Bedhead usually covers Justin Bieber’s latest antics, so I have some catching up to do. He’s been late to multiple concerts during which his very young fans had to stay up way past their bedtimes. He’s been terrorizing his neighbors and has generally been behaving badly. When people notice what a tool he is, he complains and claims his music is so incredible it will shut people up. Here’s another antic to add to the “tool” list: a video of Bieber peeing in a restaurant cleaning bucket (above) while his friends laugh and cheer him on as if it’s the most epic thing ever. Syncophants: every celebrity’s best friend until a minor issue convinces them to sell incriminating videos to TMZ.
Justin Bieber is an oblivious, self-important little twit who goes out of his way to make the working man’s life miserable — just watch this video of the singer pissing into a restaurant mop bucket … and laughing like he’s the king of the world.
The clip was shot in NYC earlier this year — we’re told Bieber and his idiotic friends were leaving some nightclub, exiting through a restaurant kitchen, and Bieber decided he needed to take a leak.
But rather than go to a bathroom like a civilized person, Bieber — wearing pants that should literally be illegal — whipped out his junk and whizzed into a yellow mop bucket used to clean the restaurant’s floors … meaning whoever’s job it was to mop the place up had to physically change Bieber’s disgusting piss water.
And the worst part … Bieber’s friends act like the restaurant should be HONORED that the singer decided to piss there. It’s revolting.
We can’t say for sure if the group was drunk, but it sure sounds like they were.
Oh yeah, at the end of the video, Bieber sprays a photo of Bill Clinton with cleaning liquid for some reason … saying, “F*** Bill Clinton!”
It’s clear from the video that Bieber peed in the cleaning fluid just because he could, and that he thought it would be hilarious. Of course everything Bieber does is hilarious to his hangers-on. While watching this video, I found myself fascinated with the bald bodyguard type who is just standing on the stairs, smiling at Bieber while he pees. The stairs guy has a clear view of Bieber peeing. Also, I did not need to see that boy’s saggy pants hanging even lower while he does his business. Gross.
Oh and in related Bieber news, he recently asked his Twitter followers if they could send him a video of a recent UFC fight. Because he would rather publicly ask his 41 million followers for an illegal copy than order it on demand. Just like he would rather pee in fluid that’s meant to clean a floor than walk up a flight of stairs and use a restroom.
photos are from June, credit: FameFlynet and WENN.com. Other photos via Instagram
Well, of course he does. I expect him to. When there’s no one to tell you that you’re an idiot, the sky’s the limit.
Unfortunately you’re right. What an idiot.
He should be made cleaning hotel rooms, especially his own.
I wouldn’t want to stay in any room that he’s been made to clean, whether it’s his own, a hotel room, hospital room, etc. He probably couldn’t be bothered to clean a hallway properly.
Now, now, be nice; Baby’s not potty trained yet.
HA!! Amazing
Actually, a huge ex-football player did just that. In that case, Baby Bieber didn’t have a bucket to piss in, so he just pissed himself.
Why is he always hunched over like that? Osteoporosis? Take a calcium pill and visit your gynocologist, little man.
Out of control, obnoxious, entitled brat!
Memoirs of a Douche..
😀 LOL!
This kid needs a spanking, plain and simple.
But you’d have a hell of a time finding anyone willing to touch that rear. God only knows where it’s been… (although if his security guard changes him first, it might not be as bad.)
But if by ‘spanking’ you mean ‘a huge boot up his ass’, I’m game.
What a little shit!
I really try to avoid reading anything about him now. He’s turned into such a brat.
What’s his next trick? Pooping in the planters at the mall?
No, it was pee.
I feel bad for him. All these antics are a cry for help. He needs to disappear and face his issues before he kills himself or someone else.
no, no, no…it’s not a “cry for help”.
Britney’s head shaving was a cry for help.
THIS little pr*ck simply thinks his shit don’t stink and that he can do whatever he wants.
it’s entitlement, not mental health issues. he doesn’t need help, he needs a swift kick in the ass.
THIS!
The bucket should have been taken and dumped on his head, the self entitled little scrotebag.
I weep for a world that heralds this knobjockey as some sort of talent and puts him in a position where millions of stupid girls idolise him and he suffers no repercussions and actually seems to be rewarded for being such a vile, disgusting…URGH!
*flounces dramatically off to watch Cumberbatch, Tina Fey and Caitlin Moran videos on YouTube so I can calm down*
YES!!
This entitled little weenie deserves no one’s sympathy. To blame his behaviour on mental health issues is an insult to everyone who has ever had to deal with REAL mental health issues.
He is in for a rude awakening when his 15 minutes are up, the money is gone, and with it all his “friends”.
“self entitled little scrotebag”
LOL!!! I have never heard “scrotebag” before, I LOVE it! 🙂
@Lindy79 & Tiffany =) – I’d never heard ‘scrotebag‘ before, either. xD It cracked me up! Thanks for the laugh, Lindy! & yet another lovely fitting nickname
Peeing in a cleaning bucket is not a cry for help. Speeding through a neighborhood in your sports car is not a cry for help. They’re the actions of a rich entitled little brat with no one to tell him NO. Period. And as long as parents allow their children to spend their money on his s**t music, he will continue to be.
+1
He is acting out because he has issues… Serious ones. I agree he is acting like a douche. Maybe something like jail will humble him… I don’t know. But the kid’s ego is out of control and he truly believes he can do no wrong. Rock bottom will give him perspective and teach him to stop wasting his life. I can’t help but have empathy… It’s not like I have never acted stupid before.
@Diana – No, everyone has acted like an idiot at some point in their lives. & if it was just ‘acting like a douche’, I’d agree with you.
But it’s his overwhelming EGO & ‘sense of complete entitlement’ that’s such a big deal. He’s not a child, he knows right from wrong. He’s just an arrogant asshole.
Not to mention… He’s only 19, but he’s already living (& has probably been living for years already) the life of a frat boy. God only knows what else he’s gotten into.
Poor, poor child. I bet he grew up in a terrible neighborhood, or had parents who beat him, or suffers from bipolar disorder or emotional problems…..
OR MAYBE HE’S JUST A SELF-ENTITLED SHITBAG WHO’S USED TO GETTING EVERYTHING HE WANTS ALL THE EFFIN’ TIME.
Totally agree! I am not saying he is anything but a shit. All I am saying that I suspect he like all these other celebs have monstrous egos because they are surrounded by yes men all day and night. But even being spoiled is a form of dysfunction. He needs to disappear and eat some humble pie because he is on a one way path to hell if he continues like this.
He really is an entitled little brat, but I have to agree that him being a big star from a young age on may have lead to an actual personality disorder. And who knows how he’s been raised? Maybe he’s always been praised into the high heavens…This boy displays a lot of traits of a narcissistic personality disorder. I’ve dealt w. people like him. It isn’t cute. Lindsay Lohan is another example. Once their psyche is misformed, it’s nearly impossible to get them back to normal. Even in therapy. Because narcissists won’t admit they have a problem and seek help willingly. Child stars – def. a form of abuse. No one should seek that for their children.
TOK, have you seen Anthony Bordain’s response? Insightful as always!
The only thing this little douche is crying out for is a back brace.
Dear lord he’s finally realized that his pants aren’t a diaper. Now if he could only realize what a toilet is. This just makes me hate him even more and it doesn’t surprise me at all. How can parents let their kids worship someone who acts like this?
You would be amazed at how many parents don’t read celeb blogs/magazines etc. so don’t get to see this real side of him… until they’re left waiting for him for 3 hours at a concert and have to deal with crying kids.
I make it my business to tell any parent I know what a twonk he is, if they mention him.
You say he finally realized is pants aren’t a diaper, but did he? They still look like a diaper to me.
I can’t even wrap my brain around why someone would want to make their backside (and frontside, too) look like you’re walking around with a boo boo in your drawers.
Piece of shit
Was thinking the same exact thing. I would like to reiterate what you said. PIECE. OF. SHIT.
I think there’s an echo…PIECE OF SHIT!
Yeah, must be a pretty long tunnel…
PIECE OF SHIT!
He’s getting weirder by the day.
I really want to punch his face.
What’s with the dude on the stairs watching him pee? Creepy. Also, this kid needs a good spanking and to learn some manners.
Can’t wait until his time is up. Tic toc tic toc….
Amen sister.
Exactly! I said it before and will again, it’s Hammer time in 3,2,1…
I’m impressed that he knows who Bill Clinton is.
Um, he probably thought Bill Clinton was the janitor….
JB ~ He’s such a PEEliever. He is just so wild and crazy, who knows what he will do next!
Poop in a kid’s sandbox?
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
ROTFL!!!
In cases like this, I blame the parents. I don’t care that he’s over 18. I am 28, and if I behaved this way, my mom would find me, come to where I was and beat the daylights out of me. Because such behavior is a negative reflection on her. Bieber’s mom is failing by not whooping his ass on the daily.
If I recall correctly, his mom was just a kid when he was born. Which is no excuse because there are plenty of teenage mothers who raise their children to be respectful and functioning members of society.
She’s supposed to be on The View today. I would absolutely LOVE it if those women demanded to know why she never took her son in hand.
I remember when he first came out they really played up this wholesome boy thing, and I had coworkers who were talking about how nice it was to have a religious singer that their kids could look up to.
His mother has been doing the interview circuit talking about him. It is obvious that she can’t influence him at all. He is of age (sort of) and as she said he is an adult child not living at home. But the thing is he was never what he pretended to be. And she made money off that false image. Now while she is trying to be an inspirational speaker telling of her parenting.. he is showing that she failed.
I hate that whole “well, he’s doesn’t live with me and he’s an adult” crap. No. 1, lady, if you raised a decent kid, he’d probably be a decent adult. Maybe not the best ever, but decent enough not to screw with innocent employees. No. 2, just because a kid reaches that magical 18 years of age doesn’t all of a sudden mean “oh, I’m not a parent anymore and I cannot influence my kid at all.” I can assure you, my mom didn’t do that. Parenting is a lifelong job. You can still call a kid out on his shit.
Amen Sam. Amen. My mom is 62. Both my grandparents are dead. Yet even now, when she starts to say or do something her parents would not approve, she stops herself and says her parents raised her better.
First, I have to say that I think he is such an inconsiderate brat, I don’t see how any decent person could treat others the way he does repeatedly. However…
Sam wrote, “just because a kid reaches that magical 18 years of age doesn’t all of a sudden mean “oh, I’m not a parent anymore and I cannot influence my kid at all.”
In most cases, I would say this is true. However, celebs at 18 are a very different thing. There are all sorts of barriers that are put up to protect privacy, layers of people and procedures meant to keep psychos and fans out. Once a celeb reaches 18, they can use these barriers against their parents. Once they can sign contracts by themselves, they CAN prevent any influence from their parents. Agents, lawyers, business managers, etc. do not work for the parents, it is the celeb who is their client and they are obligated to enforce boundaries at their request. If the celeb doesn’t want their own parents to have their cell number (etc), that can be arranged.
Britney’s mom mentioned this in her book, how Britney was using coke and her mom couldn’t stop it because her kid had more power than she did.
I blame Canada.
Right. He made his fortune in America and all of his friends cheering him on are American, so blame Canada.
You’re not funny. Shut up.
With all their beady little eyes. And flapping heads so filled with lies.
Blame Canada! Shame on Canada for…
The smut we must cut
The trash we must bash
The laughter and fun must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!
his mother was on the Today show this week and was asked about all of this ‘negative’ behaviour and she side stepped it all just like the stage mom/SHOW ME THE MONEY that she is!
I really can’t look at his constipation face anymore…
Drugs, probably. And the devolution of Justin Bieber accelerates.
You know who I truly feel sorry for, though? Not Bieber. I feel for the man or woman who has to clean the restaurant after some drugged-up, jackass punk peed in that person’s cleaning water. They should make Bieber clean the place as punishment and sees how he likes it.
I was looking for something on twitter; I saw a post about him. IT had a shirtless picture of him with the caption: How can anyone be this perfect.
I just don’t see what any girl sees in him at all. And I hope someone told that restaurant what this piece of sh*t did. They could be shut down because of his silliness.
Exactly. I think people are assuming someone alerted the restaurant staff about what he did. But I seriously doubt that happened. I have a feeling some poor busboy used that mop & water to clean the restaurant that night. I want to know where it was so I can make sure I never step foot in it.
This is so disgusting, both for the action and for the fact that the people around him thought this was awesome. How does this kind of stupidity develop? And how soon do you think he will come out with a post on how he knows his purpose and blah blah naysayers ain’t gonna keep him down word vomit? Also, side note – his Roman numeral tattoo makes me twitch. If he was going for 1975, then he did it wrong.
This kid has got issues.
It’s world news on Fox, Drudge and TMZ.. he’s in big trouble.. gotta openly answer for his rude stupidity now.. Respect for law, decency, authority and even piss the humble worker? Deport him out of our country.. might work.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/07/10/justin-bieber-caught-on-tape-urinating-in-restaurant-mop-bucket-shouting-about/
I wonder if they can charge him for public indecency even though he wasn’t caught in the act?
Uh-oh, someone forgot the diaper change before putting him in his car seat. At least he’s on his way to being potty trained. Frankly I’m surprised, I would’ve pegged the Biebs as a tinkle sitter. Not enough junk for distance. At least he seems attempting to compensate for lack of something with his antics, but what do I know?
Talk about piss poor judgement, huh?
@Kiddo – “Talk about piss poor judgement, huh?”
Never was the statement more appropriate.
I was always under the impression that in order to be ‘potty trained’, one must learn to use the potty, not whatever random receptacle that happens to be nearby.
Next, it’s going to be one of his neighbor’s (the ones complaining about his rocketing up & down neighborhood streets) trash cans, or flowerpots.
I cleaned a restaurant at 4am every morning one summer so that I could afford to go on a semester abroad. If some jackass peed in my mop water, it would take everything in me not to grab the handgun behind the counter and shoot him in the foot. What a douche!
I would aim a little higher… to make sure he’d have trouble peeing in a bucket in the future. Although with Beieber, I’m sure the target would be very small, and I’m not that good a shot.
Unfortunately, it sounds like another teen star heading own the wrong path. I guess he’s following in Lindsay’s footsteps. I can say I honestly do not feel that bad for him, because from what I’ve heard, he’s just a spoiled little brat!
His mom will be on tv today on the View I think
It is gross….but I’ve known plenty of “boys” (males under 30) that would do exactly this. The peeing, not the Bill Clinton thing. Honestly, I am glad that smartphone weren’t a thing when I was 18-28.
Only me and him and my belt, in one room.His mother will be thanking me.Not in a FreakY,but more in an I’ll educate you, manner.
You should still put him in a collar… Then after his ‘education’, you should chain him to the ceiling fan & turn it on.
(*With a chain just long enough not to hurt him, of course. Though I imagine the ceiling fan thing would chafe like a MFer.)
OMG! LOL!
LMAO! Sounds like a good plan.
Disgusting. Revolting. Gross.
the picture with the water bottle– is he peeing in that too??? it seriously looks like he has a towel on his pants in order to cover his junk while he was peeing into a bottle.
he’s so gross. i won’t feel bad at all when his life completely implodes in front of all of us. he’s such an entitled little douchebag.
All I took away from this was:
a) Justin Bieber is a Level 5 Douche and needs to hurry up and go away.
b) As a female, that would be far too much work to pee in a bucket like that.
c) I worked at Starbucks, KFC, and Popeyes. I’d Captain Kirk flying kick his ass into the nearest wall, body guard be damned. I did not get paid enough to change baby diaper water.
d) I remember being in middle school and annoyed with Backstreet Boys/N*Sync/98 Degrees/LFO/Jordan Knight. Can I have those back, please?
Didn’t like any of those boy bands back in the day either, but now they seem so tame and innocent in comparison!
Give him a break potty-training is hard. Lol!
Guess he’s not paying his “friends” enough money to hang around.
Restaurant and hotel workers unite. Time us common folks “repay” Justin for his pee bucket antics. Wouldn’t eat any restaurant food or walk bare foot on any hotel floor for quite awhile Justin. You are not the only one who can prank a fool.
I don’t condone violence, but…I think he needs a beat down. Something, anything, to knock his ego down a bit. He’s so gross.
I read this earlier.. What kind of disgusting pig is he? Who does this type of behavior? His mom is on The View today clearly to defend his raunchy, nasty arse.
So disgusting.
Get this kid to a chiropractor! Does he ever stand up straight? It’s not like he’s going to towering over everybody…
Perfect. Put him on the Sex Offender list for public urination, then deport that little POS.
Lovely though it would be, to get him forcibly thrown out of this great land of ours. But… I have nothing against Canada… Wouldn’t this qualify as an act of war?
I say we deport him to an island surrounded by a barbed wire electric fence.
I truly believe we reap what we sow and can’t wait for the day this kid gets the punishment he so richly deserves. And I pray that punishment consists ot no one paying attention to him for any reason at all.
He’ll be the cause of his own demise. He’s spiraling and you don’t have a long career when you act like a bratty little diapered douche bag. I refer back to the Bon Jovi post. Spot on Mr Jovi, spot on.
white trash.
Little Justy needs some time out.
So he is male after all? His face keeps confusing me.
Indecent exposure?
Justin Reliever
What a POS
That’s incredibly low-class and an insult to the working-class person who has to clean the place.
That is what I find so upsetting about this. It’s bad enough this little shithead acts like the world is his and everyone else just lives in it. To intentionally piss in something that someone has to use for work, that’s even worse. It’s unbelievably vile and insulting.
I have never wanted to punch a celebrity so bad. This goes so far beyond exasperating–he angers me with his utter disregard for other people/animals. I only click on these posts to validate my anger, and stay up to date on his antics so I can let other parents know the kid deserves no hero worship whatsoever.
Can someone please go Fight Club on him and give him clam chowder full of spunk
I hate him even more now.
The worst part is how bad-ass he thinks he is. Listen to his friends scream “We the wild boyz. Wooo!” Yeah, you’re totally hard-core. You really showed that restaurant. Way to stick it to the man!
I agree. It’s sickening.
Yes, considering that he is a corporate product, he’s really showing what he thinks of the parents that pay the ticket prices for their kids to see this douchenozzle. Oh, and it was on Letterman that he discoursed about the Sixteenth Chapel
If I had worked there he would be getting a swirly in that mop bucket, no question.
Oh c’mon guys, look, his diaper is full.
There is NO excuses for this kind of behavior….None whats so ever…..He and his “Lil” friends needs their asses kicked up into that vast wasteland of what once was their brains…..He and his friends are menaces and bullies …know matter how much talent or money that he is suppose to have….
@hillbillyinthecorner – “He and his “Lil” friends needs their asses kicked up into that vast wasteland of what once was their brains…”
Seeing as what used to occupy said ‘vast wasteland’ was equivalent to what comes out of his ass, it may not make any difference. x_X (Aside from us enjoying the ass kicking.)
Would have loved it if the person who had been using that cleaning bucket came over and dumped it over this idiots head. He has no regard for anyone and someone needs to knock him off of his high horse already.
I think it’d be more of a ‘high giraffe. If he’s knocked off w/o a parachute, it’s going to be a long, immensely destructive way back to real life/brain function.
Oh wait! I get it! Remember how he wanted to date Kim Kardashian? He is just showing her what he can do!
@fangrrl – LMAO!! Brilliant. Best post of the day nomination!
OMG, you know what? I just realized how absolutely much I despise this little twerp when, after reading your comment, I thought to myself, “Kim deserves better than that.” LOL.
For some reason the title of the article automatically conjured up an image of him sitting down to pee in the bucket. Whatever, his music sucks and he will eventually be the new Aaron Carter.
God, I know I’m replying to every other comment in this thread (& it’s probably getting annoying to everyone, sorry!!) But I just couldn’t not respond to this.
Aaron Carter was THE first thought I had upon seeing those ridiculous selfies. He really does remind me of him a lot, even in facial expressions, sometimes.
Pic #2.
If your junk will fit in a water bottle, dude don’t advertise it.
Peeing in a bucket, what’ little man on – crack, meth, weed what?
This is a real little prick- his mother should have swallowed him!
And Selena went back to this idiot? Sooner or later her image is going to be tarnished due to her association with him.
Him peeing in that bucket just broadcasts what he feels for the public. All of us with less than him.
Send him back to Canada please. Or when he goes in space can he get left there? These young celebrities NEED to be the death of Hollywood and our glorifying of them all.
i dont know why but i keep expecting the universe to take charge and strike him with lightning
Oh HELL no. I would have lost my job right then and there. Whoever compared him to King Joffrey on GoT was spot on. Given the leeway he’d be doing worse shit as if what he’s pulling now isn’t grating enough….
Why is he always crouching???
it’s his poo stance.. seriously, I’ve only ever seen kids trying to take a poo stand that way.
Poor uneducated little kid. He’s headed for a major meltdown. He knows as much about Bill Clinton as he does about the Sistine Chapel which he called the “Sixteen Chappels” on Leno.
Justin Beiber whips out his package out of his diaper pants in public and is surrounded by men pointing and laughing…
Damn, I know there is a joke in there somewhere
He is only a celebrity to pre-pubescent girls. That’s it. He needs to get over himself.
He doesn’t realize that his “friends” are laughing at him, not with him. They’re only with him for the money. And he deserves friends like that.
goddamn, i wish someone could kick the shit out of him. and now some unsuspecting employee is going to mop the floor with a bucket of piss. just typing this makes me want to go hunt down that little punk.
Send his hump back ass back to Canada. This punk kid needs someone to bust his chops and I wish someone in that restaurant would of grabbed him and stuck his head down in that mob bucket after he pissed in it. This kid is puke and he will be singing in a slammer one of these days if we are lucky. He makes me sick! Sure glad I’m not his mother. I would hide my head in shame!
This little dweeb and his yes men-er, boys, reminds me of The Fifth Element.
What a tool this kid is! I’ve never used that term but I feel it really applies as it never has before.
What is this little prick, Cro-Magnon Man? Whoops, I mean boy!
Wish I could make him drink the water he just pissed in. That’s how angry this post has made me.
I merely disliked him before but now he is permanently on my sh*t list.
This toxic little dwarf needs to have the shit beat out of him.
+100
He played the United Center in Chicago a few days ago. He had his picture taken with the Stanley Cup in the Black Hawks dressing room. He had his picture taken standing on their logo. NO ONE STANDS ON THE CHIEF!!!
http://blogimages.thescore.com/nhl/files/2013/07/Bieber-logo.jpg
Is nothing sacred?
I saw that.
Even the PLAYERS don’t step on the logo.
so, now the entire hockey-fan nation of Chicago hates him, too.
when Demi Lovato trashes hotel rooms everybody thinks she’s awesome.
I’ve been replying to every other comment in this thread, & I really hope I haven’t gotten on anyone’s nerves doing so. (I’m sorry if I have, feel free to ignore me! xD)
There were just soo many comments I *had* to reply to.
Oh, Hakura, I’ve been looking for you all over…I just wanted to thank you for sharing your aunt and uncle’s experience in adoption. I was looking at an adoption site’s facebook page, and a few people were complaining that they made it sound so easy to adopt, while they were really nitpicky about who could adopt kids.
Hopefully by the time I can do it, it won’t be so hard to do so.
@Virgilia – Oh wow, you’re incredibly welcome! I just love having the chance to share their experiences, because regardless of all the frustration they went through, it worked out beyond their wildest dreams. They tried for their own for *so* long, so when the adoptions went through, It really was a blessing to all of us.
It’s so wonderful that you’re considering adoption! =) There can never be ‘too many’ loving families for children to find homes with. This is totally none of my business of course, but is adoption something you’ve always thought about doing? ^__^
Well, you certainly didn’t get on my nerves by doing it!!
Maybe they were cheering him on because he finally learned how to aim??
Can the place of business sue him for this? I sure hope they can. He needs consequences and soon.
What was that again about God putting him here on earth to help people?
Hmm. Forgot something.
http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/FFN_Bieber_Justin_FLYNETUK_030813_51032807.jpg
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/10/pictures-of-the-day-11th-march-2013_n_2848745.html#26_baby-justin-bieber
That’s better.
What a disrespectful little twat! He needs a good ass kicking!
My little one LOVES this douchebag. Her last birthday was a Justin Bieber one and she has his t-shirt. I have been gritting my teeth, but seeing what an utter and complete ass he is, I’m going to start forbidding him in the house. Though One Direction is starting to steal his audience anyway, and she’s one of them. Two words, Justin: LEIF GARRETT.
He is one nasty little punk.
Him and Kanye think they are all that. They are not.
He looks like he crapped his pants hahahahaha
I just realized in the first photo that Bieber’s holding his water bottle against his crotch. What’s he gonna do next? Pee in that and give it to one of his unsuspecting “BFFs for life”?