Did George Clooney give Elisabetta an engagement ring? (update: no)

George Clooney and girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis arrive on the red carpet before a screening of the film Up in the Air during the 4th Rome International Film Festival in Rome on October 17, 2009. UPI Photo/David Silpa Photo via Newscom

TMZ just put this photo up of Elisabetta Canalis and George Clooney having dinner together with friends, in what I’m assuming is Italy…? Anyway, it looks like Eli has her hand raised, and she’s looking into the lens of the paparazzi (like the famewhore she is, she probably called them), and it appears she’s wearing a ring on her left hand. Engagement ring? Eh.

George Clooney might finally be ready to take the plunge with hottie girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis — cause she was spotted flaunting what looks to be a giant engagement ring … emphasis on “looks like.”

The notoriously single star was dining in Italy this weekend with his model girlfriend and several friends.

Either Elisabetta is either ordering five of something … or she’s bragging to a friend about the boulder on her finger.

[From TMZ]

This bitch. Seriously. Well, I have to admit something, and I hate that I’m saying this, but… Eli has stuck around for MUCH longer than I was expecting. I thought she would be done right after the Oscars, and then I thought she would be done when George was filming in Hawaii, and then I thought she would be done when the cocaine-and-hooker scandal broke. But it looks like she’s made of some tough stuff (latex?). She’s weathering all of the ups and downs of dating a powerful man (who adores trashy women) in style. So maybe he did give her a ring…? I still think not. More likely she’s just wearing some ring on that finger and she called the paps and wanted to have a different story in the tabloids.

UPDATE: Thanks to those who gave me the heads up on the Gossip Cop story – they spoke to Clooney’s rep, who said: ““It’s a napkin ring.” Eli is a f-cking idiot.

VENICE, ITALY - SEPTEMBER 08:  Actor George Clooney and his girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis attend 'The Men Who Stare At Goats' premiere at the Sala Grande during the 66th Venice Film Festival on September 8, 2009 in Venice, Italy.  (Photo by Pascal Le Segretain/Getty Images)

VENICE, ITALY - SEPTEMBER 08:  Actor George Clooney and his girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis attend 'The Men Who Stare At Goats' premiere at the Sala Grande during the 66th Venice Film Festival on September 8, 2009 in Venice, Italy.  (Photo by Pascal Le Segretain/Getty Images)

LONDON, ENGLAND - OCTOBER 14:  Actor George Clooney and girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis attend the World Premiere of Fantastic Mr Fox and the Opening Gala ofThe Times BFI London Film Festival at the Odeon Leicester Square on October 14, 2009 in London, England.  (Photo by Samir Hussein/Getty Images)

VENICE, ITALY - SEPTEMBER 08:  Actor George Clooney and his girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis attend 'The Men Who Stare At Goats' premiere at the Sala Grande during the 66th Venice Film Festival on September 8, 2009 in Venice, Italy.  (Photo by Pascal Le Segretain/Getty Images)

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  1. denise says:

    He looks so disinterested in the last bottom pic. My bad, meant to say she.

  2. zizzivirizzi says:

    It’s not an engagement ring. Gossipcop got a very fast denial from Stan

  3. mln says:

    Honestly I think everyone over estimates George because he is so charming. Would not surprised if he did marry her. She has proven herself to be very useful by deflecting all attention from him and his preferences.

  4. Eileen says:

    No way-that looks like a giant cocktail ring-it just is on the wrong finger…but I’m sure she put it there for sh!ts and giggles.

  5. rachel says:

    Denial on Gossip Cop

  6. doris amato says:

    According to Stan (George’s rep), what Elisabitchy is flashing is a napkin ring. NO ENGAGEMENT RING. WHEN IN THE WORLD IS HE GOING TO GET RID OF THAT NUT JOB?

  7. Hautie says:

    Clooney has always said, without hesitation, he would not ever legally marry again. (did you know, his ex-wife is married to hottie John Slattery)

    So keeping her around, I suspect, will never lead to a legal marriage. No matter how calculating she might be.

  8. Tiffany says:

    I wondering if he is keeping her around until he can prepare the next ‘actress’/cocktail waitress for her big entrance. If would not surprise me if he has his eye on someone else. Younger prehaps?

  9. Kiska says:

    I highly doubt she has tamed Ole Clooney. I cannot see him getting married but stranger things have happened. She probably seems very foreign and exotic to him. The best way to learn a foreign language is to take on a lover. I bet he is fluent in Italian now! 🙂

  10. coup de grazia says:

    um, so la famewhore puts the napkin ring on that particular finger, raises her hand in the air, looking in the direction of photogs while no one else in the pic is? hmmmmm.

  11. NoWay says:

    This does get the people off the topic about how old he looks in those shirtless pictures. I don’t think they got the response they wanted on those pictures. My problem with them was if he didn’t really like her, what was he getting out of this contract relationship? Certainly, not great publicity, but you are right she appears to deflect some of the negative publicity away from him though. Still doesn’t seem worth it on balance though.

  12. guesty says:

    that elisabetta is such prankster.

    *major eyeroll…major*

  13. Praise St. Angie! says:

    “so la famewhore puts the napkin ring on that particular finger, raises her hand in the air, looking in the direction of photogs while no one else in the pic is?”

    yup, that’s about the size of it.

    yeah, she’s not trying to stir the pot AT ALL, is she?

    guesty, I’m seconding that MAJOR EYE ROLL!

  14. Aqua says:

    I think most people thought she would be gone by now but no matter how much she stirs the pot she still seems to be around. I’m not a fan of hers but if he wanted to get rid of her he would have by now.

    Maybe what they say about men when they reach a certain age is true. They get tired of dating and will marry the next girl who comes around the corner. I know he won’t marry her but maybe Clooney is tired of being known as the eternal playboy and MIGHT settle down with her.

    Its just a thought.

  15. julie says:

    ugh..the longer he stays with this moron the less i like him…i always thought he was an intelligent guy but now i’m not so sure.

  16. Annie says:

    Sorry all you Eli haters but being an Italian myself, she’s giving the unspoken signal for “PIZZIANO” or if you were greek “UFFAH” or if you’re American “YOU’RE A FUCKIN IDIOT”. What she is NOT doing is fake flashing a fake ring to a camera man.

    In fact, it looks like she and the other dude are looking at some other dude at the end of the table who just said something funny.

    Hate on Eli Haters…hate on.

  17. snappyfish says:

    I think she is lovely. He likes these type of girls and the fact that she is Italian is a big plus for Clooney, since he makes Lake Como his main residence.

    I doubt he will marry her, simply because why bother. He clearly isn’t interested in having children and likes his life carefree. So he is a serial monogomy. If I were in his position I would probably do the same thing.

  18. jane16 says:

    @ annie, you should sober up before you comment next time, you sound ridiculous. Maybe there are unspoken signals in your ely fan club that involve putting something on your wedding ring finger & holding it up and outwards, becuz as a Greek, married to an Italian, we have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. Your statement about ely & another “dude” looking at someone else at the end of the table doesn’t wash either, the man next to GC is looking at someone at end of table, GC is looking at someone across the table, & Ely looks exactly like what the other site says she is doing, holding up her hand, displaying the back of it, with a large something on her finger & she is looking off at someone in the distance. Sounds like you’re an American Haaaattttteeerrrr to boot. Nasty.

  19. original kate says:

    of course he didn’t. i know this because hell didn’t freeze over this morning.

  20. Whatever says:

    “Anyway, it looks like Eli has her hand raised, and she’s looking into the lens of the paparazzi (like the famewhore she is, she probably called them)”

    Ha, that’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw the picture!

  21. Rosanna says:

    All right girlies, all this hate will give you a very bad karma…

  22. Praise St. Angie! says:

    Annie, just for kicks and giggles, let’s say you’re right, that she was just making a gesture with her hand.

    maybe you’ll know the answer to this one, then…

    why did she put a NAPKIN ring on her (ENGAGEMENT) ring finger and hold it aloft so the waiting paparazzi could see it, and misinterpret it in the way she KNEW they would?

  23. aenflex says:

    She reminds me of a busted up version of Famke Jensen (sorry, Famke)

  24. Milan says:

    OMG! By George, I think I’ve got it…Is it me or does Elisabetta look like George in a wig. Fabulous a modern day retelling of the greek myth of Narcissus.

  25. rachel says:

    She’s a famewh*re and a coke addict. Clooney is a moron.

  26. Solveig says:

    I don’t want to sound offensive, but this story is just delusional.
    Annie is right, and although most of you love bitching famewhores (as I do), this time it is an epic fail and we are discussing about nothing.

  27. Aqua says:

    She is not looking at “some other dude at the end of the table who is saying something funny” She is holding her hand up with the napkin ring on her engagement finger and then she is looking straight at the paparazzi which is some distance away. Their is no mistaking this picture or misinterpreting it.

    She knows what people will think and what people will say when they see this and she loves it.

  28. noname says:

    Isn’t that exactly the kind of stupid crap the last ding bat he dated started doing; getting a little too sure of herself and all “Clooney will put a ring on it, you just wait and see”; right before he dumped her ass?!

  29. Raven says:

    I flashed on that second photo with Clooney and her turquoise dress and thought To Catch a Thief. Grace Kelly wore 2 dresses similar to this, one in a baby blue and one in white in the film. And Clooney in that photo is channeling Cary Grant.

  30. Elm says:

    I ran Eli’s horoscope chart and found that her moon (which rules emotions and feelings) is in capricorn – meaning this woman has no feelings for anyone, ever – she is as hard as a rock.

    Furthermore, her mars and libra are in libra and scorpio – meaning that sex and secrets are central to all her relationships and will be forever.

    In all – this woman does not care one iota about anyone but herself, she will use and jerk everyone around at her whim – then dispose of them without a second thought when someone more useful comes along.

    So – she will continue to enjoy and taunt everyone around – with lots more pranks like the ring incident – because it inflames everyone so easily and buys her all the publicity she thrives on – these days its easier than the hardcore porn which was necessary for her to get any attention … btw, how has she managed to get all her dirty videos blacked out on the internet?

    by dangling off the arm of an aging lothario – whose image is permanently tarnished … clooney has gone from appearing a sophisticated man to a pathetic oldie who cannot manage his young arm-candy…

    What a waste and pity – now the coffee maker, watch and dvd’s are in the garbage … and no more paying for his disgusting behaviour – boooo

  31. Mouse says:

    She sounds like a clingy flake. I agree with you Raven, George is definitely giving off a Grant vibe! Why is his hand bandaged in those photos??

  32. Aqua says:

    I think it was around the time he closed the car door on his hand and broke it.

  33. Flipper says:


    George has a moon in Capricorn as well.

    Two cold moons, two icey hearts perfect for each other.

  34. Elm says:


    Hey – you are right – Cloons moon is also in capricorn – that could be their attraction!

    Anyway – i have been wondering about their lies and jerking the public around – last summer her friends were shouting out in the internet claiming they were dating in 2006 … here is a link to one of those times – and it coincides with the whitewash of Eli’s background


  35. She'sDone says:

    Maybe instead of actually getting engaged, she decided to buy her own ring. tacky That it is a phoney and meant to encircle somehting you wipe your mouth on? priceless

  36. Aqua says:

    I know I’m playing into her publicity seeking hands and every time I see a headline about her I just think to myself “oh God not Her again” then I think O.K. I’m just going to read the post and O.K. don’t comment, don’t comment, don’t comment, but then I read everyone else’s comment and I find I just can’t help myself, I just have to comment. If I quit I’m sure I would suffer from some serious withdraw symptoms.

  37. Crash2GO2 says:

    She looks as totally not into him as he looks as totally not into her. Weird.

  38. Reality Check says:

    Eli enjoys toying with the paps to make George’s female “jealous” lol, that’s why she attention whores.

    What’s unfortunate is George not putting a stop to her childish antics. Not sure if this is a smart move on his part., business wise that is. It will be interesting to see IF his relationship with Canalis affects “The American” at the box office.

  39. Leek says:

    She’s so embarrassing. I hope he marries her. That’s what he’d deserve.

  40. ufo says:

    Eli has a gummy smile, George looks gorgeous.

  41. justine says:

    George is a love, Elisabetta was cold and he has pulled his jacket and put it on her shoulders … that gentleman!


  42. From the full set of photos, she left wearing the napkin ring – so, she just stole it from the restaurant?? Classy girl but then, we already knew that. She looks directly at the paps a number of times throughout dinner just to make sure they are taking her picture. I guess she thinks if they are papped together then he has to take her to the Emmy’s. Note that it’s Rameypix AGAIN – the same pap agency that got her in the bikini on the boat on the lake, the fireworks pictures, the ‘sad after name linked to hooker/coke scandal walking on the street in Milan’ pictures, motorcycle pictures, etc. All the ‘candids’ from this summer have come from this one agency. Either they are obsessed with Eli or she has them on speed dial. I know which option I believe.
    Does she have no dinner etiquette whatsoever? Playing with her phone at the table, taking a call at the table then making a scene to leave the table, putting on lip gloss at the table, full on head grab to kiss him with her hands on his face, etc. Seriously, how crass is this woman? George likes them, young, slutty and willing to do anything to get on that red carpet, that’s his choice. I just can’t figure out why he puts up with the drama and the lack of manners for him and his friends from her over and over again. Could just be photo assumption on my behalf but she really seems high maintenance and he doesn’t seem to be the type to enable that but with this one he really has.
    She is starting to get a bit desperate now, isn’t she? Before, she swanned around as if she owned the place and that all the attention was about her. That she deserved the attention. That she was the star and she was loaning George some of her spotlight. Notice the difference in her behaviour since her Leverage debut?? She is getting clingy and way too expressive in her interviews with declarations of love and insisting that everything is good. The number of staged pap shots and interviews has quadrupled in the past two months (Leverage premiered on 20th June in the States).
    Before the Leverage flop and her Italian tv show got shelved, she said very little, if anything about George in interviews (not that she had much going on but I am referring to the Cavalli gig, the Italian TV show gig, etc). She spoke that her career was so very important to her and that she was dedicated to acting. Since she was panned by the critics and punters alike for her ‘acting’, everything is now about George. That George is the most important thing in her life. That where he goes, she goes as they can’t bear to be apart, that her career doesn’t matter, etc. She thought dating him would open all these doors in the States and that work would be offered to her on a silver platter. Guess the phone isn’t ringing and she realises that George is her only ticket as her acting talent hasn’t landed her any jobs due to be so bad.

    Leek – I couldn’t agree more.

  43. Mrs. Claus says:

    I’ve had enough of Grand Pa and The Happy Hooker. So, I won’t be watching the Emmy’s and won’t see The American. When his movie flops he can blame his drug whore.

  44. Josephine says:

    I listen to her in the interview. Only hearing peoples comments on Ely, I’ve changed my view, she sounds charming and fun to be with, I can see why George is smitten with her. I hope they stay together and have lovely children. He needs other things in his life. But dont have two children they will drive you insane. And George put the shirt back on you’re ruining the fantasy.

  45. Aqua says:

    I use to think that he was a man who wouldn’t put up with any crap from his girlfriends, I obviously couldn’t be more wrong. He’s getting exactly what he deserves.
    I use to really like him and his movies but not so much anymore. The more I read about her for some reason the more I’m put off by him for putting up with it, who knows he just might like what/how she’s handling all of it. This whole relationship/publicity thing is now overkill for me.
    He hasn’t had a box office hit in a while I don’t think this one will be much different.It might be the #1 movie for the weekend that may be just about it. I could be wrong though.

  46. Lorenzo says:

    I agree.

  47. SandiEgo says:

    @ Aqua, for pretty much all of your posts

    George really should take his father to the Emmy’s when he receives that humanitarian award. That would be the classy thing to do. You were totally right on that one Aqua.

  48. tuscan sun says:

    I’m really shocked that George has let this woman walk all over him like this. I couldn’t believe he didn’t dump her after she publicly ridiculed Jen Aniston (one of his friends). And now she’s pulling this stunt with the ring and he’s okay with it? Sad. If he brings her to the Emmy’s she’s going to make it all about her. No one will be talking about his humanitarian award once she’s there and making a spectacle out of herself. It makes a mockery of the honour and is disrespectful to the people granting him the award.

  49. DDRD says:

    mmmhhh.. Annie, what does the heck means “Pizziano”, please enlighten us. I’m italian too and I never heard this word.

    and then averyone despite from his/her nationality could se she’s just waving at the paparazzi in order to fake a big ring-FAIL.

  50. Royal Oak says:

    He mainly “hired” her to “promote” “The American.” So, expect to see her a little while longer.

  51. K Taylor says:

    Other than the pic where she’s grabbing his head to force him to kiss her, he doesn’t look like he’s paying her the slightest bit of attention. Hilarious.

  52. puddintane says:

    George will still be my hero even if he gets married. After all the good things he’s done for other people, he deserves to be happy no matter what he does.

  53. anonymous 2 says:

    These pictures were not taken last weekend there were huge storms all over the lake that weekend and did not clear until a day or two ago.

    It must have been the weekend of the 7th-8th at the latest, there have been two reports of George being back in LA on the 11th and a few days later on his bike.

    Twitter News from the Leverage set said she left the US before the wrap party which was on the 8th. If she went back to Italy on the 6th or 7th these shots were most likely taken that weekend . If he came back to the US straight after that weekend it seems likely he is home in the US without her, it’s not very logical for her to be in the US to film her TV slot, go back to Italy for one dinner then travel all the way back to the US again.

  54. She'sDone says:

    NoWay..what are you talking about? that pic was a still from the movie, gc in character. to what reaction are you referring? those engagement pictures are embarrassing for her…that stony expression on his face speaks volumes. she won’t like the sink back into obscurity.

  55. NoWay says:

    She’sDone- A lot of sites said he looked old, skinny and sick in those movie shots- even this site. I know it was for the movie- but not sure that was the response they wanted even with him in character. Still her “napkin ring” photo is priceless as far a publicity stunts go. If the old adage any publicity is good- then she is batting a thousand.

  56. She'sDone says:

    No Way did not see or read that…I think people forget that he is playing a character an aging murderer who may be facing his own mortality. that is what i see when i see that photo gc in character..as i said a still from the movie..anyway..as far as creepy canalis is concerned she is an embarrassment and now has stooped to begging that always gets a man to the altar i mean the elvis chapel..if she had any class she would know this

  57. She'sDone says:

    any publicity is good publicity the mantra of the desperate and talentless (she fits both categories)

  58. She'sDone says:

    yes Solveig it is an epic fail on con alis part to deceive the public into thinking she is engaged. epic fail on her part..i couldn’t have said it better myself.

  59. Messenger says:

    When actor’s gain weight for a role, dye their hair or grow a beard, everyone understands that it is for the role. gc went “gray” for the American. There was an article posted recently which explained the director’s vision for his character and that he should be grayed to blend in, as he was in hiding. This is not rocket science. Do you think he can’t dye his hair and bulk up if the role called for it? He looked robust in Hawaii and everyone said he was fat. He is an actor. One of the tools they use is their physical appearance. Hello??

  60. BKStarr says:

    @ #60 ROTFLMAO!!! Damn, daddy and daughter are twins!

  61. Palmer says:

    Posting this on the correct page. Sorry guys…

    I think GC has found a way to get his wish, of “a private life without the press”. When she held her hand up in that restaurant knowing full well what she was doing and that she was being photographed–she went too far with this fan. She was taunting us–spitting in our eye and she knew it. So, O.K. Eli you win. George, you lose.

    You’ve set her up in the media for pomotion at every turn: Hollywood, TV and in movies soon (I’d bet), promoting her and hauling her around on your arm and funding her. You promote printing the words “Italian Beauty” everywhere. She’s attractive, but she’s no Sophia by a long shot. Sophia is a class act. (Sorry Sophia that I had to mention you in this post.)

    We always knew G that you had really horrible taste in women. It used to be amusing. This, however, has turned into just plain sad. You are what you hang with, G. And I, for one, don’t like being the butt of a joke driven by your (*) girlfriend.

    I did want to see The American, but not now. I can’t see your stupid face without thinking how you’ve f**ked us all by allowing this woman to run you at our expense. I am completely aligned with the others who have posted here. You’ve allowed her to mess with the hand that feeds you. And here’s a wake-up call buddy. Your fan base is FEMALE.

    So, have a private life and thank your girlfriend when you can hear that pin drop.

    *** I encourage the rest of you to cease posting anything at all about GC and vicariously giving his (*) girlfriend attention. She deserves the quiet!

  62. HookersRUs says:

    Don’t believe Palmer’s drivel. It is just another attempt, albeit veiled, to get people to stop the counterattack against canalis’ truly lame pr. A sow’s ear does not a silk purse make. They can say whatever they want and call her out in glowing terms but those with eyes to see and read for themselves do not buy it. Until the entire public relations industry, which is based on lying, changes its tactics, discerning the truth will be left up to the reader. Those who use pr people to self-promote in a dishonest way are liars as well. The only defense against them is to speak out on blogs and withhold box office dollars. They may think we are dumb enough to buy whatever they throw at us, i.e. canalis is a raving beauty and a talented actress, but we know it isn’t true and should continue to say so. People are right to boycott his movies if they are insulted and outraged by his association with this woman, fake or real. She is a porn actress and probably a fascist. She is arrogant and self-promoting and self-centered, hiding behind her accent and a limited grasp of English. This behavior suggests she is of limited intelligence. Lies are all she has to sell herself, that and nudity and now her “affair”. Hence the pr campaign to sanitize her image. That it hasn’t worked is, I’m sure, pissing her the hell off. This is America. We fear no one. And we tell the truth. So go sell it back in Italy where your association with Berlusconi (a known criminal) covers your pathetic ass. Here we call it like we see it. Oh, and save your money for that plastic surgery you’re saying you don’t need. Because from where I’m sitting it looks like you’ll definitely need it.

  63. Ghost says:

    Palmer and HookersRUS, I’m copying and sending both of your post to Stan. I’m going to send him a message via his Facebook page. I think we all should.

    Good point Palmer about George cutting off the hand that feeds him.

  64. Palmer says:

    HookersRUS? WTF are you talking about anyhow? Drivel? I DO NOT have any connection with the PR industry. Are you dense? Really. You either misread my post or you are not getting the message. PR crap like these blogs means EXPOSURE and exposure means MONEY. Follow the money, sweetheart. If the public shows no interest, doesn’t see his movies and stonewalls him he has NO exposure.

    If you stop posting about about GC and his (*) girlfriend all he’ll have left is his PR dept. That will fade into oblivion without our interest. You can’t BE a celebrity without someone to WATCH!

    So here’s the equation for you again, darlin’: “quiet”, the turning off of, is the only weapon, which can make a real difference, that the public has against advertising. If you think posting about them fights the good fight, your efforts are misplaced.

    QUIET = GC gets the message.

  65. HookersRUs says:

    sorry drivel miester aka palmer. why then do you get on the blogs and try to silence those who speak against her? saying we are jealous, don’t have lives of our own, etc. you must be italian, because here in America, we have something called the 1ST Amendment. and we get to speak our mind even if the likes of you don’t approve. since she first muddied up our view, she has done nothing but try to present herself as a sweet, pure wholesome girl. that we didn’t buy it caused you and your ilk to come on the blogs as call us names and attack our posts, when all we were doing was expressing our disgust at her dishonesty. Like I said elsewhere, if she had just rolled with what she was, and had any talent, she probably would have got some work maybe as a d list actress, but no more. She sunk her own ship. We do not take kindly to people blatantly lying and insulting our intelligence, when the evidence was all over the blogs, try as you might to suppress it. It was there and we saw it. and no amount of insulting us will change our minds. As for clooney, he is an actor, director and writer, not a celebrity. you are confusing smut with substance. not a surprise coming from someone who works for canalis.

  66. Messenger says:

    Wiki defines celebrity as: a person who is easily recognized in a society or culture. Someone who gets media attention and shows an extroverted personality. There is a wide range of ways by which people may become celebrities: from their profession, appearances in the mass media, or even by complete accident or infamy.

    It is my opinion that calling someone a celebrity is a misnomer and an insult IF there are other words to define who they are and what they do. It is like calling someone the lowest common denominator of what they are, unless of course what you are is best covered up by a euphemism.

  67. Palmer says:

    HookersRUS: Amazing… You’re on an amazing roll. American, Italian, French, Spanish, simply doesn’t matter what or who you are. I certainly support your right to think whatever you want, to make-up the most delusionary scenarios and rant the best nonsense I’ve read lately! Go girl. Create it. Define it. Enjoy it until the cows come home. It’s a free country, darlin’. WOOHOO! GO FOR IT!

  68. HookersRUs says:

    What BS Palmer! YOu so do not support my right to think whatever I want, but alas, you have no intelligent contra-response to my post so you pretend to be open minded! I stand by ALL my posts. until the cows come home. p.s. maybe paris hilton will hire you, as you are soon to be unemployed. she aint’ much but she speaks english and she is what she is, no spin b.s. with her…give it a shot! ciao!