Earlier, we discussed Anthony Rapp and the accusation he’s making against Kevin Spacey. Rapp told his story to Buzzfeed, which makes sense because I saw Buzzfeed journalists creeping on tweets about Spacey weeks ago, so it was clear that Buzzfeed already knew parts of what will likely be a Weinstein-level Spacey story, and that Buzzfeed has been working on this for a while. It also wouldn’t surprise me if Rapp’s story was just Part 1 in a series of Buzzfeed exposés about pedophile predators in Hollywood.
In the meantime, Kevin Spacey is finding no comfort from the LGBTQ community. Spacey addressed Rapp’s accusations in a statement posted to Twitter:
— Kevin Spacey (@KevinSpacey) October 30, 2017
Spacey has finally “come out,” which would have been a notable story if he wasn’t coming out as a deflection for the accusation of preying on a 14-year-old boy. Condemnation for Spacey has come swiftly from prominent LGBTQ people. Wanda Sykes tweeted: “No no no no no! You do not get to ‘choose’ to hide under the rainbow! Kick rocks!” Rose McGowan tweeted: “Bye bye, Spacey goodbye, it’s your turn to cry, that’s why we’ve gotta say goodbye.” Billy Eichner tweeted: “Kevin Spacey has just invented something that has never existed before: a bad time to come out. Imagine the Astros walking off the field only to find out Kevin Spacey is gay. The shock of it all. But honestly I hesitate to make jokes because the Spacey statement is truly disgusting, irresponsible and dangerous. Ok goodnight!”
Here’s Dan Savage’s take:
Nope to Kevin Spacey's statement. Nope. There's no amount of drunk or closeted that excuses or explains away assaulting a 14-year-old child.
— Dan Savage (@fakedansavage) October 30, 2017
Ira Madison at the Daily Beast wrote a great piece about how Spacey is basically doing the far-right’s work for them by equating homosexuality with predatory pedophilia. If there’s one silver lining here, it’s that everyone saw right through him and his bullsh-t statement, I guess.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
No one is here for his stupid statement except the media that ran the headlines about it instead of the accusations.
Exactly, easy to see where the priorities are and it somehow never quite manages to be with the victims.
amazing how that happens right?
Well, let’s face it: it’s not news when the accusations happen anymore, it’s news when someone actually apologizes.
Except the news headlines were that he came out.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised actually – most media reports I’ve read haven’t fallen for his PR bullshit at all. It helped that social media piled on immediately. I’ve actually seen a few outlets change their headlines after being criticised.
Spacey is scum. Cynical, narcissistic, predatory scum.
The problem is the same we had during the election…they need to STOP with these headlines from the jump. They can’t honestly all be this stupid
I remember back in the day hearing that Colin Farrel had to be Kevin Spacey’s bitch when he was starting out in hollywood.
That he could even think this would fly says it all, really.
These people have been in an entitlement bubble for so long that they really do not see the bursting of it AT ALL.
Exactly. Nobody could doubt he is a highly intelligent and perceptive man. Imagine the levels of entitlement it must take to not know when the game is up, because the game in question is the one you yourself are playing.
Who is writing this statement for Kevin Spacey? Who thought this was a good idea?
The person who got the international media to talk about his gayness instead of the assault. That person earned their money alright.
“sad” (as Trump would say)
Yeah really. The last thing the LGBTQIA community needs is to be associated with pederasty. The haters like to float that type of child molesting myth about them. And now he comes running to this community for shelter now that he’s in hot water? After all those years of refusing to own it or support this community? No, sir. Goodnight and good luck.
And, let me say it doesn’t matter how drunk he was. As the adult host who invited a child to his party, it was his obligation to remain sober enough to safely chaperone the kid. Of course, we know that was never his intent.
Honestly, it was really clever. I’ve NEVER seen a pivot like this and I’m super proud of folks not falling for it. He’s out here banking on homophobia or sympathy shielding him from accusations of being a child predator and that’s fascinating and a really f-cking cynical and calculated move.
As for his being too drunk to know, unshaven Rapp, as 46 year old man, has a baby face. I can’t imagine how young 14 year old Rapp must’ve looked.
Yea I mean it’s not that hard to deduce that being gay doesn’t mean being a p3do. Kevin Spacey isn’t into guys, Kevin Spacey is a sexual predator into “barely legal” or not legal at all teens. It’s gross AF.
Still, I go up in the air with Dan Savage being a “leader”, yea good for him calling it out. But he’s said some questionable things in the past. He’s stated he doesn’t think bi people exist which really rubs me the wrong way. Basing it 100% on his own experience as using bisexual as a gateway to coming out fully. It’s like yea that is some gay people’s experience but not everyone’s.
Savage is problematic AF sometimes, but I’m glad he’s issued a statement.
Considering his belief in the ‘helpful gardener’ trope, I’m somewhat surprised.
I have a feeling alot of hollywood people are realizing the tides are turning and want to be on the “right” side so to speak. Overall I do think it’s a good thing that we have numerous amounts of people speaking out when only last year Casey Affleck was being praised left and right.
I might be optimistic but it just seems different this time. Too many people are coming forward. Too many people are being called out.
“Considering his belief in the ‘helpful gardener’ trope”
What is the helpful gardener trope?
He’s ok with older younger relationships as long as the older one is a helpful gardener, and leaves the younger ‘garden’ in better shape.
I’ve seen it mentioned a few times, but it may just be him that uses that exact analogy.
Thanks.
It’s the campsite rule, not helpful gardener – you leave a campsite in as good as or better shape than when you found it. And also it’s certainly not about underage people, just people with a significant age gap!
Savage took back his statements about bisexuality, he has spoken at length about it.
I hate Savage soooo much after his vitriolic crusade to blame black people for Prop 8 passing in California. Not that Mormons that spent millions to support it. Not the 80% of white folks in the state that wanted it but the 7% of Black people that were there. F-ck that guy…FOREVER!
+1 Reef! He’s emblematic of the sickening current of racism in the gay community that is a seriously underaddessed issue.
Nevermind. Wrong topic, please delete.
F*ck you Kevin Spacey. If you thought the LGBT community was going to wrap you in a rainbow flag and give you a group hug you must be f*cking delusional. Sexual assault disproportionately impacts gay and transgender people and they are not going to forgive, excuse, or otherwise justify your predatory behavior. Not now, not ever.
this, this, this. Soooo much.
I still love him as an actor. So, what now? Can’t I admire and enjoy his work because of his misconduct almost three decades ago?
Trying to rape a CHILD is NOT “misconduct”.
I love Woody Allen movies but I have not seen one in years because I cannot support a child rapist. No matter how great the movie is, I know I won’t be able to enjoy it.
same here. Although I can’t even say that I love his movies anymore. Everything associated with him feels irreparably tainted.
It’s a valid comparison, although to me Woody Allen’s films embody his intense misogyny so his art and persona are intertwined. Kevin Spacey has always been very private. I was about to say he plays monsters, killers but not sexual predators…and then I remembered American Beauty. Right. Carry on.
Ehhh, the Allen comparison is actually not a valid one, or won’t be for long. Allen has one accusation 30 years ago and not a whisper since. This is not and will not be the only accusation against Spacey. Not even close. Not by a long shot. It is a very ugly story. As to whether you still enjoy his work? Your call. Art separate from artist? Hell Mia Farrow calls Roman Polanski, a dear friend who is important to the world. It’s all complicated. Maybe try not to pay for it?
Even if Woody Allen had never been accused of anything ever, his films depict women in condescending and stereotypical portrayals, and great admiration for men who bypass the complexities of adult relationships by pursuing ingenues. His films are worthy of boycotts on that point alone.
Kevin Spacey’s films don’t glorify pedophilia (except the one that does), so deciding to boycott K.S. may require some deeper analysis of whether good films are soured by disgusting actors.
Misconduct? By that I think you mean, raping a child? That doesn’t bother you because he’s good on House of Cards?
Get Real! The conduct has been ongoing. You’re on a gossip site; surely you’ve seen the rumors etc. through the years?
Never. Honestly, this is the first time. I’ve only heard that he’s gay, but I never really care about his personal life. From gossip POV he’s not as interesting as clooney or affleck for instance. I keep following his work all these years and he’s been my favorite actor since the 90s. I remember American Beauty was one of the first movies I watched at the theater. I don’t know how am I suppose to feel about this news.
If you believe his statement implying that this was a one time drunken mistake, then I suppose. But this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Kevin’s chicken Hawking.
THANK YOU!!!! I wasn’t sure if I could say he was a chickenhawk – but that is how I have ALWAYS heard in the industry when he was mentioned!
Who said you couldn’t? Everyone makes their own judgements on these things and mostly we work on a sliding scale that isn’t always consistent. Other people having an opinion isn’t an attack on you and your opinions.
Um… yes? Is that a rhetorical question? In the alternative, you need to precede every bit of praise you give to their performance with: “It’s too bad he tried to f–k a child, but…”
I think that’s up to you. Nobody can or should tell you.
I don’t know that I’ll ever be able to watch the Cosby Show again. I still like Michael Jackson’s music. Harvey Weinstein was just involved with too many things to hate them all, probably, and he was a distributor not a creator. Still that man makes my skin crawl. I hate Woody Allen, but I like Midnight in Paris. I hate that I like Midnight in Paris. I won’t see another of his films. I have no interest in supporting anything Roman Polanksi does. Lost is one of my favorite tv shows, but I don’t like Matthew Fox. Right now I think I can still like a Kevin Spacey show. If more revelations come out, which I fear they will, I don’t know. And I don’t think I’ll ever like Kevin Spacey himself again.
Who says it hasn’t continued?
Have you not heard all the incidents involving Kevin during the course of these 30yrs?
This particular incident was 30yrs ago, BUT Kevin has been actively sexually harrassing or young men (cough!) On movie sets, theatre sets, random strangers – laughably claiming to be mugged in a London park.
This isn’t a one off and i hope more people come out to support Anthony.
OMG. I remember the cruising, oops, mugging incident!
Oh yeah, that was such a sketchy lie even at the time it was shady. I heard stories of violence and depraved behavior. At the time I thought it was possibly embellishment to add something extra sordid to the rumors, but I don’t believe that anymore.
I believe my celebitches, I’ve been oblivious all these years to Spacey predator stories. Anyone have a link or recommendation to sites with these stories?
Here you go: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/apr/20/film.filmnews
In response, feeble-minded is the first word that comes to mind regarding your questions. You do know that you have choices, that you can move on to the next celeb? There are a shit-ton of other actors out there one could obsess over instead of giving their devoted attention to this smug, overrated actor who displayed a proclivity for under-age boys but won’t accept responsibility for his own behavior.
I’m not obsessed about him. I don’t agree with your statement that he’s overrated. He’s in fact one of the best, perhaps on a par with Daniel Day-Lewis. I know nothing about acting or film production, but I really really enjoy Kevin Spacey more than any other acclaimed actors. If it’s true that it’s not one-off incident, then I’ll be very devastated.
Oh dear. Ira- prepare yourself for the worst then because this isn’t a one off. Far from it.
Ira, people are going to be really rude to you, but shouldn’t be. You are asking an honest question. If Spacey was drunk, an alcoholic, this happened once, 30 years ago, he didn’t rape the young man although laying on him was physical assault, what price should he pay now? I don’t know that there will be any criminal penalty, but if he has changed and grown and gotten sober and understood that this was a horrible, criminal thing he did, is there scorn forever?
Having said this, from what others are saying here, this wasn’t a one time thing and more will come out. If that is true, Spacey needs to go to the same place as WEinstein.
@ira and Maren
Because it happening to one child isn’t enough, thier need to be a history?? If he sexually assaulted your child would be saying will he only sexually assaulted my child and he changed. Yes one victim of sexual assault is one too much.
@Maren
Did you read his statement and how be tried to use his coming out as a way to down play what he did. He clearly has not realize anything and has no sympathy for his VICTIMS.
@Rose, If you read my post, I said IF, IF, IF. I don’t think he did at all – and I do hope that 30 years later, I would forgive someone for this, IF they were sincerely sorry. Which he doesn’t seem as though he is.
I hope you are angry at Brad Pitt, too. Wasn’t he 27 and dating a high schooler who was 17? That ok?
@Marlen
Why is there even a “IF”? He told us who he was and showed us his lack of remorse in his first statement, just like Harvey Weinstein. Did you give Harvey the benefit of the doubt before all of these ladies came out. All of the predator who have been outed as of late have had rumors attached to them for years just like Spacey and you still need more to speak out to but him with Weinstein.
I don’t know why your bring up BP to me, but yes I think his relationship with Lewis was very inappropriate. Just like I think Leo relationship with his high school girlfriend, Celine Dion and husband, RKelly and Aaliyah relationships were all extremely inappropriate.
I’m not sure what you mean by “I don’t think he did at all” are you referring my statement about him using his coming out as a way to down play what he did. I surly hope not if that is the case.
If you think this was a one-off event that happened once in 30 years, you’re going to get a nasty surprise.
Stories of Spacey’s predatory behaviour have been doing the rounds for years in the UK and US.
I doubt as many victims as Weinstein will come forward because his sexuality adds an extra level of complication – gay victims may not want to out themselves, straight victims may not want to be assumed gay – but some certainly will.
Really? Trying to assault a child is misconduct?
Maybe you should take a hard look at what this says about you
Spacey’s a predator and he knows it. So do many, many MANY others. He really thinks he can PR his way out of this one!
sorry posted to wrong comment.
Agreed. I was always under the impression that Crazy Eyes was a known lunatic. He plays too much of a convincing predator not to be one in real life.
I think that’s a stretch. Being able to play bad doesn’t mean you are, just as being able to play good doesn’t mean you are that either.
I love Dan Savage.
I think Kevin is giving these right wing nut jobs ammunition to try to tie a Pedophile to the LBGQT community. Let’s be absolutely clear, there is no tie between being a Pedophile and being gay. So not only is Kevin saying that he probably did come on to this little boy (at the time.) It’s because he’s gay. That’s not cool and he’s totally wrong. Also, there isn’t any need for reflection on Kevin’s part. Don’t come on, assault, touch or speak to children inappropriately.
Dan Savage is a racist and misogynistic. As well as denying Bisexuals truly exist. He’s trash himself.
The thing is guy male predators are the same as straight male predators. They are attracted to youth and experience. It’s a male thing not a gay thing. But since society values male children over female children (instead of equally) there is more freakout about predators that are male. Both should be equally condemned but the right wing suffers from too much homophobia.
Yep. A disgusting, cheap, selfish, opportunistic move on his part. Wanda Sykes’ response was perfect. He does not get to hide under the rainbow.
There will be and should be many more responses like these. Kaiser is right. Spacey is merely supplying talking points for homophobes. And many of those people are buddies of the president and vice president.
Gay or Pedophile?
– Invited one child to a party of adults.
– Got drunk when he was the only adult responsible for a child attending his adult party.
– Picked up a child and brought him to bedroom and lay down atop child.
– Tried to convince child to stay despite child wanting to leave.
– 24 year old gay man has a party of show business friends and somehow can’t find anyone to f–k except a child that happened to be invited to the party… because there’s a serious shortage of consenting adult gay men in that industry.
I call BS on the “drunk and gay” thing.
Wow. What a dumb sh!t. Now you come out? You touched a CHILD inappropriately and don’t even remember! Who knows how many other times this has happened. Being touched like that at that age is terrifying. Screw you Spacey.
Not trying to threadjack, but does anyone else feel like this is a witch hunt? I agree let’s throw out all the sexual predators in Hollywood and we definitely need to support those who went through the abuse and pain. It’s just when I read Rose’s tweet I could imagine her cackling with glee about it.
Close the door on your way out.
Hahaha so blunt and so right. Byeee!
If you finally vomit from having swallowed too much toxic crap, it’s not a witch hunt. It’s real, it’s a fight for survival, and it’s a purge.
Witch hunt? Hardly. More a case of plenty of chickens coming home to roost. Good.
Well put.
Rose has earned the right to cackle and glee from the mountain top. #Rosearmy
smh, really?
I really wish people would stop misusing the term “witch hunt” when referring to women calling out abuse and harassment and misogyny. Do they even know what the phrase means? Witch hunts were about POWERFUL MEN PREYING ON INNOCENT WOMEN. Now suddenly it’s shorthand to portray women as evil, vindictive harpies. WTF? Talk about a patriarchal rewrite of history and language …
So, no it’s not a “witch hunt.” Weinstein is scum. Spacey is scum. The next person to go down will be scum too. These are not innocent people being preyed upon.
Agreed. Notice how in the past few weeks we’ve had both Woody Allen and Donald Trump use that expression in the same way.
No, but I think his team is trying to change the conversation to muddy the waters on well known gossip blogs.
Rose is cackling with glee as are the rest of us in the coven.
The problem is I just worry no one is talking enough about bringing substantial change so this doesn’t happen in the future. Maybe we need a law pass but we need to really discuss how to stop this from ever happening. I’m not even sure how it’s so enmeshed into the system but we need major change. I hope these predators also face consequences
Laws against assault and harassment already exist. These incidents have not previously been reported to law enforcement because the victims want to work in the industry and the perpetrators have power. What’s needed is a culture change where other people in power no longer turn a blind eye. I’m hopeful that is beginning to happen now, but there’s an awfully long way to go.
Not a witch hunt, but a lifting of the rocks in Hollywood to expose the filthy criminal behavior that was crawling around under them.
Rumors have circulated for years on these aggressive predators. This is simply bringing allegations of extremely bad behavior to a broader audience.
To clarify the “gay or pedophile” thing:
If a 24 year old heterosexual man had invited a 14 year old to his party and tried to have sex with her at the end when he was drunk, would you accept “I am a heterosexual man.” as an explanation for that behavior, or would you be insulted on behalf of heterosexual men?
He didn’t do it because he was drunk and gay. Many drunk gay men manage to get through parties without sexually assaulting children.
I know it’s not his mother’s fault, it’s Kevin’s, but I wish these kids in these industries had more supervision. There are too many stories like this. Yeah your kid is super mature and talented and getting paid in grown up dollars, but they’re still a kid, and if the parent isn’t going to protect them from predators, who will?
As the great Ira Madison would say on Twitter, Keep it.
1.) I f-ing love Billy Eichner. 2.) My response was going to be the exact same as Sykes’. No no no no no! GD it, Kevin Spacey! No one cares that you’re gay, nor have they ever. Everyone hates you because you’re a boorish pig and you assaulted a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD.
I’ve loved him since his soap opera days.
I’ve heard about Spacey’s proclivity for young boys for years. I’m glad all of this is coming out. BRING THEM DOWN!!!
I’ve genuinely lost count of the number of male actors/directors etc who have told me first hand stories of Spacey assaulting or harassing them. None of them were underage at the time, but we all knew he was an unrepentant sexual predator.
I really hope we don’t see a situation where someone comes out and says something and people respond with “well, you weren’t under age ..” as though harassment when it comes to gay adults being perpetrators isn’t a big deal, only pedophilia is.
I knew at some point someone I’ve always enjoyed watching would feel the sexual fallout heat (how would I truly feel)? I’m going to enjoy this. In lieu of liking him on the screen, his hubris has been overbearing through the years as well as his smarminess. But dammit I really like House of Cards. Here’s the thing though, I’m rooting for his character to fail. I’ll still have a hard time now because the shithead is a bona-fide criminal.
Netflix just pulled the show and won’t produce beyond this year. So he may go down as a way for Netflix to make a statement
I’m probably a bit naive but I don’t get why this should negatively affect the LGBQT community. Straight people can be pedophiles, gay people can be pedophiles. Many straight people are not pedophilesso wouldn’t logic follow that all gay people are not pedophiles? I know Spacey dragged his Johnny-come-out-lately sexuality into this. But anyone can see this is about pedophilia/harassment not straight vs LGBQT, right?
It’s just more fuel to the fire of the old argument that homosexuality = pedophilia. He is deflecting the charges by trying to make it sound like it’s a normal thing for a gay person to do when he’s drunk. It’s not. Sadly, there are a lot of people out there looking for ammunition like this to help them paint the LGBTQI community as deviants.
Because this country is in an awareness crises. If shit isn’t spelled out, properly punctuated, diciphered and read between the lines out loud for the masses, the knee-jerking stupidity is ubiquitous.
Perfect comment is perfect.
No. The religious far right can’t. They’ve been equating homosexuality with paedophilia (and unrestrained promiscuity) for years.
It’s why gay and lesbian teachers in some areas are at serious risk of being fired and blacklisted – clearly they are both attracted to children of their own gender and incapable of not sexually assaulting them (and yes, that’s sarcasm).
They now have a prominent gay man (self -identified) confirming this is correct all over the media. I have no doubt it will be used as proof of this idea for the foreseeable future.
There are millions of people who think gay men recruit boys and “turn” them gay.On OWN network there was a show (Iyanla) two weeks ago on men who are survivors of childhood sexual abuse.A few of the men are gay.Most of the comments after that show was linking their sexual abuse to their sexual orientation.Kevin Spacey by linking his sexuality to his attempt to sexually violate this teenage boy is extremely damaging.
I was going to answer KC, but got busy. When I returned, I saw all these terrific answers!!!
“…survivors of childhood sexual abuse. A few of the men are gay. Most of the comments after that show was linking their sexual abuse to their sexual orientation.”
Of course. It’s always easier for those of the bigoted and prudish variety to dismiss someone as ‘damaged from sexual abuse’ (or in other words, ‘too raped to know better’) than it is for them to take a critical look at their own prejudices, the intolerant and violent patriarchal society they come from, and the role they play in others’ oppression. The homophobes will play that card just like the transphobic people and the misogynists (male and female, usually sex-negative) will.
How dare he use his homosexuality as a cover for his pedophilia? No we aren’t buying it, Kevin!
If we can’t admire the works of imperfect men, then we will end up hating the whole world.
that is a falsehood
Bollocks and the man is not ‘imperfect’ he’s a sexual predator/ criminal so just cut the sanctimonious crap.
We’ll have to content ourselves with admiring imperfect talented people who do *not* sexually assault children. I think there will be enough around to keep us afloat.
Obviously, not all men have tried to sexually approach a minor, but if you look hard enough, you’ll very likely find something: racism, sexism, violence toward women, etc.
Truth be told I had never heard any of the tumors (both about sexuality and predator tendencies) until now. This whole thing is disgusting. I know how far this reaches, but at the same time it’s just shocking to see all these people fall. I think I’m kinda done with Hollywood 😕
@ Lynnie, Sorry but your typo of “tumors” vs rumors made me laugh (although it is fitting so you maybe it wasn’t a typo). Yes, these pedophiles & predators make me sick too.
Lol I didn’t even realize I had made it 😂 . No worries about laughing in this climate we need to find all the joy we can get.
I thought everyone knew he was gay.
As for everything else…disturbing.
So cancelled!
Rumors around for years of dubious behavior with minors and pay offs. How many other brave ones will come forward now?
No,no,no I am not distracted with this confirmation of an open secret, smdh.
I heard about Weinstein rumors, but was not aware of Spacey. Thank you to those who are in the know and have met some of his victims for sharing your stories here. Even though I didn’t know about his being a sexual predator or his sexual orientation, he always gave me the creeps. I thought American Beauty was overrated and I have never been a fan of his, which is probably why I knew nothing of his personal life. It doesn’t surprise me though. This is just the tip of the iceberg. There are many more sexual predators in Hollywood of all sexual orientations.
DM has a story about a woman who tweeted two weeks before Rapp, about how KS allegedly abused a loved one. And another person has said there are more allegations likely to come. So this is now beyond years of ‘net rumors.
Looks like “House of Cards” has fallen, now that the allegations are getting more exposure.
LA Confidential is ruined for me.
Everyone else already has said everything I am thinking about this sick child molester.
Wait…. What? Kevin Spacey is gay? Who knew? EVERYONE!
It’s gonna be hard for him to distract us by ‘coming out’ now.
Sorry, dude, no puppies for you!