So I’m jaded. So I’m a little punch-drunk this morning, and this is the fourth audio of Mel Gibson huffing and puffing and screeching like a madman that I’ve had to sit and listen to in a week. But I’m still holding on to my belief that this one is actually kind of funny, just because of the line-by-line contradictions and insanity. Radar has the new audio here. Here are some of my favorite quotes:
“How dare you be such a f-cking BITCH when I’m being so NICE.”
“You said you were annoyed with me – FOR WHAT F-CKING REASON?!? I‘ve done nothing to be NICE to you.”
“I deserve to be blown first before the F-CKING JUCUZZI! Okay, I’ll burn the f-cking house down!!! HOW DARE YOU?!!”
“YOU WANT THE NUMBER OF MY THERAPIST?!? Don’t you ever speak to him! Find your own goddamn therapist! Because you’ve got problems more than me!”
“Oh and earlier today – you said ‘Oh, nevermind’. WHAT THE F-CK WERE YOU GOING TO SAY?”
This is the tape where you realize that Mel will literally call up Oksana and pick a f-cking fight with her over absolutely nothing. He will scream and huff and puff about her saying “nevermind.” It’s that insane.
Here are more quotes:
Mel: “I should’ve woken you up and said f*cking blow me bitch! I should’ve f*ckin’ woken you up and said blow me! You would’ve liked that better, yeah? But you need the goddamn sleep!”
Mel: “Waited and waited. What, two and a half f*cking minutes!? You’re f*cking snoring. Don’t you dare.”
Mel: “You gotta push my f*cking buttons. And it’s not going to work with us! It’s not! I can’t get like this anymore! And you know you’re doing it and you’re a liar and you’re dishonest and you’re f *cked up! So you stay the f *ck away from me! Take care of your f *cking son and I better have my daughter! I want my daughter, and a maid… they make their goddman bed, which you DID NOT.”
UGH. I’m over it. But for a second, just forget that a woman (a mother of two) is being systematically terrorized by a violently insane man and just read the quotes for their sheer entertainment value.
Also – can I just say once again that I’m absolutely shocked that Mel’s drama didn’t make any tabloid cover this week? He’s on some of the sidebars, but not even the National Enquirer is running a cover story about this sh-t. More proof that the tabloids are out of touch, perhaps.
“I deserve to be blown first before the F-CKING JUCUZZI!
MOre pillow talk from Mel
Sheesh, Mel, why don’t YOU make the bed?!
The parodies have already started too! Here’s Christian Bale & Mel having a chat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ge02eybjY
His career deserves to be blown out of the friggin water.
maybe he didn’t make the headlines b/c when you heard one tape you’ve heard them all…i won’t listen to all of them just hearing them is stressful and negative energy. Maybe they are all banning ALL coverage of him, period, as punishment for this. Kind of like ‘you don’t exist anymore even for negative publicity’ This is not a bad thing, imo.
“I deserve to be blown first before the F-CKING JUCUZZI!”
yes mel. chop your peen off and mail it to me right now and i’ll blow it the second it gets here.
i don’t want to listen to the tapes- i don’t think it’s fair to tape someone who doesn’t know they are being taped- regardless of the filth that comes out of their mouth. We’ve heard all of these awful things Mel’s said, but Oksana can’t be completely innocent here, she must have said or done something to tick him off enough to swear and act out so much. If Mel did hit her, I don’t condone that behavior in the slightest and would lose a lot of respect for the guy. But yelling and going off on a verbal tirade if they are yelling at you as well isn’t a big deal.
I think the tabloids are scared to run with this as a cover story- it’s Mel Gibson! Just like the tabloids don’t really say anything about Tommy Girl being gay, they’re afraid of the reprocussions of publishing stories like that.
@ Bizzy
LOL!!!
What a pig.
someone created a new bumper sticker.
“I deserve to be blown first before the F-CKING JACUZZI!
What a freaking whack job….
Bipolar rant … She knew the job was danerous when she took it . You notice that she sounds sweet and inocent ? Mel needs help .
I never really liked the guy….full of himself and all that religious stuff
Why the jacuzzi?
Good call-how the hell is Kim KardASSian’s famewhore love life more pertinent than this?
Hearing Mel say those things sent a shiver up my spine. He sounds exactly like my alcoholic ex-husband. Scary. I’m sure Oksana is terrified of him and even though she may be a gold digger, dealing with a man like that is horrific and I feel for her. The worst thing is they have a child together and she will have to deal with his sh!t for another 18 years minimum.
he is OBSESSED with getting blown.
“I want my daughter, and a maid… they make their goddman bed”
Heavens this is worse than I thought, he is having his 8 month old daughter make her own bed? She must be quite advanced for her age, my 45 year old husband still can’t master that skill. 😉
Btw it’s illegal to tape someone without thier knowledge . Anyone remmber watergate ? She should be in jail !
I’m wondering how they stayed together long enough to make a baby….he must have changed A LOT from the start of the relationship to the break-up. Yikes.
I don’t think this situation is going to end well. It’s like a pressure cooker situation. Usually when actors screw up, they have their careers to fall back on. Like when Tom went all ‘La-La, I’m on Oprah’s sofa and I’m a second in charge Scientologist, who by the way is more special due to being a Scientologist’ (that ‘being a Scientologist is a privilege’ video clip) and he lost his offices in Paramount, everyone thought that was scandalous, but Tom still had his career, he didn’t really say horrible slurs to offend people on the whole (I doubt any female or African American will want to work with him or be a part of any agency dealing with him, but maybe I’m wrong, maybe money wins in Hollywood), and life continued.
Mel has burned so many bridges. Now that his agent has died, he has no agent rep at all. No Hollywood executives want anything to do with him. He has a hefty divorce settlement to pay his ex wife. He has no real friends. I doubt anyone, but a paid therapist, would want to be his ‘friend’, but that doesn’t count.
At this point, with all the tapes and his rage, he sounds like one of those maniacs who are one stop short of a killing spree.
“she must have said or done something to tick him off enough to swear and act out so much.”
great googly moogly…are we STILL blaming the victim?!
If anything, this and the whole Chris Brown drama might get people talking openly about domestic violence. Hopefully there will be some women out there who will find the strength to leave.
My grandmother was a victim of domestic violence, the stories my mother told me about when she was growing up amongst that are horrifying. That was in the 1940’/50’s. I assume women had to suffer in silence back then. I’d like to think that women have more options available today.
I’m not defending Mel Gibson in any way, shape or form but something doesn’t sound right (obviously). What did he mean by “I can’t get like this anymore”.
He sounds like someone who’s had something like a traumatic brain injury and can’t control what they’re saying (I understand he hasn’t had a TBI….).
I don’t think Oksana’s docile voice on the recordings was from terror. I think they were from the confidence of knowing the conversations were recorded and were going to be released. I think her calmness was fuel for Mel’s anger and she knew it. She found Mel’s achilles heel, an explosive temper and abusive side to his personality. She has exploited it very well. Well played Oksie, well played. Mel is finished, his own fault but knowingly helped along.
um, kitten, it’s not illegal for private citizens to tape conversations they are having – especially not when allegations of abuse are abound. But more importantly, the president of the united states taping every conversation in the oval office and tapping the DNC is a whole other story. Perhaps you should read some history books or even wikipedia before commenting…
The tabloids aren’t headlining this story because it’s everywhere on the internet. And because it’s so depressing.
Radar gave an exclusive clip to Larry King last night. Mel said he wanted to hurt someone or himself, and blamed Oksana. He said he was never like this before, and blamed Oksana.
This guy is crazy enough to blow her brains out and then do the same thing to himself. I hope she has good security in her house.
LOL @ a – right? I guess Mel uses blow jobs as a form of control or making the woman subservient (ie. down on her knees). What a turd. Blowing should be fun, but he just ruins it with that approach. As if I needed any more reasons to dislike this abusive asshole.
reading shit like this makes me want to take kick boxing classes, so if my bf ever tries to pull that shit on me i can just clock him in the face and move on.
lizzard – i cant believe, given all the vitriol mel spews, you’re focusing on “it’s unfair to secretaly tape someone”. this chick may be a nutjob in her own right, but there is NOTHING that calls for mel’s behavior. verbal abuse is *extremely* serious and damaging, in some ways worse than physical abuse. “yelling at someone” like this IS a very big deal.
“It’s Mel Gibson!” AND???? Honestly, viewpoints like yours scare me b/c you are essentially condoning abuse.
God, how many comments has he made now asking to be blown? Too many.
I don’t understand how women can blame the victim.
@kitten and lizard, really? Why would anyone deserve to be spoken to that way? It’s not just a verbal argument, it’s emotional abuse. It’s wrong.
“she must have said or done something to tick him off enough to swear and act out so much”
ACORDING TO MEL in the tape you refused to listen to the reason why he wants to come over and kill her is because she fell asleep instead of blowing him.
In this case I do believe he is really that crazy.
AND recording someone who is threatening you is not illegal that I believe is a clause in the law.
Oksana did the right thing. After listening to these tapes I do believe Mel is capable of pulling an OJ and BTW I am sure his first wife dealt with this type of abuse you don’t just turn into this type of monster overnight.
However I bet he made her sign a confidentiality clause when he gave her all of that dough.
kitten – as a general rule between private citizens, its not illegal to tape someone w/o their knowledge. the issue in watergate was whether or not the tapes were admissible in court, not whether or not it was legal to create them.
oh that crazy Mel! he’s such a charmer.
he really likes to be blown ALOT! if this wasn’t so disgusting…it would be hilarious.
It doesn’t matter whether Oksana is docile or whatever. Alcoholics like Mel, who have shat on their chances, who have drank for so long their personality (ie their forebrain) is affected, will still rant.
For one year, I tolerated a room mate like this. He’d go on drinking sprees for days, return, and if the slightest thing angered him, like dinner not being ‘on time’, he’d yell until I thought he was going to convulse. The calm or angry response still resulted in rants and verbal abuse.
Sure Oksana turned a blind eye to his behavioural issues, but I’m now betting that she didn’t anticipate how bad he could be and it’s good that it is all taped, because everyone thought that he was just a mild drunk before, especially after his sort of apology about his Jewish rant.
Mel is unhinged.
If it wasn’t so freaky-scary, his bj demand would be comical.
He is obviously not of this world. He lives in a world of macho wishful thinking and self entitlement.
I’m getting really sick of hearing she had to do something ti start this… NO SHE DIDN’T! The abusers are the instigators. My ex was the same way. Some days were fine, but other days I just knew it was gonna be bad. HIS insecurities would start something out of nothing. People who have never been in a similar situation seem to have a hard time believing this. My ex and I went out with his friends one night and he was upset because his friends didn’t wanna pay for his drinks/food/etc (he had entitlement issues) and started pouting and bitching. When his friend told him to stfu, Jason freaked, flipping a table over with beer bottles and glasses on it (leaving broken glass everywhere) and tried to attack his friend, I tried to get him to sit down and leave and he pushed me so hard he knocked me and some chairs over, we were kicked out and he dragged me home and yelled the whole cab ride that I was an f-ING whore/slut/b*tch for getting us kicked out and embarassing HIM. He beat the crap out of me that night and strangled me, and I only survived because I pretended to be unconscious… he freaked out and left and I went to a neighbor who happened to work for a DA and pressed charges. He would constantly start shit with me or other people and when he had to deal with repercussions it was “look what you did/made me do, you ruined my life…” sounds exactly like Mel and his rants/excuses
my mom had the same calm voice when she was recording the verbal and physical abuse her ex-husband gave her. She was only saved from breaking down into wild sobs by the knowledge that if she needed to, she could always hand those tapes over to the court to get protection–or worse, they would be the only evidence left of what happened to her if he DID kill her!
Hate on Mel – heck, he fully deserves it and I’ll never pay out for one of his films again – but what’s with the canonization of this woman? None of this is about opening people’s eyes to domestic abuse.
maybe all the people that want to blame her should be in a room with Mel when he gets like this and see how much they enjoy taking his side then…
Abuse aside (and I think it’s absolutely horrific)… but abuse aside, this is amazingly funny.
I’m now going to demand all day that people blow me.
“You want to come to starbucks with me? You need to blow me first!”
“You want to borrow my new dress? Blow me first!”
“You can’t talk to me about Mel Gibson unless you blow me first!”
Also, it doesn’t matter what she says or doesn’t say to him or does or doesn’t do… he us going to react in the same way disturbingly unhinged and angrily violent… hell, if she said you know what mel youre right. I should blow you until my jaw falls off, he’ll say she’s a whore or that she’s “belittling” him or “f-ing” with him (my ex’s favorite expressions)
I can’t believe i used to fantasize about this guy..
I was sitting at a friends house and their kid was watching POCAHONTAS in the sitting room. My mind wen’t straight to these tapes, I seriously can’t even watch that movie now. My God Mel was John Smith!
sad thing is these tapes most likely won’t be admissible in court-unless the police told her to tape the calls. You cannot tape someone without their permission in the state of California (police stings, or police permission not withstanding).
But I agree Kaiser, just reading them and not hearing Oksana it’s almost amusing. Then you realize he really is the delusional and abusive to the mother of his child-personally I hate her, but this is just wrong.
Just want to point out that each state has different phone recording laws. In CA I believe there is an abuse clause (you can record a call if you are being abused). In Oregon you can record phone calls (and it is admissable in court) as long as one person knows the call is being recorded.
Send Mel to jail, I’m sure he can find someone to blow him there.
The poor girl.
Even if she is a goldigger (which I’m not so sure of) she does not deserve to be talked to that way.
And, who the heck would want to blow that after all the vile things he’s said to her? He is out of his mind.
But i wonder what does he think NOW? Because there he is – calling her names, brings her down, saying how bad person she is… Amd now EVERYONE in the world thinks that he is crazy monster. He turns TV and every news or talk shows or papers talks about it. And everyone are disgusted with HIM. Not her. But in his sick mind he is the good guy. I hope that now he can look at himself from the other side. How can he even look to people’s eyes now? He will see “there goes monster” look in eyes of every person he will met now.
Don’t know what to say. It is awful. I think he is out of his mind…from booze, being harassed in the public eye too long and the breakdown of his almost 30 year marriage. None of those things are excuses for behaving like that though.
I wonder if this behavior was how he was 10 years ago. Hard to say since I don’t know him. A lot of people have come forward to say they were friends of his and that they knew him to be a good guy.
Meditation and anger management, along with a break from Hollywood and getting sober might change him for the better.
I have to say…I think we hold celebrities up and judge them mainly b/c it makes us feel better about our own short comings. At the end of the day, they are flawed human beings(in his case very) just like everybody else.
Whatever else he is when he is not doing his job, the dude made a lot of good movies over the years. I’d rather not see the wizard peddling his bicycle, but just enjoy the Oz he’s trying to create. I kind of wish the old H-wood studio system had never gone away b/c with more creative and financial freedom came the paparazzi.
If he’s trying to harm someone (his ex or whoever) that should be dealt with in the same way someone else would be (ie he doesn’t have the right to abuse his former gf)…
I’m nothing to do with Hollywood and am glad too. I know I would not do well in that environment.
Such a good Catholic!!!
@Meg: Using Mel Gibson’s behavior as an excuse to bash Catholicism is a really cheap shot.
I don’t know about the celeb tabloids but the news tabloids in NYC both had front-page stories about this yesterday. Both tabloids (the NY Daily News and the NY Post) have put an RIP on Gibson’s career: adios Mel, don’t let the doorknob hitcha, etc.
If I was her. I would run, very fast and very far. That man is a a psychopath.
I’ve got a really bad feeling about how this is going to end.
@Cheyenne – Meg’s comment isn’t bashing Catholicism. It’s simply bashing Mel for being a hypocrite by espousing a strong belief in Catholocism, then turning right around and directly violating most of it’s tenets.
(at least that’s how I interpreted it 😉
He sure has a thing about “talking” about being blown. Among many other “things” that are off with him.
Oh, he’s never going to live any of this down. He is dunzo. It’s about time – useless drooling mysogynist doorknob that he is.
is anyone going to read my comment? LOL b/c i couldnt read thru them all today…i wonder how many parts to this there will be?
how many tapes?
MG is a very sick man.
And, IMO the tabs aren’t covering it, b/c Mel a nd his ‘people’ wield ALOT of power in hollywood, still. Trust me.
If you can separate how abusive he really is, you can really appreciate how hilarious this tape is. And I can… LMAO!
From hearing the tapes, it is clear that Mel is dealing with a mental illness BUT that does not give him license to threaten and physically abuse someone.
Also, it appears that beyond the racial slurs, he does not have much respect for women. He sees them as a means to get pleasure for himself. He has repeated brought up “being blown” The woman who services him when he WANTS it is treating him nice apparently.
I’m not sure if he’s just use to having women do anything for him or what it is but now, he has come unglued in this relationship with Oksana. If the allegations of abuse are vailidated, he needs to be charged with assault. Also, a proper psychiatric is warranted. Beyond that, I don’t know how his career will recover after this. It is one of the most vile and disturbing rants I’ve ever heard. It would be difficult to support someone who can utter such garbage
@ Kitten-PLEASE change your screen name (notice I added a Gravatar a while back so as not to be confused with you). If only idiocy were a crime and YOUR ass was in jail.
@Kitten (the REAL one): Thank God!! I was afraid one of my favorite posters had lost their mind!!
“I’m wondering how they stayed together long enough to make a baby…”
Im wondering how, with his obsession with being blown, they managed to make a baby?
Remember when Brittney had her crisis and Mel wanted to step in and help her? Mel needs the 5150, and perhaps it is these vile tapes that will end of saving his life; or the lives of his wife and child. This kind of illness (whether it was long in the making, or it just became psychotic) needs to be addressed pronto.
I haven’t commented b/c the tapes hit too close to home and made me physically ill – that whole Jennifer commenting debacle made my eyes roll back in my head and my eyebrows fell completely out (true story). Am I the only one f*cking terrified for all his children? His son has already had at least one alcohol related arrest, can you imagine what those kids have to look to? Their mother seems grounded but who knows. Good god I don’t care what her motivations were for recording, she did the right thing at least for herself & the baby. Keep that man away from children.
“You WANT TO GO TO THE PARK?!?! YOU WILL BURP FOR ME FIRST! YOU DESERVE TO HAVE YOUR TEETH KNOCKED OUT EVEN THOUGH YOU DON’T HAVE ANY.” Maybe people like Jennifer can think about what it’d be like talking to a child, and think about his daughters. Jes*s f*cking chr*st, I can’t believe a reader truly said those things.
This is why I started a segment like 8 years ago called, “Hey Mel Gibson I’m talking to You” for being a piece of sh*t and used it to call out inhuman behavior in celebrities and political figures. I guess its still current. (bdline.net)
@ Crash: LOL! Maybe I should change my name to TheREALKitten! 🙂
I can’t imagine being any of Mel Gibson’s children and hearing their father on these tapes(unless they grew up with that behavior)
Maybe we’ll all get lucky & he’ll go back to Australia. I’ve heard he was a total asshole, racist, & misogynist for years, but hearing these tapes sends chills down my spine (and not in a good way).
btw, to faux Kitten, their are several exceptions to the wiretapping law, its not always illegal. Also, congrats on making the most moronic comment of the day. Yeah, this mother of two should be in jail…brilliant. Are you really a man?
I’m now convinced that the people coming on here to bash Oksana are either trolls or Mel’s people. Because–really???…No one is canonizing the woman! The issue is that Mel is out of control. He is abusive and insane with rage.
He is a rich man with a lot of power. The woman is taping his rants against her to use in a custody/court case. So??? She will need a lot of concrete proof of abuse if she wants to go against a man with so much financial/social clout. She obviously wants to make sure that the public knows it too, because she wants to expose what kind of violence the man is capable of.
If he wasn’t railing against her in the unhinged, violent way he is railing against her, she wouldn’t have anything to tape! She is exposing what happens in their home when he isn’t putting on the public charmer persona.
Of course she is going to sound as calm and emotionless as possible when talking to him when in this state. Like I’ve said before, when you are dealing with a person who is out of control, you can’t give them any emotion to feed off of. You hope that they will realize, somewhere in the back of their mind, that they are the one who is totally out of control and that they need to step back and calm down.
Whatever she is (gold digger, wannabe, star fucker, whatever), she has a right to tell her story. She has a right to tape a person making threats against her. Maybe this will force the authorities to force Mel into some serious rehab/therapy and somewhat protect his child/children from further insanity.
He isn’t even man enough to talk DECENTLY about her son who is his daugther’s half bro and his stepson by extension !
I can’t imagine how nastier or violent he may have grown towards that ‘other’ child while growing up and probably protecting his mother from this animal.
He is vile to the core pure and simple !
What Mel has is an inability to deal with life on life’s terms. I can’t count how many times I’ve told my BF he was getting a beej & then fell asleep on him. You know what happens? He makes a frowny face & maybe gets pleasured by Rosie Palm & her five sisters. Dwelling on such insignificant bs & blowing it out of proportion like this is a sign of mental illness. I’m surprised he hasn’t given himself a heart attack yet with this ranting & raving.
On Ted Casablanca’s site today, a person asked if MG was always an asshole. Here is TC’s response:
“Uh, yeah, Viv, he’s always been off his rocker. Which is why I think it’s total crap that people are calling his gal out for leaking the tapes. Who the ef cares how the tapes were leaked? At least now everyone knows what kind of guy he really is—and has been for quite some time.”
Wow, Mel is just desperate to get blown!
A prick thinking about nothing but his prick.
I admit reading the quotes ALONE made me chuckle, but listening to the tape of course puts everything back in context and you see Mel as the potentially psychotic abuser.
He is beyond hideous.
“You’re a pain in my ass…Stop being that!”
Good one, Mel.
I think the scariest part of these tapes is the way he’s breathing like he just ran a marathon. It’s like he’s aroused by screaming at her.
Also, looking at those pictures of her in that brown tunic, I was reminded of how in one of those tapes he said she dressed all skanky and would bring on her own rape. Oh yeah. That brown tunic is definitely from slutwear.com
He sounds insane. Seriously, he sounds psychotic.
I feel so sorry for Oksana’s 12-year-old Alexander and Mel’s 11-year-old Tommy. When they return to school in the fall all the kids will know that Alexander’s mom blew Tommy’s dad in the jacuzzi. That’s TMI for everyone, much less children.
@Pooky
How is she being canonized? I see people giving her sympathy and empathy, and calling her a victim, but I’m not seeing many people calling her a saint. Maybe I’m missing a few comments that do that. The majority anti-Gibson comments are actually humanizing her, instead of turning her into a cookie cutter “golddigger” or “homewrecker.”
In another point, I would be surprised if this really was the end of his career. Acting-wise he’s probably done, but not producing. Doesn’t he have his own production company? Icon, or something? He’s doubtfully going to quietly retire to Australia, although I wish he would.
Is Oksana a golddigger?Mmmm..she refused 20millions..And i dont think that she is for a bigger payday..I think what really matters to her,is to regain back her dignity,repair her reputation,prove to people that they were wrong..And just move on,,She truly suffered from unfair public opinion and from horrific home abuse..Maybe there was some element of goldigging in the beginning,given the fact that he is very rich..But i think she was infatuated by him too and maybe loved him..Maybe he was very charming to her first,he said ‘i ll make you fly’What woman would refuse?things went out of control when pregnancy took place,by then her name was greatly damaged by media,so she needed to get out of this relation,and to secure her and her children wellbeing, she planned and made those recordings.Just in case.So he would after break-up demand daily blow jobs .
It is very funny.But it is so cruel of him to mention her son.I hope the boy wasnt there.
@jane16 Rumour has it that Mel Gibson planning to leave USA, not to Australia,but Italy ,he is in the process of buying beautiful castle there.And i hope he changes his therapist.
@ kitten: in general, private citizens can tape their conversations as long as one person knows they are being taped. you can tape a conversation you are having with someone without telling them, but you can’t tape a conversation between other people if they don’t know they are being taped. as for your grasp of watergate – maybe you should spend less time online and more time in a library.
@ roma: “I’m now going to demand all day that people blow me.” thanks for the laugh!
I’m getting really sick of hearing she had to do something to start this… NO SHE DIDN’T! The abusers are the instigators.
@ kp: not necessarily…my relationship with a long term womanizer whom i loved very much, has turned this sweet loving kind and caring girl (me) into a screaming lunatic when confronted with the frustration of his lies, deceit, and emotional abuse…yes i screamed but i was not the abuser, he was.
I believe Mel has a severe mental illness, the things he is saying don’t make any sense. His attitudes to women are just … deranged. And all that religious stuff… I would almost bet schizophrenia or something. Either way he’s having an episode. We have to remember that what we are seeing is illness.
@ Annabelle. I agree 100%. There is something chemically amiss in his noggin’ I’ve seen this with people who are schizophrenic or manic depressive. They can all of a sudden “snap” and become entirely irrational and out of control. I use to work in a public library that was frequented by several clients from the psych day ward. Typically, they were fine unless they were off their meds. We had one fella that chased an elderly woman around the library threatening to kill her and another who brought in a sling shot and was firing it at people with glee. It was f***ing scary because there was no way to reason with these guys. None.
So, for those saying how dare she tape him…remember he is one of the wealthiest men in hollywood. if she didn’t tape him, she would have been painted as a liar and gold digger. What choice did she have to prove this was going on? She knew no one would believe her and she had to protect herself. He was threatening her life.
@angelika…
“Is Oksana a golddigger?Mmmm..she refused 20millions..And i dont think that she is for a bigger payday..I think what really matters to her,is to regain back her dignity,repair her reputation,prove to people that they were wrong..And just move on,,”
If this is true, she needs to say she won’t take ANY money from Mel other than her rightly-deserved child support. Some people are suggesting that she refused the $20 million settlement because she and her lawyer felt they could get more. That seems to be “the American Way,” that every problem can be solved with money. This situation should be about two things only: justice (if Mel did the crime he should do the time) and the welfare of an innocent baby.
To the people saying she must have done something to set him off and make him yell like that I think you should STFU as you have obviously never lived with a violent, abusive lunatic and have no idea what you are talking about. I have and trust me they don’t need a reason to go nuts because they get off on being angry. Anything and everything you do or say, no matter how innocent, is enough to set them off. One day the ex didn’t like that I took the towels off the clothes line before the clothes and went off like a lunatic screaming and ranting and getting busy with his fists just because he didn’t like how I was doing the folding. And I completely understand why she taped him- she needed proof because men like this are very charming and that’s how they get you and they continue being that way with everyone but you so if you ever muster up the courage to tell someone what is happening no one will believe you because they have only ever seen his good side which is another reason why it is so hard to leave an abuser. Unless you have dealt with this sort of situation you really have no business making those sorts of uneducated comments
I have been the victim of emotional abuse, albeit more insidious than Mel’s shrieking and hitting (well – actually, that would have been my mom, but I’ve removed myself from her clutches recently too). And I also have been dealing with secondary victimization big time. It’s people’s need to put what happened to me in a box so that they can label it, put it on a shelf, and feel sure that it will never happen to them. I am the crazy one because I fell apart after years of being abused by crazy people. I even lost primary custody of my daughter to my ex husband because he had me so well convinced that I was an incapable mother and human being (not a difficult feat to accomplish really). Of course now that he’s gotten what he wanted, he is all sugar and sweetness to me. My plan now is to simply wait until his life falls apart yet again (history shows that this will inevitably happen), so I can swoop in and regain custody.
There is nothing so soul destroying as being made crazy by abuse, and then having people judge you because of that craziness. I don’t know how to explain it any better than that. 🙁 But having psychiatrists, court investigators and attorneys all giving me the side eye during the battle was not fun. And I never did anything even remotely wrong, except I told the truth! Shock!!
Court investigator: So how, do you feel these days? “Oh, pretty crappy. You know. My ex took it upon himself to take my daughter away from me 6 months ago, and my attorney has advised me to do nothing , because it will certainly mean that he will in no way get custody of her. She suffered terribly for 4 motnths until she got used to it, and he won’t let me see her more than every other weekend and Wednesdays. No court order or anything you understand. And we have had umpteen delays with the court date, and now my daughter won’t tell me she loves me, etc”
Court investigator: Well, do you ever think about hurting yourself? “Sometimes I hurt so bad I could just scratch myself. But I never do. That wouldn’t be fair to my daughter.”
My attorney “You should NEVER have said that.”
anon 5:27- me
anon 5:57- not me
just to clarify
I feel so sorry for Oksana’s 12-year-old Alexander and Mel’s 11-year-old Tommy. When they return to school in the fall all the kids will know that Alexander’s mom blew Tommy’s dad in the jacuzzi. That’s TMI for everyone, much less children.
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Yeah Mel is a criminal !
According to Radar, that little boy, he just disrespected has whitnessed part of his outburst and will be hear by investigators.
It seems that Mel who sleep with a gun also threaten Oksana with a gun as she was trying to ra away, pointing it on her and telling to her that she will run fast.
Mel investigation now also included : endangering of children.
I am sure it’s only the tip of the iceberg and i am sure he did some of those stuff to his ex wife who should have been releived when he finally let her.
@Crash2GO2: i’m so sorry to hear of your abuse by people who were supposed to love you, i wish you well. i agree that emotional abuse is insidious and sometimes much more harmful than shrieking and hitting. i would have traded physical abuse for the emotional abuse i went thru. good luck to you and others who have suffered emotional abuse by those who claimed to love them
This man is not only an arrogant racist, but a woman-hater and a criminal.
Boycott everything Mel Gibson.
Actually I think its part of a bigger problem.
Ultra-uber rich……..they get insane. Their money makes some of them bored and psychopathic.
Scary how many uber-rich have political power and this same insanity as Mel but the ability to legally kill people and start wars.
I think all uber rich should be required to work on an assembly line for 2 years making marshmellow peeps to calm them down and bring them back to reality.
Just a quick response to her “calm voice” on the taped conversations.
I’m not sure if anyone has heard of the book called ‘The Gift of Fear’ but if you haven’t you have to read it. It talks about the natural instincts you are born with that over time we are told not to listen to. And one of the sections talks about how when someone is psychotic and in a rage, our natural instinct is to immediately calm and diffuse the situation. They are just looking for any irrational reason to launch on you, beat you or even kill you. In their rage they feel justified in their actions. What you think you would fight and stick up for yourself against, your mind actually takes over and you do the opposite if your subconscious feels there more danger than just a typical verbal fight.
It was an awesome book-it teaches you to listen to those little warning signs like fear of some stranger behind you or the feeling of being watched. Society has told us that its ridiculous to fear people, but really it should be opposite. We’ve lost our animal instinct!
I sympathy with you Crash. I too have been the victim of a violent man.
I don’t want to tell everything in here but i met this Jewish french doctor a few years ago, a reknown researcher in one of the three wordly most famous medical industries aimed at creating vaccines. The perfect beau, the man every mother would want her daughter to marry, every father would like to give his daughter too.
The guy went crazy 1 hour only after we first met, calling me a ‘TORNADE’ which in english means ‘HURRICANE’ that i had that power over him he never experienced before, that he fel for me like he never did for another woman before, that i was an irresistable force he couldn’t resist, a force that had destroyed his protection he built for 4 years after his divorce. At first you feel flattered but things change rapidly.
That man would tremble like hell every time i was around or in my arms. I thought at first that he was ill and had fever. But it was a manifestation of his crazy infatuation for me.
He couldn’t stand being far from me (i was a consulatnt enganged in a long distance relationship with him so at first we used to meet in Paris on week-ends where we both had a place), was suspecting every male around, let it be in the street of every city we went, his friends, his male family members, my obgyn, everyone of having a thing for me and wanting to steal me from him.
He would have those daily outbursts then cries like a baby, begging me to forgive him, saying that the love he felt for me was so powerful and uncontrollable that he feared every second that i would slip and disappear from his life and that the next day he thught that his feelings would decrease because it was too powerful to handle and it couldn possibly get even more powerful…but it did and my nightmare became more and more a hell
it went crescendo to obsession, him telling me that every day, he was going to sleep thinking about me, waking up still thinking about me, that he had more and more difficulties working because i was in his head constantly. One day he told me that he calculated how many hours a day he kept on thinking about me.
He would call me every day for a minimum of 4 hours wherever in the world he was. If i sounded tired, he would asking me if i was seeing another man cause he sensed that i wasn’t attentive…everyday, it was me reassuring him and him imagining things that didn’t happened, telling me that he could kill every former boyfriend i had because they dared to have touched me before him and that this thought was unbearable for him. He yelled at me when he was at the other side of the world because i dared to see my obgyn without him being around to make sure that this fllow doctor had not thing for me. I went as far in his obsession s telling me one day that he was jelous of my underwear, because unlike him my bra and panties were more close to me than him…sick.
He kept on saying me that he was crazy about me, that i was driving him crazy, that i could do anything to him, that he was totally deducated to me and that he could accept everything except another man. he went daily sniffing me around the appartment like animals do with their females, becoming crazy eveytime i left the appartment leaving my parfume behind me…He ultimately tried to rape me during the night, jumping on me when i was sleeping, usually around 5 o’clock knowing i wasn’t on contraceptive to make sure i got pregnant by force so that he will possess that peice of me that no other men had and i will never leave him.
It went crescendo in the verbal and physical abuse with bruises on my thighs and belly to the point where one day i yelled then fainted during a fight where i was nearly playing the snake around me resistsing his rage of opening my legs.
It was brief (three hellish months) and i made sure for him to stay away from me by warning him to tip my male friends and brothers. He found my sister to whom i didn’t tell anything mere the fact that he was a former boyfriend i don’t have anything to do with. He found her because they happen to work in teh same enterprise in varous countries. A few months ago, my sister told me that the few times they have talked during thos eyears, he had been talking abou me. My sisters told me : i don’t know what happened between the both of you, but this guy can’t stop talking about you and got ou under his skin
It needed 6 months to have my bruises disapper and years before i could stand a man just taking me in his arms without me being in a state of shock, trembling like hell with my teeth shoking and my eyes fearing, crying and ultimatly fainting.
That’s when you realise the extent of the damages long before the actual crime..your brains keeps the memory of your trauma and determine your future relationships and how you view the ‘other’ gender.
For a young boy like Oksana’son, it will change the perception he has as a future man.
That’s why Mel Gibson is more than an asshole. He is a fucking criminal who belongs to jail !
I think everyone should back off of Mel Gibson I’m not not necessarily in favor of what he has said on these ‘tapes’. However she is not innocent at all in this. People going on about emotional abuse. The woman isn’t stable herself and is being abusive back just in a different way she’s playing on his emotions just as he is hers.
Further more has anyone apart from myself wondered why only the conversations start with him going off his head, what parts of these calls are being edited before she or whoever is leaking them out. It sounds to me she is either A, calling him and stirring him up perhaps even swearing at him and making threats herself, to then have him call her back and then record the conversation from that point. Or she is sending him text messages. Violence against women is wrong even to suggest it, but women who provoke that type of behavior are no better.
Just to add to some other comments Mel Gibson is Mel Gibson, I have never personally liked him as an Actor however he has more than enough money to continue his career however he pleases Hollywood doesn’t make or break him. Hes a producer/actor/director/millionaire. If he decided to make a film and release it if it’s good Hollywood will eat it up because that is what Hollywood is about.
Finally I hate to say this but for everyone screaming about how bad this is it’s hardly bad. There are women out there who get beaten with baseball bats, their hair burnt or shaved off their heads by abusive partners. So his wife is annoying to a certain extent anyone would think he dragged her face along a cemented ground and up some steps. Not making light of it but I have seen worse situations of violence in my job and this is basically attention seeking on both parts.
@Crash, so sorry to hear of your painful experiences. Our system is definitely set up against women. I hope your sit. gets much better asap! {{Hugs}}
This is the first batch of Mel quotes where my initial reaction was not “what an abusive, POS monster!”. No, this batch honestly just left me wondering exactly how out of touch with reality he really is. There’s something so insane about these words, that they actually do make me wonder if there is something clincally wrong with him beyond just being an obnoxious a**wipe.
This batch of quotes kind of made me wonder if Mel hears voices in his head that are constantly whispering things to him about how violent blow jobs will bring him closer to the mother ship. He sounds that crazy!
I hope Oksana gets full custody. I never wish for a child to grow up without a father. But, until Mel’s inner demons stop telling him to go find oral rocket fuel (BEFORE he gets in the jacuzzi!) for his trip back to god knows where, I think he should be locked up with a shrink until he is at least medicated enough to act sane in front of his daughter.
You can tape someone without their knowledge if you are doing it to prove you are in danger, which she clearly was.
“maybe all the people that want to blame her should be in a room with Mel when he gets like this and see how much they enjoy taking his side then… ”
I agree, Me1st. And those people should be the ones that have to take over the vital task of blowing him.
Crash, I’m so sorry about your awful experience. I hope it all turns around very soon.
And I’m so glad to see commenters here extending kindness to you for your personal pain. That’s usually how we are here, but the last time I shared a personal story about having been the victim of abuse, I was attacked on a personal level by a really nasty troll.
@ Praise St Angie, @Andrea, @ Persistant Cat: I would just like to clarify once again that I have not heard these tapes, I don’t want to hear them and I don’t have speakers on my computer that are currently working anyway. And I don’t think it’s fair to tape someone without it being acknowledged. I’m not going to apologize for that. I understand that this is being used in a court case, but then let the courts and judges decide, they shouldn’t be made public. Oksana claims she has nothing to do with the leaks, but if she taped it then obviously she knows who did leak it if not herself.
I’m not saying that a verbal assault on someone isn’t just as horrific as physical assault, and I’m not trying to say she must have deserved it either. What I meant was, these conversations, from what I’ve heard on radio stations or read online, only have clips of his completely irratic tirades. I realize he’s not sane, but who starts yelling without being somehow provoked to do so? I’m not saying she intentionally provoked him, I’m saying he’s out of his mind and someone like that can get provoked at the drop of a hat. I never said she deserved this. No one ever deserves to be abused and people who do blame the abusers are idiotic.
People we all know Mel has said some awful stuff, Yes He does have problems IF Oksana new this and she did, why go to the Tabloids and Gossip columns
It is obvious to any one with a brain cell He has been having a breakdown HE IS Bipolar, I still think what he said is shocking But to have a Person Battling a mental disorder in Public is disgusting .
Mel is at fault BUT so is Oksana They are both to blame,
I still maintain Any Woman supposed suffering all this alleged abuse SHOULD have done thing asap,
If/when the assault happened she should have rang the police, Done everything by the book, But No she wandered off with him all over the World promoting His Movie Going to Dinners Academy Award ceremonys etc.
Apparently told her Dentist who has also broken the law in not reporting the said abuse to the appropriate with in the period.
This shows just how Her mothering skills come into question, If so fearful why did she have no problem in letting Lucia seeing Mel up into Fathers Day,
She had her House David Forster bought for her Why did she not go there, She has Friends?
She is just as bad at leaking these tapes and changing her story’s to the media, If the alleged physical abuse took place why wait several months.
Should have been dealt with at the time
By the correct people, This going to the tabloids to say suddenly she was in danger,
Sorry do not buy that for a second.
Debbie
@Uzi,we have to wait and see..We misjudged her before,and i wouldnt believe her even now if i didnt hear those tapes,but w/o them, we never would know the truth..A year ago i was actually defending Oksana,or maybe i was defending Mel Gibson’s choice..There is something very vulnerable about her(and i think this what attracted him initially in her)and i have a feeling,it is nothing but just personal feeling,that she is not interested in his money. There are things much more important then money such as clear conscience and peace of mind.The reason she did those tapes to show people that she was totally misunderstood..And good for her! It empowers other women to step out of obscurity of home abuse.Dont you think she deserves justice rather then being remembered as a ‘Russian goldigger’ and a homewrecker?
Nobody would have believed her.My own husband after listening two first tapes said to me’ it seems he is heatbroken,soon he ll ‘PAYBACK’ everyone
by making a really good movie’.You see people refuse to see evil in MG..I didnt let him listen to third tape though,just dont want to disappoint him and deprive him of his childhood idol.
Regarding Alexander and Tommy,it is very bad that somehow they are involved in all this mess..I think Tommy could be tutored at home for a while,his father can afford it.
Alexander has to endure much more,and i really concerned about him.Not enough he was part of this media turmoil from very beginning(his mother was called names,there were claims that she slept with a son of Mel Gibson and she faked the pregnancy)then he was a witness of her being abused and now he will be interrogated by police..He is wounded forever
if that was their contractual arrangement — that she was supposed to be his whore and that he would be blown on command — then he has every right to be upset. at issue here is whether she is his woman or his paid employee. the problem is that both deserve more respect. but when you are filthy rich and feel entitled, of course you’re going to lose control/go ballistic if the employee/whore doesn’t blow you on command.
@Crash2GO2 I’m so sorry for your horrific experiences. I know you’ll come out the other side so much better and more powerful than your abusers planned.
Thank you everyone. CB Rawks, I am sorry you got attacked a troll. I hope other posters showed you the kindness I am being shown here. It really means the world to me to be able to share my story – something I have not yet done fully with family for fear of being judged, as they have judged me before. They don’t understand how messed up your mind and thinking can get when under this kind of abuse. If they are willing to even admit that it is abuse. My own sister is still in denial about our mother. She understands that her thinking isn’t right, but doesn’t understand why I have to stay away from her. She wasn’t/isn’t the focus of my mother’s narcissistic projections, I was, although she did endure a fair amount of verbal abuse. My sister and her husband think I am just being a baby and should ‘get over it’. Mom’s weird and a pain in the ass, but come on – can’t you just laugh at her behind her back and suck it up? Good grief. And you let your ex take your child, and you made all those poor decisions after you decided to leave your ex (moved too many times trying to find an affordable place was the #1!), on and on. Basically, I made my bed, now I can lie in it. My ex OTOH did a 3 months EXPENSIVE stint in rehab paid for by my father, quickly remarried (for the 3rd time) and made it all look good for the courts.
blech
Are Oksana and her cold sore still surprised and horrified, bewildered and befuddled about how the fourth tape got out?
I’m glad “somebody” leaked them though, and enough one after another that Mad Mel can never Alec Baldwin his way out of the dog house.
Just fyi, it is NOT legal to tape people either on the phone or in person. It is a very serious law, especially in CA. However, supposedly there is some sort of exception IF serious domestic abuse has been committed. But people should not think it’s ok to tape people. Hopefully things work out for her. #94, it is terrible that you went through abuse, but there was a comment recently by someone who went through terrible abuse who was blasting another abuse victim because the other victim didn’t react in the same way as the first victim. Not everyone reacts in the same way and everyone deserves to be believed. Hope things are better.
Mel was trying to bully her, or make her feel bad because she was no longer ‘nice’ to him – as in, giving him oral sex on demand. It’s clear he views the act as demoralizing to women, otherwise he wouldn’t use ‘blow me’ after each threat, and the fact he’s all caught up in her image – I get the impression that sex was an issue, or another way of trying to control her? I’m not sure, but he sounds like a child throwing a fit because he can’t get what he wants. Pathetic.
you’re welcome crash….i hope things will work out for you…be strong, and hope you have someone you can talk to, sometimes just being able to sort some things out is so helpful….best to you xoxo
I want Mel to hook up with Dina Lohan. That’d send the tabloids into meltdown. Hahahaha!!
My GOODNESS, she looks like a pig in heat in that last picture. (JOKING. Just in case.)
“YOU WANT THE NUMBER OF MY THERAPIST?!? Don’t you ever speak to him! Find your own goddamn therapist! Because you’ve got problems more than me!”
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Laughing my ass off. These two nutjobs deserve each other.
“I would just like to clarify once again that I have not heard these tapes, I don’t want to hear them and I don’t have speakers on my computer that are currently working anyway.”
then perhaps you should refrain from commenting on what’s on those tapes until you DO hear them.
“I realize he’s not sane, but who starts yelling without being somehow provoked to do so?”
A NOT SANE PERSON. just like you said.
“I’m not saying she intentionally provoked him”
no, not intentionally…but you did say, in no uncertain terms, that she must have provoked him to get him to react that way. THAT IS BLAMING THE VICTIM.
@Crash & nnn: So so so sad with your stories. You are both strong women and since you shared the experienced, you are completely healed. As far as I am concerned, u have lost nothing becos soonest, big smiles will comes to your faces. Its well.
@ PraiseSt.Angie- I can still comment on what I’m reading that he said on these tapes, can I not? Or the excerpts they’ve played on the news or radio stations?
I’m not blaming the victim. Obviously Mel is insane and can get provoked extremely easily. She could have parted her hair on the wrong side and he could have flipped out about her for not giving him oral pleasures. Like I said, she didn’t intentionally provoke him. I’m not blaming her in any way.
I read that she still has another house that he bought her somewhere else though, is this true? She should have moved out of Mel’s house and into the other, changed the locks, and gotten a restraining order on him back in January when these tapes were made. Trust me, I know how difficult it is to leave an abusive relationship- but I just feel like someone could have helped her much sooner if she would have reached out for help back then. People around her must have seen, heard, or known something was wrong in this relationship. I don’t understand why she waited so long to come out with this.
Its sad but I wont doubt if he kills her. Being “Provoked” puhleese! What did Nicole do to OJ to provoke him? She had pictures showing her abuse, that he come to her home (after the divorce) and start yelling and beating her.
What did she do to him that was so bad? What did Rihanna do to Chris?
Mel Gibson is a lunatic and I don’t care if she tryed to trap him, if he wasn’t insane nothing she did would’ve mattered.
My step father punched my mother in her mouth, broke her tooth and slammed her head in the wall. Why? Um he didn’t like that she wore a dress to a party they went too, and guys were complimenting her. Friends of HIS. After that night she left him, and now they share custody of my 12 year old brother. He could have KILLED HER. He weighs at least 100 more pounds then my mother.
Oh it didnt start with the hitting. It was ALL VERBAL for awhile. He tell her to shut up in front of me (When I came to visit) He tell her that she better make dinner. He tell my brother that he didnt need to listen to his own mom, that he ONLY mattered. Thats why my mom will get full custody, and he will see him on the weekends, and it cost 400 dollars to get my mom tooth replaced.
He was ALWAYS jealous that men looked at her and thought she was much younger, and everyone thought he was her father. He was so kind and sweet at the beginning, who ever thought he turn into a monster? Now he is super sick, needs another surgery and could die, and I dont care if he does. He has made my life, my mothers and brothers hell.
My mom tried to stay until the hitting. So my brother would grow up with both parents. What a mistake that would been.
Demanding bjs. Incredible. As if he deserved it. So disgusting. Don’t they call that Monarch/Infant Syndrome or something like that?
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