US: Ben Affleck continues treatment, he will be ‘dealing with this disease for life’

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In case you were wondering what’s up with Ben Affleck when he isn’t perusing paparazzi photos of himself, he’s still in treatment for alcohol addiction, according to US Magazine. At first I thought that Affleck people must have spoken to US about this in an attempt to distance him from his bro Matt Damon’s really asinine comments about the #metoo movement and how he would believe a friend over a colleague who was attacked by that friend. (That’s me paraphrasing, but he basically said that.) Also, Damon really went off about poor actors having to make confidential settlements for sexual assault claims, which makes me think he has some insider knowledge about that happening. In fact the scenario he mentioned, an actor paying someone off for a “false” claim instead of getting bad press ahead of a movie release, sounded more than just hypothetical. However then I saw these photos of Affleck, taken on Thursday. He was outside a Buddhist facility in Santa Monica and The Daily Mail reports that he was with a group of people who left and returned to a treatment facility where there’s a curfew. Plus Affleck was said to be stumbling somewhat, which doesn’t add up if he was leaving and returning to rehab.

Ben Affleck appears to have returned to a residential rehab facility, in his ongoing battle to conquer his struggle with alcohol addiction.

The actor was filmed briefly stumbling and apparently disoriented at a treatment center in Los Angeles on Thursday.

The Oscar-winner was accompanied by two women as he departed a rehab faciity for a visit to a Buddhist center in the early evening, and by the same women as he returned just before 9.30pm.

In the footage obtained exclusively by DailyMail.com, the father-of-three can be seen partially supported by one woman as he rounds a corner towards his waiting car.

Upon seeing photographers, the woman removes Affleck’s arm from her shoulder, at which point the apparently disorientated star appears to briefly veer towards the road and a tree, before correcting himself…

A source told DailyMail.com that the 45-year-old headed to a Buddhist center during his outing, along with his companions, before spending the rest of the evening elsewhere.

‘When he came out he had his arm around the girl and they rode in his car together,’ said the source, noting that the group were back at the center before the evening curfew for residents.

[From The Daily Mail]

OK so the women may be from his rehab, in which case I feel sorry for them that their photos are out there. Ben may have been disoriented because he just meditated, (I know I’m giving him massive benefit of the doubt but I meditate a little and it can make you dizzy, plus he was probably surprised to see paparazzi). He does look a little tipsy to me but he was supposedly leaving rehab and then going back, so that doesn’t make sense. I don’t drink anymore and I know I can still look like sh-t and like I’m drunk when I’m in a weird mood. Occam’s razor though and all that.

Anyway Affleck’s people want us to know that he’s in treatment and he’s going to be “dealing with this disease” for life. Oh and he’s still with Lindsay Shookus, he just didn’t go to her sister’s wedding with her in Buffalo last week, maybe because he wanted to avoid being around people drinking. That’s the subtext I’m getting.

Ben Affleck is continuing treatment for alcohol and substance abuse, Us Weekly can exclusively confirm.

“Ben’s main priorities have never wavered,” a source close to the 45-year-old actor tells Us. “He’s focused on his family and spending time with Lindsay [Shookus]. Dealing with this disease is something he’ll have to work on for the rest of his life and he remains focused on it.”

Affleck was noticeably absent from Shookus’ sister’s wedding last weekend in Buffalo, New York, but Us has learned that he was at a family event in Los Angeles. He has been spotted at several treatment centers in the area. Us has learned that he has worked hard to assemble a system of support that includes different treatment centers.

Affleck has battled alcohol addiction for many years…

However, in late September, Affleck “reached a breaking point,” a source exclusively told Us at the time. “He knew he was spiraling and was unhappy.” The Justice League actor turned to Garner, 45, and his younger brother, Casey Affleck, to find a 30-day rehab program in northern L.A. He completed it and has since sought outpatient treatment.

From US Weekly]

Ok so this article states that he did 30 day rehab in September and they insinuate that it was inpatient, but I don’t think it was. The Emmys were September 17 and he was drinking that night (after his earlier stint in rehab in April) and then we heard that he was spotted outside outpatient rehab on October 4th, two weeks later. So if he did a 30 day treatment it was outpatient, as we’ve heard to date. (No shade on that honestly, I’m just trying to clarify.) To be clear this does not seem like a privacy violation as US is running these stories and state that they’re confirmed. Also, maybe some of the people in the rehab Ben returned to are staying there while he just goes during the day.

Whatever is going on, I would hope that Affleck stays sober and that he keeps his hands to himself. I would also encourage him to make a better statement about the assaults and abuses in his industry, but he’s been keeping it brief because he must know on some level that he would end up sounding like Morgan Spurlock or his buddy Damon.

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  1. Nicole says:

    I knew that article of him complaining about looking bloated was covering something. Honestly he should’ve put this story out on Friday instead of pretending the bloated photos weren’t because he was off the wagon again

    • ELX says:

      Regarding BA and MD, I wonder about the extent to which they genuinely believe that the things you do when you’re drunk somehow don’t ‘count.’ “I was lit when I grabbed her boob so it’s not really me, I’m not really a bad person.” Back in 1980, before MADD, a lot of people had that kind of belief about drunk driving—“I was drunk therefore I’m not really culpable even though I hit and killed someone with my car.” It’s a huge sea change in attitude that’s underway and as a handsy drunk, BA is on the wrong side of it. MD’s just ‘showing his a**’ as we say down home, although I am continually surprised at how dim-witted Mr. Harvard really is.

      • Nicole says:

        I would say that they genuinely believe all of it

      • KBB says:

        I think Ben gets it when he’s sober, but like most alcoholics he becomes a completely different person when he is drinking. I don’t think he tries to rationalize his drunken behavior. He wouldn’t be in and out of rehab all the time if he liked the person he was when he drank.

        After these last comments from Matt Damon, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s an enabler for Ben. He seems to make a lot of excuses for bad behavior, so I wouldn’t be shocked if that extended to his best friend. Addicts are good at finding people who forgive them for abhorrent stuff.

      • Nicole says:

        Matt is a known enabler of ben. That’s something that has been widely known for a while now. And i think drunk or not ben would have the same ideas about his actions. I don’t think every single time he harassed someone was while he was drunk

      • magnoliarose says:

        He seeks enablers, and they comply.

      • Heather says:

        Good analogy. People need to take responsibility for being able to take responsibility for their actions. If they just can’t manage it, they should probably cloister themselves in a rehab until they can, or otherwise leave society.

    • A says:

      Not everything is a conspiracy. Kimmel interviewed him months ago and it was on magazine racks for weeks before the story popped up online.

    • milla says:

      He looks like an alcoholic
      I know that look, my father had it. Then he died when he was 45.

  2. K0n4y says:

    As a recovering alcoholic, I wish him the best. The struggle to stay sober as an actor has to add a different element considering all of the appearances and parties in that career, however there are many actors that have been able to pull it off. Still don’t really care for Lindsey Shookus. Hopefully she is pushing him to get help. I don’t believe the ‘stumbling from meditation’ excuse. 😅

    • IlsaLund says:

      I hope Ben gets this sorted out as well and he can maintain his sobriety. I don’t get good vibes from Lindsey Shookus….I’ve read reports where she’s an enabler and drinks with Ben. So, who knows?? Just wishing him the best.

    • mannori says:

      I think that’s the reason why he’s ultimately taking this non conventional treatment at Passages Malibu. Is not based on 12 step program and is a very controversial treatment in the sense that is little successful and based on the premise that alcoholism is not an illness and they can manage to make an alcoholic control the alcohol intake. And some other holistic, new age-ism theories that are very controversial, to say the least. They have a doctor who visits them ONE time. It’s attended mostly by rich and lazy folks who just want to do the minimal, and avoid the hard work it requires to take seriously this illness. Is more like a luxury holidays facility. They are taken off any prescription medicines by their previous treatments and are being given others, like Adderall. One part of me thinks that Ben has chosen this treatment because he’s not really taking seriously his illness and wants to do the least work possible. He wants to be able to keep drinking, thinking maybe he has the power to control it and put himself limits. He has been a longtime alcoholic and should know that it doesn’t work that way. On the other hand I agree that for the context and environment of showbiz where he lives 24/7 must be really difficult to maintain sobriety with a 12 step program. And he knows he’s not strong enough. I wish him well, because he’s ill, but he’s obviously deluding himself and playing with his health by taking the easiest road.

      • KBB says:

        Anyone know if RDJ worked the steps to get sober? He seems to be one of the best celebrity sobriety stories around.

        ETA: I just looked it up and he did. I wonder what the Passages success stories are.

        Not everyone needs the structure of 12 steps, but it seems to benefit the most hardcore addicts/alcoholics. And that stuff runs in Ben’s family, he’s not just an outlier that has one too many beers at parties.

      • KBB says:

        Adderall?! JFC. That stuff is so addictive and overprescribed. Everyone I’ve ever known who truly needed it hated it, and everyone who didn’t need it, loved it and took it way too much. Prescribing it to known addicts is a slippery slope if I’ve ever seen one.

      • Andrea says:

        Ben wouldn’t make it past Step 4 (searching and fearless moral inventory). Step 9 would be another huge problem (making direct amends to everyone who has been harmed). He still has not acknowledge Annamarie Tendler’s accusation.

      • anon says:

        or maybe focusing on his spiritual growth and meditation and detoxing will get his body where he can continue staying off alcohol. years worth of addiction, debauched lifestyle lack of sprituality really mess up the body and create addictions-not just substance addictions.

      • Atlanta Girl says:

        A friend who had struggled with alcoholism for 15ish years and multiple rehabs (and DUIs) had success with an unconventional approach. Alcohol is sugar. Sugar is super-addictive to some people more than others. He eliminated all sugar and artificial sweetners from his diet. Has not had a drink in 6 years. Said that when he eats a lot of fruit, he notices cravings for alcohol – so he moderates his fruit or honey or maple syrup intake. Interesting approach – there is no answer for everyone – especially if there are underlying issues someone is not dealing with.

    • minx says:

      I know a lot of people here seem to hate him and his girlfriend, but I wish him the best. My husband has been sober for 34 years.

      • KBB says:

        I do too. And all the best to you and your husband. That’s quite a feat!

      • JoJo says:

        I wish him the best too. I don’t get the blame around Lindsay. His actions are his responsibility and no one else’s, although at this point, it’s clear his problem is serious enough that whomever he’s with probably has to refrain from drinking – at least for some time. I have a feeling Jen, his mom and co. are probably putting the pressure on for him to drop Lindsay. He hasn’t been seen with her since T-Giving weekend.

      • pam says:

        There’s a pic of Ben in NYC on IG from early December.

      • Milla says:

        I don’t care about him. But he has kids and they love him.

        Glad to hear that your husband managed to escape that hell.

  3. Mrs. WelenMelon says:

    Good on him for doing the hard work to get and stay sober. His children are surely proud of their dad.

    • Mia4s says:

      “His children are surely proud of their dad.”

      Speaking with a certain amount of understanding and experience? They’re not. Not right now anyway, maybe someday when they are older. Right now they are mostly sad or confused. I hope they’re in counselling. I really hope the persona of “super happy homemaker all is well” that Garner puts on is truly just a public act. This is no time for denial.

      • Mrs. WelenMelon says:

        Nothing that simple. Proud can be all mixed up with angry. Surely it has been explained over and over to Affleck’s children that their dad is sick . The kids can be all kinds of angry about dad’s disease while still being proud that their dad is a fighter.

      • gidget says:

        He’s a fighter? Lmao, hilarious.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Her public face is an act but not a lie if that makes sense. It is an exaggerated element of her personality which is why she is so good at it. It isn’t a big stretch.

      • Andrea says:

        I think it is creepy and weird that she’s this happy and carefree when her kids’ father has been in total turmoil for years. He’s untrustworthy and unreliable and possibly drunk whenever they’re with him, which puts her in an impossibly difficult situation. Does she not have any real feelings at all? Her image is that important to her? She would be more relate-able if she dropped the mask once in awhile unless of course that isn’t a mask.

      • LearningtheSystem says:

        @Andrea, I have many friends who have gone through difficult times, as have I, and only showed the closest of friends and family how they truly felt. To the world they showed a happy face. I think most of us do that. It doesn’t take a course in acting to put on that mask in public.
        Also, her kids need a sense of security, and seeing Mom hold it together when Dad isn’t is just that. They need to know that someone is taking care of them. I’m sure she has her breakdowns, but in private with those adults closest to her.

    • Ma says:

      lmao, nah

    • mannori says:

      Checking himself at Passages is actually the opposite of hard work.

    • Annie says:

      Proud of what? Lol. He’s a mess and he has hurt them and their mother many times. Congrats dad on staging photo ops at church and at a spa rehab facility just to save your career, not your family. His kids are hurt. There’s nothing to be proud of right now. Going to a spa facility for rehab is not serious treatment.

      Ben is always going to be a mess. Alcoholism is hard to recover from, but he’s never been 100% focused on getting better. He does what he wants. The day he takes it seriously is the day he’ll have a better chance at recovery. He’s one of those exhausting addicts who don’t care who they hurt. They will act like the sole victims every time.

    • kayla says:

      Not really. All his kids probably know is that he’s barely around. Is he going to leave “rehab” to go to Montana for the full vacation or just a day or two? Will the sober companion go with him or is he just going to wing it and then need another detox after he inevitably falls off the wagon? I doubt this is what Jen Garner meant when she said that they were going to give the kids “a special Christmas.” Their lives have been disrupted by all of his drama, doesn’t matter how hard Jen tries to make up for it. Passages is a joke. That’s not getting help or being serious about it. He’s allowed himself to be photographed stumbling around with blondes, really yukking it up at rehab, huh? I never realized that it was that much fun. There isn’t anything for them to be proud of IMO. Worst celeb father at the moment.

    • hannah says:

      I’d be embarrassed to be associated with him as a parent/wife/girlfriend/child/what have you. He’s lucky that his kids are younger. Even though some of them might have an idea of what is going on (esp. the oldest girl who goes to friends homes to google things) they are probably still in the stage where they think he’s the hero and don’t fully understand. Just wait until they’re older and they realize how he mistreated their mother for years or how he missed all of this time with them because he was off getting drunk somewhere and/or toying with his sobriety. That day is coming. I hope that Jen truly moves on and remarries a great man who can be the male role model / father figure to the kids that Ben never will be. They need that after all of this turmoil. Ben and Casey never had that and look how they turned out.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I hope this happens when she is ready. My heart breaks for those children because we all know that this won’t leave scars and they are pure and innocent victims of adult decisions and toxic issues. The girls will have the first man they love disappoint them and hurt them, and their son will never remember he ever lived with them.

  4. Chaine says:

    He looks awful in general, but I don’t think the pictures and video show anything much. The supposed stumbling and disorientation and him breaking away from the women all seem to me to be because their pathway was blocked by paparazzi that were blinding them with camera flashes.

    • Lady D says:

      It could also be that he went in the front door of the temple with the two women and went straight out the back door for a drink or two. Back to meet up with the two women and out the front door where the paps are waiting. Alcoholics can be very devious and they will find a way to drink.

      • LearningtheSystem says:

        There was a tweet (give that the credibility you desire) of someone who said Ben was in her meditation session that night and that he was disruptive – unwrapping and chewing gum and laughing. So, there is that.

  5. Mia4s says:

    I don’t know about stumbling from meditation but stumbling from detox tremors? Very possible and very sad.

    He really should not be in a serious relationship right now. He’s in a very bad place.

    • LadyT says:

      He looks and sounds a little “slow-motion” to me. Do they give medications to help with anxiety in rehab?

    • Imqrious2 says:

      My sister has been doing meditation for 30 odd years, teaching it for 15 years. She has NEVER been “dizzy or disoriented” fro it. Nor have I, even with use a few years under my belt. If anything, you get more clarity, not cloudiness. He’s a drunk, a selfish one at that. I feel so bad for his kids, esp. his eldest, who I’m sure has heard kids at school (and parents at the gates) gossiping.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Alcohol is just one of the substances he was probably abusing. Xanax detox can do this, and he may have mental health issues we don’t know about.
      I was told some of these guys who are acting out are bipolar and a few others have personality disorders. Who they are I don’t know, but it doesn’t negate their actions.

  6. Who ARE these people? says:

    The bottom line is this is sad, for him and for his children. Wasn’t his father alcoholic too? Am I imagining that?

    • KBB says:

      His dad has been in recovery for decades. He went away to rehab when Ben and Casey were teens or early 20s and has been sober ever since. I think he actually works as a sober coach now.

  7. Mumzy says:

    Why can’t he go into (actual) residential rehab and give his addictions the attention they need? This guy reportedly has multiple serious addictions and is fortunate enough to have the resources to go and *stay* in a place where he can give his total focus to his health and wellness. How likely is it that the drive-by rehab approach is going to actually help?

    • NicoleinSavannah,GA says:

      If he doesn’t choose to do it, I suppose we all have a clear view of what his ‘bottom’ will be. I hate this disease so much.

    • gidget says:

      He’s done that and left early: he was only a few weeks at the place in Utah and then there was speculation that he stayed only 5 days at the place in Minnesota (although there really isn’t any proof that he was even there). Point is, I guess he just doesn’t want to do that! He’s very stupid and selfish.

    • Bridget says:

      Because he doesn’t want to.

  8. Jayna says:

    If you watch the video, not photos, he doesn’t appear drunk. But who knows with him when you see him happy, which is rarely, and is often high. I only thought he was drunk and stumbling when the DM’s headline said he was, but then when anyone watched the actual video they posted on DM they didn’t see what DM was claiming. He’s with friends from there and/or a paid support system going from one place to another, all having to do with with alcohol treatment.

    He’s clearly struggling with sobriety to be attending so many meetings, but at least he’s trying and seems to be committed to whatever plan he has in place right now. Alcoholism isn’t funny. It’s a disease. And Ben seems to be in a bad place but trying. So no snark from me. I really wish him well.

    • Alexis says:

      That was my point too. It is just really, really sad.

    • Bridget says:

      Is he really trying though? The stuff that’s coming out doesn’t paint a picture of someone who wants sobriety, it’s someone who’s been told they need treatment in order to get something. As long as he gets to twist recovery around his own schedule and preferences, it’s not going to happen.

    • anon says:

      me too. those photos were needless. what is there to gain by showing pictures of someone struggling. leave the man some dignity! who wants to be pictured at their weakest and worst moments?

  9. Ma says:

    Is he currently doing inpatient rehab at Passages or still doing this outpatient Buddhist rehab stuff? There are conflicting reports. The article from US is garbage because he did not complete 30 days of rehab, he apparently left after less than a week and there are pics to prove it. The stuff in the tabloids is all over the place which leads me to believe that none of them have actual sources and they are just fumbling around.

    • Jayna says:

      None of them have sources, and when a photo is out of Ben going to anything to do with rehab, they regurgitate and maybe add one new line in to fill a page in their weekly mag.

    • kayla says:

      The last time we saw him going to those Buddhist meetings there were pro autograph hounds waiting for him with things for him to sign, plus paps. I think for him to get really and truly sober he’s going to have to do what his dad did, and move somewhere out of LA and get treatment, however long it takes. But we all know that he won’t do that. He’ll be on & off the wagon until he’s in the ground.

    • gidget says:

      Ever since they separated people have been trying to say that his team/her team leaked stuff… I never bought it. The tabloids, even People, seemed to be grasping and projecting and would contradict themselves on a weekly basis. It’s all for clicks. They don’t have real sources.

  10. corporatestepsister says:

    Lindsay does not strike me as the most put together woman for Ben’s issues.

    • brenda says:

      Why even bring her into this? She can’t “fix” Ben just like Jen never could. His problems are his own. It won’t be the next woman’s fault, either. Ben has to want to be sober. No one can do anything for him. Leading him to rehab and holding his hand while he checks in has achieved NOTHING and continues to be a huge waste of Jen Garner’s time and energy.

      • LadyT says:

        Ben is chosing to be with a woman that goes to the liquor store with him. That’s relevant to Ben’s decisions about sobriety. That’s not blaming her for his issues.

      • ursula says:

        Jen Garner went gambling in Vegas with him, which is just one of many things she did that was enabling. I wonder when Ben will choose the “right” woman for him and his many addictions?

    • Lady D says:

      You could be right, but in reality we don’t actually know a thing about her. We’ve seen a couple pictures, not a lot to go on. They could be together for the next 25 years or more.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Lindsay can be drunk 24 hours a day, and it is Ben’s choice to be with her. HE is the one who has to make better choices. HER decisions belong to her, and his belong to him.
      No need to slam Lindsay but at the same time, I don’t have sympathy for her either. She chooses to be there. If a bloated addict is her type then what can I say. My only judgy Mommy Mafia thought is why would she want to bring that gonif into her daughter’s life when he is a crap father to his own children.

      • miranda says:

        Nope, no sympathy for Lindsay. My guess is they both blame Jennifer Garner for his “problems”. To be clear, the Afflecks have been separated for quite a while now. By all accounts, Ben has been with Lindsay for years. He was seen with Lindsay all summer long and he re-entered rehab in the Fall. This is on him and she is part of the equation. I don’t even know why Jennifer Garner wants him in her children’s lives anymore. As an adult child of an alcoholic it takes a long time to mend the relationship. In many ways, it is never repaired. If he can’t be the father they need it is best to just let him go. It isn’t her problem anymore.

      • AA says:

        lol you really don’t know why Garner wants him around her kids? So she can be around him. Duh. She’ll never move on with another man. The bloated drunk literally the best that she can do.

      • JoJo says:

        I realize that Jen wants Ben to be a good/present father, but at this point, I do have a hard time believing that she continues to be this invested solely “for the kids.” Even if that truly is the case, it can’t be emotionally healthy for her to continue to be so involved in his rehab/recovery/life, etc. By all accounts, helping him back into rehab, going on xmas tree shopping excursions together, school meetings, every holiday, bringing his mom to church, etc. It keeps her in Ben’s orbit on a regular basis and makes it harder for her to move on, which from her recent comments, it doesn’t necessarily appear that she wants to.

      • LearningtheSystem says:

        Oh my goodness. She HAS moved on. He is the one who seems to tag along on her activities, IMO. She is doing what she’s always done with the kids. Is he? Or is he doing more than he’s previously done because he’s trying to get back his image as a good father?

        He has a right to attend the school functions – he’s a parent. Maybe the kids invited him to the tree lot. We only have the tabloids to suggest she is involved in his rehab – but maybe her involvement was making it a condition in their custody arrangements and that drove him there. He’s not likely to put that tidbit out there in the PR world, is he? Much better to say she had a personal interest in him because he’s not such a bad guy, really?

        She’s said she will work to maintain a friendship with him for the kids sake. She’s said it in several interviews. She actually said you don’t have a choice (I agree-if at all possible, it should be done). I know many, many women who have done this – me included. It really does matter to the kids to see the parents able to be friendly. They even know (per the tabs) that their dad has a new GF, and there are rumors Jen has had a relationship for a while now. I hope so, but if she doesn’t that’s ok. She’s moving on in every other area of her life and good for her.

        There are different outcomes in divorces. Some parents never speak and some actually manage to work out being around the kids together. Either way is what the parents are able to manage and what is best for the kids. Just because that isn’t what happened in “your” divorce situation doesn’t mean it cannot and should not happen in another’s.

      • JoJo says:

        @LTS – I don’t disagree with anything you said in terms of all divorces being different, etc., and I agree that some ex-couples are able to continue doing more things together for the kids, but I still can’t say I’m convinced she’s moved on. It’s just my opinion. Nothing to do with the fact that she’s not dating (at least publicly) …. I just don’t necessarily believe it. But time will tell, I guess.

  11. Wen says:

    As an avid meditator, I can tell you that stumbling from meditation is definitely not a thing. Anymore than standing up too fast or taking a yoga class will make you dizzy.

  12. JoJo says:

    DM created a headline about him stumbling/disoriented that was misleading. All you have to do is watch the video at the DM to see the woman he’s walking with pushes him away jokingly, so he veers away from her momentarily. Other than that, there’s nothing there.

    It also appears DM updated their article to show Ben and his mom meeting with Jen yesterday after church. Queue the inevitable Ben/Jen reconciliation rumors after this stint and the holidays, etc.

    • M says:

      Nah, x17 says that they left after 15 minutes. Didn’t seem like it went well at all.

      • JoJo says:

        Wonder what that meeting was about. In the DM picture, it looks like Ben was driving the car with his mom in the passenger side. (So, we know he’s driving vs. being driven around, is my point.)

      • JoJo says:

        The actual X17 article says they all met for lunch at SoHo House, but the video headline says they only stayed for 15 minutes. Doesn’t make much sense – typical for x17, I guess.

      • Andrea says:

        Actually it’s exactly what they’re known for. Embellishing and letting obsessed weirdos think that they had a cozy family lunch while conveniently leaving out the fact that they left after 15 minutes.

  13. Green Is Good says:

    Passages is a country club for rich people who pretend they want to get sober in order to keep the law, their families and friends off their backs.

  14. Alexis says:

    Okay, I officially think he should be left alone. It sounds like he is going through a lot and trying to work on his recovery. Hopefully. Regardless, it seems to me that he is struggling and doesn’t need cameras shoved in his face all the time.

    • ursula says:

      lmao. He doesn’t want to be left alone. It benefits him to be photographed at this celebrity drunk center, aka “rehab” in pap-friendly LA just like his smug pap strolls to Buddhist chanting rehab. If he were serious he’d be somewhere remote and not stumbling around with blondes.

  15. brenda says:

    Passages is a total joke. That’s not real rehab FFS. I don’t know much about this Buddhist rehab place but he still looks like a drunk so how effective has it really been? You know, a person can go and sit in the meetings and do the pap stroll for the media but then still drink at home. I don’t think he’s serious about his sobriety STILL.

    • NicoleinSavannah,GA says:

      I can’t believe people make money at these bullshite places. That is disgusting.

      • Lady D says:

        Taking advantage of the desperate is low, but the place he is attending sounds more like PR or a smoke screen that allows him to continue doing what he wants, while virtuously saying ‘hey I’m in rehab, you have to support me.’

  16. Samantha says:

    I can’t believe Ben is now my “favourite” out of Ben, Matt and Casey. I find Matt’s views so enraging that he’s worse than Ben in my book. Anyway, alcohol addiction is tough to beat, hope he stays healthy for his kids.

    • ursula says:

      Three-way tie for Biggest Loser IMO. Matt hasn’t abandoned his family to flaunt his mistress. Casey at least seems to have turned himself around despite earlier major problems. They’re all as problematic as each other but at a cellular level, Ben has done more damage to the people around him in his personal life than Matt and Casey combined.

      • Samantha says:

        Casey has been completely unapologetic and brazen about his sexual harassment lawsuits; which I recently learnt did not even include everything he did to those women; so he’s the worst to me. Also, his personal life just doesn’t get similar level of (or any) attention. The final divorce papers showed he and Summer were actually separated since 2014, yet no one knew.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Casey lacks the charm and intelligence of his brother and faux aww shucks boy next door earnestness of Damon. Straight up pissy creep.

  17. Carolnr says:

    I think Ben’s mom meeting with both Jen & Ben was as a mediator. Clearly Jen & Christine have and still seem to get along. I think IMO this meeting had to do with Ben’s rehab.
    This is so sad! It is almost Christmas & Ben must not be in any condition to be around his beautiful children!
    For Ben to not go to Lindsay’s sister wedding, he must have been pretty bad! He had been going to NY alot prior to this….

    • pam says:

      It doesn’t make sense that they meet for 15 minutes to discuss Ben’s rehab in front of the young kids. It probably took Jen and the kids longer to drive to Malibu than their meeting lasted. The shit must have really hit the fan.
      I do not see the big deal about him missing LS’s sister’s wedding. He’s “in inpatient rehab” in California. He shouldn’t be jetting across the country to be the +1 for someone’s wedding that he may not even know very well. It looks like he visited with LS before he checked himself in and it’s possible that she’s visited him while he’s been there. Who really knows?

      • Carmike says:

        If i were Lindsay, i would surely be disappointed that my boyfriend could not come to my sister’s wedding

        Are there pics out there of Ben, Christine, Jen & the children at lunch on Sun.?

        I think Ben has been a FUNCTIONING alcoholic for a long time but now with him going back to rehab for the 3rd time, i dont believe he is able to maintain his sobriety anymore!

      • AA says:

        Are you serious? You want him to leave REHAB for someone’s wedding? That’s such a reach. You must be impossible to please.

      • B says:

        He probably doesn’t even know the sister. Why fly across the country for the wedding of someone you barely know?

  18. julie says:

    Do the kids even know that he’s in rehab yet again or do you think they are told something else as to why he’s not around? This is, what? The fourth time that he’s been there in 2017? He went to the Cirque Lodge at the beginning of the year (and left early, not even there a month), then there were rumors that he went someplace in MN for about a minute. Then there were the daily trips to Buddhist meditation rehab. Now he’s in Passages Luxury Resort. I mean honestly, how do you even explain this to kids? He is pathetic.

  19. Nolly says:

    I love Ben so much! I wish he would be Ben again in 2015. After the divorce, he sank and is sinking his career. I do not think Jen should go back to him, but I really wish he would get better. I love Ben, but I’m angry at the wrong things he did and does.

  20. Nolly says:

    in the video of the Daily Mail he does not seem to be drunk, he just got unbalanced that the girl took his arm off his shoulders. he was laughing because he was in a good mood. simple

  21. Carmike says:

    @A
    Where did i say i would want someone to leave rehab to attend a wedding?
    I said i bet she was disappointed….that is only human emotion! You are obviously missing a sensitivity chip and cannot read!
    For some reason, you have alot of anger….maybe u are the one that is hard to please!!

  22. raincoaster says:

    Alcohol can cause peripheral neuropathy, where your feet go numb, and it also attacks the balance centre of the brain. I had a serious concussion last year, and haven’t been healing well, so I saw a specialist about it and my god, did I learn a few things.

    My neurologist explained that drunks stumble, sure, and everyone knows that, but they also stumble more than other people when they’re sober, both because their feet are numb and because of the brain damage. He told me this was worse for me because I’d had physical damage done to my brain in the accident, so the alcohol prevented it from healing. He also told me it’s reversible. Basically he scared me into moderation, and it’s STAGGERING how quickly the symptoms go away. I was never a daily drinker, but if you drink heavily on the weekend the effects are multiplied, relative to drinking the same amount but split up throughout the week. Once I cut back to a maximum of two drinks a day my neuropathy was gone in two weeks, and my balance should be normal in another month at this rate.

  23. RD says:

    So many of these comments are incredibly disheartening to me. My parents both suffered from addiction, and my brothers and I do as well. My siblings and I grew up in very broken homes. For us kids, it’s a struggle to control alcohol use and working too much; basically, we’re “addicted” to distractions and disconnecting ourselves from life. For our parents, it’s eating disorders and depression. Yesterday was the 4th anniversary of my father’s suicide. I watched him struggle arduously for his entire life with his ailments, and I do NOT find him to be selfish at all. He fought a very hard fight with everything he had. Therapy, treatments, medications, surgery; you name it, he tried it, and he gave it his all. Not one of us knows Ben Affleck personally, and maybe some of the commenters don’t have any personal experience with addiction or disordered thinking, so perhaps these judgemental and negative comments should be re-examined. Addiction, depression, anxiety…these are life-long struggles that can be rooted in some heavy stuff. Of course, people need to be held accountable, but I don’t think it benefits anyone to assume that addicts are selfish and undisciplined as a blanket statement; some of them are fighting every day for their families and their lives. You don’t know someone’s internal struggle; shame on YOU for hurling insults & judgment at them. It’s likely that Ben is well aware of what he’s missing and that makes a recovery even harder. And if not? Who in the hell are we to judge him?

  24. Jenfan says:

    Hilarious radar on line story this morning- of him dumping Lindsay and going back to Jen, cuz according to them, his cars are still in Jen’s property according to Arial photos.

    • JoJo says:

      I know. It’s Radar, so I don’t put stock in it (although they have gotten lucky at times. I think they were the ones that first outed the impending original split in 2015.) That said, I’m not beyond believing Jen is still waiting for Ben to ‘come around’ – for the 100th time! Sorry, I just kind of still believe that. And also, the Gossip Cop denials are always interesting – if only for the fact that they seem to always get denials on stories involving “Jen taking Ben back” but they haven’t gotten denials on the last few speculating that Ben is dumping Lindsay, etc. I don’t believe what’s told to GC is necessarily true – but it’s an indicator of what their reps want us to believe. How long will this be drawn out – people are treating it like the most ‘special snowflake’ split of all time.

      • Jenfan says:

        Eh I think these stories will be out there forever, even after the divorce is finalized. Now considering they have been officially separated for 2.5 years and that they filed for divorce 9 months ago – it is taking an awfully long time to finalize.
        What is interesting is a couple of stories that came out recently.
        1 that Ben did not go to Lindsay’s sister’s wedding, especially since they supposedly share an apartment on Manhattan’s west side.
        2 x17 story that they met for lunch Sunday in Malibu with his mom, but only stayed 15 minutes. And the pic of Ben shows him clean shaven which he has not been for months and months

        Meanwhile I actually am really enjoying Jen’s IG page – she has a whole thing on Bali g bread today.

      • JoJo says:

        @JenFan – Yeah, if he’s in intensive rehab, then I can understand why it might not be a good idea to fly across the country for a wedding where he’ll be surrounded by alcohol. No surprise, but the ROL video contradicts the online article – it says Ben will spend Xmas with the kids/Jen AND Lindsay – and in LA, not Montana.

      • JoJo says:

        And there it is. Gossip Cop denies …

  25. Caroline says:

    I am sure we will be hearing soon how Ben will be spending Christmas with his chidren & Jen.
    Hope he is spending Christmas with his children!