Karl Lagerfeld: “It would have been difficult to have an ugly daughter”


In the new issue of Interview, which is “The Fashion Issue”, our favorite grumpy old bastard Karl Lagerfeld interviews Carine Roitfeld, the former editor-in-chief of Vogue France and one of the leading style-makers of the past two decades. I never realized that Karl and Carine are tight, but they are. They’re also hilarious together, unintentionally so. Like, Karl will say something and Carine will contradict part of it, and Karl will come back at her with something even crazier and then Carine just changes the subject. It’s a great dynamic. I can’t even begin to excerpt all of the wonderful hilarity that ensues throughout this five-page opus of CRAZY, so you should totally read the whole thing here. Here are some of my favorite parts:

Lagerfeld on how Helmut Newton was a fast worker: “He never tried too hard, right? The Germans have a saying, ‘Things are spicier if they’re short.’”

On Roitfeld’s work as a stylist, and photographing nudes:
LAGERFELD: You don’t fall into the trap that a lot of stylists have fallen into of doing everything. You think about the woman first. You let the woman come out.
ROITFELD: Clothing is always a tool that helps me take a picture. But it’s never about the clothing.
LAGERFELD: Although for a stylist, doing a nude is even more difficult.
ROITFELD: Mario [Testino] did a lot of nudes. Every morning when we worked together, he had boys coming over and he would take naked pictures of them. I learned a lot because there’s no artifice and it’s all a question of position, of looks, of attitude, the way to position your legs, position your knees . . . It gives you something.
LAGERFELD: There’s a big difference between photographing naked boys and naked girls.
ROITFELD: I was too shy, at first, to come close to these naked guys. I would stand a little ways away from them. With girls it’s much easier.
LAGERFELD: I think it’s easier because naked men are more awkward.
ROITFELD: Yes and then there is always a bit of seduction to it when one person is clothed and the other is naked, which can be a little weird. Everybody should be naked. In that case, it would be easier, wouldn’t it? Let’s do a huge naked photo shoot!

Lagerfeld on Carine’s time at French Vogue: “I think freedom is your biggest luxury. You were literally jailed before… I think you’re more like a bird that can’t be put in a cage. I don’t want to compare myself to you, but it’s like at Chanel, I can do what I want, when I want, where I want. And that’s because I am worth more when I’m free. I think it’s the same thing for you.”

They talk about being Virgos, and having children – Carine has two kids:
LAGERFELD: What I think is particularly accomplished with you is that you always have a vision of fashion and a fashionable woman, but you also have a very successful life as a family woman. You have beautiful, intelligent children and they give you stability and credibility in the eyes of others.
ROITFELD: It’s because I’m a Virgo. Either you are a good Virgo or a crazy Virgo! The good Virgo side of me is educating and raising the children—being there for them.
LAGERFELD: Yes, no one can say that you don’t take care of them. You’re also lucky because they are very beautiful. It would have been difficult to have an ugly daughter.
ROITFELD: A moment ago, you said some flaws are necessary in beauty. They do have a temper sometimes. But they are very good children.
LAGERFELD: The care you take in your children gives a balance to your life. I think it accentuates your talent.
ROITFELD: Well, otherwise you’re too far removed from reality. You’re in your car, you’re in your jet—you don’t have a grip on reality. We can lose touch with reality quite easily.
LAGERFELD: I know some stylists who are like that and it’s sad. If I were a woman, I would love to have lots of kids. But for men, I don’t believe in it.

More on how awesome and crazy it is to be a Virgo:
LAGERFELD: I think you are quite modest.
ROITFELD: People might think I’m very hard, what with my black makeup, my hair over my eyes, etc. My innocence didn’t always help me, but it did preserve something in me that maybe others don’t have anymore. I’m inside my bubble, you could say, and thankfully so, because I don’t think daily life is always great. It protects me. I don’t know if it’s my sign, but Virgos are very faithful. I’m a faithful friend. I’m a faithful lover—
LAGERFELD: I can tell you are, indeed, being a Virgo myself.
ROITFELD: We’re a faithful lot. Faithful in many ways.
LAGERFELD: Some people don’t deserve our faithfulness.
ROITFELD: Some don’t, but once we learn that, I can tell you that we also have a very good memory. I have a memory like an elephant. I don’t forget anything.
LAGERFELD: Me neither.
ROITFELD: And revenge! I forget nothing and then, one day, there will be revenge. Innocence isn’t exactly everywhere. But I will say innocence also takes you far in photography. I don’t have prejudices. I’m against taboos. But of course there are some things I’ll never touch—because as a mom, there are things one doesn’t want their children to be around. I think it’s very important what young people see in pictures or on TV or in magazines. Drugs, violence, anorexia . . . All of the things that I absolutely do not reference in my photos.

Lagerfeld on his mother: “I wasn’t allowed to hold my mother’s arm to cross the street. You know why? Because I squeezed her hard and it bruised her arm.”

On the internet and technology:
LAGERFELD: Do you surf the internet?
LAGERFELD: Me neither. Never. Besides, I don’t even want to have things associated with my name on the internet—it’s very dangerous.
ROITFELD: Is there a fake Karl Lagerfeld Twitter account?
ROITFELD: There’s one for me, too. Everything is fake.
LAGERFELD: I am not a fake . . . I hope.
ROITFELD: I don’t have a Facebook account.
LAGERFELD: I know enough people. We’re happy with the people we know, right? That’s enough for us.
ROITFELD: It’s insane. The internet is becoming more interesting, though. I think the quality of the image on iPads now is extraordinary. What if tomorrow I had to create a magazine? What I hope I would do is something new, but I still love print. I love to touch paper. I’m not sure if I will ever do a magazine again, but I have plenty of ideas on the subject.

Lagerfeld on ivory towers: “The worst thing in the world is to create an ivory tower. Yes, it’s very bad. It’s sterile. I can’t even go in the street anymore. That bothers me.”

[From Interview Magazine]

The piece is full of all of these crazy gems, and it’s like two insane people looking at each other and acknowledging that they don’t really speak the same made-up language. And OF COURSE they’re both Virgos. I swear, celebrity Virgos give the rest of us a bad name. I’m a Virgo, and I’m not even half as crazy as Karl, Carine, Beyonce, Hugh Grant or LeAnn Rimes, all Virgos. Although… between all of us, we barely make up one truly sane person. My favorite part is how the Virgo conversation turns on a dime and all of a sudden Karl and Carine are talking about revenge and how we never forget a slight. God, that’s so true.

Also, Karl‘s quotes on children – “You’re also lucky because they are very beautiful. It would have been difficult to have an ugly daughter.” And, “If I were a woman, I would love to have lots of kids. But for men, I don’t believe in it.” WTF?!? Oh, Karl.




Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. horizonte says:

    somehow, i don’t think it would’ve been difficult for either of these two to have ugly children.

  2. Eve says:

    “You’re also lucky because they are very beautiful. It would have been difficult to have an ugly daughter.”

    Not as difficult as being the parent of someone like him.

  3. Lia says:

    He is one of the most bizarre-looking men on the planet. His daughter didn’t fare so well in the gene lottery either. He looks like Boris Karloff when Boris was trying to look awful….. It’s funny how nature brings out the delusions when someone is just too far gone to be helped in conventional ways.

  4. Quest says:

    He owns mirrors…right? LMAO

  5. dorothy says:

    He’s just CREEPY.

  6. HeiN says:

    It would have been difficult to have an ugly father like him.

  7. Jen34 says:

    IMO everyone thinks their children are beautiful, even if they are not. It is instinctual.

  8. darai says:

    yeah, he’s kind of an asshole. I bet he would have pushed blake lively down a flight of stairs if he had ever seen her pre-plastic surgery.

  9. Eve says:

    @ Darai:

    yeah, he’s kind of an asshole”

    KIND OF an asshole? If they ever create a scale of assholeness, that should be named after him. Like “—– measures 6.8 on The Lagerfeld Scale of Assholeness” or “6.8 of Lagerfeld Assholeness”.

  10. Theuth says:

    Virgos are crazy? LOL As a Pisces ascendent Scorpio I’ve had people coming to me saying I have the “asthronomical set” of a psycho.
    And people think this is a science…
    Karl however is crazy, and not in a good way. I don’t even like his ‘art’.

  11. tapioca says:

    Karl’s being realistic – a large percentage of human beings are physically unattractive and life IS a lot easier for the beautiful. Factor in growing up the public eye and if you didn’t hit the aesthetic jackpot you’re going to know all about it!

    See – The Willis girls, Allegra Versace, Teresa Giudice’s daughters, J-Lo’s Emme.

    People are cruel!

  12. mannequin says:

    Beauty is subjective, therefore, someone may very well think that your daughter IS ugly. Teach your children well.

  13. faye says:

    omg she look just like him.

  14. tmbg says:

    Karl has no kids. The woman is the former editor-in-chief of Vogue and just a friend of Karl’s.

    I expect him to spew craziness. It wouldn’t be a proper interview without at least some.

    Carine needs to consider using some tweezers once in awhile.

  15. poopie says:

    i threw up a little in my mouth just looking at BOTH !!!!

  16. Lady La La says:

    I tried to get through it. God knows I tried.I can’t. I just can’t justify wasting that much of my life……

  17. weeble says:

    That whole interview reads like gibberish. He is such an old stunt diva, LOL, I gotta laugh every time he opens his mouth.

  18. Leticia says:

    I think Karl is winsome, playful, and charming.

  19. hehe says:

    Oh hot damn. I love Karl Lagerfeld. He is basically my dad in gay (Even german!). It really might just be a male German thing from that general time period

  20. Pseudoangie says:

    Does he look like Fred Armisen in the pic with his glasses off to anyone else?

  21. gg says:

    OMG! No wonder he wears those dippy glasses! It’s John Forsythe! Everybody knowing he was on Dallas would ruin his tragic hip image!

  22. bliss says:

    Jlo’s emme is still a baby. don’t forget what they say about the ugly duckling she might surprise you yet

  23. filthycute says:

    I can’t believe Lagerfeld ever slept with a woman.

  24. Ari says:

    I am a virgo and yes we can become very obsessive (crazy) but once its out of our systems – its pretty much never going to be coming back in lol…hence us not forgetting anything – we will always remember how someone made us react.

    I am not sure how I feel about Lagerfield being a virgo though or Rimes for that matter :L (cries)

  25. Nymeria says:

    Yeah, not surprised to hear this coming from Lagerfeld.

    From the Lagerfeld’s mouth: “They [the women complaining about thin models] are fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television, saying that thin models are ugly,” the Chanel designer told Focus, going on to say that the fashion industry supports “dreams and illusions, and no one wants to see round women.”

  26. Calli Pygian says:

    Frightening. No, really.

  27. Jenn says:

    These two are so deep in their pretension cesspool there’s almost no way out. They remind me of Lady Gaga: self-important, pretentious and thinking the rest of the world just doesn’t get them. Yet, at the same time, they really want the unwashed masses’ attention. Otherwise, who would they think they were lording it over?

  28. Skinnybetch says:

    Ugh, fucking SNOBS. Gross.

  29. suggabugga says:

    you have to admit, he makes for good entertainment.

  30. Kitty_Cal says:

    Apparently he hasn’t looked at her lately… Either that or he has some kind of beauty filter on those sunglasses of his…

  31. TQB says:

    They are amusing. As the spouse and soon to be parent of virgos, I’m offended on their behalf. My husband is way less crazy than his Aquarius wife.

  32. Cleo says:

    I think he meant brevity when he said keeping things short is spicier. I love how when he got famous, the Germans SCRUTINIZED his background and even though he had a Russian father, the Germans deemed him one of their own like getting to use the Whites Only lav in Apartheid era South Africa or something.

  33. Kim says:

    Karl needs contacts. She is far from a looker.

  34. Rita says:

    I think Karl would look spiffy wearing a big rodeo belt buckle with a Bolo tie….Vogue that!

  35. Princess Lizabeth says:


    Lagerfeld is very creepy; I am glad he hasn’t procreated.

    Somehow, I picture him being into S&M.

    Eeeek…just creeped myself out with that image.

  36. kieslwoski says:

    Thank you for posting this, I love me some Lagerfeld craziness he is just the best!

    And Carine is still trying to pretend she did not get fired from Paris Vogue, when everyone knows they kicked her ass to the curb b/c of what she did to BAlenciaga.

  37. Glyrics says:

    Cannot stand him. I keep thinking of the woman in The Devil Wore Prada who Meryl’s character smashes to bits

    He did have an ugly child: Vanessa Paradis

  38. Goofpuff says:

    I can’t get over Testino taking naked pictures of boys every morning. That is just creepy.

  39. jinni says:

    This has got to be the most pretentious conversation ever had between two people. I think only Lady Gaga having a conversation about”what is real art?” with James Franco could surpass this interview on the pretention scale.

  40. Shoe_Lover says:

    these b!tches give therest of us Virgos a bad name!!! sure we can be an#l and slightly obsessive but they are just plain CRAZY

  41. Peruvian says:

    Hey Kaiser, not every Virgo celebrity is that bad! Remember our Askars!!

  42. becky says:

    2 darai
    i dont think so, because he hired lily allen to be the face of Chanel purses AFTER meeting face -to- face
    not that I dont think shes beautiful, because i do, but i still think he lost a bet there or something…

  43. Valerie says:

    TO: Eve and Jinni, you two just cracked me up. Thx.
    There really should be a yard stick of asshole and pretentious.

  44. Emily says:

    @Kaiser, Elizabeth I was a Virgo, she should help make up for some of the crazies!

  45. VeneficA Delirium says:

    @Tapioca: I disagree and happen to think the other way around. I see most people and see a lot of potential to be beautiful, yes, physically. I think a lot of the reason why people are so “ugly” is because they don’t try to look their best. The only reason why people in Hollywood are instantly perceived as “superior” to us working class folk appearance-wise is because they have personal cooks, trainers, stylists, and sometimes plastic surgeons at their disposal. But I don’t even think most people need plastic surgery.

    I see a lot of people and think of them as a blank canvass.

  46. SFRowGuy says:

    ? … ?! … ?!?!? … ! … I’m going to pass on this one. (be nice, be nice, be nice … fhewww!)