Lisa Bonet: There was a dark, ‘sinister, shadow energy’ around Bill Cosby

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Lisa Bonet is just… a goal. To live her life, to have the lovers she’s had, to still be cool and present and enjoying herself… we should all be so lucky. Lisa covers the latest issue of PorterEdit Magazine (the online magazine of net-a-porter) and she was just a great choice. I feel like traditional, hard-copy magazines wouldn’t have put Bonet on the cover just to chat about her life, but really – we so rarely hear from her, and this interview was a joy to read. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:

She owns five acres in the canyon, and she has a bunch of animals: “That’s Amba and Zion, my wolves. Well, half-wolf, half-Malamute,” she explains, as they come to the fence to greet her. Then we hear a honking sound and Bonet’s face lights up. It’s her auburn donkey, Freya. “Isn’t she beautiful? We’ll go walking later, honey…I know people give Southern California a bad rap, but I love it here. You can create the life you want. [My life here is] quiet, tranquil and, yeah, a bit reclusive. But that’s my Scorpio nature. I already have that loner personality.”

A proud moment as a mom: “One of my proudest moments as a mom was when someone asked Nakoa-Wolf, ‘Well, what is life for?’ and he said, without missing a beat, ‘To protect Mother Earth, of course. But God also wants to play with Mother Earth.’ I just thought: my work is done!”

Being a mixed-race kid in LA: “The world wasn’t ready for what I represented, the merging of these two races. I didn’t always feel welcome – in my mom’s family, in my school. So I sheltered myself by always withholding a bit, because I didn’t always feel safe.” If she could go back, she’d tell herself to love herself more: “Try not to internalize the disdain and hate that was projected onto me.”

Whether the allegations against Bill Cosby tainted her happy years on The Cosby Show: “No, it’s exactly as I remember it,” she says. But did you have a sense that anything was happening? “There was no knowledge on my part about his specific actions, but… There was just energy. And that type of sinister, shadow energy cannot be concealed.” You sensed a darkness? “Always. And if I had anything more to reveal then it would have happened a long time ago. That’s my nature. The truth will set you free.”

On how Cosby derided her and shamed her as a wild teenager: “I don’t need to say, ‘I told you so.’ I just leave all that to karma and justice and what will be.”

Why wasn’t she a bigger star? “I don’t know! I always had one foot in and one foot out of the business, so that’s part of it. But also, it’s slim pickings out there! There aren’t endless opportunities for women of color, you’ve probably noticed.” At the time, Bonet’s love life was unsettled, a vestige from her childhood. “When your primary male figure couldn’t care less to show up, that can become a theme in your life where you’re trying to fill this gap with these different men.”

Meeting Jason Momoa: But in 2004 she met Momoa, 13 years her junior, at a jazz club in LA. “I can’t say it was full-on from the moment we saw each other, but we have been together from the day that we met,” she says. He needed a ride home that night, so Bonet took him, stopping at a café along the way for Guinness and grits. “In that moment, love came and it came big, and he did not run as I think a lot of men do. He basically picked me up and threw me over his shoulder, caveman style!” They’re a picture of happiness now. Lenny and Jason are friends, the kids are all tight, Thanksgiving is a big event at their house – Bonet’s two families getting along famously. “It’s fantastic. It’s full-on family love,” she says.

[From PorterEdit Magazine]

Imagine sitting at the Thanksgiving dinner table and looking around at Lenny Kravitz and Jason Momoa and knowing that at least you did one thing right. As for what she says about Bill Cosby… I’m glad she’s not out here, trying to sugarcoat anything for the sake of television history or anything. If someone else tried to pull this “I was a visionary about Bill Cosby back in the ‘90s,” I might have rolled my eyes. But I believe her: there probably was a sinister vibe and she could feel it. She felt it even more when Cosby publicly shamed her for, you know, just living her life.

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  1. smee says:

    Goal is right! Lenny Kravitz and Jason Momoa in one lifetime?! Impressive. I would say she comes across as very grounded and unaffected by fame.

    • Milla says:

      She’s wonderful but she was a single mum, Lenny wasn’t really a good husband, so i wouldn’t trade with her.

      Is it crazy to think she’s like american biracial version of Vanessa Paradis? They sound so much alike, both free spirited, both strong, but very beautiful and you just wanna know how are they so chic, so right, so feminine…. I’m not saying they are the same, but similar in their unique way.

      • Lucy says:

        The only difference between the two is that Vanessa would have probably said something like “well, he was lovely to me”.

      • Skoochy says:

        Yes, Lisa and Vanessa always come across as very similar to me, just oozing cool, and not contrived, trying to be cool, they just are. They don’t age, they just settle into their lives and bodies more. I hope I’m that kind of woman!

  2. Nev says:

    Amazing Icon

  3. littlemissnaughty says:

    It must’ve been so obvious to her that the man was as controlling as they come. The things we’ve always known about their relationship are probably only a fraction of what actually happened. And at the time, there was really not much she could’ve done without f*cking her career. I’m absolutely sure the man bad-mouthed her in the most manipulative way every chance he got.

    I loved her on that show. I love Phylicia Rashad on that show. The woman as just a vision and such a great actress. I loathe the fact that I can’t watch it anymore.

    • Jenn says:

      Bless her. She has every right to kick his reputation to death, as I’m sure he did hers. But she doesn’t, because it isn’t worth her time and emotional health. God, please make me more like Lisa Bonet

  4. Frome says:

    My biggest fear was that she had been one of his rape victims so this is good news. He treated her so badly, I just assumed there was more to it than the sexist control freak crap

    • Ankhel says:

      I guess the show got under his skin – instead of seeing her as a sex object, he viewed her as a daughter figure to control and punish. Still shitty and improper, but she dodged a bullet.

      • Mrs. Darcy says:

        I’m sure he was a perverted creep in his mind towards her as she was exactly his type, I think that’s part of the “dark energy” she felt, but I think he knew better than to try it on with such a high profile co-star. Denise was a very popular character, and Lisa seems like she was born not taking sh*t from anybody. He mostly preyed on women who hadn’t made it yet career wise. The fact that his other co-stars have defended him is disgusting, so props to Lisa for speaking the truth about him. I actually took acting classes for a while in N.Y. taught by the guy who played Elvin, Geoffrey Owens, I don’t know if he has spoken out, I would be sad if he was a Cosby supporter.

  5. Snazzy says:

    What a beautiful cover. She looks amazing. I do wish we could see her on screen more. I just googled A Different World and saw that Cosby pushed her off the show because they didn’t want her to be seen as unwed and pregnant on the show. From wikipedia: “During the summer of 1988, Lisa Bonet announced that she and husband Lenny Kravitz were having a baby. Allen was in favor of having a young pregnant student in the show, but Cosby said that Lisa Bonet may be pregnant but not Denise Huxtable”

    I shouldn’t be surprised but somehow I am

    • Kitten says:

      I remember that and it was so, so gross. We should have known then that this dude is peak misogynist.

      She is so incredibly beautiful. Sigh.

    • Krill says:

      I am no fan of Bill Cosby but he was right to nix the pregnancy storyline for Denise.

      The Huxtables were supposed to be that never before seen black TV family that defied the black stereotypes. And young unwed pregnant black girls was and remains a too common trope. Theres of course material to be mined in those storylines and theres nothing wrong with girls who go down that path but the world NEEDED a young black woman depicted as focused and driven to complete college and then start a family. Young people and white people may not understand why that was so important but just know that we were glad for this one plot choice regardless of the behind the scenes reasoning that got us there.

      • AMA1977 says:

        They could have not written the pregnancy into the show in the time-honored tradition of sitcoms everywhere; big sweaters/jackets, blankets in the lap, carrying bags of groceries, or using a huge handbag to camouflage. Then Denise could have gone on an extended exchange student trip abroad (or any other educational plot device) to explain her absence from the show for maternity leave. Cosby had her written off out of spite and malice, plain and simple, and she didn’t deserve it.

      • AMA1977 says:

        In fact, not to belabor the point, but when her sitcom mom, Phylicia Rashaad, found herself pregnant during the show when a new baby wasn’t in the cards for the Huxtables, the writers and producers accommodated her with storylines where her figure was disguised. Everyone knew Phylicia Rashaad was pregnant, but Claire Huxtable was not.

    • bananapanda says:

      That’s half the story. Cosby was apparently furious at Bonet for doing the movie Angel Heart with Mickey Rourke. It was very sexual and he didn’t like ‘that’ image mixing with his squeaky clean Cosby persona. He basically slut shamed her.

  6. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    I have always loved that woman. She lives and speaks my mind. She has much more courage than she thinks she does. Hell I remember dressing like her in the 80s. She’s always been a personal muse.

  7. KiddV says:

    I had such a crush on her back in the Cosby days, I wanted to be her, she was/is so cool. And I really like her taste in men.

    I remember one of my aunts told me that the older sister played by Sabrina Le Beauf reminded her of me. I was so disappointed, I wanted to be Lisa Bonet! LOL

    • Kitten says:

      Oh my god me too. I wanted to BE Denise so much. She always had the best 80s style too 🙂

  8. Nicegirl says:

    Thank you for this, I have loved Lisa since we were young. I wanted to be like her so much I made beaded earrings in8th grade to match a pair she was pictured wearing back in the day, lol. Still have em! Gorgeous cover photo. Her home environment sounds amazing.

  9. Rumi says:

    She is breathtaking.
    That cover is too beautiful.
    I hope there is justice for Cosby’s victims.
    I think he may have had a hand in her not being as successful as she should’ve been.
    I’ve heard gossip that her and Jason have an open marriage.

  10. MousyB says:

    What a goddess. Glad she’s found her peace in life. I cant imagine knowing someone is not a good person/having them basically ruin your career (or put a dent in it) and no one really caring or believing you.

  11. teacakes says:

    Of course she guessed Cosby wasn’t the nice old papa figure he pretended to be, how could she not when he tried to ruin her career for daring to have a personal life?

    I’m so glad she’s happy now, though.

  12. Lala says:

    Being a Scorpio myself…I click with EVERYTHING she said…I swear the things that are unsaid speak more consistently and louder than things that are said for me…and MAN do I overstand her stance regarding her love life…as my journey has been similar…LOVE HER!

  13. lucy2 says:

    I’ve wanted to be her since I was about 8 years old. Still do.

    While the way he treated her was terrible, I’m glad she was not yet another physical victim of Cosby. It’s pretty interesting she picked up on the bad vibes from the start, he had a lot of people fooled for a long time.

    • Fleur says:

      SAME, girl. Same. I’ve wanted to be her since the early 90s. She was so gorgeous and quietly charismatic, and deserved more opportunities than she got. She and Claire were the most interesting characters on the show.

      Interestingly, as improbable as it sounds: I always felt uncomfortable watching scenes where Cliff was getting romantic with Claire. There was an air about him in those scenes that creeped me out—and I remember that feeling very clearly, and didn’t understand why. I loved the Cosby Show, I watched it routinely as a kid.

    • jwoolman says:

      I’m not surprised to hear that she felt some “dark energy” from Cosby. I was creeped out by him just watching on tv (I was older than she was at the time, maybe by as much as ten years). I didn’t know why I felt that way. I don’t remember any particular reaction to him as a standup comedian or in that spy show he did. But starting with the Dr. Huxtable role – he made me feel very uncomfortable. Nobody else on the show made me feel that way. I’ve had that feeling before from watching people on tv and unfortunately it always comes out later that there was a reason.

  14. Catherine says:

    Been jealous of her since like 1987

  15. Sarah says:

    Love her, but virtually every gossip blog laments Mamoa for his philandering / drinking / partying lifestyle. I have no idea if it’s true, but they are also rumored to have an open relationship and if that works for them – great!

    • Patty says:

      What gossip blogs? I’ve never read anything about him being a douche. He’s got a dude bro chill vibe but that’s not the same as being a douche. I’ve akeays read that they’re pretty devoted to each other……but I guess only they know the true reality of their relationship. I still like them both. It’s a couple that just fits and works.

    • H says:

      No, he’s a philanderer. How do you think they met? Jason was engaged to another woman at the time and about a month away from their wedding in Australia. The ex fiance had supported Jason through the lean years as she was a big-name actress in Australia. Jason hooked up with Lisa and the fiance knew nothing about it until Lisa wound up pregnant and Jason broke off the engagement.

      I think it’s amusing that they’re trying to rewrite history but everybody in Baywatch and Stargate Atlantis fandom who knew about Jason knew that he cheated.

  16. Lucy says:

    She seems like such a lovely woman. As opposed to what happens to her with Cosby, I find that there’s a light, calm and peaceful energy around her.

  17. Jaded says:

    I totally understand her comment about a “dark energy” around him. I’ve met many people in my life who seemed to be good, hard-working people but the dark energy that emanated from them was almost palpable….people I’ve worked for, people I’ve been involved with personally. Now that I’m a Reiki practitioner and teacher it comes across even more strongly.

    • Jenn says:

      @Jaded: RIGHT? Just reading her impressions on Cosby makes me want to get the sage out and start smudging (not teasing you, it’s a real instinct)

  18. serena says:

    Love her!! She’s always so freaking beautiful and I’d love to read about her more!

  19. paddingtonjr says:

    She was always my favorite on The Cosby Show and A Different World. Even back then, she seemed to be comfortable with who she was and was living her life for her. I may have questioned some of her decisions, but I admire her for being strong enough to go against type and take chances. She proves the adage that living well is the best revenge!

  20. bikki says:

    wahhh! I love her – she’s definitely #goals <3 what an incredible woman – she's living the life she wants to live

  21. NYC_girl says:

    I will always remember the time I was in an elevator with her. I was with my boyfriend – he shared an apt in a loft building. She was standing right next to me holding her daughter – it was 1990. She got off and was greeted by the people in the apt – I think the elevators opened into each space. When the doors closed he said to me, “That was Lisa Bonet!” She had a scarf and glasses on so I didn’t recognize her, despite hearing her voice. She was my first major girl-crush. Love her!! And Lenny 🙂 It’s funny I remember that but can’t recall what I did last week!