So, it really does seem like Karlie Kloss & Taylor Swift broke up, right?

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Here are some photos of Karlie Kloss at Thursday night’s Louis Vuitton event honoring Jasper Johns. She attended the event solo, or at least she walked the carpet solo. Karlie is still dating Joshua Kushner, last time I checked. They’ve been together for years. Joshua is brother to Precious Jared Kushner, and I can’t imagine the Kushner family is too happy with all of the sh-t Jared has been up to, and continues to be a part of. But Jared’s treasonous situation hasn’t affected Karlie’s relationship with Joshua, from what I’ve seen. It must be a blessing to be so white and so rich that you can just avoid these kinds of internecine issues.

Anyway, the real story about Karlie Kloss doesn’t involve the Kushner family at all. Instead, we’re getting a story about a completely different kind of breakup. For months, there are have been rumors floating around that Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift are no longer BFFs. It felt like Karlie “cooled” on Taylor around the time of The Day of the Receipts in 2016. Karlie and Taylor still hung out after that – and made sure people saw it – but there was a shift and it was noticeable. Over the past year especially, it definitely seems like Karlie and Taylor barely spend any time together. They might have even had a true falling-out for all we know.

This week, Karlie was spotted hanging out – actually SOCIALIZING – with Katy Perry and a group of friends. This has happened a few times, where Karlie and Katy Perry have hung out, or been photographed together, or generally been seen NOT hating each other. While Katy is no longer Taylor’s #1 Enemy – Tay’s current #1 is Kimye – let’s not pretend that Taylor and Katy are cool with each other at this point. Katy made some overtures in public to Taylor and Taylor answered with cold, snake silence. Taylor is the Queen of Petty Grudges. And I just feel like Karlie has been added to Tay’s Grudge List.

I really do want to know what happened between Karlie and Tay. Was this just a natural falling apart, because they outgrew the friendship and had different things going on in their lives? Or was this truly a falling out? Hm.

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  1. Donna Martin says:

    I read a “blind item” that Karlie and Taylor had an agreement to come out at a certain time and Taylor changed her mind so they broke up. Just saying I believe that.

    • Abby says:

      oooh that’s interesting, and seems plausible. Also sad. :-/

    • QueenB says:

      But how would people know that?

      The reason why I believe they banged is simple: Taylors biggest dream is to literally f*ck herself. This is not about sexuality, its about narcissism. Her new beau also looks like these two.

    • Susannah says:

      In some ways, if Taylor was gay it would explain a lot. She’s had the best chemistry and seemed her happiest and most natural around Karlie. Her male relationships always seem so awkward and odd, almost like she’s play-acting for the cameras. If it turns out she was gay and just faking relationships it would give a reason for the weirdness.

    • Sherry says:

      I’m not sure I’m buying into that. I could as far as Taylor is concerned, because every “romantic” relationship she has is with someone in the business/someone to get her noticed. However, the situation between Karlie and Joshua is different. They’ve been together for years. Unless he’s gay himself and trying to hide it, but why would he? It’s not like his career/income is based on being heterosexual.

      I think Karlie outgrew the relationship. She’s heading up computer programming camps for girls, been dating the same guy for years (who is not in show business) and going to NYU. She’s growing as a person and growing out of that relationship.

      Taylor Swift seems to be stuck in “mean girl” high school mode.

    • NicoleinSavannah,GA says:

      I believe in KAYLOR!

    • magnoliarose says:

      Karli’s relationship with the nicer Kushner is a cover. He skulks around with others. I don’t know what he gets out of it except exposure for his businesses.

      Allegedly, Karli and Taylor were a couple. Some of the ladies that were in the Squad are down low lesbians or bisexual. Their petty fights aren’t about just friendships. The rumor is they broke up because Karli wanted to be honest and real. She didn’t want to lie and pretend. Taylor wanted it but could not go through with it, and Karli sort of began to almost out them in public and she got mad. Hence the passionate kiss photo that is certainly NOT platonic. Karli was devastated and tried to mend everything, but it didn’t work so now she is being a Petty Patty.
      Most of Tay’s showmances are with gay men except one. Can’t recall his name.

      I understand why Tay stays hidden. She has cultivated a narrow-minded fan base. But it doesn’t make for a satisfying life. She has a right to stay hidden if she wants to. It is her life and sexuality. But Karli is determined to out them with this behavior, and as much as I am not a Taylor fan, I don’t think that is fair.

      • H says:

        So Hiddleston is gay? Not sure if I buy that. Bi, sure. But what do I know about guys? Big ‘ol lesbian here.

      • Rachel says:

        Hiddles isn’t gay. I know a bunch of people who went to school with him or have worked with him, and he always had girlfriends and one night stands with women. I suppose he may be very deeply closeted but there are no rumours about him being gay save those that originated online and because of the Taylor nonsense.

        He is by all accounts desperately ambitious and fame hungry to the point even the young Brit actor crowd thinks he’s “a bit much” so it doesn’t surprise me that he’d have a fake relationship to boost his profile.

      • VSchnecken says:

        I don’t get this obsession with anyone supposedly being closeted, etc. The way the world is now, famous rich white ladies could come out as cannibals and no one would bat an eye. Or is it just that a bunch of commenters here are homophobes and the only “bad” thing they can think of to say is “OOH TAY TAY GAYYYYY?”

      • magnoliarose says:

        I don’t think it is wrong to be gay so to me it is like wondering if someone prefers coffee or tea. It has no importance about my feelings about anyone. I don’t choose people to be in life based on that, so I guess I am surprised it is so appalling to some that it is a possibility. That is more of a problem than wondering, and in a way, it exposes someone’s true feelings about LGBTQ+ people.
        Like I said allegedly. The rumor is.
        It is a gossip site so I offered the gossip. Believe what you want.
        If I want to slam Taylor, I do it with the things I dislike about her. Her sexuality doesn’t go into that category.

      • Rachel says:

        There’s still enormous pressure on celebs to stay closeted. Maybe some of the speculation is homophobic, but closeting definitely still exists. It’s naive to assume that if a celeb was gay they’d be out. The world just doesn’t work like that.

    • Milla says:

      I don’t believe blinds. But , if it’s true, it’s really sad.

      This is XXI century, why would someone have to pretend to like certain sex? Sad.

    • Ericka says:

      I have always thought that they were a lesbian couple, specially after I saw the picture of them kissing on a concert. Taylor’s “boyfriends” seemed to be “staged”

    • broodytrudy says:

      I’ve heard a million theories that have the same tune. I was never a Kaylor believer but I read a few things and I think I’ve gone full blown believer. Even the “beard” thread from Calvin Harris is pretty pointed. Is he petty enough to out her? I’m not sure.

    • MI6 says:

      Oooh, the Kaylors are out 🙄
      They fell out because 🐍 is…well, a 🐍.
      Why anyone would choose to hang out with that is beyond me.

    • Enoigh says:

      What?! Do you actually believe everything that is wrote?? Beat me up as I know you will but enough is enough. I have read this website for a long time and I’m done. If you want to make believe you know these people personals lives then be my guest, but this is insane. She was her secret lesbian lover??? Damn….

    • FLORC says:

      Well, it’s a BI so it’s BS.
      The only Blind items that are not complete junk are the ones made from gossip that’s at least a day old and confirmed. Silly stuff.

  2. HH says:

    I don’t know much about Karlie Kloss, but she seems like a person of substance. Not necessarily intellectual (which can be annoying and over-rated), but like someone you could have interesting conversations with. While I will commend Taylor on her business acumen, I couldn’t see myself holding a good conversation with her. At the end of the day, she’s self-absorbed. That will come through whether it’s the first conversation or eventually the 100th. Once you figure that out, you cool off on those people almost immediately.

  3. Tiffany says:

    It could be that someone just grew up in the relationship and the other could not accept it.
    Karlie has been getting more political and her coding for young girls is picking up more steam and attention.

    And Taylor….has a new boyfriend.

    People change and grow and sometimes people in your life do not like and feel they are being left behind.

  4. Alyce says:

    I am a Taylor/ Karlie relationship conspiracy theorist. I totally think they dated and I fully believe “Dancing with Our Hands Tied” is about Karlie. I think they are broken up now.

    And no, I don’t think there is anything wrong with it and no, I am not saying Taylor is a lesbian and all her other relationships are fake. All I am saying is that I think she is at least Bi. (See also, her friendship with Diana Agron.) However, this is just a gossip guess and I am all for Taylor keeping it private if she wants to even if it is true.

  5. Bridget says:

    Karlie and Taylor’s respective brands moved in very different directions, and that includes how they present themselves on social media. Karlie wants to be taken seriously, and publicly putting space between her and Taylor’s hearts and rainbows brand makes sense. But… also keep in mind that Karlie and the other Kushner have been together for a long time, and she’s running with a really different social circle now that she’s done modeling. I would be shocked if that friendship HADN’T cooled off.

    The part that I find interesting is that Karlie would align herself with someone that was such a public Clinton supporter.

    • upstatediva says:

      The Kushners (and the Trumps for that matter) used to be Dems-affiliated. Jared and Ivanka were in Clinton circles before the Launch of the Deplorables in 2015. So I think Karlie is going to promote her girls code and other projects, and Jared has many, many other things to worry about other than who his brother’s gf is hanging out with in celeb circles. Ivanka is probably just jealous.

    • magnoliarose says:

      The Kushners are big Democrats. Kushner and Karli made a big point of making that clear. Karli was a Clinton supporter.
      He makes sure everyone knows he is not a Trump supporter. Jared has gone rogue but he still isn’t a Republican, and neither is Ivy. Most of the Kushners hate Trump with a black passion, and it has caused Jared to be on the outs with many members of his family.
      Joshua is very liberal and very different from Jared. He loves him, but he stays away from DC.
      Mama Kushner did her best to make Jared break it off with Ivy. I mean she was brutal about it. A lot of them loathed Trump and didn’t want him in the family. But the father relented for whatever reasons.

      • Bridget says:

        I know that they are big Dems, but I just find the small touches interesting. And LOL, like Jared Kushner was that great of a catch himself. Money and reportedly a super dull personality.

      • A says:

        Father Kushner, I think, remains a big donor to the Dems. Up until this election, Ivanka and Jared were both obsessed with fitting in with the NY elite, who tend to skew towards the Democratic side (not always of course). They are very familiar with those circles and I’m positive that Jared at least voted Democrat most of the time.

        I think Ivanka and Jared are opportunists, just like the rest of the Trumps. I also think they decided its in their best interest to fall in line with 45 because their whole brand is that of their family. They are looking for publicity, which to them equals easy money. But in that process, they’ve alienated the same NY elite they desperately want to get in with.

        As for the Kushner’s–I highly doubt they’ve abandoned Jared in any sense. I think him and his brother are on the outs, but I doubt any of them really hold any ill-feelings towards Trump just because of his political affiliation. They likely don’t like Jared because his shenanigans are making them look bad in front of the society they count on for their business partnerships. They’re as opportunistic as Trump is on a good day.

        Anyway, all this to say, I think Karlie and Taylor likely also disagreed politically. I think Taylor is much more sympathetic towards the Republicans because she comes from a family full of them and they are the people who she built her career on. She had her start in country music. She probably “tries to see it from every side.” Meanwhile, Karlie Kloss is dating one of the Kushners. I definitely see a difference of opinion for sure.

      • magnoliarose says:

        @Bridget
        The Sylph is no catch. His parents seem to be under the illusion Jared is something special. Hahaha on that one.
        Jewish or not I think my grandmother would have plotted to have me kidnapped before I would have been allowed near anyone with that last name. I didn’t have very many Jewish boyfriends, and she would HINT HINT about how nice it would be if I did. However, if it had been him, she would have said, “You know (nickname) I begin to think maybe the Jewish thing is not so important”. Find yourself a nice Catholic boy.

        @A They are Orthodox, and his extended family has been vocal about their disapproval and were incensed when Jared used their grandparent’s story to try to help 45. They are a fractured family anyway with a billion grudges and poor behavior all around.
        But his criminal father Charles is BFFs with the disgusting Netanyahu Anyone who is good buddies with Netanyahu gets a long gimlet side eye from me. Both of them are crooked lying shameless worthless men.
        I agree that they are opportunists. His father talks a good game in interviews, but he’s in it for the same reason the Trumps are. To grift and grab as much as he can.
        I find them to be shameful and use their religion as a cover when they follow none of the tenants of Judaism. They are as bad as those bigot Evangelicals or right-wing Muslims who have ignored all the good and twisted it to do horrible things.

    • Berry says:

      I would feel awful about any woman marrying into the Kushner family. First of all , conversion to Orthodox Judaism seems mandatory. That’s a lot to ask of someone who is not born into the Jewish faith.

      Also, they are shady people. The father is a felon and Jared is in a very serious legal situation with the Russia investigation.

      Why would Kloss want to be involved in that type of family?

  6. Red says:

    It is weird that Taylor is seen with a ‘bff’ girl for awhile, they’re super tight for months/years, then they are never seen together again. Karlie, Dianna Argon, Julianne Hough. Almost like it is an actual breakup. I still believe the girl is a lesbian. And I feel for her if she is, because she probably would lose tons of her conservative fans if she came out. But I think she would gain a lot too.

    • Valiantly Varnished says:

      It’s not weird. I knew girls like this growing up. They are “friends” with people that they think it’s cool to be seen hanging out with. They are incredibly self absorbed and so they don’t actually know what real friendships look like. I think the reason all of these women stopped hanging with Taylor is, She’s a horrible person. Seriously. It’s all about her all the time. I’ve been in a friendship with a person like this and it’s the absolute worst. I eventually just cut off all contact. And I think that’s what happens with people who hang out with Taylor. She seems and is a lot of fun in the beginning until you actually get to know her.

      • Eleonor says:

        In high school I had a tight friendship like that, after a couple of years I realized that there were a lot of other schoolmates I had never considered because my friend wanted to be “exclusive”, so I simply started talking to other persons, I grew up and moved on. She never forgave me for this, she stopped talking to me suddenly I didn’t exist anymore.
        I’ve met her later in life, and she still has this kind of exclusive BFF. Now at 36.
        I do not think this kind of relationship is healthy.

  7. QueenB says:

    I wonder why no bigger outlets are picking up that Karlie apparently does not go to NYU and codes like she claims to:
    https://nyulocal.com/theres-no-fucking-way-karlie-kloss-goes-to-nyu-fb292346af3d

    • Veronica says:

      With the kind of money she has, it’s entirely possible she has an arrangement with the school for travel – OR is doing a hybrid class. But…that is really bizarre if she isn’t considering she runs a charity to push girls into programming. It’s not like her industry demands that women be smart.

      It’s not impossible, either. I work two jobs and routinely travel for the main one, yet I manage to complete classes online. I finished up both a women studies minor and am now doing an English degree via the online option. It’s not easy, but with enough discipline, you can do it.

    • HH says:

      I thought her Girls Who Code and other coding classes were done in conjunction with the Harvard Business School., not NYU…? As the post said, she did a Gallatin program/school, which allows people to tailor their study.

      Also, I agree with the above commenter that she could be taking classes online or doing a hybrid course. While that blog post made some good points, college classes aren’t like regular jobs or high school. You’re not in class five days a week and sometimes only twice a week if you schedule well. Many courses have Mon/Weds setup, or Tues/Thurs. That does leave four days off in between school weeks. She could be a phony. However, if I had people trying to clock my whereabouts like that, I’d prob try to do online or hybrid courses as much as possible.

    • kay says:

      Dude, she claims to code and then does an ad for Wix.com which essentially sells the fact that its platform requires no coding knowledge to make a website. It’s so obnoxious. Don’t pretend to do something that takes a shitload of actual work, frustration, and learning just to look ‘smart’ or ‘cool’.

  8. monette says:

    I hate Tay Tay, but friendship breakups are taugh.
    It’s been 2 years since my bff broke up with me out of the blue saying I wasn’t giving her enough attention( I had a new bf).
    I tried to make things better, get together, talk, explain, make up but she refused to answer any of my calls or messages.
    Then last summer I tried again, thinking enough time had passed.
    We are both over 30, in the meantime I got married and had a baby.
    I wrote to her on Fb, because she wouldn’t answer my calls. I apologized again and told her I wanted to meet.
    Her response was: Congrats on the wedding and baby. I should buy u something. Right now I’m out of the country, but leave me ur bank account and I will send u the money.
    After 8 fucking years!! We shared everything. I was MO at her wedding FFS.
    I did not lie to her, cheat with her husband, borrow money, none of those. She felt ignored and she ended it by phone. She is a fucking 32 year old psychotherapist and she acted like a 5 year old.
    2 years and it still hurts, exactly or even more like a romantic breakup.

    • Pedro45 says:

      I’m sorry. I’ve been there and it really hurts.

    • erni says:

      Wow

      edited:
      it’s sort of speechless “wow”.

    • SoulSPA says:

      Ouch. Monette, that’s a truly awful friendship breakup story. Time heals. Bon courage!

    • whatWHAT? says:

      I had something similar happen to me. I was one of those that hardly ever had a boyfriend in HS. just didn’t want the drama, preferred to date around. my bff was ALWAYS dating SOMEONE. like, she’d immediately start dating someone as soon as she broke up with the previous guy. blew everyone in our group off for events, especially me. I put up with it for far too long.

      Fast forward to post-college. I met a guy, love at first site, etc…(still together 25 years later)…I had met “the one”. I didn’t have as much time for her, and she was used to me dropping everything to hang out with her. she had been (IMO) using me for a while…like, hanging out with a new friend but then calling me to come over “and bring weed so you can smoke us up” but not inviting me for the preceding dinner/movie. Whenever we had fought previously, and she would hang up on me, I was always the one to reach out and call her back. so one day, after dating this guy for a couple of months, she gets mad because he and I have plans and I can’t be at her beck and call (“you never have time for me!” HYPOCRITE), and she hung up on me. I never called her back as I had had enough of her ME ME ME bullsh*t. it was really sad for me as she basically ghosted me after that, but I realized I was better off.

      with a “friend” like that, you almost always are. it does get better, monette.

  9. Nancy says:

    It’s very middle schoolish to hang out with friends of your former friend’s nemesis. This woman seems pretty cool, so I imagine it was she that came to her senses and left Swift to drown in her hate and revenge all by herself…..with her current bf to serve her of course…….

  10. Veronica says:

    You know, I don’t normally ascribe to conspiracy theories, but I do wonder about those two. The intensity at the beginning to the sudden radio silence now is rather curious. I would honestly not be surprised if they were legitimately dating for awhile on the downlow, and then it ended as cleanly as it could behind the scenes. But that may be my queer lady projection coming out.

    • Katherine says:

      Some of my friendships can look like that from the outside and none of them are/were romantic. My one same sex romantic relationship actually didn’t look like those friendships at all (at least I think it didn’t?). Not that I object to the theory, but so far I haven’t seen enough proof, which I welcome. Though her romantic relationships do seem staged. Funny enough, I actually am almost always single and if I were a big celebrity I’d probably want a staged relationship or two just to avoid the constant questions, Why are you single ALL the time, girl??????? I don’t know, that’s why.

  11. ichsi says:

    Karlie really is the embodiment of “a model” right? Look at these long, lithe limbs!! She doesn’t even look the same species as me.

  12. Lexa says:

    I have theories about this! Taylor seems like the type to have zero tolerance for friends who “betray” her, and it could be as simple as Karlie not willing to end her friendship with Kendall after the Day of Receipts, or she felt like Karlie didn’t defend her enough. Or Taylor broke it off because she didn’t want to have any connection with the Kushners, and, by extension, Trump.

    My main theory is that TSwift is a narcissist and the constant need for validation got to be too much for Karlie or she felt like she was being manipulated. There are a lot of classic signs: Taylor’s need to portray herself as the victim, the inability to handle criticism, the way she mirrored karlie’s looks until they weirdly resembled one another, etc. Taylor seems to have iced her out, which is a common response to a narcissist receiving criticism.

    Maybe they’ll show up on a pap stroll together in NYC just to prove how wrong we are, and Taylor just started spending more time in London, which cooled off their friendship…, but it does feel like something h happened and Karlie is pretending nothing did to avoid getting attacked by Taylor’s intense fans.

  13. joanne says:

    i think it’s irresponsible to speculate on the sexuality of two women who self identify as heterosexual. there are many reasons why friendships cool off. why accuse these women as lesbians when they both have always dated men? i have no problem with women stating they are lesbian or bi-sexual when it’s their choice to do so. it’s up to the person involved to declare their own sexuality.

    • Steph says:

      It’s not the first time something like this happens. Look for Diana agron and Emily poe. Lol

    • SAMS says:

      While I somewhat agree, using the word ‘accuse’ is a bit much.

    • Veronica says:

      Being gay/bi/pan/etc. isn’t really a crime, so I don’t know that I’d call it an accusation. As an LGBT+ woman, I’m just aware of the cost that can come with work and being open about non-traditional sexuality. It wouldn’t shock me to find out these women were dating, but it’s equally plausible if they weren’t. *shrugs* It’s more irresponsible of the culture to require people to hide it.

    • Alexis says:

      I believe Kloss has said she identifies as bi or pan, though. Just because a woman dates a man doesn’t mean they are straight. I don’t think Taylor has ever commented on her sexuality.

      I don’t see the problem with speculating on whether they had a romantic relationship. It’s no different from speculating as to whether people of opposite genders might be dating if there are pictures of them spending time together and having chemistry. It’s all equally harmless — unless one thinks there is something wrong with same-sex relationships.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Wow. Accuse.
      I think what Veronica said is right. It isn’t wrong to be LGBTQ+. It is sad when they can’t live openly and feel the need to keep quiet when they have done nothing wrong. If anything it makes me feel compassion for Taylor in that respect.
      There are a few photos of them looking like romantic partners and not platonic friends. I believe this to be true. I also believe she has the right to handle it any way she sees fit.

      What I don’t like is when people speculate on it based on how someone dresses or looks. Or if they are single or sensitive or creative or their career seems too masculine or feminine. That is when it becomes a problem.

    • A says:

      There are lesbian and bisexual women who have dated men in the past. Some people don’t come to the realization that they like women in their teens, or even in their early twenties. Some people don’t fully realize that the intense feelings they have for their friends aren’t exactly friendly. There are all sorts of nuances to the ways in which LGBTQ+ women realize that they love women or are otherwise not straight. In my experience, dating men, or even exclusively dating men, isn’t always ironclad proof of someone’s heterosexuality.

    • mltpsych says:

      But there is a clear pic of them having a very serious kiss at a concert. I would not kiss a platonic friend that way. But who knows?

  14. Shannon says:

    It definitely seems like something went down. It’s one thing for a friendship to cool off, happens all the time when people go in different directions. But to caption her photo ‘swish swish’? Yeah, something happened there.

  15. me says:

    Why don’t we ever hear about male friendships going “bad”? It’s always women that are spoken about. People come in and out of your life…it happens.

  16. Stacy Dresden says:

    I am annoyed by the phrase “swish swish”. That is all.

  17. Saks says:

    The guy in the pic is super close with Karlie and friends with Katy so nothing strange in them hanging out, Taylor’s actual bff liked a pic of Karlie in ig yesterday and Taylor is focusing on her tour… Maybe they are all stoping to behave like 10 year old girls?

  18. browniecakes says:

    Today is Tom Hiddleston’s 37th bday. Wonder what our old gossip favorite is up to today.

  19. jferber says:

    I have conspiracy theory: maybe they’re both vying to be the alt-right’s darling? Adorable Aryan icon? I have no receipts, just a guess since Taylor has no problem being the Nazi It-Girl.

  20. Reef says:

    Celebrity circles are small. They’re probably just busy and cooled off on their friendship because Taylor has a new man and promoting a new album. BUT for the sake of drama, I’m here for all the lesbian speculation. I wish it was with more interesting women, though.

  21. Jingle says:

    It’s not that they’ve “broken up” but rather karlie can’t handle that the way Taylor lives her life has changed. So for excitement she quotes “swish swish” lyrics on Instagram and that goes viral. Then for further kicks she actually goes on a pap stroll. I expect Katy & karlie to go out solo next. Until they get tired and finally move on.

  22. A says:

    I don’t think Karlie ever really cared for Taylor’s petty feuding. She always seemed like she was there to be a supportive friend, not to indulge in this type of behaviour personally or to behave as Taylor’s personal attack dog or stooge. She came off as the most grown-up friend Swifty had in her group. I bet they’re still friends, but just on the periphery, and they’re not as close as they used to be.

  23. Jayna says:

    Well, Jared’s brother is extremely liberal, but broke away from the family business, doing his own thing, quite successfully. But he still said he is very close to Jared, talks to him all the time.

    How can he stomach his brother being such a traitor to Joshua’s liberal ideals, much less the alt-right that has become the White House? We have a president that today said how sad he is for the wife abuser they had to fire and wished him well, but not one word directly to the abused women.

    I get how Karlie is still with Joshua, but if I were her, I wouldn’t be able to stomach seeing Jarvanka at any family gathering. I would want to spit in their phony faces.

    Jared and Ivanka sold their souls just to get close to power.

    As far as Taylor and Karlie, friendships cool off all the time in life where you aren’t as close..

  24. ladyb says:

    excuse my naivité but would Calvin had gone along with things so long he TS was a lesbian?

    • Katherine says:

      My running theory is he had a crush on her. Just listen to my way.

    • broodytrudy says:

      Calvin posted a thread about his beard and the awards process. I think it’s pretty pointed. Even Derek, who is photoed with Karlie above, and is friends with T.S. has posted some stuff alluding to them being together. He might very well be trolling. I’ve always been a huge skeptic when it came to things like this but we know Tay will straight up bash someone she’s feeding with. That’s her whole MO and she’s never done that with Karlie.

      • Jingle says:

        “Even Derek, who is photoed with Karlie above, and is friends with T.S. ”

        Derek is not Taylor’s friend. He is one of karlies best friends and yes, he does feed the kaylors (as does karlies sister) because they are the only fanbase karlie has. Has to keep them alive somehow. Meanwhile Taylor has millions of swifties and if every kaylor disappeared tomorrow her career would be stronger for it. If kaylors left karlie her entire fanbase would be GONE.

  25. Jussie says:

    I’ll always remember that photo Taylor posted on Instagram for Karlie’s birthday. Calvin Harris front and center, Karlie out of focus in the background. That right there pretty much sums up Taylor.

    I don’t think they were a couple. I think Karlie thought they were best friends, and then between Taylor’s friend collecting phase and her time with Calvin Harris when she ditched said friend collection, Karlie figured out that Taylor just uses people to project whatever image she currently wants out there.

  26. Rebecca says:

    They stopped being friends around the time Kim K’s receipts came out. Karlie was asked a question by a reporter about Kim and the receipts. Karlie said she didn’t have a problem with Kim and she thought Kim was a nice person. Taylor likes to be in charge of her friends. I think she was angry Karlie didn’t stick up for her and told Karlie she was angry. I think they got in a fight about it and Karlie decided she was tired of being controlled by Taylor and Karlie dumped Taylor as a friend.

  27. Jingle says:

    That’s not true about them not being friends because of Kim. Taylor’s life has just completely changed, regarding everything. “receipts” came out July 2016, she said Kim was a lovely person in “august” 2016. Taylor and karlie hung out after that in Oct 2016 at Drakes birthday party.

    Then Taylor went private in 2017 only appearance was performing in Feb at that Superbowl pregame concert. 2018 so far ZERO live public appearances or pap shots nearly 1.5 months in. Karlie is having problems with Taylor’s life style change and they simply grew apart because of it. Those who accepted the change like Gigi, Todrick, Ed, Camilla, Selena etc. are still her friends and there is proof they still hang out privately. There is no proof what so ever that she’s seen Karlie in well over one year. Selena won’t even let her own mother control her so no way would she let Taylor. So funny how everybody thinks Taylor can control grown ass folks who have their own money and careers.

    Taylor has a brand new album that she promoted less then two weeks (3 months ago) and is still “hiding”. Change appears to be in full effect and permanent. But hopefully she promotes her next album a little more with a few live performances, talk shows and magazine covers.

  28. GinT says:

    I thought that Celebichy would finally admit that Taylor hasn’t been dating all those dudes, and clicked faster than a lightning. But it was about a “friend” break-up. Ok, cool.

    I still believe they dated and Taylor is not straight. There is enough evidence to point that way.