It’s constantly amusing to me that the talking points about the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and their exit are supposed to be “Harry and Meghan weren’t that important anyway, the Windsors will thrive without them” AND “Everything the Sussexes do overshadows the other royals, the Sussexes are breaking protocol!” Speaking of, the Daily Mail’s Talk of the Town claimed that Prince Charles was “particularly frustrated” last week because Meghan posted an Instagram about her visit to Mayhew, the animal charity for which she is a patron. Charles was mad because that one IG overshadowed his big environmental announcement at Davos. No mention of how the Duchess of Cambridge was also getting a lot of attention for her struggle-survey/Early Years launch in the exact same newscycle, huh? But the larger point of the DM piece is that the Sussexes refuse to coordinate messaging with the royal households. Which is probably true. But again, why should it matter if the Windsors are so happy to see the back of Harry and Meghan? On that note, apparently Charles and William want Harry and Meghan to know that they could totally come back to the UK to live if Canada doesn’t work out:
Prince Charles and Prince William have told Harry and Meghan that if they wanted to come back to Britain they could do so, without taking on any official duties. Senior royals are planning on giving the couple a safe haven in the UK if press intrusion gets too much for them in Canada, a source told The Sunday Times.
Under the terms of a historic deal thrashed out at Sandringham this month, the pair will cease to be working members of the Royal Family from this spring. A source told the paper: ‘The palace are very worried about the Sussexes, because they are vulnerable outside the embrace of the family. They are making contingency plans in case the Sussexes suddenly turn round and say: “Can we come back under your wing?” You could bring them back to Frogmore to look after them. They wouldn’t return to royal duties, but they could have a period of rehabilitation and recuperation.’
I sort of believe this? I think that’s why there wasn’t any information about the Sussexes giving up Frogmore Cottage – they’re still going to have a place to land in England if and when they come back at some point. But the whole idea of Harry and Meghan not being “protected” in Canada seems… odd/frustrating/interesting. Yes, H&M are not in the “royal fold” right now and that’s significant and it does mean that many in the press will treat them with less respect. But… Harry and Meghan were constantly disrespected and smeared when they were in the royal fold, so let’s not pretend that they could return to the UK and all would be forgiven.
Also: The Sun has a story about how the Queen offered Meghan and Harry a choice to live without ducal titles in 2018, before the wedding. Meaning, the Queen offered them a chance to just be married and not be titled, full-time working royals right away. Which I also believe, but I don’t think the Queen offered that because she wanted to ease Meghan into royal life, which is what “sources” claim. I think the Queen offered that because the Cambridges were already getting salty about everything involving Harry and Meghan, so the Queen attempted to “put Meghan in her untitled place” right away.
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How dare Evil Windsors even talk to OUR Royal couple?!
There seems to be an attempt by the British Media to completely destroy the Sussex. They refuse to stop talking about them…..it’s very odd
It’s odd but… it’s not odd at all. The news are full of Andy ZERO cooperation on the investigation of the ring of pedophiles, as FBI said. And H&M have to be around to bait the trolls, so Precious will be overshadowed.
Interesting gossip: I saw DM article about Andy and the investigation.. blah, blah..
It seems it’s full of BP PR team. Most of the comments are to claim his innocence and/or to say there was no crime.
Yeah, not buying the “We’re so concerned for your safety and emotional health with all those nasty reporters!” bullshit. If they cared, they’d’ve shut down the BM and RRs with “a word” in the “right ear(s)” long before it got to this. I think they (the BRF) are just pissed that they can’t control what goes out and when. If H&M are “under the wing”, it’d be a LOT easier to do. As of now, they don’t have a clue as to when/where/what H&M will put out there.
Also, I really doubt that Harry, a “Prince of the Blood” as they like to say, would’ve been so dissed as to not be offered a title with his marriage. I don’t think TQ is bright enough to think it’d make their transition “easier”.
If the RF really cared, they’d shut down the toxic press which is still abusing and harassing the Sussexes. They can start by shutting down Piss Morgan and banning all media from engaging the toxic Markles.
I am suspicious of the “Meghan made Kate cry gossip”. First of all if true, it made Kate seem like a diva trying to portray Meghan as the “bad one”. And if it were not true, Kate just let the rumor float out there. Kate and William were not “concerned” with Meghan and Harry, not in the least.
I keep thinking of this famous quote: When Britain entered WW2 in September 1939, a Tory MP urged the Queen Mother to take Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret to Canada to avoid the bombing. But she famously said: “The children won’t go without me. I won’t leave without the King. And the King will never leave.”
Harry should respond to his family in a similar manner: Meghan is done with your BS, I am also done with it, and we will not be separated. His grandmother stood firm and so should he.
How did one Instagram post overshadow prince Charles and struggle survey girl?
Seriously. If an IG post can overshadow an appearance at Davos, maybe the media strategy needs reconsidering.
And perhaps the Davos message needed to be a bit more “sincere” (ie: not taking SIXTEEN PRIVATE JETS IN 11 DAYS…and that’s not counting the EMPTY flights that were sent to pick up the Petulant Prince and his entourage).
Davos is a huge conference. Charles was one of many speakers. What kind of coverage did he expect?
To be fair it was 16,000 miles, not 16 jets (total number of jets was 4). But 4 jets in 11 days is still shocking!
“Struggle Survey Girl!” That was the laugh I needed lol!!!
Charles has been overshadowed from the get go. It’s so fcking stupid of him to complain about this CONSTANTLY, as if it matters that he win a popularity contest rather than do meaningful work and make a tangible difference. He got pissed at Diana for being more popular than him, and then he turned that frustration onto his sons. He can’t deal with anyone encroaching on his spotlight, but the simple fact of the matter is that he’s as bland as porridge and that’s the truth. He isn’t interesting in the slightest in the way the Queen isn’t interesting. He can be quite funny and genuinely charming when he wants to be (remember when he presented the weather?) but he had to grow into that. When he was younger, he was just the awkward guy with big ears. If he had simply accepted that this is who he is rather than throwing a strop every time someone around him had the nerve to shine, he would have actually been more popular.
I think the Queen offered that because the Cambridges were already getting salty about everything involving Harry and Meghan, so the Queen attempted to “put Meghan in her untitled place” right away.
And Meghan said, “No bitch. Give me my title. Just like Waity Katie has hers.” Of course I know she didnt say that but Im sure that was what she was thinking.
The ‘no title’ story makes no sense, so I take it as completely made up. Of course Harry would get a new title when he married, because even people who weren’t working royals (Edward) got titles.
I agree, that seems totally made up.
Yup, totally made up about the titles. It’s to make them appear grasping for power and attention seeking instead of a proper humble 2nd son and wife that should know their place. Is this the work of William again or the bored press?
None of the royal houses coordinate schedules or announcements. But it is a problem when Harry and Meghan (both of whom are no longer working royals) don’t coordinate with their former Firm? Was there some professional non-compete clause signed? Thou shalt not do good in the world if it makes the rest of us look lazy?
They’ve run out of things to complain about them, I guess. Now it’s “no schedule coordination, how dare they!”
They are without new things to complain and, to fill up the void, they are inventing new ones and bringing back the old.
Like I said, Andrew’s mess is resurfacing again and they need H&M to divert.
That sound you just heard was me snort-laughing when I read the last line of your post, nota.
“THOU SHALT NOT” lmao now I have an image in my head of Chaz & Workshy finger wagging.
If only I had that as a gif.
It is the muck raking royal reporters who are making more of a big deal about schedule coordination….all designed to make the Sussexes look bad, But we will one day find out who exactly is behind this. No doubt William has been worried about the charismatic Sussexes but the tabloid media hate the way the Sussexes refuse to dance to their tune.
I’m sure they knew they could come back anytime before they left and they will I’m sure. Isn’t that the reason they’re keeping the cottage and paying for it? The rest sounds like PR to me. Is the place they’re at now the home of the friend or have they moved into their home yet? If it’s the friend’s home then the press has known where they are for a few weeks but this may change once they move. I have no idea if their living situation is set or publicly known.
I’m sure they can come back any time, but I could do without the patronizing “Look after them” bit. We saw how you looked after them, BRF. That’s why they’re outta there.
The source for this article make the Sussexes decision-making process sound like they are 2 petulant, spoiled children who gave no though to anything when they made their life-altering decision. Source also continues the push to make Harry seem fragile, unstable, and vulnerable.
I’m sure they kept the house as ONE of their homes. For F***s sake, most people at their level of wealth own more than one home. My former boss had a downtown apartment, a farm, an island home, a hunting lodge (all of these within a 30 mile radius) an out-of-state ski lodge, a home on a Caribbean island and guaranteed lodging at a family owned golf course in another country. They kept Frogmore because they will stay there when they are in England. Wealthy people move between multiple homes. Often they buy multiple sets of clothing etc to keep in each home, so there is very little personal inconvenience as they move from house to house. The rich live differently because they can. That’s just the way it is.
That’s complete BS about the title. There would have been no reason NOT to give Meghan a title. She was already working on behalf of the RF at the time. This is the RF scrambling to create a narrative that doesn’t make them look like fools. Also the “welcome back” is likely BS as well–this is them covering their asses because no one thought about how it would look to cast out the first black member of the RF. Especially with the tabloids gunning for the Sussexes now, the RF has to have some kind of deniability in place in case the worst happens and there’s another tunnel accident, which I’m starting to think the tabloids actually want and would try to cause, especially the way the tabloids are egging on the Markles. Even now, the RF could be asking the tabloids to back off. They would do so if they actually gave a damn about the Sussexes, as a show of good faith. This is turning out to be either the greatest public love story of the 20th century thus far–with all that this couple has endured to be together. Or it could end up being the greatest tragedy if harm comes to them.
@Lanne I’ll be honest
*places tinfoil tiara on head*
I was very young when Diana died, only 12. Harry’s age. I know there are countless conspiracy theories, and while I know they’re highly unlikely, a thought of mine that I had often while Harry remained in the UK is that he would be killed too. The seaplanes and private jets etc. he and Meghan have used in the past couple of weeks to get to and around Canada made me a little freaked out. I know it’s far fetched but I kept thinking “what if they try to kill them?!”
Just as a follow up to your comment.
i dont think the windsors will dare that because many million people are convinced that diana was killed by the firm by direct order of queen and charles. if they did this to meghan and archie , the end of brf is for sure. when diana dies there was no soical media , but the way they handled meghan, andrew and epstein is very clear and it is in internet forever. they cant do without putting the heir to risk.
@Sass If they had been going to kill Diana they would have done it before she walked away with £17m as a divorce settlement surely? She died because she refused the security which was offered to her, the driver was drunk, she wasn’t wearing a seatbelt when quite possibly the paparazzi were chasing the car.
Given the conspiracy theories that have developed since, it has not helped the BRF. If she had lived, we might well have had a totally different view of her, given what her lifestyle might have been. That is, of course conjecture, but there is a lot of that about, especially around here.
@jodieg “quite possibly the paparazzi were chasing the car.” ?? You can argue semantics about whether Diana died from paparazzi or from a drunk driver, but there is absolutely no way you can honestly argue that she wasn’t be chased by a number of paparazzi at the time of her death (and that they actually took pictures of her as she lay dying without offering aid).
jodieg in many theories that diana was killed because she was pregnant with his boyfriend . can you imagine the future king of england who is defender of chruch of england has half brown muslim sister? there are many loose ends in those case. there are many questions why diana ambulance was in roadside for longtime and didnt rush to hospital right away. they are very much invloved in jeffrey muder too with many figures. the next day andrew came with queen with bog smile say it all. the brf has diplomatic immunity which means even they muder with first degree they cant be arrested or prosceute them. those tiara events are mainly for that only.
@ Guestwho Which is why I said quite possibly. @ aria Theories are just that. It was a French amubulance, they were working on her, what horse had they got in that race.
I’m hoping Harry and Meghan stay safe. I think the difference between Harry and Diana’s situation is Diana was threatening to expose the royal family for what they are. She was talking and leaking all kinds of stuff. She was a wild card and they didn’t know what she was going to do next. In Harry’s situation, the queen knows they are innocent and the are not the ones leaking crap. They still haven’t threatened to expose the RF, and if they did all they would expose is that William was behind the smear campaign. I’m hoping for this reason they are safe. To date the only thing harry and Meghan are guilty of is having more ‘star quality’. Given how much mud the Cambs have slung at the Sussex’s, the Sussex’s haven’t slung any mud back at them. The RF should be worried about William more than harry.
I can see the queen offering to delay the titles for a period to give Meghan time to adjust. Kate had a whole decade to train for duchessing, but Meghan came in “cold” and I can see the queen thinking she might need time to adjust. Harry said no thanks, though, because he knew Meghan and knew she was ready to hit the ground running, which she was. This delayed title thing seems like one more instance of the firm really underestimating Meghan.
Titles are always bestowed on the day of the marriage of a royal
again, titles are bestowed on the day of the wedding. There’s no reason to have not extended one for Meghan. That wasn’t even a part of the discussion. Had that possibility been there, it would have been discussed. I’m kind of annoyed that my comment got threadjacked by diana murder conspiracies. That wasn’t my point at all. My point is that NOW the tabloids are gunning for the Sussexes in a way that could get someone killed, and the RF is doing NOTHING to contain it. And this is presumably for a grandson beloved by the queen and a son beloved by a father and a brother beloved by a sibling. The “no title for Meghan” nonsense is the RF trying to rewrite history. These are people for whom precedent is everything, and these is simply no precedent for denying the wife of the 6th in line to the throne a title.
I also don’t believe that story about the titles. Every story about Meghan was that she wanted to “hit the ground running” working for the royals and she was concerned about doing a good job. There was nothing out there about her staying out of the limelight at the beginning. They barely got a honeymoon before they were out making appearances and Meghan seemed all in. If she wanted out of the limelight then her pregnancy would have been an ideal time to ask for that and no one would have questioned it, at least not much. This is just another “she asked for it” story by the media to justify how they have hounded Meghan and Harry for the past 2 years. It’s sickening.
QEII is old enough to remember Grace Kelly marrying into Monaco and that she had been unhappy about giving up all acting. I can believe she did want to ease the way for MM bearing in mind all the history and that MM was new to the country and everything.
Kate waited but it was not a done deal. It took 8 years, a major breakup and some cooling off periods (on William’s part). She would have been training to no avail if William had decided at any of those points in time to move on and date others.
I’m beginning to wonder if all the nasty people (family and media hacks) are pushing hard for a Sussex divorce or a Sussex death. I mean they are ALL rabid in their fury and righteousness.
I really believe the ultimate goal is for Harry returning to the family fold a broken man, deserting Meghan and Archie, seeking solace and forgiveness in their comforting arms, and they’ll do anything within their power to achieve that. And I’m referring to the press, the lunatic racist segment and the RF. I always believed that at the height of the vituperative press Meghan was receiving during her pregnancy, they were hoping for a miscarriage. And the fact that the royal family never stepped in at that time to stop those attacks against a pregnant woman makes me really believe they were complicit in that as well.
I recall that the comments in the media (bloggers) sounded the same. Harry would “come to his senses” and marry someone like Kate. After the wedding then the hope was there would be no children. Then when one came along, the hope was Harry would leave with Archie and return to the fold.I think Archie would have had a bad time if they had stayed being compared to the “perfect” Cambridge children, unfavorably, by the media. As usual the Queen turned a blind eye to the awful media and blogger comments about her own grandson and his wife.
“Please come back to us so we can give you a safe haven by continually throwing you under the bus, leaking information and allowing you to be savaged by the rabid press without our saying a word in your defense.”
With that kind of offer you’re best off remaining in Canada, Harry and Meghan.
BRF: “Oh Hai Sussexes! Why don’t you come back! We neeeed you! Grandmama can’t protect her fave pedo Andy without y’all to dump on! Bill and Cathy are pitching a fit that they can’t keep throwing you under the bus anymore and that they have to do allllll their Royal “work”! Putting royal kids on calendars only buys you so much good will! Chuck also needs you in his throwing under the bus rotation!
Sussexes: “Sod off!”
Especially as the BBC are running a story today that the Epstein investigators are accusing Andrew and the RF of providing “absolutely no cooperation” with the FBI’s inquiries. *And* there have been another two stories in as many days about the amount of time he spent with Ghislaine Maxwell, including at Buckingham Palace. I hope this means the net is tightening (particularly on Maxwell).
Especially as the BBC are running a story today that the Epstein investigators are accusing Andrew and the RF of providing “absolutely no cooperation” with the FBI’s inquiries. *And* there have been another two stories in as many days about the amount of time he spent with Ghislaine Maxwell, including at Buckingham Palace. I hope this means the net is tightening (particularly on Maxwell).
Didn’t the Queens statement say that they’d review this situation a year from now? Technically it doesn’t even go into effect until the spring, so why the rush for them to get back to Windsor so soon? This doesn’t make any sense. You’d think they’d want things to settle down instead of constant clickbait articles.
when I see that they sacked the press guy at Kensington, maybe, and some other courtiers, too.
Hahahahahahaha THEY DONT WANNA COME BACK.
Tan France has an insta story today (and in his book and interviews) re why he will no longer live in the UK—much as he loves it—due to way too much racial animosity hurled his way in the street now and before he was famous.
and he’s not exactly living in a place in the US known for its racial diversity. he’s living in UTAH and married to a (former?) mormon.
Oh come on, he lived in London, minorities are the majority. More likely his strict family doesn’t approve of his lifestyle and it suits him to be thousands of miles away.
They’re not working royals so coordinate messaging for what? They can’t have it both ways. This is another reason they should’ve kept H&M close. Really tired of the fragile narrative. Fragile people don’t do what Harry and Meghan have done imo. Yes, they’re rich royals but I have respect for anyone who puts their foot down and walks away from a life they’ve known (and in Harry’s case the only life he’s known) because it is destroying them. They have created clear boundaries with their families and stuck to them even if it means not speaking again. That takes a lot of strength to me.
This story is weird bc we’ve been hearing for the past several weeks that this was H&M’s choice, they weren’t banished, it’s not exile, etc.
So if they weren’t forced out, then why wouldn’t they be able to come back to the UK to live? Harry is the son of the future king. Of course he and his family can come back to the UK whenever they want. It’s such a weird angle to take on it.
I don’t believe the title thing for a minute. They lost sight of the optics after the wedding, but leading up to it the queen and Charles were very aware of how it would look if they treated the black American differently from Kate or other women who married in. Of course they were going to get new titles.
The Sunday Times story was by Tim Shipman and it WAS weird as hell!
Multiple mentions of the Sussexes being fragile and vulnerable and under severe strain, attributed to unnamed royal sources. Mentions of the problems with paps in Vancouver Island when really it seems like after their legal letter no more pictures of them have appeared in the press and the Sussexes are handling it.
And then the thing about coming back to Frogmore for a period of rehabilitation, it made me think of Jane Eyre and Mrs Rochester getting locked in the attic. Also thrown in maybe they can stay at Sandringham for a month or at a property Charles owns in Wales. What?!? I’m sure they are happier in the amazing mansion they are at in Canada! The creepy references to bringing them back to the embrace of the family–they’ve been gone just a few weeks!
Then the thing that they think Harry might want to return but Meghan is committed to staying out of the UK.
It was weird, a bit sinister really, plus the fact Shipman is generally a political not a royal reporter.
Wasn’t Shipman the reporter who, in April (I think it was April), wrote that article about Will being jealous/the exiling to Africa, and W giving the tacit go ahead to the press re: using T.Markle against Meghan in exchange for not talking about the rose bush trimming, and how Harry saw that as the tide turning against him.
This new article seems so sinister to me. Come back to the UK and hide in one of our castles, but don’t do any work, and we’ll protect you. More like they want to keep them prisoner. Why in the world would they come back?
They did the exact same thing to Diana, especially after Diana died and could not defend herself. Charles cousins who seem rather spiteful to me said Diana was “damaged” when she married Charles. Anything to excuse Charles bad behavior with Mrs Parker Bowles. It is sickening that Meghan and Harry are labeled “fragile” and “ill”.
@GuestWho
Yep that was Shipman
The whole article was almost gothic in tone. Like trying to lure Harry back to involuntarily commit him
Totally off topic. But I live near where that are currently staying and a local radio station played British and commonwealth music all weekend to welcome them. All the promo spots were with British accents and the called themselves union Jack instead of Jack. It was pretty funny.
Also random citizens are walking up to photographers and yelling at them to leave the Sussexs alone. A local water taxi company refused to take a TV crew anywhere near where they are staying even though it’s the off season and he could have used the money. I think they might not need a haven.
That’s nice to hear.
I live near them as well and Victoria and environs have become very protective of them. Canadians, especially Vancouver Islanders, are quite different about media intrusion and have been very vocal about demanding photogs and reporters leave them the eff alone. We rarely hear about them on the news or in the papers. Makes me kinda proud!
sounds like they HAVE a non-toxic haven.
They probably think it’s heaven, we’re very protective of them here on the Island.
So nice to read this!
@rocky that’s really nice, sounds like a lovely place. I might have to move there 😍.
Canadians…….up yet another level of awesomeness 👌👌👍 🥂
And I’m beginning to wonder if the Sussexes are even still there. Whose to say they didn’t exit in the middle of the night and fly off someplace else. That’s what I would do if I had their money, connections, and ability to make it happen. Wouldn’t that be a laugh. Everyone outside the gate baying for them, and they’re someplace else.
I hope they have left. I think it was a mistake for them to accept the loan of a house from a Russian oligarch. It’s not good for a British royal to owe a favour to a Russian oligarch.
Has that been proven, Snowy? The only place I saw that info was on the DM.
Lady D, I didn’t see it on the DM, but on a Louise Mensch tweet. Apparently David Foster was trying to help the career of the Russian singer whose father is a Russian oligarch. There are photos of them and David Foster together.
@snowy: That has been categorically disproven. It’s not true. It was never true. Didn’t happen. Isn’t happening.
Not sure if it’s true, but it was reported that they are staying at the home of Frank Guistra, a Canadian billionaire. I seriously doubt that they are staying with a Russian oligarch….
Says who that the house belongs to a Russian oligarch???
LMAO, Louise Mensch???
She’s certainly a very credible source who has provided several totally reliable & true scoops in her tweets over the years. My personal fave was probably this one:
“My sources say the death penalty, for espionage, being considered for @StevenKBannon. I am pro-life and take no pleasure in reporting this.”
You mean the 5 question survey, developed after 8 long years, is NOT doing it for the windsors? “Oh my” as I clutch my pearls.🙄🙄
I wonder if William and Kate will consider leaving the firm a la Harry and Meghan style.
They would;
-still keep their HRH title
-Daddy Charles would still continue to fund them as they work toward financial independence
-they could keep their Kensington Palace apartment
-they could finally quit working (their dream)
Though not as charismatic as Harry and Meghan, they would get plenty of book offers, interview deals etc which would help them become extremely wealthy.
It’s the life both have wanted since the beginning, the wealth and privilege/privacy without any of the responsibility.
Nope. As the heir of the heir, William’s practically bound to his position. Of course he *could* leave if he really wanted to, but I’m sure the Firm would do everything in its power to keep it from happening. Also…Kate would never willingly leave the spoils of royal life behind. Even though she’s looked very unhappy and worn down over the past year, I’m sure the titles and status are worth it for her.
now meghan is gone, she can use all the tiara she wants. i want to know that who will the be gaurdian of the crown jewls . i think only blue bloods and trust. i want to see if camilla and kate can get hold of it?
Maybe if they were newly weds and transitioning but now? Nah. Kate worked too hard to not be Queen consort. And Will’s ego is too big. He’s gonna sit on that throne one way or another.
@Cat Ca: I agree with you and IMO the current status quo gives the Cambridges a lot of leverage over Prince Charles & TQ. I predict W&K will continue to do as they please (not work more etc.) because if someone puts pressure on them they can now threaten to leave as well…
Yes! Times are very different now than 100 years ago. Being royal then meant great privilege, power and wealth – who in society at that time could compete?
Now? Celebrities have wealth and privilege beyond belief – and without any of the responsibility of having to be accountable to “the public” like royalty is now.
I’m sure both William and Harry were conditioned from birth to believe they had 1 role in life (the heir and the spare), but Meghan showed Harry that he didn’t have to stay and accept what he had been told was destined for him.
Maybe now that Harry has provided a blueprint, William might think he can leave too. William and Kate will definitely receive many lucrative offers which can set them and their children up for life.
They could retire to Norfolk and become full-time Turnip Toffs like they have always wanted. Really, what’s the incentive to stay at a job he or she has never wanted in the first place? They now know there is a way out.
I think william is conflicted in the sense he doesn’t want to work, at all, but his entire self-worth is attached to him one day being king. Harry knows he can still achieve great things outside of the monarchy, William can’t even think for himself, and has never had to ‘try’ at anything. I think he will likely want to be king, just so that when he’s in charge he can slack off as much as he wants and there’s no queen or Charles to answer to. Also when the Cambridge’s go back to slacking off in a few weeks time, their excuse will be ‘we don’t want to put too much pressure on them, they are all the monarchy has’.
Nope . William will never leave. The throne is the goal. Without it what is he? He’s not Harry who is respected for Invictus and Sentebale.
William will never give up the power he has because he’s an heir. The complaining is to lower people’s expectations.
William won’t EVER leave until he gets his access to the money. Harry never had that option so nothing holding H&M in UK after all the abuse from press was allowed by the family.
After William gets his hands on the money he will do nothing as king. He won’t even fight to keep the monarchy, he will probably be divorced by then and a billionaire. He’s not going to be spending his time cutting ribbons.
@Cat Ca, that might have been a possibility that William was considering, even just a few years ago, but I don’t think it’s something that might actually happen for a lot of different reasons.
For one thing, it always struck me as a kind of empty threat that William could use to get back at his family and get them to sign off on whatever he wanted. “Let me take a gap year or else I’ll walk” “Let me go to St. Andrews or else I’ll leave the RF” “Let me go to Sandhurst and put off taking on royal duties or else I’ll quit” “Let me do [x] or else I’ll become unhappy and I’ll just leave” He’s done this for a decade + at this point, all with the intention of putting off the duties and responsibilities that come with being king, because he find them boring and can’t be bothered to do it. And the royals, all things said and done, complied with a certain amount of fear. He had lost his mother in a tragic way, and they didn’t want to seem inconsiderate, and he rode that sentiment to basically get them to let him do whatever he wanted for years.
For another, Kate probably won’t let him. It’s been widely rumoured that they allowed him to marry Kate because she would supposedly be a big help in keeping him within the royal fold, even though everyone at the palace would have preferred someone of more aristocratic background than Kate. While I don’t think William ever really intended to just up and leave, it always seemed like he was voicing a threat/pipe dream, the Queen and others probably decided not to take the chance and do whatever will let him be happy.
I don’t think William likes the particulars of his role, but at this point, he doesn’t really care. He has other ways of throwing his weight around rather than threatening people with quitting if he doesn’t get his way. I think he still treats certain parts of his role with contempt (like the bits where he has to engage and give a crap about people), but he has a lot more respect and standing with the RF now and he probably won’t be leaving at any point. Not with 3 kids and one who’s firmly now been established as a member of the main line.
why would they return to the u.k.? nothing for them there.
Is it just me or does the line “…but they could have a period of rehabilitation and recuperation.’” sound odd? The word “rehabilitation” sounds like they are going to brainwash the Sussex’s until the fall in line. It just really strikes me as wrong somehow.
Also, where was all this compassion, care and worrying the last 2 years when Meghan was dragged over the coals and your newest great-grandson was being portrayed as a chimp? Imho, this is much too little, much too late and is only being said to make the various other players look good.
For me, what sounds odd is the notion that they might need it in the first place. It’s pretty clear that the royals don’t actually know anything about how the press works in Vancouver Island. What this indicates to me is that they don’t care enough to find out about what the situation is like there, which makes all of their concern even more bogus than it already was. The lack of knowledge about this makes me think that they haven’t actually talked to the Sussexes in any length since they left. They don’t know anything about what’s going on and how they’re living their life. I would not be surprised in the slightest if both Charles and William genuinely believed that Vancouver Island is being swarmed by paps or something, but won’t do anything to find out, they’re just working off a handwavey assumption.
This is all part of the larger effort to “Dianna” them and make them seem crazy. The article went on (and on) about how fragile the couple are and how they could take some time in the UK to rehabilitate and recurperate themselves – and that they could use any number of “bolt holes” like Sandringham or Charles house in Wales. Sounds a lot like they want to keep them prisoner to be honest. Super creepy.
That’s what I thought as well, like they want them under house arrest. These people need to get a grip. What exactly did the Sussexes do that was so terrible? Work hard for their patronage’s, attract more interest in the Royal family with a bit of energy and appeal to a wider demographic globally, and basically not suck up to the press who was incredibly biased and disrespectful. Oh right, take private jets and live in an expensive home, just like the other Royals, who have huge estates. By the way, Meghan was flying on private jets before she met Harry and had nice things that she paid for herself. Where I live the average cost of a home, before renovations is $1.6M, so a historic and extensive renovation like Frogmore, with security considerations, is not unreasonable. The reaction to it was, so now the public can shove that money in a hole that will never benefit them.They heard what the press and the public were saying, about tax funding, being dropped like hot bricks by the Royal family, and they left. The only reason they would even put this story out is because the narrative isn’t the slam dunk the Royal family expected and their pettiness and hypocrisy is on full display.
Yes! It is just like Diana described the gaslighting about how she was crazy and unwell and needed to be put under someone’s care. Eerily reminiscent
Oh good they read the comments – there is NO WAY anywhere in world will be worse than jolly ole England look at how they’ve been treated?! Keep walking Sussexes
I‘ve read the article in the Sunday Times and to me it sounded more like Harry can come back any time, he can bring Meghan, if he must.
Same issue had another hatchet job of how Harry‘s money will not be enough to get Meghan the lifestyle she wants.
Yes, I think a subtle and rather sinister nuance that’s been largely missed in these latest PR articles is how focused the Firm supposedly is on reconnecting with Harry and Harry alone. At this point it’s obvious that the royal family:
-never wanted Harry to marry Meghan in the first place
-hoped that they would divorce quickly without any “complications” (aka no children)
-expected that bullying Meghan would successfully push her out and make Harry “see reason” in their eyes
Instead, they’ve managed to alienate the 2nd most popular member of the family and bring in a level of scrutiny that they’ve tried to avoid since Diana’s death.
Totally agree. This is about believing and portraying Harry as weak and trying to apply pressure on him to dump his wife and child and come home.
I agree Beach Dreams. It has a very sinister tilt to it and makes me understand why a Meghan came back for a few days but refused to bring her son. That spoke volumes to me. And I think she knows Harry has no interest in being “rehabilitated”
I just lmao at any talk about “the lifestyle Meghan want” bs.
Woman willing *walked away* from tiara’s and all those royal trappings. If she was worried about wanting that lifestyle, she would have been more resistant wrt leaving. Instead, she’s clearly happy and continuing to live her life far away from it.
Before she married Harry she lived a comfortable, low-key life in Toronto. How do they know what type of lifestyle Meghan wants to live when her life before Harry never showed any indication she ever *wanted* to live some extravagant lifestyle?
Plus, it ignores the fact that Meghan has her own damn millions and doesn’t have to rely sorley on Harry to provide for her. Point of fact is, she is STILL making money off her residuals for all her film and TV work right now. Articles like that Sunday Times one seem to clearly be used to deal with Aristo women who’ve never held down a real job a day in their lives and whose sole goal is to marry an Aristo guy who will keep them in that Aristo lifestyle for life. NOT an independent minded working woman who not only had her own career but her own millions in the bank from it either.
And isn’t that what is the most maddening? They have erased her history and painted her as this Marie Antoinette type and it just doesn’t line up with the facts. But it fits in with the bias against her, so that’s the story they are selling to the world.
Yeah, because the Sussexes would be so much safer in England than they are in Canada. Please. The royal family just wants to bring the Sussexes back under their control. I don’t think they believed the Sussexes would REALLY tap out and now that they have, EVERYONE’S panicking. Normal Bill and Keen Katie are looking at a life of REAL work and they’ve put up the Bat-signal.
So far it’s the UK media sending paps and publishing the photos, so the danger if any remains from the UK, not Canada. That article was written with the condescending attitude that Canada is some frontier land full of danger and with no laws to protect its citizens. That same colonizer attitude that reminds everyone why Canada needs to ditch its British head of state.
@Nic919, Absolutely. The Canadian media hasn’t spent near the amount of time and energy on the Sussexes that the UK and even the American media have. I think the Canadian media, much like most Canadians, are trying to respect the Sussexes wishes. They came to Canada to get away from all the noise, so we’re letting them do that.
The British people take Canadians for granted. They like us when we can send our young men to fight and die in their wars but other than that they mostly ignore us. Which suits me fine.
Not only Canada, I hope ALL Commonwealth countries are paying close attention to the extent of the ugliness and spite that the U.K. has to dish to Poc and non-brits in general.
Time for some re-evaluations, methinks. 😒
I think the Sussexes are heaving a huge sigh of relief being here. As others have posted, we are very protective of them and there have only been a few articles about them in the Canadian press, all very respectful. It’s the American and British scumballs who have come here en masse to try to track them down and they were actually being yelled at by locals to f*ck off. They got wayyyy more negative attention than they ever bargained for. I can imagine Meghan and Harry watching the evening news over a bottle of wine laughing their heads off at the photogs being chased off by their neighbours.
Also, let’s be real: if Harry and Meghan has stayed in the UK, carving out an independent life for themselves would be next to impossible. Any contacts or whatever they could make would be forever concerned of pissing off the Royal Family by working with them, especially media types.
There are WAY less companies and media companies ingrained in UK culture and wanting access to the Royal Family in North America than their are in the UK. Harry and Meghan have *way* more money making opportunities and being independent in the US and Canada than they ever do or ever would by staying in the UK.
Also, I think if Diana had not stayed in the UK/Europe the hounding by the media that eventually led to her death might have played out much differently. I suspect Harry probably thinks that at least. Probably one of the main reasons he and Meghan have put almost 5000 miles (over 7000 km) and 8 times zones between them and the British Media/Royal Family.
Ok, that’s good, Jaded —- “….put up the bat-signal.” Thanks for that laugh. 😂
I wish I could take credit for it but it was Kerwood’s usual acerbic wit!
The Bat Signal Lol send help Kate is hiding in the Tristar room again.
The Bat Signal Lol send help Kate is hiding in the crown jewel vault room again. I remember a story about how Zkate liked adult coloring books. No time for hobbies now ma’am time for your 5 day week.
Lol. This is hilarious. The royal family shot themselves in the foot getting rid of harry and Meghan. No one in that family is making waves out side of the uk. No one is talking about them anymore. Even Kate’s and William’s event today is being overshadowed by bigger events. They are trying to save face now by trying to bring harry and Meghan back.
Ah, the tried but true “Be careful what you wish for, you may get it,” has risen up and bitten the RF in the a$$..
Yep “be careful what you wish for” came quick And bit them hard.” Reading about Kobe’s passing made me think…these two brothers are for all intents and purposes never planning to speak again except forced pleasantries. Of all people you would think Will would have known how fragile life can be after his mother died so young. But he still pushed away one of the only people who ever understood him for jealousy and ego and a wife who looks traumatized to be around him. If he had only ever worked as hard at finding a passion for something (anything besides gardening) as he worked at trying to destroy his brother and SIL… enjoy that throne alone surrounded by people who barely tolerate you FFKW
The sheer audacity to expect that Harry and Meghan continue to coordinate their calenders with Charles and the Cambridges is just jaw dropping. They LEFT you fools! You more or less kicked them out, won’t allow them to use their HRH styles, expect them to pay back the renovations on Frogmore to the tax payers, but you still think they should give a single flying sh-t about how you look or what your schedule is?? The entitlement here is just outstanding.
I really, really, really dislike the Royal Family.
@Kaiser; i think you’re sooo right on all of the royal scoop. That’s all I gotta say. Got some good nose gurl
Seem like they are belatedly realizing, to quote Lyndon Johnson, that it is probably better to have the Sussexes inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
It begs the question, why didn’t they assure a safe haven in the U.K. from press intrusion while they lived there? Charles I await your response.
Charles and William can both stay mad about silly things like overshadowing IG posts, but are completely silent or unsympathetic on human hurt and pain. They cling only to the crown and have obviously detached themselves from all other human relations.
The BRF hasn’t looked this bad since the Queen bungled things after Diana’s death. They’ve once again shown that they are cold, cruel, racist and utterly unfeeling about anything but the monarchy. Maybe, hopefully, this might be the tipping point that makes Charles put into practice what he has been preaching.
One more time for those in the back:
“Cold, cruel,racist and utterly unfeeling”.
I would add “extremely dim” to that list.
Amen to that.
This is all about control. Funny how they emphasize that the Sussexes would not return to full time royal duties. Instead, let’s just tuck them away in Sandringham, far out of sight where they can’t take focus away from the “important royals.”
Unfortunately for them, as long as Meghan has access to her Instagram account, they can still be easily overshadowed.
Yeah, I don’t think they’re likely to want to bring little Archie back any time soon either. There could be some monkey business – and I don’t mean racist cartoons.
Really, all of this fanfic is just an excuse to run photos of Meghan and to drag her.
They don’t have any info. They don’t have any new photos. They are not reliable sources! The sooner we all stop clicking on them, the sooner they will give up on it. (And please, do not click on the Toxic Thomas story!) I don’t even click on his stuff here. Enough with him. He’s worse than the Kardashians.
Meghan knew what she was doing when she left Archie in Canada earlier this month. momma bear had to protect her cub.
Agree, hate when they even run stories with Markle and the real crazy daughter of his. Don’t click on none of that.
There are so many good points being made in this discussion I can’t stop and applaud them all or I’d never get back to my day.
I had to see if there’s a full moon. Otherwise what is there to explain the extreme creepiness levels attained by both Toxic Tom and the BRF? There are words straight out of Tom’s mouth and indirectly from the BRF that remind me eerily of fake concern trolling in anticipation of something truly horrible.
I wonder if even mere rumors of a sit down interview are causing these reactions that seem almost like veiled threats against their very safety.
And clearly the powerful tabloid press has a vested interest in stopping Meghan’s lawsuit. I’m still chilled by how Piers Morgan had the audacity to drag Kobe Bryant’s tragic death into his interview with Tom and how Tom oddly responded to that.
Both the BRF and the tabloids colluded in driving the Sussexes out, so now they both have strongly vested interests in seeing them be silent.
I realize I have had to don a tinfoil tiara here. But Harry himself has painted this battle and the powerful forces he’s resisting as the ones that killed his mother. I sometimes wonder if he’s wondered or actually discovered something more sinister in that mix than just the press behavior.
Too much creepy controlling behavior around the Sussexes! Let them go.
I agree Guest With Cat. Lainie has an interesting post today — and she brings receipts — about the Cambridges colluding with the Daily Mail on the Cambridge Kids calendar. Seems, William is still doing everything he can to undermine the Sussexes and to encourage press to go after them. Doesn’t make me think the Firm wants them home. They want them gone.
The Firm definitely wants them home, but only on their terms. They want them home so that they can continue to beat on them. They’re absolutely pissed because they think it’s their god given right to treat their own family members like sh-t.
Gaslighting of the highest order.
Look British Media and Royal Family: you not only allowed Archie (remember him?) to be called a chimpanzee, (which Hello! Magazine used the chimpanzee imagery to be used when talking about them *again* just this past week), but the Media rehired the guy who did it AND the Royal Family did nothing to stop it or protect Archie from it. And you both are STILL ignoring Archie when it comes to this “coming back” stuff because what you REALLY want is Harry by himself to come back and for him to leave Meghan and Archie behind all together so you can erase them from history/the equation.
THIS is why you – the BM and RF – are miscalculating this and why Harry and Meghan, (but mostly Harry, who you really want) aren’t coming back. The more the British media and Royal Family aren’t into protecting Archie, the more and stronger Harry’s resolve to NEVER come back permanently, grows. Getting paped was NEVER the main problem here. It was the relentless racist and sexist hounding of Meghan and the clear signs that Archie was going to start getting the exact same type of dehumanizing press treatment – and be compelty unprotected by it from the Royal Family – that had them chucking up deuces and peacing out.
The Royal Family and British Media want to control them. But you know who is REALLY controlling Harry and Meghan? Archie is. Wanting to protect and give their little boy the most protection against the dehumanization that comparing him to a chimp was, and getting him away from a family that Harry was convinced would protect his wife, but not only could never be bothered to (while they *can* be bothered to issue denials about Kate’s botox or ride to church with Epstein party-pal Andrew), but were clearly going to allow his son to receive the same treatment.
Archie was the main game changer. His well being controls every decision Harry and Meghan make now. However, it’s clear the British Media and Royal Family don’t understand this at all. More fools them.
@morrigan01, very well said. The BRF and the Sussex haters seem determined to ghost little Archie and pretend that he doesn’t exist, when they aren’t wailing about how much they miss the wee tot!
They can throw all the titles and the cottages and the tiaras at the Sussexes but what they can’t do is guarantee that Archie’s life won’t be a living hell in the BRF. Harry and Meghan WILL probably do a partial return, ON THEIR TERMS, especially after the Queen passes. But I don’t think they will ever commit to a FULL return. No blackamoor brooches and pictures of monkeys for Archie, thank you very much.
Well-said. Like many here, I share the opinion that as soon as Archie was born and Harry realized that his crap family would not do one damn thing to protect his son from racism, it was the final straw. He was already fed up from his childhood and from the relentless, racist, press scrutiny on his wife(sanctioned by his family) but bringing a mixed-race child into the world was the game-changer. He could see an endless future where his child would be cannon fodder for his relatives and that had him ready to throw hands.
I am amazed at how dim the royal family is on this. I cannot see Harry and Meghan coming back without major changes(which his family is incapable of making). And now the Royals have lost the most charismatic, creative, empathetic members of their family. Lol- granny, Charles , and Normal Bill are short-sighted. Not surprising when all have shown a failure of imagination.
The BRF really expects you to not only tolerate the constant media abuse, refuses to help you with said media abuse even though they have the means to do so, but also abuses you and treats you like sh-t and expects you to stay quiet and support them anyway.
F-ck them. The more I think about this, the angrier I get. They do this to literally everyone. I don’t really care for Kate, but I fully understand why she wanted to spend so much time with her own family in Bucklebury. Her mother might be a gold digging social climber and all, but at least she’s not out here treating her own flesh and blood like this. The fact that the Middletons might actually be the healthiest family out of the bunch says so damn much.
“ Archie was the main game changer. His well being controls every decision Harry and Meghan make now. However, it’s clear the British Media and Royal Family don’t understand this at all. More fools them.”
The BM and the RF are fueled by power and image, period. Human concerns about a child’s welfare are a distant five billion and twenty six million on their priority scale.
This is a bunch of BS. Titles are given the day of the marriage. The optics of Harry marrying a biracial divorcee and not getting a title the day of her wedding would be worse than it is now. It would have been insulting, to say the least. So, no…I don’t believe any of this report.
Frogmore is theirs to come and go as they please. This way they aren’t dependent on William or Charles for a place to say when they are working in the UK. Also, since the trail and airport pics of Meghan, Archie, and Harry, there haven’t been any pictures of them. I doubt they are staying cooped up in their home. The paps just aren’t snapping pics of them, knowing they could be booted out of the country after being arrested for violating their privacy.
I am really sick and tired of the fragile story line they keep pushing. Walking away from a difficult situation and putting your family first is a sign of strength. Harry and Meghan are two very strong people that put themselves and Archie first.
The RF are just upset they lost their two scapegoats. They are not a family and they don’t care about Harry and Meghan’s well being.
The whole thing where they’re calling them fragile is just such prototypical abusive family bullshit. When you finally stand up for yourself and get yourself out of that situation is exactly the time when the people responsible for your abuse start asking, “Oh sweetie, are you okay? This is so UNLIKE you. You’ve never NOT acted like a doormat to our vicious abuse before. Can’t you see that we’re just WORRIED about you?” F-cking classic.
This, more than anything else for me, exposes the sh-tshow that is the royal family. To go off on a tangent, this is exactly why I will never, in a million years, side with anyone who tries to blame Diana for the breakdown of her marriage. THIS is what she had to deal with. And she not only had to deal with this in the family that she married into, but also the family that she was born into, which are the Spencers. The aristocracy is rife with such abusive, sh-tty, toxic families. I do not blame her even a little bit for behaving as she did in public. The fact that she had the relative courage to say, “this is mESSED UP,” and leave says a great deal.
“ ….people responsible for your abuse start asking, “Oh sweetie, are you okay? This is so UNLIKE you. You’ve never NOT acted like a doormat to our vicious abuse before. Can’t you see that we’re just WORRIED about you?”
Yep—just went through this shaking off a controlling family member. Such folks are never more “caring” then when you boot their hateful asses to the curb.
We wish Harry and Meghan, a long life and a happy marriage. Not gorgetting Archie , who will grow up to be a strong handsome healthy boy.
Amen! I’ll be praying for their safety and happiness. I lived through Diana’s tragedy. I don’t like how the toxic media and the British Royal Family seem to be recreating that same ugly energy against Harry, Meghan and Archie.
Sonia Thompson has a great article in Forbes, entitled: Meghan Markle And Prince Harry’s Exit From Royal Life Is A Warning For Every Brand. In article she has the following interesting paragraph:
———-Last week, I saw a meme that had made “Meghan Markle” a verb, meaning “to value yourself and mental health enough to up and leave a room, situation, environment in which your authentic self is not welcomed or wanted.”————
Now that’s a good use of Meghan’s name. It sure beats MeAgain, MeGain, or Megexit. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
JA…read that article, was hesitant at first, but found it very nuanced reporting.
This is just emotional bullying, to simon case and the rest of that dummy’s pr team JUST SHUT UP ALREADY.
Oh Harry is fragile he would never leave us if he wasn’t fragile. 🤮. It all if you are sociopaths who raised more sociopaths because you no nothing else and you never realized you didn’t know Harry because you are too self centered to notice him or care about his feelings…
You could sense the FEAR in that article! The RF is petrified of the Sussexs making them insignificant. I mean DM is even bragging about how Meghan’s Instagram post overshadowed a full day of engagements by a future king and katiekeen! I’d be embarrassed by that and try to hide it if I were them or in the courtiers/palace’s shoes.
They are in for a surprise once the foundation launches.
The fools are still trying to attack their mental health😤 how will that make them consider getting back??!! At least the article ended with highlighting how successful they will be and how many people (including me) looked up properties in BC.
When is the victory parade? When are the haters going to celebrate the success of their campaign? Didn’t they get what they wanted?
These pathetic people drove the Sussex family out of England. But they haven’t been able to go 24 hours without the Sussexes. There are more cover stories about Harry and Meghan (mostly Meghan) now than there were at the height of the campaign against her, when she was pregnant.
Is it because the haters took a few moments to realize that all they had left were the CAMBRIDGES? Oh and the sex offender. Was that grim reality too much for them? It was enough to send Piers Morgan rushing back into the arms of Thomas Markle.
I decided that I was going to avoid certain pro-Cambridge websites because 1) I don’t like the Cambridges and 2) the comments about the Sussexes are even more hateful than before. These people thought they’d have Harry and Meghan to kick around forever. They never thought that the Sussex family would say ‘fuck you’ and leave. Now they’re STUCK with the Cambridges. Imagine how hard it must have been to be a fan of Normal Bill and Keen Katie when that Sad Little Survey hit the streets.
So now they’re letting the Sussexes know that the welcome mat is still out. Good luck with that one, losers.
They thought they’d have Meghan and Harry to kick around forever, because kicking them around made them feel good about themselves and their pathetic lives. That’s why they’re still doing it. They don’t actually care about the Cambridges, they only care about sh-tting on the Sussexes. That’s it.
This 💯. Why are they so bitter if this is what they wanted. You’d think they’d be happy. I think Meghan and Harry will just get on with their lives. If they come back to the U.K., they’ll do it for their patronages and work commitments, not to placate the royals or losers like Piers the stalker. Let the haters stew.
If I were in H&Ms’ situation I would wait until like month 7 before letting anyone know if she gets pregnant again. It felt like they intentionally ramped up the attacks on Meghan when she got pregnant like they wanted to solve the “ we don’t want them to have a baby problem” in the most sociopathic way possible. Wear sack dresses for a year and maybe go dark for months (they have proven good at that despite efforts to paint her as attention seeking) emerge when the baby is past the highest risk of miscarriage.
There is a lot to unpack here, and I think it’s worth unpacking, because there’s a lot here that gives an insight into the tabloid press in the UK and the royal family themselves.
For starters, the tabloid press don’t have a stated outcome in what happens to Meghan and Harry. They’re not invested in whether they stay with the RF or if they leave, or the particulars of what Meghan and Harry do either way. Their intention is to treat them poorly. Their intention is to write stories about them that are vicious and inflammatory. The purpose of the tabloids is to exploit the worst impulses of their readers. They’re creating these headlines and writing these stories with the intent of engendering an emotional response, because that sells.
This is why the tabloid media in the UK will not leave these two alone. Their purpose was to never drive them away in the first place. Their purpose is to be cruel. The cruelty is the point, because it sells. Their readership is addicted to being cruel to those they believe deserve their viciousness for whatever reason. You cannot protect yourself from them, because they’ll just find something else about you to target. All you can do is rise above it, and hold the crux of their behaviour accountable. People get a real sense of moral righteousness when they can pass judgement on the actions of others. The tabloids has weaponized that instinctive rush people feel when they do that and monetized it to a T. As long as money is the main focal point for the tabloids, they have absolutely no incentive to change their business model.
Second, the behaviour of the RF is a textbook example of how toxic and manipulative families function. People have mentioned in this comments section that this type of behaviour is quite sinister. This behaviour is sinister, not in the sense that they’re hiding something or they’re planning a conspiracy, but in the sense that they’re not and never will be honest about their intentions. The BRF is doing what all abusive families do when the targets of their abuse choose to remove themselves and draw clear boundaries. They’re trying to act nice and sweet in the hopes that their target will lower their defenses and be induced into coming back, at which point they’ll start up their abusive behaviour once again.
“Oh, I’m just so CONCERNED about you, please come back, we’re all just so WORRIED about how you’ll be!” When you’re in a position where your family has never shown you an ounce of respect, let alone kindness, this can be very tempting to deal with. You really do think, “Oh but they’re being so nice! They’ve probably changed!” It makes you so happy to see them treating you so well for a change, especially if that’s all you’ve wanted for your whole life. But it’s just a tactic. They’re switching tacks to get you to come back so that they can do what they always do, which is treat you like shit.
William and Charles and everyone else in the RF have absolutely no intention of protecting Harry or Meghan or anyone else. They’re just pissed that Harry and Meghan are beyond their control, that they won’t let themselves be jerked around by their sh-tty behaviour. If they were actually interested in repairing their relationship, they’d do that quietly, not feed it to the tabloids so that the world knows just how generous they’re being. They’re more interested in looking good rather than actually doing good, in giving the appearance of being a loving family (and thereby implying that Harry is the “bad” and “abusive” one for leaving them) who are just so saddened by everything that happened. They want to browbeat Harry back into falling in line, with or without Meghan.
Watching all of this, it’s really quite interesting to me just how little difference there is between the likes of Thomas Markle and the Windsors. They’re both cut from the same cloth. The Windsors, for all of their titles, their money, their good breeding, their status, these material trappings that they so viciously and pettily guard as signifiers of respect, are absolutely no better than the trash that are the white Markles. These people will quibble about insignificant details like dukedoms, HRH, who curtsies to who and when, gab at length about their oh so pedigreed inbred lineage and their illustrious background, all while behaving just like the people they look down their noses at. All but an accident of birth separates the Windsors from the white Markles. If there’s ever a good argument for why monarchies are garbage as a whole, you couldn’t find a better example.
A that is very insightful. They really are two sides of a coin. Honestly I love this site. I feel like reading comments on here has helped me go outside my window to the world and understand the undercurrents of so many news and events. This for instance, I thought gosh these poor kids both have terrible families, but you made me see they both have basically the same family.
They do! I’ve pointed this out from the beginning, and others have as well. Any time someone brings up the Markles as an example of how “trashy” Meghan and her family is, I always have to laugh, because have you MET the Windsors? Royal and aristocratic history is filled with relatives who are exactly like the Markles, but they get some type of respect simply because they’re born into royalty/nobility.
It goes to show you– you can have all the money in the world, outrank everyone else in your own country, have all the jewelry and the fancy clothes and talk in a cut glass posh accent, have 20 titles and whatever else, but if you act like trash, you are trash, and no amount of silk sheets and marble halls will change that.
They want the Sussexes back because, since they left the UK, nobody’s interested in what is left of the Royal Family. Harry and Meghan have such global appeal and they are the only ones that keep the international community interested in the RF. Without them the RF has its lights dimmed. Globally that is. IMHO.
So you’re just going to ignore Kate’s holocaust survivor photographs? Unreal, that you can’t do it for even one day.
What the hell are you talking about? Can’t do what for a day?
Harry and Meghan will be fine with global support as Oprah says 1000 percent. Harry said he taking a leap of faith into a new life with his family. I want them to know the majority of the global community is with them. The vile British tabs and their vile followers are left to implode on their own vomit. What the Sussexes are doing is making a future for their family without the strings of the royal family. This is what all the bellyaching is about. Harry has impressed me so far with the way he and his wife have decided to move into the future. These royals smelled something was up when they came back without Archie. As one postered stated this is all about Archie’s well-being and happiness. They know if Meghan was treated this cruelly for the past 3 years my God what will they do to little Archie. If an adult has the nerve to call an innocent baby a monkey on the day of his birth then we know Archie and any other siblings will be constant tabloid targets. Harry and Meghan know this too. There is no way they are going to allow anyone to hurt their children. Strong papa bear and Strong mama bear are bearing their teeth.
The British press and the Windsors wanted Meghan and Harry gone. They’re gone, now leave them alone.
Why won’t these people leave this couple alone?This is some real weirdo sh*t from all angles.Both sets of toxic families,press and so called Meghan haters refuse to go away;must be like a damn bad dream to Meghan and Harry.I have never seen such bullsh*t. It’s driving me mad so can anyone imagine what they are going through.Wtf is wrong with these effn demons?