In recent weeks, the House committee investigating Donald Trump’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein have released reams of documents, especially older documents from the early ‘00s. Some of those documents are emails, which is how we now know that Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson were in close contact with Epstein even after he got out of prison. But did you also know that Epstein loaned his private plane to Andrew in 2006, two months after Epstein was arrested?
Prince Andrew used Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet to fly to Scotland two months after the paedophile financier was arrested for having sex with under-age girls, new flight logs have revealed. Flight records released in the US show that the prince flew into Edinburgh airport with Ghislaine Maxwell and two other passengers for a private wedding in September 2006.
Epstein was arrested in July 2006 on a count of soliciting prostitution from a minor after a family reported that their 14-year-old daughter had been molested at his mansion.
In total, records showed Andrew used Epstein’s private jets on four occasions – including in May 2000 with Epstein, Maxwell, the celebrity chef Adam Perry Lang, a bodyguard and three others.
Two flights in 1999 also had Prince Andrew as a named passenger.The flight logs were revealed after the US House oversight committee published hundreds more documents from Epstein’s estate on Friday, hours after Andrew announced that he would stop using his titles and honours.
These are just the flight records that the House has access to right now, and these are only the flight records where they bothered recording Andrew as a passenger. I do not believe that Andrew only flew on Epstein’s plane – colloquially called Lolita Express – just four times over the course of their decades-long friendship. Speaking of, the politics around Andrew’s titles is getting heated.
Sir Keir Starmer is facing calls from MPs to legislate to strip Prince Andrew of his dukedom, amid claims that there would be “significant” support for the move. Labour backbenchers are among those who want the government to intervene to ensure proper “justice”, despite Andrew having vowed to stop using his title. Downing Street on Monday distanced itself from the row, insisting that the future of Andrew’s titles was “a matter for the Palace”.
However, Starmer is facing mounting pressure from Labour MPs to pass an act of parliament, which is the only way to formally strip a royal of their title. The government would probably have to back the bill for it to stand a chance of passing.
Graham Stringer, a veteran Labour backbencher, said there should be a debate in the Commons followed by an act of parliament to formally strip Andrew of his titles. He told The Times: “I would be surprised if there weren’t a significant number of MPs who would want parliament to intervene. The government will not want to, but might bow to pressure.”
Rachael Maskell, an MP who had the Labour whip removed in July for rebelling against the government, is spearheading a campaign to bring forward legislation to strip Andrew of his title. She is discussing the plans with parliamentary officials, given limited routes available to backbenchers to force legislation through both Houses, and believes legislation is required so that “justice could be served”. Other MPs, including Stephen Flynn, the SNP leader in Westminster, suggested there would be cross-party support for an act of parliament.
He told the Telegraph: “The family of Virginia Giuffre, whose life was destroyed, are angry and aghast, the public across these isles are angry and aghast, and they both deserve to know that some MPs share their outrage. So I won’t sit silent — if an act of parliament is required to strip the likes of Peter Mandelson and Prince Andrew of their titles, then there can be no justification from this Labour government as to why that is not immediately happening.”
Andrew was also urged to be more open about his friendship with Epstein. Sarah Owen, a Labour MP and chair of the women and equalities select committee, told The Times: “Many people will be less concerned about royal titles and rightly more concerned about the horrific things Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has been accused of. While there’s traditionally been a lot of affection for other members of the royal family, that good faith can’t be taken for granted in Andrew’s case. Whether it’s his reported close ties with alleged Chinese spies or friendship with Epstein, the British public deserve total transparency in order to judge for themselves if Andrew is fit to retain the title ‘Prince’ and all the privilege that goes along with it.”
Downing Street declined to get involved in the row. The prime minister’s spokesman said: “It’s a matter for the royal family. Prince Andrew has confirmed he won’t use his titles, and we support the judgment made by the King.”
The spokesman denied that ministers were scared of the reaction from the royal family, saying: “The government isn’t scared of anyone or anything.”
Maybe I have the wrong read on Starmer and the politics of this situation, but I don’t think Starmer is actually inclined to protect Andrew or cover-up Andrew’s misdeeds. I think Starmer just doesn’t want this to blow up and hijack the other sh-t that’s happening in the country. I also get the sense that most serious politicians (on all sides) see the royals as overrated and unimportant in the larger sense, so it’s easy for them to shrug off this York fiasco as a sideshow. That’s a mistake, btw. It’s a huge deal, and it touches on so many larger issues: political corruption, sexual abuse, abuse of power, and how men protect other men and predators protect their fellow predators. The Starmer government should take this more seriously.
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YES. DO IT. Quick win, Sir Kier. And that way people will stop asking how a former chief public prosecutor whiffed on the Savile case, which was allowed to seep through the cracks and never saw so much as an indictment despite thousands of people having been either victims, enablers, or witnesses. Over decades. Do the right thing. For once.
Its long overdue…
Was Savile ever charged with sexual abuse, not a lot the cps can do if no evidence is presented by the police. With Andrew there seems to be plenty of evidence.
This may be a controversial opinion but I think all this to do with titles should be removed from Parliaments control anyway. Let the monarchy sort out who has and doesn’t have whatever title. Why one earth should parliament have to waste their time with something so meaningless?
Yes. I remarked on this before. It seems bizarre to me that what only the monarch can confer and has jurisdiction over, the monarch can’t remove.
They keep saying its an act of parliament and so what? If it can be done then whats the big deal?
Time! More important things to do. Lock him up instead.
Idk if I’m in the minority or what but removing Andrew’s titles is not justice being served. Starmer should be having Andrew investigated for any number of things. Why hasn’t he been? Why aren’t they now? I realize they closed the “investigation” on him before but surely they can reopen it with all this new info coming to light. Let him be investigated and convicted of something while still holding his titles to show that anyone, title our not, is held accountable to the law. But they can’t. Bc it would probably show how much Scotland Yard and the government have been part of protecting Andrew and the RF for years. To me, taking his titles is superficial window-dressing.
Agreed.
I agree as well.
You’re certainly not in the minority on the site anyway
Sorry just to add. It really makes me kind of mad. All this focus on Parliament needs to strip Andrew of his titles. Like oooh, big deal. I say don’t. Just hold him to account with the law. Don’t give him money. Investigate how he even has money to upkeep RL and pay for security. Investigate how he used tax dollars to investigate and harass Virginia on SM. Bots ain’t free. But apparently they can’t do that so this whole theater of will they or won’t they strip the titles is such a facade of consequences.
This is why Keir Stamer and the Government are trying to treat the issue as a problem for the royal family to handle
True, but could Starmer not pressure the Met to investigate Andrew further?
Starmer is under no pressure. The people calling actions are backbenchers. For those who don’t know a backbencher is a member of the party that has no role or power. They just make up the numbers for the party in the House. Starmer has a tendency of ignoring what his backbenchers say. He’s going to maintain the status quo and is not going to do anything unless Charles asks him to strip Andrew.
Even it were just a side show in Britain, it’s very real stateside. The most powerful people are involved. This is not a small thing to start as serving up consequences.
Agree completely with the posters above. Who cares about the titles and honorifics?
Guessing that Charles—and William—are pushing hard against parliamentary action. A parliamentary debate and investigation would shed light on how they’ve been enabling and shielding Andrew for decades. Charles and William probably thought they could avoid parliamentary debate by getting Andrew to agree not to use his titles.
If they do this to Andrew I think we know which couple is next based on lies and racism.
Precedents can be dangerous for the wrong reasons.
But personally, I think this is all just noise, nonsense and clickbait for the UK rags.
Flamingo, I agree. I think Parliament is less likely to go after the Montecitans than for Andrew for titles, but there’s probably enough Tories etc to make it look possible once raging scooter king demands it.
for those in the US something to note: the speaker of the house is keeping the house out of session intentionally, not just because of the shutdown, but to keep a newly elected member from being sworn in m(Ms Grijalve) because she has said that her first action will be to cast the deciding vote for full release of the Epstein files. Johnson is doing this at Trump’s behest almost certainly.
Use Parliamentary time to get rid of Andrews’s and make it easier to get rid of Harry’s although I expect most MPs will recognise the difference between having sex with under age girls and calling out racism and sticking up for your wife.
I can’t see this getting traction to make it through Parliament. What I believe is that this is a GLOBAL sex trafficking ring, and there are extremely rich people everywhere who do NOT want the Epstein info out there at all. I hope all of the financial info comes out–let’s get rid of this whole cabal of the rich. I want that to happen for their involvement in the sex trafficking and the blackmail aspect. The world will be a better place once that all comes tumbling down.