Kim Kardashian is standing by her man, but it’s difficult because he’s so ‘manic’

Kim Kardashian and Kanye West out for dinner at Craig's restaurant

Kanye West is canceled. I don’t even give a sh-t. But I do give a sh-t about whether Kim Kardashian will divorce him. That’s the question on everyone’s minds these days, right? As I’ve said before, I believe Kim was seriously considering divorce during his breakdown in late 2016. People Magazine’s sources even said as much – that she was talking to some lawyers, that she wasn’t happy with Kanye and she wanted him to calm down or else she would walk. He did calm down for a year. They welcomed a third child via gestational carrier. Everything seemed peaceful. But now that Kanye is flying his Deplorable Freak Flag, Kim is doing all she can to deflect, distract and distance herself from Kanye’s messiness.

Kim is apparently concerned that people will associate her with Kanye’s Deplorable and ignorant political thoughts. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg – what if Kanye’s brand can never bounce back? What if Kim’s brand is affected by Kanye’s ignorance? Well, for now, the official word is that Kim is sticking by him.

Kim Kardashian West is standing by her man — but still concerned about his recent outbursts. A source tells PEOPLE that the reality star, 37, is doing her best to protect husband Kanye West since the rapper, 40, made controversial remarks on Twitter and in new interviews over the past week.

“Kanye is the most amazing person when he’s not acting like this. But when he gets manic, it’s really hard for everyone around him,” the insider says. “Kim is absolutely worried about him right now, but she will defend him publicly to the end. She’s a very loyal wife, and her tweets and everything she’s been saying is definitely very calculated to help Kanye.”

Many people close to the rapper told PEOPLE that his private behavior has also been cause for concern. According to several sources, West has cut off contact with many members of his inner circle, including his managers, lawyers and closest friends — and he’s also had multiple arguments with his mother-in-law Kris Jenner. However, another insider said that “Kanye and Kris have never had a fight,” adding, “Just because Kanye is having a strong opinion does not mean that he is mentally ill or headed for a breakdown. It’s unfair.”

[From People]

Oh so now we’re allowed to use a clinical term like “manic” to describe Kanye? I thought Kim’s Twitter screed was all about how we shouldn’t behave like armchair shrinks and diagnose Kanye with bipolar disorder. Well, have it: he’s manic AF right now. Kanye confirmed to Charlamagne Tha God in an interview this week that he’s currently being medicated BUT he’s not seeing a therapist. Then what are his medications??

As for Kim standin’ by her man… she’ll stand by him until she doesn’t. You know what I mean? Right now she’s standing by him. Right now she’s “protecting her family.” Right now she’s being a “supportive wife.” Then at some point, she’ll have to protect her family – and her brand – FROM Kanye.

Tammy Wynette, y’all.

Kim and Kourtney Kardashian do lunch with mother Kris Jenner at Carousel

Kanye West heads to the office after the birth of his third child in Calabasas, CA

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  1. Kitty says:

    Didn’t he say on tmz that he was supposed to take three pills a day but actually only takes one a week

    • Yup says:

      Sounds like he doesnt understand how meds work then.

    • MCV says:

      TMZ is trying to save him after the whole “slavery was a choice” mess. Even if he’s not going hiss pills what he is doing has 0 justification.

      • Kitty says:

        This has been his MO for years, new album coming, go out and talk like a crazy person about the things most in the news these days. Trump, race, he even brought up parkland survivors. Kanye is a narcissistic fame whore who’s not against throwing his entire race under the bus to get radio time and sell albums. He’s a joke

      • Mmmo says:

        He’s a bookcase example of delusions of grandeur. He’s also just alienated a big portion of his fanbase by showing support for a racist misogynist. There are better ways of getting headlines before your album drops. I really don’t think he’s planning or faking it. There’s no intelligent thought behind this mess.

    • Baby Got Back Fat says:

      Yeah, that was part of the interview excerpted on another site. He also said that during his hospitalization he woke up and thought everyone was trying to kill him

  2. DP says:

    She’ll stay with him as long as it gets her attention. Then when people stop caring, she’ll leave him to get more attention.

    • PoodleMama says:

      I also think the other difference is that it will be much harder for her to upgrade to someone better when she leaves Kanye than it was when she left Kris Humphries. I think Kanye is the only A lister she has ever managed to date. Add to that that this time around she will be older and have three kids with this toxic narcissist and it’s pretty much a given she won’t be able to trade up.

      • Mmmo says:

        @Poodlemama
        Bingo. He’s made her *somewhat* legitimate. She’s not a sex-tape reality tv famewh@ now, she’s a wife of an A-list musician and a mother to his children. She’s not gonna find anyone of his caliber willing to get involved with the Klan – no one’s image has ever benefited from being associated with them. Kanye is just reckless. Other than his, there isn’t a line of hot, dateable famous guys waiting to get with Kim. For a night, maybe. But marrying her and raising her kids? Nope.

        I believe Bey & Jay are in a similar spot. Their relationship is complete fiction but Bey’s not gonna downgrade to some f@ckboi.

      • jwoolman says:

        I don’t know why Kim even needs to be connected with a man. I don’t get sexually needy vibes from her, I suspect she can take it or leave it but just likes the attention from playing “sexy” in front of cameras. She would be fine on her own.

        She’s stuck forever connected with Kanye because of the kids, though. I just hope she stays firmly connected with Kanye’s family regardless because those kids are going to need guidance on being black in America and Kim hasn’t a clue. She thinks everybody can just be “colorblind” and it’s all good.

        Kanye is no help and probably is the real source of Kim’s cluelessness on race in these United States. He’s as delusional as she is about it at least when he’s manic. Which he is going to stay if he thinks one dose of his meds per week is enough instead of the prescribed three daily doses. This is pretty good evidence against the theory that he was hospitalized for opioid addiction. He has other problems that the medication helps stabilize.

    • minx says:

      Exactly what I was going to say. She’ll play the concerned wife for awhile and but eventually dump him.

    • Yellowrocket says:

      She will never leave him when he is this ‘manic’ and truthful. He would spill ALL the tea.

      He’s already admitted opiate abuse in his tweets, imagine the secrets he has on the K-Klan. If she makes him mad when he’s this vocal, he will burn them to the ground.

      • Shark Bait says:

        I know this is terrible, and if he is mentally ill I’d want him to get the help he needs, but I’d kind of love for him to spill that truckload of tea.

      • Skoochy says:

        Oooh! Good point!

      • sabina says:

        Yellowrocket: Never thought of that! He could probably blackmail her for a lot, if he chose…All those murky Kardashian secrets, exposed…

  3. Yup says:

    She said something like “when he is tweeting and talking like this he is actually out of his dark place”. I immediately though DUH- and straight into manic phase, because he seems bipolar to me.

    • BlueSky says:

      @ yup agreed. I said as much yesterday and got dragged for armchair diagnosing him.

      • Yup says:

        I dont know if we deserve being dragged for mentioning the obvious. Kim said he had dark periods, now manic, he said he should be taking his drugs, seems pretty obvious to me. Not hating those with bipolar, but it seems like Kanye needs a little help.

      • Shark Bait says:

        Way back in college my professor for my Abnormal Psych class said it was always dangerous for people like Dr. Drew and Dr. Phil to diagnose a celeb on entertainment shows and said she would never diagnose a person like that. I think this was after someone asked her what her opinion was about a certain celeb’s mental health. So for a professional to go on tv and diagnose is pretty harmful and dangerous (or I guess for a high profile person to tweet it) but for us to speculate, it’s only human nature. Either he has a mental illness or he’s a jerk doing this for attention. Those seem like the only reasonable options at this point. I honestly don’t know since I’m not someone close to him, but I really hope that a non narcissist has his back somewhere. Those poor kids caught in the middle.

      • Kloops says:

        The hypocrisy is always strange to me. Especially when it comes via a gossip website which is clearly not a news site run by journalists. It’s all speculation based on observable behavior, images and (often!) anonymous sources from which we really don’t have anything objective at all, but those quotes are still published. I think there are also adjectives that have crossed over from clinical terms into commonly used descriptor. Obviously the public is not held to the same standards as medical professionals. Describing a behavior as manic is not the same as declaring someone bi-polar but I think speculation is part and parcel of a gossip website. I think it’s a lot harsher to cancel someone who may or may not have mental illness than drag the posters who speculate a possible organic root for what is unusual and distressing behavior. I imagine when he’s like this it’s tough for his whole family. Dang it. I loathe the Kardashians but I feel for them right now.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Keep in mind the “manic” comment is not a direct quote from Kim. It is supposedly what an “insider” said to a tabloid.

        He said he takes medication, but there are other conditions which require medication. He could have anxiety or depression, not bipolar, etc. He could have high blood pressure. It could be a supplement.

        While he COULD be struggling with mental health issues, I think it is best if we don’t talk as if everything is cut and dry. We might suspect things, but we do not know things with certainty.

  4. OSTONE says:

    She will stand by him until it starts hurting the bottom line, which is money. When Kanye stops being profitable, he will be discarded. Kanye legitimized the Kardashian brand and opened doors for them that wouldn’t be opened otherwise (the MET gala, the vogue cover, “acceptance” A listers etc) at this point, the kardashians are rich, famous and successful at various ventures, if Kanye gets in the way more, single mom Kim will be her next reinvention.

    • Pandy says:

      I do agree with you OSTONE … except I’m not sure she’s not already looking for the next replacement rather than being single again.

      • Sophia's side eye says:

        That won’t be so easy, she has three kids with a narcissist. Anyone involved with Kim would have zero privacy. Only famewhores will sign up for that life. We just saw how that turned out for Khloe.

  5. Ally says:

    Are they even living together yet? That beige cave of his doesn’t look like it would welcome kids’ toys into the color scheme.

    How is he “amazing” as a family member other than his behavior being consistently astonishingly dopey? I’ve never seen video or a photo where these two act normal or affectionate. They just seem symbiotic in their life-as-performance-schtick and ego-massaging (and plastic surgery, evidently).

    • MCV says:

      I read somewhere that they don’t live together, they have some kind of arrangement.

    • Shark Bait says:

      Have you seen the before and after pictures of that house? All that money to look like they live in a mausoleum.

      • Chaine says:

        from what i saw there were no pictures on the walls, no decorations, just white/beige walls and white/beige furniture. it looked so depressing, and why would you have all that white furniture around small children!

      • Katie says:

        It does look church-y. I’m sure the kids will day have plenty of play rooms and there are spaces that feel more lived in than the few hallways and conference room he shared.

  6. Nicole says:

    She’ll dump him as soon as it’s no longer beneficial for her. Men are disposable to their brand.
    And no you still shouldn’t armchair diagnose people. Not sure why people would ever want to…diagnostics is a pain esp with the new manual.

    • Shark Bait says:

      Nicole, I agree with you about the armchair diagnosing. I know it’s human nature but I remember clearly one of my college professors who was also a psychiatrist saying no one should ever diagnose a person they had not treated or spoken to. She was referring to people like Dr. Phil and Dr. Drew going on entertainment shows and armchair diagnosing a celebrity. Sure we can speculate, but no one really knows for sure because none of us actually no him. Either way it’s a bad situation (as in he’s purposely trolling or he’s actually sick).

      • Nicole says:

        Yea its dangerous. Yesterday I said the same thing and clearly someone felt the need to tell me I wasn’t good at my job because i didn’t want to diagnose a celebrity i’ve never seen professionally.
        Your professor is right. And yes something is going on but its not for me to know but I do help he gets SOME help (whatever that is)

    • sunnydaze says:

      THIS. I don’t think people truly understand that when we use terms like “bipolar” or “OCD” we are actually referring to a set of diagnostic criteria that has (hopefully, though not always or even most of the time) has been thoroughly thought through taking into account medical, social, cultural, cognitive, etc. factors. AND you can’t just pick the most well-known symptom and say “a ha!” – no, you have to meet several. Not to mention the DSM-V (well, DSM whatever version, even the ICD is biased) is heavily reflective of western culture and European presentations. I often ask my clients who call themselves “bipolar” or whatever what they know about that specific diagnosis…(because as most clinicians know that’s just a broad term for a set of characteristics). Most people have no clue and are horrified when I pull out the manual to show them – especially if they received the dx from someone who met with them for a few minutes during a crisis. We are essentially seeing brief clips of him behaving erratically, saying things that are provocative and problematic. But those in and of themselves do not a diagnosis make. It’s also really insulting to the mental health profession that people seem to think it’s this easy – proper diagnosing is extremely difficult and, even when insurance demands something to bill for, professionals have to do their best to weed out all the differential diagnoses.

  7. MCV says:

    I don’t see her divorcing him. He saved them for irrelevancy back then when all the kris humphries drama, he gave them a kind of validation so who is she going to go after him? No one respectable would we associated with that family anymore. I jus’t dont see it.

  8. SM says:

    Just like we widely discussed it yesterday, he may be mentaly ill but I highly doubt that mental illness leads to statements like slavery was a choice. Sounds like a statemenent of a delussional, uneducated racist. So this pr stunt dropping casually such words as manic and mental health is not going to help the situation. I don’t care for him and I really do hopep that his brand and his carrer suffers for that. Just like he thinks slavery is a choice, he should also undersand this whole mess is his choice too. I can’t wait to see him try the argument social inequality and being poor is a choice when he himself is at the bottom

    • Kitty says:

      I don’t know about Kanye saying that because he’s a racist, I think it’s more about his privilege. He’s never had to struggle much like most black people do in America, he doesn’t experience much racism so he probably thinks other people don’t either. I don’t think Kanye can think much past himself

      • bex says:

        Well said!

      • SM says:

        You’re probably right. Which again just proves this is not some mental illness talking. He is ignorant and arogant and hence this behaviour should not come as a surprise.

      • Nicole says:

        We discussed that part of this is also some people believe they need to pander to whiteness to be rich and successful. It often leads to shenanigans like this

      • Umyeah says:

        Well said Kitty.

      • Katie says:

        I agree. He’s priviledged and narcissistic and he cannot empathise with ppl who’ve had a different experience than he has. This makes him extremely unrelatable and tone deaf because he has not had a typical life experience.
        I don’t think it’s an issue of wanting white people to like him. The causes he’s currently fighting for are disagreeable with most educated and wealthy white people. In general, this is obviously an unpopular stance in the current climate.
        On the opposite end of the spectrum, Beyonce is perhaps at her highest level celebrity and influence right now, after starting to speak more about black culture. If Kanye was saying things from a strategic standpoint, he’d be saying the opposite of what he’s saying. He always has to be different though and he’s never been very strategic. He doesn’t have control… He just spits out whatever he’s thinking at the time. He’s always looking for the different/opposite/weird. He’s made powerful statements before and I’ve had his back, but this is just stupid. It’s sad… I think he’s really lost it. I do think he has a bit of genius in him, but he has no tilter for what is good and bad. In the past it’s been bad fashion taste or art taste, but now it’s bad ethics and morals… He’s gone off the deep end with this one and I wonder if he can come back from this.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Well said, Kitty.

  9. choop says:

    But she said last week on Twitter that he wasn’t having a manic episode, that he was just expressing himself.

    And mental health isue doesn’t make you have revisionnist comments.

  10. The Traveling Emergency says:

    The biggest loser out of this is Chachi.

  11. K says:

    I thought her comment about “it’s not fair to call him mentally ill” was stupid. I thought it was a confirmed diagnosis that he’s bipolar. He’s having an episode. Doesn’t it sound better to say “he’s saying these things and acting this way because he’s sick right now,” than “don’t judge Kanye he’s an artist?” Also, for anyone who’s ever known someone with bipolar disorder, doesn’t it seem like he’s having a manic episode? That said, I don’t care about Kanye or anything he says. I know some do though.

    • MousyB says:

      He was literally put on a 5150 hold 18 months ago…the mentally ill issues are not coming out of nowhere/we’re not armchair psychologists here. I really hate how much they undermine our intelligence and how many people fall for their crap.

    • Shannon says:

      I have it, and I can’t diagnose Kanye any better than anyone else for sure – but it does seem like it to me. When I have (relatively mild) manic episodes, I can barely shut up. Then, the pendulum swings and I don’t feel like talking to people, I just want to be quiet. But my basic beliefs – political and otherwise – don’t change. I think he’s stirring the pot trying to get attention, but he went way to far. To meet with the president and say you don’t hate him is one thing; to go full-on, signed MAGA hat and say slavery was a choice? He really took it too far, I gotta think it’s gonna hurt his brand big time.

      • Catriona Maioi says:

        I hope it hurts his brand. He deserves it. But these days, who the hell knows? He’s coonin, we’re hatin.

      • Say what says:

        I have bipolar 2, which is essentially mostly long and short period of mild ormsometimes eventually sever depression punctuated with occasionsl periods of hypomania cyclicly. . Hypomania is what I called a less intense form of mania, withiout the psychotic breaks from reality that Thise with bipolar 1 experience. Poor judgment and destructive behaviour accompany both 1 and 2 hupomania and mania. Mania manifests as more instense, with grandiose behaviour sliding into delusion and breaks from reality.

        With hyomania, my overexcited nervous system make me feel anxious or feel compelled to non stop talk, I may be super funny and charming to be around. Ill have big ideas – often great but big/inspiring. Thinking up clever of fun or inspiring ideas and plans. I am productive, focused and on the ball. Speedy. Reliable. Fun to be around .

        Eventually this will turn to overstimulation/ sensory bombardment and too much energy to handle. Anxiety and stress kick inside . have racing, repetitive worried. negative thoughts. I’ll have difficulty slowing down to reflect and make calm effective choices. I can’t priority set very well. Maybe I’ll do impulsive things like spend too much on fun or unneeded things- no budget. ,I’ll go from irritable to argumentative and l can’t stop. I’ll itsje on too much of all these amzazing projects, some deliberable, some with grandiose sense of what can actually be delivered … or I’ll impulsively overspend, or let laundry and mess build up beyond what I’m comfortable with. I won’t time manage well and will orocrastinate on top priorities due to anxiety and sensory overload. My concentration becomes poor and I need timeout to meditate and rest and self care like sleep and exercise. .

    • jwoolman says:

      Mania can have various causes, but it’s his behavior that screams manic to me. I’ve seen manic up close and personal and that’s what he is. I felt the same way listening to Charlie Sheen in his Tiger Blood phase. I agree from personal experience with my relative that the basic person and beliefs don’t seem to change with mania, but everything becomes uncontrolled and disjointed and nonproductive.

      In my case, it was a relative I knew well – he had been recently diagnosed as bipolar but was actually unipolar naturally (depression episodes since his teens). The doc gave him some medication to help lift his mood while waiting for the medication to kick in, and that pushed him into the manic part of the spectrum. He seemed happy although not himself at all. Full of grand plans and chattering nonstop. I was worried about him driving in that state. Manic doesn’t mean running around like a stereotypical “crazy person” in the movies. But Kanye talks just like the way my temporarily manic relative did. (He was fine when it wore off and the treatment started to work…. He says that when treated, he still feels normal emotions of glad/sad, they just don’t spiral out of control.)

      Kanye may or may not be bipolar. He probably is dealing more than one issue and is lucky that at least the docs have some drug therapies to try. But he is either manic or doing an amazingly good imitation.

  12. grabbyhands says:

    So she wouldn’t consider leaving him because the hateful rhetoric he’s parroting is a giant slap in the face to his own children and that he is an outrageous egomaniac who puts his own popularity before his family’s safety, but because the spin is reflecting badly on HER in a monetary sense and possibly damaging the brand.

    I hope this backfires right into her plastic face because this honestly makes her look worse, not better. This is all PR damage control because she couldn’t figure out a way to make this seem okay. Let’s face it – if he had toned it down a little more, she would have been just fine with the 45 klan retweeting her and talking about how smart she is. She would have glossed over all the horrible things he’s done and said in exchange for some lucrative press.

    These two deserve each other.

  13. aims says:

    I feel for Kim and this is new for me. I feel for anyone who is having mental health issues and those around them. My mil has some very similar issues as Kanye. The last 20 years has really been difficult for my fil. She’ll take her medication,feel great , then stop because she feels good. Then she starts being erratic and unstable. She goes into the hospital to get back on track and the cycle continues.

    For the longest time I was upset with my FIL, because he didn’t seem to understand the seriousness of the situation. But, if the ill person doesn’t take their medication,you can’t force it down their throats. That’s why mental health issues are so important to be taken seriously. One minute you’re fine the next minute you don’t know if you’re coming or going.

    • The Traveling Emergency says:

      Can’t you crush it up and put in their food? Ah guess not. They’d know.

      • aims says:

        I guess we could. But as soon as she’d figure it out then her paranoia would effect her eating. She would think we’re trying to do something.

      • Lady D says:

        Plus her not knowing she’s taking them would reinforce her notion that she doesn’t need them, making it harder than ever to get them in her.

      • jwoolman says:

        It’s illegal to medicate someone that way. I suppose if you had guardian/power of attorney authority you could make some decisions, and there are exceptions in a medical crisis I guess. But you can’t just sneak the medication into their food or drink. I get away with that for the cats, but wouldn’t with a human…

  14. Karmacoma says:

    Pimp mama Kris is hustling hard to try and make this go away.

    Imagine if this mess somehow brought down the Kardashian klan ✌🏻

  15. bma says:

    Its not that unusual for someone to be medicated but not in therapy (depends on if they need/want therapy). they see a psychiatrist for meds but not a psychologist/therapist. a lot of my clients are medicated but not in active therapy (not arguing its the right thing– just saying its not really unusual).

    i do feel bad for kim. while i think she’s definitely thinking of her brand, i also believe she’s thinking of her kids. her kids, tho technically biracial, will be treated by society as black. i believe that she doesn’t agree with what kanye is saying and i think its a real issue for her that her children are around their dad who says this stuff (whether he believes it or not isn’t relevant) and that they might grow up to believe it as well.

  16. aerohead21 says:

    If she married him as part of the Kardashian brand, ok leave him. If she married him because she loves him then pull back from the brand and focus on family for a bit. It’s not like they don’t have the money.

    And Kanye, there are lots of ways to be antiestablishment than supporting Trump because people least expect it. That’s the kind of argument children make when they don’t fully grasp the consequences of their actions.

    Then again, he supported Trump prior to winning the election, so are we that surprised?

  17. RBC says:

    Kim(and PMK) is being very careful in what she posts on social media in regards to Kanye. If she comes across too aloof and cold, she will be attacked for not caring about her husband and father of her children. On the other hand, if she is too supportive people will assume Kim approves of Kanye’s cozying up to 45 and Maga, and his recent remarks on slavery.
    People were harsh towards Kim when she divorced Kris Humphries after 72 day’s. The Kardashian “brand” was in freefall, it only really rebounded when she met Kanye.
    She(and PMK) will not make the same mistake this time.

  18. Tessa says:

    The only way out of this is if he gets sectioned/ put on hold. Then comes out and apologises snd becomes vocal about Mental health issues.
    But that won’t happen

  19. Play It Again says:

    I don’t believe that anyone related to that family does anything that is not scripted. No controversy is bad as long as it gets people talking about them. It’s just noise that keeps them relevant. They know people will move on to the next “issue” in a few days and then they’ll find another way to hook on to whatever it is to capture Twitter again. Nothing they do is real. Everything anyone who is related to the Kardashians does is calculated. If people ignored all of it, they would disappear.

  20. Babs says:

    I would not stand by him if I were her and truly loved my husband/kids’ father. See, as a french white woman I feel it isn’t my place to Judge the political journey of an American black man from Chicago. Plus, at the end of the day it isn’t my business. But those comments about slavery I cannot get behind and condone this and no one should.

    • Amelie says:

      It has nothing to do with his “political journey.” Whether Kanye is a Trump supporter is not the point. He clearly has no idea what he is talking about and is a huge narcissist with an ego the size of the universe. He’s always complained about not getting prizes at music awards, about certain celebrities not paying attention to him (Jay-Z, Obama), about not getting the recognition he deserves in the fashion world (his clothes are awful and have no style whatsoever). In his mind he is on the same level as Picasso or Da Vinci. He seems to want to do more than he is capable of and it is so hard for him to accept he isn’t a genius. Add to the fact he is most likely not well. He’s already had a breakdown we know of so it isn’t a stretch to say it could happen again.

      • Babs says:

        Wether Kanye is a Trump supporter was totally the point of his cancellation left and right before the TMZ interview. For the rest, you don’t like him and that’s fine, but I fail to see how the size of his ego and how important he thinks he is is even relevant here.

    • Amelie says:

      The size of his ego/his narcissistic personality has everything to do with it. It’s a huge reason of why he is saying he is a Trump supporter/that slavery was a choice. He seems to think he is a genius and whatever he says is groundbreaking when in fact a lot of what he says is riddled with inaccuracies/doesn’t always make sense. The average person doesn’t make those kind of statements. Kanye does not believe he is average–sure, he’s talented musically. But in his mind he’s on par with Bill Gates, the Pope, etc. (and he’s made statements in the past comparing himself to iconic people). Only someone with a huge ego would believe this unless… you have other theories which I am welcome to hear.

  21. Tea says:

    I’m assuming he’s lying about his medication OR his medication is not working and he needs something different. Or he’s back on opiates. I’m a Kanye apologist and this whole thing is hurting my heart, I love his music.
    Medication for mental illness should ALWAYS be supplemented with a therapist or psychologist so you understand the effects on your mood and feelings and so you can discern if your feelings are valid or if they’re the result of your illness. This goes a long way in compliance. I see a cognitive behavioral therapist for bipolar disorder and I think this kind of therapy would really help him. I don’t bog myself down in ‘how I’m feeling’, just behavior modification.

    • Nicegirl says:

      I also see a cognitive behaviour therapist, in addition to taking a medication which helps me with depression and anxiety. I tried counseling without medication as well But this is a better choice for me. I see my MD for the medication, and concerns re side effects, etc and the therapist helps me with my feelings and personal behaviors. I continuously work on responding vs reacting to situations and I’m feeling very positive with the results as of late. It’s hard work though at times and I have had several instances of rescheduling appts, because I’m avoiding the pain/work, not sure. I just know that when I use meds plus therapy as a two pronged approach and stick to it (I have a harder time sticking to the counsel appts when struggling than taking my 1 med daily), I feel and act better.

      Sad about Kanye.

      • BlueSky says:

        @nicegirl thanks for sharing your story. Sounds like you are doing well! I wish more people would be open about struggling with mental health issues. I hope your story helps others in knowing they are not alone.

      • Tea says:

        Exactly-whenever I fall out of step with my therapy and avoid going, it nearly always leads to me going off my meds or, even if I stay on them, not feeling nearly as well and not recognizing it until something awful happens or I feel bad enough to straighten up again. There’s no one size fits all for mental health, but generally it usually always requires hard work. It’s like a second job.

  22. Heat says:

    I really hate to be a Kim apologist but…
    This situation would be really difficult for any spouse. On one hand, you love the person and have a sense of duty and protectiveness to them. On the other hand, you are dealing with all sorts of crazy…correction…manic-ness, with children in the picture. Plus, all Kardashian jokes aside, she does need to think about herself and her own sanity, like any person in this situation would. Ignoring all the ‘brand’ stuff, this situation sounds pretty horrible.

  23. HK9 says:

    When my Mom was having mental health issues, the only way she got help was because she was hospitalized. The doctors (God bless them) made a plan for her and because we’ve got universal health care-the care that was best for her was within reach.

    I can’t imagine what it would be like to manage someone like Kanye. He loves to cut people off and she might be worried that he’ll cut off contact with her too. She also has to worry about what this “looks like” to others. And I’m not sure she’s proactive enough to reach out to the mental health pros that assisted before who helped him. Maybe she has, but I realize she’s in a bad position.

    • Cee says:

      A girl I know went through hell with a mother that was misdiagnosed all the damn time. She was aggressive and a danger to everyone, including herself. When they finally managed to hospitalize her, her doctors were able to assess her bipolar disorder and gave her the exact dose of meds she needs. She’s now healthy, strong and STABLE, and growing a relationship with her daughters.

  24. Anare says:

    Just came on to ask does Kim have another new face? Maybe it’s the tangled grey hair that makes her face look weird. She always has her back swayed and her knees bent to make her butt stick out. Girl is gonna have orthopedic issues down the road.

  25. Jag says:

    I don’t have the money and resources that they have to be able to hide away on a beautiful island while going through my mania, yet I hermit myself enough to not cause problems with my friends and strangers. Yes, I do tend to post more and sometimes can have strong opinions on things, but when I realize that I’m starting to argue and obsess over such things, I take a break from the computer.

    So it surprises me that no one in Kanye’s life is able to convince him to go on vacation or to go do something to distract himself which won’t endanger his brand or the family’s brand. I don’t have such high stakes involved, so it’s crazy that they aren’t doing more to keep him away from the public until his neurotransmitters start acting better. (For some people, that can take a while. My dad is mostly manic and my mom was so depressed that she was diagnosed as unipolar depressive, when in reality, she was bipolar, too.)

    • Lithe says:

      THIS!

      Kim and his handlers should have a plan to sequester Kanye when he starts showing signs of going off the rails.

      Unpopular opinion but I truly feel sorry for him because for all his money, he doesn’t have the proper support system in place. As for the things he’s been saying, I don’t give credence to psychotic ravings. If I did, I would never speak to my father. When he’s having one of his episodes, I let what he says go in one ear and out the other, and trust that when the episode is over, I’ll have my father back again.

      Although Kanye is saying all these things in public, it feels to me like listening to and dissecting what he says when he’s so vulnerable is, in a way, an invasion of his privacy. So, the people who are in a rush to distance themselves from him and denounce him are not earning my respect—quite the opposite.

      (Running for cover now.)

  26. mela says:

    when was the liposuction and the opiate addiction? when was he hospitalized as 5150? i don’t see a timeline here

  27. nikzilla says:

    she is currently planning her exit strategy.

  28. Tess says:

    Ok well if she and he both deny that there’s any mental instability going on, then he’s revealing himself to be a massive out of touch ahole under the guise of “I’m a free thinker and genius and you just don’t get it”. Because that’s it, he’s either a massive ahole who will betray his entire race and fan base, or he’s having very serious mental issues, or both, and his black culture appropriating and fetishizing wife is just backing him up because “free speech”.

  29. Cee says:

    She’s a mother so I 100% believe she will dump his ass the moment he becomes a liability and a threat. If he’s not medicated, or takes his meds however he likes, he is unbalanced and unbalanced people, depending on the illness*, can become dangerous.

    * not all illnesses are alike.

  30. The Original G says:

    I’ve got nothing but empathy for families dealing with potential mental illness. Add the vicissitudes of fame and million dollar interest on the line and I’m sure it’s quite complicated. Time will tell. Erring on the side of compassion is usually never the wrong way to go.

  31. Jess says:

    Kanye is a female version of Azealia Banks. Unquestionably talented but nuts 🙁

  32. Lindsey says:

    If he’s bipolar, we can’t hold things he does while manic against him. He’s not himself. It’s a disease and should be treated as such. That said, it may be that he’s deplorable while not manic too. Then, cancel away.

    I can totally understand KIM making the decision that it’s not right for her or her kids to stay with him.

    • Yathink says:

      That’s not true at all. No mental health professional would ever tell anyone that you have to write off anything anyone says or does during a manic phase. Some things are done *because* of mental impairment some things are just done by people who happen to have a mental illness. Having a mental illness is not a catch all for shitty behaviour.

  33. WhoMe? says:

    Man, people are… I don’t know the word? But still adding to the judgement, stigma and fear of mental illness? Like medications is the easy fix “crush it up and feed it” “sequester them away”, unmm society has done that in the past. Institutionalized people suffering from mental illness, taking away their dignity, human rights and lives. It does not work.
    I always wondered if it was hard for Kanye to admit or be diagnosed being a black male rapper in hip hop.
    Also, living with someone with mental illness is like living in a constant state of anxiety. So I feel for Kim! 100% feel for her. You want to be supportive, but have to protect yourself and others. You love them, but they are irrational and at worst angry. Like it’s not just her brand, it’s her day to day.

  34. FLORC says:

    Anyone else read the Twitter white guy in the black barbershop take on kanye? Yea. That’s all I can agree with now. Cancel them all. No more attention. Burst the bubble. Best way to end them is to ignore.

  35. Aubrey says:

    I think Kim and Kanye do not have art in their home because it appears on the show and they do not want to get robbed again.

  36. A says:

    Kanye said he was diagnosed eith bipolar when he was a child or teen so he already had been diagnosed but is rejecting it.
    He said at TMZ that he was prescribed multiple pills per day by doctors but takes only one a week. So he is off his meds or extremely erratically taking them.
    Sad to do it publically though.

  37. CairinaCat says:

    so far kardashian wives/women tend to ruin their husbands/men one way or another.
    Scott disick didn’t develop and likely never will.
    Omar is worse off as well.
    Rob is ruined by his sisters and their way of treating him. Blac Chyna didn’t help but made things worse, I would name her an honorary Kardashian.
    Now it is Kanye. When dropping him will get them better headlines and bigger audiences than keeping him then they will drop him.

    • Yathink says:

      Yeah all those poor man babies. They can’t be blamed for their own terrible decisions and behaviour. Must be witches.

  38. kate says:

    OTOH kummode, if he wasn’t manic he wouldn’t be with you.

  39. Harry Henderson says:

    Because someone has a different opinion, or an unpopular opinion, or a political viewpoint that differs from yours, it does not automatically make it ignorant. He’s more sane than he’s ever been. Middle finger in the air to everyone who keeps their mouth shut for fear of being called ignorant.