Comments on: Mad Men’s Vincent Kartheiser cries like a little girl at weddings http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/ Stylish celebrity escapism Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:13:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fancyamazon http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508597 fancyamazon Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:21:18 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508597 It's defintitely not about getting "fat and miserable". Especially in this economic climate, a marriage cannot be about one single breadwinner, just as it isn't about one single child-rearer anymore. But it is about a lot more than" I like you, lets have a series of parties and then a pretty ceremony so I can be a princess for a day". It’s defintitely not about getting “fat and miserable”. Especially in this economic climate, a marriage cannot be about one single breadwinner, just as it isn’t about one single child-rearer anymore. But it is about a lot more than” I like you, lets have a series of parties and then a pretty ceremony so I can be a princess for a day”.

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]]> By: michellllle http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508223 michellllle Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:15:40 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508223 I loathe Pete, Vincent however seems lovely. The power of good acting a well written script I suppose. I loathe Pete, Vincent however seems lovely. The power of good acting a well written script I suppose.

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]]> By: Ally http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508153 Ally Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:33:45 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508153 Beyond romantic love, marriage is about constituting a family where there are no blood ties, whether you end up having kids or not. It's about being able to feel confident that you can rely on each other emotionally, financially and legally, as you would with other members of your family. Some people can create that bond without an actual marriage and more power to them, but the formal process is as popular as it is because of how effective it is at the new-family-creation thing. Re: Kartheiser, I had that love-hate thing with the character, too, and even hoped that those darn kids (Pete and Peggy) would end up together in a not-toxic relationship, but after he basically blackmailed the neighbors' nanny into sex, I'm rooting for him no more. Pete's soul is blackened beyond redemption! Beyond romantic love, marriage is about constituting a family where there are no blood ties, whether you end up having kids or not.

It’s about being able to feel confident that you can rely on each other emotionally, financially and legally, as you would with other members of your family.

Some people can create that bond without an actual marriage and more power to them, but the formal process is as popular as it is because of how effective it is at the new-family-creation thing.

Re: Kartheiser, I had that love-hate thing with the character, too, and even hoped that those darn kids (Pete and Peggy) would end up together in a not-toxic relationship, but after he basically blackmailed the neighbors’ nanny into sex, I’m rooting for him no more. Pete’s soul is blackened beyond redemption!

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]]> By: BW http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508151 BW Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:32:29 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508151 Look people. Marriage is not a new institution. The guy said he didn't know what marriage was for, and I just stated why it was invented. I didn't say it was for everyone. I didn't say I was for or against it. Look people. Marriage is not a new institution. The guy said he didn’t know what marriage was for, and I just stated why it was invented. I didn’t say it was for everyone. I didn’t say I was for or against it.

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]]> By: Iggles http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508149 Iggles Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:31:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508149 Firestarter - Awesome. A few days ago I caught the end of the Cordelia/Connor get it on episode. So wrong and icky, yet I could not look away. I kind of feel like Connor was a tragic character. I feel for Cordelia too because the whole demon possession thing was kind of sad (kudos for Joss for the most original way to explain a lead actress's pregnacy!). A word of about marriage - I agree that we've ventured from the norm. It's good that some of the oppression of traditional marriage has fallen away. However, in some respects we've thrown the baby out with the bath water because some of the <i>benefits</i> of marriage have been severely weakened. It's like we've traded marriage for dating with rings! Firestarter – Awesome. A few days ago I caught the end of the Cordelia/Connor get it on episode. So wrong and icky, yet I could not look away.

I kind of feel like Connor was a tragic character. I feel for Cordelia too because the whole demon possession thing was kind of sad (kudos for Joss for the most original way to explain a lead actress’s pregnacy!).

A word of about marriage – I agree that we’ve ventured from the norm. It’s good that some of the oppression of traditional marriage has fallen away. However, in some respects we’ve thrown the baby out with the bath water because some of the benefits of marriage have been severely weakened. It’s like we’ve traded marriage for dating with rings!

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]]> By: Jeri http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508059 Jeri Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:19:35 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508059 Some of you folks discussing marriage sound like you're from the 1800's. Sounds like some of you women want to be able to quit taking care of yourselves, get fat and miserable and then guarantee he'll never be able to leave you. It's not so much the fat but living with someone that is bitter & miserable is a b-tch! Some of you folks discussing marriage sound like you’re from the 1800′s. Sounds like some of you women want to be able to quit taking care of yourselves, get fat and miserable and then guarantee he’ll never be able to leave you. It’s not so much the fat but living with someone that is bitter & miserable is a b-tch!

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]]> By: fancyamazon http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-508045 fancyamazon Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:09:30 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-508045 BW is totally correct, and the fact that western culture has gone so far from the (yes, idyllic, and not always workable, but fairly good system for all parties, not just the women) norm is sad. Marriage also provided a wider family net for older members of the community to fall back on so they wouldn't become "useless" as they could help with child-rearing and still be looked after in their old age, instead of crammed into nursing homes and forgotten and neglected, like so many are today. BW is totally correct, and the fact that western culture has gone so far from the (yes, idyllic, and not always workable, but fairly good system for all parties, not just the women) norm is sad. Marriage also provided a wider family net for older members of the community to fall back on so they wouldn’t become “useless” as they could help with child-rearing and still be looked after in their old age, instead of crammed into nursing homes and forgotten and neglected, like so many are today.

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]]> By: Chris Johnson http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-507956 Chris Johnson Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:11:54 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-507956 Hi BW. You said, regarding marriage, "It’s so the woman has security in her old age or if she has children." That comment doesn't make much sense considering that in the U.S. a man and woman can get divorced at any time. Marriage doesn't guarantee anything to anyone. If a man is so screwed up that he wants to end a long marriage so he can get a "younger model" then I say good riddance to the jerk. Hi BW. You said, regarding marriage, “It’s so the woman has security in her old age or if she has children.” That comment doesn’t make much sense considering that in the U.S. a man and woman can get divorced at any time. Marriage doesn’t guarantee anything to anyone. If a man is so screwed up that he wants to end a long marriage so he can get a “younger model” then I say good riddance to the jerk.

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]]> By: BW http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-507945 BW Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:06:37 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-507945 Ra: I didn't say it kept anyone from leaving. But the whole purpose, going back centuries (in Judaism) was to give women some rights. That's why Jewish weddings have a contract that is signed and given to the bride. Otherwise men were free to come and go as they pleased. At least with a contract, they were responsible for support. You'd still have to take them to court, and they still might not pay, but the point was to have some sort of security. I didn't say it always worked. Ra: I didn’t say it kept anyone from leaving. But the whole purpose, going back centuries (in Judaism) was to give women some rights. That’s why Jewish weddings have a contract that is signed and given to the bride. Otherwise men were free to come and go as they pleased. At least with a contract, they were responsible for support. You’d still have to take them to court, and they still might not pay, but the point was to have some sort of security. I didn’t say it always worked.

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]]> By: Firestarter http://www.celebitchy.com/78595/vincent_kartheiser_cries_like_a_little_girl_at_weddings_needs_front_page_img/#comment-507940 Firestarter Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:01:08 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=78595#comment-507940 Iggles- I saw Angel this morning too. I always had missed that episode and finally got to see it. Iggles- I saw Angel this morning too. I always had missed that episode and finally got to see it.

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