Comments on: Laura Ling & Euna Lee pardoned after 4.5 months in North Korean prison http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:30:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jenn http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-476459 Jenn Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:06:35 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-476459 Personally, I think this is unfair. I believe that they should be punished for their trespassing. Bytheway, for those argue that they did not trespass they did. They even stated that they have trespassed. Shouldn't be punished,somehow? The punishment given by North Korea was harsh, but if that was what international countries agreed when internation laws were established, then thats what they need to follow. Personally, I think this is unfair.
I believe that they should be punished for their trespassing.
Bytheway, for those argue that they did not trespass they did. They even stated that they have trespassed.
Shouldn’t be punished,somehow?
The punishment given by North Korea was harsh, but if that was what international countries agreed when internation laws were established, then thats what they need to follow.

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]]> By: aquarake http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-410118 aquarake Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:21:07 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-410118 fizXgirl314 "you’re acting like you don’t understand what reporters do, they put themselves at risk for information. you know those people who are running toward a tornado or toward a fire when everyone is running away… yeah those are called reporters… idiot. " You could have picked someone who goes into other remote/secluded 3rd world nations, and you picked tornado chasers? That's an example of rash/careless actions that not only put unnecessary lives in danger, but also property damage. Google Chuck Henry for an example of where putting your life on the line is not necessary, nor heroic. Someone saying "There is a fire in Ventura County" is news enough. Weather charts of tornadoes are news enough. But hey, anything for ratings right? As for 'deserving' the punishment, no its not justified by a western sense of morality and law. But DPRK is a sovereign nation, and they are free to interpret their laws their own way. It was tresspassing and espionge to them. Besides, it really didn't seem like they were at all prepared for the worst (about a 4 year old daughter wondering why mommy's taking so long on her business trip leads me to think that it was ill prepared, or a false sense of confidence). And their presence in DPRK certainly didn't help anyone, least of all DPRK/US relations. fizXgirl314
“you’re acting like you don’t understand what reporters do, they put themselves at risk for information. you know those people who are running toward a tornado or toward a fire when everyone is running away… yeah those are called reporters… idiot. ”

You could have picked someone who goes into other remote/secluded 3rd world nations, and you picked tornado chasers? That’s an example of rash/careless actions that not only put unnecessary lives in danger, but also property damage. Google Chuck Henry for an example of where putting your life on the line is not necessary, nor heroic. Someone saying “There is a fire in Ventura County” is news enough. Weather charts of tornadoes are news enough.

But hey, anything for ratings right?

As for ‘deserving’ the punishment, no its not justified by a western sense of morality and law. But DPRK is a sovereign nation, and they are free to interpret their laws their own way. It was tresspassing and espionge to them.

Besides, it really didn’t seem like they were at all prepared for the worst (about a 4 year old daughter wondering why mommy’s taking so long on her business trip leads me to think that it was ill prepared, or a false sense of confidence). And their presence in DPRK certainly didn’t help anyone, least of all DPRK/US relations.

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]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-409421 Annie Thu, 06 Aug 2009 21:48:43 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-409421 <i>more</i> specific yes, and that's all relative. If we were being specific, specific, we'd use every country. If you're unaware of the negative connotations associated with "oriental" that's <i>your</i> ignorance, not mine. The term is pejorative in nature. For many Asian-Americans who are aware of the historical reference, it's considered our N word. It was a term that was sneered at many individuals in the past and used to clump us all together and suggest that we are less than equal to Europeans, since they are the center. But hey, if it's ok to refer to a person as Oriental, can I also refer to someone as Occidental? And, an act is illegal, not a person. By using the word "illegal" before "immigrant" you are using it as an adjective to describe the noun, which is in this case, a person. Like "re ball, the ball is re. But an immigrant is not illegal, just the act by which they chose to enter the country is. But I can't expect everyone to understand that. It's interesting to me that everyone's jumping down MY throat when there were comments saying that two women deserve to be sentenced to hard labor, and that cruel acts like that is inherent to that culture and there are comments that clearly mock another country's language, or what they perceive to be the language. more specific yes, and that’s all relative. If we were being specific, specific, we’d use every country.

If you’re unaware of the negative connotations associated with “oriental” that’s your ignorance, not mine. The term is pejorative in nature.

For many Asian-Americans who are aware of the historical reference, it’s considered our N word. It was a term that was sneered at many individuals in the past and used to clump us all together and suggest that we are less than equal to Europeans, since they are the center.

But hey, if it’s ok to refer to a person as Oriental, can I also refer to someone as Occidental?

And, an act is illegal, not a person. By using the word “illegal” before “immigrant” you are using it as an adjective to describe the noun, which is in this case, a person. Like “re ball, the ball is re. But an immigrant is not illegal, just the act by which they chose to enter the country is. But I can’t expect everyone to understand that.

It’s interesting to me that everyone’s jumping down MY throat when there were comments saying that two women deserve to be sentenced to hard labor, and that cruel acts like that is inherent to that culture and there are comments that clearly mock another country’s language, or what they perceive to be the language.

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]]> By: daisy424 http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-409303 daisy424 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 19:53:09 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-409303 Take a chill pill Annie. And cut the PC crap with 'Undocumented Workers'. If a person crosses a border without proper papers, they are breaking the law = ILLEGAL. Take a chill pill Annie.

And cut the PC crap with ‘Undocumented Workers’.
If a person crosses a border without proper papers, they are breaking the law = ILLEGAL.

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]]> By: Pam http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-409122 Pam Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:07:42 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-409122 I miss Bill Clinton too! I miss Bill Clinton too!

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]]> By: Bill Hicks is God http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-409115 Bill Hicks is God Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:02:31 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-409115 The air must be mighty thin up there on your high horse because clearly you are deluded: Central/east/south etc Asian is a hell of a lot more 'specific' than just Asian. That 'oriental' is offensive is laughable. Not my fault you equate it with something that's walked on. That's your baggage hon, not mine. The air must be mighty thin up there on your high horse because clearly you are deluded: Central/east/south etc Asian is a hell of a lot more ‘specific’ than just Asian.

That ‘oriental’ is offensive is laughable. Not my fault you equate it with something that’s walked on. That’s your baggage hon, not mine.

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]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-409090 Annie Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:24:07 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-409090 Yes, it is offensive. Because I'm not a goddamn rug. :) And because it's a completely euro-centric term. And the noodle thing wasn't funny. It's childish and ignorant to assume that's what "asian" sounds like. And specific isn't "central asian, east asian" etc etc. Specific would be giving every damn fucking country, which I didn't think was necessary to get into, but apparently it is. And oh, ok, so since I grew up in this culture and mindset, but you lived in Japan and China as a ? (I will not make assumptions on your place of origin) You're suddenly this big expert? Reminds me of the white kids in the nikkei clubs in high school. Yes, it is offensive.

Because I’m not a goddamn rug. :)

And because it’s a completely euro-centric term.

And the noodle thing wasn’t funny. It’s childish and ignorant to assume that’s what “asian” sounds like.

And specific isn’t “central asian, east asian” etc etc. Specific would be giving every damn fucking country, which I didn’t think was necessary to get into, but apparently it is.

And oh, ok, so since I grew up in this culture and mindset, but you lived in Japan and China as a ? (I will not make assumptions on your place of origin)

You’re suddenly this big expert?

Reminds me of the white kids in the nikkei clubs in high school.

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]]> By: Bill Hicks is God http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-408987 Bill Hicks is God Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:28:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-408987 Uh, Annie? It's "kanji." The noodle thing was funny,lighten up. And everybody let's just stop saying "Asian" and be specific: There's Central Asian, East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian. Just saying 'Asian' doesn't tell me doodly-squat. 'Oriental' does - what the fahk ever happened to that one? Is that politically incorrect now too? Uh, Annie? It’s “kanji.”

The noodle thing was funny,lighten up.

And everybody let’s just stop saying “Asian” and be specific: There’s Central Asian, East Asian, South Asian, Southeast Asian.

Just saying ‘Asian’ doesn’t tell me doodly-squat. ‘Oriental’ does – what the fahk ever happened to that one? Is that politically incorrect now too?

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]]> By: Trashaddict http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-408502 Trashaddict Thu, 06 Aug 2009 05:51:07 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-408502 Annie, Musey and Blueskies: I think Asian culture has one thing down really well. Yin and Yang. Some good and some bad, balance of opposing forces (I know that's really simplifying it). Neither Asian nor Western culture is all good or all bad. I hope no one would wish ill to these two women and I'm glad they're out. Sending Bill Clinton was a very face-saving way of accomplishing it. Bravo. Annie, Musey and Blueskies: I think Asian culture has one thing down really well. Yin and Yang. Some good and some bad, balance of opposing forces (I know that’s really simplifying it). Neither Asian nor Western culture is all good or all bad.
I hope no one would wish ill to these two women and I’m glad they’re out. Sending Bill Clinton was a very face-saving way of accomplishing it. Bravo.

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]]> By: fizXgirl314 http://www.celebitchy.com/64003/laura_ling_euna_lee_pardoned_after_45_months_in_north_korean_prison/#comment-408380 fizXgirl314 Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:54:00 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=64003#comment-408380 boogey, pipe down... if a man did it, they'd say he were brave... did anyone claim that daniel pearl was being irresponsible when he got beheaded? unfortunately, journalism comes with some intense risks... that doens't mean they don't deserve the protection of their homeland. they don't deserve to be called "stupid bitches" and for you to undermine the work that they do and the risks that they take... they do this so that we the public can get a glimpse into people's lives around the world and quite frankly they are heroic. it's an important and risky job... boogey, pipe down… if a man did it, they’d say he were brave… did anyone claim that daniel pearl was being irresponsible when he got beheaded? unfortunately, journalism comes with some intense risks… that doens’t mean they don’t deserve the protection of their homeland.

they don’t deserve to be called “stupid bitches” and for you to undermine the work that they do and the risks that they take… they do this so that we the public can get a glimpse into people’s lives around the world and quite frankly they are heroic. it’s an important and risky job…

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