Lady Gaga on copying Madonna: “There’s no drama, no jealousy, no competition”

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This is Lady Gaga on the cover of the August issue of The Advocate. This is her “self portrait” – or at least that’s what they’re claiming. I’ve just skimmed the article (the full piece is here), and Gaga seems to be fielding questions mostly about politics and her work on issues of gay rights. So, unlike her recent Harper’s Bazaar piece, Gaga doesn’t sound like a coked-out lunatic, claiming that Alexander McQueen’s ghost inhabited her body to write “Born This Way”. Gaga doesn’t sound so druggy here, but… you know, she’s still full of herself. I buy that she’s a passionate supporter of gay rights, and she really does put her time and effort where her mouth is:

Through skepticism and criticism, pop superstar Lady Gaga remains one of the most outspoken advocates for LGBT equality today. She’s been accused of not being gay enough to claim one of the letters the aforementioned acronym, and critics say her activism is superficial, but through it all her devotion to supporting marriage equality, fighting the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, and increasing AIDS awareness remains strong. The Advocate’s Jeremy Kinser spoke with Lady Gaga about her activism, her critics, and her music. Lady Gaga immediately sounded off against some of the skeptics.

“To say that I would use the gay community to sell records is probably one of the most ridiculous statements anyone can make about me,” Gaga states with a hint of frustration in her voice. “I would say the top thing I think about every single day of my life, other than my fans, loving the music, and my family being healthy, is social justice and equality.”

While she may be frustrated by the backlash she has faced, she understands that with fame comes cynicism.

“Rumors, shots at me as a human being, that’s what comes with the territory of being a musician and being someone who is a public figure,” Gaga confesses. “I care only about what I can change. What can I push forward? How can I be a part of the fight for modern social issues?”

Lady Gaga put her money where her mouth was, however, in a recent controversy with mega-retailer Target. The company was set to sell a special edition of Gaga’s album Born This Way, but many LGBTs expressed indignation at the deal after Target came under fire when the company’s corporate PAC made campaign contributions to support antigay candidate Tom Emmer in his failed 2010 run for governor of Minnesota. After the outcry, Gaga met with the company’s “entire executive staff” and soon thereafter canceled the deal.

“You’re either going to try and change or you’re not,” Gaga recalls of the meeting, in which she insisted Target ally itself with LGBT charities and organizations. And, while terms of the deal were not made public, they did not satisfy the singer.

“Taking an ambiguous stance is not what I’m about, obviously. I like to go right for the ass-kicker. You’re either in or you’re out. I’m from New York. I know bullsh-t. I can smell it from a mile away.”

Lady Gaga has also faced backlash—fair or not—for drawing too heavily from another gay favorite and equality advocate, Madonna. Gaga recognizes those comparisons as well as those to other women she admires, including Barbra Streisand.

“There’s no drama, there’s no jealousy, there’s no competition,” she says. “They’re just happy to see other women winning. I just feel so connected to Madonna in a lot of ways, and I feel connected to Barbra, and I feel connected to Cher and Blondie and all of the women who came before me.”

Born This Way: “I would say that’s precisely what Born This Way is all about. It’s not about just being born in one moment; it’s about being reborn over and over again until you find and become that unique and special person inside of you that is the most brave and the most sure and the most ready to take on the world,” she says. “And I was born this way. And that’s who I am. Some people weren’t born to wear masks, but I was. I was born to wear masks and wigs and fashion. To express myself through my clothing and my performance art, and that’s who I am. And the song is meant to be liberating not only from an individual perspective but from a creative perspective.”

Gaga doesn’t take the accompanying fame for granted. She knows that with it comes an equal measure of responsibility. “I believe I was destined to be an artist,” she says. “At the end of the day I could be rolling around in Rolls-Royces, buying mansions for myself, making records, and dancing around in my underwear. But to be honest, I’m not interested in doing that at all. I’d rather be at rallies with the fans, being a part of their voice, helping to mobilize and enforce change. If people don’t believe me, they don’t have to be a part of it.”

[From The Advocate]

Ugh… when she’s talking about gay rights, I’m all “go, Gaga!” And then she starts in with her martyr complex and how she’s not copying Madonna and I just want to smack her a little bit. Ugh, I won’t even start with her.

Here are some photos of Gaga in Taiwan yesterday:

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Photos courtesy of WENN & The Advocate.

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  1. Nev says:

    TOTAL copy of nineties Madonna. Hair, beret, make-up….geez.

  2. TL says:

    Can’t stand her. Not entertaining at all. Weird. I bet the muppets down at Fraggle Rock enjoy her.

  3. Swan Hakka says:

    Madonna was attractive. Gaga is not. And of COURSE she “uses the gay community” to sell records, it’s 3/4th’s of her fan base and she (wisely) panders to it directly. She just enjoys the sound of her own voice, far too much some might argue.

  4. spinner says:

    BLECH!!!

  5. dannyexplosion says:

    throwaway pop garbage

  6. anons says:

    those talons give me the shivers.

  7. Bill Hicks is God says:

    TL says “weird” like that’s a bad thing…

    Einstein = weird
    Picasso = weird
    Dali = weird
    Mapplethorpe = weird
    Jones/Lovitch/Hagen/Bjork = weird
    Van Gogh & most impressionsts = weird
    The majority of teens = weird
    Your parents when you were a teen = weird.

    Typically, people use “weird” when they don’t understand something. Bizarre works much better.

  8. Eve says:

    Indeed, there is no drama, no jealousy or competition. There is plagiarism. Plagiarism, pure and simple.

    Annoying bitch.

  9. Turtle Dove says:

    I used to like her a lot but I find her too much now. All the crazy outfits and soundbites – blech.

    Even Queen Madge takes a day off and dons some sweats for the gym.

    Gaga says that she’s studies fame, but she doesn’t understand that it’s slipping from her because people are getting burned out on the constant image changing.

  10. Jana says:

    This comment is hysterical – “At the end of the day I could be rolling around in Rolls-Royces, buying mansions for myself, making records, and dancing around in my underwear. But to be honest, I’m not interested in doing that at all. I’d rather be at rallies with the fans, being a part of their voice, helping to mobilize and enforce change.”

    Uh, gaga, you didn’t buy a mansion (of course you’re on the road all the time. Why bother), but you are in your underwear all the time danicng and making records and touring all the time, staying at luxurious hotels with your army of staff to do your bidding. You are shuttled around in expensive cars You spend a tiny percentage of your time at rallies. Please stop making yourself more than you are. You’ve done good things, no doubt, but you have to continually paint youself as St. Gaga. when you give one-third of your income to all your charities like Angelina did, I will be impressed. I don’t see it happening to that degree.

  11. RHONYC says:

    Madonna never did over-the-top, outlandish fashion like Gaga. never.

    i don’t get the comparison really.

    on the cover she looks like Faye Dunaway’s Bonnie meets Salvador Dali.

    on the bottom she looks like Cruella DeVille meets Tracy Turnblad from Hairspray.

    😉

  12. Sloane Wyatt says:

    If all you are is a mask and a costume, and being a performance artist who thrives on attention, and then one day find yourself old and out of the spotlight, you will have no core of realness to sustain you.

    For her sake, I hope Gaga cultivates her soul for the long journey into fading away that we all take.

    At the end of the day, being comfortable with your authentic self and being a positive loving force to everyone in your life is basically what counts.

  13. tiredofrumers says:

    lol @ gaga referring to “blondie” as one of the women who came before her. she “admires” blondie so much that she idiotically refers to the singer as such when it’s the bands name. ha!

  14. Jana says:

    tiredofrumors, that’s funny. I didn’t catch that. She keeps throwing hew names out there to gloss over Madonna and can’t even get it right. Now Barbra is one of her icons. LOL My fav was her calling out Whitney Houston at the Grammys as her inspiration her song Born This Way, on purpose, because everyone was saying Born This Way was a copy of Express Yourself. She’s so transparent.

  15. Ron says:

    You know if she just owned it and said “yeah I take a lot of inspriration from Madonna” this story would end. She does, and she needs to own it.

  16. Tiffany says:

    I like the cover photo and I like what she has to say. People get too worked up over the littlest things when it comes to Gaga. She is fighting for equality, and I think her efforts are sincere. I think her music, costumes, and crazy styling are a lot of fun as well.

  17. Tiffany says:

    “You know if she just owned it and said “yeah I take a lot of inspriration from Madonna” this story would end”

    She has said that a billion times in many interviews.

  18. jover says:

    Surely billhicksisGod you aren’t putting this forgettable mediocre narcissist in the same company as einstein, dali, van gogh; their creations have stood the test of time. Perceptive sloanewyatt – and tiredofdrummers her comment on “blondie” shows what an idiot she is – has she never heard of Debbie Harry? I can’t believe there are people, including those in the gay community, that take this corporate created hack seriously. If she held these opinions before becoming famous, i would give her respect, but they’ve been tacked on to sell records – the name of the game in the music bizz – give her gravitas and substance she lacks, and there’s nothing authentic about this. on her own we know her real background she’s just an ordinary upper class mall girl being made into something she is not to sell a product, and in our media saturated world that only works for a while till it’s revealed that the empress has no clothes. She would be better staying under the radar if she wants a long career.

  19. Tiffany says:

    “TOTAL copy of nineties Madonna. Hair, beret, make-up….geez”

    It isn’t a copy of Madonna…it is Bonnie and Clyde (Faye Dunaway). If Madonna used the look, she was using the same source material. The bottom line is that Madonna used a lot of influences, but now people are so uninformed they think for example, any reference to Marlene Deitrich is a copy of Madonna. Madonna copied Marlene! Madonna does not own all references to Marylin Monroe, 30s styling, Marlene Deitrich, etc.

  20. Alejandro reminds me alot of that Madonna song La Isle Bonita.I think thats the name of it,could be wrong,its been years.

  21. Jana says:

    It’s not the good she does that’s taken away from her. It’s her pretentiousness about it and elevating herself, her album (masterpiece of the decade -lol, that’s hysterical), one of the best voices she said, and now she acts like she’s on the road all the time for her causes. Bull. She’s on the road nonstop for her tour and now promoting her album. She doesn’t need to elevate herself to more than she is. She does good. No one says she doesn’t. It’s how she paints herself that annoys people.

  22. ladybert62 says:

    I do wish these celebs would stop shoving their political opinions down my throat – I dont care what her political views are -people seem to feel free to express their views all the time, at all events and regardless of their audience. She is interesting as an artist – not so as a politician.

  23. Jackie says:

    Why is she mentioning Barbra Streisand? Who compared her to Barbra? NEVER EVER EVER will she be Barbra Streisand or any facsimile thereof. Pathetic.

  24. Bill Hicks is God says:

    @Jover: No, I did not make that comparison but thanks for the assumption. My point was that all the people I mentioned were considered off their rocker during their time. They were (some still are) but doing some interesting things.

    Um, and you can’t tell if someone stands the test of time until TIME PASSES.

    Regardless of whether people find her interesting or not is really a matter of taste. She’s the brussels sprouts of pop music.

    However, until GaGa lays a doo-doo on stage like Bjork and completely blows herself out of the water, the verdict is still out for me insofar as trying too hard to shock.

    By the way, while Einstein is remembered for his Theory of Relativity, he should be equally remembered for being a wife-abusing misogynist and philandering narcissist with a low EQ.

  25. mia girl says:

    Seems to me she’s reached a point of diminishing returns with her “performance art”.

    The most shocking thing she could do now is actually show up and perform WITHOUT any of that crap on.

    Until then, YAWN…

  26. Ron says:

    Tiffany Gaga, have you done a billion interviews already at this point in your career?

  27. Nev says:

    no Madonna doesnt own the 30″s references…dietrich, etc…but she was the pop-star who made it hot to draw inspiration the organic way, not copying just for the fun of it…or because you cannot think of anything else.

  28. RHONYC says:

    @ Jackie

    oh. that’s nothing…didn’t you hear (try not to hurl)?

    ‘Beyonce’ *eyeroll* is supposed to be doing the remake to
    ‘A Star is Born’.

    you can throw up now. 🙁

  29. Tiffany says:

    “no Madonna doesnt own the 30″s references…dietrich, etc…but she was the pop-star who made it hot to draw inspiration the organic way, not copying just for the fun of it”

    What does that even mean? What is the difference from getting inspiration “the organic way” verses the “just for fun” way? Through out the history of music and visual art, people have ALWAYS used what has come before as inspiration. Suggesting that Madonna was the first person just reinforces how limited people’s scope is right now. It is like your view of world history stops at 1982…

  30. jover says:

    One more thing about lady xerox. Didn’t she say btw the song was going to re-invent pop music; check the credits – doesn’t it list three other co-writers/producers; she can’t even come up with an original song on her own – she has a battalion of people creating Lady Gaga inc. Corporate music at it’s finest.

  31. tmbg says:

    It just hit me. With this tour of Canada that Will and Kate are on, I haven’t been seeing nearly as much of this dingleberry on my sites as usual!

    I wonder if Will and Kate could indefinitely travel the world?

  32. DSMR says:

    She knows her base. She knows what to say to keep raking in millons of their hard earned cash and as long as they feel she supports the “Cause” that tap will keep running. With time comes awareness, her pixie dust will become transparent soon and her zombies or whatever they are called will wake up and she will fade away.

  33. original kate says:

    ho-hum. shut up, gaga.

  34. Kezia says:

    “I could be dancing around in my underwear but I’m not” …. EVERY SINGLE photo of her “performing” she’s in her underwear, she’s now lying so much it’s gone the beyond-like we’ve seen 100’s of pictures of you dancing around in next to nothing, stop being snidely condescending to the other female pop stars who also dance round in next to nothing to sell a record when you’e just as bad, hypocrite!

  35. Annie_Grey says:

    Now she’s turning into Edith Head. Just needs the glasses.

  36. Oi says:

    Its funny, did this interview bring up any new info on Gag at all? Not that I can see. That thing with Target happened a long time ago. And I think everyone was wrong about that. Target is actually very very gay friendly and has been since waaay before this idiot “schooled” them. The uproar about them being anti gay was when they made one campaign contribution to a bad politician. I’m not saying they were right to do so, but that doesn’t undo all the rest of what they are to me. This woman is not a heroine or a crusader. She just has a lot of press.

  37. Team Brad says:

    Of course she copied Madonna. Just like Madonna copied a huge amount of 1920’s to 1970’s starlets. Look up Joan Crawford in 1920 and she is wearing the exact same outfit Madonna wore in desperately seeking susan. All these people copy what they grew up with. DEAL!

  38. Kiki says:

    very little is original these days. if she ‘copied’ madonna, she only copied what madonna (who is no original herself) copied. neither one has any real singing chops. that doesn’t seem to matter these days.

  39. S says:

    Oh leave her alone. I love her.

  40. Ally says:

    This woman is an empty shell driven by desperate careerism. Costumes, 90s dance music, recycled Madonna, vague rights trope… it all goes in her fame-chasing blender.

    Buy hey, there are enough punters out there who buy it, so good for her for coming up with her novel Barnum & Bailey act. Let’s just not pretend it’s about art or politics, okay?

  41. SusieQ says:

    I will concede that her “tony” interview accent comes across as pretentious: Madonna has that too. Still, I am surprised at all the disdain directed here, toward Gaga. Can we honestly say she’s not talented? She’s listed as the first writer for her songs (which I assume identifies her role as primary?), she’s incredibly prolific, she’s inventive, she’s smart, she’s an advocate for change, she sings in more than one language, and her voice–imho–is better and has more range than Madonna’s and most of the performers of her generation. I kind of like that she’s not conventionally beautiful. Compare her to the other young acts out there. She’s only 25. How many of us had pulled it together at that age? I know I hadn’t. She deserves *some* credit, I think.

  42. Vickyb says:

    It seems to me that MOST of what she does is to dance around in her underwear and make records. But, of course, her underwear is made by avant garde, misunderstood little pixies, and her records are AAAAAAART!

  43. DethHammer says:

    I think Gaga has officially become completely full of it.

    She DID buy a Rolls Royce- she gave it to her parents cause she didn’t want people following her father’s Lexus which has the famewhorish license plate “LADYGAGA”. She also has a 1990 Rolls Royce of her own which she named Bloody Mary (it was given to her as a present by her manager).

    She DID buy a Mansion in Bel Air- which she would share with on-again boyfriend Luc Carl when they would be on the west coast. She then freaked out and thought Hollywood smelled her BS and she went back to NY to reclaim her “(Wall)street cred”. I think she still uses the mansion when she’s on the west coast.

    And as everyone has already pointed out, she literally makes money by dancing around in her underwear and making records.

  44. anotherday says:

    There are some very unique things about Lady GaGa as there were about Madonna when she came on the scene. I think Madonna could use a dose of humility, and realize center stage is not reserved forever. Some of the recent things like the cheerleader outfit and the majorette outfit just make madonna look ridiculously dated, and do not showcase her real talent. I believe Madonna is only creating feuds to draw attention to herself in hopes of reviving her career. Nastiness is rarely the road to success.