Bachelor Jake blames Vienna for not sleeping with her, she bawls & walks out of interview


Last night was the big showdown interview between recently split-up tabloid couple, bachelor Jake Pavelka and his would-be bride, Vienna Girardi. I have to admit that I didn’t watch the whole thing and just saw the highlights. (Which are available on Radar, TMZ, and Popeater. Popeater’s video is above.) Jake comes across as very mean, controlling and arrogant and snipes at Vienna to stop interrupting him several times. He claims she “undermines” him and says that’s why he didn’t sleep with her while they were together. She points out that he gave her other excuses, including that he was fasting and that he wanted to wait until marriage.

I’m only marginally interested in these two, but from what I saw of this interview it was explosive and frankly somewhat scary. Jake looked unhinged and very angry like he was about to go off at any time. The only example he could give of Vienna “undermining” him was when she wanted to use the GPS when he insisted he knew how to get somewhere. He was so pissed off that she questioned him that he threw the GPS out the car window.

They seemed to hurl insults most of the time, with each claiming they were the first one to break up the relationship. Vienna ended up walking out in tears when Jake told her to stop interrupting him. Radar Online is reporting that she wants a quarter of a million dollars to have another televised interview with Jake but that ABC isn’t paying.

Here’s Radar’s recap of the Jake vs. Vienna televised fight, which is the most complete I’ve found:

The Bachelor’ host Chris Harrison moderated the pool-side debate between the couple, who called off their engagement last month. The 32-year-old pilot from Dallas and the 23-year-old Geneva, Fla., resident quarreled over such issues as where they should place furniture in their home and why she gave an interview to a tabloid about their split. Amid the fireworks, Vienna accused Jake of emotional abuse, while he said “she breaks me down … she’s mean.”

The two met on a reality TV show, where Jake chose his favorite girl Vienna from a pack of willing women. While the couple admit they were happy at first, things quickly went downhill. “The first month together was great. He was crazy about me. From there it went straight downhill. It felt like a relationship when cameras were rolling or we were out on a red carpet, but when we were at home [it was] lonely,” Girardi explained.

He fired back, “To me there is more in a relationship than sex.” When she interrupted him again, he added, “She’s asking me why there’s not intimacy in a relationship and this is it right here.”

But she says while the couple tried to act happy for the cameras, they weren’t intimate at home. “At home, it wasn’t like we were in a relationship. I just wanted him to be around me and talk to me and hold me and kiss me, like a normal relationship,” she explained.

Then came the tabloid interviews from both sides. Girardi lashed out first by appearing on the cover of Star magazine alongside the headline “Jake’s a MONSTER!” Pavelka then struck back on the front of PEOPLE magazine above the headline “I DON’T TRUST HER.” Girardi later dodged infidelity allegations on Twitter, while Pavelka unloaded about his relationship regrets in an interview with ‘Extra’ host Mario Lopez.

“Either way, our relationship had been public. The world was going to want to know what happened … I hadn’t had a voice this entire time,” she said. “You are a fame whore is what you are.”

“I’m so mad at you. I’m disgusted with you,” Pavelka fired back.

But who actually initiated the breakup remains unknown. “I called you and broke up with you over the phone,” Girardi said. Disgusted at his ex, Pavelka said, “She’s like a tabloid. You get 40 percent of the truth.” He later added, “She breaks me down, she undermines me, she’s mean … This is it, right here.”

Throughout the interview, Pavelka continually got annoyed at his ex for “interrupting” him. He kept trying to silence her and finished by yelling at his ex. At this point, Vienna couldn’t take it anymore and began crying. She finally jumped off the couch, saying to Jake, “You are the meanest person I’ve ever met in my life. … I’m over it.”

[From Radar]

I didn’t watch this show and I only know this couple from the tabloids and what little I’ve seen of this interview. There’s something wrong with this Jake guy, though. He’s a creep with no idea how to compromise in a relationship and is far from a catch. He’s looking for a woman to dominate and control – if he’s even interested in women.

Why the hell don’t producers vet these people properly? Can’t they give them psychological testing to see if they’re emotionally ready to be a relationship? There’s nothing romantic or dreamy about these dating shows and it’s time that major networks gave them a pass. Sadly, the more over-the-top drama there is the more we watch. Now we know that it’s not all manufactured for ratings. There’s no doubt these fools weren’t acting.

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  1. sarah says:

    &*@!. I forgot it was on.

  2. Me1st says:

    they are both fame whores!!!

  3. gabs says:

    oh wow. They are both losers but that guy is worse than she is. Team Vienna on this one

  4. bizzy says:

    Why the hell don’t producers vet these people properly?

    um, i suspect that if you screen those willing to appear on a spouse-picking reality show for their emotional and psychological maturity, you’re going to end up with 0 participants. who thinks adding tv-cameras is actually going to enhance your chances of making a genuine, soul-deep connection with another human being? i mean, who *in their right mind*?

  5. Eileen Yover says:

    I agree with Me1st. He was a disrespectful ass and she couldn’t shut up long enough for him to get a sentence out.

  6. scotchy says:

    that is just scary. and sad.
    and scary, my god this man is scary.

  7. guesty says:

    he’s a complete nut job…that’s for sure.

    & maybe abc does vet the contestants & this is why they choose the crazy.

  8. denise says:

    That pic of her crying makes me feel kinda bad for her.

  9. Marjalane says:

    Oh this was AWESOME! It was like a 6000 calorie meal from Taco Bell- nasty, soul crushing, and guilt inducing, but totally captivating! I didn’t even watch these two when they were on the Bachelor, but after catching his smarmy act on DWTS, I wasn’t about to miss this carnage. First thought? Look up “smug douchbag” in the dictionary and there’s his face- dude’s such a creep! I don’t know if he’s gay, (yeah, probably is) but what an obvious dirtbag. I’m thinking he had this whole thing planned out and after he’d wrung all the attention he could out of his beard, he dumped her to try and attain even MORE publicity! I’m not saying his cross-eyed girlfriend was any prize, (she MAY have been a man at some point…) but just from what I’ve seen of their “relationship” in the last six months, it’s pretty clear he was playing her big time, and I think she must have known it, and it pissed her off when he tried to trade her in.

    Also- That TOOL Chris Hanson from the show was such a jackass last night! It was obvious he was team Jake and he just kept digging his smarmy knife into “the relationship”. I bet you anything they give creepy Jake another idiotic dating show- but hopefully a gay one this time- I sincerely hope something hideous surfaces about this guy. Blech.

    And yes, I am ashamed for having such an opinion in this. Not to mention it cut into the last 15 minutes of Intervention.

  10. CB Rawks says:

    It gives me the shudders, because when he was on the Bachelorette, I actually liked him and wanted Jillian to like him too. Now I want to go hide under my bed!

  11. Oi says:

    He’s a creep and she’s a flake. Its hard to feel sorry for either of them. They’re making lots of money off of this in the end.

  12. Iggles says:

    I don’t like him.

    He fired back, “To me there is more in a relationship than sex.”

    He’s gay. That doesn’t ring true for a straight man to say! Maybe if they were having issues they would have sex less, but I don’t see a straight guy shunning all sex with his girlfriend. Not happening!

  13. jc126 says:

    It was downright unsettling, how he came across. I didn’t watch the original show, so can’t compare his demeanor to how he was on that, but he was indeed kind of scary.
    She is apparently a huge pain in the ass, but he seemed like he was going to snap.
    Creepy.

  14. andrea says:

    agree with bizzy. anybody who is sane isnt going to go on one of these idiotic shows in the first place. i havent seen this show, just skimmed the interview – what a jerk. she’s probably dumb as a rock as well.

    also thinking this guy is a closet case – what guy is not interested in sex at the start of a relationship???

    saw RHONJ last nite which i dont usually watch – pure trash – have decided to boycott all reality shows except for project runway/top chef – the ones that are not purely based on watching twisted people live their twisted lives – tv needs to do better

  15. Patrice says:

    You know what? (I can’t believe I’m about to say this) but I actually TOTALLY SIDED WITH VIENNA on this one!! I believe every word she said about that scumbag (if ANY of this is true) , and his just sitting there with that smug, self righteous look on his face the entire time (even hen she was in tears) completely said it all. What an a**hole.
    Good for Vienna for holding her own and finally giving some truth to these comletely manufactured “Bachelor/Bachelorette” relationships. I imagine that interview wasn’t easy for her especially considering the fact that Chris Hanson has a franchise to protect and made it very clesr by conducting the interview in a ridiculously biased way in Jake’s favor. Sure the guy couldn’t get a word in edgewise, but look what SHE’S been putting up with for the past few months! What a shame for her…she’s much better off without him.

  16. Patrice says:

    Oh, and you know what the best part was??? When Jake called Vienna fameseeking and she totally called HIS ASS OUT and basically said “I thought you were a “pilot” I assumed we would be living a normal life in Texas…what happened to THAT plan Jake???” His uncomfortable reponse “I flew a plane last week” Ummmmm ok. I’m surrrre he’s still on the commercial flying circuit. Go Vienna!!

  17. Feebee says:

    I’ve only seen small snippets of the i/v but the cold demeanour coming off Jake was an astonishing turn around from any other time I’ve seen him. Of course his pissy bitchy side came out when he disagreed with his pro on DWTS, he was domineering, arrogant, condesending and plain out of line. It’s not a huge leap to see that how he may have behaved with Vienna off camera was as she is claiming. I have no time for her either but if I had to make a call I’d be siding with her.

  18. Kimberly says:

    Damn I missed it , will they re-air this ?

  19. Katie says:

    They are both disgusting. However, i remember her as being a bitch on the show and when things blew up in her face, she took to the victim role. Obviously, there is something wrong with him, but she is equally to blame. What truly devastated and heartbroken person would be willing to put themselves through another interview for some cash. She is a famewhore too, it’s just that her “star” was not shining as brightly and she wasn’t being offered the same type of crap jake was. I think she’s an immature, jealous and conniving woman and he’s an angry freak.

  20. ! says:

    @Iggles

    What a bigoted thing to say. I know many gay men in happy relationships.

  21. InVain says:

    Like others I never actually watched them on the Bachelor, but I did watch DWTS. I always got the impression that she was a money-grubbing whore…which very well may still be the case…
    I tuned in last night just to witness this train wreck. And OMG…like many of you, I really felt sorry for Vienna toward the end. Jake came off as a completely arrogant @ssho!e, with his smug grin and his “better than thou” attitude. At one point Vienna was talking about how Jake treated her like a child…well, he certainly did last night. I felt like he was scolding his daughter or something. Sure, she interrupted him, but she had difficulty controlling her emotions and sometimes that’s how it comes out. When he screamed at her and slapped his knee before she stood up and walked out…I didn’t even know how to react. Makes me believe her claims of emotional abuse. Something’s off about this guy…he seems so twisted. I think they’re both lying about stuff…but he just seems so shady. She’s right, he probably just needs a woman who will sit there, shut up, and look pretty…or he’s an angry closet gay.

  22. Ogechi says:

    Sad and pathetic relationship.

  23. nickynoneck says:

    Man i totally understand where this guy is comming from i hate being interupted and the gps would get on my nerves but i wouldnt have thrown it out the window , the two look like douche bags but seriously i understand why he would get mad at her for interupting him .
    I find people are too quick nowadays to go to the womens side .

  24. Hautie says:

    If you really want to read up on this train wreck, go read:

    http://realitysteve.com/

    (I hope it is okay to link to the site)

    It is amazing the stuff he finds out and post. I am sure ABC would love the run his butt down in a dark parking lot.

    But he has made it clear that Chris Harrison is a spawn of the devil. haha! And was not fan of this idiot Jake.

  25. guesty says:

    you guys it’s chris harrison! LOL! chris hansen is the ‘to catch a predator’ guy.

    team vienna for sure.

  26. Bella Mosley says:

    I thought she was hateful in the original show and she couldn’t get along with any of the girls. She was certainly not a favorite.

    Crying – that was fake and for show. You’d have to be blind to buy that act. It is way out of like to share what she did. Shows she has no class.

    I hope they both disappear. He is one step up and she is one step down from white trash.

  27. ann says:

    Man, that guy just can’t get a word in without this “dim bim” interupting him All The Time! I know that would drive me nuts. Then when he calls her on it, she’s all tears and interupts him again. I’m a woman myself and I hate women that play the “wah, wah” game.
    She’s pathetic and he’s lucky to be rid of her. I almost feel sory for the guy.
    What person needs someone like that??

  28. standards says:

    (!, Iggles was saying a straight man doesn’t shun sex with a women who is his girlfriend and who he is living with. Your comment doesn’t make any sense. What Iggles said does not contest that there are gay men in happy relationships. You sound like the biggot.)

    I didn’t know who to believe before the interview but after I’m totally team Vienna. Wow, Jake sounds like a jerk!

  29. Isa says:

    I don’t really like either of them, but I find it very surprising that people are siding with Vienna.
    I watched this season and how she couldn’t take the blame for anything and was always playing the victim. She’s doing it again and has brought out the ugly side of Jake.
    I know I hate when people interrupt me or talk over me, she was driving me crazy the entire interview. He handled it a lot better than I would have. The entire interview was her side of the story with Jake only being able to get a few words in.
    Of course he didn’t want to be around her.

  30. a says:

    would a balanced and healthy person really want to be on a choose-your-mate show like that?

  31. Terri says:

    I know nothing about these two, but being interrupted is a huge pet peeve of mine and he showed his frustration at being *continually* interrupted. I’d have been frustrated, too. And I didn’t hear that he threw the GPS out the car window…I thought she said he had thrown it into the back of the car (meaning, the back seat).

  32. Liana says:

    He also had a forum where he could state his point alone with douchbag Harrison. Vienna didn’t have that time. It was all so slanted towards Jake it wasn’t funny. My husband was watching with me and he said “imagine how this ‘man’ is when there are no cameras rolling if he’s acting like this with the cameras on.”

  33. InVain says:

    @Liana: DITTO

  34. Lindsay says:

    After the story broke about her clearing out her husband or boyfriend’s savings account (don’t remember which, don’t care enough to look it up; beyond low and b!tchy either way) while he was away severing his countries overseas so she could get a boob job it is amazing that this guy is so horrible that he looks like more of a monster than her. Although they are both sleazy and terrible people.

  35. CIdee says:

    Can’t believe I’m writing this but….TEAM VIENNA all the way. He is diabolical.

  36. Anna says:

    As much as I hate him I can’t feel sorry for her because she’s a fame whore.

  37. Skipper says:

    Gawd that was painful to watch… but at least Vienna came across as being sincere and truthful (albeit a tad flaky), while Jake was smug, pompous, arrogant, insincere, fake, phony and downright GAY. He reminded me of Tom Cruise, esp. in that infamous interview with Matt Lauer. I don’t care for either of them, but Vienna could do a LOT better than that arse – good riddance!!!

  38. Kelaa Khaa says:

    I wonder if Vienna used the same eye drops as Chris Brown? and I would not want to fly with Jake as a pilot.

  39. Laurie says:

    She was free to leave if it was that bad – but she stayed and now cries about it. No car & “stuck” in LA? On the Bachelor her daddy would buy her anything and everything – why not help her out now. Now big surprise she is staying in LA…a place she claims he stuck her in and she hates it?? Whatever Vienna. I’m just barely supporting Jake.

  40. Kim says:

    Team Vienna , Jake is a jerk. I saw the girl he was dating when he signed up for the Bachelor on Inside Edition. She described him perfectly. Her is a fame whore IMO

  41. Jenn says:

    I totally feel like Vienna was telling the truth- Jake is a certified psycho. Is he serious about the whole undermining issue?!? She can’t question his decisions? He sounds like a total wife beating, withholding dickhead. And TOTALLY fake ands full of shit.

  42. mollination says:

    I’m glad you called him out – frankly, I’m sure Vienna is out for cash and I was afraid because she was already cast as the “villain” that people were going to blame her in this whole thing. And I’m sure she is partly culpable, but this guy…..I’m telling you, you can see it in his eyes.

    I actually truly believe that Vienna was flabbergasted at him and those tears were genuine. I think behind closed doors they agreed to do this “showdown” or whatever, and maybe (like pro-wrestling) even decided on some talking points. I think the second a camera turns on Jake turns into a totally different person and Vienna truly was like, “holy crap you are an unbelievable sociopath liar!”

    Now, that being said, I think ABC wants Jake to look like the good guy as part of his deal to launch whatever career he thinks he’s gonna have, and because Vienna is awfully immature she makes it farily easy for him. Her interrupting and so on gives him an easy out to be all, “See, this is what I mean”. Not to mention the host had an easy set-up to make Vienna look like the liar.

    The fact of the matter is, Jake is as phony as they come and he thinks he’s hollywood’s next leading man. She’s got her own problems, but I think he is an absolute psycho.

  43. original kate says:

    famewhoring much?

  44. Badge says:

    I’ll just say I beleive her. But I would be super annoyed too if I kept getting interupted EVERYTIME I tried to say something. I found him to be really creepy(something is wrong with that dude) and her to be annoying, but honest. Smeh, they both suck.

  45. Iggles says:

    Thanks Standards! I concur.

    Team Vienna for sure. Jake is weird.

  46. Liana says:

    Now big surprise she is staying in LA…a place she claims he stuck her in and she hates it?? Whatever Vienna.
    ______________________

    Why should she give up a job to leave LA? In this economy, she is lucky to have gotten a job. She should stay in LA, work her job, save up money, then if she hates it, she can leave. I’m not a big fan of LA, but I recognize that I need to be there for work if I happen to be working on a series or a film that’s based there. I was lucky to take this summer off to spend it in New York.

  47. hmmhmm says:

    My bf and I have been together for almost five years and he always passes my sexual advances. He really is old fashion. He isn’t gay and many of you would disagree but there are some really respectful guys left- we’re in our early 20s and he’s really Catholic. He’s had urges but what it comes down to is self control. If you guys remember Daria- that’s who he’s like… his favorite character Daria. On top of that- he wants to make sure he’s capable of raising a baby and us financially if we were ever in a predicament. Also- he’s never had a drink in his life.

    But yeah- sometimes guys can be wo sex. I know for a fact my brothers are too but thats because we came from a strict catholic upbrining that shames on premartial sex.

    ..my 2 cents

  48. HotPockets says:

    I only watched a few episodes of this season, but this interview was so uncomfortable to watch! I do believe that a lot of reality television is scripted and fabricated for the ratings, not to mention they keep the entire cast completely liquored up the entire time, but Jake does seem like a true asshole. I actually felt bad for Vienna and her strong reactions and remarks to him felt real. There is something seriously wrong with this guy, he seems totally selfish and self righteous….almost like Tom Cruise…

  49. HS says:

    um whoa. That is all.

  50. jane16 says:

    He’s gay & wants to be famous. She’s too young & inexperienced to get the whole bearding relationship. I think she believed they would have a real romantic relationship. He sounds like an impatient jerk.

  51. Joi Sienna says:

    I didn’t watch The Bachelor and I haven’t for years, but this video of him yelling at her made my spine crawl. If that’s the way he’ll talk to her when he’s not only sitting in front of another person, but also BEING FILMED, there’s no doubt in my mind that he would have been verbally and/or physically abusive if the relationship had lasted any longer.
    I also think there’s a good chance that his anger issues are stemming from his self hate as a result of being homosexual. He’s from Texas, and though I don’t like making generalizations, Texas is definitely not a state famed for its acceptance of others. Just the fact that he gave more than one reason for not sleeping with her proves that for me. How many straight men can give a LIST of reasons why they won’t sleep with their GIRLFRIEND? I mean, I understand abstaining, but there’s usually only one reason for that.

  52. Marjalane says:

    Oh please! Grown up couples that live together, but decide not to have sex? Oh excuse me- ONE of them decides they aren’t going to have sex? There’s the slightest possibility he isn’t gay, but it’s a good bet he’s got some serious sexual hang-ups- and what does being Catholic have to do with not having sex for five years?! Can you say RED FLAG??

  53. DH says:

    30 years ago we would have not seen anything like this trash on TV. That was the era of Cronkrite, All in the Family and M*A*S*H. TV has scraped the bottom of the barrel a hundred fold with shows like this.

  54. jane16 says:

    DH, so true!

  55. Yo Mama says:

    gay gay gay gay gay. no one loves gay men like i love gay men (except other gay men maybe, but i digress), but COME ON! jake is so filled with rage and denial and shame and self hatred and all the other fun side affects of being a closeted gay man in his twisted catholic world, it’s not even funny. and what’s the deal with him being a pilot/not being a pilot (p.s. next to the theatre business, which I’m in, the airline business is the gayest in the land folks). Anyhoo, no love lost wiht vienna, but i actually felt a bit sorry for her; he lied the biggest lie of all.

  56. La Lencha says:

    I love how you insinuate that because he is a dick, he must be gay. You people disgust me. The mental gymnastics that straight people are capable of is just scary.

  57. Allie says:

    i new that guy couldn’t be trusted… i never watched the show but come ON ladies: so many women think guys like what he appeared to be are out there: perfect looking, charming, a pilot for Gods sake…just looking for someone to love honestly & unselfishly and treat them like a princess.

    Come on now…most of the ugliest, most un-charming, bums dont even treat women like that. I knew this guy had to be a fake. I’m sorry but so many women have such unrealistic expectations…

    No one is perfect…and if they come across that way watch out because they’re probably worse than most guys when you get to know them.

    A guy who is a famous, handsome pilot knows he can get away with anything, have any girl, and treat her like shit…that does not a good man make.

  58. Joi Sienna says:

    La Lencha: Um, it’s not because he’s an angry, clearly repressed asshole that I think he’s gay. It’s because he WON’T HAVE SEX WITH A WOMAN. You can hang up with the ACLU now, thanks.

    Edit to quote MYSELF:
    “Just the fact that he gave more than one reason for not sleeping with her proves that for me. How many straight men can give a LIST of reasons why they won’t sleep with their GIRLFRIEND? I mean, I understand abstaining, but there’s usually only one reason for that.”

  59. Rosanna says:

    He does sound like he wanted a nice little wifey Laura Bush style. However, she sounds unbearable.

  60. Allie says:

    @JoiSienna:

    “If that’s the way he’ll talk to her when he’s not only sitting in front of another person, but also BEING FILMED, there’s no doubt in my mind that he would have been verbally and/or physically abusive if the relationship had lasted any longer.”

    ^ SO true. could not agree more.

  61. Nugget says:

    This is so incredibly juvenile, who the hell cares? Publicity thats all.

  62. Bopa says:

    I don’t think he’s gay. He’s probably just a sissy douche type of guy. They are real, I’ve met some and I always run for the hills as fast as I can. Big drama queens about everything. Don’t want to be corrected and a bit strange when it comes to sex. They don’t like your hair that day so they’re not having sex kind of insanity.

  63. Madison says:

    Vienna is obviously a whiny bitch, that much is apparent. But Jake is obviously unstable. I know being interrupted would make me upset, but there are unresolved issues here, and I would have called him out too if I felt that he was defaming me. The way this guy reacts to her is unsettling. If he could speak to her like that in front of millions of people, imagine what he must be like in private. He’s got issues, and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if we see this guy’s face on a mugshot sooner or later for domestic violence. Normal people don’t react that way to confrontation. I also question his sincerity and/or sexuality. Either he was never attracted to her in the first place, and the whole relationship was simply about the publicity, or he’s gay. No two ways about it. I have never met a man in my entire life that would refuse to sleep with a woman that they are living with just because her attitude upsets him. Men usually at least attempt to remedy problems with intimacy, not shun a woman that is throwing herself at him. Why didn’t he just leave, or sleep with someone else? Something with this guy is off.

  64. bellaluna says:

    Here’s a scary thought: what if ABC did vet the contestants, and this is the best they could do?

  65. TeeTee says:

    he’s always had stars in his eyes and does not care who he stomps on or uses to get there..

    anyone read the article from his EX, who was still with him while he was on the show–her parents had to MAKE her question him–she claims that he did come back to her AFTER the show and that his lies all caught up with him–she said he is Hollywood bound and no one can stop him.

    He never cared for hr and chose a chick that America wouldn’t mind if he dumped.
    He thinks all of the ladies will side with him–cause she was not favored anyway.

    He’s a jerk and I saw the interview–he wasn’t even cordial for tv…he was gritting his teeth the whole time, he used the right on–cause some women would have bashed him in the head.

  66. Mairead says:

    “she was mean”?

    Ho ho ho – give me 5 minutes with this tedious closet-case and he will know the true definition of mean 😈

  67. Kate says:

    Bahahahahahahahahaha!

    Hilarious!

  68. Bella Mosley says:

    No runs in her make-up. Where are the tears? Unbelievably, embarrassingly, ridiculously stupid. Airing all that in public? No one with an ounce of class or pride would do this. They want fame – Well they got it. They will go down in reality tv history for being a joke

  69. Amy says:

    Very childish duo.

  70. gg says:

    WHY are these two rejects STILL ON TV? Too much personal airing, and why do people watch this? it’s not even interesting.

  71. Angel says:

    Um. She is just immature. He is a man, stubborn as hell to be sure, and is treating her like a child but I can’t honestly say it isn’t entirely undeserved. I wouldn’t call that psycho. I dated a psycho in my past, and trust me, this is just a frustrated, impatient man dealing with a demanding, petulant, and very needy woman. That’s really all that this is.

  72. Third Option here people says:

    Two Words: Impotent & Angry

  73. hmm says:

    at first i was on vienna’s side, but jake couldn’t say 3 works without her interrupting him. i would have gotten frustrated and snapped too. they are both fame whores, but i think vienna is actually worse. most of all though, i just found the whole interview a little creepy and felt dirty afterwards for watching it. way too intimate for television. and you could tell they just hate each other. they should both be embarrassed.

  74. Liana says:

    jake is so filled with rage and denial and shame and self hatred and all the other fun side affects of being a closeted gay man in his twisted catholic world, it’s not even funny.
    ______________

    Jake’s not Catholic. He’s non-denominational Christian, I believe. I could be wrong though.

  75. Monica says:

    Can’t stand her, but she’s harmless. He’s got real issues, and is very mean-spirited – the worst statement from him, in my opinion, was when she said she had a job in marketing, and he looked at her and said “I’m a pilot” with such a pompous attitude. His tone of voice insinuated that made him better than her (and probably anyone else who wasn’t a “pilot”.)

  76. Liana says:

    I’m not a pilot, though I would like to play one on tv…

    like Jake, apparently, these days.

  77. Ashley says:

    I don’t watch these shows and have’t seen this show, but she didn’t seem mean, she seemed… scared isn’t it, but definitely on her toes like at any moment he could snap at her. Kind of like an abused puppy who doesn’t know if it’s owner will lash out.

    He seems like a jerk. He was clearly quick to jump at her probably because he’s trying to hide the fact he doesn’t like women and this chicks blowing it for him.

    The things she wants are normal. I mean if you’re in a relationship that doesn’t involve affection than you’re not in a romantic relationship.

    She should count her blessings that she dodged a bullet.

    Third option – Impotent and angry sounds exactly right. Maybe he’s isn’t gay, but either way he’s not getting it up for women.

  78. katie says:

    who cares about these people? honestly?!

  79. sarah says:

    Wow. I’m from Australia so that is the first time I have been exposed to these people but that man is CLEARLY a narcissist who would consider any kind of difference of opinion (ie, looking on a GPS to get a sense of direction) to be deeply challenging and offensive. While the woman wasnt perfect, it was clear that it was a heated discussion and she was listening and responding to what he was saying. In contrast, he was unwilling to allow her to have a voice. Even his gestures, pushing down at her, showed how he patronised her. It was truly, truly disturbing to watch. What a total creep!

  80. neema says:

    This is so incredibly contrived and fake, I can’t possibly believe anyone would buy it.

  81. CB Rawks says:

    @Bopa
    “He’s probably just a sissy douche type of guy. They are real, I’ve met some and I always run for the hills as fast as I can. Big drama queens about everything. Don’t want to be corrected and a bit strange when it comes to sex. They don’t like your hair that day so they’re not having sex kind of insanity.”

    Oh my god, I’ve met that guy!! EW!! Ew. There are more?

  82. jane says:

    Wow. Makes me hate my ex even more after watching Jake. Fake. He was so different in the Bachelor. I almost admired him on the show for being different and careful on who he was choosing. I should’ve known better when he was throwing each seemingly good/decent girl out the door just like that and then settled down with Vienna. All these people who go on these reality shows are in it for themselves. I don’t think I will ever watch another Bachelor or Bachelorette show again. They just keep getting worse and worse, and more fake each time.

  83. KLaw says:

    Amen, Sarah. You are spot on. I dated this guy (well, his “twin”) for more than 4 years. I didn’t know there was another one on the planet. OMG. Run, woman, run. I can’t even begin to tell you how mentally messed up he is. I recognize each and every sign, from his physical mannerisms to how he masterfully manipulates the conversation to sound like he is innocent and perfectly healthy and she is the one who is messed up. He uses such extreme (yet, baseless if you care to dig for the truth) accusations against her to distract from his insecurity.

    Also, my ex had terrible hang-ups with sex, but he was definitely not gay. He had to inhabit a different personality in order to be intimate, because he was that terrified to be vulnerable.

    These people DO exist, and there is no easy explanation for them (such as just saying they must be gay, that’s why the intimacy issues with a woman).

  84. mjs says:

    I was with a man who was a narcisist and master manipulator. We broke up over 7 years ago. This interview with Jake and Vienna brought back horrible memories of what is was like to be in a relationship with this type of abusive character. They are so overly confident and assume that everyone around them agrees with everything they say. My ex would make me doubt myself constantly, saying “you are wrong” doing exactly what Jake was doing, monotone voice, unemotional, noempathy, impossible to have a civil disagreement without him being “right” and me being wrong. Thank god I got out when I was fairly young and was able to turn my life around. Breaking up with him was the hardest breakup of my life because you seriously doubt yourself when you in an abusive maniulative relationship with a true narcicist. I do not wish that on anyone. MOVE ON VIENNA he’s a schmuck and you will do better. Image Jake picked Tenley??? He would have totally messed her up. thank Gawd she was spared!!! lol

  85. KLaw says:

    mjs – That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Cheers to us both for escaping!

  86. mjs says:

    Yes KLAW, it’s very hard for anyone to understand what it’s like unless they are in it. You seriously think you are going crazy and it brings out the worst in you as well. No matter what you do or say, no matter how nice or willing I was to communicate, he would get worse and worse. When I saw Jake displaying these very slight behaviours on National TV I very quickly realized (wow! that’s my ex!) lol I always knew there was something off with him, he’s very anal, everything he says is perfect and calculated, he’s so calm self righteous and downright creepy. I feel sorry for anyone who is with a man like that.
    To this day, my ex forbids any of his family to associate with me , even though they loved me very much. His family member used o sneak visits for years. My ex was a dick but his family was awesome. When he found out that his father, brother and sister and law and I hung out together, he threatened them by saying that he demand that they cut all ties with me otherwise he will disown them and thay will never see their grandson and or nephew. YES he actually got married to a “submissive” girl who converted to Judaism just to please him. From what I know of her she was very beautiful, very bubbly etc… now, things have changed, I heard it through his family that he cuts her off at the dinner table in front of family and she just sits there and takes it. Only a small example of what his wife goes thru on a daily basis. I wish I could have had a few few words with his wife, I would have protected her from this beast but she is not as strong a personality, she is more submissive and unfortunately, she is probably weak right now, not to mention, she has gained weight from her pregnancy and my ex always used to comment about how he doesn’t like it when women let themselves go after having a baby. He was such an ass and I hope for his wife’s sake that she finds th einner strenght to get the hell out of there :O).

  87. CB Rawks says:

    “They are so overly confident and assume that everyone around them agrees with everything they say. My ex would make me doubt myself constantly, saying “you are wrong” doing exactly what Jake was doing, monotone voice, unemotional, noempathy, impossible to have a civil disagreement without him being “right” and me being wrong. Thank god I got out when I was fairly young and was able to turn my life around. Breaking up with him was the hardest breakup of my life because you seriously doubt yourself when you in an abusive maniulative relationship with a true narcicist.”

    Mjs, I have experienced that exact thing too! High fives to us and KLaw!