Here are some photos of Prince Harry in London today for the UK-Africa Summit. They basically put Harry in a room and brought in African and British leaders one-by-one for photo-ops and brief face-to-face meetings. I’m including some shots of Harry meeting with Boris Johnson, and BoJo looking like a clown. I can only imagine what kind of racist slurs BoJo uttered in that brief meeting. Harry is packing a lot of appearances into his time in London, before he goes to Canada to see Meghan and Archie and presumably live there for years. Last night, Harry did an event for Sentebale, the charity he started years ago in Lestotho, which focuses on children affected by HIV/AIDS. He made a speech and of course all of this speech is already being misinterpreted. The text:
“…Before I begin, I must say that I can only imagine what you may have heard or perhaps read over the past few weeks. So I want you to hear the truth from me, as much as I can share, not as a duke or prince but as Harry, the same person that many of you have perhaps watched grow up over the last 35 years but now with a clearer perspective…”
“The U.K. is my home and a place that I love. That will never change. I’ve grown up feeling supported by so many of you and I’ve watched as you welcomed Meghan with open arms as you saw me find the love and happiness that I’d hoped for all my life…Finally, the second son of Diana got hitched. Hooray.”
“I also know that you’ve come to know me well enough over all these years to trust that the woman I chose as my wife upholds the same values as I do. And she does. And she’s the same woman I fell in love with. We both do everything we can to fly the flag and carry out our roles for this country with pride…”
“Once Meghan and I were married, we were excited. We were hopeful and we were here to serve. For those reasons, it brings me great sadness that it has come to this. The decision I have made for my wife and I to step back is not one I made lightly…It was so many months of talks after so many years of challenges and I know I haven’t always gotten it right but as far as this goes there really was no other option. What I want to make clear is, we’re not walking away.”
“I hope that helps you understand what it had to come to, that I would step my family back from all I have ever known, to stake a step forward into what I hope can be a more peaceful life. I will always have the utmost respect for my grandmother, my commander in chief, and I am incredibly grateful to her and the rest of my family for the support they have shown Meghan and I over the last few months…I will continue to be the same man who holds his country dear and dedicates his life to supporting the causes, charities and military communities that are so important to me.’
Harry is trying to do a lot in this speech, and of course that means words are being taken out of context and people are like “he never wanted to leave, it was MEAN MEGHAN.” What he’s actually trying to do here is emphasize how much of this was his choice, and something HE felt HE needed to do to protect his family. It’s not going to work, clearly, because people are still trying to pretend like this is all Meghan’s fault because… she’s biracial and how dare she. I feel like Harry is also trying to leave the UK without burning everything down too, even though he maybe should have burned it all down to ash.
Moving speech from Prince Harry this evening at a @Sentebale event on his future #HarryandMeghan pic.twitter.com/cikHK8rAas
— Victoria Murphy (@byQueenVic) January 19, 2020
Photos courtesy of Getty.
“Finally, the second son of Diana got hitched. Hooray.”
That was…bitter, no?
Ehh, maybe? Idk, If he is bitter towards his brother, I think he has every reason to feel that way.
He knew his room … that was what people had been thinking as he remained unhitched for so long. Everyone loved Diana.
And a lot of the narrative around him was he couldn’t find someone to marry him. Cressida and Chelsy supposedly didn’t want any part of it.
I took the hooray to be a little bitter though. Like “you all wanted me to get married and this is how you treat her.”
That’s how I took it too, Kebbie. Everyone was all gung ho for the wedding, but once that was done treated Meghan poorly.
It was bittersweet because it reflects how his identity was moulded outside of his control. He was Diana’s son first, instead of Harry the person. And he was Diana’s second son, maybe a subconscious reference to his position as the spare from birth. One can only imagine how this shapes you directly and indirectly as you grow up. And when he’s a grown man now, he still couldn’t be trusted to make his own choice of a spouse and path for himself. He was supposed to follow the path of marrying an English Rose and support the heir.
What makes me super sad is for all the people who cant leave toxic families for financial/cultural reasons. These 2 people are so unbeleivably lucky. The press was mean but I unfortunately have seen people I am close to crucified by the press to the point where it lead to months of terrible death threats. There was no paid security for them. And certianly no money to pay for their protection. And certainly no websites backing them up saying how wonderful they are. Im agine when someone says something mean about her in the press she can come right here and see how lovely people are towards her. It just makes me sad that the average person gets villified and they have no support system like she does (Jessica Mulroney and Serena – talk about connections !). Life for the priviledged is defintely a different voyage.
Don’t discount the treatment Meghan received as people “being mean” to her. She’s gotten actual death threats. The media have been horribly racist to her since her relationship with Harry became public. She was attacked throughout her pregnancy and Archie was called a monkey days after he was born. Having people close to you who’ve suffered doesn’t give you the right to discount and minimize the suffering of others.
@Beach Dreams, thank you.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why some people find it so difficult to give this woman the same empathy they would give a hurt animal. The resentment and the lack of human empathy is BREATH-TAKING.
Meghan Markle is a human being and has been treated in an abominable manner. Just because she lives in a fancy house and wears nice clothes doesn’t make her treatment any less monstrous.
People think this whole nightmare is a judgement on Harry and Meghan but it’s actually a judgement on US, of what kind of people we are. In 2020, Meghan Markle had to leave England because of the colour of her skin. How did this happen? How did get here?
The people who drove her out don’t even have the moral courage to own what they’ve done. They’re not only hateful; they’re weak too.
I took it that way a little bit, and I think it was warranted. There’s so many people who loved Diana who think they know what’s best for Harry. And I’m sure he’s kind of over it. The expectations from people who’ve never met him, the attacks on his wife that people are invoking his dead mothers name on… it’s a lot.
This exactly!! Thank you Erinn for being much more literate than I am at present 🙂
Exactly.
Delivery and response. It got a laugh. And he was only acknowledging what so many have already said.
Nah, not bitter per say, but a rushed introductory comic nod to get to the crux of the message. I can only image throughout the years how many times he was asked about getting married by everyone from reporters to family lol. So yeah, it was a personal funny and a perfect intro.
That’s what I thought too; lots of people had been asking him when he would get married – and then he finally did and they stopped. Anyone who has remained unmarried into their thirties will be familiar with this phenomena.
My theory is that Harry planned to leave the RF in this way (not a senior royal, everything scrutinized) the whole time, and was waiting so do so until his father became King; regardless of where he was in life, who he married, etc. The treatment he and especially Megan received made him pull the trigger now, hence the plans going into motion. He never wanted to stand beside William and be the “second” his whole life under intense scrutiny and public ownership. He didn’t want to hurt QE but they pushed him to it.
I think you’re onto something. He’s stronger than most people give him credit for, and I agree that he would have left once Granny was gone.
Harry es un adulto, sabe lo que hace . Nadie lo orillo a dejar la monarquia menos su familia.si no porque hubo una reunion en sandringham para disuadirlo. Como si kate no paso 10 años soportando a los paparazzis y tabloides. La diferencia es que harry hace lo que quiere. No tiene consideracion con la reina. Su equipo de relaciones publicas lo abandono por no seguir sus consejos.entonces para que tenerlos
I’m not even sure it was about not wanting to be “the second” (his dedication, enthusiasm and hard work around his charitable projects show that he loved the actual duties of royal life). I think he grew up seeing how sick, toxic and dangerous the tabloid media circus around the royals is. I think it was enough seeing his mother die and noting how compromised people can become (including his own much loved older brother) when beholden to such powers. And like any normal, sane, moral person he wanted to nope the f*ck out of it.
nah, that’s just English sense of humour 🙂
Not really? It’s kind of how everyone felt, no? Not in a rude kind of way, but more in a, “Oh hey this kid whom we all grew up hearing abt from the time he was a baby has finally found someone to spend his life with,” kind of way.
No, I think he was cheekily alluding to the fact he was infamously thought of as such a party boy for so long, into his 30s. Like finally, he settled down and became an adult. Hooray.
His speech was great – he’s so his mother. Very good at expressing emotion through words. His presence will be a big loss.
The DM is saying William didn’t want Harry at the event tonight due to the fear of overshadowing. The Wessexes will be there instead. Are they the new Fab Four?
Sophie is such a suckup. Kate will be delighted. I guess that’s what all those leaks about Sophie being clothes for Kate etc. were about, trying to establish a new fab 4 where Kate and William will never feel outshone.
Lol no one is checking for sophie and Edward. I’m sure the youth just loves that. Harry and Meghan were very popular with the younger generation. That’s the generation William needs and he they just kicked out the two people that could have helped.
‘Fear of overshadowing’ ? Is that shade from the daily mail towards William? I get the feeling the British media will be keeping the Cambridge’s in check to ensure they get everything they want out of them.
@February Pisces, Totally agree!!! The Daily Fail and other BM will never be off the Cambridge’s back to get exactly what they want from this point forward.
@February @February Pisces A deal with the devil indeed.
yeah, Sophie is also one of TQs favourites, so I can totally see her (and Edward) doing more engagements from now on.
Ugh, it is so fucking disgusting the way they are treated. I cannot imagine being Meghan and being the target of such a pack of vicious trolls, it’s beyond disgusting. Get out of there and don’t look back guys.
I’m sorry it came to this, too. As many commenters have said quoted beloved Lizzo, they could have had a bad b*tch.
And the truth is that we’ll probably never really know what happened or how in terms of who was supportive, who felt hamstring and why, who actively hurt and destroyed (I’m in the “William, Kate and the Middletons did the bulk of it”), what kind of power the courtiers have… but they really lost something special when Harry and Meghan decided to leave. I know they’ll continue to do charity and probably pretty awesome stuff, but it’s just such a giant eff up on the part of the monarchy. So so so stupid.
Pretty much this, word for word. We may never know the full backstory to this. But the monarchy should have done everything to keep Harry and Meghan. And it’s clear they didn’t.
The speech was interesting because it acknowledges that the bad feeling was primarily towards the press. Many outlets have tried to frame this as Harry & Meghan hate Great Britain and the British people but his statement make clear that isn’t the case. I don’t understand why he keeps giving the Queen such a pass though.
At some point some day we WILL KNOW the whole backstory.
I agree @BayTampaBay. I think we will find out the whole story eventually. And I suspect it will end up coming out through the litigation process.
Yes. My exact thoughts. It’s just so sad.
When the queen is dead, we’ll probably then hear the whole story. Similarly in my family a lot of us held our tongues on my grandparents and how judgmental they could be, if not downright cruel at times. When they died as much as we did miss them we were also free. I always wanted my nose pierced and I didn’t get it until after they both died. I can get a sense their family structure is similar. Hold their tongues until granny is gone.
Seeing that Harry’s family couldn’t even bother to look up from their programs when he and Meghan were saying their vows was a big clue as to what was going to happen.
Yes! I remember noticing that!
I just went back to look at that, wow… Charles looked up but seemed sad, Camilla and Kate hid under their hats…heads down toward their programs. It’s a moment, so who knows…but you’re right, didn’t bode well…
I believe that Harry thought his family would love and want to protect Meghan as much as he did. Instead, the Royal Family continued to allow Meghan to be thrown to the wolves, again and again and again, and never defended her in the press. The RF refused to call the Cambridges out on their petty, jealous whisper campaign against her. Then the RF allowed the press to ramp up their hate in order to distract from Pedo Andy’s association with Epstein. As working royals, Harry and Meghan were completely financially dependent on the Royal purse. I don’t care how much money they were earning, or how many pretty clothes Meghan was allowed to buy – NOTHING is worth the abuse they received.
Exactly
@CooCoo Catchoo, he flat out said that his family would be the family she never had. Imagine his shock when his family greeted her for the first time with a blackamoor brooch. Or when his sister-in-law (who he had defended in the past) or his cousins (no surprise there) didn’t even have the good taste and ‘home training’ to behave themselves at his wedding. It was downhill from there with the family at large but he must have thought that he could at least count on his father and brother. He must have a broken heart when it comes to his family. But he and Meghan have created a family of his own and his royal family will probably miss him much more than he’ll miss them.
Yours is my favorite comment in this whole mess. I’m so sad about it all.
Im thinking Pedo and Freeloader, as they’ve ALWAYS wanted THEIR girls to become FT working royals, high on the teat. And what better way to worm them in, with Charles’ “slimmed down” lineage of seniors royalls half gone?
The most telling part was that they offered to do all the duties, but without the public money and were told no.
The Firm can’t have any royals working for free otherwise the inevitable question Congress up – why couldn’t the rest of them do the same?
(Of course even after it being set out very clearly people are still accusing them off wanting all of the perks and none of the duties, when they were offering to do the duties without the perks!)
That’s what is so crazy. They were willing to perform Royal duties without taking taxpayer money (via the Sovereign Grant). And yet people are still going on about them being ungrateful and spending taxpayer money. It makes your head hurt with all the spin.
People are soooo stupid it is shocking after reading some comments on instagram and else. I can’t believe sometimes and adult person can write some sh..t it is beyond me… one of examples ” Meghan separated Harry from BELOVED brother William who suffers greatly” “broke up amazing wonderful family” etc etc etc. Yet no one bothered that Pedo Andy here and there and everywhere with smiley Liz. Wtf is doing their pr? This is insane. At least Guardian threw some shade on it and silence everywhere else
Where did you read that they were willing to work for free? They clearly said on their website that they are expecting to be reimbursed for work representing the Queen!
Because it seems that the taxpayers money and using the Royal Rota seemed intertwined. The royals are given funding through the Sovereign Grant for their “work” expenses and the Royal Rota (the British press) gets first access to all of their events and even the photos they release on their Instagram pages are given to the royal rota before or as soon as they are released. Harry and Meghan wanted nothing more to do with The Cartel (as they call the royal rota) and with very good reason but it appears that the RF would not let that happen. In fact, the event Harry attended last week at BP had all royal rota correspondences there, which was rather a slap in the face to Harry by BP.
His speech was great, and people can interpret what they want into many things that have happened, but they shouldn’t make up their own facts. Or think their opinions or conjectures are facts. They are just your opinions maybe an educated guess but still a guess. That being said the Royal Rota is not a bad thing. It’s like the White House press Corp used to be before Trump. A bunch of media organizations and they agree to share the info so not all are there at one time. Now the Royal Rota does have a fair amount of sensationalized tabloids on it. Still they share the footage theoretically it’s a good thing. My opinion is the real issue is as long as the public prefers and more importantly buys the sensationalized either through direct means or clicks the sensationalized will win. The stories get more outlandish too in order to grab people. The only good thing is the public has the attention span of a gnat and it will die down if nothing else happens. If the Sussexes want it they can have a quiet life after a while.
A racist royal rota hell-bent on publishing attack and lie after attack and lie about him, his wife, their child? And them being required to only use those racists as their press outlet? That isn’t making up facts, it is stating the facts.
If the Royal Rota was objectively covering got all the royals and engaging in ethical journalism, then it wouldn’t have been a problem. However, basically attacking one member individually, while ignoring blatant problems and criminal associations like Prince Andrews, the interference of Kate’s family, or just overall spending, is completely unprofessional. It was very agenda driven and dishonest, and the agenda was to drive out the Sussexes. I don’t have time for the other Royals and don’t care. Absolutely no respect for them.
The tabloid press should not be part of the Royal Rota. Removing that element would be a great step into bringing it into responsible journalism. Someone here commented on likening the RR to the White House Press Corp. The tabloid, the National Enquirer, and others like it are not part of the White House Press Corp in USA. (Of course Trump would probably prefer that all the WH press Corp be tabloids as they speak to his people: race baiting, mysogenist, extremists).
This was the most telling part for me as well. I hadn’t considered the precedent it would set. Great point!
Probably because the public would then begin to question why all the other royals cant do their jobs without taxpayer money
They can’t have members working for free because of rules the monarchy has agreed to with the government. The government won’t allow the Royals to make private income off their positions. Harry and Meghan have made it clear that they want to build on brand Sussex. They couldn’t do that while also performing official duties for the Queen as HRH. We have the same rules for our president, but they don’t seem to apply to the current one. That’s why Obama wasn’t making book deals and making money off of speeches during his presidency.
Some royal reporter the UK radio today was saying there’s just no way the queen could have changed the way a 1000 year institution works for 2 people (ie setting a precedent that they could stop receiving taxpayer money but still do royal duties AND make their own independent money, which is their aim as stated by themselves) but I guess they have found a way for M&H to work happily outside of the institution, whilst also leaving the door clearly open should they want to return. It would appear the whole taxpayer funding, rota, responsibility etc is much more complicated and involved than it seems from the outside. Whatever the situation this made me really sad for Harry in particular and I hope he will be happy. As an aside – not to this particular thread but some other comment above, he gives the Queen a pass because she is his grandmother, they have always been incredibly close and she is also 93 years old. Like he’s going to start all-out war with her and bitch her out at her age?! It’s just not in his nature.
The Royal Rota is not 1000 years old. It probably goes no further back then several decades.
The firm already unofficially has Prince and Princess Michael of Kent in this in-between space, they’re just hoping nobody is paying attention. They lived at KP grace-and-favour for years while not being working royals. Now they pay ‘market rent’ but that money may still be coming out of the money the Queen misspends every year (see BP upkeep money disappearing for decades). They use their HRH in their personal businesses, aren’t official working royals but show up at a few hundred engagements a year. Including State Dinners and receptions where they are perceived as representing the Queen. That has been ignored for years.
All Harry and Meghan were proposing was – We’re happy to to do our duty to the Queen, we’ll pay our expenses and volunteer if necessary. But we also want freedom to earn a living, similar to what P&P Michael of Kent have done. And do our own big charity work with out W&K trying to shove us down or take credit.
It wasn’t revolutionary, it just pointed out the Queen’s shady financial behavior through the years.
Well laid out. Where are you seeing the background on this?
This is why I feel like this is something of the beginning of the end. There won’t be any more perks for extended members of the RF once the Queen has passed away. I don’t think that the people who wanted to see the backs of Harry and Meghan fully thought through the impact it would have on the monarchy to have two of its most popular members walk away and do their own thing. People WILL question the necessity of the monarchy when they see Harry and Meghan thriving in their future roles without public money.
Very diplomatic speech but I take it as his saying he and Meghan didn’t want it to come to this but the hate and cruelty thrown at Meghan has left them with no other choice. Good for him and her and their family. But I do selfishly wish he had thrown the Royal family and press out for their horrible actions (and the continued defense of the horrible prince Andrew).
Also, he just looks so defeated. And heavy, like he’s carrying the weight of the world. 🙁
Defeated? No. Resigned to what he has to do? Yes. I imagine he truly didn’t want it to come to this. I don’t think Meghan did either. And at first, she was beloved. Until some idiot got the idea to try to derail that popularity. Whatever relative of Harry’s started this racist slamming of Meghan … I wonder if they meant it to go so far that Harry left England.
Yes, he looks defeated. they tried and tried, to no avail. He can look both.
Yeah, I think he just looks tired and resigned, and probably sad.
He looks determined and relieved. Like the other day when he laughed in the face of the RR who was yelling inappropriate questions at him. No longer required to tolerate that b!tch.
President Obama needs to ask Luther to help Harry out here.
Yes! 💗
underrated post
We definitely need the Luther interpretation!
Ha! That speech would have be a barn burner of a speech if Luther could have helped Harry out!! Great suggestion!
Who is Luther? What is the back-story here? Thanks!
It’s from an American comedy show called Key and Peele. (I’m sorry I don’t know if you are American, I don’t want to sound condescending if you are.) They used to have a skit where President Obama had an “Anger Translator” named Luther, who would say would President Obama, “actually” meant. Here is a link below: It’s really NSFW, so head’s up on that front.
https://youtu.be/-qv7k2_lc0M
Thanks for explaining, I didn’t what you guys were talking about 😘
Oh Harry, such a wonderful human adult. XO I admire this person so much. Both he and his wife. I am so, so excited for them to start a life that is freer from the racism and lies. They will still occur but if you are not available … the bully is going to have to find someone else.
I think on of the best twitter comments I saw about this was this one:
‘ I wish I had taken out an official announcement when I told my family to f%$k off.’
LOL! Awesome Twitter comment.
That’s a great Twitter quote. I second that emotion.
It was a thoughtful and mature speech. The caliber of the work H&M have done is stellar, and to do it, through all of the crap from the press and the lack of support from the family means that they are an incredible team. I firmly believe they have a bright future.
“Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by …”
And I think it will make all the difference.
I wish them well.
As someone who was raised in Vermont, I give an appreciative nod to this comment. 😊
Beautiful reference, Estelle, and I too wish them a bright future. I wonder if the rest of Frost’s poem about having chosen the road “less traveled by” rather than the first road will come to be:
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I admit I’m actually curious as to what in heaven could BoJo possibly be saying here… what words go with those gestures? I can’t even…
He’s mime clowning.
LOL!!
Bojo: Oy Harry guess how big a f*ck do I care about the NHS?
Harry: Hmmm I dunno wot?
Bojo: This much!
Harry: Hey-oh
The look on Harry’s face = 😂
I’m so far removed from the UK, I’m not white or European either. I’m from Asia and his speech made me tear up. No word salad, just a simple and heartfelt speech. Yes he is privileged and wealthy and so is Meghan, but I have no doubt both have compassion and empathy in their bones that cannot be faked. And he knows people will keep saying all of these are Meghan’s fault but he still reiterated in his speech that it was his decision ultimately and take from that what you will. This man could not protect his mother and now he wants to rightfully protect his wife and son. I am so enamoured.
Why were they not allowed to work for their patronages and military communities without taxpayer money? It’s because this would place scrutiny on the other HRHs that are minor royals and Queenie wouldn’t want to give the peasants ideas, at least while she’s still in charge. That’s Charles problem to resolve and likely why the negotiations took so long.
Great observation. I didn’t pay much attention to the monarchy before this and tired of the rest of them already. It’s just so upsetting to see how this couple, who it’s obvious like to work and give back, were so vilified and the trivial magnified. I sure they have a lot of anger, something that has not been mentioned by supporters or detractors. I’m angry for them. As for hypocrisy, those bleating on about duty refuse, especially the press, refuse to take any responsibility for their actions and undermining of them. Just disgusted. I really want the best for Harry and Meghan in their future and hope they really do well going forward.
I remember leaving a job years ago and basically showed them a figurative finger with a smile on the way out. I never regretted it because that was a bridge I was prepared to burn. I see why Harry would speak politely, because unlike me, he is a diplomat and is keeping the doors open to reconciliation.
All I got from that speech was that he loves Meghan and they wanted to work for the good of the people, what their roles were meant for BUT unfortunately all the toxic people wouldn’t let that be and no family stood beside them. So adios amigos.
Hi Seraphina. I agree with you. I think he spoke from the heart — guardedly. As he said, he wanted to speak his truth as far as he was able. I think he did and I think he knew the haters and the idiots were going to take it apart word for word and twist it beyond belief, but at least he said what he wanted directly to the public. I think when he said — love of country, love of work, love of a good woman beside him — it was still so unrelentingly bad that HE was owning that this was his decision. That with all his desire to stay …..that should tell you how bad it is that it has come to this. I believe him. Everyone expects bumps in their road with family, work, friends, outside influences. You hang in there but you keep going. For the Sussexes — between his family and the unrelentingly toxic press. ——- Well NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION. I’m so glad they are both healthy enough to “take the less traveled path.”
And as an aside about today’s event, once again we see him OTHERED by his own family at a function. If he is so beloved by his family and they are standing by him …..where the F*** has at least one of them been in even the last 10 days. A picture (or in this case the lack of one) says a thousand words.
‘So I want you to hear the truth from me, as much as I can share’
This coupled with his comments in the documentary. ‘And if anybody else knew what I knew, be it a father, be it a husband, be it anyone, they would probably be doing exactly what I’m doing as well. But again for me, and for my wife, of course there is a lot of stuff that hurts, especially when the majority of it is untrue. But we need to focus on being real, and focus on being the people that we are, and standing up for what we believe in.’
There is much, much more to come.
Notasugarhere, yup, and I can’t wait!!!! I’ve heard a saying that sh!t usually smells no matter how much you try to cover it up. Sooner or later the truth will come out.
YES good catch Nota. There is so much happening behind the scenes with that family, and its not good, and I firmly believe that THAT (the “behind the scenes” stuff) is what drove H&M out, not the press. I think the press pushed him to the breaking point, but I think the “other stuff” is what tipped him towards the final decision.
My current theory – the BRF is realizing (or will soon realize) what a disaster this is. Kate and William at the UK-Africa investment reception, but not the biracial duchess? And its not “just” about Meghan’s race. She is smart, poised, educated, does her research etc, She blows some of the other royals out of the water at events like this and they know it. And she’ll be doing her thing in Canada and wherever and being the
Anyway – I digress. They’ll realize what a disaster this is, and how bad the family looks. I think at that point the dirt is going to start to come out about this, because both William and Charles will want to make it clear that their hands are clean.
Becks, I bet they will do what people usually do: blame the ones that aren’t around. That will mostly likely be QE and PP. and they will throw her under the bus and try to make Charles like he was never for it and yada yada
It was truly a beautiful and well thought speech. I am sure it gave him confort to be able to say his truth (or part of it at least) in front of people he cares for and who respect and care for him & Meghan.
W&K are the biggest losers in all of this but it’s their own fault. I hope they are prepared for the scrutiny that will come their way once the dust settles.
They’ve cut off and out two people who showed themselves willing to work, and work meaningfully. I’m sure many will quote numbers but H&M were doing work that went beyond numbers, that would have had a longer lasting imprint and paid off in goodwill with the people if only the rest of the royals had been willing to back them.
Instead, we get church walks with Andrew and botox denials and rose garden obfuscation.
i think this illusion of their marraige is going to be put to test during him being prince of wales. whoever holds that prince of wales titled doesnt have good marriage or normal relationship. plus all those karma of cambridges will come back and its going to nasty. i believe that prince of wales title is some kind of cursed. lets wait and watch.
It’s been a mess since the Black Prince. Good luck to them.
ds9 what is black prince?
The Black Prince was Edward of Woodstock, eldest son of Edward III and Prince of Wales. He lived in the 14th century.
He was outlived by his father and thus never became king. His son became king as Richard II, was deposed and is thought to have been starved to death in captivity.
@The Black Prince was the heir to Edward III of England but died before his father and never assumed the throne. He held the title of Prince of Wales at the time of his death
@Aria
Perhaps @DS9 meant this Black Prince.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_the_Black_Prince
Hey DS9. Don’t forget the hair extensions. There was no stiff upper lip On that major life issue or any — never complain, never explain — there. This family. Words desert me.
“hair extensions”??? What are you referring too?
The very first press release regarding Kate after the marriage was the denial of hair extensions and claiming it was a childhood scar.
Given her hairdresser was known for doing hair extensions and *only* hair extensions at that salon. After the ‘scandal’ of this coming out about Kate, he was fired.
I don’t think the Cambridges or Middletons thought that leaving was ever and option for H and M. I think they figured they had a great new couple that would share the work load and all the bad press. And they would build Kate up to be a hard working Goddess while tearing Meghan down day after day.
Harry has been to this rodeo! And it shows.
No one anticipated them walking away, because they’d built up a narrative in their heads that the titles and class status and such were important to Harry and meghan, but especially Meghan. The were looking at Meghan through a lens of British Culture and the importance of those things, instead of Meghan’s American culture.
Meghan never needed or wanted that royal stuff. She only wanted Harry. She wanted to be with Harry. So it was pretty easy for her to walk away because she had him and her baby.
And Harry always had one foot out the door. All this all did was finally give him the final push to take the leap and go.
So yeah. HUGE miscalculation on the Cambridges and Middletons part. Whereas anyone with an ounce of awareness could see this leaving thing coming.
Well, there is an article that William and Harry made up and it might be true. The only off thing is Harry and the firm talking about several months of leaving. Were there willing to give up so soon? What’s strange is that recently they got better press, after the lawsuit I saw several neutral to positive articles so I wish they waited.
But has anyone else notice the narrative they press is trying to push.. Harry, “our” good boy and Meghan the bad one.. people want him back without Meghan.
You mean the story from Dan Wooton, friend of KP’s press secretary and thus one of William’s go-to reporters? No, it’s just more spin trying to prop up and protect William, much like that recent “joint statement” condemning the articles that called him out for bullying.
Agreed. William is spinning like a top right now to push his version. (History will F*** him on this mess, but not for many years.). Where is one single photo of them. How hard would it be to actually see William step into the same frame as Harry with a GENUINE smile on his face and welcoming body language. It hasn’t happened in the last two years it isn’t going to happen in the next few days. Ain’t gonna happen is my thinking. I’m sure William is counting the seconds until Harry gets on that plane to Canada.
I think Harry’s line in his speech last night about —- my family — was telling. He singled out the queen but the rest (his father, his brother) were included in the “my family”. That was strong, diplomatic PR talk speaking because if he had not included those few words it would have really exploded today. Sara Latham earned her money helping him get that right.
There’s also talk that leaders of different African countries requested private, one-on-one meetings with Harry today. Not with William. Petty William might try to keep Harry out of the spotlight at the reception tonight, but political leaders from those countries got their one-on-one meetings with Harry.
Not only are the BRF the big losers here, but the world has seen what William is trying to do to his brother.
I cannot wait for the receipts from the DM lawsuit.
I can see the African leaders asking for one on one meetings with Harry. He may have had to give up his role as Commonwealth Youth Ambassador, but he and Meghan are still the President and Vice President of the Queen’s Commonwealth Trust. Scobie got that right, and it was confirmed yesterday in several outlets like The Times, the BBC. It will be interesting to see how they pattern their work in those continuing roles.
Until I watched this speech, I don’t think I truly appreciated how hard this is for Harry. I’m sure we’ve all felt a little sad after giving a job two weeks’ notice…they didn’t appreciate us enough…we got passed over…the time has come to move on, but still we feel a twinge of letting people down, knowing some people valued and benefitted from our work. So I’m imagining that for Harry multiplied by his entire lifetime and then adding family dynamics. It can’t be said enough, you’re doing the right thing Harry!
What a sweetie.
Bettyrose, you said it so well.
What a moving speech! Harry best man of the 2020
That was a lovely speech and was pretty clear and direct where it needed to be and where he apparently is allowed to be. The people who are taking it out of context are being willfully stupid and hateful.
What is not so clear and direct is why his vision to be a working royal NOT publicly funded could not be worked out even a little bit. Why couldn’t he keep his military honors? If I understand correctly what I have read of the statements from an officer of the British military, he can no longer wear his uniform AT ALL in any public events, because he now has been stripped of his affiliation.
But chew on this: the rapist can.
Was the removal of all his military patronages and affiliation a legal consequence of removing him entirely from tax payer funding and the shackles to the Royal Rota system? If that is the case, then that is the case. That, I guess is the price of freedom FROM the corrupt press of Great Britain.
Or was it the punishment the nasty courtier with the stick up his bum warned about?
What makes me sick is reading in the US press the usual analysis of this event. Of course they ignorantly quote the usual biased sources in Britain and this is getting spun to how difficult and intractable and broken Harry and Meghan are. How Meghan couldn’t cope with British life and royal life. There’s a passing reference to the difficulties of being biracial.
Really? The crux of this whole disaster is racism. It starts and ends with racism. You can mix up classism and xenophobia and all the other red herrings.
But it really is racism.
It’s 2020 and on a day honoring Dr. Martin Luther King, we have a gun rights rally unfolding. Regardless of where you stand on gun ownership, the fact remains that this rally is being attended by white supremacists and violence is anticipated as a possible threat. In 2020. Just saying.
That’s the long and the short of it. The British monarchy will countenance a person who had sex with an underage sex trafficking victim, openly consorted with a pedophile and defended his friendship with him, and gave an interview where he expressed no remorse whatsoever for his behaviour, but the person who didn’t do anything except marry a biracial American and start a family with her gets no support and has to leave.
What is also interesting is the Fail story about how the brothers have kissed and made up but its all Charles fault as he (Harry) doesn’t trust his father and that relationship is really the one that’s in tatters. No doubt he has a difficult relationship with his father but he doesn’t have a great one with his brother either. Hmm, wonder who leaked that tit bit and well time will tell if its true.
Of course Wills made up with Harry. He’s delighted he won’t be overshadowed by their glamour and work ethic anymore. It’s very easy to be generous when you think you’re the winner.
Did the Fail copy the story from the Sun? I saw Wooton touting it as an exclusive, and we all know his connections to KP.
Sounds like KP briefing against Charles. Can’t wait to see them go head to head now that the common threat (H&M) are out of the way.
I seriously doubt the brothers have made up. Harry is probably zen about his relationship with him. He can either let William damage his peace or he can agree to forgive, but never forget. William will never have his trust again. None of them will. But in order to move on with his life, he has to let his anger go.
Or he’s biting his tongue for now, playing politic until the facts of the lawsuit and leakers come out.
@nota, I am with you. I cannot wait until the lawsuit unfolds in court!
@nota, I hope the leakers are revealed. I hope they are worried everyday at KP that they will be revealed.
People in a party supply barn in Berkshire are quaking about the reveal too.
If Harry found out through his lawsuit and the discovery phase that W & K were the ones leaking these terrible stories, I highly DOUBT all is peachy keen with William and Harry. Let’s be for real. William might be the reason Harry has do this, but Harry’s fine with it and they’re besties again? I highly doubt it. That’s not something that is easily forgiven or forgotten. That is Harry’s wife and child that William tried to destroy…but sure, let’s go with the fact that they are 100 again. I can’t roll my eyes any harder.
William might be friendly, “loving” again because he got his way, but Harry isn’t stupid. He’s had William’s number for decades.
I don’t believe it for a second.
@What… now?
You wrote “He [Harry]’s had William’s number for decades.”
Did he now? Because I distinctly remember Harry saying that the RF would be the family Meghan never had. I think that prior to his marriage, he did not know his brother could be such a piece of work. Hence the sadness.
I don’t buy it either, What… now. Harry is being the most politic he can be right now, to get what he wants and to get out, but there is more to come.
@Sarah – he did say that, but can we be sure that William was included in that? Perhaps he meant his father, Camilla, the Queen and others? We don’t actually know.
Nota has said that William has always used Harry as his scapegoat since he was the “Spare.” So…I tend to go with that logic.
The newspapers just filed their defence in the last week and so the discovery process hasn’t happened yet. The next few months will have more revelations because that is when counsel prepare their affidavits and produce their documents to the other side in advance of the discovery / deposition.
Hey Digital Unicorn (love your handle and always enjoy reading your comments): I agree. And, if it is William spinning to his friend Wooten, then William is opening fire on his father. As I said a few days ago, Charles and William have gamed Harry out of it (Charles stupidly and William malignantly). Now —- let the GAMES begin between William and Charles. I hope they tear each other to pieces.
I read other stories that hinted that Harry went to Charles first about everything and Charles gave him the runaround. That is why he went to the Queen. I noticed that when the exile stories first appeared last year on how William wanted to push them out, send them to Africa, etc, the Sussexes said they only looked to TQ and Prince Charles for advice not other family members. Lately though, the stories say they look to the TQ and Prince Philip which seems really odd, given that he is retired and not involved in the day to day. So it seems that Harry is definitely on the outs with Charles. Since Charles is still going to be supporting them, I wonder if the Queen forced his hand on that. Or I wonder if Harry found a link to Charles with the smearing along with W&K.
All William and his band of grey men need to do now is carry on a smear campaign against Charles, turn the public and press on him and viola, King William and Queen Kate when the Queen dies. William wants all the power now. He is not interested in working under King Charles….watch it happen while we all over analyze what is right in front of our faces. No more tinfoil tiara is needed.
I came here to say that a smear campaign will happen too. But I think if anyone wins it will be Charles. We are going to see a War of the Wales’s developing over the next few years that William will never win. Whatever biases he has against his father, Charles is smart, plays the long game and will quietly put him, and moreso KEEP him, in his place. Charles is a master leaker and I’m sure he has dirt on William that could sink him if it gets out. William almost got outed with the Rose Hanbury scandal and papa managed to get it shut down, but where there’s smoke there’s fire.
William can’t just skip Charles in the Line of Succession. That would require a lot of legal work and something pretty catastrophic would have to happen for Charles to get passed over. Plus, I don’t think that William wants to be king, it is way too much work for him and much harder to hide away in the country doing whatever he does when he’s out of the spotlight.
They already attempted that a few years ago. Remember the whole ‘skip and generation’ campaign? Thinking about it now I think it was Ma Middleton behind those stories to try and get William and Kate on the throne faster.
Blaming Charles is obviously coming from William and the battle has shifted to CH and KP. I don’t think William realizes what he’s doing here. Rank matters and while he could lord it over Harry to his benefit, his father is the Prince of Wales. Charles already had to deal with the press during the Diana years and has been able to make a come back. If William thinks he can win this war, he’s a bit deluded.
This is definitely spin from William and the Middletons, trying to poison the well before the facts come out. Harry and Meghan aren’t backing down in their lawsuit. Leakers will be named publicly, or the Fail is going to pay millions out and be required to abide by a media code when it comes to the Sussex family.
I’m a bit more trepidatious about the lawsuit, in part because I heard the hideous Kelvin McKenzie (former editor of The Sun during some of its absolute worst periods) on the Today programme (Radio 4) last week and he was positively drooling at the prospect of Meghan being called to the stand and taken apart “limb by limb”, as he so charmingly put it, by the Mail’s lawyers.
This is basically the way the tabloids behave, of course – the journalists and editors effectively terrify the subjects of their stories into not fighting back – and so I feel that this lawsuit is a courageous act. However, I hope they’ve got some really good legal counsel and that they’re prepared for how utterly, obnoxiously vile things may get.
H and M KNEW what kind of court battle they could face against the nasty tabs, yet they said, “Let’s do it.” They know, they will be prepared for the very, very worst that the Mail will try to throw at them. They are not dumb. The mail expects them to fold? No. Just because the other royals are without backbone when it comes to the press, doesn’t mean H and M are. Their lawyers will prepare them well. This court battle is a two way street. It’s not just about the Mail hammering Meghan and Harry to no end–Harry and Meghan get their turn too.
This will be a battle royale, so to speak.
The Sussex lawsuit isn’t going to be dropped.
Look, if there is one thing we Americans are really good at, it’s suing mother**kers. And personally, I don’t think Meghan has any fear of being call to the stand. She isn’t some meek wallflower.
I just personally want to see if the Fail really holds to their “threat” of calling Thomas Markle to the stand. That man is so inconsistent, and clearly coached, he’ll clam up and not know what to do the minute he’s forced off the script.
I totally believe that Harry doesn’t trust Charles. Harry specifically thanked the Queen in his speech, so he doesn’t seem to have hard feelings towards her. So the only senior senior royal still left is Charles. And it has been my theory all along that Charles played a key role in the smear campaign.
And don’t tell me William is pulling the strings in ALL of this. He is neither smart nor ambitious enough…
Mummy Carole the puppeteer has been pulling those strings for years.
His speech was wonderful and anyone spinning it as anti-Meg is reaching. Harry made it very clear that it was HIS choice and that it’s not a choice he wanted to make, and finally, that he isn’t some dumb also-ran who was tricked by his wife – he chose someone who shares his values and was eager to work. It seems, to me anyways, that he was not allowed by the Queen, to continue some of his royal duties- that it was all or nothing. If so, it was a shortsighted choice on her part.
I’m from Britain and if people don’t care about the royal family why is this story front pages in the papers, on every breakfast& debate show? It’s also led to discussion about racism& about the press, with some MPs chiming in and its showing how a lot of British commentators are wilfully ignorant about racism& dismissive about experiences of POC in their own country. It’s been appalling to watch
Agreed. I understand that Brits generally don’t think much about the royals on a regular basis. But the family clearly means *something* with this constant coverage. And judging by the crying about Frogmore “disrespect to the Queen”, I’d say a portion of Brits do care more than they’d like to admit.
He basically said what we already knew: it was HIS choice, the talks had been going on for months, and he felt he had no choice because he had literally no support from the RF.
I watched this speech this morning and it brought tears to my eyes. I’m so proud of him for doing what’s right for his family. I feel like he was sorrowful that he could no longer do his duties – is he going to be able to continue with sentebale?
It just didn’t have to be this way. They could have had an incredible team working for the monarchy. But alas. Racism. Pettiness. Jealousy. Go and be well, Harry, Meghan and Archie.
He will be able to continue with Sentebale and with Invictus. Those are his personal charities he began, so it’s not tied to Royal duties.
Meghan did an extraordinary job in her short tenure as a Senior Royal and when the dust settles I imagine people will look back and wonder, “Exactly what was it that she did wrong again?” It’s a telling example of the power of the media to twist a narrative whichever way they choose and run with it. The editors and writers who purposely pilloried this eager, loving young woman is an example of modern-day evil and I will never think otherwise.
Eventually, we will hear the real story. Back in Diana’s day we had no idea what was going on behind the scenes but it all came out in a very messy way and I expect the same will happen here.
I think the Sussexes will come out well when this whole period is looked at through an historical lens. Of course, that does nothing for them to have to live through the pain and betrayal now, but history will right this boat of what really happened.
It was a great speech. It was a comforting and affirmative speech. Harry is fine. He knows his mind and heart. He’s a whole grown man who found a woman who shared his values and goals. He chose her. Together they wanted to do great things, but couldn’t due to racism, xenophobia and misogyny. They would have stayed and worked without the Sovereign Grant and they said no. Can’t have people thinking they can do their jobs without public funds. No can do.
The fact 3 (Morocco, Malawi and Mozambique) countries requested a private meeting with Harry today speaks to his value outside the BRF. The BRF should be shook.
The first time I watched it, I felt like it was a gift from Harry to all of us that support and believe in the two of them. He didn’t have to say anything. He didn’t have to speak from his heart. But, Harry and Meghan lead with compassionate hearts and when one or the other of them speaks without a filter it is always worth the listen.
Yes, those countries didn’t request private meetings with William. They wanted Harry, one-on-one. The international support for the Sussex family is there and growing.
While I don’t imagine that how the UK has treated Meghan will affect the trade between the UK and African countries, it seems to have had an affect on those wishing to meet privately with Harry. I don’t think seeing the racist reporting of Meghan is sitting well internationally and while on the surface things will go on as before, below the surface people see it and will remember it for years to come.
Countries in Africa, particularly those that are mineral rich, have plenty of options when looking at trading partners. UK is in a poor negotiating position right now with the chaos of Brexit, and these countries have much better choices than the UK. The mistreatment of the popular WOC in the royal family, at the same time UK trots out the royals as something to admire during this trade summit? It may well have an impact.
That speech was very moving. I’m so proud of Harry. He really was a mess back in the day and I didn’t have much respect or hope for him. He really has come into his manhood and I’m so proud of him. He’s proclaimed to the world that HE CHOSE HIS FAMILY.
The true measure of how horrible the British family are is that they chose to protect a rapist and allowed this brave young man to walk away. They should have done whatever was needed to keep Harry Sussex. A lot of people say the royal family will regret it but I don’t think they will because they’re INCAPABLE of appreciating what they had with Harry and Meghan.
It might be painful at first, but Harry and Meghan are so much better off. They walked away before Meghan was hounded to death, which is what a lot of people REALLY wanted.
Hi Kerwood. I agree with you. I think it’s all — “Sorry old chap, stiff upper lip and all that; too bad you let the side down, pip pip.” I think most of that family can’t wait for him to get on that plane. They are insular and insulated in their upper class Aristo world. They are almost in ‘lock step’ with it.
Yes to all of this. I truly believe the BRF have their heads up their collective a$$es. They have people around them who insulate them from things and they have NEVER been a family given to introspection. They will go on like nothing happened…until things start to fall apart. Which they already have begun doing and they will look around utterly shocked by it all. While the rest of the world will be saying, “Told ya so”.
You’re right, they will not regret what they did. It’s just not in their makeup. They are only angry at losing their whipping boy. I would say I cannot wait until it is their turn in the press, but no one in that family will get what Meghan got. They will never face what they put her through.
People in the U.K. says this isn’t news to them? Only Americans care about it? Ok, then why the public outrage? The upset over their Frogmore renovations was totally press-manufactured? The press isn’t fueled by sales to one small faction of Britons, give me a break.
tabloids etc do have a lot of influence in Britain. I know people who say they don’t read them but will parrot same lines as these papers’ views are also broadcast on political, news reviews and breakfast shows.
Even though circulation of these papers are dropping, that the Sun and the Mail are the top selling papers- to me it says a lot that there is an audience for these rags. The sun famously said they won Tony Blair his first election. At the last election 55% of conservative voters said in a small survey they didn’t want more immigration by Muslims. This is after lots of anti Muslim coverage in U.K. papers from the Sun to the Times.
People have tended to vote same way as these papers have wanted- see the EU referendum. That’s why even though ministers had their phone hacked, ex journalist Boris Johnson committed to quash the second part of the Levenson inquiry in the last election campaign.
And the broadsheets aren’t that much better these days. This analysis showed same negative coverage for Meghan across broadsheets& tabloids https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/react-markle-middleton-negativity/
Nothing left to say but nothing is worth more than your peace. Wishing Harry, Meghan and little Archie the best in this new chapter of their lives.
So the British media and RRs are high fiving and doing victory laps on successfully driving H&M out of Britain. Karma is a B and I hope they all get what’s due them in the end.
And what kind of people do that? What kind of country allows that? The woman was driven out of the country for committing the sin of being bi-racial. Not because she was American. Not because she was divorced. Not because she was an actress. BECAUSE SHE WAS BLACK.
Rule Britannia.
I saw a quote recently that really resonated with me for personal reasons, but it’s equally applicable to Sussexit:
“When you try to ruin someone for attention, revenge and jealousy, it always comes at a cost.”
So let’s just sit back and watch while karma takes its fee from those who caused this ugly mess.
Like others have said, it was a beautiful and moving speech. I wish H&M much success, happiness and luck on their new ventures! As for the tabloids and Toxic Tom? How about a nice trip over Niagara Falls?
Can’t wait for the tell-alls. Get your popcorn ready.
Don’t hold your breath
It’ll all come out after the Queen is gone.
His speech was so heartfelt, it makes me sad it had to come to this. But Meghan and Harry are on the right side of history. Meghan has made more impact in 2 years than Kate will ever make, even if her and William stay together for the next 50 years. I think what probably kills kate and ma Middleton is that it’s Meghan who is reliving Diana’s legacy and not Kate. Whilst the world was obsessed with Diana and Meghan the second they appeared on the scene, there was never any hysteria around Kate ever. People only cared about Kate during the wedding and when George was born.Regardless of any negativity, Meghan is the most talked about woman in the world. The hounding in the press is the closest thing we have seen to Diana. But Meghan will come through this and continue to thrive and it will be that strength that will make her and harry a real inspiration in years to come.
Diana’s HRH was removed following her divorce, yet she remained the most photographed and popular celebrity in the world. I’d go so far as saying she became a more powerful force following her divorce – and she was able to do and say what she wanted because that HRH muzzle had been removed.
Diana is still setting an example for her children. The Royal Family really underestimated her popularity with the public. I think they’ve done exactly the same regarding the Sussexes. I think she knew that William would always belong to the Queen, but that Harry had a real shot at being a world changer.
Will Esta haciendo una gran labor, solo que es mas en su papel de futuro rey. No creo que afecte la salida de harry y meghan, a la monarquia. Al contrario, tenemos a unos futuros reyes muy comprometidos. Pese a estos inconvenientes.
Diana y porque estás hablando español esperando que las personas te entiendan?
No todo el mundo habla español… Asi que por fa, escribe tus comentários en ingés…
WORD UP.
Perdoname pero kate sigue tan popular como cuando se caso. Ni meghan pudo eclipsarla y ahora menos que ya no se vera en bp
was Meghan supposed to “eclipse” Kate? weren’t they part of the same family? you are just eating up the tabloid narrative, Adriana. You are part of the problem.
traduce esto.
Meghan y harry. Estan donde quieren estar fuera del ojo publico y si ellos estan contentos asi. ¿Porque se lamentan de que se fueron? Si no quieren volver los apoyo. Will y kate lo hacen magnifico. Bp no podria tener mejor representantes. Y no hablo ingles porque no me da la gana y nadie a puesto una regla obligatoria de hacerlo en los comentarios asi que no.
It was a beautiful speech and actually brought me to tears. Harry speaks from the heart. I hope they find all the happiness in the world on their new journey.
I am in love with this couple. They are beautiful and strong.
Like the true north, they are strong and free. (a play on our anthem) Welcome to Canada, Sussex’s. I hope it’s everything you need.
That photo first photo of Harry and Bojo is hilarious! Check out Harry’s face/jaw; it’s like he’s watching a cartoon clown.
Yes! And thinking …5…4…3…2….1….and I’m out of here.
On my news feed yesterday there was an article header that was so long it was cut off so that all you saw on the feed was, Meghan and Harry Say Goodbye to Britain and Piers Morgan…..
when you clicked on it the title continued …… and Piers Morgan has this to Say About It. And then went on to discuss Piers frothing at the mouth as fast as he can on every media platform he can use. Me — I just liked the cut off title as the Sussexes are saying goodbye to Piers and giving him a middle finger salute. 😎
All while coming for PM with the hacking lawsuit.
Bwa ha ha ha…
I hope Piers Morgan steps in dog poop! Every day!
I feel sorry for them, it must have been pretty bad to leave everything he’s ever known and a cushy set life. I hope they are happy going forward.
The RF dont realise it yet but they lost a big opportunity with the Sussexs. Look at the Africa summit pictures and compare it with the weird ones taken with William and you’ll see how uncomfortable he is (red face & hand).
It’ll become more obvious with time especially once they see harry and meghan thriving and constantly in the news especially with continued hype over Archie and possibly babysussex n.2 especially if they ever attend trooping the colour.
Unfortunately the world media will get more aggressive in covering them but they’ll have more control+ it’ll be beneficial closer to the lawsuit cases as courtiers and RRs can no longer dictate or control the narrative around the Sussexs.
Meghan certainly seems to be thriving in Canada. She was seen walking her dogs while carrying Archie and she looks positively radiant. I definitely think this is a change for the better for them.
“She was seen walking her dogs ….” More like she was stalked while walking her dogs & someone profitted from this by selling their unauthorized shots to the Fail.
Great speech! I hope soon he does one regarding his future chosen country.
If I remember back to my days of lurking on other forums (before they all pulled their white sheets out of the dryer when Meghan got here), William is afraid if Charles’ temper. He should be. Harry, the scapegoat, is gone and if Charles goes all-in on Will, the results will not be pretty.
Harry despues dejara sentenbale 😑
aprende inglés. al menos usa google translate jajaja.
Harry otro niño rico mimado. Que bueno que se fue ese fiestero.
huy si. Pero aqui andas leyendo sobre el, que estuvo alrededor de 10 años en el ejercito, con dos tours de Afganistan en su historial. Se retiro para apoyar a su familia y porque los tabloides estúpidamente compartieron su posición más de una vez. Fiestero, si, hace años de eso.
pd. aprende inglés
When I see the posts about the Harry and Meghan and Archie, I get all cosmic and send them as much love and strength as I have to muster. I also wish this for you, too, if you are someone trying to find a way out.
I predict H & M will come out on top of all of this nonsense. Fast forward 20 years : QE has passed, Charles has passed , assume the monarchy is still In place and William is King.
H&M have spent their time earning a fortune and becoming a true global power force .
They can then come back to “royal “ life as more popular, wealthier and have the power with public opinion to overshadow /run William out.
All the previous dirt will be out, books will have been written and William and Kate can suck eggs. Harry will be “better” than William rather than spare heir/ second place and make William his bitch. If I were William , my father isn’t the guy to fear…..
2020 and we are here. It’s horribly sad, but honestly it seems he’s wanted out for or a long time. I wish them all well and safety.
The black Brits on the whole do not have as many wealthy black Americans. I maybe wrong but it appears that way. Black Brits are trying to survive in a predominant white culture to make better lives for themselves. I feel there will be some racially motivated incidents in the near future in Britian. I have enjoyed reading the posters today. My heart goes out to the Sussexes and I pray for their happiness. I think there will be a lot of articles written when the dust settles showing exactly what was happening to Meghan with no RF support. Free at last, free at last. thank God almighty I am free at last.
So now the BRF is stuck with FFK & FFQC who couldn’t care less about working, as long as they get paid and are seen as the “perfect English family”; a pedo stripped of all his patronages and military appointments (who still gets money from mummy and can keep his HRH); a hard-working middle-aged couple with teenage kids; a senior citizen who works circles around 90% of the BRF membersl; a 90-something monarch who looks more out of it each and every month; and the heir and his second wife (former mistress) who seem like decent people, but don’t rock the boat and won’t defend or publicly support his younger son and daughter-in-law. They could have a dynamic spare and his wife, who brought empathy and energy to the mix and seemed more than happy to not only support TQ, but come up with their own ideas to bring the monarchy closer to the people.
I feel for Harry and Meghan; I think he really believed that Meghan would be embraced and supported as he had embraced Kate and she seemed to dive into her royal role, determined to be successful. Although I’m sure Harry warned her that the press would criticize her, I doubt he thought it would be at the level she experienced and that his son, TQ’s great-grandson, would be attacked as well. I wish them luck.