Oksana Grigorieva on Larry King: I walked out on $15 mill (update: Mel responds)

Oksana Grigorieva was on Larry King last night to tell her side of the story. She described Mel’s attack on her the night of January 6th and explained how he hit and choked her and “brandished” a gun. She also denied leaking the phone tapes or trying to extort money from Mel, claiming that she’d walked out on a $15 million offer from Mel to drop the charges and provide him increased visitation with his one year-old daughter, Lucia. As for her motivation for recording Mel, she said that she was afraid that she wouldn’t live through the night and that she also wanted a record for Mel, so that she could show him how he sounded.

I think Kaiser summed up this situation best in her last story on Oksana, in which she wrote thateven with all of her faults as a person, [Oksana is] still a victim of a violent, nasty piece of sh-t who physically and emotionally abused her, and the fact that she’s going to war with him publicly makes me respect her.” My feelings about Oksana changed slightly after watching her on CNN, where she came better than she did in the videos she made for People.com. (Here’s a link describing my impressions at that time, which I don’t want to get into again.) So I agree with Kaiser and do respect the way Oksana is calling Mel out, even though many people are faulting her for that same reason. She’s not a “perfect victim” and is not taking it laying down. E! Online has a very good summary of Oksana’s interview, and you can read the transcript and watch the full video on CNN

“Jan. 6, this year, the beating took place,” Grigorieva recalls in the interview that aired tonight. “Mel actually assaulted me while I was holding the baby in my arms…I ran into my son’s bedroom and told him, ‘Mel’s crazy.’ ”

She says that her 12-year-old son, Alexander (with actor Timothy Dalton), hid behind the bed as she stood there with Lucia, “like a mother protecting her cubs.”

He came into the room “and struck me twice,” she continues. “He wasn’t drunk. He hit me, and choked me in front of my son and brandished a gun at me.”

Gibson was apologizing by the very next day, promising to get “treated” and “be evaluated,” Grigorieva says.

In a signed declaration, one of the supposedly sealed documents from their family court case that have been leaked to the press, Gibson admitted to slapping, but not striking, his ex.

According to the actor, they fought and Grigorieva grabbed Lucia out of her bassinet and started running. “Her rapid movements were causing Lucia’s little body to be flung from one side to the other, her head shaking violently…I slapped Oksana one time with an open hand in an attempt to bring her back to reality,” Gibson stated. “I did not slap her hard. I was just trying to shock her so that she would stop screaming, continuing shaking Lucia back and forth.”

Either way, Grigorieva tells King that she feared for her life afterward and ended up taping Gibson on the phone because she thought she wouldn’t “live through the night,” because he threatened to come over and kill her.

“I wanted my mother to be able to prove that, if I’m dead, that this is who did it,” she says.

And as if the recordings that made it online weren’t disturbing enough, Grigorieva says she has “nonedited” tapes that are “unforgivable.”

Having said her decision to speak out was all about this issue of domestic violence and her daughter, Grigorieva says she thinks victims of abuse are “really decent human beings.”

“They cover up for perpetrators, they’re trying to help them,” she says. “In the back of my mind, I thought, If I don’t killed tonight, I’d like him to hear what he sounds like, to get…better.”

“I wanted to help him, as strange as that may sound.”

Martin Garbus, the attorney who joined her on the air, explained that it is legal to record people without their knowledge in California if one feels his or her life is being threatened or if there are “illegal connotations” in the conversation.

When asked how the tapes got released, Grigorieva says, “I have no idea. They were in possession of my lawyers and the court.”

She says he called her 30 or 40 times in one night, and she recorded him eight or nine times.

Meanwhile, Gibson has accused Grigorieva of making the tapes to extort money from him.

“We think the extortion charges are retaliatory for the domestic violence case,” Horowitz told E! News. “She talks about why she made the tapes. She was fearful and wanted [Gibson] to change. She wasn’t trying to extort him.”

“I never have extorted him,” she says on TV tonight.

Grigorieva admits that not breaking up with Gibson after he supposedly became violent was a mistake.

“I stayed for a little bit too long,” she says. “I gave him last chance. He asked me for the last chance. He begged. He cried. He cried on his knees. What am I supposed to do?”

“At the beginning of our relationship, he said, ‘There’s a dark side of me I don’t want you to see,’ ” Grigorieva tells King, who asks her multiple times about Gibson’s drinking.

“No liquor, not once,” she insists, maintaining that Gibson never drank around her.

“As a human being, as the mother of his child, I would forgive him, but he really needs to come and acknowledge what he’s done and what he’s doing,” she says.

[From E! Online]

A lot of people are going to be wondering about her motivations for coming forward after she’s released all this evidence. I think she wants to share her side of the story, and try and show that she’s not doing this for money. She also is worried about her daughter now that Mel has shared custody. On Larry King, Oksana claimed to be speaking out for domestic violence victims and said “I guess what I’m trying to do is step in for domestic violence, not just for myself, not for this six months of torture that I went through and my daughter, but also other domestic violence victims. Because this is a very high profile case and I have this opportunity to be invited by you. Other victims might not have such a chance to speak up.” Do I believe that’s her main motivation? No. I do believe that she’s telling the truth about Mel, though. We heard him admit hitting her while she was holding the baby and threaten to kill her, and his excuse for that is laughable.

Update: As a result of this interview Mel is filing for full custody of Lucia, claiming “that Oksana’s false and derogatory statements to the media about Mel and the attempt to sully his character show she is not acting in the best interests of Lucai.” This only shows what a mean, petty bastard he is.


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  1. someone says:

    I think she talks way too much..and she should have taken the 15 mil.

  2. BIte me says:

    Best of luck to her son and daughter.

  3. Rita says:

    Mel’s a puke but this chica ain’t no woman’s rights advocate or demure victim. She’s making a run for everything she can get and probably was from the day she met him but because her target is Mel, that’s fine with me.

  4. Whatever says:

    She went with Larry because he is the biggest softball interview in the country. What happened to Oprah? My guess that she probably started asking real questions and she doesn’t pay her guests. I don’t believe for a second that she didn’t think she would live through the night. One of her 42 lawyers told her to say that to avoid wiretapping charges.

    What he did was wrong and I agree with her statement that he needs help, but Oksana is a bitter, hateful, vindictive woman and she will absolutely poison that little girl. This interview had nothing to do with domestic violence and everything to do with revenge. Larry should have read the text where she told Mel she would get him. She sure has.

    There must be a pack of wolves in the hills of Malibu in need of a new cub. They can’t be any worse than what she has raising her now.

    This interview is like a presidential debate. If you liked her before, you like her now and if not, you probably still don’t.

    On the update, good for him. The reality is that it is done and over and he will have access to his child, just like Charlie Sheen still has. So far, his visitation has remained the same and that is not likely to change, depsite Oksana’s comment that the system is “broken” since a judge gets to decide custody. (we laughed our asses off at that one) I absolutely agree that the continued, public revenge crusade is not in the best interests of the little girl. The judge did warn her that doing interviews could cost her custody. She either is stupid or doesn’t care.

  5. Get that $$$$$ Oksana!!!

  6. Eve says:

    If she was indeed offered 15 million, then I’m glad she didn’t take it — remaining silent wouldn’t have damaged Gibson’s career and good image (if he had any left after the drunk and racial slurring episode) and maybe many people would still be thinking he was a cool guy.

    Update: This only shows what a mean, petty bastard he is.

    It’s probably the opportunity he took for not paying those 60.000 dollars a month.

  7. mymy says:

    Larry King is such an idiot. He acts like he doesn’t get it. Because he knows stars are more important to him than stars baby mama’s. It is obvious why she taped him duh. No one would believe her.Over at TMZ they have a poll should Mel get custody and it is 8 to 2 in favor of this monster. I just wonder what the heck is wrong with the world.Mel can rot in hell for all I am concerned. I see he is using his ex wife Robin. Went out to dinner with her. She is such a co dependent to allow this. He so abused her and her children yet she lies for him.I would tell him you are finally paying the piper for every thing you have done in this life. Have fun asswhipe

  8. Samigirl says:

    I can’t stand this woman, but I do feel for her.

    edit: I’m really curious to see who the judge is going to end up letting have custody of their daughter…The a**hole with anger issues or the crazy b*tch mom. I don’t necessarily think she is an unfit mother, but she IS stupid for putting all of their business out there like she was told not to.

  9. K says:

    Good for her to speak up. Regardless of any money she recieves, I think she should keep giving interviews, keep dragging his ass to court, keep reminding everyone what this man did to her. For all the defense Mel gets from some of the public, it goes to show you how hard of a fight this is for Oksana. She doesn’t just have the fears of family, friends or police not believing her, but the fear of being crucified by the media and public. I really respect her for not letting this abuse be swept under the rug.

  10. Linda says:

    Yeah, I think she should have taken the money too.

  11. Diane says:

    Read this article.
    Gibson acts like typical abuser. His story about shaking baby by Oksana shows that he lied about it.
    Why he did not take Lucia to a pediatrician if he feared shaken Baby syndrom?It looks that he is pretty creepy father if it would be truth and why he write her How’s your tooth next day? And that he is uspeakably sorry? why he is sorry if he wanted to save his daughter? Gibson has history of erratic and (verbal) abusive behaviour and i can´t believe him.

  12. S says:

    regardless of the situation, the judge told her not to speak to the media until the case is finished. She could shoot herself in the foot doing all these premature interviews – judges don’t like their rulings being publicly disrespected. I hope the judge takes Lucia’s wellbeing into consideration, but really, I don’t think that poor girl has a hope.

    Mel is angry and needs therapy for that, Oksana is bitter and toxic, and needs therapy for what she went through. Can the judge order them both into intense therapy?

  13. Whatever says:

    Mel is angry and needs therapy for that, Oksana is bitter and toxic, and needs therapy for what she went through. Can the judge order them both into intense therapy?


    I agree completely and think they should add a few classes in coparenting.

  14. alex says:

    Whatever: ITA with everything you said. That woman can say what she is doing is all about the child but it is not. What she is doing is all about her and to see how much money she can squeeze out of Mel.

  15. K says:

    @S, you’re absolutely right about her jeopardising the outcome. Remember how much eyewitness testimony was ruled inadmissable in the OJ trial from witnesses selling their stories to the media?

    While I do think she’s doing the right thing by speaking out about the abuse, I agree that she should honor the gag order.

  16. sue says:

    K please!! Yes no one man or woman deserves to be treated the way she was but let’s face facts Oksana is and was a gold digger who sleep with a married man she no sanit. All she ever wanted was money now she got it why taking 15 mill when you can get more than that in child support for the next 18 years and by selling your story to the highest bitter. Neither one needs to have custody of their daughter their both F up I will agree that Mel needs to get manger help before he even thinks about having full custody.

  17. K says:

    @sue, pardon me for letting the domestic abuse and child endangerment issues cloud my judgement. Obviously I should have focused more on her gold-digging history than Gibson’s terrifying rage and abuse.

    I apologise for not seeing the true issue here.

  18. Stronzilla says:

    No one can deny that this man has issues. However, when dealing with an unsafe person the first rule this woman should follow is ‘no contact’. Absolutely none.
    She should have packed up those children and gone where he couldn’t get to her until she could get her head around the situation. Instead she thinks she can beat him at his own game. That comment about having more unedited tapes was total provocation, gas on the fire, and if she doesn’t watch out she will end up dead and then who will take care of those kids? The absentee father of her son and the nutjob father of her daughter? O.J. Simpson murdered his wife, made a televised run for the border and still beat the rap and Mel has infinitely more money. And I don’t believe for a minute he offered her $15 mil or she would have taken it and thats what has made her so intent on taking him down. Yes Oksana, someone should teach him a lesson that he can’t treat people that way but it ain’t gonna be you so grab those kids while you can and leave the country.

  19. Whatever says:

    He so abused her and her children yet she lies for him

    You know them? Because she and the kids have all told the judge there was no abuse. Of course, a random person on the internet would know better though. The I-know-more-than-the-family theories are very entertaining.

  20. Moreaces says:

    Note to Mel:
    Give it up, your little effort to try and prove that you are not a monster is not going to work. The worlds see’s you Mel.

  21. whatever says:

    its sad that most ppl do not have discernment to see what she is doing. her actions are very calculating to distroy mel gibson…anybody who goes against the illuminiti and zionist evil…will be destroyed…poor Randy Quaid…his wife is doing the same

  22. citysuede says:

    no amount of money is worth risking the safety of yourself and your daughter. She can’t win, either she keeps silent and takes the money (and everyone calls her a gold digger) or talks about it to try to raise awareness (and everyone says she is running a smear campaign).

    it is never the victim’s fault no matter who she has slept with.

  23. NayNay says:

    And the bullshit keeps flowing out of her mouth….

  24. Amanda says:

    @whatever LOL what? WEIRD.

  25. justsayin says:

    Mel gibson is taking the position of a hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. he is a shit and likes to hurl abuse I agree but listening to the tapes if you listen to it he should really really pissed off like when someone hurts you soooo bad all you want to do is scream. she sounded to calm on the other end like she was baiting him. she is calculating and a hunter and cold She set her sights on mel to make baby and get money when shit hit the fan she did not anticipate his volatile temper. sad for both of them. it proves mel is still sick and emotionally immature and cannot handle himself and Oksana is a pig who now is using an innocent baby who needs both parents as a weapon and all in public. she is not a purely innocent victim she isn’t I smell her hand in this too but we will never know will we? I dont like Oksana but abuse is abuse it is unacceptable in any form.

  26. irena NL says:

    Anyone who believes her BS needs their head examined! Not defending Mel but this woman(?) is a manipulator.

  27. Lantana says:

    I can’t imagine any court in the US would give Mel full custody, but it does look like it’s going to be shared custody. She should go for supervised visitation, but she does need to stfu. I know more about this situation than I do about my own sister’s divorce.

  28. Uzi says:

    @Whatever…I was going to comment, but you’ve said it all! I agree with you 100% and applaud you for not being intimidated by the anti-Mel lynch mob and having the guts to say what so many of us are thinking…

  29. RHONYC says:

    he’s filing for WHAT!?
    what a delusional doucheoid.
    not ever tom cruise and his scientscary cronnies could pull that off after those tapes.
    no friggin’ way!

  30. Chrissy says:

    So you are afraid of a lunatic man so you grab your baby and run to your other kid’s room, thus involving both children in a terrible fight??? I hope she does suffer consequences from this latest round of interviews. Wrong place, wrong time. How many lawyers has this woman gone through? Over 40?? Something isn’t right with this woman.

    (Before you think I’m on Mel’s side, since all this stuff has come out, I can’t stand him and will never see any if his films, past or present. He clearly has severe issues and needs help and possibly jail.)

  31. Obvious says:

    My only issue right now is the judge told her not to go to the press until the investigations and the custody case were over. He told her she may lose custody by going forward (no matter what, bashing your baby daddy is not showing great intentions toward your baby-especially after a judge says zip it).

    Personally I hope she loses custody-and so does Mel. let’s get a third party in here for Lucia. Her own lawyer and a team of nannies who will love the little girl and take care of her.

    Neither of these lunatics deserve her.

  32. Javagirl1 says:

    She is getting the ultimate revenge: destroying his career. And he deserves it.
    The only thing I can fault her for is being attracted to the douche bag in the first place after his DUI arrest where he went on a tirade about Jews. What a turn off.

  33. Xx says:

    This may not be a popular position here, but I believe she has shown herself to be a serious vindictive gold digger, regardless of what actually happened between her and Mel. She has not helped herself or her perception in the public eye and has in fact hurt the cause against domestic violence. She has, perhaps unwittingly, made this whole mess about money and not the wrong of domestic violence. She really should just STFU already. She has been her own worst enemy in this whole thing.

  34. Feebee says:

    I’m not saying she deserved the extremity of the abuse she got, though maybe… I dunno. When I hear those tapes I hear an out of control rage and the voice on the other end knowing that calmness is fuel to the fire, like the interviewers that nod while the subject’s talking to encourage them to continue talking.

    Something happened between those two to set this off. If it had been happening when they were just dating, why wouldn’t she leave then before the added pressure of a child to the mix. So I think (but don’t know) something happened for Gibson to rage like he did. I’m not defending him, sorry I know it sounds like it.

    If you have a calm but still a pit bull on one side of the fence and you start poking him with a stick and poking and poking and poking until he gets so mad he gets through the fence and bites you, what’s the lesson?

  35. OXA says:

    Why is the judge deciding custody of the baby when they courts have not settled on the domestic violence charges. Why would they even consider giving custody to a man as out of control & mentally ill as Mel was in thsoe tapes.
    I think Mel has his nose up the Judges robe, just like the manipulation of the the sheriff’s department to change the DUI arrest report and lose the video of him in his cell going ballistic, which officers said happened.
    I am appalled that any custody would be considered b4 the DV case is settled and I do not fault her for trying to protect her child and going public against him and his army of lawyers etc who have gone full blast and trashed her. I want to hear the un-edited tapes and think she should release them.

  36. Just a Poster says:

    XX I am starting to agree with this thought.

    No one, and I mean NO ONE ever has the right to hit and harm a person, but she is most def no angel either.

  37. daisyfly says:

    I think both of these parents are douchebags. The actions of both parties show NOT individuals who care about the welfare of their child, but of the social standing of themselves. It’s narcissistic behavior that none of us should be condoning.

    My biggest issue here is the idea that Mel’s reasons for slapping Oksana is “laughable”. Oh sure, it sounds laughable coming from someone whose own vitriolic rants have been captured on tape. However, the reason, whether true or not, is never “laughable”.

    My uncle had to PUNCH his ex-wife in the face in order to get her to drop their 2mo daughter that she was holding AT KNIFE POINT. The police hadn’t shown up yet, 20 minutes after the 911 call, and she was getting so agitated that he knew she’d end up hurting the baby if he didn’t do something.

    She ended up committing suicide three days later in her closet. We all know that if he hadn’t hit her, she would have sliced that infant’s throat.

    Sometimes you HAVE to do violent things in order to save the lives of others. It’s probably not the reason why Mel hit Oksana, but the reason itself should never be considered laughable. If it had been the other way around, if a woman had done that to a man who was endangering a child, we wouldn’t be half so quick to call it that – we’d call her brave and her actions heroic. My uncle saved his daughter’s life. His actions were also heroic.

  38. mln says:

    @daisyfly Uhm that story is horrible and I am sorry that happened in your family BUT there was not any weapon mentioned and considering Mel’s documented behavior it is much more likely that Oksana’s version of running away from him while he was in a rage with her children is accurate.
    I watched the whole Larry King episode last night and while I think he is totally senile there was nothing in Oksana’s words that rang false to me.

  39. sapphire says:

    @Obvious-maybe we can get the Jolie-Pitts to adopt her? Get her out of that situation ASAP.

  40. icantbelievethis says:

    @whatever “I don’t believe for a second that she didn’t think she would live through the night.”

    Did you listen to that tape? or all the tapes. He sounded pretty serious in his rage about how she needed a bat upside the head/he’d bury her in the rose garden and no one would know.

    I can’t believe people think he should get custody. Obviously they have never grown up with an abuser. It isn’t pretty and many times when there isn’t an adult around they turn their abuse on the kids.

    Oksana may not be perfect, but no one deserves that. NO ONE! I don’t blame her for the LK interview, MGs camp has drug her through the mud for how long? I wouldn’t be surprised if MGs people leaked the court docs saying he slapped her one time and only b/c she was shaking the baby.

    He should be in jail. He admitted hitting her which is illegal.

  41. Catherine says:

    She should have kept her mouth shut. With that said, I can’t say that Mel deserves full custody. This situation is just out of hand.

  42. icantbelievethis says:

    “I’m not saying she deserved the extremity of the abuse she got, though maybe… I dunno.”

    Yeah my dad always used to say if his wife didn’t push his buttons he wouldn’t have to hit her (including breaking a rib at one point). Oh and then he’d tell me if I didn’t piss him off he wouldn’t need to hit me. I was 12. I wish I could’ve recorded his abuse b/c then maybe someone would’ve been forced to help us. Instead I had to endure it and still suffer from damage as a result of him open handed slapping me across the face (among other beatings).

    I’ll just remind myself that it was my fault when I have nightmares. I’m sure that’ll help.

  43. Devon says:

    While I think Mel needs to be committed for his rage, anger, homophobic & racist beliefs, I don’t think Oksana is this “victim” that she pretends to be. The judge told her that if she violated the gag order, she would risk losing custody of her daughter. Talking about the case, getting your mug on international television & violating the gag order is worth potentially losing your daughter? It looks like this woman is just after the spotlight.

    It’s easy to say “well I’d do this in this situation…” or “I wouldn’t do that…” but if it were my child, I wouldn’t do anything to risk losing her. Keep your trap shut and wait until afterwards. Be classy about an unclassy situation and you will come out on top. Oksana, if she is serious about these claims against Mel, needs to shut up, go in to a hole and wait until this is all over. Then she can talk all about this. It seems strange that she’s gone through 41 different lawyers.

  44. Obvious says:

    @sapphire, i don’t think they’d take her. She’s American…Maybe Sandra is looking for another baby. She adopts from America.

  45. k says:

    I like the way “Eyes for Lies” analyzes Oki.

  46. sapphire says:

    @Obvious-good point. Sandra should be contacted. Honestly, I don’t think either of these disasters are thinking of the child-she just a game piece in what looks like a personal war.

  47. susieqinBA says:

    I don’t think the interview hurts Oks in any way of losing custody I don’t think her attorney would have let her or been there with her, her attorney stated that there is no gag order because the Sheriff’s Dept. has been talking about it. For Mel: all of sudden HE wants full custody when he hasn’t been fighting for custody all of this time but Oks has???? There is NO WAY this judge should even CONSIDER Mel for full custody (I question what one commenter said that how could custody be determined before DV charges are filed [which is pending because of his sleezy lawyers]); Mel has hung himself with his response to the interview, he hung himself when he said, “I slapped her”. Mel is putting on a “fine performance” in the court room and I hope the judge sees right through the man. Let Mel make his statements because when he opens his mouth to say something he just shows that the allegations against him are true, Oks hasn’t “damaged/destroyed” his image HE HAS!

    I do believe Oks should have full custody over the child, tho I don’t agree with her motives as many of us feel about her, but she is the VICTIM of abuse and Mel IS AN ABUSER, Oks is not going to verbally/emotionally abuse her children and she certainly is not going to physically abuse them. I do support her continuing to go public as she has ben doing which is NOT hurting her child whatsoever, she is doing for the best interest of the child. When my son was repeatedly sexually assaulted by an older boy (who was his room mate) at a residential facility I wanted to go public about it to let the community know that this residential facility was a fraud and mislead people and gave people the wrong impression of themselves they did not provide proper supervision, but my attorneys said because my son was a minor. But looking back it would have been in his best interest to punish this facility publicly regardless of the embarrassment it would put on both of us. I did not have support from anyone.

    One other thing: she said Mel didn’t drink during that time he wasn’t drunk that makes his condition MORE serious. His violent rage was not a result of drinking!! That makes him more scarier.

  48. Jeri says:

    I believe her about Mel and Mel can’t get custody because he is displeased. His anger issues have been known for years (sugartits).

  49. leuce7 says:


    The difference between poking a stick at a pitbull and “provoking” a human is that a human has self-control and the ability to make rational decisions (or should have) which the pitbull is lacking. And even then, often vicious dog owners are held accountable for their dog’s attacks because dogs can be trained to be violent or not (although I’m not talking about provoked dogs in this case).

    Maybe Oksana is a gold-digger, and she is obviously a woman with issues–she did start dating 1) a married man, 2) a man with a documented history with substance abuse, 3) a man with serious racial/religious/social prejudices. But I don’t care if we have a signed and witnessed statement from Oksana that she fully intended to have a baby with Mel for the money. NO ONE deserves to be abused.

    A situation like daisyfly’s is different: it seems like it was an intense one-time thing involving someone losing their mind. Mel’s situation is not; his behaviors fit the pattern of an abuser’s, as in the case of icantbelievethis. It is a very different situation, and it is always wrong for anyone to abuse others.

    None of this exculpates any behaviors of Oksana’s, but NO behaviors of Oksana’s deserve a response of abuse. If Mel really thought she was a batshit crazy gold digger out to ruin his and his daughter’s life, he could have left her and sued for full custody of his daughter for her safety a long time ago. Now? BS.

  50. original kate says:

    “One of her 42 lawyers told her to say that to avoid wiretapping charges.”

    @ whatever: ok, again for the people who don’t know: it is NOT illegal to tape a conversation if one of the people being taped knows they are being taped. oksana knew she was being taped, therefore it is not wiretapping. if a third party taped their conversations then it would be wiretapping.

  51. susieqinBA says:

    TMZ manipulates the polls they have regarding Mel/Oksana. The voting is not accurate. I’ve noticed that on many of their polls the percentage stays the same they manipulate the voting to keep it at what THEY want you to think.

  52. Madison says:

    If she was really worried about her daughter she would have listened to the judge and not violated the gag order, but hell hath no fury like a woman full of hate and revenge. I can see why she’s been through 40 lawyers because she listens to no one, not the judge, not the lawyers. If she loses custody she has no one to blame but herself. Never had any sympathy for Oks never will, something just aint right about her. The only victims in all of this are the children.

  53. Crash2GO2 says:

    I can’t believe he actually thinks the judge would consider giving custody to someone who admitted to hitting the person who was holding his child. AND said the things he said that were captured on tape.

    What a petty tiny little vindictive man he is.

  54. mymy says:

    Oksana is a bitter woman? Oh priceless an abused woman is bitter. And I have some insight into abusive mates. It just doesn’t happen over night. His ranting and raving is not even slightly normal. He sounds utterly insane.So I guess she must have caused this behavior. Robin must have done everything right so this is a new side of Mel. Right. Ever heard of common sense? I have never understood the mentality of blaming the victim. But it is all to common. His infidelity toward his first wife was abusive. And they have written things about him being physical with his kids before this Oksana thing. And a fact is documents are being leaked every day by the court. Her tapes were leaked also. But heck she’s a gold digger and deserves this and more . Right????

  55. Amy says:

    I’m shocked at how people are demonizing this woman. C’mon, people, Mad Max was cool and all but this dude is effing crazy!

  56. Lady D says:

    I bet the people that watch Larry King are all talking about Mel today. I don’t know what kind of viewership he has, but she let a whole lot of new people in on what Mel is really like. People that don’t normally read gossip sites or magazines had their eyes opened. He can’t hide it anymore, and he deserves everything he is going to get. Way to go, Oksana.

  57. Debbie says:

    Kaizer The question is What story do we believe that Oksana as told?


  58. Feebee says:

    @49. I’m sorry you missed my point about the pitbull.

    Mel’s temper and violent outbursts were public knowledge before he and Oksana got together. She must have missed the memo. Or maybe she didn’t. I agree that no one deserves to be abused. While he deserves to have been legally prosecuted by now, something about her doesn’t sit right with me (see # 57’s comment). I think if someone purposely walks into traffic and gets hit by a vehicle they bear some responsibility.

  59. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Debbie: So what’s your point?

  60. icantbelievethis says:

    @Crash2Go2 The scary part is that I wouldn’t be surprised if some judge did change custody. I wouldn’t be surprised at all (can you tell I have no faith in the system sometimes?) Anyone but MG would have been arrested by now and the tapes would’ve been accepted as evidence w/o question.

    @Debbie The tapes don’t lie. Neither does his statement that he slapped her while she was holding the baby.

    I swear there could be a video of him hitting her while she’s holding the baby and people would still deny it happened or swear she did something to deserve it.

  61. Heather says:

    Poor kid. Two asshole parents.

  62. original kate says:

    @debbie: his story keeps changing, too. first it was that he didn’t hit her, then it was that he hit her once, now it’s he hit her twice. and his ranting and raving on tape speaks volumes about who he really is.

  63. Kiska says:

    Nicole Simpson kept quiet and look where that got her.
    Mel made serious threats of harm and possible murder and indeed admitted to hitting/slapping Oksana yet Oksana is made out to be the vindictive gold-digger. The fact that Mel is not acknowledging his horrific behaviour is beyond comprehension. I wouldn’t want my daughter raised by such an abusive man and I would fight the same way Oksana is. She could have shut up and took 15 mil and went on her merry way.

  64. Crash2GO2 says:

    “The scary part is that I wouldn’t be surprised if some judge did change custody. I wouldn’t be surprised at all (can you tell I have no faith in the system sometimes?) Anyone but MG would have been arrested by now and the tapes would’ve been accepted as evidence w/o question.”

    You don’t have to preach to me about the lousy system we have – I have experienced the ‘blame the victim for the judge’s bad decision’ scenario myself right here on these boards, so no doubt people would do the same if that happened in this case, as it is happening already.

    I think women from Ventura to Orange County should protest until Mel is behind bars as is right and proper. No one needs that monster wandering around loose.

  65. leuce7 says:


    “I think if someone purposely walks into traffic and gets hit by a vehicle they bear some responsibility.”

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, because you say I missed your point re: the pitbull. But what I’m taking from the sentence above is an implication that she knew he would be abusive and entered into a relationship with him knowing this and expecting to then profit from it? Would that be the issue you have with her?

    Like I said, I’m not excusing her from selfish motivation, but to me, the car set up is still a false equivalency. A two-ton object going at a certain velocity can’t stop on a dime, and yeah, some (really stupid, in my opinion, the logic is beyond me) people will try to take advantage of that.

    But if she truly is only a provoking, gold-digging bitch, Mel could have walked away early on and probably gotten full custody at that point, based on her behaviors. In that case, he would have been in control, and if SHE was out of control, he could have used that against her. But like original kate says, his story changes, too, and I find it a real stretch to believe he is just motivated by the best interests of his daughter, at heart.

    But please note: just because he doesn’t have disinterested motives, doesn’t automatically make her motives disinterested. In his case, I just fully believe that people can and should learn to control themselves. Once might be a provocation, or a temporary loss of control; we are after all, only human. A pattern of behavior, however, is inexcusable to me, and he has a pattern *beyond solely her own accusations.* So I do think, even if she’s doing it for the wrong reasons, that it is the *right* thing to do to call him to task for his crap.

    Hope that was clearer.

  66. Me says:

    I don’t like her and I don’t think he’s any better.

    Fun fact. $60,000 x 12 (mos) x 18 (yrs) = $12,960,000.

    So after she turned $15 mil down this is a deal for him. I don’t know what to think now.

  67. icantbelievethis says:

    “I think women from Ventura to Orange County should protest until Mel is behind bars as is right and proper. No one needs that monster wandering around loose.”

    ITA. More pressure needs to be put on authorities to treat him as a non-celebrity.

  68. Shay says:

    The keyword is money here.
    That was her Oksana’s objective from the beginning, and I doubt she did not know what she was dealing with when she entered a relationship with Mel.

  69. Anti-icon says:

    The ONLY way this makes any sense to me at all (i.e. that she is NOT an extortionist with a pre-divorce plan and media strategy) is if her FINAL GOAL was to get Full Custody of Lucia and live in ANOTHER COUNTRY.

    There are simply too many reasons for me to elaborate.

  70. Carmen says:

    Women lie everyday. My own sister lied about my brother-in-law to gain full custody.

    I’m not aware that Mel had a prior history of violence. Only the one verbally derogatory history of a drunken man. It’s not what a person says that makes him a racist it’s what they do to back it up. There’s no action here to back-up racism.

    Most of you are intent on believing everything a woman says simply because she’s a woman. In fact women are the largest group of child abusers since they are the primary caretakers. And women do physically abuse me. See teen mom.

    Is what Mel called her true? Yes. She’s a gold digger and a whore. (There was no divorce action in place) But hey, if you women feel she’s justified then let her come near your man.

    The only consistent thing about her stories are that she grabs the baby everytime she argued with Mel Why? Was she using the baby to threaten him?

    She lied several times during the interview. She’s even been proved a liar regarding the baby. She told Larry it was her only interview but we know about People and Oprah. How many lies does she have to tell before you get that nothing she says is true?

    She got on the judge’s bad side from the beginning. She hid she signed a settlement agreement. Then the tapes aired after the judge placed a restraining order on them. She’s accused the 2 retired judges and the lawyers during the medieation panel of commiting a crime. The judge told her she had to honor the custody agreement and she’s defied him. The judge had to order her to remove the convicted felon around the baby after she was advised of the man’s history. Then she was told she would put her custody of the baby in jeopardy and she does it anyway. She made accusations about his wife and his other children.

    I point out to you that what she’s doing now amounts to alienation. That child will hear of it from other children in the future.

    Mel has kept everything in the courts. He’s not waging a smear campaign against her. We have no proven lies from Mel. He’s already raised 7 children and already proven he’s fit. He doesn’t have to like the mother of his child. Women leave the children out of your private affairs.

    Mel’s problem is Oksana; his biggest mistake in life. It would be better for Mel to choose self-preservation and abadone the Mel; just pay his child support. Self-preservation is the reason so many men have to walk away from their children; their mothers make life so hellish it’s the only solution.

  71. icantbelievethis says:

    @Mel’s team, err Carmen

    Doesn’t matter what she has said as the tapes speak for themselves. So do his court docs saying he slapped her.

  72. Kitty says:

    I don’t believe her. Verbal abuse is one thing. But her claims about domestic violence just don’t ring true at all. What bothers me is how calm she sounds, and why she didn’t contact anyone while her children were there. I don’t think for a moment she thought he was going to kill her. Mel behaved like a horrible idiot and a horse’s a@@. But why was she taunting him? What else was said during those conversations? Something is missing here; it just doesn’t add up.

  73. NotBuyingIt says:

    Some people cant admit when they are wrong. Everybody bought into Oksanas story when it first came out. But as each version was told her lies became obvious.
    Read this article if your willing to have an open mind. The author of this article started out the same as all of us, shocked and angered at Mel Gibson. Dont bother reading it if youre close minded and unwilling to admit that we’ve been duped.


  74. NotBuyingIt says:

    @>>> 50.original kate:
    @ whatever: ok, again for the people who don’t know: it is NOT illegal to tape a conversation if one of the people being taped knows they are being taped. oksana knew she was being taped, therefore it is not wiretapping. if a third party taped their conversations then it would be wiretapping.

    ========================================If youre going to pretend to know the law, at least present the law accurately.

    “one party consent provision” (18 USC 2511(2)(s); California Penal Code 633). In other words, if state or federal authorities have the consent of one party to a conversation (such as a government informant), the conversation may be monitored. This provision applies ONLY to eavesdropping by law enforcement officials.

    Oksana is NOT a law enforcement official

    California law does NOT allow tape recording of telephone calls unless all parties to the conversation consent (California Penal Code 632)