Robert Mueller subpoenaed Russia-related documents from the Trump Org.

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I’m wary of claiming that Donald Trump’s internal and external chaos is connected to any one particular thing. I simply don’t believe Trump is smart enough or lucid enough to truly understand the scope of Robert Mueller’s investigation, and how the walls truly are closing in. But still, it does feel like Trump has been extra shambolic in past weeks, and maybe this is why:

In Jane Mayer’s definitive profile of Christopher Steele, the veteran British spy who compiled a controversial dossier documenting Donald Trump’s alleged ties to Russia, and then some, there’s a curious line attributed to the reclusive agent, who has gone into hiding since his investigative findings have made him the target of Republican recriminations: “It was as if all criminal roads led to Trump Tower,” Steele is quoted saying.

Through the first ten months of his investigation, Robert Mueller’s interest in the headquarters of the Trump Organization seems to have been limited to Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting, alongside Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner, with a motley crew of Russian characters who claimed to have damaging information about Hillary Clinton. But now the special counsel has trained its sights on the business proper: The New York Times reported on Thursday that Mueller has subpoenaed Russia-related documents from the organization — which may include everything from emails to visitor logs to financial records to contracts the company entered into, all going back several years.

The Times doesn’t specify the breadth of the subpoena, but it wouldn’t be surprising if Mueller is interested in specific sensitive records related to Trump’s long-held desire to grow his real-estate empire in Moscow. Mueller’s team has already asked witnesses about those plans — among them Felix Sater, an estranged Trump associate who knows better than most about the president’s interest in Russia. “First thing I plan to do when Trump leaves office, whether it’s next week, in 2020 or four years later, is march right into his office and say, ‘Let’s build Trump Moscow,’” Sater told BuzzFeed News recently.

[From New York Magazine]

The only thing that surprises me is that Mueller hadn’t already subpoenaed those kinds of documents, because it was clear from the witnesses Mueller had already interviewed that Mueller was targeting Trump Org’s business relationships within Russia. And honestly, it’s all connected – Trump Org was connected to the Trump campaign, and both were connected to Russia. What I’m trying to figure out is if the current, real-time shambles is connected to Mueller. Yes, Trump is firing his National Security Adviser, and he’s doing it in the most shambolic way:

President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser and is actively discussing potential replacements, according to five people with knowledge of the plans, preparing to deliver yet another jolt to the senior ranks of his administration. Trump is now comfortable with ousting McMaster, with whom he never personally gelled, but is willing to take time executing the move because he wants to ensure both that the three-star Army general is not humiliated and that there is a strong successor lined up, these people said.

The turbulence is part of a broader potential shake-up under consideration by Trump that is likely to include senior officials at the White House, where staffers are gripped by fear and un­certainty as they await the next move from an impulsive president who enjoys stoking conflict.

For all of the evident disorder, Trump feels emboldened, advisers said — buoyed by what he views as triumphant decisions last week to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum and to agree to meet with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. The president is enjoying the process of assessing his team and making changes, tightening his inner circle to those he considers survivors and who respect his unconventional style, one senior White House official said.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders pushed back late Thursday on Twitter: “Just spoke @POTUS and Gen H.R. McMaster. Contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.”

Before The Washington Post report was published, a White House spokesperson checked with several senior White House officials and did not dispute that the president had made a decision. White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly — who has personally been eager to see McMaster go —has also told White House staff in recent days that Trump had made up his mind about ousting McMaster.

And on Thursday, Trump signaled that more personnel moves were likely. “There will always be change,” the president told reporters. “And I think you want to see change. I want to also see different ideas.”

[From The Washington Post]

“There will always be change.” There will always be chaos. There will always be a Fuhrer Trump. There will always be indignity. There will always be racism and white supremacy. There will always be a swamp.

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  1. Astrid says:

    Go Mueller!

    • Ankhel says:

      Indeed. I am filled with a less than helpful and appropriate urge – to send the man pies, hot water bottles and knitted socks. Take care of yourself, Mueller.

  2. Maya says:

    Happy early Easter – Mueller and democracy will resurrect soon…

  3. Rapunzel says:

    Imagine if HRC had an administration this chaotic. Imagine if Hillary was firing her SecState by tweet. Imagine the FoxNews chyrons. The GOP normalizing this is hypocrisy at its finest. God, I hate these a-holes.

    Muller’s subpoenas mean Money laundering and RICO. Go get ’em, Bob.

    • Elkie says:

      It’s OK if you’re Republican.

      It’s OK if you’re Evangelical.

      It’s OK if you’re rich.

      It’s OK if you’re a mediocre white male.

      It’s OK if you’ve unburdened yourself of the capacity to feel guilt or shame.

      Although I do like that line about not wanting to humiliate McMaster, given that the guy’s credibility was shot to pieces the moment that he agreed to be sent out to lie to the press before Trump immediately contradicted him over the passing on over secret intel….

      • holly hobby says:

        I’m giving McMaster some credit. At least he went on his own to give Russia the double bird salute. I think that’s why Orangino wants to get rid of him. Because he is not a silent puppet.

    • Esmom says:

      It’s not possible to imagine because we know she knew what she was doing. But I get your point. Sigh.

      I love how the article calls this latest drama “turbulence.” As if we’re not all plunging to the earth from 30,000 feet at an alarming rate of speed.

    • lightpurple says:

      I understand what you’re getting at but, and I say this all over Twitter, can we all just stop with the imagining of what if Hillary did this or what if Obama did this? It isn’t a competition, they aren’t the only point of reference, and it just leads to the Trumpets throwing all sorts of crap at Hillary and Obama. The point I’m making is that NO president has ever done this crap. NO OTHER PRESIDENT OUT OF THE PREVIOUS 44 HAS EVER PULLED THIS CRAP. Why is THIS one being allowed to get away with it? And that’s what needs to be emphasized, no president, republican or democrat, has ever done these horrible things.

      • Claire says:

        They’re all cut from the same cloth. Some just have a softer/nicer delivery. To think otherwise is naive.

    • jwoolman says:

      It was said long ago that one of the two Virginia grand juries was focusing on RICO.

      I think the subpoena now is because they’ve gone as far as they could with voluntary compliance. I don’t think the investigation of Trump Organization is a new wrinkle.

  4. Eric says:

    Emperor Zero? Have anything to say about Mr Mueller crossing that Red Line?

    Happy Ides of March yesterday, Orange Julius Caesar!

    It’s Mueller Time!

    • jwoolman says:

      The naked emperor doesn’t seem to understand how a special counsel works. Mueller is authorized to follow any trail he finds indicating criminal activity. He is not limited to the Russian interference investigation. I’m sure they got a whiff of Trump’s long-time money laundering long before the investigation started. So all of Trump’s financials and business interactions are within the scope of the investigation and always have been.

  5. Juliette says:

    And on the Ides of March no less.

  6. Clare says:

    ok, possible naive question – but won’t they have had time to hide a bunch of the bodies by now?

    • Frida says:

      If they were smart they’d have been doing it all along. But these are the same people who saved email exchanges from Don Jr. saying he’s super excited to work with Russia.

      I do however think that’s the reason Bob didn’t simply request the docs and skipped ahead to a subpoena. I read that if/when Trump fires him, the weight of the subpoena will keep the files in the FBI’s hands and not “lost” in the shuffle.

    • Betsy says:

      From what I can glean from lawyers and folk on twitter, you only subpoena when you already have it. Trump Org will “comply” and the extent to which they comply – i.e., what they try to conceal – determines more charges of obstruction, etc. Sater is alleged to have flipped, Nader flipped, Hicks and Bannon may have flipped….

    • lightpurple says:

      They probably have what they’re asking for already. Or they have a very good idea of its existence. The FBI probably obtained all telephone and internet records from the service providers long ago so they know who was contacting whom.

      • jwoolman says:

        The problem with e-mail is that there is always a recipient. And some of them do full backups occasionally. Anyway, if you edit down your e-mail, the odds are that the investigators will know it just from other records they have.

        I don’t know how long isp’s might archive deleted e-mail, though. But people with really large hard disks today might rarely delete from their local storage and from the server. I forward all my client e-mail to a yahoo account for easy access in a crisis or on another computer as well as backup in case I have to outrun a tornado, and that account has such a high limit that I hardly ever think to delete any of it. So it goes back years.

    • Lilith says:

      A good prosecutor (and mueller appears to be a great one) would already posses all of the documents he is asking the the Trump Organization for.
      He has already gathered what he needs from interviews and sources. He is baiting the Trump folks, because if they attempt to lie, delete or otherwise destroy what he knows they have, then he’s got them for obstruction of justice/perjury.
      Mueller is doing a masterful job slowly chipping away at trumps circle of criminals.

  7. boredblond says:

    Good luck getting them..they never repaid NYC for a deal, claiming the paperwork had somehow been destroyed..they’ve buried/destroyed more evidence of shady deals than we can imagine.

    • lilophyllo says:

      I feel the same way. It seems there are many stories, but very little hard proof. It’s like the claims go only so far, then get dropped away for absurd reasons.

    • Juls says:

      I’ve had the same thoughts/concerns. My theory is that Bobby doesn’t need them and/or has already obtained what he needs. I think he’s toying with Trump: a) he wants to catch Trump refusing to comply and lying b) he’s goading Trump into trying to get rid of him so he can drop the hammer.
      Mueller is methodical and every move he makes is for a reason. Trump is standing in quicksand and is too stupid and arrogant to realize it until he’s up to his neck and it’s too late.

    • holly hobby says:

      The thing about subpoenas is that once it’s issued, all items listed cannot be destroyed. They have to come up with it. It’s illegal to destroy subpoenaed items. I read that from one of the legal twitter feeds.

  8. Shappalled says:

    I was watching a current affairs show tonight and one pundit said ‘Donald Trump is prepared to say mean and nasty things about anyone in the world except Vladimir Putin. I think there’s something behind that.’

  9. B n A fn says:

    I’m thinking Mueller has all the info he’s asking for. Mr Mueller can get the courts to give him permission to break in their computer etc. I believe he’s giving the dotard a chance to come clean.

    Btw, this morning on morning joe Stormy Daniels lawyers says she was threatened by the dotard people with physical body injury. I bet Mr Mueller will be following up on the dotard’s crime family threats. It’s going to be a hot summer this year.

    • Frida says:

      I still believe that Women will take him down before Mueller finishes his investigation. He can’t be immune to the Time’s Up movement for much longer.

      • Christin says:

        I’m thinking that it will be women and related payoffs. A lawyer who claims he covered his client’s hush money payment via a home equity advance, days before the election?

      • NeoCleo says:

        By any means necessary. HOWEVER, the thought of a woman destroying him is just delicious.

    • jwoolman says:

      The lawyer was pretty clear about the threats also. When someone phrased a question as “she felt physically threatened …, ” he corrected it to say it was not a matter of just feeling threatened – she actually was physically threatened. Apparently the details will be revealed in the 60 Minutes interview.

      I hope Stormy has been wired for sound, unless they were stupid enough to put it in writing.

  10. Nicegirl says:

    It’s almost Mueller time, then? I am so trying to keep the faith

    • Tiny Martian says:

      I don’t think Mueller time is going to save anyone, to be honest. Mueller definitely has pretty much everything he needs on Trump, but Putin is working fast, and the damage is already done. With Russians gaining access to US power grids and attacking all infrastructure from aviation to water processing plants, America is a sitting duck. Trump is a useless, easily manipulated fool, which is why Putin had him elected in the first place. The US has way bigger problems to worry about than the Trump family’s corruption at this point.

      Honestly, I am shocked by how I keep hearing Americans asking “when is (fill in the blank) going to do something about this?”, while they wait for their politicians and legal system to save them. The US used to be a global symbol of democracy: it is up to the people to take charge, that is how a democracy works.

      But now that system is broken. I have no idea why Americans haven’t taken to the streets long before now, instead of sitting there like lambs to the slaughter.

      • Betsy says:

        Gee. Thanks.

      • NeoCleo says:

        We have taken to the streets. You’re not paying attention.

      • Ankhel says:

        While it’s true that Americans have taken to the streets lately, I think a lot of foreigners have a somewhat different idea of what that entails.

      • Shappalled says:

        I don’t think Trump is going to cope once the GOP loses the Senate and he can’t put through anything he wants. However I think he’ll put off building the wall until after the mid terms so he can blame the Democrats for blocking it.

    • Skippy says:

      This!!!

  11. Digital Unicorn says:

    Given this I has coincided with Jr divorce announcement and the rumours that Jarvanka is about to get busted for money laundering in NY the dirty con family/wannabe gangsters are running scared doing what they can to protect assets.

    I foresee Jared and Ivanka getting divorced.

  12. jwoolman says:

    One of the complaints President Tweeter has about McMaster is that he gives briefings that are “too long”. Yeah, if you have the attention span of a gnat.

    Junior Cat of the feline staff officially turned 1 on her arbitrarily assigned birthday, the Ides of March. No party, but I let her help me clean out the litter boxes. She found that quite exciting.

    I hereby promise that I will never fire anyone on my feline staff, no matter how long their briefings on the rodent situation are. They are cats and therefore assumed to be more competent than me about such matters. Trump needs to come to a similar realization about his staff.

    • Ankhel says:

      This is adorable!

    • Christin says:

      Attention span of a gnat is exactly what his ghostwriter observed about him years ago.

      And, everyone with a feline staff, give them all a hug. I lost my sweet cat-boy this week, too young and rather quickly. I took for granted he’d be on staff for several more years.

      • Lady D says:

        I’m sorry, Christin. I know that hurts.

      • Christin says:

        Thank you, Lady D. Part of the journey, I guess…

      • jwoolman says:

        Christin- so sorry to hear of your loss. Junior Cat joined our staff to fill an opening left by the previous Senior Cat, who left us last summer after a relatively brief illness. At least he had the longest run of anybody else ever on staff – he was at least 19. Skinny but happy until near the end.

        I have to keep reminding myself that it’s the totality of their lives that matters, not the final days. So remember all the good times with your friend.