In 2016, people were really mad at Prince William. William had, at that point, been BAFTA president for six years. And he had only made it to the BAFTAs once at that point in his presidency. In 2016, he skipped the BAFTAs for the second year in a row. I remember one of the times he skipped, he and Kate managed to get away for a luxurious Mustique vacation, fly back into London in time for BAFTA weekend, and yet neither of them showed their faces for any of the events, including the annual pre-BAFTA dinner held AT KENSINGTON PALACE. Like, William would have just had to walk a few yards to do an event and he was too lazy to do that. There were calls for Work-Shy Will to give up the honorary BAFTA presidency to someone who would – at the very least – show up for the British Academy’s biggest night.
Magically, just when the criticism of William and Kate’s work-shy ways was reaching a crescendo, they begrudgingly announced they would attend the 2017 BAFTAs. William had to make a pissy issue out of inviting Kate as his date – like, there were “concerns” that the Duchess of Doily Dresses would steal the thunder of all of the nominated actresses. In the end, Kate wore a boring and twee McQueen dress and no thunder was stolen. Will and Kate also skipped the pre-BAFTA dinner at the palace AGAIN last year, which even the American trade papers noted as “odd.”
Now we’re in a brand new year and William and Kate have some competition. Not any old competition either – an American actress is joining the family! So of course Will and Kate were extra-keen to confirm that OF COURSE they will attend this year’s BAFTAs, held on February 18th. I can’t believe the BAFTA president is going to attend the BAFTAs two years in a row! It’s a work-shy miracle! In any case, this year’s drama is about whether Kate will attempt to wear all-black, because apparently Time’s Up has asked BAFTA attendees to do another “blackout” like they did at the Golden Globes.
Picking an outfit for Bafta is difficult enough for any woman. The Duchess of Cambridge will this year face a trickier dilemma than ever: to make a political statement in black or risk being the only woman in the room wearing colour. The Duchess, who will attend this year’s Bafta ceremony with the Duke, will be left in a diplomatic minefield, as actresses prepare to wear black dresses in support of the Time’s Up movement.
A letter circulated to female nominees urges them to follow the example of the Golden Globes, to leave a room full of women in all-black as a “strong, unifying and simple statement”.
The Duchess, who wore a patterned black evening gown to the ceremony last year, is not in the habit of public protest, in keeping with the Royal Family’s policy of avoiding anything which could be construed as a political statement. Kensington Palace last night declined to comment on the Duchess’ decision, ahead of the ceremony on February 18th.
Considering Kate has issues choosing the right color story for particular events – #NeverForget the hot pink coat at the 9/11 Memorial – I would say she’ll probably take pains to NOT wear black this time. Wearing color will have the added bonus of making her stand out in a sea of black, which is what she wants anyway. My prediction: she’ll wear a new, customized/bespoke Jenny Packham with a lot of lace. It will either be in light blue or cream. And she’ll probably drop $20K on it and never wear it again.
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I tend to agree that she prob won’t wear black – she’ll wear something to make sure she stands out against the starlets who prob will wear black to support the cause.
As much as i would love her to wear a TImesUp pin she won’t – she’ll stay clear of anything that will pull her into the conversation. She’s in the best position to promote the cause.
THIS was the year for her to avoid attending (if ever), but she can’t attend this event and not support such a crucial cause (by wearing black)….it will seem aggressively tone deaf.
In fairness to Kate, it won’t be her decision to make. Buckingham Palace will issue a directive and she must follow it. Royals are not permitted to make “political statements”. Yes, I would love it if she could stick it to tradition, but it’s not going to happen. Especially, since her hubby will be king someday.
If Kate meekly follows Buckingham Palace’ s directives, then I guess Buckingham Palace must have encouraged her to keep on flashing, and to keep on spending thousands on coats and dresses that look virtually the same, and never ever wear them again.
Kate’s flashing and profligate spending are all Buckingham Palace’s fault.
In this situation, though, there’s a sense in which NOT wearing black is also making a political statement. A loud one, given how much she’ll stand out.
I agree it won’t be her decision, though. I suspect it will be William’s. What is also interesting is that Harry will listen to Meghan, who will be strongly pro, so will William listen to his bro on it? My thinking is that he might, but who knows.
We have someone woke now at the heart of this family. Be interesting to see how far that influence extends.
I think she’ll wear navy blue. Not black so not a political statement in support, but not a stand out color that could be construed as a political statement against. Just dark enough of a color to make people wonder… and have people talking whether she is or isn’t.
She probably won’t wear all black, and that’s a huge misstep IMO.
It’s a mistep for her TO wear black
She’ll avoid black and we’ll have ‘royals have to be 100% politically neutral and can’t wear black!’ blasted from every angle. It gives her plausible deniability about her feelings towards the cause and lets her stand out in photos like she loves.
And when it’s pointed out that standing up against sexual harassment and sexual assault is not a partisan issue, we’ll get something about protocol.
I want to say she will show some sign of solidarity because how could she not, but Kate has had some spectacularly tone-deaf moments so I’m not sure.
Solidarity with other women isn’t, and never has been, Kate’s thing…
Kate has improved significantly since she hired Catherine Quinn. I think it is possible she will get ti right.
It’s not her choice. Also a future Queen cannot represent the rest of us women.
BTW, she works more than him. Where is he?
I get that why pretend to be neutral. and that family really cannot support women. The way they treated Diana and Fergie and Charles and his blondes… And his dad and his gal pals…
If Kate wanted to do it, no one could stop her. I’m confident that if Meghan were in her place, she would do something to show her support.
Kate doesn’t have to worry about so much in her life because everyone else’s support protects her. It’s genuinely distasteful if she considers herself as a future Queen outside of this issue and demonstrates that by not showing some form of solidarity. Kate isn’t the Windsor men and she can make the statement for her own beliefs.
He was at things the last 2 days. Go to Daily Fail-they cover him.
I can’t go to fail anymore. I always click on comments and I lose faith in humanity.
Yeah, i see he was somewhere and complained.
He doesn’t get covered here very much if Kate isn’t with, but he has also been at it this month quite a bit, giving lots of speeches and chatting up teens. I will be VERY interested to see what he does once Kate goes on leave. Of course, Sophie and Anne and Chaz are out there every day, but don’t get much if any buzz.
What are they going to do, fire her if she wears black? Seriously, what would the consequences be? Is the palace going to put out a statement saying that they don’t agree with the duchess of Cambridge and she’s acting as a rogue agent against their wishes? Is she going to get a “talking to” by the Queen? Is she going to be “grounded” and not allowed to do events? All of these things go against the interests of the royal family. Nothing will happen. And couldn’t she wear black without actually saying she’s doing it because of #timesup? It’s a dress in a certain color, it’s not an hour long speech about taking down the patriarchy in which she promotes a bunch of liberal, female politicians. In any case, I HATE that #timesup is considered “politicial,” in any way. It’s about women wanting to be able to live their lives and work without being sexually harassed, assaulted, or raped. If anyone feels like that’s political, then that’s awful, and they’re awful people. It’s not some liberal political agenda to ask men to stop assaulting women. The royal family supports all sorts of social causes. Fighting global warming, fighting the stigma of mental illness—both of those would be considered highly political in America, but in Britain I think they’re just social causes. #timesup is a social issue, not a political issue. She has no reason to not support it by wearing a black dress.
Even since the wedding announcement, Will and Kate have been more out and about that 2 entire years combined.
So it proves that they could’ve done more engagements in the past, unless they’ve a new advisor, or else it’s the engagement of his brother.
Meghan did say she was going to hit the ground running and she did.
Yes, Katie and Willie *could* have done more work. They did set some expectations during the engagement interview but all I could take from there was Kate’s phony accent, Wilie’s awkward body language and attitude and Kate being dismissive regarding all those negative opinions of her lack of work. And her answer *do not care about what other think because I do pull off my weight and so on* showed her real character. And Will’s for that matter.
I am convinced that Meghan’s arrival in the family made the two Dolittle move their pampered a**es. They didn’t work or showed up more when the DoE asked them to. They didn’t care that older and frail BRF members outworked them for years on end since their wedding.
The BRF knew months before that once Meghan finished Suites the engagement would be announced. This blog predicted it too. The hiring of the new secretary was not done separately from Harry’s engagement. It was done in parallel so the Dolittles would work more and save face for when the inevitable comparisons to Harry and Meghan would come up.
I actually think it is the new assistant they hired (por was hired por them under Clarence House instructions) after Rebecca left to start her new married life. You can see it in Kate”s improved speeches. This new woman is a profesional who doesn’t coddle them. I reckon they have (miss)spent the “goodwill” years… They got away with doing less, but wuth the “retirement” of the DoE and the age of the Queen.. They have been forced out…
I think so too SoulSpa.
Nothing says fighting harassment like forcing people to dress in a certain colour then shaming them when they don’t. These ladies should be able to wear any colour they want but then could wear a black armband, a ribbon or a pin to support the cause.
Excellent point.
I so agree, it nearly angers me that such a letter exists. Who do they think they are? If the british actresses wish to do something jointly at their major awards ceremony, they should do it, but never ever this way. Plus if Time’s Up has such close ties to CAA as I read here in the comment section, than I would strongly suggest to block Time’s Up. CAA is getting away much to easy.
Completely agree.
She might could wear navy, yes? A dark colour in “support” but not black so as to not compromise the BRF’s efforts to stay ‘neutral’.
Came here to say just that.Navy,or navy and black combo to signal that she gets the point,but isn’t supposed to publicly express her political views.
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer decided to participate in an AIDS walk but didn’t want to wear a red ribbon…he wasn’t anti-gay, he just didn’t want to wear one. The AIDS walk staff tried to insist he wear one, to which Kramer replied, “You know what you are? You’re a ribbon bully.”
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^^^THIS. Not only that, the Times Up movement is extremely problematic considering it was put forth by the very same agency who seemed to act as Harvey Weinstein’s pimp for decades.
@Whatever, totally agree. I don’t understand the insistence that she appease the masses by doing what they would like her to do or else she is unsupportive of women’s issues. Its ridiculous and borders on bullying. The color of a dress does NOT in any way effect a sociopolitical stance. In fact I’m sure people who aren’t even invested will go along with this just to avoid internet backlash. Honestly, people should be allowed to be themselves and act in their nature without some one miles away getting hot flashes because “the dress colour” isn’t right.
What about the men??? Why are the men not obliged to show some kind of support? After all majority of abuse as we know it is committed by men, so why are not being drawn into this to show support and solidarity? What do women always put each other to task so vehemently when they should be looking outward not inward.
In matters of racism, we charge the race responsible for suppression with showing support against racism, we look outward, the same should be done with abuse. Let the focus be on the abusers to act in support, and to make outwardly gestures to at least show they are aware of the impact of abuse, recognise it and get into conversations about change. Women and victims don’t need to get into conversations about change, THEY ARE NOT THE PROBLEM!!! It is those who require change that are the problem.
“What about the men?”
This is the most ridiculous part of a #MeToo blackout – all along, most men have worn tuxedos and have basically been doing a blackout gor fashion’s sake, so it’s not like they’re suddenly doing it to make a statement about sexual harassment and abuse.
The BAFTAs are more than a fancy party for Kate to attend with her hubby. There are real issues that actors face and being associated with the British film industry means William and Kate have to deal with them. Sticking their heads in the sand and claiming bullying would show how sadly out of their depth these two thirty-somethi.gs are when it comes to life beyond posing for a picture.
The men show their support by wearing a pin. So they do have something that they’re supposed to do to show they support the cause. I think the idea of women wearing all black is to show that all of us are no longer going to tolerate being harassed and abused. And to show support for and solidarity with the victims. And to show that we are all invested in and taking this movement seriously, and that we do not intend to let it just go away after awhile. I think the point is to continue to make mass statemtns so that #timesup and #metoo will continue to be talked about.
And while men are the main abusers, women are sometimes complicit in misogyny, or in covering up men’s crimes, or in supporting the men and trying to explain away their crimes. So it could also be about showing that we are no longer going to turn a blind eye to the abuse.
Ooohh, brilliant post. I don’t know why but I absolutely detest the neckline of the dress Kate wore last time. It is as if they ran out of material it looks so tight and scrimp.
Yep. The women are the ones expected to change it up. Nobody suggested that all the men should wear all-white, or all-red at awards ceremonies – the onus is on the women. Again.
And CAA being so front and centre here is just wrong. So wrong.
She will not wear black and the press office will use the excuse that royals never make political statements or any type of social statements and wearing black is in essence a protest- so voila—— Katey Keen Will side step it.
Yes, not only she can’t make a polític stand, but technically she cannot dress in all black per protocol (it is apparently reservesd for mourning). She has done it before, the all black attire, for a visit to a oncological ward for kids and she was very criticized.
Anyway, I truly don’t expect a woman who married into a anachronic way of life and had almost 10 years of her life on hold for William to campaign for Time’s up…. Even when she would benefit for it.
She has worn all black to formal events before without any criticism for breaking protocol.
As I’ve said she has worn all black before, and the very next day it has been said that she broke protocol for that. She can wear navy though, it flatters her more and it is closer to black…
She has at least half a dozen nearly identical black lace dresses she wears all the time. The only outrage over her wearing black is in the comments section of the Daily Fail.
I don’t think showing support for people who have been sexually harrassed is a political statement. It’s a human rights statement. Showing support for a piece of legislation surrounding it would be political.
I also agree that subliminal pressure to wear something to support a cause isn’t cricket.
Absolutely agree. Appalling, that taking a stand against criminal abuse is seen as somehow political. Funny how AIDS ribbons or breast cancer ribbons or poppies aren’t political, but this is?
It reminds me of the constant claiming that taking a stand against Apartheid was political. That sports teams going to South Africa weren’t getting involved in politics. Human rights are not about politics – the Queen knew that, and came down hard in private against the government of the day, because she felt being head of the Commonwealth meant she had a responsibility to reject racism as a system of government. Thatcher was not happy.
We should place dust ruffle bets.
Brand new custom gown. Floral. Lacey. Sparkly chiffon overlay. Light not dark. Might pull the trick again of either obviously not wearing a bra (deep cleavage V, backless, etc.) or having a high slit. Very Yummy Royal Mummy.
She needs to look to Madeleine and Victoria of Sweden for good maternity evening gown designs, but she won’t.
Yes she should look to them for lovely maternity style,but she won’t
*shrug* That’s the thing with personal taste. It’s up to you. Her taste is clearly not your taste but she seems to gravitate towards a certain style. She doesn’t need to adhere to what you call stylish. For all you know, if she saw what you wear, she’d hate it and think YOUR taste is appalling. Works both ways.
She can wear one of her many existing maternity evening gowns. Absolutely no need to purchase entirely new maternity wardrobes each time she is expecting, but she does it anyway.
Something beaded with cap sleeves. Boring shoes and clutch. Wiglet and borrowed earrings.
I sincerely hope she does wear black. While royals are supposed to be apolitical, I’d hope that her wearing black and William wearing a #TimesUp pin wouldn’t be considered. Standing up against sexual harassment just seems to be a general good cause. Harry has made video messages for #HeForShe. It boggles the mind that standing up for women and gender equality is STILL controversial thing.
ETA: There was no mention of William or men in general in the post. As I mentioned above, Times Up has a pin that men can wear on their lapel to show support. Or they could also snazz up their suit and wear all black (which I don’t expect William to do).
My vote is that she’ll wear navy. Can’t be accused of being political but still close enough to black to not appear to be entirely oblivious to the message being presented by the female nominees.
I totally agree. I think Navy is her best bet to stay apolitical but not stick out like a sore thumb.
Hopefully she and her team have enough sense to realize this
Yup, I’m thinking Navy or possibly another black dress with a pattern.
I think another black dress with a pattern. The McQueen from last year would’ve been perfect imo.
She’ll wear a dark navy blue.
…or a bright canary yellow because she is a little vain and a lot clueless when it comes to dressing appropriately.
Up thread I said maybe navy or navy/black but your comment 😂😂😂😂
Deep sigh. Will Meghan and Harry make an appearance too? I think not. The spotlight kannot be taken away from the two Dolittles. Or have Meghan look better than Katie. Sigh.
Has Harry ever gone to this?
I have no idea if Harry’s been at the BAFTAs before. I don’t see why he and Meghan would not make an appearance at such a prestigious event given Meghan’s acting career. Of course, other than not outshining the Dolittles.
@SoulPSA
Prince Harry doesn’t seem to have done any events this week. He is not working any harder than they are.
I really hope Meghan takes an interest in the theatre, especially the theatre outside London. The RSC in Stratford could really use a prominent supporter.
@merritt Prince Harry visited Transition Intervention and Liaison Service at the Lakes Mental Health Hospital in Colchester
He is doing engagements but privately no photographers.
William is the honorary BAFTA president, it is *his job* to show up at this. As with Duchy management and The Prince of Wales Trust – these are William’s to do, not Harry’s. There should be no expectation of Harry doing William’s job.
I really hope that Meghan will become the patron of some organisations that are related to acting and drama, as she is an insider and will show real interest unlike W & K.
AND her hair will be down so that any jewelry she is wearing will get lost. And it will have an odd high neck.
It doesn’t seem like she ever really wants to stand out, I don’t really get attention whore vibes from her. I don’t know what she’ll decide, but it seems that she could safely get away with wearing black if she wanted to. I wear black all the time and not as a political statement (really, who’s watching me?) but because I’ve always liked it as a timeless, classy and easy-to-work-with look. Probably the pin would be going too far from a royal, no politics standpoint, but a black dress? Also, doesn’t she recycle clothes quite often?
She frequently wears outfits that make her stand out and be noticed especially at sombre places or events. She would know ahead of time that everyone else would be in black or navy at those events. She shows up in hot pink, cream, pale grey, charlie brown zigzag grey. William and Harry will be wearing black or dark blue suits – she’s in something bright.
Reminder? Hot pink at 9/11 Memorial. Brand new white floral dress and open-toed sandals to visit a concentration camp, looking all the world like she was attending a summer picnic.
She frequently tries to upstage the Queen at royal events which is always hilarious to see.
I thought that backfired nicely when she wore the Kardashian bright red outfit on the Jubilee barge. All the other ladies were in light outfits – and she blended into the red velvet chairs and carpet.
I don’t really think it backfired. I know a lot of you can’t stand her, but she is still the royal a lot of people want to meet and she is the one in most of the pictures if she attends an a event with other royals.
The pictures her fans crop and share online? Or from a press that is desperate to make a cash cow out of a sow’s ear?
At the Queen’s Jubilee, she is not the royal people want to meet. She should recognize that. She should also dress accordingly so as not to draw attention with expensive new outfits, jewelry, or bright shades. The other royal ladies recognize that.
I noticed that too. Still no sash though.
At the Queen’s jubilee, wasn’t the boat red and the Queen in white though? Or was that another event? I will give her a pass on that one. She does have a tendency (or major proclivity toward) missing the mark though.
Is she allowed to make a political statement that doesn’t come from the palace (geniuine question for the Brits on here)?
Here’s the thing TimesUp seems to be an American based company and now I’m having issues with CAA’s involvement at all. The BAFTAs are a british awards ceremony. Leave them out of it.
CAA is one of the most powerful agencies in the world. Everyone wants to be represented by it or at the very least not on it’s wrong side. Plus many of the members of BAFTA are also members of the Academy so the message is repeated on both sides of the pond.
“CAA is one of the most powerful agencies in the world. Everyone wants to be represented by it or at the very least not on it’s wrong side.”
I’m sorry but that’s not a good way to justify it. CAA are complicit in the sexual harassment. Nobody should fear they are on the wrong side of them.
I’m not justifying it, but it is the reality. And if you think their power is easily thwarted, i have a bridge to sell you.
They represent the A- list across all branches of the business. Being represented by them is the pinnacle of success whether it’s good for you personally.
I suggest you read about their founder Michael Ovitz to understand how they operate.
You are right LAK, and I couldn’t agree more.
CAA practically invented the agency package deal where a project gets the green light and CAA packages the talent with a director they manage. If an actor is on the roster than they may get good character work because they are frequently packaged.
Let the shaming begin. That’s the spirit of #timesup or ….?
“The TIME’S UP Legal Defense Fund provides subsidized legal support to those who have experienced sexual harassment, assault, or abuse in the workplace.”
Mocking her for her silly wardrobe choices, her laziness, and her years of lies doesn’t qualify for protection under Time’s Up.
@Kaiser, generous of you to think that she even has a clue about Time’s Up.
That was my first thought.
It’s highly possible that if someone explains it to her, she’ll respond with ,’gosh, how interesting’ before picking out an acid coloured bright dress, middle aged chignon outfit to wear.
Like water slipping past pebbles in a stream.
100% agree with LAK and notasugarhere!
Sexual harassment can affect any woman in a personal, private or emotional way, even the vain and vapid ones. Shocking, I know.
Gosh, how interesting!
LAK 😉
I want to word this correctly so bear with me.The #timesup/#me too movements are so important and long past due,and I think the unfortunate way of
“Old school ” thinking and behavior,you know,just blatant misogynistic behaviors,stem from when women were taken care of /treated like a possession-even if they were loved and cherished they were “property “of their husbands and fathers. I don’t think Kate is dumb or mistreated at all,but she has shown us that besides her university degrees,she is quite happy to rely on a man for her lifestyle.She has every right to live how she pleases,but it could be easily concluded that she doesn’t care as much as the average woman about harassment etc.,because she is glad to be part of an institution that glorifies the man and treats the woman as an ornament. I really don’t mean any insult toward this woman,because of course she can be affected by harassment,but I get the idea that she would be happier to just look the other way instead of taking a blatant and strong stand .
Her, no. Her new, smart, overqualified private secretary, definitely. So hopefully she’s been briefed at the very least.
“because she is glad to be part of an institution that glorifies the man and treats the woman as an ornament.” Err, so is Meghan Markle..
Kate Middleton acts like an ornament, Meghan Markle doesn’t (thus far, early days).
NOTA – couldn’t agree more! I would be very surprised if she’s heard of it. Not that she doesn’t care but that she exists in a bubble. A bubble full of rich, white, aristocratic types who also live in bubbles and for whom the outside world is a curiosity which doesn’t affect them. I kind of understand it as I too live in a bubble – it’s called the far north of Scotland! I sort of know what’s going on as I read social media (although I still don’t get ‘woke’, what does that mean?!?!) but tbh it’s just noise. BAFTA dresses and Hollywood are as far removed from my life as you can get, it’s just not on my radar at all unless I seek it out. I imagine it’s the same for Kate. Hopefully her staff are more awake and brief her accordingly but I do think she has little interest in anything outside her own sphere and family. I can see Pippa understanding stuff but Kate? No.
I just wish she would stop slouching and stand up straight.
That’s always my big complaint. Shoulders back!
I’ll give them credit for just showing up.
How is that going to be different from any other time?
BAFTA should be Meghan’s turf because of her profession. I wonder if she will start going to the security awards once she’s in the BRF?
The Security Awards could be perfect for her. She’ll have plenty of camera’s to catch up on her pouting and posing and plenty of monitors to view the results! lol.
I disagree. Meghan had a minor career in acting in Suits (in a supporting role) and a few Hallmark movies. The quality of her career is not comparable to Grace Kelly’s, for example, who opted for marriage to a prince, and certainly not to many if not most of the kind of actors honoured by BAFTA . She’s not on their level, either in acting chops or career longevity. It would be more an embarrassment all round: to Meg because she never achieved the success that the people in front of her have done and who are now forced to bow to her because of marriage. Personally, I think she is well out of doing acting-associated work, simply not to invite comparisons. Can you see Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, and any number of insanely talented actors having to bow to someone with considerably lesser ability in the same area? They would, but man, the optics would jar: merit surrendering to privilege.
Honestly, that’s not meant as a diss to Meghan since getting regular acting work looks to be near nigh impossible. But she reminds me of actors who achieve a minor and fleeting level of fame for a while, though for whatever reason are unable to propel it further, despite superb networking skills.
It would be humiliating for her to go to an event like this she was never on the same level as anyone at this event not even the seat filler.
Any time any of us has to bow to William and Kate (and, arguably, the rest of them, but especially William and Kate) it’s merit surrendering to privilege. There’s nothing different about Meghan.
I disagree. Meghan is not a fantastic actress with outstanding success. Not all actors are and that’s a fact. But then if you apply the logic above, wtf is doing Kate at all those events when she’s never worked a legit day in her life and has no professional accomplishments to speak of. None whatsoever.
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@ SoulP.
Kate is married to the future King of England, thats why she is there. Meghan is marrying the 6th in line and is not entitled to any of the events and dinners Kate gets to go to.
Meghan’s career was ok, and it wouldn’t be humiliating unless she considered herself a thespian and not a fan.
Less than 10 percent of actors in SAG support the entire union. It is challenging to get a job on a show much less a series that runs for seven years. It isn’t A-list awards level, but you all act like she was a reality TV star like Pippa’s brother in law Spencer.
Why would she be embarrassed? She didn’t star in porn or misogynistic Rap or Rock videos.
Just an average actress on a successful cable series.
I don’t think this would be a problem. I find it far more jarring seeing Theresa May lowering herself in front of Duchess Dolittle!
I disagree Meghan may not have won an Oscar but she knows what is required to survive in that tough industry and will have enormous respect from the actors and genuine interest in learning more about what they are doing and have done. Much better to have people involved in charities in which they actually have a real sustained interest and understanding.
MM was a unknown actress in Hollywood. She was not on even on the level of a reality tv star. Nobody knew who she was until she started dating Prince Harry. I also don’t think she can go anyways. She is not yet apart of the family and Harry is 6th in line anyways, they will be minor Royals once they marry.
Well, I did. And I’m all the way south in Argentina, very far away from Hollywood.
@lidya by using your standards Kate is less popular in hollywood than a reality tv star. Kate doesn’t sell covers coz she doesn’t have an identity other than the fact that she is snagged a future king. That might have been something in the 50’s but it’s 2017 and women value a work ethic.
Harry might be 6th in line to the throne but the dolittle’s have been riding hid coat tails since their time at school.
@Cee
Come on, so she wasn’t famous in Hollywood yet was somehow famous in a country like Argentina?
Thanks for the laugh( and the lie!)
cee mentioned this months ago. A show isn’t on for seven seasons around the world if no one is watching it. It is a business, not a charity. Some people knew who she was. So what? The other actors on the show don’t deserve such scorn.
So he’s 6th in line and where are you again in the lineup? I mean since this seems beneath you.
@Marina – now you’ve just made me mad. This is NOT like. I actually like law and lawyer shows. The Good Wife. Boston Legal. Scandal (ish). I’ve watched Suits since the moment it premiered. I now watch it one season delayed on netflix. I know a lot of people in atgentina that watch the show and know if her. The moment she was engaged everyone was “Rachel from suits is marrying a Prince”
Anyway, no need to justify myself to you but really do take care of how you address others. Just because you didn’t know about HER doesn’t mean anyone else didn’t. And just because I’m in effing Argentina doesn’t mean a cable show has no presence or audience. You seem to have zero idea of the international audience concept.
I knew who MM was starting in late 2015 because I liked some what her character wore.
MM was well known, especially amongst young people who watch Netflix etc. My children all knew who Meghan Markle was before she was with Harry, they were just surprised that she had a black mother.
Time’s Up is shady, and it’s amazing how it’s bad when Kate wants to stand out, but it’s totally ok when Meghan loves to be the centre of attention. Also, wearing something to show solidarity and not doing anything else is just so shallow.
Anna. I agree. People are so unable to see how Meghan just adores being the center of attention. Kate doesn’t try to stand out. Wearing a certain color does nothing for the cause. That is just ridiculous but typical of how Hollywood thinks and then the idea steamrolled. Do something besides just wear black.
There is just something so phony about MM. She strikes me as someone who is in love with themselves and doesn’t care for others. Just look at how quickly she has dropped family members, friends, husbands, dogs to get where she is at.
Kate is okay. I do like how she seems dedicated to her husband and family. She isn’t attention seeking or always looking for the camera either.
It’s really lovely how dedicated Kate is to her husband and family. (Which we pay for.) Brexit continues to be a shit show BTW, but isn’t it lovely how the pretty pretty princess continues to be so pretty.
And yet: M. Markle did charity work of her own volition, starting years ago. Kate did not!
Context. We’re talking about the 9/11 memorial and a concentration camp. Kate’s choices were … odd.
Why is Time’s Up shady?
Because of the funding from CAA
I guess I don’t understand why the whole thing is suspect because a powerful agency is funding the campaign.
CAA is the agency that set up a lot of the Weinstein meetings.
CAA spent days, weeks, months, years, and decades sending vulnerable innocent young women to Harvey Weinstein and other similar predatory monsters. They can be considered a menace to women.
It shady because Hollywood was okay with all these predators behavior until the Weinstein-gate came out. They never once addressed sexual abuse in Hollywood before it. People who tried to help to shed light on it were either blacklisted, or left the industry.
They still are not addressing pedophilia in Hollywood.
The Royals are also not supposed to intervene or show any sort of politics. Thats why she most likely will not wear black. People who are calling Kate names and saying she doesn’t support women don’t understand the Royal family. Meghan will have to do the same once she marries Harry.
I understand the Kate situation perfectly. I still fail to understand why women in Hollywood can’t rise up now, as if the collective failure to act previously prevented anyone from acting forever more.
What are the politics of being against sexual assault?
And the Queen deliberately wears bright colours to stand out.
What she wore to the concentration camp site was fine. It was floral and white.
It was brand new, white, floral, and open-toed leather sandals. Not okay in what to wear as a government representative at a concentration camp. See what other royal ladies have worn on similar visits (dark gray, hats, etc.)
No, it wasn’t Guest1.
It just wasn’t. It was not the worst mistake, but it is part of her pattern of problem dressing.
I can tell you in NYC she offended a lot of people. Like it or not she did. It was an appalling display of ignorance for someone who should know better. It is not the end of the world, but it wasn’t correct.
Their visit was a dud.
Hopefully, she is finally on the road to getting it together. When she does, I will be the first to compliment her, but I am not going to pretend she doesn’t have some work to do.
MM looks like someone who won the Powerball. Nothing seems genuine about her, I think Harry and her will end in divorce very soon after marriage. These 2 aren’t going to last at all.
Why should she wear black? It‘s an event in the UK not in the US.
Why are we acting like the British and American film industries don’t regularly mingle. CAA has a number of high profile English clients and they have an office in London. BAFTA hosts a number of events in LA, including a pre-party for the GGs. Why wouldn’t TimesUp ask? It’s an industry problem that could effect the people there too.
It would be good for her if she did choose to wear black. Her stans would be all over that and would definitely clap because she’s such a “woke bae” for doing one (1) thing. It’s the exact sort of minimal involvement that would be in their best interest to engage in, given that it doesn’t even require her to give a speech or anything, let alone do anything more than turn up for a fancy party.
However, given her rather depressing maternity fashion, esp in the evening gown department, I’m not holding out for anything. She’d probably turn up looking like a poor knock-off Morticia Addams. And quite frankly, I don’t think she’s that concerned about it, so her staff would have to prompt her, if she considers doing it at all.
While we need to still keep speaking up and about #Metoo and #TimesUp, I don’t like the idea that women have to be dictated to wear black in solidarity. That rubs me the wrong way. Especially since this is in Britain, why should Americans tell them what to do?
And I don’t think Le Duchess needs to wear black. The BRF supports only very few things by wearing badges, pics etc. and usually at events associated with the cause/charity, so it’s not on her if she doesn’t.
Also, if she does wear black, everyone will be up in arms as how she is not very vocal about being a feminist and it will be seen as pandering.
She is doomed if she does, doomed if she doesn’t.
The problem with forcing women to wear certain clothing is stupid and reeks of the same sexist b.s. that is rammed down our throats by men. So I hope we can give this “wear black” thing a rest.
Let them wear pins if they want to, but don’t force women into things and cancel them if they don’t.
Now she is getting shamed before she has done or not done something.
Katey Keen has consistently shown us that she DGAF about anything, so IMO its annoying to some to think her wearing black or not means she has given this any thought at all.
I thought the aroyals didn’t wear all black except as mourning. Diana wore a great black dress when she was engaged but not after marriage, except for the fabulous “revenge dress.”
The Queen wears black when meeting the Pope, as she does not enjoy the “privilege du blanc” afforded Catholic monarchs (who can wear white). And Kate has worn black many times, particularly in the evening.
Kate has worn all black outfits before.
I think she will wear a black patterned dress (as she did last year) to allow her defenders to say “SEEEEEE…. she wore black,” her detractors to say “She didn’t wear all black!” and to provide KP plausible deniability about a political statement.
Or she’ll wear hot pink.