Jada Pinkett Smith has been doing her Red Table Talks on Facebook with her mom, Adrienne, and children, Willow, 17, and Jaden, 19. In the last episode they were talking about parenting and the fact that Jaden wanted to be emancipated at age 15, which Jada agreed to do. She reasoned that Jaden was 15, that it was time and that he would come back anyway, which I guess he did. Willow seemed really pained to be talking about all of that. She also discussed the “Whip My Hair” era and how she didn’t want to be famous.
The latest episode of Jada’s family talkshow is much more candid. Adrienne, Willow, and Willow’s best friend, Telana, were there and the episode was about sex. Jada sounded like she was just saying things for shock value, frankly. I also think it was unfair, like the last couple of episodes I saw with Willow, to have her on the show and to air her reactions. She’s been clear about not wanting to be famous, but for what it’s worth she’s showing up for her mom and participating. She even opened up about her body image struggles in a recent episode. Here’s some of what was said and you can see the episode here.
Jada asks Willow and Telana how they learned about sex
Jada: I know a lot of young boys and girls are learning about sex through pornography online and through social media. Was that not your introduction to sex?Willow: My introduction to sex was obviously walking in on you and daddy. I saw for a little moment and I ran away. I was like ‘oh my god this is so crazy, what did I just see?’ It wasn’t like I was seeing everything, the room was dark. [Jada was surprised and didn’t remember this.]
Jada knew when her boys lost their virginity
Jada: I knew when [Jaden and Trey] both lost their virginity. My intuition. I knew the night Jaden lost his virginity. I had a moment with Trey in the kitchen when I looked at him and was like ‘you’ve had sex’ and he ran into the bathroom.Jada’s grandmother taught her “about self pleasuring”
Jada: My grandmother taught me about self pleasuring because she wanted me to know that that pleasure was from me. She didn’t want me to fall into the hands of a man and if he gave me pleasure to think that that was him. And she taught me at 9…As women we are trained that we are not supposed to enjoy sex. Sex is not for women, sex is for men. I think that’s why so many women I know have never had orgasms.
Jada got addicted to sex toys
Jada: I’ve had a lot of experience with sex toys. I don’t miss that at all.Telana: I feel like it brings a third party into the situation that’s not, like human.
Jada: You’re 21? I think by your age I gave myself multiples first. I was really into it just because I was in an exploration phase and I abstaining from men. I think I went through kind of an addiction too. One day I was just like “enough, you’re having 5 orgasms a day.”
Jada wants to know how young people hook up and if there’s a stigma
Jada: If you have a young girl who has multiple partners is she still considered a wh-re, a sl-t?Willow and Telana: No, she is considered a regular person.
First of all, whatever Jada’s grandmother said or showed her when she was nine sounds inappropriate. Maybe it’s just the way Jada phrased it though. If her grandmother simply told Jada as a child that there was no shame in touching herself and that it was natural that would be the best scenario. Otherwise this story is concerning.
When Jada and her mom started talking about sex toys Willow looked uncomfortable. You can see that in the shots in this post. Willow was really open otherwise and seemed ok with the conversation. I think it helped to have her best friend there. I’m all for being sex positive, but this is a talk you have in confidence with your mom or best friend, not on Facebook. I cringed a few times.
Jada had a lot of questions about how young people meet and express interest in each other, Telana and Willow said it’s usually by direct messages, and what they think about monogamy and sex. It’s different for their generation and I would have liked to hear more about that. However Jada dominated the conversation and it was like she was just telling stories for headlines, but that’s pretty much the point of this show. Jada may claim not to know about young people but she sure knows how to overshare on social media.
Too much information…
+1 million
I can just see Kristen Bell taking notes. Her anal worm media tour was low rent compared to this.
Yet when Martha Plimpton said a particular abortion she’d undergone had been her best one yet people stood in line on this site to defend her for normalizing something that should be seen as a routine medical procedure.
Exactly. And I would not want my parent talking about me losing my virginity either. That is no ones business.
TMI is right!
I’ve been reading the headlines coming from these talks and they all make me cringe. A lot of it (not just this particular one) just feels gross and more than needs to be shared.
Agreed. I don’t want to know these things about them; this is the first article I’ve actually clicked on because I wanted to see what was said about it. Now I know that I’m not missing anything.
I find Jada often gives tmi (too much information) about her family. First it was about her and her husband, now it’s her kids.
She’d be amazing ‘cool aunt.’
She’d be a hellish mother….
Why is she talking about this publicly?! Attention? Are they poor now and need the money? Did Xenu take all their money?
She’s welcome to spread her private business across the world if she wishes but are the kids really, REALLY, in a position to make an informed decision about this? Aren’t these people supposedly A list in Hollywood? WTF?
Like enough already. This is not right to do to Willow. She is still underage and can’t legally decide for herself to not be a part of her Mom’s “tell all our business show”. I can’t believe what Jada is doing to her kids. Like this is worse than a reality show!
Mark my words, her children are going to end up in therapy someday to recover from Mommy Dearest!!
JP-S is bonkers and needs to shut her gob, even if it is only for the sake of her children. She is a dullard who thinks the world is on tenterhooks, waiting to hear about all her family’s personal stuff. We aren’t, because we don’t care.
Um, right? Even if Willow were a full grown woman, I woul feel so bad for her. Seriously, on national media, having THATconversaton withher own mother?
I can’t believe how well-adjusted she seems, all things considered….
Part of the Smith kids (Willow and Jaden, anyway) whole problem is sitting right across the table from them.
It’s possible to not treat your children like morons while still being a parent to them. Why the hell is she asking her kid how she learned about sex? Isn’t that her job as a parent? Jaysus. Just because kids are going to see porn or hear stuff from their friends doesn’t mean you shouldn’t help supply them with responsible information.
I think because porn is literally everywhere now for kids because of smart phones that parents/guardians really need to up their game and put sex into context for their children. Boundaries and consent needs to be spoken about a lot more, but still I am cringing about this show.
Poor Willow. I can’t imagine she wants any part of this, and is embarrassed.
I’m cringing on Willow’s behalf. It’s hard enough for a child to talk about these subjects in private with a parent. To do so publicly and in an era where every word is documented for eternity has to be incredibly painful particularly when Jada doesn’t strike me as the type that would be open to any sort of criticism from her kids.
Yeah, I don’t think Mom should be talking about her kids’ sex lives. That should be private. On another totally unrelated note, I just read of the tragedy of Bode Miller’s baby drowning. So sad for them.
She has a really beautiful daughter. That’s what I’m always struck by when I see a post on the Smith family. Even when Willow looks flummoxed by whatever her mom is talking about, she still looks quite stunning. The rest….um, everyone else, discuss.
I agree. Willow is a seriously beautiful girl.
She IS, and yet… Those photos of Willow show the exact face the Fresh Prince used to make when Carlton (ineptly) tried to impress a girl. Like, ‘Noooo, I can’t believe this. You idiot!’ Spitting image. It’s funny. Jada’s public sex talk is the new Carlton.
It is! Yeah, I can see it.
Now that I’m looking at the whole family properly in these pics, I have to say that Jada’s mom is pretty too.. The beauty has passed on to both the daughter and grand-dauther. Great complexions. Why any of them are talking about sex in relation to their family dynamics is a bit of a mystery to me. I think I’d rather know their skin care advice.
She is the spitting images of her father in these photos.
I’d absolutely die if my mother and grandmother were having these conversations in front of me, and I’m 28. So kudos to Willow for surviving that.
I’m not a ‘prude’ – but I’m also not someone who really chats about that kind of topic with anyone other than my husband. I have no issue talking to him about it – and I plan on openly talking about sex and protection and that stuff with any kids we have – while they’re still young – because I want them to be as informed as possible. I’m all for women enjoying their lives and getting what they want or need – I’m just not comfortable going into specifics about my personal history. That said – I think it’s great that other people are, and it’s really refreshing to see that there IS some shift happening when it comes to women’s enjoyment even if the change is slow. I’m just a more shy person overall, and I didn’t have a family that openly discussed this. There was always the “make sure you come to me about anything – I’m here to listen and not judge” from mom, and there was never a different standard for women and men in my family for sex – nobody just openly talked about it in detail I guess.
I can’t blame Willow for looking uncomfortable because I know I would be. I’m holding out hope for her. I hope she manages to work in whatever field she’s passionate about – and I hope she has a great life. These kids have so many opportunities that other kids would die to have – I just hope that they’re genuinely happy, healthy and feeling useful in some way or another no matter how small.
Me too. I’d be horrified. I’m not a prude either but honestly I have no interest in knowing that kind of thing about other people (especially family!) and don’t want to share about myself either, and in public too. I find it very…. unnecessary. Maybe because my family didn’t really talk about it either, but we’re all pretty private people so it’s not surprising.
Well, I guess she got permission from her children to talk about this but if I was a parent, I wouldn’t because it’s on the internet forever. It’s the kids story to tell if they want to tell it.
As for her Grandma telling her about self-pleasureing I don’t think this is inappropriate. In fact, I think it’s the most appropriate thing there is. The adults in your life letting you know how your body works in a safe environment and giving you a positive impression of it. Let’s face it, most parents show their kids the plumbing and let porn do the rest. TMI yes, but I think the result in her life was a positive one.
+1. As long as she got her kids’ permission to publicly allude to their sexuality, it’s fine. I kind of think she did, based on some of the things she said in the last discussion about Jayden’s emancipation and on the fact that she didn’t really go into specifics- like when the kids lost their virginities, and with whom. It seems like she probably asked them beforehand but got their permission on where to stop. If this was a case of a celebrity parent sharing details about/gossiping about a son or daughter’s sex life with the tabloids without permission- especially an underage celebrity- in order to portray them in a negative light, then I’d definitely think it was gross and exploitative.
Willow did look a little uncomfortable when it actually came time to have this conversation on camera, even if she did already prepare for it before. Hopefully Jada and Will are letting this be a choice for Willow now though, since initially she didn’t want fame.
My husband and I are open and honest about sexual matters with our teenagers, but not to the point where they’re visibly uncomfortable like Willow. Jada probably doesn’t see it this way but the way she’s discussing these matters it comes across as “me,me,me,”. I mean, for her to blurt that out to her stepson about losing his virginity– way to take an intensely personal and private moment and make it about her.
I heard an interview with her on 1A on NPR and it was awful. She’s a moron, and somehow had a podcast on motherhood. She has nothing of interest to say and is really vapid and a chronic oversharer acting like the first person on earth to ever be a mom.
Jada is just chatting about her kids like all the other parents in the Scientology cult do. Hubbard considered children to be miniature adults, and so do Scientologists today.
I’m actually wondering if these guys are no longer Scientologist. Will’s hosting that new science show on Fox, Jada did that episode where she was talking about regretting being so laissez-faire with her kids. It seems like they’re doing some rebranding and I’m wondering if that’s why.
Possibly with all the negative attention Scientology has received in the past few years, they’ve backed off. I hope so.
Talking about this publically is borderline abusive. Have these conversations in private, if you must. There is no reason on earth for these kids’ personal lives to be exposed and discussed.
ITA she violates boundaries constantly, further more she comes across as an obnoxious know-it-all. If she were truly happy with herself she wouldn’t be so unbelievably desperate for attention. She has always used her marriage and children for a very deep seated need for attention. Contented people are not exhibitionists. She’s the last person I’d take parenting advice from, seems pathologically self absorbed.
I was hoping you would cover this. I read the people article last night and OMG so much cringe. At one point she literally talks about how she was obsessed with having multiple orgasms. Sorry don’t care how close you are with your teenager, this seems entirely inappropriate to me. This woman has no boundaries the and she seems to talk about sex ALL THE TIME! That’s literally all I ever read or hear her talk about
Does Jada think she sounds cool by saying all of this? I’m never uncomfortable talking about sex, but I can’t imagine if I was a teenager, had famous parents and my mother was on camera talking about sex toys and me having sex. Jadas grandmother taught her how to masterbate at 9? That’s kind of wierd. This was all cringe worthy
T. M. I.
She doesn’t even want to be famous yet her mom is pushing her to talk about sex while still being only 17??
I’m sorry but this whole thing seems so desperate to me. Trying to revive her career by oversharing information that nobody wanted to know. It seems very invasive to me. I don’t dislike Jada or Will, but I don’t really think their parenting style worked and I don’t know why she’s trying to reinvent herself as some sort of lifestyle guru.
Yikes, Jada comes across like some desperate woman seeking attention in anyway possible.
I’ve always found her “EXTRA” almost narcissistic, sort of like Kristen Bell and her idiot husband.
Although, I really like Will Smith, he doesn’t seem so obsessed with himself like Jada.
My parents honestly and openly discussed sexuality with me and my two siblings from early age in the privacy of our home, but it was very age appropriate.
We could ask any questions, nothing was off limits, my parents were very well informed and really open, luckily we only talked about about intimate things at home and not in front of the whole world.
They certainly didn’t discuss self pleasuring with me when I was 9 years old, that seems early to me.
Willow is a beautiful girl, hopefully she is not going to need too much therapy, because of her self absorbed mother.
If Jada were discussing her financial journey/strategies/economic empowerment etc etc no one would have any criticisms. Evolve, people.
Oh, please, she is oversharing about her children.
Does she need more attention or what is her problem?
Just look at Willow’s face, she is not comfortable…
Why is Jada extremely oversharing like this about her children? These stories are so cringey and make me really embarrassed for all of them, and there’s a new one coming out every single week!!! I feel like she is stripping her kids of their dignity all for ?? attention?? ratings?? and I honestly feel embarrassed every time I see another headline like this. Why do I care more about her children’s dignity than she does?? It reminds me of the mommie bloggers who post about their son’s bedwetting or pics of their poops when they are elementary age.
And don’t tell me it’s about me being against the Smith kids because I like the Smith kids, what I am objecting to is the cringey behavior of Jada.
EDIT: If Jada’s grandmother really did teach her to masturbate at 9 years old that is child sexual abuse by the grandmother and it’s NOT something to be portrayed as cool or even okay.
All Jada said was that her grandmother taught her about self-pleasuring (and why). That doesn’t mean she touched her or anything like that.
She said that her grandmother taught her about it, and explained why. She didn’t say that she touched her.
it not TMI
our basic human urge is sex
everything we do is motivated by our sex drive
for 2 long men have used sexuality as a form of oppression against women
this is way horrible things happen in silence
im happy to see a caring loving family education women on sex, wtf not
I dont have anything wrong with being sex positive and being open about talking about it. But, it just seems a bit much. Like, did Jaden and Trey want you sharing these personal stories about them? Did you stop to think if your daughter would want to hear about you use sex toys? Etc. As you said it feels like she just wanted some clickbait. Well, she got it.
Yeah this chick is super over-interested in her kids’ sex lives. I mean parents are curious what their teens are up to, I get it, but she needs to shut her clapper, I’d be mortified if my mom was going around yapping to the press about my sex life. Shut up, Jada.
I’m so glad I’m not famous.
Funny, all their facial expressions sum up how I felt after reading this.
This over sharing is nasty. Does Jada not get work as an actress anymore? Why on earth would she do a show like this? And who is looking for life advice from Jada P-S?
I think she is just headline grabbing with all of this/I’m certain she is somehow making money from it also.
Seems to me she could find a hobby or charity to keep her busy.
No way would I listen to this show.
Jada, Willow, and Jaden could all afford to pursue traditional higher education which, IMO, would benefit Willow and Jaden tons. These celeb kids who seem to think model/social media will be careers make me sad. The world does not need more Kardashian type behaviour. Proper education will give them a better handle on their options in adulthood. Willow truly seems so uncomfortable with being in the public eye.
Where is Will in all these over sharing stories? Is he living a seperate life away from his wife and children?