I know you guys are already talking about all of this stuff in the other Aubry/Berry/Martinez post, but let’s just go ahead and cover all of this crap anyway. As we already knew, Halle Berry’s security cameras around her property were set up so that none of them caught Olivier and Gabriel’s fist-fight (or one-sided beatdown, as the evidence now suggests). We know that this giant legal and custodial and criminal clusterf—k went down on Thanksgiving, just a few weeks after a judge told Halle that she could not move to France with Olivier and Nahla because it would effectively end Gabriel’s custodial rights. We know that Halle has done everything – literally, everything – to try to strip Gabriel of his custodial rights. So then comes this suspicious story about Halle’s real estate:
Halle Berry has VERY quietly listed her Hollywood Hills mansion for $15 million … the same home where Gabriel Aubry and Olivier Martinez faced off in a violent Thanksgiving Day showdown … TMZ has learned.
Multiple real estate sources familiar with the deal tell TMZ … a few weeks back Halle gave a prominent realtor a pocket listing — a fancy term for property that isn’t advertised. The broker — Billy Rose with the high-end company, The Agency, has history with the house. He owned it a decade ago, renovated it and then sold it to actor Frankie Muniz, who sold it to Halle several years later.
Sources tell TMZ … Rose has quietly put out feelers to other realtors and potential buyers … with some success. We’re told last week Halle got an $11 million offer, but she’s holding out for more.
In case you’re in the market, it’s a 5-bedroom, 5,900 sq. ft. Tuscan-style estate, with a huge backyard, a 1,400 sq. ft. guest house … an awesome pool and spa … fireplaces galore … incredible landscaping … and oh yeah, a motor court — where Gabriel and Olivier settled their score.
“A few weeks back”??? I would like to know exactly when. I would like to know the exact date. I would like to know if Halle had quietly put her home on the market BEFORE the judge’s ruling on the move to France or AFTER. Of course, it’s perfectly possible that Halle simply doesn’t like her current house and she’s planning to buy another home in LA. But it’s still a sketchy move, right?
In addition to that, TMZ had another bizarre story which seems to come entirely from unnamed LAPD sources:
Although it appears no criminal charges will be filed against Gabriel Aubry in the Thanksgiving Day massacre of his face at Halle Berry’s house … cops on the scene concluded he was the instigator … TMZ has learned.
According to the police report, after interviewing Gabriel, Olivier Martinez and Halle, the investigating officer concluded, “Suspect [Gabriel] arrived at victim’s [Olivier] residence for child custody exchange. Suspect and victim engaged in verbal altercation. Suspect became upset and attempted to punch victim’s head but missed and struck victim’s right shoulder instead. Victim returned with 3 punches to the suspect’s head, causing him to fall to the ground. Victim’s fiance [Halle] notified police.”
It’s interesting … Olivier and Gabriel each claimed they said nothing to incite the other, but the report concludes both were smack talking.
According to the conclusions in the police report, Olivier acted in self defense: “Victim defended himself and punched the suspect.”
And law enforcement sources tell TMZ … Gabriel never told police about the alleged death threats made by Olivier both the day before and during the fight … threats he later claimed were made by Halle’s fiance. What’s more, cops contacted Gabriel after the fight and asked if he had more info, and he passed. There was no mention of death threats.
Nonetheless … in the end law enforcement believes it’s a case of mutual combat and it’s almost certain Gabriel will not be prosecuted.
This just reads as a reiteration of the original story which was pushed out by Team Halle on Thanksgiving. And here’s my problem with the continuing story line of “Gabriel never mentioned any of this on the day of the fight”: as we now can see from Gabriel’s awful injuries and his side of the story, he had been brutally beaten and Olivier had slammed his head into concrete. That’s head trauma, a concussion, and I think it’s weird that everyone is like “well, he should have told his side of the story even though he had just been knocked unconscious” or whatever.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
*irritated flail* will this ever end????
Yes please Hell Berry quit acting, sell your house etc.. Just… Disappear!
She’ll be putting herself back on the market after Olivier dumps her crazy ass.
Shady b*tch.
I predict that Halle’s vengeful hatred will destroy her in the not so distant future.
If only she didn’t try to drag her daughter along…
Oliver should thank his lucky stars that Gabriel is there for Halle to hate because if he wasn’t, Oliver would be her only outlet.
There’s a reason she has a history of being a troubled psychotic bitch….because she is one.
Olivier should just wait until he and Halle break up. If what she’s done to GA relentlessly for going on 2 years doesn’t send up red flags for him, on top of what a simple Google search of Halle Berry + exes would return, he’s as nuts and delusional as she is. Every ex-gf isn’t as sweet and classy as Kylie Minogue, Olivier.
He’ll get the same treatment as every other one of her exes — dragged through the mud and destroyed by her PR machine when she no longer has a use for him.
Her daughter is going to hate her when she’s old enough to understand Halle is trying to separate her from her Dad. As for Halle, Karma is a bitch. She will get hers.
She’s been looking really mean in recent photographs. Like, scary mean.
…she’s ugly inside and out… and that daughter knows… even now… she knows what an ugly vengeful evil bitch her mother is… and what’s even better… is that child is MUCH more beautiful than Halle… even in Halles “good” years…so Halle will be jealous of her one day soon… mirror, mirror Halle… you venal bitch…
I’ve been hoping all along that Nahla would be with Gabriel when the inevitable meltdown/breakup with Olivier happens.
I don’t care if Halle’s toxic anger destroys her, but I pray Nahla’s not around or included in the mix.
Ha! That says she was moving to France with or without courts approval. Courts didn’t give it to her so she’s going at it another way. She’ll do anything to get her way. I agree….shady bitch.
Halle “Scary” – a nickname well earned.
I saw a commenter somewhere that called her Hella Scary
That is exactly what I’m thinking. She’s going to make a run to France and then hopefully she’ll be brought back in chains before losing primary custody.
Not necessarily. I think she honestly believed her case was solid so selling the house was the natural thing to do. She did a pocket listing because she wanted to put out feelers before being “officially” able to move. If you have the mentality of being completely right, than why wouldn’t you assume the court would see it your way? This woman is mentally ill in my opinion. I’ve seen this behavior from others too much in my life. The problem is that she has the money to back her delusions. I don’t think she sees herself as lying. This is the way she honestly sees the world which is why she can be so convincing.
I agree, eileen. I’m willing to bet money (I don’t have) that she counted on moving to France one way or another, and that house was on the market PRIOR to the judge’s ruling.
Since then, it’s just been sour bitchy grapes and planned revenge.
@Kaiser …
So, you think the cops were lying when they said they contacted Gabriel ‘after’ the fight … meaning (I assume) after they interviewed him at Halle’s house immediately following the incident … and asked him if he had any more information to add?
…or it could be that he had a concussion, was confused and in pain and at that time had nothing to add. We don’t know when the cops did a follow-up, it could have been several hours, a day or days later.
…or he wanted to talk to lawyer first because with Crazy and Crazier, I wouldn’t trust anyone who wasn’t being paid defend me. The LAPD is notoriously corrupt.
@ Relli – you hit the nail on the head. Having been the victim of a crime and dealing with LAPD myself, I have lost a LOT of respect for them. I’ve always had tremendous respect for law enforcement (and have family members in the field), but when they blatantly lie to your face, it’s impossible to trust them. Wish it weren’t that way.
relli – It’s not just the LAPD. The feds are also liars.
@ pamspam – I am so sorry to hear that, what a terrible situation to be in. I only learned of the LAPD corruption from 48 hours and other crime shows. Seriously there are so many stories out there of compromised investigations and corruption, no other city force is highlighted as much.
Love your screename!
Emma: Who even knows where TMZ’s information is coming from and how accurate it is. That article really irked me and I don’t know if it is because TMZ is Team Halle or if it’s because the police investigation seems royally skewed.
Secretly puts her house on the market around the same time she loses her court case (even if she put it up before the verdict, why keep it on the market if the judge said she couldn’t move with Nahla to France?). She’s quitting acting. Plus, this oddly timed beatdown with GA where he gets all of the blame per BHPD (who have employees working as her security when off duty). And HB and her employee are the only witnesses and GA has absolutely no motive for instigating any sort of fight with OM or HB because he got everything he wanted through proper legal channels and was begging for cops to get the video tape b/c it proved his side of things. GA’s mere arrest, even if he didn’t start it or finish it, opens him up to deportation proceedings.
Yeah, this isn’t shady at all. It wouldn’t shock me if her plans were to try and make a run to France with that kid sooner than later IMO.
You make a lot of excellent points PleaseICU. I didn’t realize she hired off duty cops for security – that troubles me now knowing the cops came up with the “Aubry started it” scenario. And if the fight was deemed “mutual combat” how is it that Aubry suffered a broken rib (likely from a kick when he was down) and had his head smashed into the pavement – to the point of suffering a concussion? That’s hardly mutual combat. Now I get why Martinez claimed Aubry hit him in the shoulder – to explain the shoulder injury, which likely came from tackling and punching Aubry. I also think the reason Martinez didn’t seek medical attention for his hand was to downplay the injury to support his claim Aubry started it and he merely defended himself – as opposed to pummeling Aubry within an inch of his life. And now we find out Berry had put her house on the market weeks back. The whole thing absolutely stinks. I think you may be right about her planning to run with Nahla, court ruling be damned.
Personally, I can’t wait for the day her and Martinez turn on each other and the ugly hits the fan. I think he’ll be every bit as nasty and vindictive towards Berry as she will be to him.
I think that any off-duty LEO who accepts money/favours to be “security” has a distinct conflict of interest, and should be discounted thusly.
I can’t believe no one in LE sees that.
For someone who claims to be 100% about her child, she sure is 98% about herself. I had a friend when I was younger whose parents got divorced when she was a kid, and they stopped putting her first and started using her to get back at each other, especially for money. By the time I’d met her she was one of those people who just wanted attention, good or bad, from anyone, for anything. Now she’s 18 and has a child with a guy who hits her, because her parents never stopped to think about her. And guess what, she hates them. I’m not saying this will happen to Nahla, it’s just easy to forget what things like this do to a child who will everyally be an adult
That’s awful for your friend Evelyn! I’m so sorry to hear 🙁 Lord knows what will make her see sense about this. I hope she isn’t planning to run away with their daughter cos that would not only break Gabriel’s heart, Nahla’s too. It’s so frustrating as to why she is keeping up this mess.
I have friend who has always had to be the adult with parents in more ways than just one. They both are decent people but incredibly unstable each have been married at least 4 times since she was a child and she is now 31. A few years back when her daughter was small and her and her husband were having problems she was contemplating an affair. OOOH Please BELIEVE I threw down at her. We have never really fought but i was so angry at her and told her to her face, “you better not do to your child what was done to you. YOU KNOW how much that hurt and what you went through DO NOT DO THIS to someone else.” She did talk to me for awhile ……
You’re a good friend. Hope it worked out OK for her. I know when you’re younger, leaving always looks like a good way out of any problem. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn’t.
You ARE a good friend!
Well thanks ladies, i just wanted her to be happy. We have been friends since we were six and i know heart, and in her heart she wanted love and stability. The man she married gave her all that and more plus he loves the shit out of her despite her being a bit of a spoiled brat. He is not perfect but even I as a single girl (at the time) could see that he just wanted to make her happy and did everything in his power to do so. It was a defining moment in our friendship and my reaction even surprised me but having sat with her while she cried over her parents and the heartaches it gave her i didnt want to see her do that to her little girl.
We all have demons that we have to fight, but i am a big believer in facing those challenges head on and facing them.
I wish I had a friend like you – my parents were the same way and your post made me realize that’s why I end up with people who give me the least bit of attention. Thanks for enlightening me and hope your friend is doing a lot better. She’s lucky to have you.
GA had a concussion. I don’t know the law in CA, but in some states anything the concussed person says within 24- 48 hours of a concussion can not be used against them.
Oliver needs to be charges with assult and battery. no two ways about that.
Agreed. And it’s insane that he’s referred to as the ‘Victim’ in the police report.
Whackjob Halle is just obsessed with “beating” Gabe…now it’s literally as well as figuratively. If the cops and the judges don’t look at the whole big picture and the history here then there will be as much shame on them as the whackjob and her rat-faced counterpart, because then they(cops and judge) will have footprints on the effects this has and will have on Nahla.
Can she be without a man for five seconds? Or hold out five more minutes for a decent one? The one word that describes her for me: SMUG. Actually two words, the other being FUG. I call her Helle.
You can find Psyco-Berry right next to Count Chocla in aisle 3.
If, per the official police conclusion, GA punched OM’s shoulder, as hard as OM said to where he got medical treatment for that sore shoulder, why do GA’s hands show absolutely no signs of having done that sort of action?
He has no swelling, bruising, or cuts that one would think would be present for hitting someone that hard in the shoulder, especially being an untrained fighter.
And OM may have hit GA’s swollen shut eye three times but no way did OM stop at 3 punches total. Not with the gravel marks, the cuts on GA’s face, the swollen nose, the black eye, the swollen shut eye and broken ribs.
And if it, in fact, WAS “self defence,” one hit (that knocked GA out/to the ground) should have been sufficient.
There was absolutely NO REASON to continue beating him or kick him in the ribs while he was down.
I abhor conspiracy theories but this is so sketchy.
Even if Gabriel did take the first swing, I find it very hard not to believe that this wasn’t part of a Halle/Olivier plan, post-court loss.
Olivier’s whispered french smack-talk, Olivier inserting himself into the hand over, the cameras being pointed away, the house secretly on the market, the paperwork on the AVOs ready to go… If you were going to use anyone to provoke your ex into showing himself to be a violent, irresponsible parent, an ex-boxer who could defend himself act as provocateur is ingenious.
Gabriel was stupid enough to take the bait.
Thank you, Kaiser, for catching that significant point I was trying to point out last night in my posts!! I could kiss you for it!
Listen, guys, a head that gets punched into concrete hard enough over the pre-frontal cortex, the thinking part of the brain, will cause victim to sustain serious cognitive problems temporarily, and perhaps permanently. This was a deliberate assault by someone who wasn’t as much angry as he was behaving like an enforcer. Olivier gave a measured beating.
Olivier was goading the victim to take the first punch or I believe one vs. the two perps: that Olivier planned to “scare GA into giving in”. This brutal message, “We will do permanent damage to your pretty boy face if you keep fighting us” is written in the pictures of victim’s face, the smacking of his brain with brute force into concrete, the gratuitous kick in the rib with a foot while the victim is unconscious.
Doesn’t logic demand that we ask why GA would instigate trouble in front of his child no less? He can be deported for this. He has everything to lose in this violent event with zero objective witnesses.
HB and Olivier are both straight-up crazy. I can’t. I see them lasting a while. Not forever, but at least as long as GA and HB. They are on the same crazy page. I just hope they don’t bring any more kids into this mess. They’re selfish and probably would have been better as a childless couple.
Nahla really resembles her father in the face. Can’t be good having both her mother and stepfather hate somebody she looks just like.
…nah…she can’t have more kids…thankfully… she hardly was able to get preggers with this one… she’s a barren bitch…
@giddy :she could still get pregnant. Yes, she had a hard time getting pregnant however she could still use invitro, a surrogate, or adopt. Let us just pray and hope no more children are brought into this foolishness.
i want to know where the H was Nahla when all this BS was going down. if GB punched Olivier in the shoulder he should have some kind of mark on his hands.. his hands were clean.. and the cameras missed the fight why not have at least one pointed at your door.. you know to see who’s there? I find this all Crap and lies.
Halle is terrible. her old exes tell or her cray cray .. if olivier didn’t beat up Gabriel .. I wouldn’t be surprised to know it was halle who beat him up. crazy people can be super strong.
just saying.
The initial reports that I saw say that Halle took Nahla in the house as soon as Olivier and Gabriel started arguing who knows though.
Side note-I know that Nahla’s body language with GA was discussed in post yesterday. Look at her in the pic with HB-it’s as if she’s pushing away from her whereas with GA she usually has her head on his shoulder. She is clearly more comfortable with her father. Poor kid.
Absolutely. Nahla is always snuggled up to Gabriel. I used to think it was because of the paparazzi but I’m beginning to think it’s because he’s the one she trusts and adores.
Nahla may be young, but kids are extremely intuitive. Maybe she can’t verbalize or process what’s going on with her parents, but I would think on some level she (unfortunately) knows.
I’m liking how somber Halle’s been looking these days, in stark contrast to Olivier’s smug mug. I have a very faint hope that she is having a Holy hoshit’ moment and realizing that she may have gone to far and lost control of this situation.
Unfortnately for Nahla I see this relationship lasting for a good few years longer. It’s a case of two people who deserve each other, clearly they both have a similar brand of crazy: they both have a need for drama, they’re both very controlling people who will do whatever it takes to get what they want. It will last either until Halle gets bored of him and sets her sights on the next thug or Olivier loses it with her and gives her 2 shiners to match Gabe’s.
I’m Team Halle . If she wants to “Run” with her kid I say go for it . I hate like hell She ( Halle ) gets blamed for everything .
I know. How I hate it when people get blamed for the things that they do! (Sarcasm.) She should meet up with Lindsay – sounds like they have a lot in common.
…or hook up in a threesome with Chris Brown… that’s how this bitch should roll…
Stacie, I well understand outrage when the victim gets blamed for victimizing the. perp. However, respect for logic and reason demands us, in this event, to look at the facts that so far are verifiable and bloody hair, victim unconscious, clean hands except blood in fingernails tell the whole relevant story of who victimized whom.
She lost the court case. Plain and simple. Kidnapping her child as a way to get something a trial judge was unwilling to grant her is not the answer. That type of behavior hurts the child.
Not to mention it teaches Nahla she can break the law just like her mom. Yeah, that’s a great example Halle’s setting for her child.
I’m sorry… I seem to have missed the part where she impregnated herself. Oh wait, she didn’t, right? She was in a relationship with Gabriel Aubry at the time. He is Nahla’s father. Halle does not own that child and is not the sole parent, even though she would like to be.
Way too much energy on other people’s lives.
Says a person named “BLOGAHOLIC”
Haha! +1 eileen!
I didn’t say don’t blog I said too much energy. When someone you know nothing about angers you so much then it’s too much energy. thanks that you like my name👏
Maybe she is looking for a home that is less paparazzi accessible in CA.
It looks like the current one if far too accessible.
It doesn’t have to be shady.
The timing is weird considering that she was supposedly waiting to find out the result of her court case. She may have been thinking France or a new house, so a move either way, but jumping the gun before the court decision seems odd. Why do that with so much else going on and so unsettled?
My point is, that if this is an LA move, then why does it matter if she is selling the house?
Granted I don’t know why she put the house on the market, no one here does for sure. I’m just speculating.
I’m surprised that she didn’t put it on the market after the stalker broke in.
I agree that she may just be looking for a house with more privacy – BUT I also think she creates her own circus. How many celebrities have babies/kids? How many are *terrorized* by the paparazzi? Not many. I have a feeling no matter where she moves, chaos will follow.
Excellent point. Have they never heard of PTSD. I’d be in shock if someone had just smashed my face into concrete.
PTSD isn’t diagnosed that immediately. Your point is well taken, though. An ambulance was called and Gabriel was taken to hospital immediately. Besides the mess of blood, he had to be properly assessed for brain damage. He would have been given a CAT scan at the least looking for damage in the brain.
I thought PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder) was more of a psychological disorder where someone was traumatized by witnessing or being a victim of horrific events. But I do think Aubry would have had a concussion and that would have affected his ability to remember the fight and/or communicate what happened to the police.
She has manipulated shit all of her career BUT this time, its not going away.
She should have thought about it when she chose Gabe and she really nds to think about messing with the drunk midget.
The more that comes out about this case the more I loathe Halle. I feel sorry for GA. Halle is a rich and well known celebrity who seems to threaten to take Nahla away at every possible turn. That would be terrifying as a parent. I hope a judge sees through all this bullshit! Why was OM even at the handoff, why is it he has no injuries except to his hand?? GA won the case, he had no reason to be upset or start a fight. I hope this ruins her career and her image.
While the timing is certainly suspicious, it’s understandable that Olivier doesn’t want to live in the same house that Gabriel did (I know that if it were me, I would rather move to someplace new that was “ours” instead of “theirs”). However, if Halle has not ALSO been looking for a new house to buy, then this looks very, very much like she’s trying to make her move to France.
Time for Aubrey to start reading up on the Hague Convention (an international treaty for returning children kidnapped by a parent and moved to another country)? France is a member country. This is starting to get pathetic (or maybe we are well past that point).
If she is trying to make a run to France, I think it will backfire. This case has had so much publicity that trying to sneak to France with Nahla will wind up all over the media.
There is a difference between being legally able to take Nahla away and breaking the law to do it. HB will not be able to come back here for work without getting arrested. I know her career is not all that hot anyway, but it will still limit her options if she cannot work here anymore.
Don’t forget that she’s now retiring, so no career to worry about…
Thanks to TMZ and now Celebitchy, this shady move is no longer a secret.
I wonder if Gabriel knew.
Anyone who’s getting arrested or has been arrested better not talk to the police. I hope everyone knows that. It won’t help you since it’s not the police’s decision whether you get charged or not in the end. Initial police reports are often incorrect for various reasons – one of which can be they only talked to one side.
If Aubry was arrested and had an attorney then the police could not talk to him without permission of his attorney. Who knows what “he passed” means. Once you get arrested you talk through your attorney.
My bet is Halle is selling her house because she needs the money or she intends to flee to wherever. That’s why Olivier was so enraged by Aubry winning the recent custody decision.
Halle has been going on and on about how unsafe she feels in LA, but she doesn’t bother to have a security camera on the front door of her house? And why the hell didn’t a third party, such as a nanny, there to greet Gabriel when he dropped off Nahla?
This whole thing strikes me as just another crazy setup of Halle’s. Based on the nature of the injuries, I believe Gabriel’s take on what happened and have no trouble imaging Olivier (with Halle egging him on) making death threats.
Halle is totally batsh*t crazy, willing to do anything to sever ties between Gabriel and Nahla. She’s also filthy rich, with roughly 70 million bucks to continue in her quest to destroy the father of her child.
It wouldn’t suprise me in the least if Halle — who’s been involved in TWO hit and run accidents, so clearly she has no moral compass to speak of — stoops to moving Nahla out of the country illegally so that she’ll never see her dad. Or worse, having Gabriel killed.
I feel bad for Nahla. 🙁
Olivier does not seem like he’d be a loving stepfather, especially since she’s half Aubrey.
…he’s the kind that will sexually abuse that child when she’s 12… and Halle will be “the last to know”…don’t doubt it…
Especially since she looks just like her father!
I can’t see a judge at this point not ordering them to use some sort of agency/service that specializes in child hand off between parents. This is a situation where there should be no contact between the parents, with the hand offs monitored in a securitized setting, where the parents have strict rules to follow regarding times and procedure.
I can’t see a judge at this point not ordering them to use some sort of agency/service that specializes in child hand off between parents. This is a situation where there should be no contact between the parents with the hand offs monitored in a securitized setting, where the parents have strict rules to follow regarding times and procedure.
If Gabriel had just been arrested, it makes sense he wouldn’t be blabbing on to the police the night of the incident. Probably waited to talk to his lawyer first.
Yeah, he’d been arrested and also had head trauma. They had to get an ambulance to take him to the hospital to be looked at because he was either unconscious or close to it and not coherent.
I’m sure GA also knows that HB’s security are off duty cops. I’d wait to talk to my lawyer too when being stuck in that type of situation. Never know if one of the guys taking his statement, writing the report, or doing the questioning is also on HB’s payroll when out of uniform.
Things I know:
1- GA was violently knocked unconscious;
2- There are no injuries to his hands;
3- OM has a “broken” hand;
4- OM took days to have something to protect his “broken” hand;
5- There are cameras in Halle’s house to protect her against stalkers;
6- GA is Nahla’s father;
7- Nahla is not OM’s daughter;
8- Someone who is unconscious cannot speak;
9- People who had concussions take a little longer to remember things.
10- Halle lost in court to move to France.
Things I don’t understand:
1- why in the world OM involved himself in Nahla’s hand off?
2- How did the LAPD got there so fast?
3- How did they know GA was punched ONLY 3 times?
4- Why the cameras did not catch any of the fight?
5- How Halle is a witness if she brought Nahla inside?
6- If the babysitter was there, why didn’t she do the hand off?
7- Why OM is not being charged with assault and battery?
8- Why a violent person, as OM is, is near Nahla?
9- When did Halle put her house for sale?
10- If all these crazy events are not a set up, what is?
11- Why don’t they make a psychological evaluation on Halle?
12- If this was all a set up, Can this woman lose her daughter’s custody? (For Nahla’s sake, I hope so).
That TMZ cites law enforcement sources don’t have a lot of credibility … they could just as easily be the off-duty LAPD cops that Halle hired and they’ll surely side with Halle on that.
Interesting that Trump tweeted about always drama with Halle. How would he know? Or is he just talking out of his butt as he normally does?
I don’t know how Trump knows. I don’t like the guy but he is buddies with a lot of HW types though. I’m sure he’s heard stories from witnesses of her drama.
If stories I’ve read on other sites about HB are remotely true, like from people who’ve supposedly worked as extras or low-level production staff on some of her films, she’s not a nice, low key person and it’s pretty well known in the industry that she’s a nightmare of a person to be around and work with. I can only imagine the stories that fellow actors, previous producers and directors have to tell.
Or Trump could be talking out of his behind like he often does.
Odd thing for him to insert himself into though if he didn’t have some knowledge or stories to go on.
He usually saves his out of his butt comments for politics or other world affairs.
Actually it’s not odd at all for Trump to comment on things he knows nothing about 🙂
I don’t think he particularly likes women in general so his comment doesn’t surprise me. However in this case even he is right about the drama.
Am I the only one who thinks this whole case could be a book and a movie? Hell, the book would be a best seller and the movie a hit.
Or maybe these two have lost the plot and are forgetting this is real life with a real little girl rather than a movie.
Except if this was a work of fiction people would scoff at the stupidness of it all.
Is she educated???
I have come to the conclusion that she is not a smart woman. She is dumb as rocks I think…No insight and very poor judgement
Really, really good post. It’s the “why didn’t he give his side at the time, then!” thing that most baffles me – just LOOK at the photos! Why d’ya think!?
The house thing just adds to the sketchiness. TMZ have a track record of pushing total BS. I’ve not completely given up hope that a DA might charge Martinez, actually.
Also interesting that people insist Aubrey is pushing his side as hard as Berry is, yet it’s only just come out that he had joint and equal custody of Nahla, and time with her. And he’s had a lot of people say he wasn’t the main carer so shouldn’t get child support, plus insist he was sketchy and that was why he only had limited visitation. He plainly hasn’t been leaking anything like as much – the only reason it’s come out now is the court documents for the restraining order app have been leaked. The family court ones have remained closed. Good for him.
According to blind item Halle is a heavy drug user, but Aubrey won’t report her, the reason she can get away with this obvious set up she has someone very powerful in LA remember she was never charged in hit and run.
My money is on her running away to France, the whole incident is a set up, her passport should be confiscated.
What happened to Olivier anyway – when he was with Kylie he was quite hot:
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Now he looks so fugly and almost like a different person.
Kylie seems like an kind and lovely woman. Compare her to Halle and it makes total sense to me why Olivier looks handsome in that pic with Kylie and why he looks so fugsome now with Halle.
It’s totally absurd that they were asking to move to France to begin with. Why? Because the mother’s boyfriend wants to? Therefore, the father should be inconvenienced and the daughter should lose her relationship with her father because the mother’s boyfriend is from another country? This is ridiculous and shameful. The shots that Halle set up to try to make it look like she was fighting off paps are so staged, it’s ridiculous. This woman is completely transparent, manipulative and, I believe, mentally ill.
There was a blind item a little while ago which seemed to be about Olivier. The blind said that he’s basically a womanizer and has a long-term lover back home in France. I just suspect this man is super manipulative and controlling, and probably makes Halle feel so insecure that she’s willing to put her daughter and ex through all of this in order to keep this dysfunctional relationship in her life.
Besides how heartbreaking this is for Nahla, my heart really goes out to Gabriel. I’m not saying he’s a saint. I’m sure he’s made plenty of mistakes. But this is a man who grew up being passed around between foster homes. He probably has little (if any) biological family to speak of in his life, and now his ex is try to take away his own flesh and blood. It’s truly sad. I honestly feel like GA has not played nasty and has followed all of the court orders but has been forced to fight back against an avalanche of crazy dysfunction. Every single situation points to HB trying to alienate him from Nahla and I 100% believe this situation on Thanksgiving was a set-up.
She is a sick, sick woman engaged to a rage-filled womanizer. Poor little Nahla.
I don’t understand how Halle wants to separate her daughter from her own father for fear that he may possibly one day do something violent but she willingly allows her daughter to be around someone who has proven he IS a violent person. There’s no way that beat down was in self defense.
Do people really believe he didn’t talk to the police about it ASAP because he was lying? Do they really think it takes that long to think up a “he started it!” Lie?
I hate to say this but I almost think Gabriel should just walk away from his daughter. It’s cruel what’s happening to her and to him and Halle seems to be certifiably bipolar so she will never just allow him to co-parent. He’s young and handsome. Go fall in love with a real woman who has self respect and a real sense of worth. Make new babies and a new family and be there if your damaged daughter comes looking for a loving selfless patent in the future. Right now it seems she has no chance of a happy life as long as her father wants to be a part of it. Halle will destroy Nahla before she lets her daddy love her. What a selfish, narcissistic pig that woman is. I will NEVER, EVER support any film she makes or product she endorses.
If she is really has some sort of a personality disorder (it is very likely that she has some severe mental health problems), then Nahla will be subjected to her cruelty on a daily basis, and Gabriel probably knows this.
It’s hard to walk away from a child you love, I don’t know how many can do it.
And, if Gabe walked away, Nahla would be in even more danger, so it wouldn’t make Nahlas life any easier.
Halle has already shown that she doesn’t value Nahlas safety or wellbeing at all.
let’s see…. who are lapd going to be more sympathetic to
— a beautiful actress with millions of dollars, capable of playing the victim and appealing to the big, strong policemen to protect her and her daughter… or
— a good-looking guy who models.
So if Gabriel died with head injuries (and it happens all the time with beatings like this), would Oliver and Halle just skip off to France, free and easy? Nahla, when she is grown, will find out the truth about her mother. I bet the little one already has a clue, something is not right with momma.
“The consequences of her behavior are always somebody else’s problem, not hers. She is never to blame for anything…Because she’s out to control, she manipulates and punishes at will. She is the witness, the judge, the lawyer, the jury, the executioner – but never the accused…She will break the rules without a second thought, if the end justifies the means.“ ‘Venus: The Dark Side’ Glen Sacks blog.
I am happy father and daughter are reunited. I believe it is what all of us riveted by this story esp. on this site wanted. ¶ Some of the comments are particularly mean spirited re: HB’s questionable fertility which I think is crossing the line, but I guess when you set up your ex to get beat down you deserve such vitriol. ¶ I’d like to ask everyone who cares the following question: If you are not going to ever marry again but want a child, why not have a palimony agreement in place including language about children to protect your assets? ¶ In all her interviews, while HB was dating GA then leading up to getting pregnant, she mentioned she never wanted to get married again; and she & GA were going to set a new standard for unconventional relationships. I am paraphrasing but that is the gist. You can find all of her interviews on line. I know at this point this is neither here not there but it is an interesting take esp. for all those upset over him getting child support and even after this latest incident ppl continue to call him a moocher. ¶Say what you want about J. Lo (who has always dated men who make less she does except BA and MA) she pays them and keeps it moving. She knows the game. TEAM NAHBRIEL!!!!