Comments on: Chynna Phillips on how she heard about her sister’s relationship with their dad

By: elvisgrace

elvisgrace — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:38:41 +0000

{“Yes, maybe she is ready to come out and discuss it, but does it have to be timed with a book to sell? Could she maybe have come out with this now and written the book later or pushed the book release to another time. Seems like she is taking advantage of the furor and scandal over this in order to profit.”}

The book she’s promoting is her memoir. Where you talk about the events in your life? This being one of the events in her life? One of her life events that is in her memoir? The book she’s “promoting”? It isn’t about profit, it’s about how she wrote about her life, in this book, and now people want to interview her about what she wrote in this book? See?
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eternalcanadian
eternalcanadian:
September 24th, 2009 at 9:27 am

{“Okay, first of all John Phillips had five children. Mackenzie, Chynna, Bijou, Jeffrey, and Tamerlane. How is it only Mackenzie is the one whacked out and claiming incest? He was also married four times. How is it Mackenzie didn’t tell her mum or stepmums what was going on? I could understand if this started when Mackenzie was 9, it would have been a power thing, and being only 9 she wouldn’t have known any better. But to claim this started when she was 19, an adult, with knowledge of right and wrong, she let her father shag her. There’s something really fishy and not quite right about the story. The guy is dead, he can’t confirm or deny. Look, incest is wrong, but when you’re 19 years old you are not exactly a helpless 9 year old child, and to let it go on for ten years until you are 30 years old, drugged up or not, it is really difficult to give Mackenzie credibility. “}

The incest thing – it is very common for abusive parents to single out one child for abuse, and treat the other children normally. Also, maybe we haven’t heard about additional molestation YET. Just because she was the first to discuss it, doesn’t mean she’s the only one who was abused. Tamerlane was sent off to boarding school.Not he’s off his nut in some cult. Bijou and Chyna have both had substance abuse problems. Bijou has been in rehab, and she stabbed someone a while back. She was also taken away from the Phillips, and placed in foster care until she was in third grade. Bijou is a major scientologist, and Chyna is a devout born again christian, and again with Tamerlane and his cult. In a recent interview he referred to his family as a bowl of dog urine. I’d say there’s a pretty strong fact pattern to indicate that all these children have undergone one form of abuse or another. Mackenzie channeled her pain into drugs, and it seems her siblings channel that into intense religion.

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By: Island Lady

Island Lady — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:28:51 +0000

I believe Mackenzie. I can relate to her because I had a brother 10 yrs. older than me who introduced me to pot when I was 13 yrs. old and then had a very inapropriate conversations with me about his feelings for me. They were not brotherly! I was so innocent and I loved him because he was my brother. It was so confusing, I knew what he was saying was wrong but I thought he needed someone to be nice to him so he could get on the right track. Nothing physical ever happened but it was sexual and emotional abuse just the same, I can’t imagine what she has gone through and is still going through. I never told anyone because I knew they wouldn’t want to hear it and I certainly did’nt want to talk about it. It’s not an ordinary problem and people do blame the victim or say they are weird or lying. I hope she finds true peace and realizes that her father was a predator with his own child and she is blameless. There is a special place in Hell for people like him.

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By: eternalcanadian

eternalcanadian — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:27:51 +0000

Okay, first of all John Phillips had five children. Mackenzie, Chynna, Bijou, Jeffrey, and Tamerlane. How is it only Mackenzie is the one whacked out and claiming incest? He was also married four times. How is it Mackenzie didn’t tell her mum or stepmums what was going on? I could understand if this started when Mackenzie was 9, it would have been a power thing, and being only 9 she wouldn’t have known any better. But to claim this started when she was 19, an adult, with knowledge of right and wrong, she let her father shag her. There’s something really fishy and not quite right about the story. The guy is dead, he can’t confirm or deny. Look, incest is wrong, but when you’re 19 years old you are not exactly a helpless 9 year old child, and to let it go on for ten years until you are 30 years old, drugged up or not, it is really difficult to give Mackenzie credibility.

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By: NayNay

NayNay — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:52:09 +0000

I really hope that she didn’t lie about being raped by her father. That is a god awful thing, if it did happen, and even more awful if it didn’t happen. That is, to make up such a horrible thing like that.

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By: Ro

Ro — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 10:13:41 +0000

What I found interesting is that she still doesn’t understand her father’s motives for starting her on drugs in the first place. It was obviously to promote inappropriate behavior. I think that shows she is still not dealing with it totally yet. I remember a long time ago when she used to tell this story about having sex with some celebrity when she was just a teenager and her father was in the other room.
I don’t think I ever heard him deny it. She still sees him as her father so she is making excuses but if she just looks at him as a predator she will get the whole picture.

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By: Misty_

Misty_ — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:47:49 +0000

Although I feel very guilty to say this, because I’m a woman and abuse is something very scary but possible for women of all ages (and I hate to judge people, but sometimes you just can’t help it), I’m somehow skeptical with Mackenzie. Maybe some things she said really happened, but I also think that she may be stretching the truth in some points to make the book she’s promoting more juicy.

Let’s face it: Mackenzie hasn’t worked in years and she probably needs money. And we all know how much the average Joe loves to read about the tragedies in the lives of the “beautiful people” born with silver spoons in their mouths.

Shit like “My mom killed my dad”, “I had sex with my dog” or “I slept with my brother” in the cover of tabloids sell and put people back on the map. Why would anyone bother to read Mackenzie’s memoir if it wasn’t for this kind of thing? It’s all very convenient. John is dead and the people who were close to him are either dead or just don’t care. Sorry if I’m saying is cruel, but I try to give some deeper thought to the things I hear instead of immediately believing in everything people tell me.

In fact, Bill Robinson, in this amazing article of 2006 explains this uncomfortable phenomenon of the pop culture confession (and what Oprah has got to do with it) better than I do http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-robinson/how-to-sell-your-soul-for_b_24655.html
And you’ve got to consider that Mackenzie was a hardcore drug addict for her whole life. Her memory isn’t that reliable. Drugs mess up with the brain.

I just want to make clear that I’m not, by any means, defending John, because although I didn’t know him personally, he had the reputation of being completely fucked up on drugs/alcohol and perverse with his “loved” ones. I’m just trying to point out that Mackenzie is hardly the most credible source in the world. Her motivation behind those “confessions” seems shady sometimes. People should think more about it, instead of jumping so quickly to conclusions.

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By: trichster

trichster — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:31:57 +0000

Thought provoking thread on soo many levels.

@ ND- so with you. Here’s the thing I didn’t see anyone else address– TEN YEARS!?! Ok incest/ rape … But this started in a drug induced haze- and then went on TEN YEARS in other word til she was almost 30? It sounds to me more like a massive “addiction” – she had screwed up (totally) ideas of what “love” was- someone “loved” her- he also had srugs for her– etc etc– and she chose to let it continue 10 years. Sure there’s all kinds of grossness and wrongness and illegal aspects with the adult/parent/child aspect BUT we are also talking about a woman who had the opportunity for a decade to pull away from it. There’s a lot more here going on- and probably a true “love” she had in return.

@ Birdie. Simply stated. A beautiful and eloquent reply.

@ ! I really understand how you feel. That’s me A LOT. To the point I sometimes feel like I HATE. Turns out I also have Lyme Disease… Crazy non-sequetor, but it might help to check. My anger was so intense it almost cost me my job, marriage and a lot more. Fuck!ng ticks…

Hugs to you all.

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By: Brandy M

Brandy M — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:02:46 +0000

So that is whats wrong with bijou phillips?

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By: Taya

Taya — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:50:35 +0000

I believe Mackenzie. If you are willing to shoot your child up with heroin, then you ar very willing to rape them. She is a victim, no matter the age in which it happened.

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By: nj

nj — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 02:13:34 +0000

I believe her. Why the hell would she say all of that? That it happened over years and she sort if let it keep happening? If she just wanted salacious detail she could have left it at it happened once. John Phillips was a sick and immoral piece of filth and to those who knock Mackenzie-not fair, people. She never really had a chance. When you are raised in that manner, you really do not. Drug abuse, Writing a book, talk shows, revealing all the details- let her get it out. She can do what she wants. I will not stand in judgement of her. I had 2 loving parents and a stable home. I cannot and will not pass judgement on her. I only hope she finds peace.

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