Olivia Wilde: ‘Girls don’t get dressed up for guys; we get dressed up for girls’

2016 CFDA Fashion Awards

Olivia Wilde recently shared some of her beauty secrets with People magazine and I can only hope if I follow them I will look as radiant as she does. Olivia used the interview to do a little shilling for Revlon, for which she is a spokesperson, but she does offer some pretty helpful tips. She says that Jason “doesn’t love it” when she wears red lipstick to channel her inner Sophia Loren, but I’m sure he can look past that. It’s like a tiny scratch on a Bentley. Here are some highlights from the interview:

On men and makeup: “All men are terrified of lipstick. But girls don’t get dressed up for guys; we get dressed up for girls. So I wear whatever I think looks best.”

On her beauty inspiration: “I like to be bold on the red carpet, and the benefit of working with so many brilliant makeup artists is that I get to ask a lot of questions and say, ‘okay so when I go out next week to that birthday party I am going to try my own version of this with my own tools.’”

On her day-to-day look: “I don’t leave the house without a little foundation, concealer and mascara [on]. I think that for a lot of women it’s not about disguising yourself, it’s just about giving yourself a little bump in confidence.”

On the power of makeup: “The older I get, the more I get to know what works best for me. Makeup is not about changing who you are, it’s about understanding your face and highlighting your best features.”

[From People]

I love Olivia, but I have to disagree on a few things. I did an informal poll of my Facebook friends and random Tinder connections and not one man told me he was “terrified” of lipstick. Maybe Jason had some sort of traumatic experience with lipstick as a child. Also, the only woman I get dressed up for is myself. I have also been known to get dolled up to woo the opposite sex, so I think she may be barking up the wrong tree. She is right about using makeup to highlight your best features. She’s obviously a pro at that.

Sadly, it was announced on Wednesday that Olivia’s HBO series, Vinyl, was cancelled after only one season. The show, which followed the ups and (mostly) downs of a rock ’n’ roll record label in the 1970s was produced by Martin Scorcese and Mick Jagger, and I thought it was pretty good. And, of course, there’s all kinds of unresolved storylines, damn it. I hope Mick’s son, James, who played a punk singer, shows up somewhere soon. He’s a hottie. I hope Olivia’s merkin stylist can get another gig somewhere as well.

Olivia took the news in stride, using Twitter to thank fans for their support. She tweeted, “Thanks for all the kind words about Vinyl, my friends. We had a BLAST, and made something special. Party on.”

Don’t worry about Olivia though, she’s keeping busy. She recently made her directorial debut, helming the video for the Red Hot Chili Pepper’s new song Dark Necessities. Too bad she couldn’t talk Anthony Kiedis out of rocking his “Sonny Bono 2016” look. That boy needs a makeover.

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  1. Saraya says:

    Women should dress up for guys. They’re a lot less mean and judgmental about fashion.

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      Yes, but then we’re dressing up to be pleasing to men and there’s this whole objectification thing and it’s just not good. People should dress for themselves and the occasion only.

      • Saraya says:

        What I’m saying is dressing for the guys would be the same as dressing for yourself since guys don’t really care anyway. No pressure.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Guys are equally, if not more judgemental about appearance than women.

      • mp says:

        Well yes, but I don’t think they care about clothes the way we do, meaning as long as they see some t&a, there’s no difference to them.

      • perplexed says:

        I think guys like and notice when women look good (i.e pretty, well-groomed) but they don’t seem to care either way if you’re having a bad hair day or even if you’ve gained weight, imo. Though maybe we’re just invisible when we look bad that day, I’m not sure. The people who seem to comment on that stuff are women for some reason. Whenever I put on a few pounds or my upper lip hair is growing, women tell me but men don’t seem to care or are oblivious. I don’t think Olivia Wilde is wrong when she says women dress for other women. I find I like to avoid criticism about weight gain or unruly hair or bad make-up that comes from female friends. Guys past the 12th grade seem to give compliments or don’t say anything at all. There might be one that random guy that says something unkind but usually they’re some kind of social misfit no one wants to talk to.

      • Naya says:

        Depends on the guy. I once heard a guy go into a rant about some woman who was wearing a shade of lipstick that didnt match her red dress. Nope, not kidding.

        Generally though, I think if you MUST dress for a “gaze” then make it female. Most men (not my friend) are interested in your body rather than what you are wearing. That means if you are the “correct” size and curved in the “right” places you could wear a sack and still be adored. And if you are on the other side of this spectrum, there is nothing you could wear that would “fix” your appearance. The female gaze is just kinder about “wrong” body shapes.

    • annaloo. says:

      Dress to please yourself. You know how you feel in something when it makes you feel good, and you know how you feel when you’re in something that’s not working in life. Be responsible for and empower your own feelings about who you are, including how you look.

    • JIll says:

      Yes because men are to busy being mean about your looks

      • NeoCleo says:

        Men can be and ARE just as judgmental and nasty as any woman out there. I know from personal experience. I’ve had men make personal comments about my appearance for no reason except to be sh*tty. And in no instance were the comments from anyone I knew–these were strangers who were just plain mean and obviously NOT too busy.

    • M.A.F. says:

      Who f**k cares what any man thinks. Dress for yourself and no one else. Dumbest comment I’ve read today.

      • Saraya says:

        “Who f**k cares what any man thinks.”

        Bitter much?

      • kay says:

        i agree with her, and am not bitter.
        i agree with her, and have been happily married for 15 years.
        i agree with her, and love men.

        your comment was rude.

    • Chicken Salt says:

      Some celebs should just get dressed period. I don’t want to see under boob, side boob, camel toe, lingerie passing for a dress, etc. Just put some clothes on!

    • Veronica says:

      You have clearly never read an interview by Karl Lagerfield, haha.

  2. Goats on the Roof says:

    My husband isn’t “terrified” of lipstick, but he sure doesn’t like it.

    • Detritus says:

      Same.
      He loves a smoky eye though… Not sure the logic.

      • Naddie says:

        He can’t taste the smoky eye? It’s the only logic I found, haha.

      • Goats on the Roof says:

        My husband doesn’t care for a smoky eye at all. Or noticeable blusher. Or contouring (I’m totally with him on that one). I think he just dislikes obvious makeup.

    • Kristen says:

      Same. My husband hates the bold red lipstick trend that’s been ongoing for the last few years.

      • Kate says:

        Mine is crazy about the bold red lip. Hence my makeup bag is full of various types and shades of red from my search for the perfect red.

    • Locke Lamora says:

      The thing about men ( or the ones I know) is that you can have 10 layers of fundation and bronzer and blush and they’ll say it’s minimal makeup, but have a bare face and lipstick or eyeliner, and they’ll go OMG so much makeup.

      • Otaku Fairy says:

        I’ve noticed that too.

      • Wren says:

        Because it’s a lot more obvious, and I don’t think men really look too close at a woman’s skin. If it’s a relatively uniform color they’re quite happy to assume that’s the lady’s skin tone.

    • Kitten says:

      My boyfriend hates makeup of any kind and is constantly telling me that I don’t need it. However, I refuse to stop wearing makeup entirely because I love it. But I’ve cut back a lot just to make him happy. Last night it was just mascara and lip gloss but it took a lot of willpower for me to not put some liner on my top lid.

      • Maria says:

        are you dating a “nice guy”? thats their usual MO. “you dont need make up”

      • Kitten says:

        No, he’s not that dude.

      • outhousecat says:

        I told my husband when we first got together that he wouldn’t be seeing a lot of war paint on my face because I only wear make-up for funerals and such (don’t want to be mistaken for the guest of honor lol). At first he was appalled since he came from a proper family where the women wouldn’t come out of their bedrooms in the morning without first applying the “faces.” Now, 23 years later, he couldn’t care less and he still loves me. You’ve got a keeper that loves you for you, not your artistic abilities with a mascara wand.

    • Wren says:

      Yeah, most guys I know are of that mind. I think it’s because they absolutely hate it when makeup rubs off on them, and lipstick is especially known for that. They also don’t enjoy waiting for it to be applied to head out the door.

      I enjoy a little mascara now and then but I find makeup tedious and unnecessary on the whole. My husband likes this quality about me, and tells me that whenever he sees a woman wearing a ton of makeup. Since he’s around me all the time he’s pretty good at spotting it. Most guys are used to seeing women in makeup and their “normal” is quite skewed, because they aren’t super familiar with what no makeup actually looks like.

    • Locke Lamora says:

      Men are so nice, they want us to have perfect faces naturally.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      My bf wouldn’t tell me outright that he doesn’t like lipstick. But when I wear a bolder color, he’ll ask “so what’s up with the red lipstick?” Like he doesn’t understand why women wear color on their mouths.

      Ultimately, I think guys think about kissing when it comes to mouths, and bold lipstick can seem like an obstacle to overcome!

  3. HH says:

    Or yourself. And it also goes back and forth. Mostly me, but sometimes other girls, sometimes guys.

  4. Nancy says:

    I think she is gorgeous. I agree with her makeup comments totally. But she’s not the first to say women dress for women, nah…….I don’t! I wear what I like and feel comfortable in and don’t try to conform. Anyway, she’s the bomb and to her huge credit doesn’t seem like the typical Stepford Wife in Hollywood. Like her hubby too!

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I hate it when people say women dress to please other women. I dress to please myself. And my husband loves red lipstick. so she isn’t speaking for me at all.

      • Kimbers says:

        Agree. Whenever i hear a woman say that women dress for other women -I feel sorry for them. How insecure of them. Dress for yourself is what ladies should do and not try to please or sheep anyone period!

      • JudyK says:

        Not long ago I was in a grocery store line when I noticed a nice-looking man behind me staring at me. As I was putting my groceries in the trunk, he walked by and said, “I thought your nails looked nice.” I said, “Oh thank you for noticing,” and he replied, “That’s why you do it, isn’t it?” WHAT! I ALMOST said, “No, I do it for myself.” Wish I had.

        I wear red lipstick, too, but it’s a matte red…it’s my signature and I look dead w/o it.

      • Nancy says:

        JudyK: At first I thought this was going to be a happy story, a random person giving you a compliment and damn he turns out to be a turd. Bet they do look pretty. I’m such a freak, I remember in HIGH SCHOOL, the most popular boy said I had pretty hands, those of a pianist…..and I do play piano! So much negativity in the world, I remember all the pleasant, trite memories.

      • Wren says:

        @Judyk, what a jerk! If anyone deserves an “oh, eff you” it’s people like that. Way to dish out backhanded compliments. “Ah yes, I shall validate the existence of this woman by complimenting her nails, but she still needs to know that I’m the one who deigned to notice.”

      • Moneypenny says:

        I have no problem saying I dress for other women. Well, of course, I’m dressing for myself, but most men don’t appreciate my shoes or a particular cut of a dress or pant. I guess I should say that I dress for people who appreciate fashion, male or female.

    • boredblond says:

      Perhaps girls dress for girls but Women do what they damn well please

      • JustVisiting says:

        Yup, yup, yup.

        And I dress for myself and others. Depends on the mood and situation.
        Olivia always strick me as trying too hard to be edgy in her statements. It feels closed off.

    • Kitten says:

      @Nancy-She is really gorgeous and one of those lucky women who actually looks better without makeup.

      This is how petty I am: the BF loves Olivia so I had to point out her leg situation to him (because again, I’m a petty child) and he was like “oh no…why did you have to do that?!?”

      He tried to get me back by sending me close-ups of Tom Hardy’s teeth but the joke’s on him because all I could focus on was Hardy’s beautiful lips. Score one for Kitten!

      • Nancy says:

        I bet you’re a knock out. You said you have chocolate colored hair? And an athletes body, little makeup. My soon to be ex always raved about my “beauty” hahaha…….to me, as corny as it sounds, it’s all on the inside. A beauty can look like a beast if she/he doesn’t have a pure soul. I do have to admit though, I could consider trading teams (as if) if drunk enough for Olivia. Not just pretty, but from everything I’ve read a cool chick. Like you and me!!!!!!!!!!

      • Kitten says:

        Yep she’s a stunner for sure.

        Couldn’t agree with you more about personality trumping all. I feel the same way about guys: very hot guys with terrible personalities are instantly ugly to me.

        Speaking of your ex, I hope this rough patch is over for you soon, Nancy. ♥

      • M.A.F. says:

        what is her “leg situation”?

      • Nancy says:

        Thanks Kitten. I am slowly feeling like myself again. He wants to get back together…..we’ve been a couple since we were teenagers, half our lives. But, no not I, I will survive….my inner Gloria Gaynor. Life is good. Happy weekend doll…..

  5. Liberty says:

    Actually, a lot of my guy friends have said for years they love the LOOK of lipcolour on us, but loathe the sticky, waxy, lotioned-up or greasy unnatural texture of some lip products. That may be what she meant.

    But come on – we dress for ourselves, and “hey look fashion fun!” for other girls, but ALSO I think for the men in our lives. HOWEVER –Maybe if you are a gorgeous actress/model, your own self is the carrot you present for the guys, it’s all there already, that’s the natural prize, full stop. And so then, the rest of the packaging, so to speak, is just fashion fun you share with girl pals who’ll appreciate the finds and the effort and colors and cuts, etc….

  6. My favourite cosmetic is lipstick, best invention ever. It is as important to me, as oxygen! I think Olivia means well but got her words mixed up, girls should dress up for themselves, not for others whether guy or gal.

    • Nancy says:

      MIV: Right. I don’t always go full blast color, but have to have at least a gloss.

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      I really want to like lipstick, and I buy so much of it hoping I’ll use it, but I just never seem to be comfortable wearing it. There’s a Clarins balm/gloss I’m obsessed with and I usually just stick to that. I’m totally jealous of women who can go out with a bright red lip.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Yep, me too. I have tons of them, never wear any. I hate the feeling of anythig on my lips apart from labello, and I have fuller lips so I feel like bright lipstick looks like too much.

      • Esmom says:

        I used to wear it in the 90s but not anymore, still have multiples of my favorite shade in my drawer. Lips gloss that’s clear or with a tiny hint of color is enough for me.

      • ExistingisExhausting says:

        it took awhile before the lipstick wasn’t wearing me, but now i can’t live without it!

    • lilacflowers says:

      LIpstick is like a toy to me. Who of my several personalities can I be today? What mood am I in? My coloring allows me to wear a wide range of colors. But I can go without it. Mascara on the other hand. I rarely have left the house without mascara and earrings since the age of 13.

      And Olivia usually irks me but these statements aren’t so bad.

      • Nancy says:

        lilac: me too. I kind of use makeup as a toy or prop. One day I will vamp it up…..others just mascara and gloss. Depends on the mood and day. Like you, I won’t go to the grocery store without earrings and a few other assorted accessories. Just like my mother. My twin sister totally opposite. Wouldn’t wear makeup or jewelry, aside from wedding ring to save her life. We’re all so different, yet in many way the same, us ladies…….

  7. Maria says:

    so do women then have responsibilty for female beauty standards if men dont have any influence and “girls only dress up for girls”?

    • Majken says:

      Yeah, we do, but it’s also a longer conversation about gender, culture, history and what beauty is.
      I wish and hope that our children won’t wear make up or dress up and just be themselves, but that’s probably wishful thinking.

  8. SKF says:

    Red lipstick looks AMAZING on your face but less amazing when you kiss your man and it ends up on both of your faces. My ex loved to look at me in it but came to hate it when I wore it because he couldn’t just kiss me whenever he wanted or he got it all over his lips too.

  9. Naddie says:

    Another untalented pretty actress, but I appretiate her honesty about the red carpet. Enough with those “awkward” celebrities lying about loving the spotlight.

  10. Jayna says:

    I never dressed for other women. I dressed for myself, and at times to look hot for the opposite sex. But always my version of sexy, true to my style. I guess that’s not politically correct to say these days. LOL

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      It may not be PC to say, but come on, we have all wanted to look pretty and sexy for a certain (or random) person.

    • Naddie says:

      I think you sound quite balanced and honest.

  11. Louise177 says:

    I was surprised “Vinyl” was cancelled. I thought it had good ratings. Guess I was wrong. It was a really good show. Hope it gets picked up by someone else.

    • Anna S. says:

      I read rumblings on another website it was due to a high budget cost for making the show?

    • poppy says:

      the show had 15 producers, fired the show runner before the 1st season wrapped, nobody watched it (except me, it was awful and I watched to the bitter end just in case), and was $100 million, like so much more than the show runner’s super successful sopranos and boardwalk empire. far more than what hbo spends on GOT.
      the music rights were a major cost but pretty sure mick jagger and Martin socrsese were hogging a ton of the cheese as well.
      it was a major disappointment.
      panned by critics and terrible ratings.

      over the top ridiculous -the building collapsing, the murder, so much cliché and so eye rolly.
      between the literally dozens of people that called the shots, too many cooks spoilt the broth. seriously, it wanted to be every HBO hit and had elements of sopranos, leftovers, all the costume shows, etc

      a total hot mess. like the state HBO is in.

  12. LooseSeal says:

    Ok let’s put to bed this whole do women dress for men or for other women nonsense. We’re a lot more dimensional than that. We dress for how WE feel. For ourselves. Sometimes we want to impress our friends with our fashion on girls night. Sometimes we want to slip on our freakum dress and get the dudes a little hot and bothered. Sometimes we want a power outfit that gives us the confidence to kill a bit meeting or a job interview. Sometimes we want to wear sweats to run errands because we’re just getting things done. We have to stop this notion that women only exist for the perceptions of others.

    ETA: and some women are tomboys who never wear dresses. Some women are modest for religious purposes. All women use fashion as self expression in their own ways

  13. Tobbs says:

    I dress up for my self mainly, but I would be lying if I said I never think about what others will think of it, and especially other girls. I love the notion of only dressing for yourself and that fashion is fun etc. and the empowering sentiment behind it, but sometimes it just makes me feel more insecure. Whenever it’s brought up there’s always a lot of comments saying I only dress for me, I wear what I want depending on my mood etc and it leaves me feeling like I’m the only one standing in front of the mirror and feeling insecure about my outfit while the rest of you are these super secure fashionistas. Good for you guys though, I mean that it the way it should be. But people judge what you wear, especially us girls. I mean come on – half the posts on this site are discussion about the outfits of other ladies.

    • Andrea says:

      I agree. I would love to say that i dress for myself all the time. But that’s not true. I do think about what other people will wear and I plan my outfit based on that. Where i work most of the women wear jeans and t-shirts, but one of the women decided to change up her style and showed up in a dress with cute shoes. After that all the women started showing up in pretty dresses and nice heels. It wasn’t done in a negative way and all the women loved complimenting each other and talking about their outfits. Everyone felt good. Also, once the women started dressing up so did the men. Everyone just wanted to look their best. Thinking back its kinda of funny.

      • Sunnydaze says:

        Totally agree! It bugs me so many on this thread are saying “no, WE dress for ourselves!” Don’t speak for me. You are not me, I am not part of your “we”. The ugly truth is many of us have dressed to impress men and women alike. My friends and I in college used to dress in tanks and short skirt and high heels in the middle of bitter winter knowing full well men would likely laugh about us trekking through the snow like that, but damn if we wouldn’t get compliments by other women in the bathroom. At that time in my life, yes I did dress for other women, I did look at it as competition. I’m not particularly proud of it, but it’s the truth. As I’ve grown older it then became less about impressing/competing with other women and more about impressing men. Eventually it became about impressing myself, embracing me. But it was a long journey. Even now, 6 months pregnant, I’m sitting in my bedroom trying to decide if I want to put on a bathing suit for a grad party because I’m insecure and my cousin who will be at this party had a darling bump last summer. My husband thinks I look great, and that *should* be enough, but my reality is that sense of competition still surfaces once and a while. Nothing positive comes from denying that some women still struggle with this. Everything I see these “I do it for ME! WE do it just for ourselves!” It makes me feel like I’m on the outside of some awesome girl power group. It’s unfortunate I feel this way, I certainly don’t like it, but I’m working on it, working through it. Still doesn’t make my reality any less real.

  14. Locke Lamora says:

    I didn’t like the video for Dar Necessities. It was fine, but nothing special. And Anthony has been rocking the emo Hitler look for years now, and it shows no sign of going away. While we’re on the subjects of haircuts, Josh need one too.

  15. Dangles says:

    This is almost as fresh as Michelle’s Obama’s advice to men: ‘You don’t ‘babysit’ your own children”

  16. Majken says:

    I think the whole make up thing is a lot more complicated then that. My nephew recently looked at me and my sister when we put make up on and he didn’t understand why we did it. Are we not good enough, not pretty enough without the make up? He asks. Should he wear some too?

    I have to admit I never really thought about it like that, but in that moment I was a bit ashamed of myself, why do I wear make up every day? I always wear a little foundation and mascara as a minimum. Here we are telling him that he is beautiful just as he is, but apprently we aren’t?
    And yet I still wear make up even after that, there’s this pressure or culture that makes me feel like I’m naked if I don’t wear something? That I always “have” to wear some if I’m with other people – to hid my blemishes and enhance my best features… And of course it’s also wrong to wear too much make up.

    It makes me feel sad and it’s a shitty thing to teach kids – that they aren’t pretty enough just as they are.
    I think I’m gonna try to wear less make up and maybe one day I’ll stop completely – I really hope I’ll be able to do that because really, what is the point? To look better? I want to “own” my appearance and be able to actually mean my words to my nephew because right now it’s a little bit of a lie.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      What’s wrong with enhancing your appearance? Do you wear colors that look pretty on you? Should you start wearing only beige because blue makes you look prettier and that means your least attractive self isn’t good enough? Your argument is based on a comment by a child. If it makes you feel prettier to wear makeup, what’s wrong with that? Does it make you feel prettier to brush your hair? Are you going to stop doing that, too?

      • Majken says:

        No of course not, I’ll still brush my hair 🙂 That’s just good hygene.
        And I think clothes has another effect then just “looking good” it tells something about who you are and your values- sporty, casual, organic, business and so on. As for colors, I wear the colors I like, I don’t know if they suit me or enhance me, but I have a lot of blue clothes… I like them – do they make me prettier? I don’t know.. And is that really why we buy clothes? To make ourselves look better? What about comfort? Of course I don’t buy things I think are ugly, but do they really need to enhance me?

        My point was why do I need to enhance myself with make up? Why do I feel like I’m not good enough/pretty enough and naked without make up?
        And like I said I still wear make up- especially at work. I have just been wondering, why it is I do it? Would my colleagues and my pupils( I’m a teacher) really care? I don’t thinks so- so why is it so hard for me not to? Do I really have that little self confidence?
        So it’s not so much about if I feel prettier with make up ( I do), it’s more why I need to feel pretty? And why I think me without make up isn’t pretty.

        And basing an argument on a comment from a child, it just made sense to me, because I couldn’t answer him honestly.

    • Wren says:

      I think that is a very valid concern. Our actions teach children far more than our words. And there’s a definite “not good enough” message that makeup sends. No it isn’t all about that, but really, why? There’s a fine line between enhancing your best features and feeling inadequate without it.

      I rarely wear makeup, and whenever I look at makeup ads or beauty articles, it’s always “happy happy look your best” on the surface and underneath it’s “of course you just as you are isn’t really your best now is it? feeling insecure yet? ……. buy this thing and feel better”.

    • Jwoolman says:

      I felt the same way as your nephew when I watched my mother putting on makeup. The whole thing baffled me. Ok, it still does… She looked so much better without it. I like the natural color of lips. But my mother felt naked without at least red lipstick on if she was going out. To be honest, that color (red) especially makes me cringe for some reason, maybe because it’s so glaring and unnatural.

      I was so glad when I realized the whole ritual was not mandatory, despite the relentless message to the contrary from tv and movies. I didn’t have to wear makeup and so I never have. I should point out that wearing such material on your skin, just like wearing fragrance, does have an effect on other people around you that you might not realize. When you talk while wearing lipstick, you are spitting out little bits of it into the air. And of course you are leaving it on drinking classes and anything else your lips touch. Other makeup on the face flakes off bit by bit also. Modern cosmetics try to minimize these effects, but it’s still there. On the one hand, we are also spitting out kazillion germs every time we talk also and our natural skin eventually flakes off. (Isn’t science wonderful? Knowledge is power. Also disgusting.) But our bodies are equipped to deal with those natural discharges from the people around us. The extra material from cosmetics – not so much. It’s adding to the load of things not quite good for us in our environment.

      Fragrance is especially insidious (and many cosmetics have included them, maybe scent-free is becoming more common but it was rare when I was young). Not only does it contaminate the air, it migrates on your skin from the point of application and so everything you touch becomes contaminated. You may not notice if you aren’t sensitive to fragrance. Paper money picks up and retains such fragrances so much that unless it is fresh from the mint, I have to keep it in a bag with activated charcoal, along with any mailed material that was touched by someone wearing such scent. I have to buy cases of toilet tissue mail order because the unscented ones In the store get easily saturated with the fragrance emanating from the scented ones. The problem probably started once artificial fragrances came on the market, since the old natural perfumes don’t seem to affect people the same way. But artificial fragrances are becoming such a problem for an increasing number of people that some conferences are beginning to ban them. Often people don’t realize how much such things are involved in chronic problems until they actually are in a fragrance-free environment for a while. I was checking on a friend’s cats while she was away and her apartment was so saturated with so many different fragrances that as I dived for my charcoal mask, I realized it was the olfactory equivalent of a high-noise environment.

      In our culture, the real driving force behind the relatively recent feeling that women need to wear makeup to look good is very likely simply the financial one. Cosmetics is a huge profit-maker. A lot of money is spent making women feel naked without makeup, starting in childhood. But my mother was likely the first generation in her family to wear it. She was born in the early 1920s and grew up with movies and the actresses wore makeup off set routinely. So she was set up to see makeup as necessary for beauty. When television appeared (I’m the first tv generation), the same pressures were transferred to the small screen. Women even wore full makeup in bed on tv shows of my youth.

      Don’t know why I’m such a throwback to a simpler time. Being the first generation to get overexposed and thus sensitive to fragrances probably helped. I got to the point where I couldn’t come near my mother when she wore her usual lipstick without having a coughing fit, but we were able to find unscented alternatives before that relationship became rather strained. Being a cheapskate was also a factor, imagine all the money I’ve saved! I was also fortunate enough to choose a profession where nobody in their right mind would wear makeup at work- it would contaminate everything in the lab and be unsafe for us also because of all the solvents around. Even students weren’t really wearing makeup while I was teaching college in the late 1970s, although unfortunately that began to shift later and working in the library became extremely difficult for me. The librarian’s secretary was always saturated with fragrance (she was of my mother’s generation) so I shifted to using the library at night to avoid it. But once the students started using fragrance – well, fortunately, the Internet eventually blossomed into a research tool that could replace the library.

  17. racer says:

    Trendy women dress up for other women.

  18. mkyarwood says:

    I’m not going to look too deeply into this comment, because it’s true between close girlfriends. My two BMF’s (best mom friends?) and I love to go all out at hallowe’en and surprise each other. I do this with my sisters too, and if a coveted clothing item is seen on fb, for example, a number of scheduling requests will come in for it. It’s not like a malicious thing at all, even though there is a tiny vein of competition between us. My littlest sister wears a belt I wore 20 years ago ‘cos it’s back in, lol

  19. QQ says:

    I dress for me but I Like to show My Golden Globes, One thing I DO find is that the days I feel I Look most exciting/modern/different/trying something daring, Women and Gay men will comment in droves and that is always the highest compliment, people that don’t have anything at stake LOL, The days men compliment the most have to do with how inappropriate I am on my deliberate T&A show ( Or Nails, Straight men ALWAYS come for me about my nails ?)

    Makeup…. hmmm I Adore Makeup and trying on as much of trends and colors as I can get away with (but I continue to move towards better skin care so that foundation isn’t troweled on, Plus SoFL heat!) My Bf isn’t into makeup so Much but he knows That Sephora is Mecca and things will be tried so he always makes a point of encouraging outlandish stuff for fun!, the Happy compromise is: Colourpop Matte Lipsticks or anything like that where he can kiss me but the lipstick stays on me and also that in General he isn’t a Titty Baby about it. For Olivia herself, i feel like Makeup ages her tremendously, like I never believe her age UNTIL I see her without makeup! (I also Call her Bad Luck Charm, That Girl’s Picker for work is BROKEN)

    • Kitten says:

      That’s a good man, right there.

      My boyfriend has learned to accept that I WILL wear black and leather during the summer and that I WILL wear motorcycle boots with a dress. It’s gotten to the point that if he sees me in a bright color he gets excited.

  20. Loulou says:

    She’s quite right, red vampy lips veeeery often scares the shit out of guys, but completely knock other girls down. I wore red matte lips outside only once. As I am extremely pale and dark haired so I thought it had a nice Snow Whity Femme Fatale vibe. My guy of the time didn’t say anything at all about it but I wasn’t under the impression he was fond of it. But women, WOMEN my dears, they love it so much and admire anyone who is brave enough to dare to wear it, in the subway there were so many girls starring at me in awe and with saucer-wide eyes.

    But I personally don’t like it that much, like the guys, I prefer a nude makeup.

  21. EM says:

    Such a trite statement. I dress for me. Everyone else can take a hike if they don’t like it.

  22. Ennie says:

    I usually dress for comfort, and although I like (and need!) makeup to look nicer, I usually am in a rush, so I just apply foundation or little else. The one I feel more judgement all are women at my workplaces. I get compliments from them when I apply more blush or eyeliner. Recently a woman I barely speak to, said to me “wow, you are finally wearing color” when I wore my Mexican orange embroidered blouse. And I usually do wear color! I got angry, but ended up ignoring her.
    I think that it is true that (some) women notice and observe things like this. I praise someone when I like the accessory, but it is not in my personality to be constantly doing that, but I know quite a few others check on others.
    For example, if I go out with my friends or coworkers, I go as I please, but with my husband relatives or some coworkers or their wives, I try a bit harder, I’d hate that they will judge me for things that I can control, when I have a physical defect in my eyes that I cannot do anything about (amblyopia). So at least take care of what I can.

    • perplexed says:

      Yeah, I find women are more observant about these things for some reason. I like the compliments — the critiques not so much.

      I don’t know if I actually dress for others (I assume I’m doing it for myself mainly because I see myself the most in the mirror), but I do think observations/speculations tend to come from women more. If I’m not wearing make-up, they usually assume I’m not taking care of myself.

  23. anon123 says:

    I think people overestimate the impact of make up on their looks. They think it makes them look better than it actually does.
    Most women wear make up because they think they look better with it but it is not actually true. The difference is immaterial. A healthy woman with good skin looks good with make up or without it and vice versa.

    On top of it make up clogs pores, mascara irritates eyes etc. I don’t wear make up for this reason, it is very uncomfortable and my eyes are allergic to mascara.

    • Jwoolman says:

      I was recently looking at candid pictures in either the physics or chemistry/chemical engineering trade journal (get them with my memberships) and the pics of women of all ages above their interviews honestly looked makeup-free. And they looked quite good and happy. Laboratory scientists are probably less likely to get into the makeup habit and so are less likely to feel compelled to use it, I think. Their work environment doesn’t expect it and in the lab it’s actually a hazard. Women in work environments where it is actually expected have a harder time avoiding it even if they tire of it.

      Dunno about you, but I’d rather get more sleep than spend time on such things…. So there’s that, also.

  24. Trixie says:

    Eh, I wear jeans and t-shirts because it is what I feel comfortable in. The only time I care what other people think of my appearance is when I have a job interview.

    And I never, ever wear makeup because I don’t like how it feels on my skin. If someone is going to dislike me for not wearing makeup, then they aren’t someone I want to be with/around in the first place.

  25. Rayya Kirt says:

    I totally agree Corey; I get dressed up for myself in that I wear what I personally think looks good on me which makes me feel confident. Plenty of people I dated did not like this or that on me, but as long as I liked it and felt good, I went with it. Confidence is sexy above all.

  26. Sylvia says:

    I love her. And I get her comments. I dress for me, but me likes to look cute. If I’m ever unsure about something, I ask my friends. I’ve never once asked a guy, because I tend to think most guys don’t know what it means when you ask “does this look cute?” Like someone upthread said, it’s a fashion thing. If you don’t care about fashion, that’s cool. But I don’t understand this need to knock other women as “insecure” because they like looking good, and not always just for themselves.