I barely know who Kelly Cutrone is. She’s a fashion publicist/insider-type who is one of the judges on America’s Next Top Model. Cutrone also seems like somewhat of a surly curmudeon, but then again, I don’t know anything about her. Recently, Bedhead covered an interview Cutrone did about her $1 million salary and how it barely paid her bills. Woe is Kelly. Anyway, Kelly Cutrone was asked what she thinks of Kanye West and Kim Kardashian and whether they are influential tastemakers. Her reaction is pretty funny.
Kanye West once said he’s as important to fashion as Apple founder Steve Jobs was to technology. But fashion maven Kelly Cutrone says not so fast, West.
“I don’t think there’s one person who really works in the fashion industry who gives a flying f— about Kanye West,” she tells Confidenti@l.
The veteran People’s Revolution publicist and “America’s Next Top Model” judge isn’t awed by his wife, Kim Kardashian, either. Cutrone balked at the suggestion that the Givenchy-worshipping pair is one of the most influential couples in the clothing business.
“I think they have no influence in the fashion world whatsoever,” she said. “I mean, most people who watch the Kardashians’ (reality show) can’t afford Givenchy. I don’t mean to be mean,” she said. “Are (counterfeiters) on Canal St. benefiting from it? Probably, but that’s not the fashion world.”
Cutrone said it doesn’t take a genius to rock Givenchy, noting it’s a long-established brand that Audrey Hepburn wore in 1961.
“There’s a movie called ‘Breakfast at Tiffany’s.’ Givenchy is a good brand, but is it cutting edge? No,” she said. “It’s a gazillion-year-old luxury brand from Europe.”
Cutrone recognizes the duo’s cultural impact, but that’s not the fashion world — never mind that Kim K. controversially made the cover of Vogue’s American edition this year.
“Have Kim and Kanye had an impact on pop culture? Absolutely. Do I think that (Vogue editor-at-large) Hamish Bowles wakes up in the morning, calls (former Vogue editor-at-large) Andre Leon Talley and says, ‘Did you see those pants that Kanye was rocking on ‘SNL’?’ No.”
Cutrone, whose “Top Model” show returns on the CW on Sept. 18, added: “The truth of the matter is that Kim Kardashian is not doing anything fresh in fashion, either. She’s not getting into the nitty-gritty, super avant-garde players. She’s not even wearing ( Vivienne ) Westwood yet.”
There’s a ton of Goop-ish snobbery about peasants like Kanye and Kim from Cutrone, but I actually think she made her point well, moreso about Kim than Kanye. I think Kanye is somewhat respected by some in the fashion world (Anna Wintour, Riccardo Tisci, Carine Roitfeld) and Kanye can spark some trends too. Granted, I haven’t seen a lot of men in leather jogging pants, but Kanye’s worked some looks ahead of fashion curves. But Cutrone’s criticism of Kim in particular – that anyone can wear Givenchy and “wearing Givenchy” does not make one groundbreaking… well, that’s a good point.
Oh, and here’s something gross… you know that zebra-print Balmain skirt Kim wore to the Teen Choice Awards? There are some reports that the skirt wasn’t zebra-print, that it was actually zebra skin. God, I hope not.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet, Vogue.
She is annoying but she tells it like it is. She was that direct when she was on the City as well.
Agreed, she is terrifying but she doesn’t BS at all – I respect her opinion when it comes to fashion (which I neither know or care a lot about) and I think she’s right on the money about Kanye.
+1 Don’t like her much either but she didn’t lie here.
She was unintentionally hilarious on The City. The “models not eating at a party” comment resulting in one of the skinniest looking models I’ve ever seen spending the rest of the episode saying how much she eats (without actually eating anything on camera) was brilliant.
exactly. That was the only reality show I did watch basically because it was in NY and I missed it so much.
I have no problem with her. The last statement she made was ridiculous but within in context I got it- re income. In this case she is completely correct, no one gives a shit. They are non entities in the fashion world, the plane they exist on is different entirely. Slow clap to Kelly cutrone, I hope more people start openly pointing out their value instead of patting them on the head.
what she says is pretty obvious.
She’s the type where if she have you a compliment, believe I, because she’d never blow smoke. She’s tell you if you were effing stupid, if she thought you were. I love that.
Snaps for Kelly Cutrone. Finally, someone expressed not an opinion, but an observation!
The only taste the Wests have is in their mouth! It certainly isn’t in fashion.
Either one of them.
I’m not in high fashion, but isn’t a requirement if you are a sighted person.
What’s weird is so many people like her who judge fashion are so unattractive and dress so badly!
They either make no effort at all or they’re like Kelly Osborne and try so hard but just don’t look good.
Kelly’s book ‘If you have to cry, go outside’ is pretty hilarious.
I didn’t know anyone looked at Kimye to be anything other than a spectacle.
They are a spectacle. But while I don’t think Kim has any fashion appeal, Kanye does. And for all the flack he gets for leather jogging pants…. We’ve seen them. Everywhere. On celebs, on peasants in the city. He just SPOKE about leather jogging pants in an interview and it turned up everywhere in the coming months. Sweat pants now are not the sweatpants ur mom wore in the 80’s. Now they look more tailored and with a cuff. That’s totally because he got ppl thinking about making the simple sweatpants nicer. His Nike offerings sold out and the resell markup is over 1000%. He’s got crazy influence in fashion, just not the highbrow kind. Which is what he’s after. I think he’s trying not to be another Cam’ron, who is the sole reason pink in high end menswear blew up in the Aughts, but got no recognition or compensation for it. I wish Kanye would let his work speak for itself while having a better business acumen than Cam.
This reminds me of a guy I knew in college who literally owned what he called “dress sweats”. And that is what he would wear to the nice bars.
@Francesca, freakin’ hilarious, made me snort.
I don’t think he has that much influence. Aside from Bieber and his ilk, I’m not seeing men roaming the streets in leather sweatpants (and I live in the 4th largest city in North America). When I see the studded face mask make an appearance, I might revise my appearance. I think the sweatpants redo is a result of urban market trends – not driven by Kanye alone – and also the result of there being no new ideas in fashion, just remakes. It’s just another iteration of casual wear being more mainstream now than dressier clothing.
And I’m hopeful it was just a zebra print, rather than skin ….
Pandy- that’s exactly what I’m saying: I think he does influence “urban market” trends tremendously. Those urban markets in turn have worldwide appeal. Kilts and ski masks didn’t take (even though I saw it in club lines in NYC), but crazy glasses, monotone red sneakers, leather sweats (and it’s variant lessers), backpacker and sneaker head style did to varying degrees. Nike just took his Red October idea for the KD’s and sold out everywhere this past wkend. The problem I have with Kanye and his tantrums is this: he’s got everything he’s wanted, but sees it as not enough. So many young people and, more specifically, young black professional people-that urban market again- check Kanye for his style and his music. For a decade now. But that’s not enough to him. He seeks the validation of, not just white people, but wealthy white people. The hiphop community loves Kanye and put him where he is- on the genius fashion/music tastemaker level- but he condescendingly treats it like it’s not enough all while taking the credit of their compliments and screaming for other to acknowledge him the same way. He could be a billionaire if he sticks to his audience and their dollars, but this grovelling for acceptance from those outside of it is lowering his stock.
Sorry for the essay 🙂
I don’t think he invented leather sweatpants by any means. If you are seeing them in the street in one season, typically that means they were designed a year before. He spoke out about them AFTER they were being produced by other lines.
The trend for higher quality casual wear was not started by Kanye. The overall trend for healthy living, and the resulting effect of people wearing lululemon yoga pants as casual wear, along with the proportional trend of leggings/skinny jeans on bottom with volume on top, is far greater impact on current trends than Kanye. Fashion is a cycle, and this happened in the 80s, it was bound to happen again as people became nostalgic for that era.
MCraw – i think he’s got a very childish attitude and, in a way, a childish brain. And with his ego, there is not much hope for him to grow. I dont know much about him, but he seems like a person who needs some parental figure in his life, someone who could tell him the truth and set him straight from time to time, but without evoking his childish aggression. U say he could be a billionaire – i say he could be a sane person, which I wish him and which is not likely anytime soon.
Um, I never said he invented it. I said that after he spoke about it, suddenly it was everywhere in hiphop type stores. High end brands dictate the trends years before they land, yes. But that’s not always how it works in the hood, quite frankly. Popular and unpopular styles become available almost instantly in niche markets. When he mentioned it, within weeks, it was in stores that directly cater to his audience. Those stores don’t follow normal style paths. Maybe it was a coincidence. But even if u take that mark out, there’s still the fact that his shoes sell out in hours to this day. If that’s not *some* level of influence, idk what is.
Francesca, “dress sweats” made me laugh.
McGraw, I guess I gathered that you thought it originated from him since you said that after he spoke about it, they were everywhere. Sorry I misunderstood.
Going back to my comment, in order for those pants to be everywhere in hip hop stores, they had to be designed, made and ordered long before that. The timeline doesn’t work to think that he spoke about it, therefore stores put it on their shelves. They might have sold more once they got there because of his comments, but I don’t see him as being the reason they were in the stores.
I think he does have some level of influence in some areas, but not enough that he is spurring what gets made on a bigger level.
He has zero influence in fashion. I don’t care how many idiots wear his leather sweat pants. He has horrible taste and dresses like a slob. He is doing nothing innovative. He “styles” Kim and she looks atrocious, worse than ever. Selling clothes to sheep is not the same thing as having an impact on fashion.
Though I don’t really fancy her, I appreciate her insights as a fashion insider. It’s interesting but not baseless bitchiness.
It clearly isn’t zebra skin from that photo – come on! It looks knitted!
Spanx now comes in animal print! 🙂
Whoa!! Good one!
Are zebras endangered? If not, what’s so much worse about zebra than cow or horse skin?
^THIS. I feel the same way when people who eat meat freak out about people wearing fur. Factory farm animals (which comprises pretty much the entire meat and poultry industry) suffer just as much as animals being turned to fur, same with leather.
Leather comes from the cattle slaughtered for meat. Same with pigskin. I would imagine sheepskin does too but I’m not as familiar with that side of the industry. So at least those animals are not ONLY being slaughtered for their hide.
Not that I agree with factory farming, it’s awful and I buy my meat (and other animal products) local, but I can get behind the “use the whole animal” mentality FAR more than I can “Hey, this thing has sweet fur but the rest of it can just be thrown in a pile.” I hate fur and won’t wear/use the hide of anything I wouldn’t eat. I understand that not everyone feels this way.
not to mention…. I had a friend that owned a mink farm in highschool. Its a horrible thing to experience. Animals that are bred for fur, and living in those conditions. or have you seen how they skin animals alive in Asia for the fur?
People will eat meat, and using the whole animal is a lot more acceptable than a needles abuse for fashion.
It would have to be zebra print, a zebra’s butt wouldn’t be big enough to make a skirt for Kim.
hah. got a nice little laugh outta that one!
Serious question. Do any of these celebrities have a say in what they wear to award shows, etc? Or are they just trolling the public?
I’ve often wondered that myself. I mean, when do they say, “Yeah, I like that dress” or “Hell no! I’m not wearing that”. They must have some kind of say, right?
I think they have a say. They have designers dying to get their clothes on them for the publicity and they usually have a stylist to help them put a look together.
Of course they do, unless they have a contract to wear a certain brand they’re free to wear what they want, obviously.
KK can’t help but flash her nethers, can she? That zebra print (PLEASE be faux) even has an in-built camel-toe pattern, just in case we’ve forgotten where her hoo-ha is.
Charlotte – love it!
Ya. The minute the Kardashians start wearing a designer is the minute I switch to someone new. Ruined Celine and Chanel for me, luckily I have not seen them sporting Burberry, Missoni or Dior yet. But if I’m wrong please everyone don’t correct me! Lol
Exactly. It all looks like Walmart on Kimye.
Oh no, now you can’t wear anything
Dior is ruined for you, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2545123/Kim-Kardashian-cuts-Dior-frock-dress-two-make-crop-skirt-TV-appearance.html
Missoni RUINED, http://www.fashionbase.com/4f666859300449afa1aa73c1/kim-kardashian-wearing-chanel-and-missoni
And finally, Burberry ruined for you, http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/18/kim-kardashian-2014-france-airport_n_5507659.html
Sorry, I couldn’t let you dare to wear these ruined brand. Obviously you have impeccable taste.
She does seem surly, but I’m happy with anyone who calls them on their crap.
Yeah she’s right. I don’t look at them and see fashion gurus. Just a hot mess.
Good points, all of them.
Kanye knows this too. That’s why he has intermittent fits of hysteria and tantrums about the fashion industry.
One more thing: That is some seriously bad attire that Cutrone is wearing. So she judges fashion, but subscribes to the no-style approach. I noticed this with Michael Kors as well. Same black uniform.
But but she’s on a budget! Who can afford an entire wardrobe on just 1 mill?
True, I stand corrected, lol.
No one has ever claimed the fashion industry is full of beautiful, fashionable people. As we all know elves are behind clothing and they’re not all “Lord of the Rings” beautiful.
it’s funny about the TCA speech bubble placements behind her. it’s as though: her knee thinks. her shoulder thinks. the air around her thinks…. except…
anyhow.
She’s right on the money. Kim and her family have always been trash, but Kanye was at least once respected for his musical talent. Somewhere between hooking up with the Kardashians and his last rediculous rant, he’s ruined his own brand. I can’t think of anyone in any industry that would take these two seriously.
+ a million. The kardashian/jenners are trash with money, but they are trash through and through. And Kanye has made a total joke of himself over the last few years.
+ a trillion! I had much respect for Kanye when he first came out, he was bringing a different flavor to hip-hop. I don’t know if it was his mother’s death, fame going to his head, or a combination of both, but he has really lost it and become a joke! He might as well be called Kanye Kardashian cause that’s what he has become, sadly. He rants and raves against the paparazzi but married into the biggest fame-whore family in the world, who are actually in cahoots with those “evil” paps!
I always respect a person who tells it like it is without all the candy coating crap. Good for one person who has had the guts to call out Kanye on some of his b.s. and now if there were others who would do the same maybe the farce could stop that these two are the biggest movers and shakers in the world. Because they simply are not. Good for her.
I’m torn. I like that someone from the fashion industry is telling Kimye no, you’re not all that. But wow, she’s a snob. It’s hard to get behind her.
Um, yeah. And she’s one ugly son of a gun, and look at what she’s wearing. She reminds me of Simon Cowell, another somberly-dressed whiner who never had anything nice to say about anyone, the more famous and likely to get his name in the press by foul-mouthed association, the better. I would be more impressed by a legit fashion insider’s opinion on Kanye’s line. Hearing this from somebody who does tacky reality TV, writes silly books and who is basically on the famewhoring level of those that they criticize is really not that moving.
What has her looks got to do with anything? Also she does not say they are unimportant. She says they have had an impact on popular culture but not on high fashion. There is a difference.
If you discount her worth for being a reality TV famewhore, you therefore discount Kimye’s worth as well. Her claims must be as valid as Kanye’s claims to be a fashion icon, they are both reality TV famewhores.
@Kat
What do her looks have to do with anything? Oh my god, she’s in the *fashion industry* and smacktalking other famehos for their level of unimportance and *sartorial ability.* Shouldn’t you wake up and, well, apply some serious effort into not looking that ohmygod horrific if this kind of pettiness is your ticket to mass market success?
@Ragnar
Pretty much. My point was that her with her mouth open pontificating about these two is a pot -meet-kettle situation, not some avant-garde fashion genius from on high looking down upon the tackier and more fameho-ey and rendering a non- hypocritical opinion.
Yeah … I don’t know either. The way she throws these “important” names around … God. The fashion world is really very similar to Kimye as in they all think they get to decide what style and good taste look like and anyone who disagrees simply doesn’t realize the genius that is either of them. Dude, I have bills to pay and sick family members to worry about. NONE of you matter all that much.
She’s saying someone like Daphne Guinness matters in fashion, but these two don’t. True, but beats me why any normal people care about Daphne and the esoteric world of fashion. The fashion world didn’t eat Kanye and Kim. They ate the fashion world.
Daphne Guinness supports innovative designers whose designs are in every single person’s wardrobe even if filtered version.
Kimye just want to be seen in the most expensive, blingtastic fashion. And it’s telling that they gravitate to the expensive fashion rather than the innovative designers. The ones who come up with new ideas or at the very leat try.
Givenchy hasn’t been innovative since Andrey Hepburn and her little black Givenchy dress looked everyday wear chic instead of mourning only chic.
An example of a designer Daphne has championed is McQueen and if you don’t have low waisted trousers/jeans, then I guess his influence passed you by!!
LAK: brava!
Perfect explanation of her significance. Anyone with dosh can commission a Givenchy frock ( for example) but few actually have an eye for budding genius among unknowns.
Daphne will never be on the cover of Vogue. They’re running a business here. She will be mentioned in a fashion historian’s book and have a picture buried in the pages of Vogue. The fashion world knows where she belongs. If people associate fashion with Kanye and Kim, it’s the fashion world’s own fault.
Do you know nothing about fashion? Am I the only one who has watched the bitchfest of Project Runway? It’s an industry full of talented people, most of them hungry, bitchy and jealous. Not for the faint of heart.
I do not think she is snubbish or Goopish, fashion world IS like that.
And she is totally right: Kanye thinks to be a total genious for the jogging leather pants ?? Bitch please you are not Armani, Ferré , Yves Saint Laurent etc. etc. you had an idea, an awful one, and you think to be Karl Lagerfeld.
Rocking an oufit doesn’t mean doing fashion history, there are tons of fashion bloggers who dress better than Kim and Kanye put together.
I am glad someone said something reasonable about them.
And now We could start the countdown for Kanye newest rant.
@Eleanor exactly I have a lot of friends in NY/Paris in that world and PR and it is like that.
Kanye is influential in menswear… his APC line was a major event twice.
Giorgio Armani has been influential for almost 40 years.
There are lots of fashion houses who want to work with Kanye but the problem is, he drives them crazy with his “perfection phobia”, he is very anal retentive about his products (music or fashion).
Kanye is his own worse enemy, not this is where Kim’s job comes in………………..
All the great designers are perfectionist, but being a perfectionist does not necessary imply to be impossible to work with: and if no one wants to work with you it means, at the end of the day, they can find someone else who can replace you because you’re not worth their money. Kanye does not accept criticism he thinks he is the genious we were all waiting for. He could be a talented musician, but probably he does not enough talent for fashion if he had people would work with him no matter what.
But he is not John Galliano.
I can see the University of Texas longhorn logo in that skirt. That’s awful.
So can I!
That isn’t fashion, that’s a troll who thinks it fashion. Anything for attention.
Maybe not in the fashion world as in high-fashion designers but for sure with street wear designers.
Kanye and Kim have definitely influenced who teenagers, young adults and adults dress.. You just have to walk down the streets in NYC to see how much influence Kanye has had with clothes.
Kim and Kanye’s outfits are mimicked so often, a lot of the time they are cheaper versions but I do see a lot of people going out and buying exact replicas..
It seems like a lot of the time people’s dislike for someone influences their ability to see the reality of a situation.
I can’t really agree with Kelly here. She has always seemed a bit out of touch tbh.
No offense, but I don’t know which NYC you are living in. I never see women here dressed like Kim. They don’t wear skin-tight, I can’t move clothes, and they don’t have their t!ts hanging out everywhere they go. And they certainly do not wear those uber-tacky, ankle-strangling high heeled sandals that she is always sporting. Skinny jeans were around long, long before she stuffed herself into them, and her shirts are always pretty standard issue, albeit unbuttoned at least halfway, which no New Yorker does. She does follow fashion, I’ll give her that, but New Yorkers know better than to wear clothes that do not flatter just because they are trending.
As for the men, there may be guys that look like Kayne, but real fashion mavens are so much better pulled together – he always looks vaguely dirty and sloppy.
I’m pretty sure I said Kanye’s influence in NYC….. So I don’t know why you have this big long thing on Kim.
I’m not really sure where you’re seeing Kanye looking dirty and sloppy etc LOL
it’s not even just NYC anyway that Kanye’s really influenced i just choose the city that is pretty much the centre for street wear designers..
@Anns
I’m from NYC too please tell me what influence Kanye has had on NYC or any other city.
I agree Josephine, there are some women here in California that are in to Kim’s sausage casing look but nobody anywhere sports anything from Kanye. Kanye does not have a distinctive style to emulate. He dresses like a lot of other guys, nothing special. Leather jogging pants are a bad idea, I have never seen anyone wearing them.
@ Candy Love… Have you not walked around Brooklyn, Harlem or the Bronx before? and the club scene in Manhattan is filled with men trying to look like Kanye, ASAP Mob, Joey Badass.. You can go to Chicago, London, Toronto, LA, Miami, Atlanta or any other major city to see his influence. Just because you don’t like him doesn’t mean he hasn’t impacted men’s fashion. and yeah he looks like everyone else because they’ve tried to copy him……. LOL
Actually I was amazed that Kanye designed a white T-Shirt with an emblem for $200 each and it sold out immediately, with back order requests…. His Yeesus brand sells well also.
Kanye is perhaps not so concerned about sales, he wants to be honored as a great designer, in Paris.
And yet, Kanye is so desperate for the approval of these people.
Agree, Kim dresses for overt sexuality and usually comes off as cheap and tacky. Not sure she will ever understand that balance.
She dresses cheap and tacky because she IS cheap and tacky.
Dita Von Teese(sp) gets it. She consistently radiates sensuality.
Please say that isn’t really zebra skin. So very sad if true. I don’t like to see zebras attacked by hyenas, and that is the circle of life. But to see them preyed upon by Kardashians would be too much for my soft heart to take.
It is a printed, stretch knit skirt.
So many thanks, eliza.
Kelly Cutrone has always been a blunt bitch. I have never loved her more than I do right now.
I have always liked her as well. Her show on Bravo was oddly entertaining in a boring reality tv sort of way. I like that she is all black and basic. She has a sharp mind and that is always very attractive.
Yeah, she does not sugarcoat anything! I first saw her on The Hills, back in the day. She was not on there to be nice. She was there to work and make Lauren work. And guess what, Lauren actually works for a living now, unlike most of the other people from The Hills.
I’d never heard of her before now but I think I already love her too. She’s not “mean/catty bitchy,” she’s “I know what I’m talking about and have a billion years in this business so shut up and listen, if you’re smart you’ll learn something,” bitchy. There’s a big difference. She wasn’t even as snotty about Kim’s wardrobe choices as she could have been.
Yeah, I agree, she’s a tough lady with a sharp tongue but she knows her stuff.
When you enlarge the photo it looks like zebra courderoy. Is courderoy making a comeback?(side eye roll).
Hubert de Givenchy is not rolling over in his grave, as he is still alive and well at eighty-seven 🙂
Thank you for pointing that out
Good for her and I’m so excited to hear Kanye’s psychotic, cracked out man-baby response!
I love that wedding cover because it’s SOOO Kim – girl has her eyes on the prize, no pretending to be in love she is finally on the cover!!
I have a hard time with this woman because she totally ruined ANTM for me, but she makes sense here. For once. Laughing hard at the name dropping though. Hahahahahaha. This irrelevant bitch.
She looks like Sara Gilbert.
Oldest publicity stunt in the book: Find a famous person who is not revered like a saint and trash them as hard as you can….That’s the way to get noticed in print.
Start a fashion war/rap war/Country&Western war and Tabloids will gobble it up….Say something nice and you get ignored.
Then you have foolish people swallowing this fake war and commenting their agreement and disagreement…It’s how to manipulate people class 101.
People need to be able to recognize patterns and know when they are getting jerked around like puppet-fools.
I don’t think she was really looking to get publicity. Cutrone is one of the most unlikeable, unpleasant people in the fashion world, but that doesn’t make her wrong. She is dead on in her statements. Kim is…void. Kanye is delusional.
@ Kri
Sorry I don’t get it, the delusion part. – As a business minded person I am confused here.
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Kanye tried to start his own brand in Paris and it failed (because the industry is a closed industry), so instead of sneaking away in defeat he is trying to appropriate a known and established brand (Givenchy) when he can use that as a launching pad for his fashion desires….What’s delusional about that? Isn’t that how business people succeed and get rich?
I am just not the sharpest pencil in the box so I don’t get, why it’s delusional to try to win money fame and honor.
There’s no “money, fame and honor” to be won by trying to force your way into high fashion because your pride is hurt. If Kanye wasn’t an overgrown child he would recognize he doesn’t need “high fashion” to validate him. If he had anything to offer fashion, which he doesn’t, his natural talent would succeed on it’s own merit.
I am not say that it’s not fun to watch this war thing, just that we need to recognize that it’s the 5th Avenue (Manhattan) advertising people who are deciding who we love and who we hate, and who has a war against who, and when the war ends in a collaboration that we well pay money to see.
We ARE one of the most jerked around consumer nation in the world, and we just LOVE IT!
@Gypsy-he is delusional because he thinks he has the talent to be a designer. And if you think he is that talented, then that is your opinion and I respect your view. If I was wealthy and could afford to dress from any design house I wished, I can promise you that it would not be anything from Kanye. FFS, look at how his wife looks. I wasn’t saying it was delusional for a person to “win money, fame or honor”. Those are all great goals to have. But Kanye already has fame and money. I just don’t see his design talent. And honor….well.just look at his recent statements made in court. He thinks he’s better than everyone, and that includes you, too. I just do not think highly of him at all.
This is not a war. If 5th avenue advertising executives are wasting their time with this nonsense they should be fired. I decide who I love or hate. I have been pressured by enough advertising throughout my life to know well enough when I’m being manipulated. People don’t like Kanye because he repeatedly acts like an ass, and people don’t like his “fashion” because it’s not cutting edge or informed or influential or meaningful. I’m sorry if that’s hard to accept but wanting to be fashionable is not the same thing as being fashionable.
She reminds me of Simon Cowell; there’s a confidence to her because she knows what she’s talking about. The Canal Street remarks were classic. And please tell me, please, PLEASE, that Kim is not wearing zebra skin. Though I think she would. She’d wear a baby’s head jacket if she thought it was high fashion.
Kanye should have married Kendall. She has the body to play dress up with. Kim has to stop shoving herself into clothes that are too small.
::: sounds of a primal scream come Hidden Hills, California, along with the sounds of a laptop being thrown out of a window and smashing to the ground :::
LOL!
I’ll take it a step further and say that no one on planet Earth gives a fuck about these two.
I don’t care for Kanye cause of his ignorant behavior. This dude is no longer humbled in the least bit. It’s disgusting. Dude thinks he has some sort of edge on fashion, not so. Yeah, his clothes sale out, but that doesn’t make him an innovator of sorts at all.
As far as designer clothes go, I don’t see why any minority would wear such brands as COCO Chanel, or a lot of other fashion designers that have had a very bad past with, specifically, black people. I mean, I wouldn’t be caught dead wearing COCO Chanel. Why would you financially support a corporation whose founder hated your kind? To COCO Chanel, minorities were something to be exterminated and not a human being. It’s freaking pathetic. I don’t give a crap how much the “fashionable design” is worth. It’s like, stop following the trend and use your own mind people.
L’Oreal was built with the nazis’ money as well. But it would be impossible to avoid such a brand that owns way too many brands (Maybelline, Garnier, Lancome, etc).
It’s possible to use other brands, such as, Bronner Brothers, Taliah Waajid, Nubian Heritage, Carol’s Daughter. there are many products out there that one can find even though the search may be some what challenging. No, all products can’t be avoided but some unnecessary products that require exorbitant amounts of money from minorities to use like designer labels can very well be avoided. I, for one will never buy into Kanye’s brand of clothing because I feel that he is racist towards whites.
Is it right to visit the sins of the father on the sons? Should Chanel and L’Oreal have swastikas painted on them? It is well and good to remember and honor the past but it is also important that room is left for rehabilitation, reform and rebuilding. We must all live with the sins of the past, and hopefully learn from them and move forward to a better tomorrow. What hope for a better tomorrow is there if we focus only on the sins of people long dead? Do you really believe the current employees should be punished for a past they had no control over?
Leaflet: are you aware that many of the world’s advances are on the backs of distasteful past??!!
More medical advances were made by nazis experimenting on people in their camps (Europe AND Africa) so are you going to boycott medicine?
@LAK,
You’re not understanding me properly. Those things that can be avoided SHOULD be. As I stated above, those unnecessary products. Key words ‘unnecessary products’, which are very expensive such as designer clothing that minorities wear just to be associated with the “in crowd” should not be so popular amongst minorities who are wealthy and should not be desired by those minorities whom are not wealthy. I would consider medicinal advances as a NECESSITY, wouldn’t you? I would consider designer clothing as a want. Therefore , I would not be caught dead in anything of COCO Chanel’s.
“Fruits of the same tree”
This kind of reminds me of those people who are against Stem Cells research but as soon as their child becomes sick they are demanding that the latest Stem Cells medicine be used to cure them and their children.
1. Germany developed Jet Engines during WW2 for use against the Allies — Do we ban air travel now?
2. X-Ray was developed and improved by using it on Jewish prisoners — Do we ban X-ray machines now?
3. Nuclear/Atomic technology was developed by the Germans in early stages, pre the Manhattan project and the same German scientists were brought to the USA to complete it — Do we ban Nuclear plants used for electricity?
4. Rockets that we use for travel to the moon/space station/mars are German WW2 made inventions — Do we ban them?
I could go on and on, and on…………………..
@Gypsy,
Instead of addressing the extraordinary list of fallacies that you created that make up a baseless point, I will suggest that you read my comments in their entirety, so that you can see where you have erred.
@Leaflet
Fallacies ??????? – Have you ever read a book? I will invite you to fact check these things, and while you are at it check that a German is historically in competition for who invented the first gasoline automobile, the American inventor was a year behind.
Please, please check my facts, Wiki/any history books on the sciences….Fallacies? I am so disappointed in you.
The Germans have done more for the advancement of science than any other nation on this planet.
@ Gypsy,
I’m not disappointed in me. Neither do I need to read a book. My reply to you was not in regards to who invented what. The list is a fallacy because you state that because I believe that minorities shouldn’t financially support and wear the products of a designer, whose racism was so extreme till the point where she eventually attempted to aide in the demise of certain groups of humans, that the government should ban such products created by, essentially, hate groups that the products should be banned by government altogether. Plainly speaking, you argue the point that if minorities stopped using or supporting non-essential products then the government should stop the use of essential products in medicine and space and everywhere else. That in itself makes your list a fallacy because the comparison is not proper. You my dear should read up on how to make a proper argument. Your comments are very short sighted and therefore baseless. Unfortunately, I am disappointed in you. My statements have been clearly written. Yet, you didn’t read them carefully. 🙂
@ Gypsy,
It was easy to discard your list as a fallacy. Your list was irrelevant to the example and overall point that I made, which made your list, in itself, a fallacy to my overall point. Your list was an extreme course of actions that was absolutely nonsensical and very short sighted. The overall point you made was baseless because of what I just described. You didn’t read my initial or follow up comments in totality. You just read LAK’s comment and based yours off hers. I have to say, I have to I’m disappointed because you usually aren’t offbeat. 🙂
@ Bob Loblaw,
Most of those Designers rarely use minority models TODAY, please. If they really have truly changed then they should reflect that in the way they market their products. Put swastikas on their products? You’re reaching. No need to go to drastic measures about the way these folks market their products as an irrelevant counter argument. Please stop the madness and see my comment for what it is and not what you’ve morphed it in to. I stand by what I said.
I know this is bitchy, but it seems like the “tastemakers” and “insiders” in the fashion industry are usually not that nice-looking. Does any remember Diana Vreeland? She looked like someone from Alice in Wonderland. I often wonder if she ever said “off with their heads!”
It’s kind of the same with hairdressers. Seen so many whose own hair looks a mess, but create gorgeous styles for their clients.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s zebra, after all pony skin is used for shoes and other items. Gross. Love how the stripes are horizontal at the top of the skirt for maximum hip and crotch widening. I now love Kelly Cutrone.
Reading that was as refreshing as a dip in a spring fed mountain pool.
That is NOT zebra skin. It’s a knitted fabric.
Give this lady a noble prize for truth-telling, ha! The only ones they are influencing are (a few) of the regular joes/joans who run down to that Chinese knock-off store in the strip mall asking if they have any of those leather jogging pants that Kanye had on! I haven’t seen anyone with those pants nor anyone asking about something KK had on.
I couldn’t agree more with her about Kimye. She certainly told it like it is about those two fools, and I love it!!!!
Good for her! I’m glad that there is somebody out there in the fashion world, no less tell it straight about this egotistical to the max couple! Her comments need to be put up on all social media sites pronto!
Kelly was on KUWTK in season one I believe. Kim and her sisters were in Mexico doing a photoshoot for Kelly’s bathing suit line. Kim and her sisters complained the whole time and Kelly was not having it. She gave them attitude and they rightly deserved it !
Meanwhile… PMK is wondering how to spin this into a storyline to keep Kimye in the press.
True fashion influence comes from “once in a lifetime” moments that awes, surprises and emotionally affects us. Jackie O in that pink Chanel suit; Von Furstenberg’s wrap dress; American Gigolo, featuring a little known Giorgio Armani; McQueen’s “bumsters” and the rise of low-rise jeans. Galliano and the newspaper dress. Fashion is, at most times, thought-provoking. Trends are what the kids are wearing…Kim and Kanye are trends but I don’t believe the leather sweat pants will be iconic 10/20/30 years from now. However, kudos to them for taking advantage of every opportunity and believing if something is said repeatedly, eventually people will believe it.