Greta Gerwig: ‘As adult women, we’re always walking with our younger selves’

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Critics who have seen Little Women at early screenings have been giving the film positive reviews and buzz. I’m still… waiting. It comes out on Christmas, so I’ll be waiting for a while. It *is* such a Christmas movie, so I understand the release date, but it also concerns me because the awards season is so compressed and that Star Wars movie is coming out and I just think Little Women will be lost in the shuffle. Maybe that’s on purpose, because… just my opinion, it doesn’t look very good. Saoirse Ronan and Timothee Chalamet are fire, but everything else looks struggling. Anyway, the script was adapted by Greta Gerwig, who directed it as well. She’s been doing a lot of advanced promo interviews for it too. She chatted with the New York Times recently and there were some interesting moments:

The modern dialogue: Reading the novel again as an adult, Gerwig, who is 36, was struck by how modern its dialogue felt once she brushed away the dusty surrounding material. “Things were jumping out at me that I felt like I’d never heard before,” Gerwig said, like Marmee telling her daughter Jo: “I am angry nearly every day of my life.” Gerwig said, “That’s not something you think of as Marmee saying, except that it’s right there in the book. She says it.”

She searched for “the thing underneath”: What she found was Alcott’s depiction of “all of these inappropriate emotions for young women to have.” Gerwig’s adaptation feels modern. But “I didn’t invent it. It’s there.”

Re-reading the book made her measure her adult life against the expectations of her girlhood. “I think, as adult women, we’re always walking with our younger selves. I feel like I’m always answering to her, about whether I’m being as brave as I could be, or as big as I could be, or as ambitious as I could be.”

How she pitched the movie to Amy Pascal: “I guess I went in and told her that I was the only person to make the movie, and that I thought it was about art and women and money.”

How parts of the film are relevant today: The film opens with Jo walking into the offices of the Weekly Volcano and offering a short story to its publisher, Mr. Dashwood. He scans it, laughs at its jokes, crosses out whole pages and underpays her. “I felt like it could have been written yesterday, sitting with an executive at a studio,” Gerwig said of the scene. Mr. Dashwood tells Jo to bring him more material, and to make sure that her characters are married by the end — “or dead, either way.”

She was pregnant as she shot the film: “I didn’t really intend for it to be that way. It’s just that at the beginning, you don’t tell anyone. And then at some point, I realized, ‘Well, maybe I’ll just make it to the end, and no one will know.’ And then I did.” In the spring, she delivered her rough cut to the studio, and 24 hours later, she went into labor. “The baby was like, ‘All right, let’s do this.’”

Whether she’s wearing a wedding ring & is secretly married to Noah Baumbach: She’s asked if she’s married and she says “Oh, no.” I had noticed she was wearing a ring, I said. “Yeah, that’s a — that’s true, but — yes — no, but I’m not married,” she said. Then she added mischievously: “Yet.”

[From The NY Times]

The NYT also says, having seen the film, that Gerwig doesn’t do a straight chronological narrative, that everything jumps around in time as we see the March girls as almost-women, then a flashback to their childhood, and on and on. Gerwig says she studied Louisa May Alcott’s life deeply, and she learned the Alcott was basically forced into marrying Jo off to someone, although everyone would have preferred Jo to end up with Laurie. Alcott basically had Jo marry the professor as a joke and a f–k you to her readership. So remember that when people start writing treatises about how Laurie actually belongs with Amy. They don’t belong together and Amy is the worst. It was just Alcott trying to explain why Laurie and Jo wouldn’t be together in the end.

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  1. Ripley says:

    Amy is a terrible human being.

    • Claire says:

      She burned Jo’s manuscript. That is terrible. But she was a child. And she was going through a lot of trauma (dad at war, sudden poverty). Eh. I hated her too when I was younger. Now I see her as an overall pragmatic person. She sees that she isn’t a talented enough artist to be successful so gives it up…. she always liked Laurie and jumped at a chance to be with her childhood crush after her sister firmly rejected him…etc. She will never be my favorite but I do think she gets way too much hate.

  2. manda says:

    I tried to get through the book when I was younger and couldn’t get through it, so maybe I should try again. Just saying, I don’t know the real story, only the anime version I saw as a very young kid, and the one with winona ryder. I did want her to get with Laurie, but I was happy that she ended up with Frederick because he seemed like a pretty good guy, and she seemed happy. It’s funny that it was a big joke on Alcott’s part. I guess back then Frederick would have been considered a bit of a loser in comparison to Laurie, but I always thought it was cool she followed her heart and her life wasn’t totally destroyed, like other women in literature who did the same.

    Amy does suck in that I bet she would be insufferable to spend time with, but I can’t fault someone for going for what they want

  3. Lindy says:

    I actually loved Prof. Baher so much. He was everything Laurie wasn’t: kind, unselfish, loving, steady. I did loathe Amy as a kid but as an adult my feelings are more complicated–yes, she’s selfish and greedy and lacking in empathy, but she’s also a young woman pursuing something she loves. It’s sort of cool that she doesn’t end up punished for that.

  4. Lena says:

    I’m not as interested in seeing this as much as Noah Baumbach’s movie about his divorce from jennifer Jason Leigh. That split shocked me and was good for gossip as he got with his leading lady this here Greta soon after. But it seems like maybe she wasn’t the reason and I’d like to hear all the deets on that one. I understand nobody else probably cares! It will be interesting since it looks like (so far anyway) both Greta and Noah’s movies are in contention for awards Consideration. From what I’ve read it’s the actress that plays Amy that is the serious contender.

    • Ms single malt says:

      I thought his movie was more to do with his interpretation of his parents divorcing?

      • Lena says:

        No that was his earlier divorce movie “ The squid and the Whale”

      • BeanieBean says:

        I would hope it’s about his parents divorce, not his own.
        As for that editor saying the female lead has to end up married or dead, either one. Yikes. Tough to be a woman at that time. (Well, always, come to think of it.)

  5. savu says:

    What a profound statement about always walking with our younger selves. I feel that all the time. Not so much a conscious thought as having the same feelings rush back that I had as a girl, like she’s walking next to me.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Very true.

    • amayson1977 says:

      I feel sometimes like I haven’t measured up to “her” (my own) expectations. I don’t know how to explain it…when I was a young woman, I felt like I could do/be anything, go anywhere, that I had the same opportunities as any man. Then I got mommy-tracked at work, and a couple of years later Me Too happened, and the slow dawning realization that the bullsh!t I thought was just some crazy one-offs actually happens to ALL WOMEN EVERYWHERE, and that by comparison, I had gotten off very lightly in that regard just threw me for a LOOP. I felt very, very defeated when my rose-colored glasses fell away.

      Now my goal is to make sure my daughter and her peers (young women and girls in general) don’t feel the same way. I’m encouraged by the fact that we’re actually acknowledging and pushing back on the bullsh!t. I just want things to be better for them.

  6. Nicegirl says:

    12 year old me was soooo cool. Brave. Smart. Compassionate. Assertive. Sometimes it occurs to me that she would be either proud of my present actions/situation, or be like, confused and pissed 😠 at me for settling! It’s kinda neat to think about our younger selves as an encouraging companion, championing ourselves onward! 😉 🤦‍♀️ 🔥❤️🖖🏽

    • Estonian Bot says:

      My younger self is a bad influence on me. It equates getting into trouble with my managers at work with being told off by the teachers at school and thinks it’s quite amusing.

  7. Carina says:

    Greta’s breakout role was in Greenberg. Noah Baumbach directed the film and his then-pregnant wife, Jennifer Jason Leigh, wrote the screenplay.

    While directing the film, Baumbach & Greta had an affair. Once the film wrapped, Baumbach & Greta ran off together. Jennifer Jason Leigh gave birth alone basically right around that time. Keep in mind Greta was 30, a grown ass woman.

    How ppl on this website stan her is beyond me. Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig are not good human beings. But hey, you guys will give her a pass cause she’s that quirky talented blond white lady that makes flicks you like!

    If you support women, you don’t support a woman who does that. I’m not surprised tho – the picking & choosing is alive & well (see: Lewinsky article comments)

    • prettypersuasion says:

      yeah, they are pretty terrible.

    • TIFFANY says:

      And it is pretty telling that she is putting out there that she wants to get married. She knew she was going to get put on blast about the ring on that finger and this feels that she is letting Noah know that this is what she wants.

      So you are with a dude who is about the hit the award circuit with a film that was inspired by his divorce which you, as the other woman, had a hand in and there is not talk of an engagement.

      Yeah, good luck with that Greta.

    • Louisa says:

      Thank you for being the voice of reason.

    • Acires says:

      Yes yes yes thank you!

    • DragonWise says:

      Agreed. I did like her in Frances Ha, but she and Noah are terrible, selfish people, and not nearly as talented as they think they are. Reminds me of some vintage gossip with Cybil Shepherd and Peter Bogdanovich. Similar level of undercover dirt and lack of remorse.

  8. A says:

    I…never really cared much for Little Women. And it’s precisely because of the fact that people get so damn emotional about the Amy/Laurie vs Jo/Laurie stuff, tbh. Amy and Laurie deserved each other, and the fact of the matter is that Jo simply didn’t want to be with Laurie at all. I don’t think they would have been happy, and I don’t think Laurie would have treated Jo’s ambitions or her intellect with the respect they deserved. He wanted a society wife whether he knew that at the time or not, which was a role Jo wouldn’t have been able to fulfill. The book was about women having to do what they could with the resources they had at hand, which is exactly what Amy did, and I’m not gonna fault her for that. At any rate, it’s really not that deep, and people don’t need to be writing 8000 treatises about it.

    I don’t think this movie looks good either. But I’m here for this discussion about how we always walk with our younger selves. I’ve been thinking about that a lot recently. That’s a deeply profound thing to say, and she’s not wrong.

  9. Sumodo1 says:

    A, I can’t agree with you more.