‘The Dark Knight Rises’ Paris premiere canceled after Colorado mass-shooting

These are photos of Tom Hardy in London yesterday, the day after the UK premiere for The Dark Knight Rises. As you can see, Hardy was wearing a promotional t-shirt for TDKR, and he looks really happy and jazzed, especially with (what I’m assuming is) his promotional matte-black Bat-car. These photos were taken roughly ten hours before the horrific mass-shooting at a late-night screening of TDKR in Aurora, Colorado. We’re not a hard-news site – we only bump up against real news stories when they have some kind of celebrity attached, or when they involve pop culture in some way. So, I’m not going to be covering the hard-news developments of the deaths and injuries of these poor people who just wanted to see TDKR, and I won’t be giving any time to the POS a—hole shooter. My thoughts and prayers are with the families of those injured or killed.

Here’s People Mag’s coverage thus far:

At least 12 fans attending a midnight screening of The Dark Knight Rises Friday morning were killed when a gunman opened fire on the audience in Aurora, Colo., a suburb of Denver.

Another estimated 50 were wounded, including a 6-year-old girl, Police Chief Dan Oates told reporters, CNN reports.

Police apprehended 24-year-old suspect James Holmes – a local resident who was said to be heavily armed and wearing a bulletproof vest – in a rear parking lot of the Century 16 Theater in Aurora’s Town Center Mall, police spokesman Frank Fania told CNN. “He did not resist. He did not put up a fight,” Fania said.

Holmes remains in custody. His home is currently being searched for possible explosive materials or devices.

Holmes’s mother, who lives in San Diego, confirmed to ABC News that her son was the shooter, saying, “You have the right person.” According to ABC News, she was unaware of the shooting until she woke up and had not been contacted by authorities. She also expressed her concern, and told ABC, “I need to fly out to Colorado.”

The attack in the theater began when the suspect tossed a canister of tear gas into the crowd through an emergency exit door, reports CNN affiliate KUSA. He then opened fire. Some moviegoers thought he was part of the show.

“We saw people running around and screaming,” an unidentified man told KUSA. Another moviegoer said the gunman wore a gas mask and moved through the theater, firing randomly.

Of the wounded, at least 20 were being treated at the University of Colorado Hospital for minor to critical gunshot wounds, spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery told CNN.

At the moment, the Dark Knight Rises cast – including Christian Bale, Anne Hathaway, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Morgan Freeman and Marion Cotillard – is in Paris for a scheduled red carpet premiere on the Champs-Elysees Friday night. PEOPLE has been told that Warner Bros. has canceled all interviews related to the movie opening, as well as the premiere itself.

In a statement, the studio said: “Warner Bros. is deeply saddened to learn about this shocking incident. We extend our sincere sympathies to the families and loved ones of the victims at this tragic time.”

[From People]

Warner Bros. has pulled Hardy, Anne Hathaway, Christian Bale and the other actors from all of their promotional work in Europe for the time being. Warner Bros. also canceled tonight’s premiere of TDKR in Paris. According to Radar, the whole cast had already flown to Paris (from the UK) before they heard about the Colorado massacre. My guess is that the Paris premiere will be canceled for good, and Warner Brothers will do a media blackout for the weekend, and then the actors’ promotional duties will resume on Monday. That’s just my guess, btw, I have no inside information. Also – Nikki Finke is already talking about how this devastating tragedy will affect TDKR’s opening weekend. Too soon, Finke.

Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. Obvious says:

    Such a tragedy, i feel so bad for the victims and their families, who the hell expects to be shot at while enjoying a midnight showing of a blockbuster? you shouldn’t have to worry about those kinda of things.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Next move is installing metal detectors in the movie theaters. I hear he may have gotten through unsecured escape exit but still…

      • Sombrero says:

        There’s no metal detector in US mall ?
        That’s pretty surprising, i live in Jakarta Indonesia and everytime i enter a mall, there’s a security guy checking you with metal detector wand no exception.

      • Rhea says:

        @Sombrero : I would assume that in Jakarta, only at big malls/ other malls where a lot of foreign people coming that they have a security guy checking you with a metal detector since there were several threat of bombing in Jakarta before?

      • the original bellaluna says:

        Sombrero, our malls have way too many entrances to have metal detectors and security at every door. Three levels, multiple mall entrances, plus all the various “anchor store” entrances…too many to police.

        But had that ER exit door been secured, or had they metal detectors at the theatre itself, maybe, just MAYBE it would have helped.

      • Sombrero says:

        @Rhea, yes and some mid-sized malls too. I think 90% of hotels including small one (but not motel) have metal detector since most bombing in Jakarta happened in hotel. Before Bali bombing we had none of this.

        The case is different though, last bombing in Jakarta were realized because one of the terrorist was a staff so he brought bomb material inside so the bomb maker actually made it inside his hotel room. They didn’t check staff unfortunately.

      • lower-case deb says:

        @Rhea and @Sombrero,
        almost all malls/hotels/office buildings (from the ITC/trade centers on to the higher end ones) now have the hand detector black stick thing, that they wave at your bags, at the very least. it’s like a must nowadays.

        The higher end ones added the security with metal detector gates.

        Some big malls and hotels, especially located in hot spots (SCBD, Sudirman, Thamrin) has the the xray machines like in the aiport, where you put your luggages in.

        Most malls that are built prior to 2000, have streamlined their entry/exit points, closed off farflung areas that used to be public entry/exit. They erect tall walls on the entry exit facing the street, allowing only one point of entry to the lobby (as far away from the lobby as possible), and limited entries from parking lots. so they can check cars with mirrors, open hoods and baggage compartments. those that can splurge more have scary-looking rottweilers (hotels choose golden retrivers/other huge-but-friendly dogs).

        some places even have seconded armed officers that are visible and at the ready.

        more and more big cities outside jakarta (at least provincial capitals) are beginning to practice this more and more often.

        although most of them are just ‘for show’ and go about their work in a very gung-ho way. but you can see they visibly tighten up security after some big incidents/events (terrorist alerts, religious holidays–they put up metal detectors in churches for christmas mass and easter week)

        at least that’s how i observe the situation here.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        I don’t think a metal detector or the exit door being more secured would have stopped this guy.
        Yes, he likely chose the theater because of its accessibility but if he didn’t do it there, he would have done it somewhere else.

        People like this are very very driven to commit an “infamous” massacre. They’re generally very meticulous about planning and unless you want to put metal detectors everywhere, he would have found a way to carry out the crime.

        It’s human nature to want to try to find answers and reasons for this but in the end, I think that’s an exercise in futility. It’s an incredible tragedy and my heart breaks for the lives lost.
        Poor Colorado-that state has suffered so much it seems.

      • Rhea says:

        @Sombrero and lower-case deb : Apa kabar? Thanks for the info. If I’m not mistaken, in Indonesia for every big/ religion holidays they also double up the security at church, mosque along with other public places?

        In here, just like @the original bellaluna said the malls have way too many entrances to have metal detectors and security checks at every door.
        Mostly the police doing a random checks at subways (especially one with big bag for fear of carrying a bomb), or patrolling a landmark. Police relying the help of public to inform them if they see any suspicious activities. The slogan is : If you see something, say something. They do tighten up the security at the airport with pat down/body scanner.

        Sad thing is, just like @the original kitten said this kind of people would have found a way to carry out the crime anyway, and often times in place where they know the security is not that tight.

      • Global Goddess says:

        In India too we have multiple levels, multiple entrances (main entrance, back, parking across many levels) for most malls….and at every such gate there is a metal detector you must walk through, plus guards scan you completely with a hand held detector, they open and search each and every bag (even a clutch) …..yes it is very annoying at peak times specially weekends but after reading tragedies such as this one realizes it is after all necessary for the crazy world we live in.

      • Rin says:

        He bought a ticket earlier, left the back door open.

        Metal detectors wouldn’t have done crap in this case.

    • Rhea says:

      This is a real sad tragedy. Tragic and frightening. I can not even imagine a three months old have been shot at blank point range in the back. Actually, I am loss at words of how could someone hurt others for no reason at all???

      My prayers and thoughts for the victims and families.. 🙁

      • cmc says:

        A three month old?! I had not heard that. That’s incredibly sad.

      • Obvious says:

        yea. a 3 month old.

        Personally i don’t know what possessed someone to take a baby that young to this movie. the loud sounds would probably wake it up and have him screaming and pissing people off. still no excuse for someone to shoot the baby or anyone else. but i do have to wonder about people sometimes for their decision making skills.

      • Lisa says:

        @ Obvious: agreed.

      • Rhea says:

        @cmc : you should check the DM’s website. They have more information.

      • Skipper says:

        @obvious
        I get what you are saying but comments like that are unnecessary. There is no blame to be placed on the victims parent. I am sure he or she feels guilty enough. Things like this can happen anywhere at anytime.

      • Obvious says:

        @skipper, i am in no way blaming the parents. I am simply wondering about the wisdom in general of bringing a baby to a movie in the middle of the night. especially an opening night for something like this.

        I feel the shooter is the only one who should be blamed, but my feelings about infants and young children in movies such as this are completely warranted as well. I would never blame the parents for this particular thing, unlike letting your young children play outside a 1 am in a crime riddled neighborhood, if something happened in that case, you had an idea something could happen based on the time and location. No one could have seen this coming. my point was in general, not about this particular parent and child, but in general.

        :edit: not that i’d blame the parent in the other situation but again, i’d have to question why they would lettheir children’ do certain things. granted as i have no children i don’t know how’d i’d react in the same situations. I apologize you thought i was blaming the parent, that was never my intent.

      • Jilliterate says:

        @skipper: You’re drawing false conclusions from what Obvious was saying, and putting words in his/her mouth, so to speak. Please be aware that two separate events are in discussion — the murder of 12 innocent people who were simply attending a public theatre, and a parent bringing their three-month old child to a midnight showing of a movie not intended for children. Obvious was in no way implying that the parent(s) were to blame for the child’s death, or showing poor judgement in bringing a child to such a place because of a potential threat to the child’s safety. Clearly, no one could predict this was going to happen. Obvious was making a completely separate observation, which is that the parent(s) had no business bringing an infant to the opening night of a blockbuster film, as it shows a lot of inconsideration for the other patrons. People were waiting four years for this movie to come out, and to bring an infant, who is likely going to start crying (as infants are wont to do), is very inconsiderate for the other moviegoers who paid to see the film. Most theatres now have parent-and-child showings of big films such as Dark Knight Rises so that parents can bring small children with them to films while not disrupting other patrons.

      • Canda says:

        The first thing that came to my mind when I read about a 3-month old and a 6-year old at this movie was, why in the HELL would any parent have their baby and young child up at midnight, and why would they take them to this movie, which is so NOT appropriate for kids that young??? Seriously?!

        No, it’s not blaming them for the shooting, but WTF are people thinking? Or are they not thinking? How is that at ALL okay? This is a tragedy, yes, but I respond the same way when any parent takes a too-young child to an inappropriate movie. This is a huge part of why society is desensitized and morally corrupt: bad parenting.

      • M says:

        In no way do I blame the parents for their child’s death, but from an audiologic health perspective, a loud movie theater is no place for a 3-month old child (unless you want to get an early start damaging his hearing).

    • MrsNix says:

      @Original Kitten…precisely. He would’ve found a way to do this, even if the door had been locked and even if there were metal detectors. He did this by going around existing security measures, and had those measures been different, he would have gone around those, too.

      A focused and criminally insane person will find a way to do what he/she wants to do.

      • ZenB!tch says:

        I agree with @Obvious. A baby at a midnight showing? To be honest, I avoid the midnight showings of movies like this. I don’t expect to be shot but the weirdos in costume give me the heebie-jeebies.

        To the person in Jakarta: here in LA, we have metal detectors in bad areas. Our gun problems are gang problems. It’s one of the signs of a bad neighborhood like no Starbucks and fewer trees. Almost forgot, we have metal detectors and a live guard at all government buildings.

        I’ve paid my respects to the families on my FB page and other hard news sites. I’ve also given my opinion on guns, assault rifles and the laws of California vs. Colorado. I will leave all those there.

        All I ask is to not boycott the movie IF you were already going to see it, please go. It didn’t do anything. Art does not create people who think they are the Joker. However, if you were not going to see it, please don’t. It’s also not a macabre curiosity piece, either.

  2. Sara says:

    It won’t affect the box office, it has already broken the midnight opening record.

    • Marianne says:

      Except of course, there are now some people to scared to go out in case of a copy cat.

      This incident was horrible no doubt, but I’m still gonna go and live my life ya know? There’s no reason to board yourself up in your home in fear.

      • lower-case deb says:

        but could this be already a copycat shooting?
        i don’t have access to american cable news, so i can only trawl the internets for developing news, and i found out this chilling story about a news reporter, Jessica Ghawi, one of the victims at Aurora.

        http://twitchy.com/2012/07/20/aurora-victim-jessica-ghawi-was-tweeting-just-before-her-death/

        the Toronto shooting incident was just a month or so ago.

        copycat or not, though, i think there’s just too much shooting all around. for someone to escape one shooting only to fall victim to another, a month later.
        i wonder whether there’s going to be some policy change/security measure, etc?

      • Erinn says:

        Oh man, don’t even get me started. I live in small town, Nova Scotia. I have a friend who bought a ticket a while back and has been waiting since March to go to this movie. He now refuses to go tonight because of the shooting in Colorado.

        I can’t imagine living my life in such fear, and I have depression/anxiety dissorders – it’s bad when I’M saying someone is too afraid for their own good.

      • cr says:

        “but could this be already a copycat shooting” Do you mean this shooting? Not anymore copy cat than any other mass shooting.
        I don’t think there’s any relation to the Toronto shooting and this one, is that what you’re asking?

      • ajw says:

        The Toronto shooting, as far as I remember reading, was gang related – or at least the shooter and the intended target were connected (both young men).

      • Esti says:

        The Toronto shooting was gang-related — it happened in a busy mall, but it was one gang member targeting someone from a rival gang. I don’t think there’s any way this was a copycat situation.

        Regardless, very, very tragic. My thoughts are with the victims and their families.

    • Issa says:

      I think a lot of people won’t attend this weekend not out of fear but out of respect? Some of my friends bought IMAX tickets for this weekend and they have decided to go see it next weekend instead. Its hard to enjoy a movie you’ve been looking forward to seeing and have this tragedy in the back of your mind.

    • Becky says:

      Not true, Harry Potter still holds that record.

  3. marie says:

    There are some sad, sick people in the world. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families..

    • Ms. Candy says:

      +1
      I agree with you on this. My GOD what has this world turn into…

      • Lisa says:

        Agreed. As an American, I am soooo sad and upset about this shooting, which feels like just another one in a long line of such shootings. It seems like it’s once every year or so now, and the entire thing is just horribly tragic and totally unacceptable.

      • Marisa says:

        For some reason your comment really upsets me. The world has always been this way.

        “Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised.”

      • Trek Girl says:

        Regarding your “What has the world turned into” comment. The world has always been this way, basically. Mass shootings and killings are not new, nor should they be treated like they are.

      • marie says:

        @ Marisa & Trek Girl.. Only thing that’s changed is the media.. Although I do wonder if way back when people did it for the fame/infamy as they do now..

      • Ms. Candy says:

        The reason for my statement for the 2 who were offended by it…
        I said that because I don’t hear that type of behavior at no movie theatre; I have never heard anything like that happening at a movie theatre!!!!!
        Now u have crazy *** toting gun people shooting inside movie theatre so YES “What the hell is this world turning into”!!!!

    • beyonce's bump says:

      +2 Marie, A colleague just told me about this an hour ago. This is extremely sad news for something that should otherwise be an exciting event. IT is sick. Indeed

    • Memory30 says:

      Wtf is wrong with pple now days!!! It’s sad what went down specially cuz u don’t think this kind of shit would happen while u catching a movie and second when u think is all an act and it’s not. So sad I’m just amazed by the fact of someone doing such a thing for no apparent reason. Sorry for my English :/

    • Memory30 says:

      Wtf is wrong with pple now days!!! It’s sad what went down specially cuz u don’t think this kind situations would happen while u catching a movie and second when u think is all an act and it’s not. So sad I’m just amazed by the fact of someone doing such a thing for no apparent reason. Sorry for my English :/

  4. TheOriginalKitten says:

    Definitely a good move, no so much for security reasons but just in deference to the people that were killed.

    smh…I can’t even imagine how terrifying this must have been for the people in that theater.

    • Chattycat says:

      Kit…I agree with you that they needed to show respect to those victims, families and community in CO. I don’t think this shooting had anything to do with the movie or any character itself, but a very sick f*ck with an agenda wholly his own.

      Shootings have occurred on college campuses, in the workplace, at grocery stores, shopping malls, McDonalds’ and now, a movie theater. The places change but the psychology of the person that wreaks such chaos and carnage doesn’t. The answer to mental health issues today is “pill popping” instead of institutions where people possibly can be saved from these rampages. But hey, back in the late 70’s it became politically incorrect to have mental facilities…so as a society we have to (sadly) expect these events.

      Prayers for all the victims and to the families of them.

      • cr says:

        “But hey, back in the 80′s it became politically incorrect to have mental facilities”

        could you clarify what you mean, please? Politics/money were involved, but I wouldn’t call it ‘political correctness’.

      • Lucy2 says:

        I always thought that was more about funding being cut than political correctness. Whatever the case, surely more resources are needed.

      • Chattycat says:

        @cr…I live in the Philadelphia suburbs and we experienced a shooting/murder spree with Sylvia Seegrist back in the 80’s at a local mall. One of the points her parents emphasized was that she had mental illness but they couldn’t, nor were there, any institutions which is where Sylvia belonged. Back in the 70’s the ACLU was a big proponent that was behind deinstitutionalization…bleeding hearts agreed (i.e. the PC reference). So yes, I call it more PC then anything else.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @ Chat-And you know that people will inevitably start blaming the movie/pop culture for this when in actuality the root of the problem is so much more complex. This is probably exactly the shooter wanted.
        *SIGH*

      • Chattycat says:

        I said “big proponent” not primarily…there is plenty of blame to go around as to why we are having this discussion today…and after V Tech, and AZ, and the McDonald’s massacre…the common theme is that each of the shooters had been diagnosed as mentally ill prior and that, while taking pills helped temper their symptoms, the families couldn’t force them to take them and if they came off of the meds, well the consequences could be grave.

      • lamamu says:

        Close the loophole where the mentally ill can get guns by shutting down gun shows. That’s where guys like this get guns like that. The guy didn’t t reload once.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        A Chat-I’m not sure the Columbine shooters were diagnosed as mentally ill, were they?

        Regardless, I hear your point loud and clear. Whatever we’re trying to do to stop incidents like this isn’t working, period.

      • Lisa Marconi says:

        Harris and Klebold were “pill poppers” – both were on Paxil and Zoloft, well known to be violence-inducing drugs. Be interesting to see what the story is with this freak. http://bit.ly/Qh6aIM

      • ZenB!tch says:

        In California it began in the 60s, Ronald Reagan let out all the mental patients, by the 90s the local (Camarillo) major mental facility was shut down. It’s a college now.

        I have no idea where people go if they decide to self-commit for example. I have no idea what the story is with this person. I do know there was a minor violent mental health issue here in LA a few years ago. This time a young woman. She stabbed random people at Target. No one was seriously injured. Her poor mother had been trying to get the young woman help for years but California said she was not a danger to herself or others. So this young woman floated around and came home and left and nothing was done even though her mother kept trying. Then she snapped. Thankfully for the shoppers at Target, this was a woman if not we could have had a mass shooting at Target.

        I don’t know what the systems are in other places but our system is broken… more like intentionally shattered.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        A couple of months ago a man shot & killed 5 people in Seattle, before shooting himself in the head. His family said they were saddened, but not shocked, that he did it. They said he had mental health issues, but because of the laws in place they could not force him to get help or treatment. Plus all the funding cuts to mental health facilities, and social services in general, have resulted in thousands of people on the streets without the meds & help they need.

    • Chattycat says:

      Kit…no I don’t think the Columbine killers were mentally ill in the classic sense of being diagnosed like Seegrist, Hubert, Cho, Hennard…they were clearly disenfranchised though.

      @Lisa…yes, it seems those two anti anxiety drugs in young people can have an adverse effect but I think those two had more social behavioral issues that led to their rampage. I hope they are both burning in hell.

      • SmokeyBlues says:

        I just want to throw my thoughts on this in here. IMO, if a person shoots up a school they are mentally ill. To me it’s like seeing a person with a guide dog, you can safely assume they are blind. If a person is one of these mass shooters, then they just ARE mentally ill.

      • Sad says:

        Maybe it is time to finally have strict gun laws and not allow anyone ‘to bare arms’. Seriously you would think after all these horrible shootings that the public or people power would do something!

      • Sad says:

        Maybe it is time to finally have strict gun laws and not allow anyone ‘to bare arms’. Seriously you would think after all these horrible shootings that the public or people power would do something!

  5. Mia 4S says:

    I’ve got tickets for tonight; and I will be there with 8 friends and a sold out crowd. These violent pieces of garbage stopped scaring me a long time ago. Sad? Sickened? Absolutely. Scared? Not a chance. I’ve been to the movies at least once a month since I was a child. It’s my escape and always will be. Promotion should resume on Monday. Everyone should go see a movie. It doesn’t have to be the Dark Knight if that’s not your thing but this should not keep people from gathering together in cinemas. Unless you are in Colorado or know the victims there is nothing you can do for them. So go to a movie and do not be afraid. I’m really angry about this, another part of Americana wounded.

    May the victims and families find peace and comfort.

    • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

      Good for you Mia. I totally agree.

    • Minxx says:

      You’re angry at a mentally ill person?
      Be angry at people who put guns in the hands of people with diagnosed mental illness! Be angry at people who feel it’s normal and “there is nothing we can do about it”. Be angry at people who feel that the problem is security in American malls, not the ease with which ANYONE can get guns, tear gas, ammo and whatever the hell he/she wants to blast away innocent bystanders with ease. I know I’m angry.
      And you know what angers me the most? That Americans stopped even asking questions about gun availability. A non-issue, like the air you breathe and tampax in your local CVS.

      • Mia 4S says:

        Where exactly do I say I’m just angry at him? I’m angry at the whole world right now. Do you need a list? I don’t have space. The NRA, the gun lobby, the gun sellers, politicians, the media who make these killers famous, those who cut funding to mental health services…that’s a start. And yes angry at him. Lots of people suffer from mental illness, but are not insane. Premeditated for months, hiding, complicated explosive hookups. He knew what he was doing, and I don’t buy for a second he is legally insane. Why hide if you don’t know what you are doing is wrong? Lock him up and throw away the key.

  6. jc126 says:

    What a cowardly, worthless POS this guy is.

  7. Ruby Red Lips says:

    Jaysus what is the matter with some people?! Sick f*cker

  8. MoxyLady007 says:

    Please. No victim blaming here. No “why was a six year old even in that theater? Bad parenting”.

    Let’s place the blame on the killer and in the ineffectual system that allowed a dangerous man with killer intentions to roam free, unhelped and for him to gain access to the kinds of gear and weaponry he had. The blame for this is on him.

    • Relli says:

      TOTALLY!

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Agreed. What a shitty way for what was probably a really exciting, planned-in-advance, special treat to end. 🙁 Awful, AWFUL man.

    • johnnybadboytapia says:

      thank you Moxy, lets not over look the real issue! its sad that this has happened and my heart goes out to the families. A parent has a right to take their child to any movie any time they please without some ass hole taking their life. this has angered and saddened me to the point of tears.

      • curegirl0421 says:

        I totally agree that it’s not the point here. BUT…I have to disagree with you on the “right” to bring a small child to a hard-R movie.
        It doesn’t mean they are at fault here, I’m just commenting on the idea that it’s okay to bring a little kid to a violent movie like this.
        I know this is going to ruffle some feathers, but maybe if theater owners didn’t let parents buy tickets to hard-R, violent movies for their small children, there would be a little less violence in their lives when they got older and a kid like our shooter, who I will bet you $50 had a stack of violent video games and movies in his house that he watched regularly, might not easily plan a killing spree.
        The desensitization that goes on when a small kid is allowed to watch stuff like that – and think it normal – really can’t be ignored.

      • flan says:

        @Curegirl.

        Violent games and movies can be seen all over the world, yet the US has far more shootings than most other places.

        The easy access to ranged weapons is at fault, not media.

        These men are cowards and would only dream to do something like this when they can do it from afar. If they use a knife, they’ll more likely to get punched in the face.

    • Obvious says:

      I am with you. I do question the wisdom of bring certain aged children to this particular movie at this time of night, but it’s not the parents fault. not in the least, nobody could see this coming (at least none of them-lord only knows about the shooters friends and family).

      • cr says:

        I’m going to presume that bringing the infant was easier than finding a babysitter at that time of night.

      • Obvious says:

        Personally, I would have waited for the next days showing. yes, it’s the end of a series, but if that baby woke up and started screaming you’d have ot leave anyway and have a lot of pissed off people in the theater who’s experience just got ruined (random gunman not withstanding), it seems to be poor decision making skills to me-that being said, again, not a reason for anyone to shoot another person. period.

        I question that parent’s thought making process, but i do not blame them in any way for what happened. That is solely on the shooter.

    • Kiki says:

      I get your point. But you need to remember that kids exposed to violence at such young age tend to turn violent in adulthood, or at the very least, look at it as if violence is a normal component of life and society. You never know what these sickos get their ideas from, but this shooter in Colorado might as well been this 6 year old kid watching inappropriate movies for his age, growing up with a disturbed vision of boundaries.

  9. StephanieMarie2685 says:

    This is completely devastating news.
    A total tragedy.

    This girl’s sending her love, prayers and thoughts from Canada to Colorado..

  10. lower-case deb says:

    🙁
    my prayers to the victims and their families. may they find strength in this sorrowful time.

    and the killer’s mother who had to confirm the son’s deeds. i wonder if she’s aware of what her son’s like. she must be shocked too. poor woman.

    • MoxyLady007 says:

      The first thing she said was “you have the right man”. So sad.

      • the original bellaluna says:

        She’s obviously not so shocked. And that is truly sad.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        MoxyLady & Bellaluna, please see my comment to ChattyCat upthread (in response to her reply to #4). It truly is sad when your family is not surprised that you have done something horrific.

        My deepest condolences to the victims’ families, and my prayers for the recovery & healing of all who were wounded, both physically & emotionally.

  11. Tiffany27 says:

    I really hope no one gives this sick sob any attention as I’m sure this is what he/she wanted. My thoughts are with everyone in Colorado.

  12. Helen says:

    Why the f* is even TDKR’s box office tally a topic of conversation in conjunction with the shootings? Isn’t it enough that so many people died because some guy was derranged enough as to gas and shoot up innocent people? This could have been any other movie or no movie AT ALL, it could’ve been a park ride or God knows. Please, let’s not get distracted at what’s essential here: people have died, it should even really matter that much where it happened or what movie they were watching.

    That said, Warner Bros. deserves praise for being respectful about the whole thing. Finke should think about that.

    /rant

    • mia girl says:

      By talking about potential box office impact in the same breath as reporting the tragedy just minutes/hours after it happened, at a minimum Nikki Finke showed terrible judgement…but having read her over the years, I wonder if her character is flawed by a major lack of compassion. I get that it’s the business she lives in, but for goodness sake, this is about real lives lost. Im not trying to be “holier than thou” but, it just seems like a lack of common decency.

      • Lucy2 says:

        Agree- way too soon, if ever. Who gives a crap about box office when something this tragic has happened? Poor taste by Finke.

      • Eve says:

        Mia girl, I agree with you. But Finke is not the only heartless a-hole talking about boxoffice.

        Heck, would you believe me if I told you that there are people joking about this on IMDb? I’ve been reporting these users like crazy but IMDb’s moderators are inept (most of the time). They take forever to remove the posts, threads or ban the a-holes who start them.

      • Issa says:

        Nikki Finke is a souless arse. Its why she’s so hated in Hollywood.

  13. the original bellaluna says:

    What kind of f*ckwad does that?!? Thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families and loved ones.

  14. mia girl says:

    My thoughts are with the victims and their families, the people working at the theater at the time, and the police and rescue workers who responded to this tragedy.

  15. Kim says:

    Bloomberg upping security in case there are copycats.

  16. really says:

    Also from Deadline:
    “I have confirmed that the studio which released The Dark Knight Rises paired it with the official movie trailer for Gangster Squad, an upcoming pic set in 1949 about a ruthless Mafia Godfather who runs Los Angeles. One of the scenes in the trailer that’s been playing all morning today shows a gangster with a machine gun shooting up people in a movie theater from behind the big screen. Several moviegoers tipped me to this scene.

    This morning I called on Warner Bros to take this trailer down immediately. The studio’s response to me? “There’s a meeting about this and then a decision will be reached.” I just received the call that the trailer is being pulled. But only after I complained.”

    • Mia 4S says:

      God that Finke person is a piece of work! I’m sure it’s only because she complained right? *sarcasm*

      I suppose next we have to run through the blame the movie, all movies, video games, Marilyn Manson, and my neighbor’s dog script? Same conversation we always have! If we are not going to talk real change, why bother?

      • Melissa says:

        I don’t think it’s necessarily blaming the trailer, it’s just that it would probably scare the living s*it out of people now who are at the movies in the aftermath of what just happened.

      • Tiffany27 says:

        That trailer scared the living sh*t out of me last night before I heard about the shooting. It made me real nervous in a room full of strangers before TDKR.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        It’s always easier for people to take the simplistic approach of blaming pop culture or a movie trailer than to actually look at the problem as a whole: the foundation of this country in a historical sense, the complexities of modern-day society and the intricacies/unpredictability of human nature frightens, overwhelms and confuses people. It’s easier to just believe that someone who is not of sound mind is simply copying something they saw in a movie or a video game or heard in a song.

        @Melissa-typed this before I read your comment and re: your comment-that’s totally understandable. This is a fresh wound for sure.

  17. Vee says:

    What a sick mad man!

    My love and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

  18. Mia says:

    Just wanted to share this news:

    one of the Denver victims had just narrowly missed being a victim in the Eaton Centre shooting in Toronto. Her blog post on it is now making the rounds as she wrote about a “strange feeling” that led her out of the Centre mere minutes before the shooting, but helped her learn to appreciate her life more.

    I know some people will draw parallels to Final Destination etc. but I think what is really key here is to remember that we should appreciate every day we have left with our loved ones.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/07/20/denver-shooting-victim-eaton-centre.html

    • curegirl0421 says:

      I hate that they’re calling this Denver. It’s not Denver, it’s Aurora. I know it’s a small thing, but still – bugs me. News media needs to get their facts right, it’s important.

      • Mia says:

        I’m sorry, I didn’t realize. I just wrote based on what the article said. I’ve grown up in a small city so I totally understand your annoyance.

        The blog entry is truly haunting.

      • SashaVice says:

        I’m pretty sure they are just calling it “Denver” because people are more familiar with the general location where this shooting happened than if they said Aurora

      • MrsNix says:

        I lived in Lakewood for 7 years, and people always call the surrounding suburban towns “Denver.” Like Manchester and Ballwin, Missouri are called “St. Louis,” etcetera. Aurora is part of the Denver Metropolitan Area and the Denver International Airport is in Aurora. As someone who still considers the Lakewood/Golden area “home,” I think it’s a bit picky to be offended by this. There’s nothing intentionally offensive about it, and Aurora is part of the Denver sprawl.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Someone at work was just talking about this woman.
      SMH…UNREAL. Her poor family 🙁

    • Jackie says:

      If you really want chills, you should read her blog about the day at the Eaton Center. I nearly burst into tears on how she escaped one shooting spree to only fall victim to another. Her poor family, I can’t even imagine.

      http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        I just read it..her first-hand description is both chilling and heart-breaking. What a nightmare for her family 🙁

  19. Vera says:

    I was on tumblr a few hours after it happened so I learned of this fairly quickly – the information then was horrifying. I’m not saying what occurred is any less tragic, just the early reports involved a baby girl being shot at point blank (which I believe is not the case, just a story that came out in the mass confusion). Everything about this is just horrible and I give my best wishes to all the people and families hurt by this.

    • lower-case deb says:

      these reddit posts confirmed that the 3-mo baby was discharged into parent’s care & doing well.
      http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/wvimc/comprehensive_timeline_part_3_aurora_massacre/

      however, many are still critical and they’ve started a blood drive, especially O- and platelets.

      🙁 i’m reading through the post with tears in my eyes. the sinister event in sharp constrast with a shining example of human empathy (by everyone involved, from the medical teams, the hazmat crew, and even the redditor who updates this timeline).

    • curegirl0421 says:

      Yes, the baby wasn’t hurt at all, they went to the hospital as a precautionary measure.

      • sauvage says:

        Oh my God, I am so grateful for this information. Where I live the infant is still reported as having been shot. Oh. My. God., thank you. This is not AT ALL to play down the deaths of all these other innocent people, it is just SO GOOD to hear that at least the baby survived and has his or her whole life ahead of them.

  20. carrie says:

    all my sympathy for the victims and their families

    according to some journalists who were there,it’s TDKR crew who learnt the news to the publicists and it’s their decision to delete the interviews/press junket and after it was the panic.
    Marion Cotillard only learnt the news when she’s arrived to the hotel (some journalists heard her crying)
    It’s Warner Bros who deleted the premiere of tonight but there is also another premiere at Le Grand Rex tomorrow who is maintained (until now)probably without the TDKR crew

  21. hairball says:

    Totally for banning guns except for police. Oh I forgot the argument guns don’t kill, people do. Uh, yes, but a lot less chance of massacre when it’s a knife.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Hi hairball-

      The problem with that is that *SOME* police are guilty of being trigger-happy also; innocent people have been shot by policemen before. Humans are error-prone period, we’re not robots. Plus if police have guns, people WILL technically still have access to guns. Whether they get them from the same place that police get them (even if it’s regulated, people can still steal) or stealing them from the actual police OR using police as pawns.

      Plus what if another country (with guns) invades our (hypothetically gunless) country. Well, in that case, I personally want a f*cking gun.
      The only fair solution would be to ban guns, period. Everywhere. But alas, we know that will never happen.

      BELIEVE me when I tell you I am the FURTHEST thing from a gun-proponent but it’s just a very complex problem.

      • videli says:

        It is true that access to guns would slow down and possibly thwart a foreign invasion. But in the case of the United States it is hard to conceive a land invasion. Rather we would be pulverized by missiles before being able to reach for the Glock in the drawer.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Yeah I was thinking that as I typed it, likely it would be a bomb-drop. So my hypotheticals are totally out there but you get my drift right? It’s just a difficult issue. I have a friend from Iceland who says the police force are only allowed to carry those rubber baton things, no guns. He said as a result, nobody ever calls the police because they are in essence, completely ineffectual.
        Ultimately, I feel like banning guns is impossible because now that they’ve been created, there’s no going back, you can’t un-create them and they’ll always be able to be obtained somewhere in this huge world.
        I guess blame the Chinese for inventing gunpowder 😉

      • Chattycat says:

        Kitten…you’re right. If somebody wants something their gonna get it…legal or not. Guns, drugs whatever. It would be great to think laws would keep things like this from happening, but they won’t. No easy solutions on this whats-so-ever.

      • flan says:

        A country invading the US with guns? Now?!

        That argument would have made some sense 100 years ago, but now it’s impossible for any existing army to step even a yard into the US without being annihilated, since I’m pretty sure that America has the equipment to deal with an army ‘invading with guns’. And even if anyone tried it, no civilian would get a look at it before it’s gone, let alone help shoot at it.

        In fact, I doubt that any hostile army would even get within a 1000 mile range from the US before American forces would attack it.

        As for accessibility to guns: a lot of these shooters are awkward, angry for not being worshipped, but non-gangster men. The easy access to guns might be what transforms their fantasies into plans in the first place. They would be too shy or scared to go out and meet gangsters to get guns, but if it’s readily available that threshold falls away.

        For when was the last shooting in Iceland again? Right.

        Taking away that easy access would not stop all shootings, but it would stop quite a lot of them.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @Flan-sweetheart- Are you trying to compare ICeland to the US? How many people live in Iceland? Do you have any idea? 319,000. How many people live in the US? 311,591,917. So yeah, maybe if Iceland was as large and as populated as the US there would be more shootings. In fact, GUARANTEED there would be more, just based on law of averages. Please don’t oversimplify things-don’t try to compare two vastly different countries, with different ages, different histories, different cultures, different populations. It’s just unfair. Making guns less accessible won’t prevent these kinds of crimes-do you know why? Because this man would have made pipe bombs, made molitov cocktails, made weapons. People like him are hell-bent on killing, hell-bent on destruction, and hell-bent on achieving infamy. Without access to guns, maybe he would have killed 8 instead of 12. Is that really success to you? People just want to believe that the answer is simple when it’s JUST NOT. Human nature is to blame, human darkness is to blame-not guns. Sorry but that’s the truth, as ugly as it may seem. It’s comforting to think that this could have been preventable, that there’s an easy solution. Nope.

    • RuddyZooKeeper says:

      And then you are left at the mercy of, not only the criminals who don’t care that guns are illegal, but of your own government which most certainly will not disarm itself. No thank you.

  22. Janet says:

    Looks like I’m going to be waiting till this one comes out on cable.

    People are effing nuts.

    • Mia 4S says:

      When Virginia Tech happened did you drop out of university? Be sad, be angry, don’t be afraid. Wait a bit if you are uncomfortable but if you wanted to see it in theaters, go see it in theaters. Don’t give these violent losers even a bit of power over you.

  23. Migdalia says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the end to midnight showings in Colorado

    • RuddyZooKeeper says:

      Well I am certainly anticipating an across the board ban on all costumes from here on out.

  24. Aqua says:

    I hope the focus of this sad tragedy isn’t on the shooter/killer or on his family and what warning signs they may have missed.But on the victims and their families.My condolences to all who may have lost a loved one or friend and a prayer for those who have survived and may have some difficulty dealing with what has happened.

  25. Erina says:

    This is my hometown. To this day my parents still live less then 10 minutes away from here. It’s a very strange feeling to see a place you grow up going to end up on national news for something like this. There isn’t a single friend I grew up with that isn’t reeling from this or trying to find out if friends were there on facebook. My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families.

    • curegirl0421 says:

      Hugs to you from Longmont. 🙁

      • Christine says:

        I’m in Lakewood. Frantically checked with my Aurora friends to make sure they weren’t there last night- they weren’t. But I’ve been to that theater- surreal and I cannot fathom the terror the victims felt.

    • MissyA says:

      Love from Cap Hill/City Park. <3

  26. Sarah says:

    This is just so devastating. Colorado has been through enough. Not to mention that this massacre happened about 13 miles away from Littleton….

  27. Nicolette says:

    What is going on? Can’t people just go out to a movie without worrying about some psycho? I only hope this doesn’t “inspire” any copycat nut jobs out there. It’s frightening to think how easy it would be to do this sort of thing in any situation where there is a crowd of people.

    My thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families. Simply horrific.

  28. TheOriginalMaxi says:

    I live in Denver, Aurora is about 10 miles east. This is so fucking sad, what is wrong with people???

  29. Feebee says:

    Thoughts are with the victims and their families. What a tragedy.

  30. Reece says:

    I feel so bad for the people and their families.

  31. Such devastating news. My prayers are with the victims and their families. I also hope this won’t prevent people from seeing the film. I saw it earlier this week at a press screening and I’d hate for people to miss out on the (in my opinion) movie of the year.

  32. cr says:

    If reports are correct, the shooter is a former neuroscience Ph.D. student at UC-D:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-shooting-james-holmes_n_1688996.html

  33. A says:

    How horrific. Can’t imagine what those poor people must be feeling right now. I saw some young girl on TV (like a teenager) talking about how they shot a baby right next to her. A freaking baby. How can someone be so sick and depraved to do something like this?

    So about Nikke Finke. I do think she is a stone cold bitch, but that was one line in about ten postings (I read all) that concerned the shooting. She honestly seems horrified. She’s also not the only one mentioned the box office, as several others did. I think she’s just become an easy target for a lot of people. Gawker keeps accusing her of doing all these things (some of which are probably true), but they neglect to mention that ICM (the agency of which she’s accused of harassing) and The Hollywood Reporter (Finke’s main competition) are owned by the same company. Little suspicious if you ask me. Like I said, she’s a crazy bitch but she’s an easy target and often the only one who is blamed for something many others do.

    Anyway, I still can’t believe this happened. They are definitely going to be cracking on movie theater security in the future, but they really can’t do anything except put in metal detectors. Columbine, Virginia Tech, this…I don’t think they have to outlaw guns, but they should outlaw weapons like an AK-47, which this guy used. There is no reason someone needs an AK-47! Wasn’t there briefly a law that made it illegal to own weapons like that and it was overturned in the early aughts?

  34. madpoe says:

    what a POS this bastard is!
    Wish we could watch new releases in the privacy of our own homes, I hate move theaters these days and here’s freakin’ why someone has always got to act the fool! I feel for the families here.

  35. jill says:

    Rush Limbaugh

    • MissyA says:

      Ha! I woke up this morning to a text from my dad saying, “Please tell me know one you know saw Batman last night.” I laughed, because I immediately thought of the Rush Limbaugh thread.

      Had a very different reaction once I turned on the news this morning.

    • TheOriginalMaxi says:

      No, this isn’t his fault, or Obama’s or anyone in politics fault. The SHOOTER is the only one to be blamed.

  36. MissyA says:

    I live in Denver, but my boyfriend is a teacher at a very notorious Aurora high school. We’re still waiting to see if any of his kids were at the theater.

    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118201/unknown-number-people-shot-at-aurora-movie-theater

    About three weeks ago, a uniformed officer was shot in the head during a free community concert. Though that incident is completely unrelated, there is an underlying sense of anxiety and animosity in our city.

    Truly disturbing. Cities are burning to the north and south of Denver, and all this negative human energy is concentrated in the epicenter. We should be treating each other with kindness and respect. . .

    • Erina says:

      Agreed. I saw the motorcades for both those slain police. What is wrong with Colorado or really the world lately?? Too much heartbreak and things don’t really feel safe especially around here.

      • MissyA says:

        There’s been an outbreak of gun-related violence in Denver as of late. It’s a very upsetting trend. School starts for my boyfriend in a week or two, and I’m very anxious for what’s to come.

        That guy was a student at CU-Denver. Could you imagine what would happen if he opened fire at Auraria Campus?

      • Trek Girl says:

        Don’t turn this into a “What is the world coming to” thing. Mass shootings are not new. Tragic events like this one, and worse, are not new. But, yes, there has been a lot of Gun violence here lately, or what seems to be a lot. It would be great if the local government/police could do something constructive and effective to curb the gun violence.

  37. fancyamazon says:

    It is a terrible thing, and I am glad that Warner Brothers is being respectful of the victims and mindful of the security of their stars. My prayer go out to the families of the victims.

  38. Rosemary says:

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  39. CC says:

    Speechless. There some sickos out there.

  40. Reece says:

    I said this guy picked Batman because he wanted to be a BM villain. Now he claiming he’s the Joker. I just heard it on the radio.

  41. JB says:

    I haven’t read the comments yet- but what on earth were CHILDREN and an INFANT doing at a MIDNIGHT showing of a violent, extremely LOUD film?

    • original kate says:

      i was wondering that as well; taking children to a midnight showing of a dark, violent movie is a dumb idea.

      in any case, my heart goes out to everyone who lost loved ones there. it is just awful.

      • MissyA says:

        Whoops! Meant to comment below. . .

        I’m not disagreeing with you, original kate. In fact, I’m totally on your side. I’m really sick of half-assed parenting. . . my boyfriend has a Masters Degree and he is nothing more than a glorified babysitter in his own classroom. (In Aurora, I might add.)

        I don’t think *anyone* under 16 should have had any business watching such a violent movie (even with “adult supervision”) – but assaulting an infant!? Shooting a nine-year-old in the stomach? Let’s not miss the forest for the trees here.

      • original kate says:

        missy: comparing parents bringing their kids to inapproriate movies and a sick psycho shooting them is like comparing apples to oranges. one person is to blame for these people being dead: the nutjob who shot them. but let’s not forget he didn’t go to a school, or a chucky cheese, or an afternoon showing of “ice age 3” – it was a midnight showing of a mature, violent movie. no child should have been there, period.

        it is a very sad thing, and i hope the victims as well as the shooter’s family can find some peace.

    • MissyA says:

      We had a small, nervous bout of laughter over this as well. Under any other circumstance it’d be a total dick move, and I’d have been pissed to spend good money to share a movie with a screaming infant, but for now. . .

      That area of Aurora is a pretty low-income neighborhood. Maybe they couldn’t afford a sitter?

      • original kate says:

        if parents cannot afford a sitter then they should stay home; sometimes when you are a parent you have to stay home with your kids. the world is not a giant chucky cheese, and dragging a child out at midnight to see a scary movie is a bad idea.

  42. Gene Parmesan says:

    I’m so stumped. I can’t get through to several of my friends and cousin that i knew was there last night. To think i only just moved out to Chicago From CO last year. This would have been the theatre i went to. I saw the Dark Knight there, and spent countless days ditching H.S and being around that mall.

  43. Cheryl says:

    My daughters first movie was Avatar at 6 weeks old. We didn’t go the opening night, but sat in the back of an early evening show that was half full. She mostly slept, nursed, and cried only once, when I took her out to change her diaper. It was great to get out of the house, do something fun. I’m sure this mom felt the same way ( though I don’t know if I would have taken my dd to a midnight opening show…)

    I do think there is a fundamental problem though, through news and entertainment disturbed persons are getting some pretty sick ideas about how to hurt others and themselves. I think people were just as mentally ill 100 years ago, but there wasn’t this stream of violence and depravity readily accessible to everyone at such a young age. Combine this glut of normalized violence with a degrading family construct (present and active moms and or dads in the lives of children) and decreasing psychological services available…. Add a dash of “almost anyone can buy however many assault rifles they want with no problems” an here we are. (i am not talking the right to buy a handgun, or a hunting rifle… But who the fudge needs assault rifles??? The military and that is it. We dont let private citizens own nuclear weapons…) It is multi factorial, and there is no one answer to this crazy problem. But we need to do something.

    • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

      100 years ago there were lots of institutions: sanatoriums, insane asylums, mental hospitals, etc. where socially unstable people were warehoused in order to prevent exactly this sort of thing.
      You used to be able to “commit” a family member to an institution if you realized they were dangerous in any way. I think we need to go back to that. Maybe it was inhumane for a few wack jobs who could function with the proper guidance on the outside, but at whose expense? It is the innocent citizen who pays the ultimate price when as a society we favor individual freedoms above the common good.
      Violent antisocial behavior is becoming a serious daily event in our lives–it’s time we stop giving the crazy motherf***ers the benefit of the doubt and lock ’em up BEFORE they snap.

      • Chattycat says:

        Marie…THANK YOU. My posts upthread is referring to exactly that. But the bleeding hearts claim that to institutionalize is “inhumane” blah blah blah.

        What is inhumane is that 12 people died and another 59 injured last night because a mentally ill person is walking the streets!

      • Marisa says:

        Oh my god, you women have gone completely insane.
        Have you even read 10 Days In a Mad House? Cracked open a book on psychiatric history, ESPECIALLY involving women? Do you even know what the sweet crap you’re saying?

      • Chattycat says:

        Marisa…well of course we know there were problems and abuses, so what did they do? Shut them down completely when there was a need for reform but a continued need for their operation to protect the patient, their family and the general public.

        So now here we sit today, 12 dead…59 injured, having a discussion we’ve had too many times about a mentally ill person whose med’s didn’t work or they didn’t take them, whose family’s biggest fear is that something like this would happen because they knew how unstable their loved one was and afraid they were going to go off on some type of spree. And you want to know if I know what I’m saying? Uh yeah I do.

      • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

        Marisa I know exactly what I’m saying. But something needs to be done. There is absolutely no recourse for people who KNOW an adult family member is criminally insane. The way the laws are now, you have to wait until he harms himself or others before anything can be done. Mark my words, somebody out there knew there was something off about this guy in Aurora. And they were powerless to do anything about it.

      • Marisa says:

        Pure disappointment in your logic.

      • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

        Well Marisa, I’m not disappointed in yours. The idea that American society can and will absorb the mentally ill; and that all people will act respectfully if they are treated with respect is a noble one. But it just didn’t pan out.
        It’s time to accept the fact that the experiment failed and do what we can to mitigate the damage.

      • flan says:

        People being allowed to commit family members to an institution is a very scary thing.

        Especially women have often been commited for all kinds of reasons, like they stood in the way of an inheritance, they were difficult (read=refused sex or did not allow a husband to beat them) or had a nervous experience due to trauma after rape or growing up with violent family members.

        I definitely feel that psychopats should be locked up and ones that show the signs be treated more severely than now, but let the evaluation be done by a neutral expert.

      • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

        I understand that flan. I’m assuming you all realize I’m not so ignorant as to come on a board like this and suggest husbands can just willy nilly go around committing their wives for petty reasons. I am talking about the typical perpetrator of these types of crimes: young, lonely, disenfranchised men with obsessive violent thoughts—men whose families are very aware of who they are and what they are capable of.
        It’s time we start looking at this problem realistically and not as a slippery slope leading to some horrific Bell Jar scenario.

      • flan says:

        @Marie-Antoinette. I actually agree with you. I wish we could put those boys that love to torment animals or with other violent tendecies under very close scrutiny at least.

        The problem is that even though this issue is overwhelmingly a young male issue, a law (or even a program) specifically targeted at them would not come into being. This because, though white straight men are least discriminated against, they are usually first to complain and protest when it does happen.

        Imagine that women committed all these shootings. There would be no end of media delving into the feminine aspect of it and men demanding for any off-beat woman to be preventively locked up. But we hear almost nothing about the fact that the great majority of such shooters is male.

        Same with that Karin Klein bully situation (yes, I know it’s a far lesser crime, but that is not my point here). The media talked about the bullies as ‘kids’ not as ‘boys’. If a bunch of girls had done that, everyone would have jumped over each other to decry the cattiness and bitchiness of girls.

      • Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

        Every law that has ever come into being began with someone wishing or thinking it first. It has to start somewhere. We need to do something about this type of shooting violence. Maybe the first step is thoughtful people not being afraid to call a duck a duck, regardless of what those in power think.
        Once upon a time no one would have ever considered accusing a respected white man like Jerry Sandusky of child molestation. Yet, he is in jail for that very thing as I type this. These days, the cps investigates first, asks questions later whenever child sexual abuse is reported because someone was brave enough to suggest a law.
        There is no reason the same can’t be accomplished when it comes to antisocial, gun collecting, young white men.

      • flan says:

        Making a law where family members can commit each other would only lead to incredible abuses, while it might very well not stop those men if their family members don’t care/don’t know/are afraid of what they’re capable off.

        There have been more reports about psychopats in the news lately and a lot of them have shown clear signs when they are young. It would be best to focus on them when it comes to law-making.

        Kids who torture other people or animals, while terrorizing their siblings, should be placed under observation. But it should be an independent professional who declares them a threat.

  44. Marisa says:

    You’re really going to take down my perfectly legitimate comment regarding the scapegoating going on in this thread? You have commenters making up stuff how the shooters motive for the killings was “because he wanted to be a BM villan.”
    Seriously, what is going on here? Have you people learned nothing?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4

  45. I Choose Me says:

    Sorry for the yelling but WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? What occurs in the brain that would make someone want to open fire on a bunch of random people? Know what? I don’t want or need to know what’s wrong with this guy. I’m just sick to my stomach thinking about all those lives senselessly lost.

    • flan says:

      Men like this want respect that they never get normally.

      They can’t get it, because they are worthless pieces of shit and all know it, so the only way to be ‘strong’ is to use a weapon nobody can do anything against.

  46. lambeau says:

    so sad.
    this, and other attacks, should not happen.
    we can’t ban anger.
    but we can ban guns.
    i know, the second amendment (which was written in stone on mount sinai) allows guns.
    well then, ban *bullets*
    the constitution doesn’t say anything about bullets.

  47. the original bellaluna says:

    Thank you, CB et al for not Monday Morning Quarterbacking this thing. I’ve avoided EVERY other site today (except D Listed – Michael K!) because all the relentless questions about “movie violence this” and “WB should have that” is making me physically ill (see the E! links below). So thank you.

    I’m not trying to sound cold or denigrate anyone’s feelings or losses. I’d be freaked the f*ck out, too, if I had been there or had loved ones there.

    But there reaches a certain “saturation point” when enough becomes more than enough. And this mess is going to be going on for days; weeks; months…

  48. Mooshi says:

    Something seems fishy. The guy had a facebook page with NO friends, yet he was a brilliant college student.

    He had an arsenal that is almost impossible to hide even in big clothes.

    Noone except his “parents” even know the guy.

    Something isnt sitting well with me on this.

  49. Snowpea says:

    America seriously needs to sort out their gun licensing laws.

    The right wing gun lobby in the U.S. has way too much power and sway.

    Why is it so fucking easy for these lunatics to get their hands on a gun?

    • flan says:

      Agree.

      Men who start shootings like this one, are almost never hard gangsters, but frustrated boys, who never lacked in food or opportunities, but feel they deserve more recognition and are pissed they don’t get it.

      So the tired argument of ‘whoever wants a gun will get one anyway’ doesn’t fly.
      Most of these assholes would not get a gun if they were illegal, because they would be too scared or awkward to actually contact the ‘tough guys’ who would trade in them then.

      • dean travers says:

        Absolutely! I always wonder where these proud weapon owners who so terrified of losing their rights to defend themselves are when these things happen. I have never heard of some armed, heroic vigilante saving the day in these cases. Never.

      • RuddyZooKeeper says:

        Are you kidding? That “hero” thing just happened at that Internet cafe the other day. And I guarantee that if anyone in the crowd was carrying legally or even illegally, they would have stepped up and done what they could to stop that psycho. Why would you even say something like that?

    • Samantha says:

      Legality would not matter to a person determined to do something like this. If not a gun, he could have set up homemade explosives and caused a similar situation. The explosives and traps in his apartment show he had the ability.

      Hell, you can make homemade guns if you’re too chickenshit to buy them from “tough guys.”

      • flan says:

        I think you hit the right word, Samantha,: ‘determination’.

        Some guys are not determined to do this, unless the threshold is low enough.

        Making their own weapons makes this threshold a lot higher. Too difficult for many (or too scary or too many eyes on them). I especially don’t think random people can easily make such a weapon as he used.

        Remember, these men are cowards that love the easy way out. They have probably never won a real fight in their lives or they would challenge beefy guys to streetfights.

        Guys from countries with much stricter gun-laws don’t tend to do what you just described. They don’t tend to go out with such stuff to kill some random people just for a powertrip. They are either not determined enough for it or it does not satisfy them.

        For to these crazy men there is apparently something very satisfying in waving a gun around and be top dog for a few minutes. They can’t obtain that with other weapons, or don’t dare too.

      • flan says:

        Double, because I thought my comment disappeared after all these hours.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Snowpea, et al – Gun laws aren’t consistent from state to state. That’s part of the problem. And Colorado isn’t that far from NV, AZ, or TX, so he could easily have traveled to one of those states to a gun show or two and picked up his arsenal.

      It’s important to add that gun show vendors aren’t always unscrupulous – there are some gun store owners who are unscrupulous too. Even gun owners can decide to unload a weapon “off record” but responsible ones don’t, because the gun is registered in their name, which can get a tad sticky if said gun is used in a crime.

      Lastly dean t, you aren’t going to see that unless you’re in TX or FL or somewhere like that. TX allows concealed carrying; FL has that “perceived threat” law (ask Trayvon’s family about that one).

      Concealed Carry permits are expensive to obtain; require additional gun safety courses; your reason for requesting one has to be sound and will be vetted; and granted only IF all those requirements are met (and sometimes, not even then). (Unless you’re law enforcement.)

      So chances are, if you ever DO witness a Good Samaritan Vigilante pulling a concealed weapon to put a shooting spree to an end, he or she is either law enforcement, or will be doing some ‘splainin’ to law enforcement. (Which may or may not decide to pursue charges in light of the circumstances.) Liken it to passers-by who refuse to give someone CPR or help an accident victim because they’re afraid of being sued.

      Sincerely,
      A Responsible, Law-Abiding Gun Owner

      • the original bellaluna says:

        p.s. All 4 of his guns were obtained legally, and he bought over 6K rounds of ammo via the internet.

    • Dahlia1947 says:

      I am still in shock. Aurora is about 30 miles east of us and I just can’t believe that something like this that seems from a movie or a video game happened so close to home.

      I so feel for the victims and their families. -_- So sad.

      • the original bellaluna says:

        I spent my insomnia-filled wee hours praying for the victims, their families, and their loved ones. (And my earlier comment is still in moderation, 2 hours after I wrote it.)

  50. LucyOriginal says:

    My thoughts and prayers to the victims and their families.

    I lived in CO before and there was the place where I fell in love with US.

    Anyway, I avoid the opening nights like I would avoid any plague.I went to see Magic Mike last night and I saw a bunch of people all dressed up as Batman or Batman characters.

    • LucyOriginal says:

      Correction: it was the place*

      ps: I am still shocked the killer was a PhD student in Neuroscience at Univ. of CO.

  51. Shannon says:

    After this incident movie ticket prices are going to go up even more. Why you ask? Everyone knows you can sneak someone in through the emergency exit at most movie theaters. Now major theaters will nstall more high-tech software to prevent people from going through the emergency exit. This will probably be in the form of expensive security systems which will be reflected in prices of movie tickets and concessions.

    Mark my words!

  52. Shannon says:

    This a tragedy, but I have a question. Do you think this will hurt or help ticket sales?

    I’m not a movie person and standing in line for big blockbusters went out fashion when I hit my thirties. I willling to wait and watch them on my very expensive large TV at home. Yet, I wonder if the movie will now be flooded with people flocking to the movie to see it because of what happened, or the reverse.

    What does everyone else think?

    • LucyOriginal says:

      I am sorry for bringing up the box-office topic in lieu of this tragedy, but since people are wondering: For the opening weekend, I doubt it will hurt because it was pretty much sold out (I could not get tickets), but people may get super scared to go to the movies. As I said before, I went to see Magic Mike last night at AMC (tremont st., Boston) and it was crowded, and there were people dressed up in costumes at 8-9pm for a midnight show. Let me tell, it scared the cr*p out of me seing adults so into a movie. This was before this tragedy.

      ps: I could be totally wrong about the box-office…

      • F5 says:

        Yikes! That would creep me out too D:

      • Chris says:

        What’s so scary about creating a sense of occasion with a bit of passion and enthusiasm?

        And no. I wasn’t one of those people in a costume.

        Just on the whole stupid gun thing in the states. That right to bare arms, just in case the government turn into tyrants who need overthrowing, is a crock of sh-t. Do the gun nuts in America really think their guns could stop the might of the American military with its jets, tanks and missiles etc? Unless the public is as equally well armed as the military, which is never gonna happen, the gun nuts are kidding themselves. We have very tight gun control laws here in Australia as a response to past massacres and since then we’ve had nowhere near the same amount of mass shootings you guys have had, which is significant given that culturally Australia is very similar to the USA. Follow our lead America if you want to reduce the occurrences of these types of tragedies.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @ Chris-how much do you know about American history? Watch Deadwood if you want a short and brilliant synopsis. America isn’t Australia and it’s naive to compare the two. In order to truly understand the relevance of guns in American culture, you have to go WAY back to the birth of this country. I’m starting to get a bit frustrated with the oversimplification of a very complex issue and I very much hate that I feel like I’m defending the right to bare arms (makes my liberal blood boil). Tougher gun laws may/may not minimize # or murders, but it won’t prevent people from killing. This particular shooter had NO criminal history, nothing but a speeding ticket, no proven mental health issues. Again, I get that people are trying to find reasons, grasping for ways that this tragedy could have been prevented but it’s an exercise in futility. This man WOULD have killed, with or without guns. Why don’t people understand this? This tragedy is symptomatic of a very damaged, disenfranchised man who was hell-bent on killing. The gun was the easiest weapon of choice but if guns didn’t exist, that would NOT have stopped him from killing.Again, I guess it’s easier for people to believe that guns are responsible than to believe that an ugly aspect of human nature is at the root of this tragedy. Guns we can theoretically control, human nature we cannot.

    • tabú says:

      i think this will be help

  53. Lexi says:

    Long- time lurker, first time poster. Here’s a little bit of what’s going on:

    I live in Colorado, the media blitz here is crazy. The news has been playing it over and over and over, like Columbine and 9/11. Facebook has going crazy all day. One of my friends, two of my sister’s friends, and another friend’s friend were in that theater last night. My friend was in the other TDKR midnight showing (same theater though), my sister’s friend was at that showing and was grazed by a bullet, and my friend’s friend was at that showing and has been missing since last night. I received frantic calls from my sister in NY and my father in Germany this morning asking if the family was okay. Fortunately, none of us decided to go to any midnight show last night.

    People asked about metal detectors in the mall. There are no metal detectors in any malls in Colorado. The Century 16 is not connected to the Aurora mall. It is a stand- alone structure surrounded by a field on one side and parking lots on three sides. It is incredibly easy to find the ground level emergency access doors from the outside. I think this might be why he chose that theater- the Colorado Center IMAX and the Pavilions downtown certainly had bigger crowds for midnight TDKR showings (with four showings apiece) but those theaters are elevated above street level. The one at the Pavilions is on the 3rd floor and the theaters at the Colorado Center are only accessible after going up three flights of stairs. He would have been seen and taken down immediately.

    And today, you’d think that there would be cops or added security at the theaters. The Denver Post is saying that there will be extra security at most of the theaters tonight, but there was none earlier today. I went to a 9am screening of TDKR at the IMAX at the Colorado Center and there were no pat downs or inspections. Either the theaters didn’t think it was a problem so early or people are thinking that it’s an isolated incident.

    Whatever the case, my heart goes out to the victims and their families. The dude was obviously twisted and I hope he gets whatever help he needs.

    • original kate says:

      lexi – i am sorry for your friends. i hope they are all okay.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Lexi – I hope your friend’s friend is found safe and sound. Your sister’s okay then? (I mean, as okay as she can be, in light of the circumstances.)

    • Issa says:

      Thank you for sharing Lexi & welcome to the board 🙂

  54. jess says:

    I think the next couple of weeks are going to be rough for movie theatres. I remember after Columbine, we kept getting bomb threats like everyday at school. There was even one incident where their were rumors going around that the trench coat mafia was going to come on a certain day and set bombs off, it was so bad that the school sent home papers to parents telling them if they wanted to keep there child home from school that day that it wouldnt count against them.

    I think I’ll wait a while before I go to the movies again.

  55. Adrien says:

    They have cops manning the pr0n theaters to arrest potential fappers yet no one was there to protect moviegoers at the midnight showing. They just allow the guy carry that AK rifle and a shotgun inside the cinema.

    • Mooshi says:

      Adrien

      You have won the comment of the day.

      That is so damn true, its frightening.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Yes, but we all know how dangerous those porn theater-fappers can be. Nobody likes a sticky seat. /sarcasm

      You are so right it’s painful.

  56. skuddles says:

    OMG, what in the hell??!! Those poor victims and their devastated families….

    I hope they fry that little bastard.

  57. Raven says:

    No one here should be scared based on the actions of a deranged individual.

    You are more likely to die in a car crash on the ride to the theater to see “The Dark Knight Rises” then you are to be a victim of a random nut job.

    And both of those are pretty damn slim.

  58. sauvage says:

    I am sick to my stomach about this. I am so tired of people taking out the rage and contempt they feel about their life on innocent people who have nothing to do whatsoever with the shooter’s situation.

    And as always, whenever I feel completely helpless, I draw back to the one thing that’s always working throughout situations like that: my brain. I apologize beforehand, but right now the only thing about this incident that I can grasp is that the police named the wrong Batman antagonist as the shooter’s model. The police spokesperson said that the shooter had dyed his hair red – “like The Joker”. The Joker dosn’t have red hair, it’s usually green. The Batman antagonist with red hair is The Riddler.

    And yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with what happened and it won’t help anybody, but it is about the only thing that I can wrap my head around, so I’ll just throw it out there.

    My thoughts are with the survivors and the victims’ families and friends. My heart goes out to you.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      Or Poison Ivy. (Forgive me. I was up early, and I went to bed way too late.)

  59. S says:

    Thank you for at least acknowledging this terrible event, Kaiser.

    Prayers and condolences sent to the victims of this tragedy, and to their families and loved ones. My heart broke when I heard about this on the news.

    And on an unrelated note, Hardy looks skeevy as hell in these pics. I could swear I’ve found him attractive before–in Inception, I believe–but this look is all kinds of sketchy. Plus, that matte-black convertible is overkill.

  60. The Rock's Future Wife says:

    Long Time lurker, first time poster.

    It is indeed a very sad tragedy.

    I agree with those that said something about this was very fishy..this man had no history of mental illness (that’s public), no criminal history, nada…and randomly decides to attack a movie theatre one night? And he surrendered so peacefully..no standoffs..nothing..He even told the police that his apartment was rigged while he was being arrested..Either he was flying under the radar the whole time or there’s something bigger at work here–and that’s all i will say about him.

    I heard a child did die but it was a 6 year old who was there with her mother. The divorced bio dad was on the news saying the hospital told him hours later that his daughter was dead…and there was another guy who died on his birthday. When i hear about the personal stories with these victims, it just makes my heart hurt..

    and to @sauvage–I believe what Holmes was referring to was the last Batman movie where the Joker’s hair was red in a hospital shooting scene.

    • Issa says:

      Well….when they contacted his mother her words were “you have the right person.” Sounds like his own mother knew he was capable of doing it. If your own mother expected it, would say there is a long history of this guy exhibiting strange behavior. Families and friends often protect or keep secret family members with psychosis. Most shooter types are always described as nice, loners, no criminal record, intelligent, and often educated. The University of Texas & Virgina Tech shooter as examples. Throw in the Norway shooter as well.This psycho actually fits the profile.

      BTW….welcome to the board 🙂

      • cr says:

        Oh, does he fit the profile, and throw in the trouble in grad school as well.
        It’s sad that it’s so clichéd with the ‘lone gunman’ profile but he does fit.

  61. nordicgoddess says:

    i have a 3 year old and a 1 year old. we rarely get out to a movie, but when twilight opened we went with the car seat and a 4 week old baby.she slept through it. we also regularly take our kids and my nephew to kids movies..scary that this could’ve happened at a kids movie….

  62. Ivy says:

    this makes me feel very sad. makes my prayers for those who died.

  63. Nina says:

    Warner bros hasn’t cancelled today’s premiere at Le Grand Rex but the crew won’t attent the screening.

  64. Janet says:

    Babies DO NOT BELONG IN A MOVIE! Period.

    The decibel level in a movie theater is extremely stressful to babies. Have some consideration for your baby before subjecting him or her to that noise.

    It’s incredibly rude and totally lacking in consideration for other people to subject them to a crying baby while they are trying to enjoy a movie. Take a sleeping baby into a movie and there is a better than even chance that at some point during the movie the baby will wake up and start crying. Nobody pays to go to a movie to listen to your baby crying and fussing.

    There are some places you simply do not take a baby to. You don’t take a baby to a bar, you don’t take a baby to a gun range, and you don’t take a baby to the movies. Having a baby involves making sacrifices. Going to the movies is sometimes one of them. Get a sitter or wait for the DVD.

    • carrie says:

      it’s off-board about the babies here

      • Janet says:

        The guy who did this is a psychopathic ghoul. He deserves the harshest punishment the law can give him. That said, there is no excuse for irresponsible parenting. It’s two completely different issues.

    • nordicgoddess says:

      Self important whiners with a baby-related chip on their shoulders DO NOT BELONG in discussions about horrible tragedies that have nothing to do with bringing babies to the theatre (blame the victim much?).

      It’s incredibly rude and lacking in consideration for you to use something like this as a soapbox for your anti-baby rant.

      Also, parents are people too. They need to get out of the house sometimes to temporarily escape the stress of everyday work and survival. Yes, they should try to find a sitter… but you know what?? They *do* try. This can be difficult however, especially finding someone you think you can actually trust with your kids.

      I can tell that you’re not speaking from experience here and that you’ll end up eating your words when you have one of your own. In the meantime, try growing a sense of empathy. If hearing the odd sound from a child while trying to watch a hollywood movie is your biggest problem, you need to grow up.

  65. the original bellaluna says:

    The 6-year-old who died is named Veronica. Her mother, Ashley, is paralyzed.

  66. Karolina says:

    Any my parents were worried because I went backpacking to India for 2 months…honestly I am more worried now because I have go to the US for work…

    • cr says:

      If your worried about mass shootings, or even random gun violence, don’t be. Really. Unless you’re heading to a ‘bad’ neighborhood in the city where you’ll be, you’ll probably be in more danger from distracted drivers or something.

  67. Janet says:

    @ nordicgoddess: You can’t tell jack, honey. Believe me, I’ve been there. As a grandma already, I still remember very well how you can go stir-crazy being stuck in the house with a baby. However, there are plenty of places you can take a baby outdoors to, that both you and the baby will enjoy. A movie theater is not one of them.

    I was never as selfish and inconsiderate as you seem to be about disregarding the rights of people who pay to enjoy a movie without the event being disrupted by a crying, squalling baby. My husband and I went out to the movies many times while our son was a baby and later when he was a toddler, but we always took the time to find a reliable baby sitter.

    As I said before, parenting can involve sacrifices. If you’re not prepared to make them, don’t become a parent. Just because you have a baby doesn’t absolve you from being considerate of other people’s rights. People who pay to watch a movie have a right to enjoy it without being subjected to the “odd sound” from your baby. Your baby is no more special than anyone else’s. If you think you and the baby have a right to disrupt the event, they have a right to demand that you reimburse them for the price of their tickets. Get a sitter or wait for the DVD. And in the meantime, take your own advice and grow up.

  68. Gigohead says:

    Many thanks for Hollywood for doing these cancelations. If people want to see it than that’s fine but to bring in the press glorifying actors at a time like this would have people so disrespectful.