Nadya Suleman, aka Octomom, has been relatively quiet for years. I covered her when she first got famous and at the height of her fame, when she couldn’t get her story straight and when her history of declaring bankruptcy and using public assistance came to light. Suleman, now 41, deliberately had 12 embryos implanted as a single mom, deep in debt as a student with six kids at home already. (She claimed she had just six embryos implanted but two split somehow, which we later learned was not true.) Her fertility doctor later lost his license for that and for other abuses. She’s made ends meet by using welfare, for which she was under investigation for welfare fraud, by doing pr0n, by stripping and by getting in celebrity boxing matches. If you’re unfamiliar with her and watch excerpts from her upcoming interview with The Doctors, below, keep in mind that she sounds superficially intelligent and that she can talk a good game. She absolutely got plumped lips, a new nose, Botox and had fake nails while she was crying poor after having the babies. She’s a grifter, is what I’m saying and now she’s trying to go “straight” because nothing else worked out for her.

Nadya Suleman — who now goes by Natalie — says she no longer wants to be known as “Octomom” now eight years after she gave birth to octuplets.

“I never set out to become an ‘octomom,’” Suleman, 41, says in an exclusive clip from Tuesday’s episode of The Doctors, hosted by Dr. Travis Stork. “I’ve always wanted a big family – not this big!”

On the show, Suleman reflects on her previous life choices, include her decision to pose nude so that she would not have to rely on government assistance to provide for her children.

“Rather than go get more public assistance, which I already felt ashamed of, I ended up selling myself out,” she says. “At the time, it was like an investment so that I could support my family. I believe the judgment I experienced was warranted because what were people supposed to believe? All they were being fed by the media was negativity.”

Suleman says she began to hate her own public persona.

“There’s nobody, possibly, who could have hated ‘Octomom’ more than I,” she says.

As much as she has tried to move on from her media alter-ego, Suleman says it has been hard to do, which is why she has decided to come back into the public eye.

“My history was haunting us,” she says. “I left ‘Octomom.’ I went back to my life as a counselor. I went back and my kids had a healthy, happy life. The problem is it’s followed us, because people never knew what I did. They never knew the true story.”

And while Suleman says she regrets some of her previous choices, she says her prior actions have not affected her children.

“I own and take responsibility for my poor choices, but it certainly doesn’t take away from how extraordinary these kids ended up turning out to be.”

[From People]

She’s saying the right things. I hope she means it, I hope her kids are ok, I really do, and it’s probably a good sign that we haven’t heard from her in years. Maybe there are other people in these kids’ lives helping out. At least they’re in school now and have that structure. Suleman’s mom passed away in late 2014 and while Nadya used to live with her and she was a caregiver to her older six children the two of them had a complicated relationship and would often fight through the press. Suleman doesn’t have to worry too much about people knowing her primarily as Octomom because she’s largely faded from the press. She’s the one reminding us who she is and without that label she wouldn’t have any attention at all. She knew what she was doing.