It was about one year ago exactly when we first heard about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. The confirmation of their couple-status happened very quickly – first there were some rumors and gossip in the British papers, then within a week, Harry had confirmed the relationship by issuing a statement to protect Meghan. Ever since then, people have wondered just when Meghan and Harry really started up. We’ve heard different versions of when they first met and when they first started dating, and I always thought the fuzzy timeline was mostly about Meg potentially having some overlap between her last relationship and the start of this thing with Harry. But maybe the fuzziness is about more than that – maybe it’s because Harry was obsessed with her and trying to meet her and date her for two years…?
When you’re a prince, you can easily arrange to meet your dream woman. In the upcoming British documentary about Prince Harry and American girlfriend Meghan Markle, When Harry Met Meghan: A Royal Romance, Royal expert and journalist Katie Nicholl says he had a crush on her Suits character, paralegal Rachel Zane, two years before they met, according to The Sun.
“He had a crush on Rachel Zane two years before he met Meghan and the reason I know is because I was having drinks with one of his friends,” Nicolls, who tweeted a link to The Sun’s story, reportedly says in the documentary. “She told me she’d been on a night out with Prince Harry. He was single at the time, so she said, ‘Harry, who’s your ideal girl?’ And he said ‘Meghan Markle from Suits.'” According to Nicoll, Harry, 33, orchestrated a meeting with Meghan, 36, in July 2016 through mutual friend Markus Anderson when the actress was in London to see friend Serena Williams play at Wimbledon.
“He asked Markus if he could set up, not a date, but an opportunity for them to meet and that happened in one of the private rooms of Soho House,” Nicoll said. “There were about seven or eight of them altogether and it was a perfect opportunity for Harry and Meghan to come together in a really informal environment and actually talk.”
“She was funny, feisty, confident and she wasn’t swayed or knocked by the fact that he was Prince Harry. She thought he was terribly cute,” Nicoll said, adding that Harry later told his circle that the actress was a “cracking girl.”
It doesn’t sound like he had a crush on her Suits character, it sounds like he watched Suits and thought Meghan was hot and he, like, checked IMDB and did some low-key creeping on her. Sexy or no? I don’t mind it, because it’s clear that he didn’t have any expectations beyond “I have a crush on her from afar and I would love to meet her.” And since he had the connections, he found a way to get an introduction. Now, do you think Harry really told one of his friends that Meg was his ideal girl? That’s the part I don’t know if I believe. Who knows though? It would be an interesting meet-cute.
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Why wouldn’t she be his ideal girl? And why would it be creepy if he had a crush on her prior to meeting? It’s a cute, but innocent story. I’m tired of tabloids trying to make drama (pretending there was an overlap with her previous relationship) between the two. They are pretty low key and I really like them together.
“I’m tired of tabloids trying to make drama (pretending there was an overlap with her previous relationship)”
Her odd timeline in the VF article hasn’t helped the gossip. Paraphrasing bits from the VF article here but – “we have been dating since July” and “We had been dating for about 6 months when news broke” errm six months from late October is actually May not July. Not saying this confirm’s that there was an overlap between her relationships but its odd that she freely offered this little titbit on her relationship but couldn’t get the maths correct hmmm…
If this really was a BP/KP sanctioned interview then she would have known for a while that she would be asked about when they started dating, she would have had plenty of time to count backwards to double check the date/month.
Her ex-boyfriend confirmed there was no overlap. I’m going to assume if he was cheated on he would stay mum and/or not lie and say it was an amicable breakup.
@ Alleycat
The ex-boyfriend hasn’t spoken to the press as far as I’m aware so who know? My point is if MM doesn’t want people to gossip about a possible overlap of her relationship she shouldn’t be giving contradictory statements in such a important interview that can fuel the fire of there possibly an being overlap in her relationships. It makes it seem like she has something to hide which is fair-game for tabloids and gossipers.
Given who knows when the interview was done vs. published? Mountain out of molehill with her counting of months. Multiple accounts say they met in July when she was in London for work.
“In early July, meanwhile, Meghan’s longtime boyfriend, amiable chef-about-town Cory Vitiello, was heard remarking that he’d broken up with his girlfriend a few weeks prior”
its also been said there was no overlap and the relationship was already on the rocks.The breakup was obviously amicable
I love Megs but there is some scrubbing going on here. Markle and Harry met in May and she and Cory split in late May. Meg and Harry texted back and forth most of the summer and began seeing one another officially in July/August. Harry went public after being spotted at the airport, according to a news source. It seems like Cory is being the bigger man and is trying to validate his ex’s timeline.
You have no way of “knowing” they were texting when, unless you are one of the two of them. She and the chef publicly broke up late May. She and Harry appear to have met through friends (attached to cousin Eugenie) in July in London.
Look let us not worry too much. When the engagement is announced we will hear their version of events and we will just have to believe what they say won’t we? I think the intrigue actually makes the love story more interesting as their meeting is not boringly straightforward.
Obviously I don’t know them personally. I’m just giving my opinion based on several articles I’ve come across. Even the favorable ones gush about how much Harry texted Meghan after they first met. I’ve never seen a single source that says they met through the Yorks or that they met anywhere but in Toronto. It’s not a huge deal as Meghan and Cory were not engaged so she was more than free to follow her heart. At leadt she made a clean break. I just don’t care if my gossip princesses aren’t squeaky clean. I don’t need them to be. I’m just ready for wedding jewelry and babies with freckles.
@EnoughAlready….I have seen a source that mentions a York sister connection between Harry and Meghan and I think it is Eugenie. The York sisters always seem to be invested in Harry’s relationships in a positive way, I think they see him as their big brother.
There are stories out there that Crown Prince Felipe of Spain had a crush on Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano from the tv news. He had his friend, one of the producers, set up a dinner party so he could meet Letizia.
@Notasugar It’s exactly what was reported in spanish gossip sites, that he was slightly infatuated with Letizia (let’s remember she was the news Broadcaster in the evenings) and that he asked a mutual Friends to set Up a dinner party so he could meet her and situación Next to her. So Harry wouldn’t be the first Prince to do this this.
@notasugarhere
The gap between the month they started dating and and the month they were ‘outed’ stays the same regardless of when the interview was done or published. So it should have been easy for her to get the basic’s correct. And multiple accounts only started saying they met/started dating in July AFTER she said they met/started dating in July in the VF interview. Before that multiple accounts were saying they met in early May in Toronto at the IG event.
@ Notasugarhere
@ Whatever
To go over to the dark side for just a second…….I also read (probably from a very, very, very irreputable source online), that there were rumours that Harry met her for the first time at a meeting which included Cory, Justin Trudeau and Harry (amongst a small handful of other people) where Cory was supposed to be presenting Catering ideas/options…..apparently, she offered to help Harry with some other unspecified activities and so they exchanged numbers, after which he began pursuing her.
Again, I don’t remember where I read this and I feel certain it’s inaccurate, but this is a gossip site, sooooo…..
You mean the multiple tumblr queen accounts who are determined to find something wrong with their relationship? The ones who were kicked off of other royal forums because of their racism and who started their own anti-Meghan Markle site under the radar? Never thought the “dark web” would be there for extremist royal watchers, but I am surprised by things every day.
If she was trying to count forward to figure out how many months it *would have been* by the time the magazine was published, easy for her to make that mistake. The breakup with the chef was public by late May/early June. It appears these two met through mutual friends in London when she was there for work, as has been put forward.
To be fair, the narrative that they met in London in July is more recent than the narrative that they met in Toronto In May through mutual friend Markus.
The only places I’ve seen the May thing being pushed is the DF or the tumblr queens.
I mean, I get him saying the “Character” would be his ideal girl but to say Meghan was his ideal girl before he even knew her? Unless he had read a lot of interviews or had been on her website or whatever, watching a show gives you little to go on about the Actor as a person. And I would think a Prince would have a bit of understanding on that issue… as I am sure a lot of people think they “know Prince Harry” when in fact they don’t really know him as a person at all.
Maybe he said “Meghan Markle from Suits” as a way to identify who she is and where she works, and had nothing to do with the show or the character.
I can see Harry being enamoured with Meghan if he followed her social media, read/watched her interviews, etc. She is an interesting woman.
I remember stories about Harry the last few years that he would meet an actress and fall instantly in “Lust” or “love” and then text her constantly. It sounded like he would almost be incessant in his texting, from what I remember. I also remember thinking that was odd, very needy behavior.
The speed at which this relationship has gone, and considering it has been trans-Atlantic and after 15 months and VERY long distance they may be engaged, gives credence to those subtle hints I thought I was reading, and the feeling I get over this. Harry seems to be very needy, in love with love, and almost desperate for a relationship. I still don’t think this will end well in the long run, but hey, it’s their mistake to make if it is a mistake.
Come on already. Let’s get this wedding going.
Right?!?! Come on Harry we need this wedding. I think they are such a cute couple.
At this point, I’m like “just elope”. Let’s get this ball rolling
@ Jillian
Lol……there must be NO elopement! How would we have pictures and third hand wedding day gossip to obsess over if they did??!!
Right? I’m so ready.
If I had the connections I would’ve set up a meet with Harry years ago sooooo….cute.
As soon as they got together I was like “yep, Harry is totally a suits fan”. The question is will they name their firstborn Harvey or Donna?
Yeah, well, he didn’t say he liked Rachel, he liked “Megan Markle from Suits”.
I believe this story. Harry has been fiercely protective of Megan from the start. You could tell how much he was really into her.
I was kidding, hence the line about naming their kids after suits characters.
LOL. How about Louis?
Harry must be the only one who watches the show, cause I had never heard of Meghan or that show before she started dating him and I don’t know anyone who has either.
+1
+100 I’d never heard of her or the show before she got together with him. This relationship really made her more famous, because there’s millions of articles about her every day now
Same here – never heard of her, or the show, till they started dating. It’s been a hard sell Daily Dose of Markle ever since.
Yep. Only ever heard of her or the show here.
I watched the show because of learning about Meghan Markle. Binged every episode since I love legal dramas. Love the show, sorry she’s leaving but can’t blame her. It’s at the ending season anyway.
@ Katydid
There are 7.446 billion people in the world. It’s 100% clear to me that since you and your immediate circle haven’t seen or heard of Suits, none of the remaining 7,445,999,999,000** people would have either.
** : Assuming you have a thousand people in your close circle and were tenacious enough to send them all a short questionnaire, confirming that they’ve never heard of a show called suits.
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And yet it has been on for seven seasons, so obviously there are plenty of people out there watching it.
Disclaimer: I do like Meghan and I am impatiently waiting for an engagement announcement
However…
This story seems improbable to me and more like they needed a story. And more often than not these tabloids get it wrong. It’s okay if its not true! He still loves her regardless.
It seems like anytime there is a negative/neutral article on her people say it’s not to be believed. And any time the us a glowing article on her people think it must be true. There’s a LOT of confirmation bias on here regarding her.
It also seems like people who don’t who don’t adore her are called out and compared to crazy tumblr people. It’s a little OTT, imo.
@ Llamas
I’m a huge fan of hers as well and I have to disagree with you a little bit.
I don’t think people really get called out for not liking her as such……I think the problem tends to be when they present non-factual evidence as facts and then base their low opinion of her in that……that’s usually what tends to get some of us going…..some examples:
* She only started getting involved in charity work after meeting Harry
* She used her husband to get the suits role, then dumped him
* She’s abandoned her dogs
* She wouldn’t be attracted to Harry if her weren’t a Prince
And on and on and on…….
Many times, these talking points closely mirror the points used by the Tumblr queens and so they get called out for that too.
@BEllagio, it is very condescending, the way people are called or compared to tumblr queens. Again, like I said yesterday, the way Kate and Meghan are treated here couldn’t be more different, and I don’t get it. Yes, Kate is lazy, but she isn’t the Spawn of Satan. And MEghan has done nothing to show that she will be an addition to the BRF. Has she done any charity since she met Harry?? I haven’t seen any stories but I may have missed them.
And I think the first three points you make are ridiculous and the only one I would care about is if she abandoned her rescue dogs!! But I do think the 4th is absolutely true. If Harry was a plumber, she wouldn’t look at him. But if Meghan was a maid, Harry wouldn’t have looked at her, either. So fair play.
@Maren Kate has been on the royal scene for 10+ years compared to Meghan who is new so obviously they are going to be treated differently.
“If Harry was a plumber, she wouldn’t look at him. But if Meghan was a maid, Harry wouldn’t have looked at her, either. So fair play.”
Maren, I love this point. Thank you for pointing out a tiresome double standard.
Yep. I’ve watched it from day one, I love legal dramas set in law firms especially. The guy playing Harvey drew me in….saw other work of his so I checked it out.
Interesting, or not maybe, for years the fans discussing had a love/hate thing for Rachel (Markle’s character)…. seemed many wanted her gone and hated her storyline. Anyway, I’ve enjoyed the show, it’s good.
A brit that watches it.So do a lot of my friends but we are all big TV buffs
I watched it starting around Season 3 or 4 because it was on Netflix.
I’ll be honest it was a good concept to start, but the further it drug on the less and less I cared about Mike’s “secret.” It became a lame storyline.
Now that Gina (and now Meghan) are gone, I’m not sure how interesting it will continue to be. The only character left that I care about is Donna.
Same. I actually found it on amazon prime about 3 years ago…………..and they just kept dragging on the “Mike didn’t go to Harvard/Yale” storyline and I stopped watching because it became soooo boring. But the concept was good and I like the relationships and characters……..I’ll eventually go back to it because of the characters.
@Millenial @Virgilia
I used to watch the show too. It’s a very clever and snazzy show. Anyone that hasn’t seen it should start from the Pilot. What clinched me was the suit case full of pot that falls open in front of Harvey during Mike’s job interview. That was a surprise and a good laugh. I liked the characters too. Mike and Harvey’s relationship is cute and funny, and Donna is great.
I stopped watching after season 3 or thereabouts cause, like you, I got bored. After all it’s a formulaic, situational dramady. Sometimes I catch up with it on OnDemand, but I’m not committed to it.
I never watched it for Rachel’s character, but she has a good, relatable storyline. She has great fashion style, and she’s interesting to look at which enhances the show’s snazzy, glamorous appeal.
I think Harry was aware of her before July because they have some Canadian friends in common. I believe Meghan’s been living there filming the show for five or six years now. Her best friend up there is either the daughter of a former Prime Minister, or she’s married to his son. Plus she manages social events which is how MM met her. So charming Meghan, with her hit, US/Canada show, would have been well known to people that Harry would associate with in Canada.
@ Cranberry
Am I the only one who’s intrigued by the relationship between Harvey and Jessica?
I always get the impression that maybe they used to be sex buddies or something…….the way he turns up at his apartment and randomly finds her there in various states of home-making……barefoot and cooking, bare feet up on his couch, drinking wine, etc.
And then the little random comments he makes to her too……”unless you’re planning on cooking me breakfast in the morning, I’d say we’re done….”
And then the time Donna’s flirting furiously with him and he ignores her and tells Jessica how beautiful she looks, on her way to a date.
Maybe it’s just me that thinks that, with my tiny, dirty little mind. 😄😄
Yeah, I don’t believe for a second that he had any idea what Suits was before he met her.
I knew who she was. I watch the show and I had a crush on her, too. Too bad I’m married, not a prince and a woman :p
I had never heard of Suits but my children had. I think its the kind of series for younger people. I can’t stand legal dramas but I bought the DVDs because of Meghan and its not too bad but I hope the next series I buy has subtitles because they al speak too quickly.
Lol I’m over 50 now but was in 40s when it began. It’s not a kids show. That was funny tho
@Carrie I did not say it was a CHILDREN’S show, I said my children watch it. You may not understand that even when children are in their 20s we still call them children, what else would I call them??
I looked up the Nielsen ratings since Netflix doesn’t release any ratings for viewership. Only .05% of the USA population watches the show. So you aren’t alone. After Harry and Meghan’s relationship broke I tried to watch Suits. I couldn’t make it through one episode. Totally, boring. Uninspired writing. Wooden acting.
@Helen Smith, that’s interesting — but I think given how different tv-watching is now compared to how it used to be, we would need more context to understand how Suits compares to other popular shows.
I still have cable, but I have lots of friends who don’t, and they watch everything online. And even though I have cable, most of my favorite shows are Netflix or Hulu or Amazon originals anyway. I have no idea how ratings are gathered to take into account everyone streaming a show, watching it on the channel’s app, iTunes, etc.
I don’t really believe this story despite not having any evidence whatsoever to prove otherwise. My gut feeling is that the BRF is feeding the public a narrative they find acceptable. The real story will be kept private. Not that I care. I am here just for the entertainment and community.
This is a great story, and I can’t help but remember long ago when Brit boys called girls “Birds” which I remember wistfully and fondly. (The Beatles made that known.) “Cracking Girl.” Whatever!
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So Harry watched/watches Suits? Haha I don’t know if I buy that, but whatever.
It was probably a rec from the Queen
Yeah, she probably said “Harry, you should wear more suits,” and he must have heard it as “watch Suits”. Hahahah
All I know is that I can’t wait to see everyone dressing up as married!Harry and Meg on the next Halloween.
We are meant to believe that a British Prince watched an American cable tv series? Yeah right. If she was on Game of Thrones I would believe the story…suits not so much.
Really. Suits isn’t even that popular in the States. They’re trying too hard to sell this great love story.
Why not? Harry is a Prince, but he’s also a person. Maybe he likes legal dramas, and found suits on accident. My brother-in-law, who lives in the UK introduced me to suits when he came to visit Toronto years ago. He was so excited to visit the set.
People like what they like, even Royals.
Nothing unusual here. For a lot of guys in his age range, Meghan’s character in Suits is #girlfriend goals. Plus they think she’s hot.
@Peeking In: exactly! And @Beammeupscottie: part of the appeal of this show (for me, as a woman) is the eye candy! Harvey and Mike are both sooooo handsome, and I always loved the women’s wardrobes on the show. The sets are also gorgeous. It isn’t necessarily the best-written series out there, but there are other things about it that make people watch. My husband thought Meghan’s character was so hot way before she was in the headlines for meeting Harry.
(Although I will concede that I don’t think either one of us knew her real name off the tops of our heads, even as fans of the show, until after the Harry relationship happened and she started being the subject of a million articles. I can’t name all of the other cast members either, to be fair.)
I don’t believe this story, but it’s not became I don’t think anyone in the BRF would never watch “an American cable series” or however it was worded a few comments up. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to hear that William, Kate and Harry all watched, for example, “Mad Men” or “House of Cards.”
Suits does air here in Britain. One of my friends is a massive fan. It’s not a high profile show here but it’s not impossible for Harry to be a viewer.
I always struggle to understand the logic people employ to explain things to themselves……there are literally thousands and thousands of tv shows, available at any one point in time. It’s unreasonable that you’ll be aware of all of them, especially the smaller, more niche shows. It doesn’t mean those shows don’t have their own audience (outside of yourself and your circle of friends/family).
In some cases, that audience might even include a well travelled, worldly British Prince, who’s constantly exposed to people and things from all walks of life that you might not have exposure to.
I tend to agree with you. I commented upstream at post #5 about my theory. Here it is again:
Harry was aware of her before July because they have some Canadian friends in common. I believe Meghan’s been living there filming the show for five or six years now. Her best friend up there is either the daughter of a former Prime Minister, or she’s married to his son. Plus she manages social events which is how MM met her. So charming Meghan, with her hit, US/Canada show, would have been well known to people that Harry would associate with in Canada.
Harry and MM could have been introduced first and then he watched the show to check out her work. Or he could have been made aware of her from a common friend and then checked out the show after just learning of it. Hard to know the exact sequence of events and pace of interest.
@Cranberry, ITA. He could have been flipping through the channels and thought Meghan was beautiful or whatever. Half the reason I started watching the show was to ogle Harvey and Mike 🙂
@Bellagio DuPont: that line of thinking is such a pet peeve of mine, not just about this but about anything in pop culture in general. “I’VE never heard of the show/movie/restaurant/whatever so no one else must have, either.” 🙄 I personally don’t watch Game of Thrones or Doctor Who (or Breaking Bad back in the day) but that means nothing!
Cute, if this is true. I wonder if Harry used to watch her interviews on Youtube.
I can believe this story. Isn’t this how a lot of athletes meet their celebrity wives?
Yeah, Dwayne wade supposedly had a crush on Gabrielle Union when he was in high School.
I believe the source for this story is misha nonoo.
Who is Misha Noono?
(I realize I could google but that wouldn’t necessarily explain why you think this person would be a source here.)
Apparently, Harry hangs out at Will and Kate’s apartment where he raids their fridge and plays with the kids, you know, they stream their favorite shows. If you have trouble believing that Harry would find Suits on his own, Kate might have been a fan which would expose him to this great show. The characters are smart, complicated, well-dressed and mostly great-looking. I’ve always been more of a Donna fan. The fact that Harry is smitten with Megen shows that he has matured. I like to think that his warm relationship with Michele Obama may have had some influence. Megen is a Michele/Kate combo.
Apparently, Harry hangs out at Will and Kate’s apartment where he raids their fridge and plays with the kids, you know, they stream their favorite shows. If you have trouble believing that Harry would find Suits on his own, Kate might have been a fan which would expose him to this great show. The characters are smart, complicated, well-dressed and mostly great-looking. I’ve always been more of a Donna fan. The fact that Harry is smitten with Meghan shows that he has matured. I like to think that his warm relationship with Michele Obama may have had some influence. Meghan is a Michele/Kate combo.
I had the connections to meet a celeb crush in a casual non-creepy way I’d totally do it.
They apparently met in 2016 when Harry was in Toronto for an IG planning meeting. Markus Anderson a wealthy Toronto native and good friend of both Harry and Meghan, apparently thought they would get along and introduced them. Harry began texting Markle quite consistently and the rest is history. They also have another mutual friend, Misha Noncon, a fashion designer and socialite. Noncon runs in posh circles and is the ex-wife of Alex Gilkes, a former Etonian and long-time pal of Harry’s. Meghan and Misha became friends after being seated at the same table at a Miami charity luncheon. I will say this – Meghan and Harry met in May and Meghan and her boyfriend split up in May. Sources seem conflicted about when Meghan and Harry began dating with some saying June and some saying August. I can see how it looks shady but at the end of the day if Meghan had been fulfilled in her relationship with Vittorio she would have remained in it. Everyone has the right to be happy.
A quick google check showed Harry was in Toronto May 1-3rd and went to Orlando for invictus while Meghan was in Mexico and then NYC.
This. She was physically out of town (arboad) when he visited Toronto to launch IG in May.
Sam
The DM has the Megan/Harry/Markus meeting taking place in early July. Everything else says May at SoHo House.
She wasn’t in either Toronto or London in May, so they couldn’t have meet at either SoHo house in May. They were not in the same geographical place at the same time.
Not every account online agrees and we can dispute timelines all day. Not worth it. But if they put out an official “meet” story they shouldn’t be surprised if people find it a bit wonky. We scrutinize everything here and Harry and Markle aren’t exempt just because they’re well liked.
Every other site thought that because Meghan lives in Toronto and Harry was in Toronto for Invictus therefore,they definitely met in Toronto.However,Harry only stayed for 2 days and Meghan wasn’t even in Toronto around that time based on her posts so i dont think they met in May.
In the September 5 issue of Vanity Fair Meghan states: “We were very quietly dating for about six months before it became news” When they became news is up for debate but she was first covered here on October 31 and Harry’s infamous press plea was November 7.
In early January Meghan’s brother disclosed that their father had met Harry in Toronto six months prior and that he liked him. This brother isn’t one of the poisonous siblings and didn’t know he was saying something interesting.
The October 1 issue of People magazine said Megan and Harry had been together for three months.
In June Megan was in the royal enclosure for Wimbledon.
My thing is this: why rewrite the narrative? Why should she whitewash her relationship choices? According to Suits and pro-Markle fan sites she spent Valentine’s Day in 2016 alone and rumors swirled that her chef boyfriend was having flings. According to her Instagram they went on vacation together in Mexico at the end of April through May 2 but again, it was rumored that things were on the rocks and they were trying to figure out who would get their rescue dogs. Different articles have asserted that both Meghan and Cory met Harry at Soho House after being invited by mutual friend Markus. Supposedly Cory spoke to Harry about possible catering collaborations for upcoming IG events. Harry left Toronto May 7 to meet Michelle Obama and Jill Biden to open the Paralympic Games in Orlando.
It’s unclear when they met but I don’t think for one second that it was July or August.
@enoughalready Harry arrived at Florida airport May 4th.its on the royal forum.DM had an article on it.
Meghan wasn’t in Toronto when he was in May.She was at NYC,Toronto,Greece most of June. She was only in London ending of June. All these from her insta. Meghan’s brother also admitted he hasn’t had any contact with Meghan for years and since you readily believe him,Samantha denied it and said the father hasn’t met Harry and so did a source according to Dm: ”Thomas Jnr erroneously claimed their father had flown to meet the prince but a source said: ‘Thats rubbish.Tom senior hasn’t met Harry”.Again,you can choose to believe whatever
I LOVE this story and hope its true. A part of me is very glad and gleeful for the world to see that an attractive, desirable man can see a black woman can be seen as desirable, pursued, protected and cherished. If this story were true that only helps further that. Good example of something that happens all over the world Harry! For some reason, in the US that seems to be viewed as a fable.
Really mixed relationships happen all the time now….nothing new or special. In the UK, relationships between black women and white men have always existed but are now, after years of avoiding each other, steadily on the rise.
@PrincessK Agreed. I’m from the Caribbean so I know what’s up. My grandparents were WM + BW and interracial relationships are commonplace. However, as a black, woman who has now spent a cumulative decade+ of my post-formative years living and working in the US it’s devastating the message that is sent to black women about themselves here that they are undesirable and less than. Look at the way we’re portrayed in the media. You don’t see anyone but black men finding us attractive and we’re not leads in mainstream romances. In terms of relationships, black women are the most overlooked as a result. Black men engage in relationships with all ethnicities and people tend to say “oh interracial relationships are so common” until you point out, “sure, for everyone BUT black women”. Then they star to pay attention and notice that a black woman with a non-black man is a rather rare pairing.
However, my point is just that there is a quiet, unspoken history in this country of black women being abused and used and abandoned by everyone for what they can get from them. At this point everyone is considered a somewhat reasonable, viable, desirable and equal option for a mate but black women. They’re what’s leftover. In comparison to other women they’re seen as not as desirable for anything serious or long-term. I say this from experience of actually being told this when it comes time to “determine the relationship” on multiple occasions. “Man I really like you, you’re pretty we have fun but….I don’t really see myself with a black woman.” I’d never heard such foolishness before moving to this country and people don’t really talk about this. 😞. And even if they don’t use these words, black men are doing it too now some intentionally and some by reason of wider options, which doesn’t help.
@KC: reading your post made me so sad. I’m so sorry that’s how it is, that is awful 😞
Completely agree with your initial comments on Meghan, though. It is ridiculous and gross that our society is like this, but since it is, it is nice to see such a high-profile relationship featuring a woman like Meghan. I also like the fact that she’s older and that doesn’t seem to bother Harry, either. It seems like men still (with some notable exceptions) end up with younger, less accomplished women, for the most part.
I really somehow doubt this. Probably started like most relationships: hot drunken hook up.
He needs a better tv lineup
Yes.