of the gala, and maybe say a few words before dinner. That being said, I would spend good money to have a bts documentary of Idris and Anna discussing flower arrangements and which tablecloths to use.

      • Scout says:

        LMAO, Joe was a last second invite after the studio pulled some strings – I doubt they even met that night.

      • Cranberry says:

        @jet
        haha. You got it. So what if she told her little pr fan party it’s about Joe. Anything she tells her fans is all scripted. Seriously.
        She and her machine plot out all sorts of narratives so her fans can be led by the nose through a Taylor-ed fantasy. (see what I did there). That’s why her target demographic is the very young school girl set.
        This is not to say that some of her songs aren’t catchy and fun for other age groups. It’s just her promotional narrative tactics are directed at a specific group that will ensure the highest profits and which these tactics will work.

  25. Nancy says:

    Though I’m wrapping up my third decade on earth (a year and half left)…lol, I have a daughter who used to like Swift a bit. I’m sure her songs about her future ex, Joe will be hits with her tweens, and bigger hits on her next album when she’s heart broken. I don’t care about this girl (she perpetually will be a girl, not a woman), but I suggest she lose the stink face. Geez, it doesn’t do her any favors and even with ever growing list of enemies, she will never be a badass! Lighten up Taytay

    • Kitten says:

      I’m wrapping up my fourth decade in exactly one year, 2 months, and 6 days.

      (not that I’m counting!)

      *sobs*

    • spidey says:

      Hello there, my hair is still brownish at the back and silver at the front!!

      • Nancy says:

        third ginger: Happy Birthday!!!! Age ain’t nothing but a number and you have your 25 year old “baby.” In case you haven’t noticed, you’re my fave!!! xoxo

      • Stumpcorgi says:

        @spidey I’m in my 30s and my long hair is totally grey /white. I’m envious of your dark hair! I dye my hair dark brown but it is an increasingly uphill battle. My roots seem to be coming in faster and faster and I can’t keep up. I call them my white walkers. They just keep on advancing, destroying everything in their path! 😂 So many Nice’n’Easy boxes have answered the call, only to be defeated in battle!

      • spidey says:

        Well I just let my hair be its own colour, just get a good cut!

  26. Anatha A says:

    I think the song is about Calvin and Joe. Taylor said to anyone at the private preview that they should tell that the song is about Joe. The part about “He is at a club” fits for Calvin, who is a DJ. Afterall Joe was already at the Met Gala last year. Maybe Tom was the decoy for the great love story of Joe and Taylor. (And a smoke screen for Kimye.)
    It also sounds a lot like Taylor cheated on a previous boyfriend with Joe. Wouldn’t be surprised if the whole thing was going on for far longer than a year.

    • DiligentDiva says:

      This is what I think. Hiddleswift was so obviously fake and now we know more or less why. She was already into Joe and didn’t want him associated with all the drama that happened in 2016. She knew it was coming with Kimye and she probably knew Calvin would lose his sh!t after finding out she cheated on him (She probably knows how he treated Rita Ora) so she used Hiddleston as a convenient cover.
      Hiddleston either was too moronic to realize this, or he went along with it for fame. I mean I go back and forth on this one. Tom brought his mother into all of this, and his niece. Which would speak very poorly of him if he knew the entire time it was fake.

  27. Whatever says:

    I love it! It’s fun and frothy and TIC. Perfect pitch Taylor.

  28. JA says:

    I heard this morning… my God! She’s 26 right? Can’t wait for the stans to proclaim this another masterpiece! It’s kinda scary how many 25+ and way older will eat this up and relate because they are still living in high school….le sigh.

  29. Millenial says:

    This relationship is going to be so, so bad for Joe’s career. Unless he plans to make a career out of being Taylor’s house husband, which is not a bad choice. Seems to be working out well for Eric Johnson and Matt Rutler.

    • QueenB says:

      Only that Taylors career is more dependent on heart break and new guys on a regular basis.

      • GSX says:

        It’s not bad for his career, when… He originally didn’t have one. The guy is 26 years old, did that movie with Kristen Stewart, which was sh** on by the critics.. Nobody even knew he existed, he had zero fan base… It was until he met Taylor and they started dating that’s when his name got out there. He was also living with his parents, and, lastly… He has no ex-gf’s because he never dated because he was “committed to craft” despite being nothing more but over-hyped/mediocre. Check out his film, his scenes are so dull, and meh. Now he’s booking roles because he worked with Ang Lee which is an OK note (for directors, and producers), but, combine that with Taylor Swift? Now they all want him.

    • hilariouso says:

      he’s gotten two movie deals out of it since being linked to her. so, thats something. plus, hetero-cover and exposure

  30. Veronica says:

    I have a bad feeling this album is revving up to be a let down for me after 1989, which was a great pop album. Not that Katy Perry is bringing anything better to the field, but this isn’t really clicking for me.

  31. Laura says:

    I like it. I think it’s about Tom.

  32. Beth says:

    Her boyfriend reminds me of Jared Kushner. They’re both adults, but look like they still haven’t started puberty. I honestly don’t see anything “gorgeous ” about this guy she dating

  33. Scout says:

    That child is hideous, good God.

    • Moira says:

      Hardly hideous come on now … I personally think Tom H is not all that , same for Calvin Harris but a lot of people don’t … The only guy of Taylor’s I’ve found remotely attractive is Jake G .

    • GSX says:

      Jake Gyllenhaal was one of Taylor’s best, like, you said, he comes off sweet interviews, it is obvious he is, just has horrible commitment issues with relationships. Regardless, Jake is a charmer… He’s always laughing and smiling. I think Zac Efron was one of Taylor’s best too, despite them not having dated, it was very obvious she undeniably liked him, the entire time she was looking at him like eye-candy on Ellen, and couldn’t contain herself when Zac spoke and smiled, same on the orange carpet, she kept staring at him. Too bad she never dated Zac, not gonna lie, that would’ve been a power/gorgeous couple.

  34. Erica_V says:

    I’m a TS Stan (I’m sure you all know that by now) but I’m not a fan of this one. The beat is catchy but the lyrics are really really bad. Like rhyming sad with mad is below what she can do. Saying “You should take it as a compliment I made fun of how you talk”? WTF Taylor? No.

    I also side with those saying it’s about Tom. She might say/rewrite to make it seem like it’s about Joe but it’s not it’s about Tom.

    My ranking so far for Rep singles:
    Ready For It
    LWYMMD
    gorgeous

    Tay & I are in a fight right now tho because she held her RI listening party on Wednesday and I did not get an invite. Apparently track #5 is about RI and I’m already obsessed even though I haven’t heard it at all.

    • Scout says:

      I thought it was about TH too. I imagine the majority of the album is going to be songs written about Calvin and Tom with “age” references workshopped in at the last minute.

    • Kitten says:

      Oh man Erica…it’s got to get lonely being a Swifty stan around these parts lol. Hang in there, friend 😉

      • Erica_V says:

        LOL Kitten I run up and down TS posts like an Angie Stan Of A Certain Name with no shame. I feel some people’s gripes are legit while others I feel are not and try to present facts and some just go way overboard to the point I won’t engage.

        I will forever and ever hold my position that nothing she has said, written or will say/write about Kanye is worse than that video he made using her naked likeness and putting her next to accused/convicted DV abusers and rapists.

      • ell says:

        @Erica

        ‘I feel some people’s gripes are legit while others I feel are not and try to present facts and some just go way overboard to the point I won’t engage.’

        same tbh. some of the criticism she gets is something i wouldn’t defend, because it’s true. other stuff? is just specifically targeted towards her because they don’t like her, for whatever reason, and it often is misogynist in nature.

  35. DiligentDiva says:

    The song is obviously about Joe, you guys honestly think she would write a positive one about Tom? Sorry no, her entire break up narrative has been to trash the man. She’s writing nothing good about him. Even the lines about an older boyfriend aren’t about him, it’s about Calvin. This is, Taylor, dumping Calvin for Joe song.
    It does make a good case though that Taylor and Tom weren’t a real thing, and that all along Taylor was protecting her relationship with Joe (whom she met at the Met Gala, because he was involved with the 2016 planning) and that it was all staged.
    She got with Joe in October, which was a month after Hiddleswift and there were talks of her using literally wigs to hid herself in London while with him. Clearly, she is taking a lot of energy to protect this relationship.

    • Scout says:

      No, she is known to have songs written well in advance and then goes back to tweak a lyric to fit a new narrative. This album had been written entirely by September 2016 and the recording was finished in the fall of that year.

    • jetlagged says:

      @DiligentDiva – You keep saying how Taylor went out of her way to “protect” her relationship with Joe, and that Hiddleswift was a total sham, but it almost sounds like you admire her for it. To me it makes her sound like a sociopath. She found the perfect patsy (either willing or clueless) and then proceeded to turn him into a publicly ridiculed spectacle to save herself and “her true love” from any scandal or embarrassment. If true, that’s some effed up sh*t right there.

    • Char says:

      Wow, I can’t believe the commenters that are doubling down on the fact that this song has to be about Joe because Taylor said so. The age line did throw me, but with the comments that said she has been known to tweak her songs to fit her current love life, it makes even more sense that this song is about Tom.

      • DiligentDiva says:

        The song is implying she met Joe while dating Calvin, which makes sense because he was involved with the Met Gala of 2016. How did this nobody get an invite? So yes she had enough time by September to write this song about Joe. She already knew him, and the song is about longing for a guy when you’re in a relationship.
        Sorry, you guys really think that she’s gonna write anything good about Tom?
        And I’m not saying it’s good or bad, but compared to her other relationships Taylor has been extremely protective of this relationship. It’s just the truth of the matter.

      • Madly says:

        He was not involved in the Met Gala. HE most likely had to buy his own tickets to even get in as he was an unknown. Swifties don’t seem to understand how the Met Gala works.

  36. jello says:

    He is gorgeous?? Am I missing something

  37. Scout says:

    Can we start a GoFundMe to get Taylor a pair of prescription glasses and a thesaurus, sis is struggling.

  38. Kitten says:

    I gotta say: this chick has a f*cking BRILLIANT formula. The sheer number of people who will listen to this song just to try to figure out who it’s about….she knows exactly what she’s doing.

    Can’t listen to the song because I’m at work but if it’s anything like the first single she released..? HARD pass for me because that sh*t was atrocious.

    • jetlagged says:

      Save yourself. It’s exactly like the first single, just wrapped in cloying-sweet cotton candy sentiment – with a dash of slightly disturbing emotional dysfunction. In short, classic Taylor.

    • N. says:

      It may have worked once or twice but people are rapidly getting tired of her schtick. My breaking point was when she dragged the barely legal and obviously very unhappy Harry Styles in front of the waiting papaparazzi for a very staged and fake “date” to boost her album sales. My first thought was “Poor boy is so miserable, why are they doing this to him?”
      This girl (I can’t call her woman because she refuses to grow up and still acts like a petulant teenager) is all about herself and nothing but herself. Everything she does is Me, Me, Me! Look at me! Fill my pockets!

      • Moira says:

        Oh come on Harry was not unwilling , that’s trying to change the past for your own narrative far too much. And he certainly didn’t mind the connection when he was letting songs off his album being linked to her .

      • N. says:

        @Moira: Sorry but that’s BS. Which song off his solo album is about her? And why do you think he would even do that so many years later?
        Also, just because someone doesn’t hold up a “Victim!” sign, doesn’t mean he’s doing it all out of his free will. The Harvey Weinstein scandal should have taught everyone how easy it is for those in power to abuse said power. Harry was barely legal at that time, do you really think he had any say in his career or how it was managed by powerful, greedy people like Simon Cowell? Come on, wake up.

    • Stumpcorgi says:

      @kitten Save yourself the headache. I listened to the first 30 seconds and it just sounded like a bored cat randomly walking around on a synthesizer, with asinine teenage whining mixed in. Still it has infected my brain and won’t stop rattling around in there, like a pinball stuck in the table. No offense to cats, who craft far better music with keyboards than TSwift could ever hope to (have someone else) create.

  39. Cali says:

    I won’t apologize for loving Taylor Swift’s frothy music. It’s perfect for cranking up and belting out in the car on a road trip alone. Stress relief, which is much needed nowadays.

    • Erica_V says:

      Come sit with me Cali. My joy is blasting the album version of Wildest Dreams with all the windows down.

  40. BaronSamedi says:

    Seriously though why do her songs suddenly like shit abusers say? Look what you made me do, you should take it as a compliment that I made fun of you, I’m furious at you for being gorgeous… If this were a man saying this to me I would be in fear of my life.

    • MI6 says:

      #MoreTruth

    • Abby says:

      YES THIS ALL OF THIS.

    • Shirurusu says:

      I totally agree. I think the problem is Taylor thinks love and obsessing over someone is the same thing. I don’t know if she’s trying to seem edgy and dark with these lyrics or if it’s who she really is (nightmare dressed as a daydream etc) but she’s got some self esteem issues and some problems with totally obsessing over people I think. Most her lyrics read like an insecure jealous control freak wrote them, it’s embarrassing.

      • graymatters says:

        If she has self-esteem issues then I would say, based on her lyrics, that her self-esteem is higher than is actually warranted. I know it’s common to say that bullies have low self-esteem, but many of them actually think that they’re better than than their victims. Taylor strikes me as being from this camp.

        FWITW, I don’t think she being a bully here. Just shallow.

      • Shirurusu says:

        @graymatters maybe it’s just two different ways of looking at it. I’ve come across some people who act incredibly superior and who blame everyone else for their feelings/ actions (a lot of projection) and my reading of them was that they were never ever really satisfied with themselves or what they were accomplishing in their own lives which is why they had to shit on everyone else. To me that’s a failure in having healthy self esteem and being able to be proud of anything you’ve actually done, or how good you look yourself etc, so you spew hatred on people who seem to have what you feel you don’t.

        Her lyrics this time around remind me quite a lot of the guys I met at bars in my early 20s when the book “the Game” had just been released lol. I agree it’s not that deep though and it’s just a lyric. But I hate these kinds of lyrics who make everything about the person writing them, like “your beauty makes me mad”. Bloody nonsense. 🙂

    • third ginger says:

      Baron Samedi, your name is incredible. I am a professor who teaches a class in Ghost Stories and Legends, and I will be lecturing on Voodoo next week!

  41. spidey says:

    Might be a bit dim, but if the lyrics were about Tom how does that fit with the narrative that she dumped him

    • Moira says:

      It’s not about Tom, I think it’s just come down to people looking for any link to Tom. Apparently she met Joe when she was with Calvin, nothing happened then Tom did happen, then her and joe reconnected this Oct . This is about that first meeting, someone who’s heard the album has said on tumblr there is another song that explains this more with the timing.

      • Madly says:

        I think it was originally about Tom, but she added a line to make it seem like Joe. Tom was working when they were apart and his every move was documented. He was not at a club partying away.

        I actually think she was working on her next album during the summer of fake love and was hoping to release an album that fall, but with the backlash she was facing, her team decided to lay low for a while.

        She needs this to seem like her current “private” situation because that is the narrative about Tom. Only problem is that he is more quiet than she is, so it does not appear to be working.

      • Moira says:

        I honestly just don’t think Tom plays any part in this song , and tbf isn’t that what his fans want? I just think they were a summer fling that meant little to nothing to them both once the new glow had worn off … she’s already been with Joe a year and m the fact she packed up for London soon after points at them knowing each other before

      • Cranberry says:

        There’s just too many inconsistencies either way even when you try to place Joe in it. And I don’t take anything she says as the “definitive truth” regarding her love life. She always scripted. Her romance tales are vague, sugary safe but trying to seem innocently open. Yet she only just reveals enough to suggest a narrative that everyone can speculate about.
        I thinks it was about Tom because of the timing, but she has revised it hence the confusion. As I said below, it doesn’t matter if she was already into Joe or whatever was going on. She’s deliberate in her songs to get the most traction out of them using her relationships and feuds with well known celebs for additional interest in the them. She was writing about someone more people would recognize in her song, and that’s not Joe. But there’s a lot in those lyrics that would describe Tom better and that his many fans would take to be him.

  42. Guest says:

    “Guess I’ll just stumble on home to my cats?!”
    I just can’t…. Speechless. Great writer, Taylor.

  43. OK, I tried. I really did. But it’s not my cup of tea. OK, I kind of hated it.

  44. Bahare says:

    I love country music and pop and anything that makes me cry or dance. Why you gotta be so mean was fun and imaginative and Back to December was maudlin good. She should have built on all of that. This sounds like a song a 13 year old could write with a computer program.My standards are not lofty. I even like the backstreet boys and spice girls and my young teen years were Beatles and soul train. Once is enough of this one.

  45. Andrea says:

    I liked Ready for it and Look what you made me do…but this??? Yuck!! Boyfriend is definitely Calvin. This must have been when she met Tom right??

    • Blueee says:

      It was before she met Tom. She has met Joe earlier, the media doesn’t know about it because he’s a nobody, while meeting Joe, it was when she was taken with Calvin, because she was taken, it went no where, she then went with Tom, it fizzled, then she went with Joe again after running into him again. I don’t think “running” into him “again” was a coincidence though. A lot of her friends like Gigi, know him, therefore, it was obviously gonna happen.

      • jetlagged says:

        Wow. That’s a whole lot of theory you are stating as fact, without anything in the way of evidence. Just because a gaggle of fangirls hear a few random song lyrics and decide that A+B+C=Forever Love doesn’t magically make it reality.

      • Cranberry says:

        @jetlagged – yeah, I hate when people take song lyrics as the definitive story and then just fill in the enormous gaps with more unsubstantiated facts to complete their preferred narrative. Even if a song’s lyrics has some truth or is based on the writer’s real experiences, they still are made to work for the songs purpose to either tell a good story that fits the “hook”,-the main melodic line. Or, like in the case of TS songs, to create a lot of interest in the song by creating drama through the lyrics. Doesn’t mean it all true in the way that’s been implied.

  46. Chef Grace says:

    …it has a good beat and you can dance to it. .
    I give it a 5…
    😉

  47. Shannon says:

    I’m really not getting it? I mean, if everybody starts guessing who a song is about, is that her fault? I mean, I listened to it and, like most of her songs, it just … seems like a song. Like any random love song/breakup song, whatever. I honestly don’t make any connections. I don’t really follow her interviews or anything – is she out telling people who the songs are about? And even if she was, Eminem (who I adore) did that in waaaay more blatant lyrics. I guess I’m not seeing the BFD?

    • Julianna says:

      Yes she is.

      In the past she’s done things like leave super obvious hints in her liner notes, include references to particular sets of pap photos etc.

      Lately she’s been liking Tumblr posts from fans who are speculating about the meaning of her lyrics, a like meaning they got it right.

      At her ‘secret sessions’ she told her fans that this new song is about her new boyfriend and they should spread that online.

      She’s incredibly obvious, but unlike Eminem she does it in a roundabout way that means she can still play the victim if anyone doesn’t like being the subject of her creepy obsessive lyrics.

  48. bikki says:

    this.. isn’t.. good.. at all.
    the lyrics are moronic, not my jam that’s for sure 🙁

  49. virginfangirl says:

    I can appreciate some juvenile lyrics if they are good. But not this one.

  50. virginfangirl says:

    So you’re wondering why everyone is wondering who her song is about? Well when Taylor rights songs, unlike other song writers, she often gives us some major hints. Here’s Just ONE example of MANY: Taylor dated Harry Styles. Harry Styles was photo’d many times wearing this silver necklace that looked like a paper airplane. And while they wear dating Taylor was photo’d wearing it too. Then her song “Style” comes out. Hmmm, not too subtle, but she wasn’t done. Then her video of Style shows that same damn necklace. So why do people wonder who her songs are about? Because she likes it that way, she encourages it. She has dropped major hints in interviews, said things at awards shows, etc., & of course her songs include many hints as well. Her fans love it, claiming she simply writes about her life experiences like all song writers, but others will argue she is passive aggressive, divulging her subjects with all her clues and comments, but acting innocent in the process.

    • hilariouso says:

      or thats she is closeted and every guy is too, and they cobearding, quid pro quo. fiction in the songs, nobody gets hurt – its art, but irl, sorta

    • N. says:

      Well, none of her songs are strong enough to stand on its own, it’s all juvenile mean girl garbage.
      But once she started to spin her pr around which of her famous exes she was dissing this time, the tabloids were all over it. It worked so she kept her MO. And as long as her schtick keeps selling, she won’t change a thing. Obviously she doesn’t care that she’s almost 30 but her diss tracks still sound like a petulant teenager. As long as they sell…

  51. Cranberry says:

    I don’t understand why Kaiser is counting Tom as one of Swift’s enemies. Sorry, but he made it very clear in the GQ article and everywhere else he’s commented on her that they parted as friends and that he thinks a great deal of her. He’s not said one bad thing of her. No shade, no embedded hints on social media, nothing. He’s made his public, on record comments, and now he’s zipped his lips. I think he just wants to get far beyond this, but he’s not going to put her on the grill to save face. That just wouldn’t be gentlemanly.

    • spidey says:

      Apart from which, Cranberry, it would just feed the gutter press. A dignified silence is the best course. Then it just reflects back in her.

      • Cranberry says:

        Yup.
        Just tryin set record straight. TS fans can easily be misled to think Tom’s got it out for her. A lot of his fans don’t care for her, and NO ONE liked them as a couple especially the way it was played out for the public.
        None of it jived for either fan base I think, but Hiddles fans are more upset because it ended up being damaging for Tom. In the efforts to get more established with US audiences, he was only recognized for dating TS and not his work. The terrible pr roll out and then getting blind sided with a first order celebrity feud (that he knew nothing about – poor guy) didn’t do his emerging reputation a good turn.

  52. ArchieGoodwin says:

    Remember when she sang, her songs, and not just that weird talking through them?

    I miss that. Her country stuff was great.

    I smiled, because I’ve been there not able to even speak, he was so beautiful. I didn’t know you could make an entire song from that, though.

  53. Maria S. says:

    She has a serious case of arrested development. Her song writing hasn’t changed one bit in the last 10 years.

  54. minx says:

    Just…too much.

  55. AuroraBorealis says:

    After hearing the song, it makes me think she wrote this for Tom whilst they were still together and in love. I could be wrong but that’s immediately who I thought she wrote it about.