Jennifer Garner source: ‘her kids may have to deal with this for the rest of their lives’

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As you know if you’ve been keeping up with this sad, cliched saga, Ben Affleck is paying for his lover, his children’s former nanny, to stay at the Hotel Bel Air with her friends. (Either he’s footing the bill or he gave her enough money to do this, it’s unclear. Sources close to him tell US he’s “absolutely not paying” for her to stay there.) It’s thought that the nanny, Christine Ouzounian, is threatening a lawsuit against Jennifer Garner for wrongful termination. There are also rumors that Ouzounian may have intimate photos of Affleck and/or that she has damning information about him. She’s likely holding something over his head as she’s giving lame sourced quotes to the press while posing for bikini photos. There’s another rumor that Ouzounian has been trying to get pregnant by Affleck. I just hope that’s either untrue or she hasn’t been successful. Oh and The NY Daily News has a bunch of quotes about how awesome she is and how she thinks Ben is going to marry her. Good luck with that.

The last we heard from Ben’s side, his defense was laughably that his wife had “nitpicked” him and made him feel like he was an inadequate husband. Considering that he was sleeping with randoms, drinking and gambling heavily and spending large chunks of time away from home, he was inadequate. Ben is currently in Georgia at his 16 million, two-mansion, 50 acre compound on an exclusive island where he just threw a party for 35 people, catered by a local barbecue joint.

Yesterday we covered those updates, along with the details from the People story chronicling Jennifer Garner’s heartbreak. Today we’ll go over some of the new information from US Magazine’s cover story about how Jennifer found out about the affair and is fighting back. I found US’s coverage to be the most realistic in that it brings home what a betrayal this was by Affleck, not just to his wife but to his three kids too. Sleeping with the nanny is one thing, but these people are massively famous. All of this is going to be public knowledge indefinitely. Here are the details from US’s print edition (the header titles are mine):

Garner isn’t letting Affleck stay in the guest house
“With everything that’s happened, she’s no longer pursuing that.”

Garner is worried that the kids will be affected
“The idea that her kids may have to deal with this for the rest of their lives is something she is having a lot of trouble with.”

To Garner, his actions are inexcusable. Says a source: “Her level of anger has skyrocketed.”

How Garner got wise to the cheating
She’d heard rumblings that while she was in and out of town filming her comedy Nine Lives in Montreal in June, her estranged husband and the babysitter were planning outings together without the kids. “She didn’t know anything was going on,” says the close insider, “but she suspected it.”

Ouzounian was one of two nannies invited to the Bahamas
Despite her doubts, she invited Ouzounian on the family’s late-June trip to the Bahamas… Garner invited Ouzounian to tag along with another nanny “because one of her sisters lives there… Jen said ‘You can work and see your sister at the same time.’”

Ouzounian was alone with Affleck for five days in the Bahamas
But Ouzounian was mostly interested in seeing Affleck. While she and the other nanny flew with the actor and his kids to the family’s private home… Garner was tied up with filming in Montreal – and an unplanned trip to Boston to visit her ailing mother, Patricia, in the hospital.

Garner came to the Bahamas, then sent Ouzounian home for being emotional
When Garner finally arrived June 25 she sensed something was off. “Christine was acting emotional,” says the close insider. She told Garner she was struggling with a recent split from her ex-fiance, who lives in the Bahamas… “Jen said, ‘You can’t be around my kids like this. Please go home.’”

Ouzounian went back with Affleck but stayed in Vegas with him
A gracious Affleck offered to give her a lift on his private jet the next day. The plan… was for gambling buff Affleck to fly to Las Vegas for a charity poker tournament and Ouzounian to continue on to LA, but the plane remained grounded in Sin City…

Garner found out and fired Ouzounian, kicked Affleck out
By the time Affleck landed back in the Bahamas June 29, Garner had heard about the trip and pieced everything together, says the insider. “She knew, and Ben knew that she did… There wasn’t an ‘I know what you did’ discussion. It didn’t need to be said.’”

Instead, Garner took action. She sent a letter to Ouzounian July 1 letting her know she’d been fired, says the insider, and sent Affleck packing two days later. “Jen was upset, but she handled it. She got rid of Christine and that was that.”

Affleck is begging Garner to deny his relationship with the nanny
He has texted and phoned Garner countless times. “Ben wants Jen to deny his relationship with Christine… At this point, she wants nothing to do with Ben… She will facilitate him seeing the kids, but other than that, she is finished. What happened with Christine is the ultimate betrayal.”

[From US Magazine, print edition, August 17, 2015]

I have to admit, this story was powerful and put me firmly in camp Garner. (Please get the print edition of US for more. I really couldn’t do it it justice here, and there are even more details.) I was already on Garner’s side, but I didn’t know that Garner had just been to visit her mom in the hospital or that she had let the nanny come to the Bahamas because Ouzounian had a sister there. This was the ultimate passive aggressive move by Affleck. Yes this person is a fameho and likely targeted him, but he could have realized that this would devastate his wife and kids. He can get random tail at any time, he doesn’t have to go so close to home. Instead, he was so desperate to escape from his situation that he banged his kids’ nanny and probably set it up so his wife would find out. She did, and she finally put her foot down. Good for her.

The Daily Mail has new photos of Jennifer Garner on set. She looks really worn and tired, but she’s also filming so maybe it’s for her role.

Jennifer Garner Takes Seraphina To Breakfast

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Ben Affleck Stops By The Pet Store With His Daughter

photo credit: FameFlynet and In Touch

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  1. LAK says:

    JG and her PR team need to stop. At this point, they are over egging the pudding.

    Just sit back and let BA and the looselipped nanny continue to dig the hole.

    Her silence will be golden.

    • Bichon says:

      I agree. She can just leave it all alone since he seems to self-destruct very well on his own.

      • Dena says:

        Hmm…I’m probably jumping in here too late, but I’m going to offer my perspective as a kid whose parents divorced due to my father’s infidelity.

        At the time of the divorce my parents kept it classy, and I had no idea there had been infidelity. Thing is – it always comes out. Always. And my parents weren’t even famous! So I later found out my Dad had an affair with his secretary (classy), knocked her up, told my mom that her boyfriend had got her pregnant and kicked her out. So my mom, thinking she was being a good Christian woman, took this woman in. My mom was pregnant at the same time. My Dad had his pregnant mistress living with his pregnant wife (my mom later found out and kicked the woman out, though she surrendered to the Christian guilt of ‘you have to forgive him for the kids sake!’ and kept my Dad around for longer).

        Anyway…I found out because I remembered the woman who’d lived with us. And kids – kids are simple. They see things in terms of black and white. So to me, it was – Daddy said he loved mommy, but then he did this horrible thing. And you don’t do things like that when you love someone. So he must have been lying. Daddy also says he loves me, but is he lying?

        It not only caused me to question his love of me, it’s caused issues in my relationships throughout my life. I don’t trust easily, or at all. And I’m now in my thirties. It hurt *me* that he had cheated on my Mom when she was pregnant. Still does. I barely speak to my father.

        So in this respect I am “team Garner.” She’s right – her kids will continue to deal with this for years. Not just the divorce, but the cheating. The close, in the home when they were around cheating. They will question not only their perception of things but their relationships. He’s done irreparable damage to them, which is a selfish, horrible thing to do.

    • Snowflake says:

      Yes, this article is a little over the top. The kids will have to deal with this for the rest of their lives was esp dramatic. She would have been better off not saying as much.

      • Neonscream says:

        Yep. People keep saying that the “nitpicking” was bad PR on Ben’s part but as it came hand in hand with the quotes about how sweet and professional and all round angelic Garner is it clearly came from her camp. Him whinging she was nagging and henpecking him doesn’t make her look bad at all, it has the exact opposite effect as evidenced by 99.9% of the comments.

        As for the kids having to deal with this for the rest if their lives? Please, they’ll know that their Dad still had sex after their parents broke up. Most of us managed to deal with that fact just fine, and if they read the statement put out by their parents, where both claimed they’d been seperated for nearly a year it will be a lot less of a big deal.

        Ben appears to be someone who has trouble being happy, who self sabotages and is generally pretty douchey and he made a TERRIBLE move in going for the nanny but Garner (or her team) are really over egging it. She’s already going to get all the sweet mom roles/endorsements, she can dial it back a bit.

      • vauvert says:

        Well, she is right though – the kids WILL have to deal with the knowledge that their dad not only slept around and hurt their mom, but got it on with the nanny, who was supposed to be there to help their mom take care of them – oh, and did I mention mom was working and flying out to visit sick grandma. .. Not only that but Jen was being nice to the fameho, taking her along to see her family… sorry but I am so team Jen at this point it is not even funny. Ben is such a jerk at this point that I no longer care what movies he makes I will always boycott him.
        I understand falling out of love and wanting a divorce – fine, do it with some class and respect for your family.

      • Wren says:

        It really was. It’s totally true, the kids will have to deal with this for the rest of their lives, just like all kids with divorced parents. True, most kids don’t have their parents dirty laundry aired in public for their friends to see, but goodness this really is getting silly.

        I feel for the kids, I really do. I don’t have personal experience because my parents are together, but I’ve had many friends whose parents divorced. It hurts no matter what and you can’t protect the kids from that. But that is also life and as my grandmother said hardships build character. Instead of wallowing in it publicly she should be helping them process it privately.

      • Dirty Martini says:

        I think the reference to the kids dealing with it for the rest of their lives is on point. Yes all children of divorce “deal with it” the rest of their lives, and the vast majority wind up just fine.

        However the vast majority don’t have to deal with it being headline news for months on end, daddy porking the nanny right under Mommy’s nose being fodder for public consumption and known by everyone you will ever meet for the rest of your life. That story will precede them now and forever.

        Just not the same thing folks as comparing it to my divorce (and kid) or yours,

      • claire says:

        All kids of divorce deal with it the rest of their lives. Her kids aren’t special snowflakes here. I guess this is really all she has going on though so milk the spotlight, Jen.

      • perplexed says:

        Maybe she’s worried how this will affect their view of relationships. A lot of people have divorced parents, but not everybody’s dad has sex with a nanny ( and other randoms) who wants to air all the dirty laundry to the media (what a freak). Sometime other people’s marriages break down for other reasons, not Affleck reasons (which are a lot weirder). Ben Affleck’s cheating seems to be on another level (like JFK level). Even someone like Jacke Kennedy didn’t want her kids knowing the extent of their father’s womanizing. In that sense, I don’t think Jen Garner’s view is hyperbolic. Also, most people are concerned about how their own kids will deal with a certain situation. She or anyone else noting that she’s concerned about the children doesn’t strike me as a big blow against Ben — rather, it sounds like Garner is having a normal parent reaction, and I don’t think it’s an offensive thing to note.

      • Ronda says:

        Like DirtyMartini says its different because they are children of famous people. its not only about the divorce but the rumours and everbody pretending to know what happened. And this isnt the end, there will be more stories and more stuff when both of them hook up with different people and it all will be in the gossip mags.

        If we all could read about our parents on the internet we probably would look, especially if we want to know what went down why the divorced.

      • Christin says:

        If my parents were famous and there were dozens if not hundreds of different stories about just one month in their separation, I would eventually read it. It’s bad enough to think about a community speculating or spreading rumors.

        I have said since late June / early July that they (even when trying to sound like co-parents) have both done way too much tit-for-tat. His camp / sources say this, so I’ll say that. Back and forth “narratives” and conflicting timelines are the hallmark of this split, and it is just adding to the thousands upon thousands of Web pages that will be around for decades on this mess.

      • CJ Berk says:

        I have been wondering and wondering WHY on earth did JG hire this girl in the first place?? It is truly a cliche. Was Jen blind to the realities of life and naive about the world? How could she have been so completely sorry to say DUMB. Didn’t any of her friends advise her to watch out? It’s a puzzle.

    • Jessica says:

      Right? She’s going to a hell of a lot of effort when she could just sit back and watch Ben implode. It’s happening with or without her input, getting involved just makes her complicit in all the messy drama.

    • Eleonor says:

      Agreed.
      She should take note from Tiger Woods ex wife (sorry don’t remember the name) who was amazing, for the sake of their kids.
      She didn’t play the “victim” card, she never said a word, while all Tiger’s ex mistresses were all over the places.
      She got her gigantic check and started over.

      • Tracy says:

        Elin was genius, wasn’t she?

      • cannibell says:

        Elin Nordegren – who absolutely handled herself with elegance and grace. When she graduated from Rollins College with a bachelor’s degree in psychology, she gave the commencement address. It’s worth watching. (She starts speaking at about 2:50.)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niffD5G0-6I

      • minx says:

        yes! Elin played it exactly right. Go after him with a golf club, then kick him out and let him self destruct. Go about your business, take care of your kids, get your settlement.

      • Eleonor says:

        @Minx: yes Elin should teach classes on “how to divorce from a douchebag”.

      • qwerty says:

        Elin handed this mess like a pro, down to the golf club situation lol. She should wrote a playbook for scorned wives of millionaires.

    • minx says:

      Yes. He’s a wang, no question, but she and her PR people need to dial it back.

    • RocketMerry says:

      I actually get it; she’s royally pissed, and rightfully so. She had already a firm hand on the media narrative on this divorce, and when the nanny spoke she decided she could at least use the opportunity to get her truth out.

      How insanely angry she must be feeling: not only Ben did this, but he also failed to distance himself enough from the nanny or silence her before she spoke out. The dude is an imbecille.
      Now Garner is going to destroy him, and good for her.

      • Luca76 says:

        But if she really is a devoted mom she’s got to put that all aside for her kids. That’s the pact a person should make once they procreate. You don’t have to like each other but you keep that stuff out of the public eye. She can’t control him but she can be the adult.

      • OhDear says:

        @Luca76 – I get what you’re saying, but we’re all discussing this situation as outsiders. She’ll probably regret doing this in due time, but IMO she’s currently in the thick of things and her response is understandable.

      • Luca76 says:

        Let’s agree to disagree. I don’t find it understandable at all. She’s making a huge mistake and it will help this story drag on for years in the tabloids just like the Aniston/Pitt divorce.

      • LAK says:

        She doesn’t need to give her side of it no matter what comes out.

        The nanny speaking out makes nanny AND Ben look bad.

        Silence from JG is far more effective than her spinning and giving quotes.

        As everyone mentioned above, see Elin, Tiger’s ex-wife example.

      • Gigi says:

        Just to remind you all that she was initially incredibly magnanimous, working really hard to put a rosy tinge on a horrific divorce. She even did photo ops with him and the kids after finding out about the nanny, to stiffle any bad blood rumors. But Ben cant even contain his jump off long enough to see the divorce through. Her kids are now exposed and she is publicly humiliated every single day because neither the nanny nor Ben can shut up. And it does look like Ben is enabling the nanny. I dont blame Jen for setting the record straight, at all.

        Taking the high road isnt an easy thing and she is as human as anybody. Me, I would probably be scouring the dark web for hoods to teach Mr. Hollywood and Nanny Mcfee a lesson they wont soon forget.

      • Alex says:

        I also think Jen wasn’t going to use this for PR originally. Remember the initial divorce stories around the two of them was amicable yet it was over. We will play nice for the kids angle.
        Then the nanny came out with her story and the gloves came off. Jen stopped playing nice for Ben and let him have it
        If you think about it this could have been over (tab wise) but now its the same story with new pieces. Hence why its dragging

      • Luca76 says:

        @Gigi I hate to break it to you but I don’t think that was really a good idea either. I suspect that Jen was trying to reconcile and was in deep denial about how over this marriage was.

      • stinky says:

        (team Gigi… so co-signing w/ you)
        (shes doin her best – and as usual, it aint good enough for a man)

      • nikko says:

        @ Gigi, I hear you…it’s not easy taking the high road. I too, would be scouring…… lol

      • get it together says:

        @Alex, YES times a million to everything you said. It would be one thing if Ben’s side had kept silent (home-wrecking nanny included!), and Jen tried to spin PR her way. I totally agree that once the nanny started spilling, Jen stood up for herself. Frankly, I think she deserves to do so if that’s her choice. As for her kids, they’re going to read about this whole thing one day anyway, so I think it’s actually good for Jen’s camp to voice her side of the story, so her kids can see both angles when they’re old enough. Maybe I haven’t been following this closely enough, but I have yet to read anything about Jen that is truly negative. So she “nitpicked,” so what? If that’s the worst thing Ben’s side can come up with, then Jen looks like the winner. Her speaking out (and really, we’ve only heard details form “sources”) doesn’t change the fact that Ben looks like the scum of the earth here.

        Finally, I agree that Elin set the bar quite high for how to divorce a scumbag…that woman is pure class and I admire her. However, I also think it was easier in Elin’s case because Tiger’s camp never said a bad word about her. In fact, Tiger was quoted as saying “Elin deserves praise, not blame.” http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/19/tiger.woods/

    • serena says:

      She’s already behaving quite well considering how he’s shaming her.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        I think so, too. This is intolerable, and whether she should have put her foot down sooner and instead let things pile up to the level of volcanic anger is irrelevant at this point. Maybe her anger is part at herself for putting up with so much for so long. Maybe it’s growth for her to finally NOT be perfect and NOT be saintly. In any case, it’s her divorce to do whatever she wants with, and she’s certainly considered the feelings of her children far more than he did. He’s Defcon Level 10 douche…can’t she even be Level 2?

        This is what did it for me: “…an unplanned trip to Boston to visit her ailing mother, Patricia, in the hospital.”

        And he wasn’t with her. Her mother’s in hospital, and he’s doing his thing.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I agree. Really, she is the only person in this situation who ISN’T being a complete asshole. I feel really bad for their kids. It seems like they are at an age where it would be especially difficult to deal with divorce, much less one that is involving so much dirt.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “to visit her ailing mother, Patricia, in the hospital.”

        Remember when she started crying talking about the photo shoot with her sisters and mother? I think her mom might be going through some very scary medical situation right now.

      • Wolf says:

        I absolutely agree

    • OhDear says:

      I agree, but TBH to JG, her response is actually far more diplomatic than what I (and most other people) would have given if I were in her position. Assuming the article is true – DAMN you are an arse Affleck (and desperate for fame former nanny)

      • wow says:

        But why? What do people ever hope to achieve by making a huge scene over a breakup except casting themselves in the role of “crazy clingy ex”?

      • OhDear says:

        How is she making a huge scene? How is she being a “crazy clingy ex?” She was betrayed and is stating her side of the story. Is it a great idea in the long run? No. But she’s likely furious and hurting right now. As others said, she’s human and taking the high road in this type of situation is extremely difficult.

        As outsiders in this story, we’re not the ones being hurt. We can say that we’ll act perfectly when a situation like this comes up, but whether we actually do so is another story.

    • lolo says:

      Disagree. She started out playing Ben’s narrative, she played nice and wasn’t leaking stuff. But then nannygate broke and she saw the writing on the wall and decided every man for himself.
      Being Ben’s cover for so many years is one thing when you’re married to him. It’s a whole different game when he’s not your man anymore and he wants you to cover up his porking the Nanny still.

      She’d already committed to his narrative of the breakup, then this blew up because of his sloppiness. And she has a right to explain why she’s backtracking from that initial break up narrative of consciously uncoupling after a ten month seperation bullish$t.

      • Itzblissy says:

        I feel like it’s a bit unfair to her. We have no clue if this is from her camp at all, because recall after the nanny gate this is a narrative most people want to hear. They can just be posting what they think the public who is on JG’s side wants to read.

        Honestly, considering how PR savy you all think she is, do you think she would keep beating this dead horse? I think she is just sitting back and let the media crucify him.

      • lolo says:

        I don’t think she’s beating a dead horse, just trying to put details out there that explain her actions since details are coming out anyways with the loose lipped Nanny. I’m not sure why she is expected to suffer in silence, I’d hit back too.

      • Alex says:

        I feel the same way. It was all nice divorce until the nanny stepped in. So no I don’t blame Jen at all

    • Wren says:

      I feel that way too. This is actually making me like Garner LESS than before. Honey, just let him keep digging his hole, you don’t need to keep putting stories out about how wonderful you are to highlight what a poop he is. He’s doing a fine job on his own.

    • NGBoston says:

      ^^^. This. Yes, totally agree w LAK.

      Enough already. Yes! We are all Team Jenn now. The Nanny sucks, the way Ben handled things suck– doing any of this amongst the children– the ultimate betrayal.

      It does make me not care to point out any longer that Jenn had her lovers during this marriage nc at least she was discreet.

      Enough already though! Please! Her PR Team really is over-egging the pudding as LAK points out.

      And Kudos to Jenn for axing the ” you can Co-Parent” from the new addition being built in our maritial home, too. But do you know who suffers from it all in the end!? The children, of course.

      #1. Band-Aid babies never work to help a marriage already in deep trouble.

      #2. Hypocrites that join sub-committees about Papparrazzi/Invasion of Pricacy Rights “you are scaring my children” and then having your PR Team absolutely bombard the Enterainment Media in both print and audio clips — it’s ironic, isn’t it jenn? The Irony is rich and you can’t have it both ways. PLEASE STOP with every sordid detail that your OWN children who you have publicly fought so hard to protect will be old enough to read this for themselves on the internet one day.

      #3. The Star-F*cker Nanny and temporary Mistress will soon crash and fade. Ask Rachel Utichel and all the hundreds of others in her place– and that is all she/they will ever be known for. No bragging rights there.

      Can we put this thing to bed now? Let them live their lives… Ben dealing with the consequences of his hurtful, shitty choices in addition to still needing Medical/Psychological Intervention for his Alcohol and Gambling addictions.

      //End of Rant//

      • lolo says:

        The problem seems to be that he never has to deal with his consequences because of his status. Sure he’s embarrassed right now, but this will blow over and batfleck will make money and he will continue to be a functioning addict who’s probably a total pain in the ass to deal with on a personal and intimate level.

      • Original T.C. says:

        Agree NGBoston

        Also you know to protect your children from longterm emotional trauma?

        1) Divorce their Dad when you see he continues to gamble, drink and cheat on you five years into the marriage instead of teaching your daughters to stay with a man who has no respect for them.

        2) Don’t continue making more babies with a man that puts his wick into places unknown increasing your chance of disease and passing disease to your unborn child. Keeping the family together is worse than protecting your children by walking away

      • ninal says:

        Why does Jen and the Nanny get the harshest judgement while Ben gets a semi-pass due to “addictions” and mommy issues and whatever else? Ben’s got demons, boo hoo. Don’t we all. Not a valid excuse once you’re middle aged and blessed with endless resources to battle them accordingly.

        Jennifer seems more cunning and calculating then she lets on for sure, agreed. And I don’t care who’s cheating cause for all we know they’ve got an open arrangement like everyone else in Hollywood. But this is some shabby, blatantly harmful behavior on his part in regards to being a father to some not-that-young kids.

    • Vava says:

      Totally agree, LAK. The rumors are already swirling too that the nanny is pregnant by Affleck. I suppose that was to be predicted, the rumors I mean. Whether or not it’s true remains to be seen.

    • Roller74 says:

      Totally agree. Let “Benny Gate” begin!

    • moomoo says:

      I don’t know, the egging made my heart ache for Garner. I’m sure she would not change the past but I wonder if part of her regrets (as many women eventually do) that she so clearly chose the wrong father for her children. I cannot imagine how angry she must be and what retribution she might understandably fantasize about unleashing upon Affleck and the nanny.

      • Tiffany says:

        @Moomoo. These things should not have surprised her. Look at how he treated Lopez before their wedding. If that was not a red flag I dont know what else she needed to see. She is some young naive ingenue who did not know any better. She left a bit of carnage to get to him and for 10 years groomed and worked to be an elite half of a power couple.

      • moomoo says:

        @Tiffany: Good points. I hadn’t considered that perspective. Also forgot about how things went with J.Lo as I started reading Celebitchy several years later (better late than never!). 🙂

      • K says:

        I think she was genuinely doolally about him. I don’t think it was ambition because when she married him, he was a total has-been and something of a joke. But she had hearts in her eyes when she looked at him at that time. And it was so weird, because he was always… who he is. I think she saw him as Mr Perfect, and then Mr Fixer-Upper, when actually he’s Mr Bad News.

        Love (or hormones, more accurately) can make idiots of us all.

  2. G says:

    Ben Affleck described Jennifer as being really kind and nice about everyone. He said she never talked shit about anyone ever and is a really good person. So if his people are trying to have her stamped as a nag, a nit-picker who drove Ben to cheat numerous times … well … it’s not really adding up.

    • Little Darling says:

      I’m feeling like “nag” and “nitpicked” are the words being used when Jen would, for example, nag Ben about where he had been for the last four nights and why did he come home reeking of cigarettes, alcohol and cheap perfume. You know how much of a nag it can be when your wife asks about that. Nitpicking too! She probably nitpicked him all of the time about not drinking or gambling since he’s a recovering addict for both. Damn nitpicking bitch!

      Seriously, I mean, I’m sure Garner was on him, a lot, but then who wouldn’t be? He must have been really hard to deal with.

      I feel for both of them. Maybe even more so for Ben because he’s going to have a tough go for the rest of life if he can’t learn how to treat himself with respect, and get his vices under control.

      Without someone to be held accountable to, he’s going to to have nothing containing him from acting with abandonment. She was his very fine clear plastic bubble, and now it’s popped I’ll be very curious to see what depths he goes, and for how long he will free fall without serious repercussions.

    • Neah23 says:

      Well the first image is to good to be true he described her like if she was a saint. Everybody gets mad and talks crap at some point it’s called being human and it doesn’t make you a bad person if you do.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      It isn’t. These ‘nag’ descriptions are coming perilously close to the b-word.

    • Cindy says:

      Yeah, he can’t now claim this is her fault for “nit-picking”. Ben is throwing her under the bus….maybe he feels cornered, having created this disastrous nanny situation. So his reaction is to both beg her to cover for him, while also blaming her for the failure of the marriage. I gotta say….Affleck seems to have no sense of loyalty, or even a sense of right and wrong.

      • DodieTn says:

        I agree with you. I think he is angry that she isn’t covering his behind anymore so he is acting out like a spiteful child. He is still stuck at that age when he apparently started drinking. I noticed a lot of alcoholic s are when I worked in recovery. He is spiraling out of control and has no one to latch onto. I hate it for the children. But this isn’t going to end well for him. I think a lot more is on its way with other women, drugs and the gambling. I even think a baby in the mix.

      • DIANE says:

        He really is revolting. I’ve never found him attractive or even that talented. But I’ve known men like him, borderline sociopaths who love their mothers but treat the rest of the women in their lives like crap. They’re the ones who matter, and what they want comes before any wife or kids. That he could betray his children by banging the woman they were entrusted to is totally reprehensible. And she is a shameless manipulator who’s playing her hand for all it’s worth. However it turns out, she beat him at his game and if she’s pregnant, then she hit the jackpot. He might even try to salvage whatever’s left of his reputation by feigning love and making an honest women out of her. If I were JG I’d go straight for the jugular with both of them. Her remarks about the kids being affected could be setting the stage for a sole custody shot, which wouldn’t be a bad idea, considering what a degenerate Affleck is.

  3. Maya says:

    Children are the most affected ones in a divorce.

    It’s also not helping that this couple is using the media to destroy each other.

    • Shambles says:

      It’s truly terrible that these kids will be dealing with this for years to come. I don’t know that I would be running to the press as much as Garner is were I in this position, but who’s to say what I would do if someone hurt me that badly. Anyway, though I feel the worst for the kids by far, I do still have some sympathy for Garner. For what Affleck put her through, and because of the fact that there might be a lawsuit coming her way due to a stupid mistake her husband made because he couldn’t be bothered to think with his brain instead of his dick. I said it yesterday, and I’ll say it again: it is inexcusable that he put his family in this position. That’s all on him.

    • Luca76 says:

      As a child of divorce it was such a relief once it happened. Living through my parents toxic relationship was the traumatic part.

      • Snazzy says:

        Me too. I can imagine when your parents are famous it has to add a level of strange as you can read all about your parents in the press, and everyone knows and is talking about it… must be quite traumatic as well.

      • Wren says:

        I’ve had friends say that too. After the initial pain was over it was really quite a relief. And that the subsequent squabble over who’s fault it was and who is entitled to what was really the worst part of the ordeal.

      • stinky says:

        I used to wish for a divorce to occur. it didn’t. theyre still alive & together & it can only be described as a genuine LOVE/HATE relationship. it wasn’t fun for us.

  4. NewWester says:

    Maybe someone can sort this out for me. When did Ben and Jennifer actually split? I know they just announced they were getting a divorce just a few weeks ago, but I have read reports they split up months ago. Then I am reading here they all went to the Bahamas in late June.

    • lisa2 says:

      It keeps changing.. 10 months, 8 months.. trying to save it in the Bahamas.. I don’t really thing anyone knows when they actually split.

    • LILOU2705 says:

      I was wondering the same thing.

      They annonce the divorce on June 30th. And they said they were separedted for 10 months (so in the end of 2014).

      But after reading this story I wonder if they were actually separeted in the Bahamas. I mean maybe they were together, trying to solve their problems (hence the family trip to the Bahamas).

      But if she arrived on the Bahamas on the 25th, ask the nanny to leave, and then by the 29th had learned what happenned in Vegas, that could explain the annonce on the 30th.

      Maybe Ben came back from Vegas on the 29th, and she just couldn’t take it anymore and decided to annonce the divorce…

      And they said to be separeted for 10 months just to cover his infidelities…

    • Luca76 says:

      Certainly not 10 months. Probably since the spring. From the sound of it Ben wanted to divorce- Jen wanted to work things out and was in denial. She only realize he was done after he made sure she found out about the nanny.

      • rosalee says:

        Affleck was spotted in Nova Scotia holding hands with a woman who was not his wife in May…he was also without his wedding ring.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The moving vans were spotted June 20 or 21st, and “sources” said it was home remodeling. You can’t hire a construction crew and start building in LA with a snap of your fingers. Someone has to draw up the plans and they have to be approved. The aerial photos, which I thought were illegal in LA, look like they’re closing in a section to attach two parts of the house together.

      If the remodeling was actually to provide him a self-contained apartment instead of a general remodel, that would indicate the separation had been in the works for a long time. I’m amazed no one has ferreted out how far back the request for the changes were filed, or the nature of the changes. Speaks to the integrity of the people in the planning department.

      Their official statement doesn’t say anything about a separation period prior. Is the info about the 10 months one of the many items attributed to “sources” that came out later?

    • Christin says:

      This latest article throws a lot of dates into the mix, and confuses the timeline even more.

    • lolo says:

      I think Ben’s version of how and when they broke up was the initial narrative, and Jen went along with it. But once the Nanny story broke, Jennifer seems to backtrack on that claim by implying it was sooner than that.

      • JoJo says:

        People’s (and other) stories this week are saying it wasn’t over when they went to the Bahamas. That they went there as a family and were planning to make “make or break” decisions about the future of their marriage while there. But when Jen found out about the Vegas weekend (Ben left the Bahamas R go there for the weekend, with the nanny), when he got back to the Bahamad, Jen supposedly pushed for the divorce. This new version sounds to me like it’s coming from her camp to try to show she still wanted to save the marriage in the Bahamas, but nanny-gate pushed her over the edge. It contradicts what both camps said originally though – which is that they went to the Bahamas purposely to make the announcement from there.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Jojo, if this is true, then why did construction start on their house before June 21st? That’s what I don’t get.

        The nature of the construction might clear that up, but we don’t have that info. Are they connecting two pieces of the house and had planned to do that for a long time? Or are they building a mother-in-law (aka husband) apartment?

  5. InvaderTak says:

    That’s pathetic. All children of divorce have to deal with it for the rest of their lives you narcissist. And I get that the nanny was the final straw in their marriage but she’s only worried about her? Really? So all the previous drinking, drugs and gambling was ok for the kids to live with? Or does she think that she covered that up enough so they don’t know? Trust me they know. AND they will forever have to deal with your actions in public Jen! You think this is helping them cope? now or ever? Why should we have sympathy for her right now again?

    • jinni says:

      If anyone should be admonished for letting the kids live in an environment with excessive drinking, drugs, and gambling it should be Ben since he’s the one that brought it into his kids lives. Ben already knows what his kids are going through because he went through the same thing with his Dad. Who eventually abandoned his family only to reconnect with Ben when he was in his early 20’s. So, Ben should have don’t everything in his power to make sure that his kids didn’t have to go through the same thing. Ben is the one that is continuing the cycle of addiction in his family. So attack him for passing this on to his kids.

      • InvaderTak says:

        I’m not saying he shouldn’t be. I’m talking about how this article makes it sound like JG is only NOW worried about how Ben’s actions affect the kids. And she does share blame in exposing those things to her kids if she allowed BA to bring them around THEIR kids. If she enabled his behavior she is complicit. She is their parent too and they have to come first. Her press people are insane with this over the top wronged mommy crap. Everyone has heard the rumors and seen glimpses of his behavior. His dirtbagness is NOT news. I have a very low tolerance for people who tolerate dirtbags around their kids. I don’t care what the reason is. If this was the first time, or even the second with him I’d have a lot more sympathy. But if the rumors are to be believed it’s far from it. So no she is not an innocent victim of an addicts behavior here. She is rich, famous and has family friends and means to take her kids and leave. She more than likely has all she needs to get full custody. But she’s playing for the press. Nope. I’m fresh out of tolerance for this.

      • notasugarhere says:

        What if, up until now, he had kept that away from them? The kids were never there to witness the cheating, drinking, gambling. He did those things when he was “away at work”. At home, he was just an absent father who thought about work while playing with them, but he wasn’t drinking, gambling, and sidepiecing in front of them.

        What they would have experienced was how his behavior impacted the parents relationship, but they wouldn’t see the behavior themselves. What if the final straw was, he brought it home and they did witness it? It doesn’t excuse any of his behavior, merely a possible explanation of divorce after all this time.

      • lolo says:

        His oldest daughter is my kids age. My kid knows how to google. Her classmates know how to google. How can Ben keep things away at work when his sloppiness has been documented online for years? Counting cards and finger banging strippers and practically living at casinos are just a smidgen of what comes up on him with a simple google search. Bens sloppy, and Nanny highlights that fact and his inability to protect his family from his side activities.

    • Toot says:

      Right there with you Invader.

      • vauvert says:

        Here is why I disagree with you both: as soon as they had children – whether one or two – she started to protect them and try to fix the marriage at any cost because here is the alternative: most couples end up with joint custody, so she would have to send the kids every other day/week/weekend to an environment ruled by an absent father who is also an alcoholic gambler, entertaining an ever changing parade of women… Look at Charlie Sheen’s kids. The only normal ones are the girls because their mom put up with the verbal abuse even after the divorce just so she could live physically close to the idiot, where she could be certain her children would not be in danger while un-surpervised at Charlie’s house. She got labeled everything for that but to me it was always obvious why she stayed close and tried to stay friends, and I would have done exactly the same.
        I assume this is what Jen did too. Would you send your two or three year old to an ex who drinks and is gambling and moody and brings home strippers and hope your kids will just be fine in their care? Or would you try to save the damn marriage, try to help him, try to keep it together?

    • Merritt says:

      Most kids with divorced parents don’t have their parents personal lives splashed all over magazines and the internet. Nor will the deal with taunting from mean kids at school about their dad choosing to have an affair with the nanny.

      • InvaderTak says:

        Granted. but she’s intentionally making it worse.

      • The Original Mia says:

        @InvaderTak, how is she making it worse? His jumpoff has the tabs on speed dial. His jumpoff is selling their sordid affair for as much money and attention as she can get. The fact that Jen hasn’t said anything about any of his numerous affairs until now is a testament to how much she has tried to protect her kids from their father’s poor judgement and impulse control.

  6. Neelyo says:

    Her kids?

    • Ming says:

      Yes HER kids, because it seem obvious, that she is the only one who thinks about the well being of her children. He is so f*ucked-up. Ofcource these will affect the kids most specially when they go back to school, how can Jen explain this scandal to her kids? Does Ben think about her children at all? Given he no longer respect his wife but dude just think about your kids! Are you still on high?

  7. Freddy Spaghetti says:

    I think Jennifer is right to worry about her kids and how they will react when they find out about all this, especially if they were close to the nanny.

  8. Jayna says:

    Wow. Now I will have to buy this week’s US Weekly too. LOL

    That nanny’s now ex-fiance also lives in the Bahamas. He’s a fisherman.

    I guess Jennifer’s mother is ill. So her crying on that show did have something to do with that. Although, I still think her state was already fragile because of Ben.

    Ben is such a letdown. Jennifer has been his wife for ten years. She deserved more respect, as did his children, in the ending of this marriage and how it went down. But Ben’s ego and second brain was more important. Childish, selfish behavior.

  9. Jax says:

    I don’t understand this mess. When the divorce was announced it seemed they had a lock down on how it was being portrayed, so that the press was making it all look amicable and reasonable. Why then would Ben just set a bomb under that?

    • Tate says:

      Cause Ben is apparently a self destructive idiot.

      • Jayna says:

        It’s a simple as that, really.

      • Lucy2 says:

        He really is self destructive. It’s amazing how poor the decisions he’s made have been.

        I feel bad for Jen and the kids have to deal with this all so publicly.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Maybe the nanny and whatever she’s doing is what messed up their PR plan.

    • DodieTn says:

      I think he did for spite. He can’t get Jennifer to be his mom anymore and pickup his dirty laundry and also I think he is very insecure behind his cockiness. Plus he stated he wasn’t present with the kids. That’s not something to be proud of.

  10. MrsBPitt says:

    When will people realize, that you aren’t just cheating on your spouse, you are cheating on your whole family….Infidelity hurts, not only your spouse, but your children, parents, extended family…It is not just breaking up a marriage…it is breaking up a family…my heart breaks for Jen Garner…she is the one that has the kids, and still has to put on a happy face for them, while the cheater, is having a BBQ on his private island…and yes, Jen looks worn out and stressed, but, the nanny looks well rested and happy!!!! I never figured this couple would last forever, but I never thought that it would end with this fiasco! I can’t even enjoy the celebrity gossip of it….(and I love my celeb gossip), but this, this was such a betrayal, it just makes me sad…

    • vauvert says:

      I agree wholeheartedly. My feelings too.
      Not sure why Jen gets any blame in this – she wore ugly shoes, she tried too hard to save the marriage, and now, oh why doesn’t she stop the gossip. Listen, the gossip is too good, no one can control it anymore… and frankly anyone can tell she is heartbroken, and we can all see she IS the one working and being with the kids while the as*hole parties in GA and his mistress is living it up in a swanky hotel.

    • laurabb says:

      This!!

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      “Facts are stubborn things.” – John Adams

    • A. Key says:

      You’re right, it’s Garner who’s carrying the weight of the divorce in front of the kids. She has to basically comfort her kids and probably everyone around her who keep yapping “are you ok you poor thing” and then you have to insist “I’m handling it, I’m ok” just to get everyone off your back. She probably doesn’t have the time to cry alone ffs.
      Meanwhile, Affleck is partying like a highschooler with his bros and boinking the nanny…..

  11. Lilacflowers says:

    Yes, Jen, your children will have to deal with this the rest of their lives and you and your soon-to-be-ex are not helping them by running to People or other media outlets with every seamy, sordid detail in a battle to get your side covered. New puppies and wearing wedding rings for no reason won’t cover up what you two have put out into the world that your kids’s classmates will share with them or they will find themselves some day. In one of your statements, you asked for “privacy”, why don’t you actually seek that out by ending the reports to media outlets?

    • Luca76 says:

      Yup!

    • Christin says:

      Agree with you. She’s mad and hurt right now, but they have been playing an OTT media game for many weeks before the Bahama/nannygate fiasco.

      One example — all the family pap photos of May/June where Ben looks like he’d rather be anywhere but with his family. And they did multiple such walks, which leaves photos for years showing those last week’s and how clearly aggravated and miserable he was.

      He is a selfish jerk, no doubt. Yet he is still Daddy to those young children. There is just TMI about this split on the Internet that did not have to end up there. And it came from BOTH parties, and made the shameless nanny’s claims have more of a spotlight as a result.

      • Gigi says:

        The united front was clearly intended to control the scrutiny and it DID initially work. They made sure to saturate the media with how peaceful it all was so that there was no news vacuum. Other than afew blogs most people were happy to accept that this was a drama-free parting. Even here those posts are filled with comments declaring this a boring divorce and moving on to the next gossip. Had they just put out a statement and disappeared, there would have been a lot more sniffing around because again the one thing news hates is VACUUM. But then it all fell apart with the jump off who probably has something mega on Ben and Ben who didnt have the brains to cut her off after Bahamas. They ruined a good plan.

      • Christin says:

        There is a point where she needs to go radio silent. With his reputation and rumors, not to mention he may be in full mid-life crisis mode, it’s not completely surprising a fiasco would happen. This is probably the tip of the iceberg.

        Someone here posted a video of him nuzzling a female interviewer as he talks about her chest and tries to speak in a French accent. It was cringeworthy to see. It was probably a few years old, but he appeared an immature (possibly drunken) mess. And he knew it was being filmed. He is a walking disaster waiting to happen.

      • Ming says:

        Yes agree with you Gigi. But then again knowing Ben Affleck, He always finds wonderful way to screw it.

    • laura in LA says:

      This!

  12. Mrs Fonzieface says:

    Well duh, of course it’s going to hurt the kids. They would be better served if everyone stopped waging this PR war. Garner has a right to feel the way she feels but now is the time to stop leaking information.

    • Astrid says:

      yup, totally agree. Give or take that half of marriages in America end in divorce and there are usually kids. This divorce isn’t the first or the last. Jen needs to stop with the PR, get it together and move on, like the rest of us.

      • bettyrose says:

        ITS. The kids are young. Only the oldest will remember all of this, but Garner will go on to marry a great guy and have a lucrative career. Dad’s a jerk but mom will get over it and that’s what the kids will see.

      • bettyrose says:

        ITA, obviously, not ITS. 😛

    • minx says:

      +1000.

  13. SuePerb says:

    The kids will be fine if they are grown up about things and act normal with them and in front of them. Keep to normal routines, (not trying to buy your way out of it with puppies) let them chat away about how much fun or whatever they did with the other parent and don’t slag the other off no matter what. We are past the 1950’s where divorce is a scandal so they won’t get teased at school. If she really said this, she needs to grow the f’up and stop with the sympathy vote and both sides needs to stop this PR point scoring. That is what will affect the kids, not their parents splitting.

    • Azurea says:

      This will probably never resolve satisfactorily, because Ben Affleck is a malignant narcissist.
      As such, he won’t change, he will twist, manipulate & lie, always. Even if he apologizes, it will only be an act, and his further actions will prove this. He will never be a good father, because he’s a an emotionslly stunted human being, incapable of relating to anyone on an open, honest level. This divorce will be the best those kids can get from him.

  14. Jayna says:

    Why would her mother be in a hospital in Boston? I remember Jennifer went to a Boston Hospital for research for her role in the Miracles movie. There was a photo of her there.

    But I’m confused. Her mother lives in West Virginia.

    • DianaM. says:

      Maybe she went to see a specialist in Boston – there are some excelent hospitals there (like MGH and Dana Farber). Hope it’s not something too serious, though. 🙁

      • Jayna says:

        June 26, she visited Boston Children’s Hospital doing research for her movie. I don’t know if this is the same trip they are talking about or not. Maybe not.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Boston has several hospitals that are consistently rated either the best in the country or the best in the world for some treatments and as a result, they attract patients from all over the world. Massachusetts General Hospital is considered the best hospital in the country.

      • Jayna says:

        Her mother was “under the weather” back in March, when she cried on camera. If her mother is now traveling to be at one of the best hospitals months later, it sounds serious.

        Poor Jen. If true, going through all of this. when her mother is ill also, is almost too much to bear.

    • Christin says:

      She could have visited her mother in WV *and* gone to Boston (they are only 600 miles apart). Could be a mistake in the article.

  15. Jem says:

    Affeck wanted Garner to publicly deny the affair? how is that her responsibility, to ‘fix’ this situation? What a douche

  16. JoJo says:

    I agree what he did is terrible, if it’s all true. But let’s all take a reality check – his kids WILL be absolutely fine. He’s not an ax murderer. Kids have to deal with things WAY worse than this in their lives, and while I’m not saying it’s good or ideal, it’s still better that these two are divorcing and they can continue to see their dad and mom on their own. Affleck’s (or Jen’s) personal lives at this point really don’t need to come into it. The whole “my kids will be permanently traumatized” thing is a little overblown and sounds very entitled. Kids all over the world are going through so much worse. I guess in fake celebrityland, this is considered life-altering, but … It really isn’t. At this point, we’re all just feeding the media machine.

    And I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again, regardless of what he’s done, do you all really believe that Affleck would be dumb enough to feed a story about “nitpicking” to the press? Come on! No. Way. Do you really think with a story of this magnitude going on around him, that he thinks a “nitpicking” story is going to paint him in a positive light? No way. I know Lainey suggested yesterday this angle was intended to capture the “dude” audience, but I don’t buy that for a second. And the opinions of Lainey and even this site are often wrong. I just don’t buy it – he isn’t that naive. It’s just People reusing quotes they’ve heard from other sources earlier on to keep this media cycle going. Same as how we have to see ridiculous stories of how Jen “smiled” on set!!! Wow! Now that’s newsworthy. ‘Today, Jennifer Garner was seen breathing on set – incredible!’ This is a runaway train at this point, and it has taken on a life of its own.

    • Jayna says:

      You wouldn’t think he would say that, but Ben has been doing some pretty stupid things during this breakup. So, unfortunately, it wouldn’t surprise me.

      Lainey’s remark was silly, to capture the dude audience. I don’t believe that. But If he said it, I do believe it’s because Ben is self-involved and really feels put-upon by his wife right now, who was probably nit-picking him for good reason towards the end and trying to orchestrate the breakup to do minimal damage for the kids and he resents everything. And he’s in his poor Ben state.

    • Izzy says:

      Please don’t minimize the impact something like this has on the lives of children. Particularly with infidelity involved, the emotional ramifications are far-reaching and can greatly affect the children’s ability to have normal and healthy romantic attachments when they are adults. As someone who’s had to deal with that, I really feel for those kids. And I didn’t even have the added clusterwhoops of the high publicity factor.

      • Luca76 says:

        Heres the thing most people find it impossible to grasp. The trauma comes from involving the kids in your problems. She has every right to be upset and feel betrayed but she better let that s**t go and stop airing their dirty laundry because a bitter divorce will screw those kids up much worse than an affair.

      • vauvert says:

        Thank you Izzy. yes this will affect the children. Particularly when you know that the media will continue to talk about this long after the divorce gets settled. God forbid that stupid nanny gets any continued media exposure. And sorry Luca76, the kids ARE already involved. They see their mom crying, they see the nanny is gone, they see their dad is gone – particularly if the original arrangement was to have him live in the guesthouse temporarily and now that’ s sunk. But let’s all continue to blame Jen for being human, and being hurt by this last bitter chapter in a long marriage that she has tried very hard to work at.

      • Luca76 says:

        I’ve seen divorces handled in the messy way and I also saw how my sister handled her divorce. Her husband was a POS not unlike a Ben Affleck type but she never ever spoke ill of him or let any drama go down in front of her kids.
        Guess what? They are really happy and stable adults now and they came to terms with their dad and who he really is in their own time.
        Jen made the choice to procreate with him so this absolutely is the time to suck it up ,find a good therapist put on her big girl pants and stop blaming him in the public eye.
        She can choose between 6 bad months in the press or years of a PR war.

      • Iknowwhatboyslike says:

        My mother never spoke ill of my father, when they divorced. Not one word. But I dislike him and think he’s a pretty shitty human being. Why? I was old enough to see what he did to my mother. I value my mother above all else because I thought she was a spectacular woman and deserved the world. And when I was older enough to decipher how he hurt my mother, the anger developed and I have never respected my father after that. Kids are perceptive. Kids can sense sadness. Don’t think Violet is old enough to sense that her mother is sad and daddy isn’t around any more. Jen doesn’t have to say a cross word against Ben for the kids to be affected. And even if Jen was quiet and did not run to the magazines, the fact is, Ben screwed a loud mouth nanny who ran to the mags and now it’s a known fact that their father screwed a woman his children spent time with.

      • Gigi says:

        I find it ironic that people were bashing her precisely for “having her big girl pants on” when the divorce was first announced. “Shes so fake”, “hes a pig and she still covers for him”, “she still wants him”, they cried. Her offence at the time was pushing against any possible negative spins by making sure they looked like a unit even during divorce. Now that Ben screwed that pooch, and shes being authentic suddenly “shes letting the drama go down in front of her kids”. All I can say is that she is not a robot, she is allowed to have a human response to a terrible situation.

        With luck Ben is now scared that Garner has gone off the reservation and realises that she has far more dirt on him than the nanny. Maybe this is the push he needs to stop texting the nanny and shut her down for good.

      • lolo says:

        Luca- my dad had an affair, they tried to protect me from that reality, but I figured it out. Kids are smart, and pick up quickly on these things. It was very devastating for me since I was just starting puberty and had idolized my dad initial then. Kids can survive these things for sure, but I sure wish I hadn’t been exposed to such things so early, and had been protected instead of becoming cynical and distrustful at such a young age.

      • JoJo says:

        @ Izzy – I’m not at all minimizing the impact of divorce. How could I? Divorce is practically bred into my family, going back to my grandparents. :/ Not to air dirty laundry, but my parents had a very similar marriage and divorce to Ben/Jen’s situation (based on appearances anyway, and of course we weren’t rich or famous.) My brother and I went through a lot as kids – including some scary stuff – but we lived. Was it perfect and ideal? Of course not. But we both grew up as normal, happy and well-adjusted as anyone else can claim to be. The nanny situation will not ruin those kids. Kids go through far, far worse and come out the other side. The thing that WILL ruin them is their parents engaging in a public or even private war, or even Jen keeping them from Ben (which I do not think she’ll do.) What matters most is what that family is doing internally and the messages both parents are communicating to their kids in private and the time they’re spending with them. That’s what matters now and will matter going forward.

      • Neonscream says:

        I had to deal with it too, so did my partner. Neither of us were traumatised by it, both of us have good relationships with both parents.

    • Neah23 says:

      ( I’ll say it again, regardless of what he’s done, do you all really believe that Affleck would be dumb enough to feed a story about “nitpicking” to the press? )

      YES!!!! and do you know how I know this because he did the same thing to JLO. He sh*t talk her to the press and blamed all his problems and career slope.

      • Azurea says:

        As I said above in reply to another comment, he is a malignant narcissist. Such prop,r always blame others, for everything. They only apologize to get out of a sticky encounter, then will go back to trashing the other.

      • Christin says:

        I remember that, and how he certainly seemed a willing participant in the yacht video, Bentley driving pap photos and pink diamond publicity. Then came Gigli, and he sang a different tune.

      • Neah23 says:

        Exactly because that’s what Ben does he but all the blame on the women instead of taking responsibility for his own actions, and decisions.

    • Angel says:

      Thanks Jo Jo- I agree with you. The media is feeding these stories for magazine sales and TV show ratings. There are plenty of people who waited for Ben and Jen to breakup. When it actually happen it look like they where not going to get their juicy gossip. Then the nanny got her pay day from the magazines and nanny gate gave people something to feed off of.
      I for one don’t trust the nanny story. I don’t know if Ben had affair with this nanny and I really don’t care. I don’t think Ben is paying for her hotel stay neither. I think her parents told her to get the media away from their home. The media probably paid for her stay at the hotel as part of money deal for pictures of ( Ben standing in his driveway with her standing in her open car door giving Ben a package).
      Ben will never win against his heaters. He should keep he money in his bank account. Why pay lawyers or a fame ho nanny money when it will not stop the heaters from having a negative opinion of him. Keep your money for our kids Ben. I for one will still go see your movies if they are good….
      Jen is not a weak person. She knew who she was marrying. She could have just had Violet and been co-parents to one child. I think they both wanted to get married and have kids because they their in the 30’s and timing was good for both of them. They found out they where not compatible. Jen said in a interview after her first divorce that she had a vision of how she thought her marriage should be and she was disappointed about how it didn’t turn out how she wanted. She said learned you should not try to change person you are with but accept the person for who they are. Jen ….it is time to move on and find some one more compatible for you. Move on to husband number 3 … Third times the charm. I think a lot of the image saving stuff is coming from her camp. She has movies and 2 product campaigns to think about….. Capital One and Neutrogena.

      Ben is a product of a bad marriage and ugly divorce. I think he loves kids more then some people are giving him credit for. Ben has many issues with his father being an alcoholic/ leaving his mother for another woman / and being out of his life from age 11 until he was 18 years old. So I think he will be in his kids life no matter what the custody battle is. So it really doesn’t matter what the gossip is true or not. The Affleck kids need both parents. The courts will decide what time Ben has with his kids.
      I believe the kids will be better off with Ben in their life then not.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He has admitted to being an absent parent, that when he is with them he’s thinking about work and not paying attention to the kids. Moving forward, we can all hope he’s a better parent. Up to now by his own account, he wasn’t being an engaged father.

  17. Talie says:

    As someone who has a family member in the hospital right now, I can’t even imagine. You’re already exhausted enough and then to have your spouse do that to you. So messed up…

  18. Boxy Lady says:

    If the nanny winds up pregnant, then yes those children *will* be dealing with this for the rest of their lives.

    • DTX says:

      She’s not pregnant. Look closely at yesterday’s pics of her, she was having cocktails by the pool.

  19. Mia4S says:

    “The idea that her kids may have to deal with this for the rest of their lives is something she is having a lot of trouble with.”

    She should have thought of that a couple of affairs and it sounds like at least one child ago. Every sympathy for the children but she’s going to have to suck it up, her “trouble” with it is so just too bad. The guilt though? That’s on Affleck.

  20. Luca76 says:

    Reese Witherspoon needs to call Jen up and tell her how she dealt with and continues to co-parent with that dog Ryan Phillipe. When he cheated she never leaked any info and kept that s**t locked down so that it wasn’t a major gossip story for long. No matter what Ben has done and how crazy and inappropriate he chooses to be Jen has the ability to shield her children if she’s mature enough to actually let Ben go. Stop trying to control, or guilt him into being something he can’t be. Stop leaking stories to the tabs. Concentrate all that energy into giving the kids a stable and peaceful home.

    • minx says:

      That’s very true about RW and RP. I also think Reese was NEVER going to cast herself as s victim, which JG is doing.
      Everyone knows BA is the bad guy here, she should put a stop to this. No more details.

    • Gru says:

      Reese didnt have a nanny holed up at the hotel Bel Air on Ryans dime with tabloids on speed dial and fame on her mind. Special circumstances.

    • Beth says:

      Reese was not discret about Ryan’s affair with Abbie Cornish. She later stated that their divorce was responsible for career missteps. So very classy!

  21. MrsBPitt says:

    How many half-way good looking nannies, do you think have been fired in the past few days, because of this? I bet the unemployment line has gotten a lot prettier…

    “Hello! Nanny Agency? yes, this is Hiliaria Baldwin, and I just wanted to let you know that I just fired the nanny we hired from you! Why??? Because she was a little too good looking! Could you please send over any nannies that you have with buck teeth, bad skin, and weigh over 300 pounds? What do you mean, you just sent the last one of that description over to Victoria Beckhams??? Now you listen to me, you find me a fugly nanny, and make it quick!!!”

    • Merritt says:

      In all seriousness, fugly nannies can part of an affair too. If someone is that concerned that their husband will cheat with the nanny, then they need to divorce. The whole “don’t hire an attractive nanny” stuff is really silly at this point. It really comes down to getting rid of a crappy untrustworthy spouse.

      • MrsBPitt says:

        I was just trying to be funny!

      • DTX says:

        I agree with you. However, I will sheepishly admit that I wouldn’t hire a hot young nanny “juuuuuust in case!” LOL! I’m only half serious, tho. My hubby has had a cute assistant here and there, but I’ve never felt a spark of worry because even if they may have at one point thought he was handsome (because my hubs is sexy, no joke) they all end up seeing him as an obsessive compulsive, intense man with unrealistically high expectations. I soften him up a lot and they always cozy up to me really fast so that I can help them get a handle on dealing with him. He’s really sweet and friendly but he’s all business at work and can scare the sh*t out of some people.

        Gosh, I’m so glad I didn’t marry Ben Affleck because I would have poisoned him by now.

  22. Beatrice says:

    Please, Jen–ENOUGH! I get it that you are trying to manage your “mother of the century” image, but I am sick of your constant PR spinning. You would look better keeping quiet and leaving some things unsaid.

    • frivolity says:

      Yes!
      I do feel for Jennifer somewhat – I am human after all – but I still can’t get over the fact that she is responsible for bringing these children into this toxic relationship. I’m sorry, but if we gossip-reading people could see all of this coming from miles away from the beginning – and we don’t know these celebrities from Adam – it is hard for me to understand why Jen did not wise up and kept having children with Ben, who had addiction issues and was likely cheating on her from nearly the beginning. I’m not saying she is responsible for this mess, but she is responsible for continuing to bring children into it after the writing was on the wall. And even the gossip rags are now saying that the writing was on the wall before the second and third children arrived!

      As others said – this will be hard for the kids, but they’ll be okay. They have every privilege in the world that most other kids do not have when going through a similar situation. Geez, 25% of American kids (and 40% of African American kids!) live in poverty – a true moral outrage. We really do not need to worry too much about the Affleck-Garner crew.

      • Gru says:

        As someone who grew up a part of that 40%, let me tell you that even though we were dirt poor, I didnt realise it until the kids at my school told me. I had no idea other families didnt eat left overs for breakfast or didnt share clothes across gender. There were many struggles but I had a happy childhood. My siblings and I have done well precisely because despite everything ours was a good home. I wholeheartedly sympathise with these kids trapped in gilded cages from which they must publicly live their dysfunctional family life.

    • lucas says:

      Maybe you should tell the psycho nanny that! The nanny had no shame, immoral and disgusting. And Ben, should for one in his miserable life should defend whatever is left of his tattered family. JG is fighting. If not, Ben and his psycho nanny will annihilate her. Just like what you are doing.

    • DTX says:

      Meh….I’m sorry but I’m giving Jen a pass on this. She was really trying to make this as friendly as possible in the beginning but he and that cheap skank nanny have been humiliating her DAILY. She is only human, so compared to what I might have done, she’d doing pretty okay to me. I’m a vindictive little thing when I’m mad, especially if I’ve been trying hard to be good in a bad situation that is someone else’s doing, so I would have lost my damn mind by now. None of these quotes are coming from her directly either, so she can always just be like “I never said that!” I know I would. “I never said that you caught STD’s from hookers and slutty nannies, Ben!” “I’ve never once given an interview saying that you sunk my career and reputation like you did to your ex-fiance! How dare you!” I was all dimples and rainbows while being a good mommy while you were off having a party to celebrate that you’d gotten rid of your boring, guilt-inducing family!

      She’s got this in the bag, those kiddos will always know that their mom tried hard to keep them together while dad was screwing the moron nanny and throwing parties/gambling/sexing hookers. Even if they do think she planted PR stories, how bad are her stories anyway? Not very, they are very sanitized and sad.

      • captain says:

        Great comment, I totally agree. I like all your comments on this thread. Dimples and rainbows, lol )))

      • lolab says:

        Ha-my take exactly. I’d be throwing Ben under the bus, as well as that nanny and hostess at Olive Garden and the hot blonde at the dry cleaners; and let’s not forget that bitch Blake and that WonderWoman twig, and every other costar he porked, and all the strippers he finger banged as well- every last one of them I’d name off in order, and then I’d drop the mic and flip him the bird one last time before leaving the stage.

        She’s being pretty restrained, trust me.

  23. serena says:

    He begged for her to say nothing about the nanny?? He deserves nothing at this point, just complete humiliation. What a selfish bastard.

    • Anne says:

      I agree with you. Just to play devil’s advocate, though: I understand Ben wanting to keep it under wraps – for his own sake, to save the family from excruciating press intrusion, and for the sake of all the projects he has coming in the future. His tarnished image could bring a lot of other people and projects down. But I agree with you – this type of behavior is a pattern with Affleck and he should think before he acts.

  24. DodieTn says:

    I see all this leading up to Jen getting full custody and he will get limited supervised custody which he will screw up deliberately to maybe two weeks in summer. He is not impressive as a husband or father. He needs to man up which at 42 he never will do. It’s everyone else’s problems. I would let him flop in the wind like his Wang. And if he is an alcoholic, half the time it isn’t working. I think a lot of Jens protection of him is for the kids. I think her mom is seriously ill.

    • laurabb says:

      I think she would have had full physical custody if the kids anyway. He does not want the responsibility.

      • Gru says:

        Yep. I think the whole guesthouse thing was really about Jen ensuring that the children still have a father. Once he is off on his own, he will see those kids every single day for a month……during Oscar season if he has a movie nominated, and never at any other time.

  25. Patty says:

    It’s time for Jen to take the ring off. The gig is up.

  26. meme says:

    Well if Ben isn’t paying for her to stay at this swanky hotel, who is? This divorce escalated like California wildfire.

  27. db says:

    Wow, this is the firmest account I’ve read so far. He totally manipulated the situation so JG would be the one to leave. Anything more puts out there will be overkill though. Silence is the high road now, and I hope JG will take a lesson from Sandra Bullock and shut down any further comment/pr news/etc.

    • Ana says:

      Remember the narrative that Ben wanted the divorce now so when WB rolls out Batman he is already single. He abandoned that family a long time ago. He doesn’t like to be a husband and a father anymore. For me, if we are doing the conspiracy theory again, he set up this nanny gate to force JG out of this marriage and to humiliate her some more. He doesn’t need her anymore because he is now Batman and a well known director. In all this, He didn’t consider his kids because we all know he is a very selfish man and only thinks of himself. He thinks that he will walk that red carpet in March with another woman, maybe Gal Gadot: but he may have to walk that red carpet now with the midget nanny. Him and the nanny are the most hated people right now. PR nightmare!

  28. Cherry says:

    They really need to stop with this pr nonsense. The nanny is only getting attention because of this obsession with faking united family in public while looking suicidal, ring wearing, mommy sell….. They are fuelling stories by giving the media images to project onto.

    If they both acted like they had moved on initially rather than dragging everything out and making public scenes none of this would be happening.

    • Red says:

      Please, this story would still be a massive deal if it had happened to Charlie Sheen and his current. The nanny is getting attention because she was a member of staff charged with caring for the kids of Hollywood royalty and proceeded to bone the husband. She will continue getting attention for as long as she keeps teasing us with potential dirt. All you need is famous faces and titillation.

      • Cherry says:

        It would be a headline forgotten by lunchtime if it were most famous people. The massive publicity they are getting is because of how they present themselves. The martyr mommy/perfect moment image that Jen has been selling the last few years has been the cause of all the pap and tabloid problems they’ve had. She sells to the people who buy gossip and keeps filling them up with more. He always looks suicidal dragged into it, no wonder but that creates even more headlines and gossip. It’s a vicious cycle.

  29. Jayna says:

    “Wah, wah, Jen. I want the nanny. Why can’t I have the nanny? You’re such a buzzkill. You never let me have any fun.”

  30. QQ says:

    Well, my my my …did we ever think the day would come when Goody Goodwife of the Dimple Village would be Outplaying Ben Affleck at Divorce Image P.R??? Is she laying it up Thick? Yes But is it working?? Indubitably, which is why Affleck better start offering reddit Meninist and Marvel Fanboys Free BJs with Their Tickets as Women are NOT seeing it for this dude

    • db says:

      LOL Excellent

    • The Original G says:

      Exactly. And what mothers are going to be buying Batman merchandise and Happy Meals for their little ones after this?

    • Izzy says:

      Well, he’d better offer it to DC Comics fanboys, as Marvel fanboys – and fangirls like me – are too smart for that old trick.

      And I was never going to see the Batfleck clusterwhoops movie anyways. Partly because I’m not thrilled about this new iteration of Superman. And partly because of Batfleck. And that was before Nannygate.

  31. ann says:

    I think Jen is leaking information because it was insinuated that she purposely hired a hot nanny to lure Ben. She has been blamed for that and now the crazy nanny is threatening to sue her. She wants people to know she was dealing with work , a sick mother, kids and her marraige was falling apart. The difference between her and Tiger Woods wife is she is an actress. Her career is very public.Tiger woods wife did not have a public career like Jen. Also, I totally agree that she has stayed married to keep from sending her kids off with her incompetent husband.

    • captain says:

      Yes, I think you got it. It is quite possible that to the bystander it seems like overdoing it, but truly guys, this is an awful, awful place she is in. She may be an actress, but her love was totally real, and her real heart is broken. Her mom is unwell, and on top of this, she is organizing work and children’s holiday schedules. Even with all the help in the world, this is just too much to bear.
      I guess, she is finally angry. Well, finally. It didn’t break her so far, and I hope she will come out of this the same nice person, but stronger and with more self-respect.
      And I’m glad she explained the nanny thing, how it all went. Not because I thought she hired her on purpose (that’s just silly, not to mention pointless), but because I couldn’t understand, why she okayed her leaving together with Affleck. Having said that, I hope she will stop with the press now.

  32. Know-it-all says:

    Not to be harsh on Jennofer because I have been quiet lately Ben should have foreseen this and not date this woman he clearly is a bad guy.I guess is a lesson to all of us women if he acts like a douchebag you avoid him atl cost

  33. cheryl says:

    Like most of you, I feel this is really laying the martyr mommy on thick. Step away from the trowel, Jen. In truth she needs none of this as she set up her image long ago and most people have bought in and made up their mind about her ex. I almost think there is some kind of pr addiction going on here for her where she must compulsively control her brand and the weak and rogue efforts of the nanny are driving her OTT. No one puts Jen into a pr corner, no one!

  34. Christin says:

    If Ben has no real friends (or however previous PR tidbit number 587 from this saga was worded), who were the 35 people at his BBQ party? Acquaintances who traveled there, or does he have a Georgia bro-ho pack?

    • notasugarhere says:

      If that really took place, maybe it was a planned summer party before all this hit? Or a thank you to the locals who have been good neighbors, not invaded their privacy, and allowed them some normalcy in the last 10 years. With a strong hint of, “And we hope you keep protecting our privacy through this difficult family experience.”

    • Ana says:

      He will always have “friends”. He has millions and he has gambling friends plus his stripper friends.

    • DodieTn says:

      He was interviewing for new nannies

  35. Misere says:

    The kids are always affected when a parent has substance abuse issues. Always be careful when getting involved with an addict. It’s the kids who will suffer the most.

  36. lucas says:

    As i have mentioned yesterday on another post here, Ben is back in town and had met with the nanny. Big announcement is expected: either he formally filed for divorce or admitting he is dating the nanny. We will see.

    Here is the link of his picture :
    http://m.x17online.com/entry/view/id/102356

    JG, be strong and we know that you are. You have 3 beautiful kids and a lot of people are on your side.

    • Christin says:

      I would not be surprised if he really is in contact with Alex — I mean, the nanny.

      This is part Gone Girl, part Fatal Attraction.

    • Red says:

      Jen already filed for divorce, remember? The day after their wedding anniversary.

  37. Luci says:

    First, and foremost, NEVER hire a cute, younger nanny. Second: Ben cheated on JLow, with Jennifer Garner. What made her think that he would treat her any better than he treated JLow? What goes around, comes back around and bites you in your ass!

    • Ana says:

      This is an old narrative already. You are late in that department.

    • Pondering thoughts says:

      Their children will have to live with Garner as their mother for the rest of their lives, too. As bitchy as this may sound I just don’t buy Garner’s jilted-wife-pity-me story. In the end Affleck was known to hide from Garner and I think she had a part in that.

      Garner married a man who cheated on his girlfriend / fiance. He hadn’t broken up with JLopez at the time, had he?
      And after marrying him Garner clinged to the marriage for dear life. And as she had been clinging for so long instead of breaking it up it is now Affleck who looks so bad.

      Bad Ben Good Jen? Nope!

      • Becks says:

        Did Garner commit adultery on her then husband, Scott Foley? Was it with Affleck?

        If she did, how did she get past that? In terms of her narrative, I mean?

      • Ennie says:

        Don’t forget how he went after Lopez even when she was very married, posting newspaper spreads.
        Garner went from Foley to Vartan to Affleck, and she was like a little child in a candy store when she was looking at BA in that show Dinner for Five, about Daredevil.
        HW is a very particular place.
        Foley was / is dreamy, and he does not seem to be as douchey as BA, but she wanted that.

  38. MAC says:

    Jen was not clueless she knew what she was married to and we all know it because of the pap walks with her innocent children.

    Ben and Jen made choices.
    As a child of divorce at the time I was a child I was a mess. As an adult I am so happy my parents are divorced. Hopefully the extended family will all pull together, mine choose sides and the entire family fell apart.

  39. Jayna says:

    It takes me back to Uma finally speaking out on her divorce with Ethan.

    .Although “I’ve been so cool for so long” – the split was “excruciating” and her self-esteem was “pretty mangled.”

    You can move on, and you can be lucky and you can seize the moment and you can take one step after another,” said a misty-eyed Thurman about coping with the break. But, she confided, “You bear two children with somebody – that’s not a small thing – and then you can hardly talk to them.”

    Still, she said she needs to speak to her ex for the sake of their kids. “I think that that’s such a priority to protect them and to never lose sight of the fact that even if you’re in a fight, or even if things are going badly, it’s in their best interests that everybody comes out okay,” she told Oprah.

    As for Hawke, Thurman said he is “moving on” with his life. “He’s made an effort, and I try to make an effort and, you know, we just keep trying.” But, added Thurman who is dating hotelier Andre Balazs, “I don’t think we could reconcile.”

    Though they talk, Thurman said communicating with her ex is “very difficult.” “We don’t have a lot of personal chats about how we’re doing … there’s a lot of unfinished damage and baggage and stuff that’s still in the way.”

    Last year, in an interview with Details magazine, Hawke shot down rumors that a reported affair with 22-year-old model Jen Perzow was what ended his marriage to Thurman. Calling the tabloid reports “annoying,” the actor said: “If our problems were that simple, we’d still be together.”

    “Regarding such rumors, Winfrey asked Thurman: “I’d read that there was some betrayal of some kind. Was there?” Replied Thurman: “There was some stuff like that at the end. We were having a difficult time, and you know how the axe comes down and how people behave and how people express their unhappiness. Our marriage failed. I should take full responsibility for the failure of my own marriage.”

    As her future relationship with Hawke, Thurman said: “I want to recognize him again. I want to see the guy that I married. I want to trust him, and I want to feel good and comfortable again.”

    • JoJo says:

      @ Jayna – Wow, to me, this is very powerful. I especially like how, years later, Uma has gained more meaningful perspective on their marriage and the end of it, etc. It doesn’t make what Ethan did or what Ben did right, but it’s absolutely true that as a marriage deteriorates over a long period of time, people often do bad things and act out in crazy or irrational ways in trying to deal – or not deal – with the situation. I like that, at this point, she is able to take some culpability for the end of the marriage as well. I see Ben/Jen this way too (perhaps a more extreme situation though.) Ben has definitely been or is perceived as the “active destroyer” of the marriage, but it always takes two – even in Ben/Jen’s case – and even if Jen’s part in the demise meant that she was the “inactive” destroyer – by passively staying and holding on and trying to change Ben many years longer than she probably should have. She was in denial and wanted to be “the one” for Ben so badly that she became an enabler. I don’t blame either one (although of course he’s responsible for the affairs!) Divorces and emotions can get very messy. I think Jen will [hopefully] also be able to see her part in the whole dynamic years from now too. It takes time to get this perspective.

      • frivolity says:

        Yes, with all of the therapy they supposedly had, I wonder why Jen continued to always be the co-dependent enabler. Hopefully, this has taught her a huge life lesson.

      • Jayna says:

        That interview was back in the end of 2005, about two, two and a half years after they split up. Time enough to gain some perspective on the marriage and the failing of it, but still raw in many ways. In 2008 he married their ex-nanny he had been seeing for a few years. I know when they split one of the big issues was Uma was really, really busy with her career and he had his, and I think he became resentful regarding that because in theory, with children, it didn’t really work with two driven people, one, the wife, at her peak workwise.

        I do think his cheating was just the reaction to being miserable at the end and wanting out and handling it very badly. They married young. She was seven months pregnant with their first child when they married after having only been dating like a year.

        What is interesting is many years later they were able to be on friendly terms again. She has had a baby several years back. I don’t know if she’s still with the father. Last year she and Ethan were both at the Sundance Festival for different movies. Their kids came and they even went skiing as a family and had lunch together. And recently there was a photo of her being friendly to him with their daughter out and about in NY.

        He and the ex-nanny have two children together and are still together. He swears the nanny didn’t break up the marriage. But it’s good to see that he and Uma at some point were able to forge some kind of friendly relations again and that some of the wounds healed, because I think it benefits the kids.

  40. Paloma says:

    Wow, if she’s dealing with an ill mother and stinking husband at the same time, I really feel for her. These situations really make you grow as a person. Hopefully, she knows that one day she will get ahead of all this, and her world will right itself.

  41. frances egan says:

    jennifer garner should not let this scheming nanny destroy her family don’t give her that power
    men are sometimes vulnerable to heartless homewreckers she just isn’t worth ruining her family unit over the nanny is a nobody opportunist and jennifer garner is a beautiful and talented
    women who ben loves it’s a bump in the road

    • Neah23 says:

      Delusion is straight in this one😵😵😵😳😲😲😲😱😱😳😳😩😩😞😞😞

    • Jayna says:

      The others might have been a bump in the road. I think this time they’ve gone off into the ditch.

    • Neah23 says:

      Ben is not a victim but a grown a$$ man who made the choice to cheat on his wife with the nanny. Cheating is not a bump in the road in a marriage or relationship.

      You would be the person saying who cares if he hits you he loves it’s just a bump in the road stay with him.

  42. I like meat in my mouth says:

    “Their” kids, not only “her”.

    • DTX says:

      He isn’t much of a dad and hasn’t been for a long time. I bet he sees them as primarily HER responsibility or “problem” too.

  43. frivolity says:

    Well, reading more carefully what Celebitchy revealed above, it seems Jennifer was initially following lock-step with Ben on the amicable split narrative for PR purposes, and probably to protect her children. Because of Ben’s most recent infidelity with opportunistic nanny, the happy PR story blew up in Jen’s face, so she decided to set the record straight.

    I hope Jen has learned from her mistakes and instead of marrying a complete douchebag with whom she has an immature infatuation (which she may have thought was love), she learns what a real, mature, loving relationship really is. That kind of model of a relationship would also really help her children.

    Ben will continue to make his stupid mistakes and be raked over the coals. We all know that Ben didn’t make a lot of time for the family before. He only pretended to do so after the initial divorce announcement for PR’s sake. Now that the jig is up, Jen should probably take the kids and leave L.A. to have a simpler and more private life – make movies when it’s convenient, and stop talking to the press.

    Still can’t understand why she stayed with Ben for so long and kept getting pregnant, but what’s done is done. She needs to finally grow up now for her kids’ sake, because Ben never will.

    Hope her mom’s okay.

    • Anne says:

      Just wondering – is there a couple in the public eye that you (or anyone) would point to as a good example of a “real, mature loving relationship?” There must be some, no?

  44. Sam Morales says:

    Men cheat, women need to get over it.

  45. ladyg says:

    I’ve got some silly conspiracy theories about the Affleck-Garner divorce. Several. None of which mesh. Basically, ridiculous, no way could it be remotely accurate, fan fiction. But who doesn’t love a good conspiracy theory. So, here goes.

    Possibility #1: Performance art. The nanny is in on it, and that’s why she’s laughing all the way to the bank. Jen and she are actually tight and cackle at night over how “We’re FOOLING the world!” It’s all actually a high-concept art project curated by Violet; she goes to a fancy school where book reports are so yesterday. In the end, Jen will do a “golly shucks,wasn’t that fun” interview with Good Housekeeping or something, and end with the quote, “Well, it’s all about the kids now, isn’t it.”

    Possibility#2:Ben really does love the nanny. LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!

    Possibility#3:Ben and the nanny could be drug buddies?

  46. Tammy says:

    I’m confused… she knew about the nanny prior to announcing their plans to divorce on June 30? Why, on earth, would she put forth such a ridiculous narrative and timeline that they were separated for 10 months, that Ben was staying in a guest house on the property to coparent when she considered this the ultimate act of betrayal? No one else sees this as odd? So what made her change her mind in three weeks?

    Kind of makes me wonder about how the news about him cheating on her with nanny broke. Who told the tabloids?

    • captain says:

      It is odd, you’re right. Not only she said 10 month separation, she also talked about him living on property and did a lot of staged photos with him and children.
      I don’t believe this was an ultimate betrayal for her, he has probably cheated so much in this marriage, this was just another one. But the public humiliation of the story coming out was the breaking point for her.
      But you know, she can’t say this. That she would have gone along with this uncoupling thing and covered everything up, were it not for this nanny parading herself in a hotel and giving interviews. It makes Jennifer look like a fool, especially thinking of her smiles and his depressed look in family outing photos.

  47. meow says:

    When I read this kind of stuff I just thank God it’s not me. Hi ho hey hey the single life for me.
    This stuff is a nightmare on elm street.

  48. Katie says:

    All kids from divorced families have to deal with it for the rest of their lives. And children of children from divorced families have to deal with it too.

  49. JoJo says:

    @Tammy – From this week’s accounts, it now appears (or at least Jen’s camp is saying) that Jen had “suspicions” about Ben and the nanny starting all the way back in the spring. But these new reports claim it was when she learned that Ben was with the nanny in Vegas (which haooened on a weekend during their Bahamas trip) that she fired the nanny and then they announced right after, on 6/30.

    Everyone – I’m actually still confused though. By these new accounts, Jen knew about the (alleged) nanny affair and the extent of it when they announced their separation. So, why was Jen still ok with Ben being in the Atlanta guest house and still wearing her ring all of these weeks after 6/30? When she clearly already knew about everything with the nanny?! Is it only because it leaked to the press that she’s changed her tune? I don’t get it…

    • aga says:

      For Jen the image and public perception is much more important than her, her husband’s and her family’s happiness. She was capable to accept his extra-marital affairs as far as it is in hiding. I’m almost sure that she considered the reconciliation, it’s why Ben went to Atlanta. He was simple between two woman, probably dumped the nanny, counted on the forgiveness from Jen and all would be like always. Unfortunately for them the angry nanny wasn’t going to remain silent.

    • db says:

      I bet it’s because the Afflecks didn’t take into consideration that Nanny Bunny Boiler would go to the press so they lost control of their controlled marital demolition.

  50. Jayna says:

    Could this be true? It’s not confirmed but Denofgeek often has reliable stuff. Ben is going to be one busy man. I guess his pesky little nanny-fame-ho issues aren’t slowing him down.

    “Warner Bros clearly has big plans for its growing DC movie universe, with next year’s Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice and Suicide Squad to be followed by Justice League, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman. There’s also the small matter of Ben Affleck’s stand-alone Batman film, which he’ll write and direct. We’ve now heard, however, that Affleck’s role in the DC movies is about to get even bigger.

    According to an industry source who will remain anonymous, a cut of Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice was screened for the film’s crew and Warner bosses within the past 24 hours or so. “It’s a near finished cut but not locked,” our source tells us.

    That screening was, we’re told, a glowing success – to the point where Zack Snyder’s movie received a “standing ovation.”

    Warner is said to be so impressed with Affleck’s performance as Batman that it’s apparently in the process of making an extended, “Golden deal”, which could see the actor play the Caped Crusader in a trilogy of stand-alone movies, not the single outing already announced.

    All told, this deal could see Affleck in the role of Batman for the next 10 years or so.
    “Basically, Warners are now working their movie universe around Ben’s Batman,” our source says. As far as Warner’s bosses are concerned, Affleck is considered to be the “definitive Batman” and could be the hub around which the DC movie universe will rotate in future movies.

    Of course, this is all unconfirmed at this point, but if there’s truth to the story, it’s likely that an official confirmation will emerge fairly soon. We’ll keep you posted as and when we hear more.”

    • Neah23 says:

      Don’t you mean his affair, but then again your one of ones putting it mostly if not all on the nanny and treats Ben like a victim.

      • Jayna says:

        Ben a victim? Get over yourself and your analysis of me. I wouldn’t be surprised if Ben set the nanny up to apply for the job. His issues aren’t the affair, which I think Jen would have kept quiet. We, the public, would never have known. It would be kept quiet like Jen kept other affairs quiet.

        His issue is that we all now know and the rags because Ms. Fame-Ho keeps selling stories and setting up pap shots. That is his issue, trying to shut her up, and all his damage control because of it. No one is giving him a pass on having an affair even if separated, because it was in Jen’s house, as I’ve said often, and horrible treatment of Jen, as I’ve said on here, and that it was a horrible betrayal of Jen to sleep with someone in Jen’s employ making a fool of her by her own husband and employee, if you read my posts. He was unhappily married and wanted out, but he chose a very selfish and destructive way to end it.

        But the fame-ho nanny is the one who is out there daily setting up stories. So until he shuts her up, his nanny issues will keep on being in the spotlight.

      • Neah23 says:

        O please you send half you comments lately just trash talking the from, her looks, to her clothes and family. Then Thierry is your passive-aggressive comments about JLO when people bring her up.

    • Luca76 says:

      And here is the heart of the matter for Ben. Divorce before all that Batman money comes in isn’t he delightful.

  51. db says:

    Face it BA. Your PR is totally outclassed by JG AND Nanny Ho-bag, and what’s amazing is, the harder he tries to front as the poor misunderstood good guy, the more he looks like a jackass.

    • Enui says:

      Pretty much. He has a long history of being super passive aggressive, or self-destructing so that the woman he is dating (Goop, JLo, JG) dump him. He then does his “aw shucks” routine, goes to rehab for a while and then comes back.

      No matter how they got together (and in real life, I’ve known women who got pg and then got married, people who had failed marriages then got married, etc), they were together over ten years and have three kids. They are real people with real feelings, and kids who they most likely want to buffer from this as much as possible.

      If JG wants a husband in the future, I hope JG manages to find herself a great sexy, funny caring guy and gets married and has an amazing life with him– and BA will continue to be a douche with mommy issues. Hope it doesn’t rub off on the kids. I wouldn’t wish him on anyone. Once he has something or someone, it isn’t good enough anymore. The guy makes a life out of being the tortured artist.

  52. JoJo says:

    @Jayna – What are your thoughts on this new timeline? Now that it turns out that Jen already knew about the nanny when they announced their separation. Why was she pushing the ‘we’ll live together in LA and Brooke Shields rented house’ narrative and still wearing her ring through all of this? When she knew the whole time what had been going on? Now, all of a sudden she’s acting outraged about something she already knew about when they announced? Why do you think this is? Simply because it leaked, she has to sing a different tune? Something’s not making sense …. What are your thoughts?

    • Diane says:

      It was said in one of the two articles it was because of the revelation that the relationship had continued on after the firing – which she only found out when the photo was put out there. I’m sure there are many deeper revelations behind that for which we do not have details.

    • Jayna says:

      I need Celebitchy to do a flowchart with timelines and arrows, because all the different stories coming out have me completely confused.

      But I think Diane is right. She was still holding everything close to the vest until the photo came out and it showed there was ongoing interaction with the nanny, which I don’t know why she’s surprised, but maybe Ben was selling her a different story. Or maybe seeing the photo sent her over the edge and felt like a fool and then the nanny is selling info and photos and it put Jennifer in a humiliating position. The nanny smiling away at the photogs had to send her over the edge. So then that’s when she came out with her side of it, like enough is enough. But before that was she going to cover as usual to put on a face to their relationship even in separation that was not true? She does baffle me.

      But, honestly, I am very confused with it all as far as Jen and what was really going on behind the scenes with them and the narrative she was giving to the public about living on the same grounds together.

      I need a flowchart and timeline. LOL

  53. JoJo says:

    @Diane – Yeah, I did see that mention earlier this week. Honestly, this really makes me question Jen even more. She was aware of their inappropriate behavior and indiscretions, including being in Vegas together(!), but it only became “not ok” when she saw that Ben was continuing on JUST AS HE ALWAYS WAS, after she fired the nanny?! I already knew this earlier this week, so I don’t know why it’s all just sinking in now. Info overload, I guess. But this really makes me lose more respect for Jen. If you take these new accounts at face value, then Jen was still considering/hoping to give the marriage another shot (hence the ring!) all the way up until last week! Even knowing about what happened with the nanny previously. The reports today even say that only now she has given up all hope of reconciling. The whole thing – and the whole weird, changing timeline – is bizarre. It’s like Jen is only now lashing out because she no longer has control of Ben and the situation – Ben continued on seeing the nanny after Jen fired her, which Jen was appalled at. So, clearly Jen thought there was still a shot with Ben until just days or a week ago … This again seems to point to what I’ve always said – Jen STILL wanted to be with Ben, even after they announced the divorce! Unless I’m somehow missing something here…

    • Jayna says:

      I think she still wanted to be with Ben. I think she doesn’t know how to give him up. She’s done with him because he’s not giving an inch and wants out, but if he gave an inch and said he wanted to work it out, knowing all she knows, I still think she would have. But all this rubbing everything into her face publicly, where she can’t hide from it and pretend to the world it’s different, and clearly Ben royally self-destructing any chance for the relationship, which I think is on purpose because she keeps clinging on, gives her no out but to admit it’s done.

    • Diane says:

      I lived with my husband for 10 years, 3 kids. He was a compulsive gambler, alcoholic, liar, all of it. I am a very strong woman and I kept believing him when he would “get caught” and would profess with tears and heartfelt pleas that he had learned his lesson and would change. You really, really want to believe that for your kids. It also creates a very unhealthy, co-dependent mind-set. There literally had to come a time when he finally did something that crossed some kind of line in my mind, heart, emotions where I realized that he was truly a danger to me and my kids and we needed out. It took counseling and friends to keep me moving forward to re-establish myself as a healthy individual. I believe she is strong, and I do believe that this was the line that had to be crossed in her mind, heart and emotion that it was done. I can really, really relate and understand that it is an intensely personal line that no one can point you to. When you’ve become part of that cycle over many years, you get lost in the abyss of it. It’s looks cut and dried from the outside, but it’s the same kind of concept as to why women stay in abusive relationships when it seems obvious they should get out. When you are in it, it just is NOT so cut and dried. After you are out for a while, you can see clearly and wonder why you didn’t see it sooner.

      • Ennie says:

        Sadly, he has an addiction problem, limited resources and probably, enablers, with the (seemingly) exception of his wife, who probably viewed gambling as a hobby of his… really even eminent changed his bad habits for addiction to exercise, and tried to find a happy medium.
        It can be done, he has to reach his bottom. Divorcing and not seeing his children every day, he probably sees that as taking a freedom break instead of reaching a bad point in his life.

      • Ennie says:

        I meant unlimited resources

  54. Emily C. says:

    An “inadequate” husband is one who doesn’t do his share of the housework. Ben was an utterly atrocious husband, a total failure, a bomb. Ben was the Gigli of husbands.

    • Christin says:

      The Maya A. quote comes to mind — When someone shows you who they are, believe them (the first time).

  55. JoJo says:

    Thanks @Jayna and @Diane. @Jayna – I’m still not convinced they’re completely over. People is now saying this afternoon that they still talk every day, not just about the kids but about each other. Who knows at this point! Ugh. But I just still can’t help but to feel like, if he grovels enough, she would still take him back. As you said, I think the only thing probably preventing that is that he wants out of the marriage (that is, if he still does) and the fact that she now has to deal with public humiliation. Wow – what a tangled web. But at this point, with these new stories, I think it should be pretty clear to everyone that Jen was a willing conspirator in covering this whole thing up and even in wanting to potentially stay with him all the way up until now – if not still!

    • Maia says:

      I agree with your analysis. In fact I would go a step further to suggest that Jen is the one who may be throwing Ben under the bus here. I will explain below. Firstly I may be the only person on the planet who does not believe that he has a gambling/pill addiction. I simply do not see any evidence. I do believe that he was absent from the household and spent precious time gambling and indulging in his hobbies when Jennifer expected him to be at home to put the kids to bed. This led to a vicious cycle of unpleasantness which ultimately led to the breakdown of the marriage. This I believe. I do believe that he is a selfish jerk who loves his kids but expects Jennifer to shoulder the responsibility of raising them at the cost of her career. I also believe that he flirts with other women which puts Jen on the defensive, causing her to be insecure and taking the fun out of the relationship. I can also be persuaded that he did sleep around once and got caught but I do not believe anything Lainey says about drugs and women in Canada. I think that it is particularly significant that Jennifer and Ben DID get sex counselling at some point very very early on in the relationship – I think that this suggests that there were some pretty huge issues that they were dealing with right from the outset. I can totally see that their relationship was tedious and hard work right from day one. So given that I think that I can believe that he may have slept with someone even though there is absolutley zero evidence on that.
      Coming back to the present: as JoJo says: the stories simply don’t add up. I don’t think that Ben slept with the nanny. I think that he confided in her, told her things he probably should not have, and generally compromised the sanctity of his marriage but I don’t think that he slept with her. I think that Jen is taking out her rage on Ben now by not confirming this fact and going to the press with all these contradictory stories on the timeline – none of which makes any sense.
      So to summarize I think that Ben was a dog and an idiot and took advantage of Jen, but I really don’t see any concrete evidence on all the things people are attributing to him. Gambling women drugs etc etc – there is no photographs, no confirmation of any of that. If this was true there would be something. And this ridiculous nanny does not count – she is clearly a horribel liar. What would we believe?
      Their relationship was uphill from the beginning. Sex counselling 2 years into the marriage – I mean, this is HUGE. How many relationships can go the distance after that ?

      ETA: Anyway, all this to say: if all I have written is true it would explian why Jennifer hangs on to the relationship like this. She thinks that Ben will change and become invested in the marriage again.

  56. Christin says:

    Someone posted this link the other day, and I cannot un-see it. According to a CBS News article, this was recorded post-Bennifer, but pre-marriage/Violet. Apparently these two have some type of on-air history, but I personally find it cringe-worthy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEz_TCK1Z4

    • lolab says:

      omg, that’s the real Ben Affleck, in all his frat-boy, liquored-up, date rapey glory. God, he’s gross.

    • Tate says:

      Yuck. Could only make it 20 seconds in.

    • Illyra says:

      Garner knew exactly, *exactly* what she was getting. She just thought he would change for her, even though he’d never changed for anyone else. Talk about EGO!

  57. Fawzeya says:

    Jennifer Garner would not be in this predicament ifshe hadn’t become Knocked up just like Reese Witherspoon… Birthcontrol was invented in the 1970″ s. There’s. NO. Excuse!!!

    • Emily C. says:

      No birth control is 100% effective. Sorry. Also, it’s not like she was alone in that bed.

    • Diane says:

      Woulda, shoulda, coulda. How many things would be all change if we had hindsight and could go back. And, there’s only one method of BC that is 100%.

    • ann says:

      Like Gwyneth, and Matt Damon’s wife, and Angelina, and Faith and Bridgete.

      • Fawzeya says:

        I believe Garner & Witherspoon both became pregnant on purpose as they thought THEY could change the man they were dating… They needed to SETTLE DOWN… those including Goop were DELUSIONAL

    • Illyra says:

      Truth hurts…

      I think people who have “whirlwind romances” and quick weddings are NUTS. Within that short an amount of time, you *cannot* know a person well enough to tell if it’s a good bet for a long-term relationship. Getting married while your hormones are still running wild is like going grocery shopping on an empty stomach when you’re trying to lose weight: dumb as hell.

      He was a p*ssy hound, cheater, boozer and gambler when she first met him. Yeah he’s an adult, but so is she… the disastrous end result is just as much a result of her poor judgment as his.

      • aga says:

        But paradoxically , the “big love story”, “love at first sight” is supported by our culture, the media, books, fairy tales and romantic comedies, etc. We as the public support more the celebrity couples who got pregnant quite fast and then got married than the couples who were dating for example 2-3 years before getting hitched. We quite easily buy their stories about “the biggest love ever” although it’s obvious that they are together because the woman got knocked up.

      • Illyra says:

        “But paradoxically , “the big love story” , “love at first sight” is supported by our culture, the media, books, fairy tales and romantic comedies, etc.”

        Yes, I agree. People have ridiculous, totally unrealistic expectations (fueled by the culture/media) that are just setting them up for disappointment.

      • kibbles says:

        Yes, it was a whirlwind romance but Garner had her sights on him and a baby+marriage was her end game a decade ago. She was in her early 30s and had already been married when she got with Affleck. She never became pregnant when she was with Foley even though both are fertile and have been able to reproduce. She did not want to get pregnant with Foley. Getting pregnant with Affleck was probably not a mistake. She wanted to keep him and marry him.

      • Illyra says:

        Yep, she was obsessed with him for ages and the pregnancy was no “accident”. Is anyone really naive enough to believe that it was?

    • Alice says:

      The Pill – 1960. IUDs – late 50’s. Condoms – much earlier.

  58. Diane says:

    Don’t minimize just how damaging and destructive is an addictive/co-dependent relationship. They have had YEARS to perfect the cycle and in the midst of it cannot see it for what it is. He does something. She reacts a certain way, and they move on. Things are nice for a while. He does something again (he’s an addict). She reacts the same way as before, and they move on again. This has–I can say with the certainty of someone who has lived it–been going on for a long time and it has become as natural as breathing to them. Also, the bar keeps getting pushed. He’s a gambler. He got way with A, then B, then C. He’s moving up the alphabet and each thing is worse. It eventually leads to a traumatic point for both of them, because it IS unhealthy and neither get anything really good out of the pattern. I think that’s where they are. He’s not getting the same feel-good from the behavior and so is less tolerant of her same-as-before responses. The pattern is breaking up and it is causing stress and off-the-cuff responses in both. They are both out of the comfort zone of the pattern — ultimately not a bad thing. The only healthy thing for both of them is to recognize the unhealthy patterns and get help to come back to a normal place. If he is unwilling to acknowledge his addictions, then the only thing she can do is separate herself and learn to be a healthy, clear-thinking individual again. She can’t help him (though her pattern worked in the past). Make sense? It took a long time for me to see this for what it was in my life, but it is very clear now. I learned a lot about the pattern in Gam-Anon meetings – there are some very wise people there.

    • ninal says:

      This was the best commentary on this story and is non-judgemental and cuts through all the smoke and mirrors. Thank you.

    • captain says:

      Thanks very much, this is such an insightful and compassionate assessment.

    • Tara says:

      I too love your insights Diane. You sound like a strong, lovely woman.

  59. jccw says:

    People magazine saying the affair has been going on almost a year??

  60. Renae Says says:

    My guess is that both camps are pretty tight lipped on the truth so all the stories being printed are pure speculation that has everyone gasping and hanging on every word. Ben looks like a douche and Jen probably just got tired of living with an a-hole. Good girls love to love bad boys. Same story with the same ending.

    • aga says:

      I would agree with you if Jen’s team hasn’t been cooperate with “People” before. It’s too much detailed to be some BS from tabloids.

  61. CF98 says:

    They both leave a lot to be desired I don’t think much of either of them but at least BA is called out for his crap so he bothers me less I guess.

    Team Kids.

  62. Bitca says:

    “This was the ultimate passive aggressive move by Affleck….”

    And Garner is NOT being passive-aggressive, with all of this after-the-fact PR management? She put up with his creeping as though they were Bill & Hillary. But since the nanny’s proved to be way too thirsty, it’s okay to blanket the media with stories about the Devastation of JG, & give the story far more traction – which makes the split infinitely harder on the kids.

    Also, to suggest Affleck deliberately did something this stupid to effect a break makes no sense at all, as they were already, finally, proceeding to separate when he did Thirsty Nanny. [More likely, this ordinary-but-willing younger chick was a flashing “Party Here” sign to a vain, aging actor trying to escape the pressure & resentment of a long-pending divorce].

    While Garner is clearly the injured party, she is also supposed to be a “good parent,” right? Yet this whole biz of punishing her ex at 2nd-hand via the tabloids seems a strange way to protect your tween daughters from the fallout of a failed marriage.
    **Finishes rant; exits 😉 **

  63. lolab says:

    I think it’s really hard to judge them because we are using gossip tid-bits, and attributing them directly and literally to these two people as if it’s first hand source material. Who knows who’s leaking what, or whatever. The only thing you can really judge here is that the very least Ben is not very protective of his public image, and shows a carelessness that would make me very nervous if I was banking money on him to front big projects.

  64. Ai says:

    I hope the Ben’s batman any things flop sooooo hard; as a big fan of batman…. Never of fan of him taking on the role.

  65. Ana says:

    So Affleck is in ATL right now with kids doing his “daddy duty ” but the face says it all, the usual sourface. I don’t think he enjoys it.

    It is his bday next week so he is doing his service now so he can party next weekend? That would be horrible if he is with the fame ho nanny. There must be something there because he could not shut her up.

    • Jets says:

      Are there photos of him right now in Atlanta with his kids? Is Jen with them again? This is all so sad and pathetic at this point… I feel like it’s going to get even worse before it get s better. What are the chances Ben comes out and admits to having a relationship with the nanny and professes his love for her, would he be so bold, would people find it repulsive or brave? I wonder how this is all going to end for all parties.

      • Jets says:

        I just saw the pics on JustJared, he’s got a full on beard now, looks like he aged 10 years. He doesn’t look as “grumpy” as he has, at least not in these photos, i’m sure there will be more photos later this weekend to analyze, since he’s doing his “daddy duty” for show before he parties next weekend.
        I just hope that Jen doesn’t take him back, after all that’s been revealed and the humiliation she’s endured, if she takes him back she’ll like a fool, the same fool that put up with his shit for years. I hope all she’s doing is just “facilitating his visits with the kids” because i’m sure they miss their dad and they don’t understand what’s going on. But the day she actually files for divorce will be the day that I actually believe that she is really done, ready to move on and never looking back.

      • Jayna says:

        I just went and looked at the photos Jets is talking about. He and Jennifer are together getting out of a car. I think they were going into a mall. It said the kids were with them. According to the article, they both had their wedding rings on.

        What a mess they are.

  66. Know-it-all says:

    Oh please this nanny is a decoy for the real story what does true love mean accepting someone with your whole heart despite knowing their flaws who wrote true love who keeps hugging her kid everytime Ben does something bad to Jennifer Garner.For the wise you understand the rest just wait for things to unravel

  67. Mrs Odie says:

    Any other mommies who recognize Samuel’s “I need comfort” hand on the top of mom’s boob? My four year old still does this if she’s nervous or needs soothing for any reason.

  68. JoJo says:

    O.M.G. This is all such a mess. Both still wearing their rings. Truly pathetic. Is anyone finally going to believe what I’ve been saying all along?? The fact that them staying together isn’t all that crazy after all? I still don’t think Jen is done with him – if he grovels, she’ll take him back. I’ve said it all along. Jen is all about … Ben, no matter what. Always has been. Gone Girl – Nick and Amy. Agh!

    • Luca76 says:

      I honestly don’t think she’s the one that ended it I firmly believe he’s the one that wants out. Especially after these photos.

  69. candice says:

    There are additional photos on Zimbio of them at the mall with all 3 kids and a picture really does tell a thousand words! At least one shot shows some of the pap photographers and gives you an idea of how intimidating it must be for the kids being swarmed and followed like that. Inside the mall, there are several photos of them going down an escalator and it is apparent that the family knows they are being snapped — the younger girl stuck out her tongue lol.

    Edit: I was surprised they had no security detail or entourage whatsoever.

    Jen looks worn out and fed up as do the kids IMO – even the little guy.

    • Jayna says:

      I went on Zimbio and looked at the photos. Seventy-seven. They must have just been snapping them every second. How annoying.

      Some observations.

      Ben is trying to look at Jen several times, making eye contract. Jen makes zero eye contact with him until the end while they are waiting for the valet and one of their kids is saying something funny. Jen is usually all smiles and looking at Ben on her pap walks. Not once this time, except at the very end. And it looked like Ben was trying to show they get along by looking at her for interaction, and she wasn’t having it, just looking off or at the kids She does look very exhausted and drained.

      Violet adores her daddy and has always had such an attachment to him. I’ve always noticed how she loves to hold his hand. Sera is the spitfire of the group and always has been, making faces at the paps. She’s a little comical mess. It was so cute when Samuel had his arms wrapped around Sera. With Sam up on Ben’s shoulders, I thought one time he was going to pull his hair system off. LOL

      It’s just sad looking at a family breaking up and realizing how much the kids will miss as a family unit with mom and dad no longer together and them splitting up while they are so young. Sam won’t remember them together. It’s necessary, but it’s sad. When you have a career like Ben’s, which is about to get even busier and off on locations, having the divorce means he will really miss even more time with the kids. Jen went to his filming location a lot with the kids or him coming home on the weekends. But his weekend time will now be split and more structured. One day maybe they can get back to friendly relations like Seal and Heidi did, where they sit together at games watching their kids.

      • Jets says:

        Jayna – I felt the same way looking at the pics, Ben is trying to get some reaction from Jen, looking at her more trying to make eye contact, but she isn’t giving in, she knows it’s all for show, it’s insincere, it’s not genuine, next week he’ll be back with his nanny. Glad Jen’s staying the course, she needs to move on, she is doing the right thing by divorcing him, I’m sure she has no doubt about that now.
        I hope they can be friends someday, a few years from now, far removed from this time. But I kind of see them being like Sean Penn and Robin Wright, who are almost like strangers now despite being together for 20 years, Sean even bashes her in interviews, for some reason I kind of see Ben being this way too, especially when Jen starts to date again and is in a serious relationship, and it’s a good and healthy one, I can see Ben being pissed especially if his relationships become a revolving door.

  70. jccw says:

    Wow…just saw on a couple different sites that the infamous nanny is in Atlanta too. Sad if true, for the poor children.

    • Jayna says:

      I don’t believe that for a second. If Warner Brothers wants him to fix this and Jen is barely talking to him, he is NOT going to fly into Atlanta with said nanny. He isn’t that dumb. He barely got Jen out for this pap walk, I imagine.

  71. FWIW says:

    This looks like a photo op. I think Warner Bros. told Ben to fix this and get Jen and kids together for a “family” message that gives an illusion that they are making peace. I think the studio thought things were getting out of control. Also, we haven’t heard from the nanny so WB wanted her stopped. Hush money.

    What a mess Ben Affleck is. Jennifer has a Hollywood career so she has to play along to a certain extent but you can see the stress all over her face.

    • Luca76 says:

      He’s rumored to have signed on for 3 more Batman movies in the next 10 years that’s ALOT of money. The studio needs a few women to be willing to see his movies. He has to make nice with Jen and she’s going along because she likes to keep up appearances she doesn’t ‘ have to’ though. The tone of last weeks stories show how much more power she has in the press than Ben . I think she is doing it because she naively thinks she can get Ben to behave. I have a feeling he won’t he really wants out and I do believe more will come out eventually.

    • Jayna says:

      I agree. And “illusion” is spot on,

      Regarding the nanny, she’s gone quiet for a couple of days before and pops back up. If he’s smart, he will pay her off big time and end that circus. If he is still seeing her even with all of her fame-hoing going on with the paps and stories, then his mid-life crisis is full-blown and disgusting, since the nanny is selling stories at the expense of his children and the mother of his children. But she’s 28 and he might be delusional about it all because his second brain is doing the thinking. If that’s the case, his lack of character is hitting a new low.

  72. Jets says:

    I went and bought the USweekly, and let me tell you it will anger you when you read it, People magazine ‘s coverage was tame and “fair” even though they tried to show both sides but primarily focused on Jen’s struggle and pain. But USWeekly, pulled out the punches, you can almost feel Jen’s anger when reading it. After reading it and then seeing the paparazzi pics today of the whole family together, I don’t get the sense that Jen wants him back, everything she is doing is for the kids, the “source” says they will continue their family outings because that is what the kids are accustomed to, they are too young to understand what’s going on, she’s trying to establish a sense of normalcy, we may not agree with it, but it’s incredibly unselfish of her to do this, especially with this humiliating scandal splashed everywhere, according to the supermarket I bought the magazine at, magazines about their divorce and his cheating are selling really well. Ben thought the tabloid frenzy of Bennifer 1.0 was bad, that was nothing, THIS nanny scandal is horrible, and speaks directly to his character, it’s very, very damaging.
    Many here are of the opionion that Jen still wants him back, I don’t think so not after reading this, these family outings are for the kids, not her. As strong as Jen is physically, I admire her will power to refrain from punching him in the face, not that I condone violence, but ladies, he is scum and what he did and is continuing to do is reprehensible. He is protecting his mistress not his children or the mother of his children, that is unforgivable.

    • Jayna says:

      Ben wanted out and I think still wants out and is glad it’s ending. But I was wavering,thinking maybe she does want him back if he said he would try. But after seeing the photos on Zimbio of Jennifer, I agree. He has humiliated her in a way that’s unforgivable and she’s just doing what she has to publicly at the bare minimum and interacting with him a little as a family for the kids’ sake. I will have to pick up the US Weekly when I go grocery shopping

    • Luca76 says:

      Calling the paparazzi to see these family outings in the suburbs of Atlanta where there aren’t paps strolling through malls on a Saturday afternoon is inherently selfish, she is in all likelihood a loving mother but that isn’t in the best interest of the kids. This photo op benefits Ben and his Warner Brother deal.

      • Tara says:

        Wouldn’t it make sense that Ben is the one calling them then, or is that too much logic?

      • aga says:

        This photo shoots are obviously organized by Ben, but now it only shows his completely lack of respect fir his wife and kids, encouraging your children to smile for paparazzi is reprehensible. And they both don’t have any self-respect and honor.
        He should take his kids for one or two weeks’ holiday (without paparazzi) and shows Jen and us that he is trustworthy and responsible man.

        P.S.
        I must admit that I am sometimes jealous of Ben and Jen’s fans, they have so many photos of their family.

      • Luca76 says:

        Garner agreed to a photo-op. I’m so sick of everyone canonizing her. She’s clearly on board with the photo ops to benefit Ben as she has been for years.

    • Maia says:

      I don’t think that Ben cheated and Jen knows it. Hence the outings. The ‘nanny scandal’ has been manufactured by the press and the nanny and it is quite unbelievable to me that the public is going along with it.

  73. FWIW says:

    The Zimbio pictures show a more alive Ben Affleck while in the company of Jen and kids that we haven’t seen for a while. It’s obvious he got the message that people noticed his grumpy/unhappy face while with his family. The guy is trying to clean up his image big time! Wow his change in demeanor is so obvious. I feel for the kids. They do look happy in this outing … happy to be with mom and dad. He didn’t let go of their hands throughout the mall. This outing has Ben and his PR team’s hand all over it.

    As for Jen, she loves her kids and I think she will do anything to put a smile on their faces.

  74. Ana says:

    Here are my bullet points of speculations as I am so invested on them. Lol!

    – WB could have ordered Ben to go to AtL for photo ops. Yes, Batman got a standing ovation by WB but those are the suits, not the general public. Of course, they would say it was excellent and hence, 3 more projects for Affleck but suspended temporarily his Live By Night and pushed back release date of The Accountant. It makes sense right? But, if you want to look at it closely, the WB suits could be worried because of the scandal.

    – JG seems done and I hope so. Maybe she is just playing along for this photo op as a favor to WB. If I were her, I would exchange this favor for 3 big WB movies. She deserves it for helping Ben out again. 😉

    – he is in Atlanta now so that on his birthday maybe he can be with the midget nanny. This is my horrible conspiracy theory. Let me be….lol!

    – Last, I really dislike Ben because not once (as far as I have read and correct me if I am wrong) NOT ONCE did he defend his family since this scandal started. He denied the affair. He targeted JG and called her a nagging b3tch! He is all for himself while the fame ho is enjoying her stay at Hotel Bel Air. She could be in ATL for all that we know and if, the BBQ really happened, she could have been there as well.

    Thank you all for having this site so I can vent. I am Team Jen (horrible, terrible and not so good shoes) and kids for the win and sorry, if I offended some of you with my rant. 😪😂😭 All speculations….

    • Tara says:

      Excellent speculations and observations Ana. I have left a plate of cookies in the corner.

  75. elisha says:

    Oh, I think someone’s pregnant here, and it’s not Christine. Jen looks pregnant to me. Looks like she has a bump here: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/jennifer-garner-verge-tears-phone-call-article-1.2300758

    She’s wearing big swingy shirts (like here: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ben-affleck-jennifer-garner-step-out-in-atlanta-wearing-wedding-rings-201588)

    And falling down pants that remind me of my maternity pants that wouldn’t stay up. None of them stay up because the elastic gets stretched out. http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FFN_Garner_Jennifer_FF2GRI_080115_51813485_edited-1-796×1024.jpg

    • Alice says:

      I don’t see any bump and the jeans are pretty snug; it’s hot, hot, hot in ATL and one wears loose clothing to let air circulate; all of my pants do the same slippage when I forget to wear a belt.

  76. Caz says:

    This marriage should gave ended a few years ago. For the sake of the older children. No sympathy for Garner & Affleck. Both continued for their selfish purposes. My only sympathy is for the kids.

  77. Jayna says:

    From the NY Daily News

    “Ben Affleck’s nanny has turned into his worst nightmare. Affleck’s ex-employee Christine Ouzounian — who was fired by the actor’s estranged wife, Jennifer Garner, after learning of the duo’s alleged affair — is enjoying her 15 minutes of fame so much that she is looking to extend it with a tell-all TV interview. That is, if things don’t work out with the “Batman” hunk.

    “She has been offered several interviews, including paid appearances on ‘Dr. Phil’ and ‘Entertainment Tonight,’ ” a source with knowledge of the talks tells Confidenti@l. “These two outlets often pay for access and, at the moment, no one is a bigger get than her (Ouzounian).”

    So far, Ouzounian, who is living it up at the Hotel Bel-Air in Los Angeles, allegedly on Affleck’s dime, hasn’t committed to either interview. She hopes to have a future with Affleck and has made that clear to producers seeking interviews. “She doesn’t want to burn the relationship completely,” says our source.

    But she’s also toying with Affleck, we hear. Last week the naughty nanny happened to be captured frolicking in a barely-there black bikini poolside at the hotel, an incident that may have been staged. “Many believe it was Ouzounian herself who tipped off the photographers to the private pool-area shoot,” says a second source in the weekly magazine industry. “The picture looks totally staged. Who would even recognize her? And a giveaway is that her hair is perfect and she’s wearing makeup. No one looks this good when they think they are relaxing in private. This girl knows what she is doing.”

    Ouzounian, after allegedly breaking up Affleck’s 10-year union, has become “a big problem” for the actor and his people, who are still denying that he had any sexual relations with her.

    “At the moment Ben has managed to keep her quiet. Wait until she finds out that she was just a fling and he has no interest in dating her. How’s he going to shut her up then?” asks our first source. “We are patient. We will wait until Christine is ready.”

    • Cherry says:

      If she thinks for a second she has a future with him given how she has blatantly set him up, leaked stories, is obviously desperate for fame, hurt his reputation and his family, hideously untrustworthy, fake and parades around thinking she’s somebody because she claims to have had sex with an actor then she needs to be committed because she’s insane as nobody is that stupid.

      I actually feel sorry for him. If her claims are true and she did confide in him and have a fling (which there’s zero evidence of so far) then maybe he was desperately lonely. Lonely, unhappy people do stupid things and trust the wrong people. This public betrayal of someone’s faith in you is so low and nasty. She’s such a despicable person.

    • Jets says:

      People updated their piece about Ben and Jen’s weekend with the kids, apparently later in the day Saturday, Jen moved to a hotel so that Ben could be with the kids by himself at her rental home, she doesn’t even want to be in close proximity to him if she doesn’t have to. Good girl Jen, I’m proud of her just keep moving forward. She’s done people, too much hurt inflicted.
      I still think Ben might come clean about the nanny, and actually confirm their relationship, at this point I don’t think he has a choice.

      • aga says:

        What is more worth noting that yesterday he took only their two kids to the farmer’s market, the oldest wasn’t with them.

      • elisha says:

        Yes, I think he’ll confirm too, in a very politician-y type confession. Just to salvage his career anyway; i think all of his political hopes have been dashed at this point (although, cheating husband, he should fit right in!)

    • Christin says:

      If she is truly telling him it’s either her or a tell-all, why is he allegedly paying her way? Cut her off and let her make a fool of herself.

      And, if she is in any way a perceived threat to his family, why doesn’t he pursue a restraining order? Does he think that her being holed up in a fancy hotel will keep her away from him, his kids or Jen? She might show up at the girls’ school or something.

      • Ana says:

        Because they are together….forcing JG out.

      • Christin says:

        If you take his side’s position (that something inappropriate, but not physical, yet a fling – which doesn’t make sense anyway), then why would he not be defending his children from a possibly unstable woman who once worked for them?

        It really does not make sense, unless there is more to it.

        And forcing Jen to give up is certainly one scenario.

  78. JoJo says:

    I don’t think it’s possible to tell what’s really going on with Ben and Jen simply by analyzing their facial expressions during a pap-filled outing. In the years leading up to Ben/Jen’s divorce announcement, this site was filled with commenters saying that Ben’s constant grumpy face was simply a response to the media swarming around them (and not because he was actually unhappy.) We now know different (although I’m sure his grumpy face also had something to do with hating media – in addition to not being happy!) 🙂 Now, we’re making judgements again by trying to read into Jen’s facial expressions – she wouldn’t look at Ben, she wouldn’t make eye contact, she’s miserable, she’s only doing it for the studios, etc. Blah, I don’t buy it. I mean, of course she’s PO’d! I wouldn’t look at Ben either right now. But that said, she’s obviously hugely humiliated and obviously can no longer put up the pretense and facade of a happy family or even a happy conscious uncoupling since the public knows what’s going on.

    The “Ben-haters” (mostly everyone here) are all transferring their desired narrative onto Jen, which is that she’s all done with him and she’s only doing these outings because she has to, etc. But I don’t believe that for a second. I think she puts her kids first, and I don’t believe she would do anything that she felt would be harmful to them, even when it comes to a big studio trying to force a family outing. I don’t buy that. I think that Saturday’s outing was simply that fact that Jen is still going to do whatever she has to in order to ensure that her kids feel things are relatively normal and that they see their father. And that’s the right thing to do, regardless of what’s going on with the nanny, so I do applaud Jen for that.

    That said, I see absolutely NO REASON for her to be wearing her ring now. I can see why Ben would keep it on at this point – for damage control – but not her. Again, JMHO, but I feel like if she is truly so outraged and done with Ben, I think she would take the ring off now. Leaving the rings on for the kids is absurd and senseless and means nothing. And I don’t buy that excuse anyway. If you just look at logic, we now know that Jen ALREADY knew about the nanny affair when they announced on 6/30, and at that time, she wanted Ben to continue living with them and she was still going around showing off her wedding ring. It’s only now that the nanny affair exploded publicly that she’s acting outraged and “done” with him? These actions make me think the opposite – that she WASN’T done with him when they announced, if she’s even really done with him now (and only because she’s being publicly humiliated?) It makes no sense, and it’s why I won’t believe they’re getting divorced until one of them files and the rings come off. (Also, it’s not only possible but completely normal to hate and love someone under these circumstances – I’m sure she hates Ben right now, but it’s way too soon for her to have stopped loving him, no matter what he’s done. So, yes, again, until one of them files, I’m not buying into the divorce story yet – and if he were to grovel and promise enough, I still believe she would ultimately concede.)

    One more thing – I also think that them keeping the rings on is just making things worse at this point. It fuels the perception that they’re still trying to make their marriage work. Even the wording about this used in the media was ambiguous – People reported that the kids are “a big part of” why they still wear the rings. That wording leaves it open as though they haven’t 100% closed the door on the marriage. And I’m sure it was purposeful. But by keeping the rings on, especially Ben is leaving himself open to a lot more ridicule. With the ring on, everything he does from here on out will be perceived as cheating or bad behavior, even though they’re separated/divorcing, because the rings continue to fuel the idea that they’re still somehow kinda sorta together. :/

    Sorry for the rant – I might have to take a Ben/Jen detox next week. 🙂

  79. Ana says:

    There is somebody who just tweeted.

    “I told you Christine Ouzounian, Ben Affleck met each other in Georgia this weekend! Ben’s PR need to stop the bullshit & tell the truth!” “What Ben Affleck is ACTUALLY perpetrating is a form of DOMESTIC VIOLENCE!”

    I don’t know she meant by domestic violence.

    And JG went to a hotel to stay. If true, Ben is the lowest of the low. He is a disgusting human being.

  80. Sara says:

    If this shit is true, Ben is a piece of shit and I hope Matt Damon doesn’t want to be his friend anymore. Ben is a loser despite his Hollywood success. I am so angry at men that do this shit to their families! Karma is a bitch Ben and your kids will put it all together and you will break their hearts into tiny pieces douche bag.