Prince Harry on whether he would ever return to the UK to be a working royal: ‘NO.’

I wonder how many snippets/clips 60 Minutes will release ahead of the Sunday airing of their interview with Prince Harry. I don’t think of 60 Minutes as an outlet which plays around with tabloid storylines, but you’ve also got to believe that they know they’re sitting on one of their biggest interviews of the year. Which might explain 60 Minutes dropping this clip online last night. Anderson Cooper asks Prince Harry: “Can you see a day when you would return as a full-time member of the Royal Family?” Harry says “NO” before Anderson even finishes the question.

LOL. That man said: I’m never going back there to live. He said, I’ll visit, maybe. But I’m not working with my father and brother ever again. Which brings me to that ITV trailer – Tom Bradby’s interview with Harry was clearly done around the same time (just before Christmas) and I’m sure the questions will be somewhat similar. The thing about the Bradby interview is that I think it’s a 90-minute piece, so Harry will really be given the space to get a lot off his chest. Which is why I think the trailer was deceptively edited – so many “royal reporters” are writing full screeds on Harry’s “I would like to get my father back, I would like to get my brother back.”

See what I mean? There’s clearly a huge “BUT” coming after Harry says that. I imagine it will be some version of what Harry has said before: “I would like to get my father back, I would like to get my brother back… but that’s impossible, because they’ve made it clear that there will be no accountability.”

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  1. girl_ninja says:

    Nope. And NOPE. The way that Harry protects his wife, children, mother in law and himself is to be admired. That family and institution have dug their feet in and continue to allow lies and attacks to flow. I’m disgusted more everyday with Charles and especially Will. What a disgrace.

    • Seaflower says:

      +1

    • Ginger says:

      I agree but sadly there are some supporters that think Harry will never do enough. It’s exhausting. That iTV clip really triggered them. The UK media edited it that way for a reason and they fell for it. I guess the UK media really can sway public opinion.

      • Mary Pester says:

        A lot of the British people have forgotten how to think for themselves! It’s as if since Harry left their has been a collective brainwashing and they have become sheep, spoon fed their opinions by the British rags, who in tern have been spoon fed what to print by the Palace! I get so frustrated with them I could scream. Some of the absolute dross they come out with after the media have manipulated a story is ridiculous, and when you ask them to explain how they came to that conclusion or print a link to an actual story with proof, they can’t and even then, they still can’t see they are wrong!! I hope Harry stays safely away from the Royal circus. He and his family are safe and happy where they are. The Royals in the UK are not really safe and FAR from happy. Britain, the country I was born in and love, the country who I served in the military, has become a vicious toxic place to live

    • Hooboy says:

      I don’t think they “continue” so much as use their influence to get the articles planted which fan the flames, proving Harry’s point every time!

      • DouchesOfCambridge says:

        I hope Harry complains and explains everything so they sht their panties everytime the try to leak or plant something out there.

    • May Bench says:

      Well said and I concur.

  2. TikiChica says:

    One week to go! I can’t wait to read the book.

    • IForget says:

      EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I’m so giddy! Cannot wait. I’m leaving my Christmas decorations up until the 10th, because this is my last present 😀

      • Couch potato says:

        The old tradition in my country is to keep it up until the 20th day of yule = 13th of jan, so you’re within the frame of christmas in my book

    • Lolo86lf says:

      I can’t wait for my ebook copy to pop up on my iPad.

    • NotTheOne says:

      I can’t wait until Harry reads me the audiobook!

    • Carmen says:

      It should be clear to everyone by now that Harry is driving this train. But don’t expect the haters to lay off Meghan when the book comes out. In fact, they will probably come down on her harder than ever. Some conspiracy loons are already spreading rumors that she, not Harry, wrote the book.

      • Snuffles says:

        I had time yesterday and began debating with this idiot in the YouTube comments. They kept insisting that Meghan is controlling weak minded, mentally incompetent Harry. To which I responded, so if you think Harry is mentally incompetent, then he would just be exchanging one puppeteer for another one. They clearly only see Harry as a puppet to be used for their own agendas. Harry couldn’t possibly be strong and clear minded enough to make these decisions in their eyes.

      • Couch potato says:

        Did you ask how the weak minded man could survive 2 tours to Afhanistan?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Couch potato, what they’ve started doing is lumping Harry in with Andrew and attacking WHY the UK had troops in Afghanistan or the Falklands to being with. Openly saying that their service, particularly Harry’s, *has no value and does not matter* because X choices by the UK government. This is a new deranger theme that has just surfaced in the past week. Along with the old weird theme that he was never really there, was protected in a bunker, whatever.

      • Debbie says:

        Then, what these derangers are doing is denigrating the service of ALL the troops who fought for the UK, not just one individual. (And this is coming from someone who does not reflexively salute all service members or military people or says, “Thank you for your service,” because I know they’re human and sometimes do outrageous things like anyone else in society.).

  3. ThatsNotOkay says:

    So that was a very sly question Cooper asked and they posted. Harry won’t ever be a full-time Royal again. But it could be half in, half out is still on the table for him, provided he doesn’t have to play the Rota game. Sounds like the offer from 2020 is still on the table exactly as it was, but the briefings must stop. William would never agree to that.

    What’s also interesting is that William doesn’t see or care that his children will suffer the same fate as he and Harry have. With everyone hating George because George “when my father is king he’s gonna get you” Wales is going to brief against his siblings to cover for himself unless Charlotte and Louis have seen the signs and hightailed it into the private sector before that fracturing could begin. William is a terrible father and person because he refuses to do better on any front.

    • Lucy2 says:

      I think he is fully done. He tried to do the part-time thing and they made his life hell, and after the way he was treated at his grandmothers funeral, I think he is just fully done. As he should be.

      • Couch potato says:

        Yeah, in one clip where he talked about the 5 options he got at the Sandringham summit, he said he chose nr 3. I don’t remember if that was half in half out, but when he talked about the press release they’d sign his name on, while he knew nothing about it, he said “we’re done” or something. I don’t think that’s something any of them want anymore.

      • Becks1 says:

        I wish he had talked more about those options, bc I also got the impression he chose half in/half out (which was their original proposal) and then somehow that changed. I wonder if he was given the options from the Queen and/or Charles, and then William showed up ranting and raving and refused to accept those options. And then the signed press statement came out and he was probably like “okay so we’re out.”

      • Liz Version 700k says:

        Agreed! That No was half a beat short of a HELL NO! He is done and no one with sense or feelings could blame him. Only Kate and her mom are unclear about why they would leave

    • Startup Spouse says:

      I see what you’re saying but respectfully disagree. H&M are done with that life. They are done with the institution. They’re never going back.

      I think H is trying very hard to separate the people and the institution. That’s why he won’t reveal the dirt on W like the affairs. That’s the person. He wants his brother with no institutional strings. Unfortunately the Windsors aren’t smart enough to figure out how to make that happen PLUS they have a lot of s—t to hide so they need a sacrificial lamb.

      They will never reconcile.

    • Snuffles says:

      Harry will NEVER return to a situation where he has to deal with the Royal Rota in ANY capacity, where he’s required to run everything he does by palace courtiers for approval, and where Charles and William continue to brief against him and his wife (and children when they become older).

      Now, if Charles and William can agree to stop doing all of the above, there is a world where I can see Harry and Meghan show up to family events and maybe work together on projects where both of their interests align.

      I’m not holding my breath for any of the above, but maybe a miracle could happen. I think Charles would be the most likely to agree, but until William gets some therapy, he’s going to dig in his heels.

      • Emily says:

        William would never get therapy because he’s too fragile to confront the system he’s in. He’d rather believe he’s omnipotent.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Harry’s done. He’s explained why in the Netflix docuseries.

      • Snuffles says:

        Harry in 1000% done with the INSTITUTION, but he still would like reconnect with his FAMILY. The problem is, Charles and William don’t know how to separate the two. Weirdly enough, the Queen seemed to be able to. Once Harry and Meghan left, she seemed perfectly happy just being granny.

      • terra says:

        @Snuffles, not to stick up for the Queen or anything – she definitely had many sins to her name, chief among them (in my eyes, at least) the coddling of her rapist son – but I think that the crown was genuinely a duty to the Queen, leaning towards a burden. She likely truly would have been happier as a quiet wife and mother on an estate somewhere in the countryside (because LBR, she absolutely had enormous privilege even before her uncle abdicated). Her father was much the same way.

        Chuck and Will, however? They’re far more like ol’ Edward VIII than George VI and Lizzy. To them it’s not a duty, not something they do because they feel they have to – it’s their BIRTHRIGHT. They’re the special ones, so everyone else should do as they say. God chose them, don’t you know?

        It’s an interesting case study of what being born next in line does to a developing child’s psyche. Same with Margaret and Andrew about being born next-next in line. Harry, it seems, is the exception that proves the rule.

    • Z says:

      I think any hope or idea of going back half in would have left their hearts and minds after horrendous way they treated him and Meghan during funeral fiasco. I think he’s done with those people

      • Liz Version 700k says:

        The funeral was next level sociopathic behavior. The example we all needed to know where William got his awful traits from …Charles is just as petty and childish. Harry inherited the best traits of his mom and William inherited or just embraced the worst traits of his entire family

    • Sunday says:

      No, Harry won’t return in any capacity. I also disagree that George will throw his siblings under the bus in the same way Harry has been treated. That’s part of the problem, that the firm (and William especially) will never allow his children (heir, spare, or other) to be treated worse than Harry’s mixed race children in the media. No, to William, Harry and his entire family were always meant to be the scape goats for the Wails forever, and that’s precisely why Harry will never go back.

      • Tessa says:

        I think considering all George will not be kind to his siblings and think himself better. Unless he is well influenced by his friends rather than parents he is going down the same path .there are articles saying that the keen s yell George about his future. He not his siblings will pose for dynasty photos. Charles later would invite him for visits to talk about his future role.while I doubt George will be as awful as will he could get bossy when each of his siblings choose future spouse

      • Sunday says:

        @Tessa, all that might be true, but it doesn’t negate the fact that Harry’s children will always be the lowest hanging fruit and that William will have absolutely zero qualms about throwing them to the wolves to protect his own children, and if the tabloids need really juicy red meat to bury a story about George or prop him up, the real no-holds-barred options for the Wails will be the Sussexes, always.

      • Becks1 says:

        The Sussexes will always be the low-hanging fruit, but Margaret was low hanging fruit for a long time as well, and so was Andrew and his marriage and kids. Then it became all about William and Harry.

        I think the British press will try, but in 20 years time I imagine there will only be so much public interest in these people that the public rarely sees (Archie and Lili) as opposed to the Wales’ children. And the younger siblings will absolutely be used to distract from George’s issues/problems/scandals with William’s full consent. Why wouldn’t it happen that way? William’s issue with Harry (well one of them) is that Harry was not willing to be used as William’s scapegoat anymore. But William thinks that is his proper role and place in the system and there’s nothing wrong with it. So it is with Louis and Charlotte. Their place in the system is to protect George.

        I hope I’m wrong because its a messed up system and no sibling or cousin should be used as the scapegoat for another. And I do think if H&M had stayed in the UK, their children 100% would have been fed to the wolves in exchange for George/Charlotte/Louis. But I think putting them in California is going to protect them a great deal.

      • Sunday says:

        @Becks what you’ve outlined is absolutely correct in the way that the heir/spare dynamic typically works, and I don’t doubt for a second that Charlotte and Louis will get some of that treatment (I mean, they already sort of are). What I’m saying is that William has never believed that the rules apply to him, and that the nature of the hatred that William and Kate have for Meghan and the Sussex children is heads and shoulders above any animosity that Margaret, Andrew, even Fergie had to face in the past. I don’t see that just fading away, not with incandescent William in the mix.

        Therefore, while I do agree that William would have been more likely to play along with the typical wolf-throwing for C & L should Harry have married someone less of a superstar (and with considerably less melanin), I think he will be incandescent at the thought of HIS children being picked apart while Meghan’s children are hidden away in California. Being in California hasn’t stopped the press from continuing to attack Meghan. The British tabloids don’t need access to A & L to write about them; they’ll just make up something and splash it on the cover and spin thousands of stories about it. Being reclusive will only make them more fascinating to the public – just look at the interest rare photos of A & L get versus in-person appearances by the Wails children. As you say, in 20 years time the press will need stories, and Archie and Lili will have to emerge to live their lives as adults at some point. Plus, William will be king at that point (vomit) and once again I don’t think he’ll allow his kids as cannon fodder while the Sussexes are thriving at university or in their personal careers.

        Sure, the tabloids will write about cheeky Louis and say grotesque things about Charlotte’s looks, but when they really need a story, when they need Rose Hanbury levels of cover-up, the focus will be fully on the Sussexes, because William will never let Harry “win” by sacrificing his own children when Harry’s will do just as well. The hierarchy of white supremacy trumps the heir/spare dynamic all day, every day.

      • EmF999 says:

        @Becks1 – COVID finally got me so I’ve spent the last couple of days rewatching The Crown. I’m still on Season 2 but watching how Margaret was treated and indeed some of the Duke of Windsor episodes certainly underline how everyone is fair game for attack as long as the monarch is protected. Plus ca change…

      • Becks1 says:

        @Sunday we can just agree to disagree here. William may not WANT to use his children in that way, but he 100% will if he has to. Protecting the heir is the #1 priority, always. If stories about Archie and Lili aren’t selling in the UK in 20 years, then it will have to be Charlotte and Louis.

      • Nic919 says:

        There is a really good thread by Heidi Moore outlining how Harry has been the scapegoat and William the golden child in the narcissistic family dynamic which has continued for generations. Harry is being attacked because he is rejecting that role.

        And the kids still in that family will be treated the same unless something is done to fundamentally change the dynamics.

    • ChillinginDC says:

      I think at this point he won’t go back if they have to deal with the RR ever. And now with them doing their own events, he and Meghan have banned journalists from attending their events when they can. Also they are able to move about quietly without the RR taking potshots at them and the organizations they help.

      I do really think if the RF had agreed to half in/half out Harry would still be doing what he could to help the Crown, but even after they left, I think the constant briefings from William that never stopped for over 2 years has him over it.

    • SAS says:

      @ThatsNotOkay, honestly my biggest takeaway from the H&M doco was that we can expect press intrusion to start like clockwork in the next 5 years for George and Charlotte. And it’s staggering that Will has bought so much into this monstrous system that he’s feeding his kids to it!

    • Weetzie says:

      I imagine that seeing Charles and William turn on each other really hit Harry even harder once he became a father. Looking at Archie and seeing how the institution poisons relationships between parents and children, siblings, and spouses must have been terrifying. I don’t have children, but I have an adult niece and nephew I helped raise and I love them like crazy. The thought of being in an environment that could turn them into my enemies – and me into someone who would willingly harm them – is revolting. Good on Harry for saving himself and his family.

  4. sunny says:

    Can’t wait. Love to see him owning his narrative. This man really said, “we are never, never, never getting back together” with his whole chest.

  5. Alexandria says:

    Go back to be abused? The rats can sign up themselves.

  6. Amy Bee says:

    I said it yesterday that I felt that the ITV was cut in a way to protect the royal family. It does feel like a but is missing. It’s funny that the press are not complaining about the ITV promo was cut like they did with the Netflix trailer. I haven’t seen any of the Royal reporters talking about the newest CBS clip. They’re probably silent because Harry shuts down their notion that he wants to return to the fold.

  7. Becks1 says:

    NOPE. I love how he didn’t even let Anderson finish the question. Just a quick, emphatic, NO.

    Anyone who isn’t blinded by hate and racism can see that Harry is living his best life right now, why would he go back to where he was before?

  8. dominique says:

    Going back is simply no longer an option , for either side. There is zero reason for H&M to do so, and on the BRF side, it really doesn’t seem like they want them back either.
    Honestly it is better this way, if one side wanted a return, it would only cause more strife and drama.

  9. OzJennifer says:

    The speed with which he says NO! Go Harry!

  10. Lolo86lf says:

    Of course the answer is categoric no. Why would he go back to England to have his wife and children abused?

    • Carmen says:

      They want him to go back without his wife and children. They honestly expect him to abandon his family and come scampering back across the pond with his tail between his legs. And if he doesn’t, it’s because Meghan bewitched him or brainwashed him or worked roots on him or whatever the hell asinine reason they can think up next.

  11. Cel2495 says:

    Hahaha! Yes Harry! We all knew he will never go back but salty island kept up wit he hat nonsense. Now he is telling them clearly, NO.

    Still they will be obsessing over him and his darling wife. Those clowns and his terrible family are the worst

    • Liz Version 700k says:

      The weird ownership they feel over this man is so creepy. Can you get restraining orders against an entire family?

      • Debbie says:

        or an entire media? Country? Bueller?

      • cws says:

        The same weird ownership is always on display. I remember when Archie was born, reading DEMANDS to see him, basically amounting to: We pay you, we OWN you, therefore you owe us your child NOW, bring him out.
        It was as if Meghan’s ancestors escaped slavery in America only for her to be enslaved in Britain

  12. Harper says:

    Of course he’s not going back. It would last maybe one week or two before Burger King is shouting at Harry “You overshadowed me!” or Kate is calling Camilla Tominey to write a story that Meghan is hugging children because she wants Kate’s role as the early years expert. Then it’s how the royal cousins playdate was ruined when Archie stole Louis’ truck and how Lilibet is jealous that Charlotte walks ahead of her in family procession. This is the level on which Burger King and Kate operate. It’s insanity, but it’s reality. As Meghan said, people believe this stuff. Harry will never play this game again.

  13. CJT says:

    To be fair, he answered “no” to the question of being a “FULL TIME working Royal” again. I think it shows Harry isn’t a massive Bridge burner and it’s engrained in him to be of service to queen and country so perhaps in his heart there’s still that pang. He’s emotionally intelligent so there must be a lot to unpack and process for him, lot of internal conflict I would imagine. If the BRF softened at all, I could see him visiting and “helping” more with their star wattage, Lord knows his family needs it.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I hope you will watch the the Netflix docuseries. Harry explains why he decided to leave outright. He’s not going back not even half in.

    • Jan says:

      It’s too late for that. When you become a parent, crap that you would put up with, is not the abuse you will tolerate for your children.
      Before the blow up in 2019 Goodall said, she took the baby’s and wave it, and Harry told her Archie is not doing any of that waving stuff.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      CJT, I think the half in and half out was doomed from the beginning. H&M would have done it well. They would have continued to be more popular than any of the rest of them. There’s no way that would have ended well for H&M.

      When Harry offered the half in and half out, he believed he could make it work by taking the rrs out of the equation. The rrs can never be taken out of the equation as we’ve seen since they’ve been gone. Frankly, being all of the way out was the best thing that happened. Harry will not be working for the Firm again and he will not be abandoning his wife and children. The Firm will continue to throw the Sussexes under the bus, but it is harder to do when no one knows what they’re doing.

      It will be interesting to see if Harry will allow his father to use him for global attention in future at the big Firm “dos”. I hope not, but that’s not my decision.

    • Nerd says:

      Harry was answering the “Full time” question that was asked of him. He gave an emphatic NO that he wouldn’t return. He can’t control how the question was asked, but he can control his response, and his response was a resounding NO. He also emphasized that he doesn’t want the institution, he would want his father and brother back, but not the institution. Charles and William are nothing without the institution or the invisible contract with the Royal Rota, so neither of them would give the institution or the invisible contract with the Royal Rota up. Harry is not going back, regardless of it being part time of full time.

  14. Snuffles says:

    I think this clip was released In response to the deceptively edited ITV clip and the ensuing misleading headlines in the UK.

  15. Laura D says:

    If Harry was (and it’s a very big if) thinking of coming back to help out then that was blown completely out of the water with the Clarkson article. It took the outrage and complaints from people like us to get something done. At the time of writing there is still no condemnation from the BRF. Not a word. This is the King’s DIL and he hasn’t uttered a word.

    #SilenceIsBetrayal.

  16. Emily says:

    He may want his brother and father back, but not the backstabbing “co-workers.” And since his family can’t separate the firm and what it means to actually be family, Harry will never have them back.

    • Jaded says:

      His brother and father are the back-stabbers, they merely toss some read meat to the rota ratz and let them do their dirty work on their behalf. Harry’s going to reveal some very ugly truths.

  17. Kingston says:

    The queen is DEAD, FFS!
    There’s no more “for-queen-and-country” obligation for H to consider. You should wonder more about whether H is considering US citizenship!

    I marvel at the extent of brainwashing some folks put themselves thru to justify takers who suck the givers dry and still expect the givers to genuflect to the takers.

    People like this hv very low self-esteem. Which reminds me: the world is filled wth people wth low or no self-esteem.

    • Snuffles says:

      I don’t think Harry would ever renounce his UK citizenship, but I could see him pursuing dual citizenship. But even that would make The Firm and the UK press’s heads explode.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Snuffles, I agree, and he will be here for three years in March. He would only need to wait another two years to apply for dual citizenship. I keep remembering that he said CA is “our home” and at another time he said “home sweet home”. I think that was deliberate.

  18. ChillinginDC says:

    I don’t see them doing it because of the kids honestly. Harry knows what is coming. Their kids would be used to deflect any criticism of William and Kate’s kids. Or William. Or Kate. I do really think the Queen and Charles realize how badly they handled all of this mess after Meghan won her DM lawsuit and the Caribbean Flop Tour. Even the RR had to say, Harry would have been better at this. And he would have. This is after the star power of Invictus and everyone saw it real time. They couldn’t deny it. They did that as Harry and Meghan and kicked ass at it. They did this with no money from the RF and no protection either. Harry didn’t fall on his face.

  19. aquarius64 says:

    I think the real story comes from the 60 Minutes interview, not the ITV propaganda clip.

  20. Sean says:

    I have trouble wrapping my head around separating family from the institution when your own brother and father consistently made the decision to throw you, their brother/son under the bus for their benefit. Then they leaked stories to the press to bully your wife to the point she considered suicide.

    How do you come back from that? It’s all so effed up beyond belief.

    I know it’s been said that these people are torn between their “duty” to the crown and family relations and duty will always win out. How these people go about upholding their “duty” actually speaks volumes about their personal character.

    Even if Charles and William moved heaven and earth to make amends, how do you never side eye them again?

    Maybe Harry knows there’s no chance of reconciliation and is just being wistful for what he feels could have been.

    • one of the marys says:

      William has no personal integrity, he doesn’t prioritize his role or duty. He backs the institution because it provides cover for his lazy philandering life. Harry may be civil but he’ll never trust William again.

    • Nerd says:

      Sean I think that that was cut off at that point to make it seem as if Harry might consider returning. I think he was continuing his thought of how he would like to have them back in the way he saw them previously BUT he has since seen who they really are now and he has come to terms with that. Even in the Netflix documentary he expressed finality when he said that he would like apologizes and them taking responsibility for the roles they played in all of this, but he knows that it is unlikely to happen and they are okay moving forward.

  21. Brassy Rebel says:

    When Harry says he wants his father and brother back, he is making a distinction between his family and the institution. He prioritizes family while his father and brother prioritize the institution. That is the divide between them which cannot be bridged. His values and their values are fundamentally at odds and always will be because his father is king and his brother is fk. That’s all they really care about, not anyone else or anyone else’s needs. Harry just exists to serve them, as far as they’re concerned. That is understandably hard for Harry to accept, but he’s slowly getting there.

  22. Jenna says:

    Is there anyway for someone in the US to watch the ITV interview?

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Jenna, I was wondering the same thing. I suspect by using a VPN it can be done, but I don’t know if you could just search iTV to find the interview. I hope someone can tell us.

  23. Layla Beans says:

    I find what the Royal Family considers “work” to be utterly hilarious. Ribbon cuttings, luncheons and tea parties are not work. Not even close.

    Attending a lunch where you did none of the work to plan it is not work. Walking around greeting people is not work. A 10 min zoom call where you ask inane questions is not work. Plopping on a crown of stolen jewels to attend a gaudy dinner is not work.

    • SadieMae says:

      I think that royalty done right is indeed work. Doing it right (to me, anyway) would entail plenty of events, speeches, etc., so you could turn a spotlight on charities, advocacy organizations, etc., but also plenty of preparation for these events so that you actually understand them and also ongoing follow-up to see if there’s anything else you can do to help. Unfortunately it seems that W&K aren’t particularly prepared for their events (if at all – William is said to simply refuse to be briefed) and just breeze in and out with no prep or follow-up (that we know of, anyway). Basically it’s “All of you people got to be in the Royal Presence, what more could you possibly want?” William’s comment that all they could do was bring smiles was, I thought, very telling. There’s a LOT more they could do (including, let’s see, selling some of their many assets and donating that money to the needy?). They just don’t want to do it.

      I think one of the reasons H&M tried so hard to stay in royal life was that they both saw that the job COULD be very helpful, very meaningful – if done right. Unfortunately when they actually made that effort (particularly Meghan) and put in real work and real heart, they were derided for it; remember the “bullying” accusations against Meghan that seemed to boil down to “she actually wants her staff to work, and they don’t wanna”? Sigh…

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        SadieMae, I wish they would do something to bring attention to the charities. In order to do so, they would have to put in the work. I just can’t stop but think they should be explaining what the charity does and how they do it. What are the things that they need, e.g., volunteers, items (food), or money. How to donate. As you say, they should be following up and making sure these charities are kept front and center. I’ve long since given up any idea I have that this will actually happen.

        The question is: What is their foundation for? Aren’t they supposed to be doing whatever royals do (legally, please) to get donations so that they can give to different charities? Why don’t we ever hear that they’ve done that?

        It takes a certain type of lazy to do what Fails & Wails does.

  24. Rapunzel says:

    Nasty headlines in the Fail yesterday:

    “‘This is NOT the way to get your father and brother back’: Harry and Meghan need to learn ‘silence is common sense’ after Prince claims he wants reconciliation during publicity blitz for new book, say Royal experts”

    “JAN MOIR: Watch out Windsors, a bitter Prince Harry is out on manoeuvres and heating up his tureen of spleen again ahead of his bombshell ‘Spare’ memoir”

    “MAUREEN CALLAHAN: Prince Harry is a spoiled megalomaniac marinating in spite reduced to selling royal secrets to the highest bidder. So, as he bleats about family reconciliation – why the hell would they?”

    With headlines like this permitted, why would Harry want to work full time with the brf/rr again?

    • Emily_C says:

      The British media’s overwrought writing style is repellent. It’s so purple, and in the service of cruelty. Blech.

      • SadieMae says:

        It really is quite an example of purple prose!

        In other news, I think I’m going to start a punk band now just so I can name it “Tureen of Spleen.” 🙂

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Two thumbs up at the punk band name, SadieMae. Their opening act should be the Purple Proses.

    • Div says:

      Yeah, I’m just going to say it: Harry holds some fault here. Harry himself keeps implying he still wants a connection with the BRF. I just don’t get the point in it. He needs to explicitly call them out and not keep making vague comments & showing sympathy.

      Charles and Camilla abused Diana. Will through Meghan under the bus. But he won’t explicitly call them out, he says stuff like he wants them back, etc. I get it. It’s hard to completely detach one self from problematic family. But he can’t be that naive, he can’t think they’re going to publicly apologize, and frankly if I was Meghan I would be PISSED that he was still tip toeing around Chuck & Baldy.

      • C says:

        Or you could wait till the interview comes out and hear what he actually has to say.

        The idea that Harry, who is the one who took Meghan and Archie out of there, somehow is acting badly in focusing on telling his story makes no sense. He can say whatever he wants to. He IS calling out what they did with Diana- through the Home Office suit, and his other legal avenues. They have no problem issuing statements like with the Sun’s fake apology. But he can have human feelings too.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Div, you appear to be falling into the trap that the bm have created. I believe once you see the interview and hear the rest of what Harry is saying, you’ll discover that he has no false hope that this can happen.

      • Jaded says:

        How could Harry hold some of the fault? His wife was suicidal. Death threats were being made constantly at her, Archie and Harry for having the audacity to marry a biracial American. Their security was being pulled. The tsunami of hatred, leaking, planting stories and fanning the flames of hatred was coming from the top, that means his father and brother, in cahoots with the gutter press, were responsible. Then there’s the Middletons unleashing Uncle Hookers-n-Blow on the media and all sorts of embiggening articles on that vapid mean-girl Kate who certainly got her licks in bashing the Sussexes. Terrible Tom Markle and Scamantha were the icing on the cake grifting money from the tabloids. It was a sick, sick situation and one that could only be solved by completely cutting ties.

      • Solidgold says:

        Diana introduced normality to Will and Harry, but they are not regular kids. They are cogs in a system. If Will ever got out of line, the system would discipline him with quickness or kick him out and bring the new cog forward.
        Growing up Harry had more leeway and his experiences in the army and life in southern Africa brought out other sides of him. Now he as his own family and that has brought out another side of him…protector.
        He has the role of royal, friend, military and now husband and father. I think he is a very conflicted man. I cannot wait to read his book. I don’t think he is at fault, I think he is trying to rationalize all his different roles. He was brought up be support for his brother, but the brother he loves and is supposed support has weaponized the media to assault and abuse the wife he loves and put his children in harms way. That is fucked up.
        His father, brother and tabloids will never concede. He is the one that has to neutralize the situation when he is not at fault.

        Charles and Will are bewildered as to why Harry is “lobbing bombs” at them, all while they wine and dine tabloid writers, knight PR spin doctors and pull security leaving his family open to violent attacks.

      • Nerd says:

        DIV I think that you are attacking Harry with information the British media once again edits to fit their narrative. It is clear in the clip that Harry hadn’t said his full thought in the clip and they only shared a small snippet of what he had to say. He also emphasized how he didn’t want the institution in that comment. His father and brother would never separate themselves from the institution, which he said in the Oprah interview when he said they are trapped. I think it’s important to see the full interview before assuming how he fully feels about his relationships with them.

      • Truthbetold says:

        You don’t know that…his comments a a clip of a text. We don’t know what the context is or what the question preceding it was. Let’s wait for the actual interviews as well as Spare to come out before making such assumptions as Harry holds fault for possibly wanting a relationship with his father and brother. It’s the manner in which that relationship could be salvaged is what I am waiting to hear.

      • Emily_C says:

        Harry does not hold some of the fault. What nonsense. He’s a victim of abuse, to say he’s somehow at fault because of how he’s reacting is gross.

    • Tessa says:

      So in other words these writers just want the sussexes to continue getting abuse and not complain.

  25. aquarius64 says:

    I think Harry may apply for dual citizenship. The pictures of Harry and Meghan standing in front of an American flag could be a clue. Also, Meghan’s niece, Ashleigh Hale, is an immigration attorney.

  26. Solidgold says:

    After the book and interviews, Harry should put up some boundaries and move on. I wonder if his therapist have advised that he cannot change people who do not want to be changed. The institution is not making any changes for the fifth in line to the throne. His brother is completely on the side of the tabloids, his father has always used him for press and that will never stop. They have no concern for his safety which is a massive red flag. His family will never care for his wife and kids. Will could not even acknowledge that he would be an uncle to Harry’s kids. He should not under any circumstances bring his kids around people that are openly hostile to them. He can no longer join in on large family gatherings because his family HATE his wife and children. I truly hope he moves on from the Windsors. He seems to have a good support network in California and nice life. I would treasure that over the vile narcissistic Windsor clan. These people will eventually turn on each other.

  27. Kingston says:

    @Div says:

    “….But he can’t be that naive.”
    Funny. I was thinking the same about the author of this post. Either naive or hopelessly brainwashed by the britshidtrags.

    Let me see if I can put it in terms that you would grasp immediately.: Lets say you had a boyfriend….lets call him Johnny; and things were great in the first 6 months. So great that you both started talking in terms of forever. You luuuuuuurve him. Would do anything for him. He’s your world…..your night and day.

    And then one day youre home, he’s off somewhere else; and a woman and 2 kids come knocking at your door saying he’s their father and husband.

    So after all that shock disbelief hurt anger and pain (lets say this is 3 days later) because he finally confessed that you were really just a booty call, wouldnt you, in your subsequent loneliness hurt anger and pain, sometimes call out to the universe that you want your sweet, ‘forever’ Johnny back?

    But you know within your heart that he didnt exist, right? And you know he aint coming back, right? That there will be no forever for you and him because he never existed. Or, to bring it closer to Harry and Bulliam, if he indeed existed back then, he certainly doesnt now.

    Get it now?

    Yeah……so Harry is thinking of the older brother he grew up with when they were both just adolescents and after they shared a horrific experience in the most vulnerable period of their growth. No one else on earth shares what those 2 shared. Harry loved THAT brother.

    THATS the brother he wants back. BUT, as you also saw in the H&M docu, H said, in effect, Bulliam is now inside the matrix…..swallowed up by the royal institution…….and a toady for the britshidtrags. The W he knew no longer exists. Harry knows that.

    So when he said” “I would like to have my brother back”……………..(and those were his exact words, BTW; not the twisted version of the britshidtrags that: “I want my brother back’)…………….that was just a rhetorical statement……a wish that he knows will never come true.

    But no worries……..the context will be revealed when the interview is played in its entirety.

    • Div says:

      @Kingston.

      I’m Black. I would be very upset if my yt partner’s racist family harassed me non stop and then my partner kept expressing sympathy (even if they were critical) while saying they want them back, etc. Harry was a victim of abuse, but that is not an excuse to keep EXCUSING his family’s racism (he did it with Phil too, lbh).

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Div, is he expressing sympathy for them? I think he’s saying that he’d like his family back, but that’s not going to happen. In the Nextflix docuseries he said that there would be no accountability from them. I believe that means he’s moving on, because without accountability how are they able to even begin to evaluate their beliefs (like racism)? No, I don’t think there’s sympathy. In fact, I would say there hasn’t been sympathy from before they left the UK. I think there’s another component, too, and that’s the Country he grew up in and the friends he has that he doesn’t get to see or see very often. There’s a lot going on in all of that.

      • Emily_C says:

        @Div: What on earth? No, he hasn’t excused his family’s racism. Nor does he keep saying he wants them back. I don’t know where you’re getting your ideas from, but they are false.

  28. QuiteContrary says:

    Harry knows what he wants. He wants his wife and kids to be safe and happy. He’ll move heaven and earth to ensure their safety — and has already. He’s not going back to the royal hellscape.

  29. CelticPixie says:

    The RF are threatened by Meghan. Always have been. ESPECIALLY Princess Shrew. She never speaks, because she has to stop the marble in her head from rolling around long enough to maybe form a sentence or word. She stalked William for over 10 yrs, complete with the nickname of Mattress Anywhere. Meghan is beautiful, intelligent, articulate, and truly cares about other people. She got down and dirty in Botswana for 5 days with no bathrooms or amennities. Princess Shrew wouldn’t ever do that.
    Harry loves Meghan. The Shrew had to actually ask William on their wedding day if he was happy and he didn’t answer.

    Hope the title of PoW keeps her warm at night. Because Rose keeps William warm at night.

    • Interested Gawker says:

      “She never speaks, because she has to stop the marble in her head from rolling around long enough to maybe form a sentence or word.”

      😂😂😂

  30. HarryforLife says:

    It’s funny, I just read an article in the Independent asking essentially: “what do the Sussexes want?” And implying they want to eat their cake and eat it too. Honestly, I think it’s a case of not listening. They’ve been very CLEAR. Happy to serve, happy to be beacons of social change and use their status to better humankind BUT not at the expense of their sanity, safety or denigration of their family and reputation. I love that he was clear with the NOPE and if a caveat comes it’s because FULL time comes with being a puppet to the BM. For everyone who can only focus on his “speaking out in public”, with constant nonstop media abuse, what’s the alternative? Go sit by and let themselves be trashed? When the media interest/bashing stops, and they get an apology/accountability maybe they will stop being so “public”. Til then, to quote their reps, “I wouldn’t hold my breath”

    • Emily_C says:

      The Sussexes want to stop being abused. This is a request abusers always pretend they can’t understand.

  31. SourcesclosetoKate says:

    ‘ I’d like to get my father back, I’d like to get my brother baxk’ (but I don’t think its at the top of my list of importance right now, or in this life.) Right now protecting his family is his top priority, and always will be, royal lovers get over it. Harry is living honestly, he doesn’t care and he won’t fake it. There is nothing to left to save in regards to those people and he’s come to peace with that and it’s time we did too.