Once again, I’m waiting to see confirmation that Prince Harry has flown back to California. I think it’s very strange how Camp Sussex hasn’t confirmed anything either way, but maybe that’s by design. The longer they stay silent, the more they highlight the frantic disinformation coming from Kensington Palace, Clarence House and the British media entirely. Yesterday, the Telegraph claimed that Harry will fly back/has flown back to California and he only did so after being unable to have a private meeting with Charles, because Charles left Windsor and went to his Welsh country home by himself.
The Duke of Sussex will return to California without having a private meeting with his father, The Telegraph understands. Many family members had hoped the pair would take the opportunity to spend some time together alone, to air their differences face to face. But despite a 10,000-mile round trip, the Duke was either unable, or unwilling, to pin down the Prince of Wales, who is still coming to terms with the death of his father. While the Duke’s travel plans have not been disclosed, he is thought likely to return home to his pregnant wife, the Duchess of Sussex, 39, and their son Archie, who turns two next month, within the next day or two.
The lack of any time spent with his father suggests that feelings over his Oprah Winfrey interview are still running high and the fallout remains raw.
Having quarantined for the requisite five days after landing in the UK last week, ahead of the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral, Prince Harry would have been able to abandon self-isolation on taking a private coronavirus test under the “test to release” scheme. He is thought to have had at least two days following Saturday’s service in which to catch up with friends or family members. Should relations have thawed sufficiently with his brother, he would certainly have liked to catch up with his young nephews and niece – Prince George, seven, Princess Charlotte, five and Prince Louis, who turns three on Friday.
He may also have wanted to take the opportunity to see friends, or hold meetings with some of his remaining UK-based charities, which include WellChild and the Invictus Games Foundation.
Just so we’re clear, Prince Harry was perfectly willing to stay in the UK for a few days following Philip’s funeral, with the hope of having some one-on-one time with his father more than anyone else. And Charles was the one who left and refused to spend any additional time with Harry. And so once again, Harry looks like the bigger man, the one who is trying to reconcile in good faith, while his father and brother throw tantrums and make asses out of themselves. Why do these douchebags think it’s a good look to continue to appear angry, wrathful and punitive?
Also: I’d be willing to bet that Harry’s actual intention was to see his grandmother, however briefly, and Charles and William are making that all about themselves.
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I was reading that Chuck wanted that meeting to happen with Baldingham present because he was afraid of Harry. Chicken.
I think he’s back in California by now. He probably stayed Sunday to see the Queen, if they let him.
Of course I have zero proof of any of this. Just like the tabloids have zero information and contradicted themselves half a dozen times already.
That said, silence on Harry’s travel plan is probably by design for security reasons.
He is back. UK press is reporting he arrived back in Montecito yesterday afternoon. So he probably left on Monday night.
Come home to California, Harry. Leave them to their self-made mess.
Yup…his family is in Montecito not that creepy institution/firm or whatever
Harry is a private citizen, his travel plans aren’t our business and I’m sure there are huge security concerns around his travel plans.
exactly my thoughts, house Sussex only speak when they have something relevant to say. It also helps clear up the muddy waters that they aren’t speaking regularly, gives less validity to all the gossipy stories allegedly from their camp. as time goes on they’re giving the other houses enough rope to hang themselves
I love that we don’t know where he is. Point proven, leaving the firm was the only thing for them to do. I personally hope he’s home with Meghan, celebrating the guilty verdict and justice for George Floyd, but I’m glad I don’t know for sure. Whose camp is the problem again?
I hope that at this point harry doesn’t care and if his brother and father want to reconcile THEY should come to HIM. I do think harry would want to see the queen, also because her birthday is so close.
But it could very well be that he has already flown back and nobody either confirms nor denies it because of safety reasons.
Let us remember that Charles just lost his father. Maybe drama isn’t what he needs right now. I’m on Harry’s side, but losing a parent is very hard.
I think this is part of it – I don’t see Harry “forcing” a huge conversation on Charles at this moment in time, or Charles having the emotional energy to “force” a convo with Harry. My guess is that Harry knew Charles was going to Wales* and that may have impacted his plans to stay, but it wasnt a surprise.
*did not know Charles had a country house in Wales.
That’s a good point. I wouldn’t be in the mood for heavy, fraught conversations either.
Yeah, I lost my father earlier this year and I could barely function for a couple weeks. I would totally have gone off alone to my house in Wales if I had one. Charles looked devastated at the funeral. I doubt he can handle much at the moment. Hence escaping to his house in Wales to be alone.
I agree. And maybe Harry knows this hence why he wasn’t expecting a big 2 hour sit down like some papers were reporting but perhaps more of an informal chat for about 10-15 minutes, which Charles didn’t want to do. And I don’t blame him, not right now.
If Charles doesn’t want drama but time to grieve then why has he leaked a story about going for a walk with Harry after the funeral as well as another about a letter sent to him by Harry?
In all honesty I find it hard to feel sorry for Charles. I wondered during the funeral if his tears were manufactured for public sympathy. It seemed so contrary to the stiff upper lip stoicism of Brits and more pointedly British monarchs. I would have thought that if he is grieving the loss of his father and by extension reflecting on the significance of fatherhood then he’d make every effort to talk to Harry instead of leaking stories about him.
Charles is supposedly ‘grieving’ but he managed to leak that story about the cars and forcing the brothers to walk and talk,Charles leaked Harry’s letter and Charles reunited his sons…Charles is in Wales…yeah Charles is multitasking
Prince Charles has never been the stiff upper lip type. Being so emotional is one of the reasons he had issues with his parents. They didn’t understand him. I don’t think he’s leaking stories. The press don’t need leaks to make up these kinds of stories.
The same Charles who took heartlessly Harry’s security and who Meghan begged to let him keep his security not for Archie or her but because her husband was in danger and targeted by white supremacist or is-it Charles who mistreated 19 year old Diana,or is-it Charles with his communicator threw Harry under the bus about visiting that drug center? No one could ever convinced that Charles is not a cold hearted manipulator,a Windsor…
I thought they were suppose to go on a walk on Sunday. Harry & Charles. Did that happen & then Charles left? He did just lose his father. No one knows what their relationship was of late & I think we all grieve at the loss of a monumental figure in your life regardless of how close or distant the relationship.
The whole group went back up the hill to the castle after the service. I suspect that Charles and Harry had a short walk & talk in the private garden there, before everyone went their separate ways. It was probably as simple as “We need to have a real conversation but not here and not right now. It was good to see you.”
If Harry’s staying for anyone, I expect it’s his grandmother. But the fact that the press don’t know means he hasn’t told the leakers, which suggests he’s not trying to talk to his brother or father.
If I were him, I wouldn’t be putting in the effort when it came to Charles and William. I’d be waiting for them to reach out with an apology (which would be a very very very long time coming).
I think he’s back in California. I think the fact that we don’t know for sure means Charles and William don’t know for sure, which is interesting, right? It shows the level of trust Harry has for his family.
Bingo.
I agree. I don’t think they know what Harry is doing and I don’t think that a meeting took place. Charles hightailed it out of there as soon as could, Harry has essentially disappeared, and nobody is commenting on Cain’s whereabouts, which is interesting. Where the hell is he? I think they are spinning this as Harry wanted a meeting and was left in the wind, because the reality is that he didn’t care about seeing them.
I think this is the case too. Honestly — why DO we need to know where he is? He is now a private citizen, for all intents and purposes. And by releasing an official statement on whether he’s left or not, that just gives the rat rota more fodder for their hate speech. He doesn’t owe them, (or us, TBH) one word of acknowledgment. We’ll find out when we get some confirmation of him doing some work-related thing, or he’s out bike riding with Archie, etc.
I hope he’s back, eff those Royal trash, he has a glorious life to continue in Cali with his real family, wife, kid(s), Doria and assorted chosen family members, Serena & Alex O, & their darling daughter for example.
If he wants to stay and visit his grandmother for her birthday, I wouldn’t be surprised. I know people have been saying this for the last 5-10 years but it could be her last birthday especially as she’s lost her husband of 73 years and older couples tend to die close to each other. Or maybe she’ll live to 101 like her mother.
Anyways, I don’t think we’ll get any confirmation other than “Harry is in quarantine” or even “He’s left quarantine and is back with Meghan and Archie”
I don’t know why people are emphasizing that Harry must see her on the exact day of her birthday. Why couldn’t he visit a few days before? Have a nice chat. Give her a present. It’s not like she’s having a birthday party. She can’t because of COVID. And quite frankly, she probably not in the mood after burying her husband.
There would be nothing wrong with Harry visiting a few days early before leaving.
She’s not my grandmother and I’m not Harry so if he wants to stay till her actual birthday then that’s the decision he has taken (and maybe this was planned before he left).
As a fan and outsider, I don’t have to agree with their decisions or understand why they made them but I accept that it’s the decision they want to take – again, even if I don’t agree with or think it’s not a good idea.
Because it’s THE day of her birthday?
Maybe it’s a cultural thing. Where I live, the exact date is the one that matters, at least for wishes (before is considered bad luck and after rude). Then party over the weekend. I don’t know how Americans and the British handle this, tho.
Well, I don’t think early or late celebrations are considered rude, considering the Queen has the Trooping in June for her April bday, lol, but I can see Harry wanting to stay IF he could see her just because…he went all that way, he’s there, it’s her bday, why not stay the extra day to see her on her 95th bday?
but maybe it’s not something she is focused on so he has already left.
Chuck and Bill are still snitching to the press. That’s OK but Harry directly talking to Gayle King isn’t?
I’m actually quite glad there is no info on his whereabouts. The tabloids are scrambling and there are so many false narratives out there because they don’t know his plans….I love how he keeps things private, good for security reasons too! I hope he is well and safe.
I thought he would have wanted to talk to his dad but who knows how Charles felt post funeral. I lost both parents in my 30s so I can’t imagine being a 70 something in same situation. But Charles start adulting
Aside from the whole ‘down with the monarchy’ as a sentiment, with which I fully agree, how completely unworkable these people seem as a family group. What a hideous group of people – how on earth can they behave like this and think it’s normal and acceptable?
The leaks from various palaces, brother against brother, father against son, father in law against daughter in law. What kind of awful family environment. And how selfish is Charles swanning off to Wales, not spending any time with his bereaved mother, son he hasn’t seen for a year, or wife.
This group of people is utterly preposterous and dysfunctional as a family group, let alone head of state and heirs.
I hope Harry flies back to California soon and stays with his family. Jesus.
That Windsor family is strange….I just don’t understand their dynamics…it seems like a battle of houses,they are just not on the same page…I understand now why William seems more close with Kate family or those narratives about Harry feeling alone(before meeting Meghan) or Harry telling Meghan to make sure to ‘keep that ring on her finger’…they have to clean house with their courtiers or have the same message
I haven’t heard about the “keep that ring on…”, what was that about?
And I totally agree about the family dynamics and everything else you said. It’s just so odd that the queen came from a close-knit family and yet raised her children to be so emotionally distant. It’s obvious that Charles was very hands-off with his children much the same way his own mother was hands-off with him, and add that to the ingrained hierarchy within the family where the heir is lavished with positivity and the spare is treated as an afterthought…one brother gets a sense of self-worth from a false narrative (that he’s better because he’s first), and the other has to build a sense of self-worth from scratch. I wonder how different both brothers would have turned out if Diana had lived longer.
On the engagement interview,Harry was describing the ring and when he was finishing he said to Meghan something like ‘make sure that stays ont that finger’ and she laughed and said of course
And I agree with you about that heir and spare dynamic,it’s totally unhealthy and problematic and so siblings can never bond…That’s why I admire Harry cause he grew from his mistakes and learned,he could have turned like Andrew ,super arrogant…and William having sycophants won’t help him grow(in that Tim shipman articles,courtiers were telling him Harry’s popularity was temporary like he was jealous of his brother cause he thought he should be the one being popular…crazy )
If Diana was still here,I don’t know it would have changed something:boys were already in boarding schools and part time with their father and some even said that Diana was grooming Harry to be the spare and helping William,she was still an aristocratic and believed in monarchy
Diana was ousted from that family. I think her sympathy would be with Harry and Meghan. William is more like Charles now.
Charles has spent his entire life getting lost in his emotions. His crumbling off to Wales to “grieve and think” is par for the course.
Seems like their good behaviour lasted all of one day. They are ultimately their own worst enemies. Once the international spotlight left, they resorted back to their mean-spirited, tone-deaf selves. I am quite happy with that. Every time they show the world who they are, I believe them. It’s when they try to be nice that I’m confused.
Thank God the leaks have finally stopped. Charles is finally able to muzzle Willileaks.
@RoyalBlue – I don’t think they’ve stopped leaking info so much as they have no access to Harry’s because he’s locked his down.
It’s for the best that Harry’s travel plans are unknown at this point. Still worried for his safety in salty isle. Will be good for him to get back home to Montecito.
The British tabloids/media are on an insatiable feeding frenzy, it is sick to see the polarizing headlines only to read all the speculation and unnamed sources regurgitating whatever suits there narrative for the moment. They have no right to the itinerary of a Private citizen making a personal trip on his own funds. Especially when traveling anywhere is a very real personal security concern.
They need to leave H&M alone, push the Queen Kate agenda but leave the Sussex’s out of the headlines and story.
After reading Twitter this morning the nastiness is at an epic level.. sadly it is on both sides.
These are people like them or not, most of us will never meet or even see them beyond an interview or photo. They are entertainment, a glimpse into a Royal world in real time. It is escapism from dishes, jobs, television and the endless pandemic. People need to learn that in the end this is a family and families do sometimes not speak and sometimes reconcile but nothing we say or post, good or bad, will change anything they do. You will wake up today, and go to sleep tonight just fine no matter if PH is in California or Windsor.
As for the British tabloid media stop feeding the online hate they thrive on, start sending letters & emails to people in power who can change the practices of “made up news” for profit at the personal expense of others.
The tabloid press may decide after baby Sussex that Meghan is redeemed in their narrative and come after the next target.. they seem to love to build them up, tear them down and make them rise from the ashes. So anyone in public life should take this seriously.
Meghan will never be redeemed in the British press and she was never built up,they always tore her down…She was never ‘enough’ for Harry in their eyes so….
Something nice on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BFBSSport/status/1384464676851830797
I am glad we have no idea where Harry is. It’s proof he has a good security team also proves that he isn’t really speaking to his family because they would leak when he would fly back.
There have been so many articles regarding Harry, Will and Charles and they are all over the place. It’s insane.
It’s so weird how apparently knows where he is when he was staying at Frogmore Cottage where Eugenie also lives and which is located on the Windsor Castle grounds. Makes me wonder if there actually was an embargo put on briefing from the Queen on her household. It’s very clear that there’s something weird going on with RRs’ sources because all of the stories from the last few days have been even more contradictory than usual. They’re all just throwing random s*** at the wall to see what sticks and they look frantic and stupid. Its rather unfair that some, including some who claim to be H&M supporters are buying it.
As for no confirmation from Harry’s team: i feel like they only did that confirmation when he landed in the UK so that people would know he did 5 days quarantine before the funeral. As i doubt he’s going to be out in public in CA i wouldn’t expect an official statement on that.
I’m sure they have airports staked out. It does show that Eugenie and Jack are trustworthy.
If I were Harry, I would take the train to Paris, then fly home from there. Tabloid press can stake out all the English airports they want and he won’t be flying out from any of them.
@nanny
Maybe it is. In my family, we send birthday wishes day of but if there is a gathering, it’s the closest weekend, when everyone is free. No one would expect a party in the middle of a work week.
Harry deserves so much better than what he gets from that family and by extension the press. He is a grown man, his decisions are his to make. Also we know even though we don’t, that any effort being made to heal the rift between Harry, Chucky and baldy is Harry doing all the heavy lifting because those other two are too petty and vengeful and arrogant to be decent human beings.
To visit his own grandmother he has to make an appointment so if he wanted to visit her we would have known it by now because the palace sources would have leaked it to press. I think Harry has gone home.
Can’t leak Harry’s plans if they aren’t known. Harry isn’t going to share that information with Willileaks. That’s why we got those stories about Nottingham Cottage. William didn’t know and his info was suspect.
I don’t include Charles in this because, frankly, the man lost a father. I doubt he’s doing much except grieving. Also, he’s been in contact with Harry and didn’t leak when he arrived and where he was staying.
As for the Queen, he’s at Windsor. She’s at Windsor. They could have met and the BM would never know.
Did Harry originally tell Wills he was staying at Nott Cottage to see if it leaked? Hahahahaha. By now Wills must know that he has publicly failed a test.
I kind of love how little they know of Harry’s movements and plans! GOOD. To me, that means his security is working and he hasn’t been sharing his plans with his brother/father.
Whatever “reconciliation” talks may or may not be afoot, it doesn’t seem like he trusts them yet.
All the tabloids can do is write fan fiction. They have as little knowledge of Harry and Meghan’s plans as I do. So they just follow the formula of writing a bunch of garbage and figure something they write may be true. They are still pushing the narrative of Harry the Prodigal Som, which is hilarious, as Harry does not need anything the Firm has to offer. He quit the firm, as was his right, as is any of our rights to quit a business. And as I’ve said before, if the future of the royal family is dependent on the 6th in line to the throne’s presence, then they have monumental problems, and the relevancy of the institution itself must be held in serious doubt.
I’m a little amused that all of the reporting is basically Harry begging for forgiveness when it’s he and Meghan who have been treated horribly. I think it’s a take it or leave it situation. If Charles and William want to talk he’s willing but if they don’t, Harry would be fine with it. Also I think all of this would have been planned ahead of Harry’s arrival. I doubt they would decide last minute to have a in person talk. Besides he’s been there for a week. That’s plenty of time to have even a basic conversation or to plan something.
It is thought, it is believed, it is claimed… that whole article is just speculation to cover all bases. LOL
All right wring British press is written like this:just fan fiction and the sources are super whack and the danger is many ppl believe that…British press is ranked 33 behind Jamaican,Namibian press…they are just untrustworthy
I could believe that Harry would stay to meet with some of his patronages, if that is possible, and maybe even some of Meghan’s on her behalf.
Over It: You nailed it: a petty, vengeful and arrogant family. These qualities explain ALL of their behavior towards Meghan and Harry.
Go home Harry. Get away.
I love, love, love the fact that no one know for sure what Harry’s travel plans are because it exposes the RR’s. The only info the get is what is spoon fed to them. I think the Sussexes aren’t talking about his travel because it is a security risk. When he arrived in the U.K. the tabloids said he was at KP. They corrected and made clear that he was isolating alone which killed any possibility of stories about him meeting with family members. Also, right now I think they the Sussexes are sitting back monitoring the BRF/BM spin. There is a saying. that says something like “Don’t interrupt your enemy when they are making mistakes”. And all this spinning and competing stories is definitely going to backfire.
He may be back in California or he may not. Sounding like a tabloid writer now. The only thing I feel certain he’ll do/or has done before going back to his new home, life, job, wife, child and soon to be child is taking a long hot shower to wash away the saltiness of the white island.
I think he left the UK Saturday night and is quarantining in a hotel in Los Angeles. I doubt we’ll hear anything more of it.
I think you have it right.
I believe their home has a separate guest house. Therefore, no risk of nosey hotel workers tipping off the press. TMZ would pay a fortune for that info.
I read that there were living arrangements made for when Grandma comes to visit at both homes.. he stayed in the renovated in-law quarters at Frogmore according to a report I read. Makes sense if you have it you would use it.
So now I read a report without any sources so take it for what it is..
it stated that Prince Harry bought an open ended return ticket which actually makes sense with a pregnant wife and covid issues going home early or staying later are real possibilities. The statement said he was staying for the Queens birthday.
As much as I want confirmation that he’s back in loving arms at Montecito, I kinda hope H&M stay radio silent until their next business or philanthropic announcement whenever. Just to see heads explode in the meantime.
Prince Harry has arrived back in LA this afternoon around 1 o’clock today and arrived back at Montecito around 4 pm-I am happy he got back safely and I know that Harry and Meghan will continue working on their relationship with the royal family in the UK.