The emails between Jeffrey Epstein & Larry Summers are completely bonkers

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While there’s an abundance of depravity in the new cache of emails to and from Jeffrey Epstein, there’s another big shock: how many important people with significant jobs checked in with Epstein or were familiar enough with him to have his email address and chat with him about more mundane things. For example, Larry Summers had previously disclosed his regret at having some kind of friendship with Epstein, but Summers never indicated how close they were. Summers is all over these emails. Summers is a former Treasury Secretary (under Bill Clinton) and former president of Harvard. Keep in mind, Summers has been a well-known sexist for many years – it’s why he was kicked out of Harvard – but the icing on the degenerate cake is that Summers was regularly, and in the past decade, seeking personal advice from Epstein. They seemingly had a warm, friendly relationship, well after everyone knew what Epstein was.

Jeffrey Epstein and Lawrence H. Summers, the former Treasury secretary, corresponded regularly, with Mr. Epstein at times offering advice about Mr. Summers’s relationship with a woman, emails released on Wednesday show. The correspondence, which took place in 2017, 2018 and 2019, suggests a far cozier and more intimate relationship between the two men than was previously known. The emails, some sent multiple times a day, were released by House Republicans along with more than 20,000 pages of documents.

President Trump was a frequent topic. Mr. Epstein described him in December 2018 as “borderline insane.” But many of the emails centered on Mr. Summers’s conversations and interactions with a woman living in London.

In some exchanges, Mr. Epstein referred to Mr. Summers’s interactions with her as though they were a sport. In a March 16, 2019, email, Mr. Summers appeared concerned about the woman’s involvement with another person.

“I said what are you up to. She said ‘I’m busy,’” Mr. Summers wrote to Mr. Epstein. “I said awfully coy u are. And then I said. Did u really rearrange the weekend we were going to be together because guy number 3 was coming”

Minutes later, Mr. Epstein replied: “shes smart. making you pay for past errors. ignore the daddy im going to go out with the motorcycle guy, you reacted well.. annoyed shows caring., no whining showed strentgh.”

The newly released conversations between the two men took place years after Mr. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to prostitution-related charges. Many of the exchanges occurred after an investigation by The Miami Herald about a secret plea deal, bringing Mr. Epstein back into the spotlight. Mr. Summers declined to comment on Wednesday beyond referring to previous remarks in which he acknowledged “regretting my past associations with Mr. Epstein.” (Mr. Summers is a contributing writer for The New York Times Opinion section.)

In November 2018, Mr. Summers forwarded Mr. Epstein an email from a woman whom the former Treasury secretary had corresponded with: “Think no response for a while probably appropriate.”

“She’s already begining to sound needy 🙂 nice,” Mr. Epstein replied.

[From The NY Times]

Just a convicted predator emailing romantic advice to a former Treasury Secretary and major academic. That’s not all – Summers was full of sexist banter and then, at the end, he wrote “DO NOT REPEAT THIS INSIGHT.” The way all of these men (and some women) treated Epstein like he was just some guy, or a friend to banter with, is absolutely insane. Oh, and Epstein also emails Summers about Trump, saying Trump does not have “one decent cell in his body.”

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55 Responses to “The emails between Jeffrey Epstein & Larry Summers are completely bonkers”

  1. Royal Downfall Watcher says:

    When Jeffrey Epstein thinks you suck….

  2. Eurydice says:

    I used to work for Larry Summers – there were so many more reasons he was booted out of Harvard. There was buyer’s remorse from the minute he walked in the door. A certified a-hole.

    • kirk says:

      Tell us more.

    • Ciotog says:

      He also seems borderline illiterate in all these emails. Like a certified moron. This is what I imagine Prince William writes like. And this guy ran the most prestigious university in the US?!

      • Becks1 says:

        I saw a quote on threads that was something like, maybe the most surprising thing to come out of these emails is realizing how functionally illiterate these millionaires and billionaires are.

      • Veronica S. says:

        My friend and I were talking about how that really jumps out at you reading these emails: how bad their grammar, vocabulary, and general spelling and typing skills are. You can tell, at their core, even beyond their moral decrepitude, they’re just genuinely artless and uncultured people.

    • NotMika says:

      Is there anything you can tell us that gives us some insight on his shitty character without getting into trouble?

      • bananapanda says:

        If I remember correctly, Summers truly believed in dubious genetic nonsense that women are less intelligent (and probably minorities too).

        My older cousin went after him hard at an alumni weekend speech – apparently Summers was apoplectic but couldn’t show it bc that class raised a lot of $$$ (and had estate $ which Harvard wanted).

    • Emcee3 says:

      Perhaps using pig-Latin would be of use in spilling some tea here. Because Larry is indeed a major oinker.

    • Moira's Rose's Garden says:

      Heard the same thing from alum although I have to wonder if he were university president now if there would have been the same remorse. After all, the University kept the $$ from Epstein & the Sackler family, even refusing to rename the buildings but did bother to refuse Jane Fonda’s $$.

    • Me at home says:

      Oooh, I used to work with Larry Summers too. He was good to me, a woman, although his disgusting comments here make me rethink all that. His staff all thought he was an ahole, and a senior staffer who Larry had just teamed out actually called him an ahole on a conference call.

      Although id be stunned if he has any kind of sex drive.

      • Eurydice says:

        He thought he knew better than anybody about everything. He’d sweep into various departments, picking fights and make disparaging comments about everyone’s work. And he thought he was smarter than anyone at Harvard’s investment management company, by-passing all their advice to enter into a series of ill-considered and poorly crafted interest rate swaps that lost the university $1.8 billion. And then the cat fight with Cornell West and the Russia thing and the “women in science” thing and the Epstein thing, which was a thing even back then – it was an exhausting 5 years.

  3. Lala11_7 says:

    My G-D…that email dump is so 🤬 gross! ESPECIALLY that email that 🤬🤬🤬 Epstein sent to the CURRENT AMBASSADOR TO TURKEY…I was almost SICK to my stomach…I can not BELIEVE the choices 🇺🇸 made in the last 10 years!😠

    • Royal Downfall Watcher says:

      I remember when politics wasn’t life or death every day all day long. I feel like I have aged 20 years in the past 10. The current of fear and exhaustion is relentless.

    • Mac says:

      I’m disgusted Merrick Garland didn’t release all this in 2021. This isn’t salacious gossip. Epstein is bordering on treason and Sommers is being exposed as the effing pig every woman knew he was.

      • Royal Downfall Watcher says:

        THIS!!! He and Mitch McConnell. They f-ed us over so bad.

      • kirk says:

        Merrick Garland was a poor choice for AG. Seems like many Dems were too sympathetic after Mitch screwed him over. But what DOJ really needed following tRump 1st term was somebody who was absolutely on fire to get things done. Bad misstep by Biden, that occurred years before people started picking on him for being old in 2024.

      • Veronica S. says:

        Kirk – I think they went for Garland thinking BECAUSE he had been screwed over that he’d be something of a pit bull. I’d bet more than a few people in the admin were genuinely shocked at how spineless he wound up being.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Yes! I cannot and will not read any more. It’s too much! 🤬🤢

  4. anna says:

    the crazy part is that larry summers’ wife was also emailing epstein as recently as 2018!? recommending that he read lolita?! (she was an english prof at harvard)

  5. ThatGirlThere says:

    Again. A whole deviant, pedo thinks your don’t have ONE decent cell in your whole body then it’s over for you as a human. DT should never have even had a game show never mind the seat of the President of the United States.

    We have fallen so far with this cretin.

    • Sue says:

      Sometimes I ask myself how he gets to skate by and continue to do awful things and nothing happens to him. Then I have to catch myself and remind myself this is the way the world is: white men with lots of money never face consequences, But I guess Epstein finally did so maybe there’s hope that justice will finally catch up with Trump.

    • Elly says:

      Yes, it’s so deeply disturbing. I woke up last night thinking about it. I think Trump must have no conscience at all.

  6. manda says:

    Who or what is he talking about in the October 2017 email, about murdering a baby? Wow, it is crazy what people will put in writing

  7. Emcee3 says:

    Wonder how Summers wife #2 Elisa New (m. 2005) is processing all this. The awfulness aside of her elite H so casually seeking advice from Epstein, or the ridiculous text contained in those emails: ‘u kno she dint want to talk tomorrow’… I’m on watch to see if she’s now planning to divorce her dinty husband.

    I cackled @ DavidSimon’s Bluesky observations:
    By any reasonable calibration, the two biggest assholes to afflict themselves on Harvard University in the modern era are Larry Summers & Alan Dershowitz, and of course, Jeffrey Epstein collected them both.

    • kirk says:

      @Emcee3 – thanks for the reminder that there are decent, smart, well-spoken people like David Simon in the world. Helps to lighten the despair in these dark times. The comments around Kid Rock canceling his NY shows are a hoot.

    • DK says:

      @Emcee3, she’s probably just pissed they got exposed as the horrible people they are.
      She’s in these emails too, making jokes (or being serious, I have no idea) to Epstein about recommending Lolita and other books with similar older man-younger woman vibes and referencing the impact “impressions” left by young women have on older men to some of her and Epstein’s mutual friends.

      So wife #2 Elisa knew what she was getting into with Summers, and is also complicit in this pedophile trafficking ring.

      • Emcee3 says:

        I expect she knew what she was getting into, but… IDT Larry-boy coming off a damned fool in those emails was part of the bargain. Emails where he was stepping out on her. Emails that are now public. TBD if her association w/ JE severs her academic & PBS connections.

      • DK says:

        @Emcee3, I might be misreading your comment but I understand it to mean that “emails were not part of the bargain” coming to light is what is humiliating for her (rather than, say, her own encouragement to Epstein & co.’s predilection for raping girls), and I totally agree: I am sure neither she nor her pathetic spouse wanted the world to know that he was stepping out on her (let alone that he was doing it in such a cringe way), or that she herself was not only complicit in Epstein’s child sex trafficking ring, but making jokes about it and/or encouraging it (depending on whether her Lolita comments in her own emails to Epstein were serious or jokes).

        But surely no one complicit in all this wanted it to come to light?

        I certainly feel no pity or sympathy for her. Her emails to Epstein make it clear she knew Epstein and his friends – and thus likely her husband too – were raping underage girls.

        And rather than try to stop it, alert authorities, etc., she either joked about it or encouraged it. So if all she feels is humiliation that the world knows how gross she is (and how gross her husband is), and not deep regret at the pain and horror she knowingly let others inflict upon children, then (and I don’t mean this flippantly, I mean it sincerely), why should we care at all about how she is processing this?

      • Emcee3 says:

        DK, we’re in agreement. Adding, my initial thoughts for Comment #7 were being crafted [w/ side trip to Google & Bluesky to include David Simon’s contribution] before more comments had loaded upthread. I was still gathering basic information about her & my screen had not refreshed.

        With revelation of her own emails to JE & that Lolita [?!?!?!!!] recommendation, I would amend my initial comment to replace *processing* with *struggle to justify* her actions. She showed herself to be a lousy pick-me & I hope she becomes PNG @ PBS [& everywhere, to be frank about it].

        I was also disappointed to hear a report that a wife of one of the Google founders -I think it was Sergey Brin- upon arriving @ Little St Thomas, reacted to the # young girls there with a “Nope. This is dodgy & we’re out of here/leaving” but she didn’t take her suspicions to the authorities either.

    • Emcee3 says:

      We’re mostly in agreement here. I should clarify context & tone & the timing of posts gets lost in the scroll up/down on these threads & I was multi-tasking a G-search in another tab to see if Larry was married. Universities can be ripe environments for adultery among the faculty, so it was a mix of rhetorical w/ a touch of sarcasm at the time I posted Comment #7. I quoted that line of her H’s cringeworthy recap to JE because it seemed especially embarrassing given that poetry is her focus, one that led to her curating/hosting a special for PBS.

      I don’t think Comment #4 had moved past moderation, so I missed the reveal she had been emailing JE & even recommended Lolita. Realizing she’s a toxic pick-me, I certainly hope she doesn’t fly under the radar for normalizing/enabling the nightmare that has been inflicted upon so many.
      If I can amend the comment, no one should care how she’s processing this, but I think a few of us would like to see her struggle to justify her behavior [& perhaps become PNG @ PBS]

  8. Brassy Rebel says:

    Taking relationship advice from someone you know to be a pedo is a choice. Having a friendly chat with the pedo is also a choice. Summers is lying about “regrets”. He was a client, you can be sure. Sounds like Andrew Windsor.

  9. Jill says:

    For the time being, I hope we get more on this subject and less on the royals. This feels….more pressing.

    • DK says:

      100% agree.

      This needs to stay front and center. We can’t let it get swept under whatever new distraction the royals OR Felon47 will throw at us…and they will!

    • Elly says:

      Yes, I think Andrew has been a scab covering up a big, infected boil that’s finally erupting.

      • kirk says:

        On one or more of many numerous Andrew Lownie interviews on YouTube, he speculated that Andrew (ie BRFCo & Assoc) blocked a lot of Epstein info getting out for years.

  10. MsKrisTalk says:

    The sad thing is even with Epstein’s opinion of the man and his behavior as president, MAGA still places him on a pedestal. We were right. These men are Satan’s spawn.

  11. QuiteContrary says:

    I find Chris Hayes of MSNBC to be insufferable (mostly because he’s still there and Joy Reid is gone) but his post yesterday was perfect:

    “Something absolutely perfect about Larry Summers riffing about the scourge of woke cancel culture being unfair to predatory men in a friendly email to his pal JEFFREY EPSTEIN.”

    • MaisiesMom says:

      Yeah, I agree on Chris. I used to like him but then he got too full of himself or something and his work suffered for it. I also miss Joy.

      But as you said, he hits the nail on the head here.

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